2:31 pm July 30, 2009, by David O'Brien
July 31st, 20091:50 am
Since it’s late, and we’re talking unrealistic trades, what of the rumors of Troy Glaus? St. Louis has no room for him, but obviously they would have to kick in on the salary. What would it take to land him? Is it worth doing at a reasonable price?
July 31st, 20091:51 am
I wasnt saying I would do the Shafer/Bell trade just wondering who would since the marlins were asking for Cameron Maybn from the Marlins so Shafer is comparable to him.
is a mush. period.
for anyone that ever played baseball. he is the the coach’s son.
coach’s son always played 2nd. or right field.
Shafer straight up for Bell!
Don’t make me come over there, Bill!
July 31st, 20091:52 am
…besides, I have no idea who this “Shafer” character is.
July 31st, 20091:53 am
Where would Glaus fit here? Hes not going to replace Chipper or Kotchman and hes way too pricey for the bench.
July 31st, 20091:55 am
I think he was referring to Paul Shaffer and just left out an “f”.
July 31st, 20091:56 am
RG read the whole post I was saying no way! Shafer is part of the future I say they shouldnt trade foranybody period.
Just throwing it out there birddawg. Like I said, just throwing out unrealistic scenarios.
My only rationale (and I in no way think it happens) is Glaus could be valuable off the bench. But again, St. Louis would have to handle the bulk of the salary.
Chalk this idea up to boredom.
That explains it.
July 31st, 20091:57 am
Sorry Roman Gal SCHAFER!!!!!!!!!!
July 31st, 20091:59 am
You want me to read? I…don’t understand. People don’t do that here. It’s…just.not.right!
July 31st, 20092:00 am
Fluffy Nutts, suck mine!
July 31st, 20092:02 am
macc imight not be a four hole hitter, but he has sand.
the dude is a keeper. he will never be a cleanup hitter, but he has heart.
July 31st, 20092:11 am
Hey RG, your reports have slowed on Rainy Spunjer-Furneyburg. Lost his luster?
July 31st, 20092:13 am
What RP will the Braves get today?
July 31st, 20092:22 am
Gotta go guys and gals. Good night and GOD bless
July 31st, 20092:38 am
I did a study of teams during 1999 and noticed the hr leaders from each team.This was the year Big Mac and Sosa hit all those hrs.A lot of guys had tears that was and has not been duplicated.One guy that was not among the leaders was Bonds.He joined the fray the next year.Iwas really surprised at the players that had career hr numbers that year.Some of you would be surprised also.Andruw was not among them.Others were.Big money was paid out after that year and some guys have not come close to hitting that many hrs again.Just saying….
July 31st, 20092:48 am
just looking over the blog after watching tonight’s game (had to tape it and watch it later.) glad you people freaked out over KJ’s 9th inning error as much as i did. if we end up keeping KJ next season, it better be as an outfielder, because i can not stand watching that guy at 2b. he’s miserable. cox had no option tonight, but i’d dfa norton and get conrad up here for tomorrow night’s game.
also, what the bejeezuss got into N8 tonight? did he take a stupid pill or something? his tantrum over vazquez made for some strange reading. JV gave up 3 in 7 and a third, has a 3.0 era for the season, and N8’s foaming at the mouth over his performance? get a grip, dude. you’re smarter than that.
Look, we don’t need to get rid of KJ…we just need to get rid of KJ the second baseman. I’m sorry but the kid (actually guy, since he’s had more than enough time to improve there and hasn’t – in other words, he ain’t no kid no more) simply doesn’t have the instincts for the position. Somebody’ll have to go when Infante returns and it seems to me the kid at SS is the likely candidate. Meanwhile, bring back Conrad, let Mr. Norton go (he may be a great guy but he ain’t contributing a thing to this team) and move KJ to the outfield – either in a platoon or part-time role – and use him to pinch-hit. He can hit lefties as good as right-handers and certainly should do a better job than Norton has been doing this year.
July 31st, 20092:57 am
Opps, meant to ask. Did anybody ever figure out what that guy, Hohn, was doing whipping out his lineup card when he swaggered over to the Braves dugout – in effect forcing Bobby to come out to meet him (I mean how would it look to his players if he just sat there and took the abuse, as Hohn had told him to do earlier in that inning – sit down and shut up is what I believe he told him). Anyway, he kept referring to something on the lineup – what could it be unless he twerp uses it to make notes on players that say something that he takes offense to – like everything, apparently. Sorta like a soccer ref with his cards he hands out and notes that he keeps.
Wonder if he’ll throw out the first guy that calls him ‘Snidely’..as in, ‘Hey Snidely, tied any damsels to the tracks lately?’
July 31st, 20093:10 am
ddawg–looks like we were thinking the same thing at the same time. one thing KJ can never do (besides field an easy ball in a clutch situation) is complain that the braves and braves fans havent given him enough chances. it amazes me that he’s in atlanta and not gwinnett, but it amazes me even more that he still has vehement defenders here on the blog. there’s a sociological study in there somewhere.
July 31st, 20093:12 am
ddawg–the ump pulled out the lineup card and said he was going to throw somebody out of the game for the braves, so who would bobby like it to be? what a douchebag.
July 31st, 20093:43 am
Does anyone else get the feeling that something is going to happen for the Braves before the deadline?
With Huddy and Infante still weeks from being back, and now with Yunel, Martin, and Ryan all hurt and possibly not being available the rest of the weekend, it seems to me it would be the proper time to trade for Norton’s and possibly Diory’s replacements…maybe even a reliever for the 8th since Gonzo isn’t getting the job done?
I would also have to imagine that Kelly isn’t goin anywhere now that Martin is injured, but thats just my speculation…
I myself am hoping for not a huge trade, but a minor one to add another piece to the puzzle…just to show the boys we really wanna make a run at this thing and the front office is behind them…nothing is better than a trade at the deadline for a momentum booster.
July 31st, 20094:04 am
Jed, I wasn’t foaming at the mouth over Vazquez’s performance. I was foaming at the mouth at the fact that he had been given 3 runs of support (a lot for him), and somebody said that the Braves screwed him again (or something along those lines). Add to that that the Braves official site had a headline reading “Braves turn to stopper to salvage series” (or something like that).
I simply started stating that for his career (and this year) he has not been a stopper. Then got into a pizzing contest over the blog feeling sorry for him.
His performance tonight was fine. But for once the loss wasn’t on the offense. They gave him some support against a team that we’re chasing in the wildcard hunt, and he couldn’t close the deal.
Which is exactly why he isn’t a “stopper”.
Don’t read too much into the rest of the crap, like brewdawg and I going back and forth. I was getting pissy over some comments, and let it get the best of me.
But if it makes you feel any better, I’ve been proven wrong (so far) by Vazquez who is having a fine season. He’s just not a stopper. Never has been, and probably never will be. Ask Guillen.
July 31st, 20094:33 am
Hey, Mr. N8, Vasquez pitched a hell of a game tonight. An effort like his should have a W in his stats 90% of the time.
July 31st, 20096:04 am
I still say get max value out of Javy by trading him now! TB would be the perfect trade partner! Maybe we can get Kazmir and Jennings for Vazquez, Anderson and Gonzalez
July 31st, 20096:17 am
I wonder how Torre would’ve done if the Braves hadn’t swapped out Butler/Jacoby for Len Barker?
We’ll never know. Doesn’t matter. But, losing Butler did help the Braves fall from the top of the West after ‘82, IMO.
IDK, maybe the Braves could’ve traded Nixon & Blauser for Wilson Alvarez after the ‘91 season. Would that have helped?
July 31st, 20097:00 am
All the ballparks need questrac or whatever it’s called to track ump performance. These umps are not above the game, and people don’t pay good money to see them. Bud needs to grow a pair and do something
Bumping fists, as everyone knows, is the same as shaking hands in today’s world of sports. By doing this, umpire Bill Hohn was essentially congratulating the Marlins after their win. It is unprofessional and Hohn should be banned from baseball for the act.
It is 100% inappropriate and I should know, I have umpired for more than 30 years and wouldn’t dream of fraternizing with any player or coach.
Hohn must have attended the Eric (I Can’t See the Plate for my Stomach) Gregg school of umpiring. Remember when Gregg cost the Braves a probable championship?
This Sorry Government NOT working for Americans
July 31st, 20097:21 am
500 club. Nothing better then that. The lineup stinks more then it hits. KK and Lowe are not performing. Vazquez, Jurrjens and Hanson have gottent he job done and got shafted by this lineup. Our outfield needs replaced, thats for sure.
Hopefully with the callups, Heyward and a couple others will give the team the power they need. IMO it was a big mistake to resign Chipper to another 3 year deal. Hes not that good anymore. Gos hitless just like the rest of the lineup. The braves arent drawing people because they have no true stars in the lineup.
July 31st, 20097:22 am
i still think it’s too bad that the braves can’t/aren’t making a move. i understand not being able to add a bat…cost would be prohibitive…but this bullpen certainly needs another quality arm…
July 31st, 20097:23 am
Great win by our wonderful stopper, Javier Vazquez!
July 31st, 20097:31 am
THWG: Maggie May would be a nice name for your first daughter. I like Katie Belle, the name Townes Van Zandt gave his.
July 31st, 20097:39 am
Deadline day is upon us, and I still get the feeling the Braves aren’t going to do anything major, if anything at all. Got about 8 hours to go….
Got an 8:50 a.m. back to Atlanta. Wish I’d been on earlier one, because I was through security by 7:30. I always forget how fast it is from hotel to rental car return to security to gate (or, in this case, Crown Room) at Fort Lauderdale.
Back in the day, long before 9/11 and before this airport doubled in size, I literally could leave my apartment near downtown Ft. Lauderdale 45-50 minutes before my flight and still make it. Oh, those were the days….
i like the one i gave mine…Rhiannon Rae
but, of course, i may be a little biased….8)
July 31st, 20097:40 am
that was supposed to be a smiley…where’s McFann when you need her…8)
July 31st, 20097:41 am
ok, must need more coffee…one more try…isn’t this supposed to create a smiley?
July 31st, 20097:47 am
Gos hitless just like the rest of the lineup. The braves arent drawing people because they have no true stars in the lineup… — This Sorry Government
What an odd time to make the “hitless” comment. Braves have 60 hits and 11 homers in their past six games, and lead the National League in average (.291), OBP (.367) and slugging (.479) for the month of July.
Comment would have been applicable … a couple months ago.
And while they don’t have an Albert Pujols or Prince Fielder (not many teams do), the Braves do have a catcher who’s a four-time All-Star in his first four full seasons, and a future Hall of Famer at third base. So I wouldn’t exactly lump them in with, say, Pittsburgh and Arizona when it comes to lacking big-time star power.
July 31st, 20097:50 am
I just noticed that Moylan has pitched in 16 of the Braves’ 26 games this month. Wow.
The Aussie leads the majors with 57 appearances and is on pace for a franchise-record 90. He’s 14 months removed from Tommy John surgery….
July 31st, 20097:51 am
Incomplete list of Braves who have a higher batting average than Greg Norton: Javier Vazquez, Jair Jurrjens, Derek Lowe, Clint Sammons, Barbaro Canizares, Gregor Blanco, Diory Hernandez.
July 31st, 20097:53 am
Moylan has appeared in an ungodly number of games, but Bobby does do a good job of keeping his pitch count down. Like, he’s got 16 appearances and has thrown only 245 pitches this month (average 15.3). Not too bad.
July 31st, 20097:56 am
exactly DOB…which is why FW needs to add a bullpen arm! i am sure he is trying, but it should would be nice…
July 31st, 20097:57 am
JasonInFl – I admire your tenacity in making that smiley face work – well done.
DOB – I take it you are doing the CA swing next week?
July 31st, 20097:58 am
Braves catchers lead the NL in average (.296), homers (18), RBI (64), and slugging (.519), and the second-best marks in those categories are .289 (Reds), 15 (D’backs), 57 (Pirates) and .437 (D’backs).
That’s an 82-point lead over the next-highest slugging percentage among catchers.
July 31st, 20097:59 am
Moylan could have had two wins in the series had MFIKY held on Tuesday night.
July 31st, 20098:00 am
Then again, Braves right fielders rank 13th in the league in average (.245), dead last in homers (5) and tied for 13th in RBI (43), and 15th in OBP (.291) and slugging (.338).
July 31st, 20098:03 am
Vinings Jim: Oh, yes.
July 31st, 20098:05 am
The statistics giveth, and the statistics taketh away.
July 31st, 20098:07 am
PWHjort, I still wonder how much it takes out of a pitcher over time when he throws all of his warm up pitches, though. Plus the fact that they have to get up and down throught the innings. Moylan was damn impressive last night. He saved that game for us.
DOB – you had better be careful – cabravesfan will be at Dodger Stadium Saturday and Sunday.
Dave- Have you heard anything on Esco and Prado? Do you think they may bring up Brooks Conrad? Sorry if you have answered this already, I just got up.
July 31st, 20098:09 am
That’s it!!!!! I was wondering what Chipie was going to do about how the Braves once again are losers……Chipper is going to blame the umps for Atlanta not winning the NL East.
July 31st, 20098:12 am
Can hear old Chipper now……….we were close, until that game the ump bumped fist with the oposing teams catcher- that turned things around for us. The Umps were out to get us. If you look back at our loses, you can see it was the umps calls that caused us to lose late in the game. We would have won the NL East if not for that
July 31st, 20098:13 am
I just went to Greg Norton’s player profile on Yahoo Sports. The very first link under his name directs to the AJC Vent
I’m so disappointed in Bruce Froemming, Steve Palermo and the other “umpire evaluators” who apparently support and enable idiots like Billy Hohn, Jeff Kellogg and Angel Hernandez, who routinely bait managers and players, and consider themselves the star attraction at MLB games.
On the positive side, while McCann’s homer was certainly THE highlight, bailing out yet another bad bullpen performance, my personal fave was McCann stretching an obvious single into a hustle double. Baseball at its best.
I doubt McCann is any faster than Kotchman, but you will never see the Kotch-Rocket do that. He somehow managed to remain at second on his double last night despite the fact it took the outfielders forever to get to it, and then threw to a cut-off man, home plate, and perhaps elsewhere. Kotch felt lucky, I guess to have made it to second.
Finally, why can’t Norton do the honorable thing? The man should go to Bobby’s office ASAP, thank the HOF manager for the opportunity, say, “it’s obvious I can’t play at this level any more, you should bring Brooks Conrad back,” and walk away with some dignity.
July 31st, 20098:14 am
Vinings Jim: Good to hear.
July 31st, 20098:16 am
I see Josh Anderson was traded to the Royals yesterday. According to some on here that should make them immediate contenders.
The Love Child of Dale Murphy and Johnny Cash
July 31st, 20098:18 am
Here’s my question fellow Braves fans:
If you were the GM and could trade Freeman, Schafer, Medlin, Kotchman and a lower level arm to the Padres for Adrian Gonzalez, would you do it? Just for the record, I would.
July 31st, 20098:24 am
Love Child- I would make the trade 100% but why would they want two first basmeman.
July 31st, 20098:25 am
Mccann shoulda given Bill Hohn a nice fist-bump after crossing the plate last night
Because one’s not nearly ready?
In my little fantasy scenario, Kotchman would fill 1B for the Pads until Freeman was ready.
July 31st, 20098:26 am
18 Wheels of Love
July 31st, 20098:29 am
ernesto, the answer is quite funny.
ernesto – that is the nickname RHR bestowed upon Soriano a few weeks back
July 31st, 20098:33 am
With that nickname I would think Tarantino would want him in his next flick.
John D. Rockerfeller
July 31st, 20098:37 am
Fire the whole AJC except Mark Bradley and Jeff Schultz!
July 31st, 20098:40 am
Went to see “The Hurt Locker” last night. A great film that had me on the edge of my seat for most of the film. Loved its grit and the way it was split into segments along the way, as well as the smaller parts for big guys like Guy Pearce and Ralph Fiennes.
July 31st, 20098:57 am
Who are the Braves top prospects now other than Freeman and Heyward?
Methinks Kotch should fill 1B for the Braves until Freeman’s ready
July 31st, 20098:58 am
DOB, good stats on Braves catchers. How nice is it to have a back up like Ross? Of course, it’s even better to have a 25 year old catcher as good as McCann.
Not sure if this was posted last night(I have a feeling it was), but Julio Teheran struck out 11 and allowed 2 hits in a start against Burlington. Rookie league pitchers have a lot of question marks, obviously, but it’s still nice to see the kid have a good season so far.
July 31st, 20098:59 am
Would that be moflicky?
July 31st, 20099:00 am
dap01, lots of pitchers. Teheran, Hoover, Rohrbough, Spruill, DeVall, Delgado, Delgado, Kimbrel, Minor(when he signs). But they are all a ways off.
Yessssssssss, give me Bell for Schafer now!
I think a lot. I wasn’t trying to defend Bobby’s overuse, just looking for a silver lining.
July 31st, 20099:02 am
I never understand this…. We are in America, technology is there, instant replays are far more better then ever but still we feel shame watching games being called wrongly. Specially in baseball umpire always blow calls here and there that cost a game to teams. Why don’t the umpire wear a micro phone and game official brief umpires how they are calling a game between innings. Everyone have a bad day but if there is an official giving him game assessment for first few inning, I think game will just get better and better. C’mon MLB bring some change, improvement and excitement to the game.
July 31st, 20099:11 am
Would love for the ajc to show us the photo of the fist-bump. Chipper will likely be suspended for his comments – the least ATL fans deserve is a photo we can blow up for posters next time the Marlins ump is in town.
July 31st, 20099:16 am
Terrible incident last night. They ran out of hot dogs and upset a fan at Land Shark stadium…. says he’s never coming back…. they lost HALF of thier season ticket holders….
July 31st, 20099:17 am
We need Chipper to play like a 15million dollar man for us to advance to the post season.Some players earn their money like Albert,Chase,and that catcher in Minn.Chip,put this team on your back like 1999.The Braves need your bat more than your anger.
Rock On....the denizen formerly known as Dadgum
Whoever said that KJ does not have the skill set to play 2nd base is right on the money. Forget last night’s error(and 0-4), I have been saying this for about 9 months and yes the Braves should trade him or also as mentioned convert him back to the outfield. We have just too many good options at 2nd base so KJ is not needed there. Prado should be back at 2nd today apparently.
As for Vazquez the Braves are definitely not trading him. He is one helluva pitcher and you don’t trade pitchers of his ilk when the game always starts with pitching. In fact I think Wren is going to look at keeping both Vazquez, Lowe, and Hudson by reworking the contracts of Hudson and Vazquez to fit in the budget for 2010. That is assuming Hudson is dominant or encouraging upon his return. Obviously that would mean KK has to be traded and with a solid 2nd half here he may well find a team willing to take on his 8 mil contract. Probably a left coast team. A rotation of Lowe, Jurrjens, Vazquez, Hanson, and Hudson is probably 1-5 the very best the NL has seen in, well, since the Smoltz, Maddux, Glavine, Millwood days about 10 years ago.
July 31st, 20099:20 am
If DOB is right, and the braves make no “major” move today….and don’t get a bat….that would be a HUGE mistake.
July 31st, 20099:27 am
Safe to bet that Shoeless Joe Jackson did not fist-bump the triumphant Cincinnati Reds before he was banned for life. MLB has an appearances problem, at least, with a patently corrupt umpire.
July 31st, 20099:28 am
I agree with this post…
Hmm…I don’t know. I think it might be time to get a little more Conrad/Burke action and a little less Diory/GNorton action…
July 31st, 20099:29 am
What ever happened to Barbaro Canizares? Why isn’t he permanently on our team as a pinch-hitter? He was awesome.
With Chipper’s most recent comments attributed to the fist bump incident it adds to a long list of in-season blabber and whining from someone suppose to be a team leader. Chipper should have gone off-record with his comment. The man simply is no public relations guy for certain. Just can’t say the right thing to save him.
The right thing to say you ask? Laugh it off, say that kind of stuff happens, move on. To actually go public with the notion that Hohn has it in for the Braves is the diatribe of a loser. Chipper is no loser for sure. He needs a personal PR guy-NOW.
July 31st, 20099:31 am
ghostwriter….with Cox at the helm you actually have to ask that question?
July 31st, 20099:33 am
IF this had happened to the Yankees or Red Sox it would have been splashed all over baseball news and Hohn would have a big problem. Fact is it was just a Braves Marlins games two teams fighting to stay in wild card race so nobody was really looking.
Remember when the Yankees or Red Sox got cheated ( cant remember which ) by a foul \ fair homerun or something like that. There was a national outrage. I told somebody if it had been Mariners Royals nobody would have cared. But because it was a big boy team we practically had replay the next day.
July 31st, 20099:34 am
personally I think chipper was the leader by someone speaking out against an obviously biased umpire. Something needs to be done about an umpire who does a fist pump with a player during a game. That is totally unacceptable. The umpire needs to be fined and or suspended for such action.
July 31st, 20099:36 am
Oh hey it’s pouring down rain on moving day…gonna be a helluva day…the least the braves could do for me is beat the dodgers tonight, preferably in embarrassing fashion because i have several dodger fan friends…but i’ll take just a 1 point win any day. .
If the league allows an Ump to behave like he did with Cox & Mac, and then fist bump with the Marlins’ catcher after a called 3rd strike and nothing happens to him, then Chipper should receive the same results.
July 31st, 20099:37 am
And it looks like KJ is a fine pinch hitter, eh? Hope my guy Marteeeeen is able to play tonight. Sucks not to have Yunel for this series.
Rock on is the early leader for dumbest post of the day. Chipper shouldnt have only said something but should have had an 8 x 10 of the fist bump in his hand while he said it.
You have to shake the trees once in awhile and this ump is clearly a joke. If he umps another Braves game they should at a minimum play the game under protest and I wouldnt even have my team take the field.
July 31st, 20099:38 am
Can that conrad dude you all love play SS? If so, get his ass on the phone now!
July 31st, 20099:39 am
Rock On….the denizen formerly known as Dadgum…
Nice analysis. If Wren can rework Vazquez’ and Hudson’s contracts to bring them in line with budget limits, that would certainly be ideal.
If Wren could move Kawakami that would be wise, but I’m wondering if the Braves can off-load his contract or have to eat a portion of it? Kawakami is a decent 5th starter, but at his price tag?
July 31st, 20099:40 am
Anyone bored today? Come on down to auburn with your trucks and muscles. If every person on here showed up in the next half hour we could get this chit over with in a hurry!
Ryan H….what are they going to give up to get a huge bat? Ain’t going to be any starting pitching unless it is KK and a prospect/KJ. What bat could they possibly get for a two month rental when all indications are that Heyward and/or Shaefer will be here in a month. Outside Norton getting released I don’t see anything happening at all. What they need is some relief help so if anything that is probably the route they will go but again either Hudson or KK will be in the pen in that role anyway.
July 31st, 20099:41 am
one word to describe that a$$hole ump: C*CKSCKER!!!
July 31st, 20099:44 am
Ghostwriter, Rock On, this is for you:
Barbaro AAA stats in July
Avg:.247 OBP: .297 SLG: .387 OPS: .684
Dude has fallen a bit lately.
July 31st, 20099:45 am
I agree we need to get a BAT today and a RELIEVER
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