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Eric from MO
July 30th, 2009
11:55 pm
Paul if we had won the first two games then I would agree with leaving Vazquez, and I dont even blame Bobby I understand the decision, but to me this was a game we had to win and we had a two run lead, I just would of went to Gonzo and Soriano. Also I dont quite understand after Gonzo had walked Hannly why not bring in Soriano to face the righty? I realize he was warming up yet, but he should of been. However, I dont blame Cox like others, I realize Gonzo is a good reliever.
Paul Lentz
July 30th, 2009
11:55 pm
Eric from MO……..Kelly Johnson is making $2.825 mil this season. I’ve been following the arbitration process FOR YEARS. It is not unreasonable to think that Kelly Johnson will be in line for a raise to at least $4 mil next year, should the Braves be dumb enough to offer him salary arbitration.
Also, as far as trading him to other teams…………do you really think that other teams would be willing to risk having to pay him $4 mil next year?
That is why I’m actually happy that Jeff Francoeur is having success with the Mets this year. On an offensively challenged Mets team………Franceour will get plenty of chances to knock in runs. However, he will end up batting .250 with close to 90 RBIs in about 600 at-bats. The Mets will end up offering him arbitration in the off season and Francoeur will get awarded between $6-7 mil next year. You can BANK ON IT. Then the Mets will see Francoeur fall back “down to earth”.
Steve from OH
July 30th, 2009
11:56 pm
Yeah, Norton sucks. Not much to debate there. Yeah, he should probably be sent down at this point. He’s also the 25th man on the roster. Hardly a major issue. Apart from him, we don’t really have any major holes or weaknesses and that’s a good thing, Braves fans.
John
July 30th, 2009
11:58 pm
Paul
You said…”When it comes to their demeanor off the field, I dont care if they are a BUM or a nice guy. That matters ZERO to me…”
Believe it or not…MANY people don’t feel that way…if somebody is a BUM off the field….I just don’t want to be “pullin’ for them…guess we’re just different….(assuming you’re being serious when you say you it matters ZERO to you)…I could name several BUMS “off the field” that I hope NEVER play with the Braves for this very reason.
SCJames
July 30th, 2009
11:58 pm
DOB,
Love the Song Choice. GO Braves!!!
Paul Lentz
July 30th, 2009
11:58 pm
monty………….”wayne in utah” has the nerve to get on me for calling Greg Norton a BUM…….yet he is quick to call me names. Am I not a “human being”? I guess not, according to wayne, lol. Hypocrite.
monty
July 30th, 2009
11:59 pm
the real Andy
RIght on about Gonzo! He really seems to be a pitcher who needs rest in between outings. Work once get 2 days rest. If he pitches back to back then he gets 3-4 days. Remember how sharp all the relievers looked after the Allstar break in their 1st appearance? Very noticable.
Mitchell
July 30th, 2009
11:59 pm
Wayne, I think somehow you and I are operating on a whole nother level at this point.
We’re playing too well for people to just jump ship after losing two games in a row. That was a great win tonight, people need to give the Braves credit.
If Gonzo hadn’t gotten the job done, it would have been game over. He got through it. Moylan got through Kelly making five errors and McCann got the big homerun but only because Nate got on and Kelly finally delivered a quality bunt.
Too much bitching lately from Braves bloggers. All these damn nicknames, “Loaf” for example, are pissing me off.
I’m ridin’ my high horse all night baby. Who knows what’s going to happen but let’s appreciate the fact that we’re playing meaningful games going into August.
And, uh, Jason Schmidt versus Tommy Hanson? You’ve got to be kidding me. That’s some funny sh*t right there.
Loving the view on my high horse tonight.
Steve from OH
July 31st, 2009
12:00 am
And I’ll second SCJames on DOB’s song choice…lovin’ it. Maybe some “Hot Legs” tomorrow? LOL!
Eric from MO
July 31st, 2009
12:00 am
Ok, Paul I thought it was around 2.3 which is why I didnt think he would get 4. My bad on that one and yes I do think teams would take on Kelly at 4 mil. Mets did with Francouer and gave up a decent in return. We may not get a future all-star, but Kelly has had enough bright spots in his career that a team will take a chance on him.
Steve from OH
July 31st, 2009
12:02 am
I always chuckle when Ozzie Guillen calls something an “embarrassment” to baseball when he’s obviously not lookin in the mirror…
CrimeDog
July 31st, 2009
12:06 am
Steve-
I usually agree with you, but I gotta disagree on Ozzie. That dude is a quote machine and seems to be a decent manager (although I admit I don’t follow the White Sox nearly enough to make that judgement). He’s definitley a guy that livens up the game a little.
Paul Lentz
July 31st, 2009
12:06 am
Steve from OH…………Norton being the 25th man on the roster not a “major issue”? Yet he is used as the #1 pinch hitter by Bobby Cox PRETTY MUCH EVERY NIGHT.
As I said earlier tonight, when the Phillies were in the middle of that 10 game winning streak…….they had a number of CLUTCH PINCH HITS by both Greg Dobbs and Matt Stairs.
Yet many of you were “happy” when the Braves won 6 of the 8 home games against the Mets and Giants after the All-Star Break. We should have won both those games that we lost. Greg Norton WHIFFING through 2 straight fastballs in the 8th inning of that Mets game when the bases were loaded, 2 outs, 3-1 count, score 2-1 Mets. A clutch hit there is the BALLGAME. Instead, Norton strikes out, which ended up being the BALLGAME.
Yet you still think that Greg Norton being the 25th man is no “big deal”? Brooks Conrad delivered a big pinch hit 3 run homer to help us come back and beat the Nationals in his first at-bat as a Brave. Do you really think that Norton could have done that?
Every man counts. The Braves have little margin for error. We need contributions from EVERYONE. If you cant understand that, then I’m sorry.
monty
July 31st, 2009
12:07 am
John
What is your definition of a “bum off the field?” Maybe a guy that cheats on his wife? Stays out late drinking to the wee hours, when there is a day game the next day? Fathers illigitimate kids? You might not be rooting for many a star athlete including Micky Mantle(back in the day) Chipper Jones, or Michael Jordan. Very few pro athletes fit the role model mold!
Paul Lentz
July 31st, 2009
12:10 am
Eric from MO………with Prado at 2nd, the Braves would be FOOLS to risk offering Kelly Johnson salary arbitration. If Frank Wren could have traded Kelly, he would have by now. No team is willing to give Frank Wren “any value” for Kelly Johnson.
Then again, I could be wrong. Wren SHOCKED me when he was able to trade Francoeur to the Mets. I still like the Church/Diaz platoon in right.
monty
July 31st, 2009
12:10 am
KJ should move to the AL where he can just hit and not have to play the field. He’ an error waiting to happem!
Freddy G
July 31st, 2009
12:11 am
On Kelly J:
I see a lot of folks bashing Kelly, and suggesting that we get rid of him, however I believe he will be a key part of the Braves future success and I wish him well. He is not a very reliable defensive 2nd Baseman, neither was he reliable in Leftfield, but he can hit whenever he is on. I always believe he would be a good line drive hitter who could hit 15 to 20 Homeruns, but he seems to make too much effort to hit Homeruns, and developed this upper cut every at bat, which seems he is always trying to yank it out. The outs to left field are examples of what I am talking about. He has not developed the ability of Chipper and to a lesser extent Brian both of who have power to left and left center. Therefore instead of the lazy fly ball outs to left he should look at hitting it over third or try and find the hole between third and short, depending on how they are playing him. Let us hope he will get hot.
Steve from OH
July 31st, 2009
12:12 am
Greg Norton has cost us 5 runs with the bat this year. Empirically, that’s 1/2 of a win. An issue? Certainly. Worthy of 7 treatises per day, Paul? Not really. In any case, you are overstating his lack of value to the team. Like I said, he sucks, should be gone, but not worth pulling hair and wasting keystrokes. Got any other relevant points or are you gonna beat the Norton horse into glue? Because frankly, it’s not worth it and it’s getting old and repetitive, mmmk?
CrimeDog
July 31st, 2009
12:12 am
Paul Lentz-
I’ll randomly capitalize words so you understand…
I APPRECIATE that you like Matt STAIRS and Greg Dobbs. If you’ll peruse your handy Braves roster, you WON’T notice there names on IT. You see something called a DIORY Hernandez, a backup CATCHER, and Kelly JOHNSON. I know you love BROOKS Conrad. We all know. But if you think replacing the BRAVES’ current non-hitting PINCH hitter, with a CAREER .260 minor league hitter, THEN I don’t know WHAT to tell YOU.
THWG
July 31st, 2009
12:12 am
Excellent song choice, DOB. I’m naming my first daughter Maggie May.
RHR
July 31st, 2009
12:15 am
Good job on getting the ump story from Chipper, DOB. I couldn’t think of any reason why dude would have the lineup card out….wow what an ass. And the league reviewed it huh?
Great win tonight! So proud for Heap. What a way to break the 0 fer 16 eh? And good egg that he is, Jim Powell jinxed it right up for him by mentioning that 0-16 seconds before…..mama there goes that mann!
The A Bomb
July 31st, 2009
12:18 am
Congratulations to Chipper and Bobby for not being ejected tonight. . . I was wrong. . .
We should have retaliated for the Yunel plunking because of the way Paulino set up. . . The Marlins get away with way too much of that crap. . .
Bobby. . . you have the bases loaded in the 9th with a chance for more than 3 runs. . . can’t find a better hitting pitcher than Mr. Bloomin’ Onion?. . .
Someone tell me. . . when did Gonzalez add the hanging curve to his repetoir?. . .
If we need a 25th man, I’m sure Franco at age 50-something could be better than the guy we have now. . .
Next time Hohn umps at the Ted the crowd should be given fake ’staches to mock that weasel. . .
John
July 31st, 2009
12:19 am
monty
Rest assured…I agree that what I consider a “bum” off the field is a VERY “subjective” choice….and I have no problem with people that can “pull” for ANYBODY… as long as they can help the team. It’s really pretty simple…there are just SOME people (rightly or wrongly) that I just do NOT want to “pull” for…IF there are NO such people according to your opinion…I have NO problem with that…we’re just different….no biggie…
Eric from MO
July 31st, 2009
12:20 am
Paul Kelly trade-value is at an all-time low. That may be why he hasnt traded him yet. If Kelly has a Sep like he did last year he will not only help the Braves this season, but up his trade value. Dont forget he had a good May, then got hurt in June, played through it poorly, then has been decent since coming off the AL. Im sure somebody would give up a reliever for him. Maybe they wont, but I think there will be someone.
Anyway heading to bed. Night All!
Uncle Frank
July 31st, 2009
12:20 am
Gonzalez added the hanging curve once Cox overworked him.
Paul Lentz
July 31st, 2009
12:20 am
monty………totally agree with you. Very few athletes are “nice guys”. You have to have at least a little ego to make it to this level. Most of these guys have been pampered and catered to their whole lives.
I am under no illusion that these guys “care” about the average fan. Nor do I think that they should. It’s a dog eat dog world, every man for himself. Fans will turn on you in a heartbeat. I understand this.
What matters to me is that the Braves put the best guys on the field that can give them a chance to win. Giving WELFARE at-bats to nice guys pisses me off. You might as well give a kid from the “make a wish foundation” some charity at-bats.
Bottom line, are the Braves in business to WIN……..OR……..are they in business to cater to fans who want to see their favorite players play who give the team little chance on winning?
Paul Lentz
July 31st, 2009
12:23 am
Crime Dog……….Right now, I feel that a minor leaguer with a career .260 batting average, will help a lot more than a hitter batting 6 for 51 for the season.
Conrad was a hot hitter during his time with Atlanta. Why send a hot hitter down? Why not ride that horse until he slowed down?
CrimeDog
July 31st, 2009
12:26 am
Paul-
I’m not arguing the Norton is awful. I’m arguing that Conrad’s “upgrade” would have been miniscule at best over the long run. If Bobby was trotting Norton out there over a guy like Dobbs or Stairs, he would be stupid. But he currently has no other options. It’s just like when you constantly call for Moylan to not be used in CRUCIAL situations, you fail to come up with a solution that would be any better. I would love Ichiro off the bench to pinch hit and Mo Rivera pitching the 7th instead of Moylan, but this isn’t Fantasy Land.
Chop Chop
July 31st, 2009
12:27 am
Paul,
Someone must have shut off your pipeline to Wren. What’s going on, man? You had us winning again. There’s some kind of conspiracy going on. That’s what it is. Makes me sick, dude. Keep fighting the good fight.
Wayne in Utah
July 31st, 2009
12:27 am
Paul
I am so sorry if I called you names and hurt your feelings. I did allude to the fact that you might not be too smart, and I also said I thought you were a fantasy baseball person (that might be considered a bad name), and yes, I did say that you didn’t know much about baseball.
At least I didn’t say you throw like a girl!
Poor baby!
Wayne in Utah
July 31st, 2009
12:30 am
Crime Dog
I think I have it figured out. A lot of these guys who rant and rave about our guys, they are driven by their fantasy teams. They want to swap a guy out because he is in a slump. No need in worrying about team chemistry or team makeup.
Just get me my points, or your a bum.
Freddy G
July 31st, 2009
12:32 am
Wouldn’t it be nice to see Chipper play with the same passion like BMac.
So many of the younger players look up to Chipper that it would be unreal if he was to show some enthusiasm, like Bmac and Escobar and even Prado do. It would be like 1991 to 1996 when it was great to go to the Ballpark and see the enthusiasm of Gant,Justice,Deon, Otis,Lemke,Klesko, Chipper and Smoltz. I suppose been the older statesman of the team he does not think it cool to show it. I am not talking about showing up a pitcher if you hit a Homerun and there is a very fine line, but enthusiasm breeds confidence which brings success.
Good going Bmac, and get well Esco and Prado.
Paul Lentz
July 31st, 2009
12:32 am
Wayne in Utah………..Dude, you must have Alzheimer’s. On a number of occasions you called me Dentz. While I have disagreed with you, I always addressed you by your name.
While I’m not hurt, I still will point out your hypocrisy.
Mitchell
July 31st, 2009
12:32 am
As I said earlier tonight, when the Phillies were in the middle of that 10 game winning streak…….they had a number of CLUTCH PINCH HITS by both Greg Dobbs and Matt Stairs.
Yet many of you were “happy” when the Braves won 6 of the 8 home games against the Mets and Giants after the All-Star Break. We should have won both those games that we lost.
Agreed Paul Lentz.
If we really want to get something going we can’t lose those types of games. We still need to put together an extended winning streak. I feel like the next six in a row are very winable with our pitching in the upcoming series against the Dodgers and then heading out to San Diego.
Obviously Kawakami is a huge question mark. He doesn’t give you a whole lot of confidence. Those are going to need to be team wins but I also don’t like the mentality we have and the things you hear from the announcers whenever we go up against a team’s ace, as if we should consider ourselves lucky just to get a run off the guy.
I think this was a huge win. It says a lot about the team. We need to get a lot of guys healthy. We just have to win. It’s as simple as that.
Oh and uh, Fu*k the Marlins.
The A Bomb
July 31st, 2009
12:33 am
I mean Gonzalez’s breaking ball lately is way off. . . I slow it down on TiVo and you just see batters’ eyes BULGING in that batter’s box….
Wayne in Utah
July 31st, 2009
12:34 am
Paul,
I would rather that you just kiss my ass, and we can call it a date!
OK!
Paul Lentz
July 31st, 2009
12:34 am
Wayne in Utah……..I play in a fantasy league where I can pick my line-up on a daily basis.
John
July 31st, 2009
12:34 am
Paul
There are MANY players that would make the Braves better…some of them…I’d prefer NOT to pickup…even tho they would make us better on the field. I assume you have NO such reservations for any current player (OR recently “retired” player…for that matter)
BTW..Norton and/or KJ could be traded or sent down tonight…and I wouldn’t have a problem with it…I’m NOT big on keeping players because they’re “nice”…but…I’m also not in favor of picking up certain players that I consider to be too… uhh… “unnice”…
CrimeDog
July 31st, 2009
12:34 am
Wayne-
Maybe. I have a fantasy team, albeit Prado and Gonzo are my only Braves. I just think some people have no grasp of reality. People on this blog routinely:
-Blame managers when a player commits a fundamental error
-Propose trades that the computer on my playstaion games wouldn’t even accept (KJ, Kotchman, and Medlen for Victor Martinez! Yeah!)
-Grossly undervalue players (Kotchman, GA)
-Assume to know the innerworkins of the Braves clubhouse and how things work behind the scenese, when they have never so much as spoken to a big league player at an autograph signing.
With that said, there are also a lot of intelligent bloggers on here too.
Troll
July 31st, 2009
12:36 am
Braves should trade Ryan Church and Kawakami to Tampa for Carl Crawford.
Mitchell
July 31st, 2009
12:37 am
“Dentz.”
I like that. Clever.
Man, I would have taken that flat billed hat wearing George Sherill. That would have been nice.
Can’t believe all the low rent bottom dwelling teams losing their best players. Doesn’t seem right. That being said, whoever is running Pittsburg (into the ground) is an idiot.
Thanks for McLouth. I’ll take it.
monty
July 31st, 2009
12:37 am
John
“If there are NO SUCH PEOPLE to pull for”
Not what I said John. What I said was “very few pro athletes fit the role model mold.” I used to get very dissapointed at some guys who are great in sports and lousy as human beings, but the bottom line is everyone is flawed and makes mistakes, and if I put an athlete on a pedastal and they fall off that’s my problem. I pull for Chipper. Would I want ny son to be the man he is off the field? NO!! I happen to pull for John Daily who is a walking train wreck in his personal life, someone I would never want a son to imitate. I hope he overcomes his problems. Thats just me.
scottbravesfan
July 31st, 2009
12:37 am
Hahn should be fired
The A Bomb
July 31st, 2009
12:39 am
Not to overdo the Norton thing, but losing the guys tonight really exposed how he cannot be kept any longer. . . Neither can Hernandez when Infante returns. . .
Wren, there’s a bat out there somewhere — go get it — even a .225 hitter would be an improvement. Better yet, just recall Conrad and you don’t have to address payroll.
scottbravesfan
July 31st, 2009
12:39 am
Freddie G,
“Passion” and “fire” have never won a professional baseball game in the history of the sport so who cares if Chipper shows “passion”. I just hope he continues to get on base at a plus .400 clip.
Freddy G
July 31st, 2009
12:40 am
On Bobby:
If he is so crucial to the success of the team, should he not try to avoid been tossed in so many games, or is he trying to establish an infamous record that will never be broken. You may say that he goes around the corner and manage, but would it not be better if he was watching the game.
DiamondbackMac
July 31st, 2009
12:40 am
D Lowe – .206BA
J.J – .159BA
Vasquez – .122BA
Norton – .118BA
That’s with Norton having more at bats. It appears we would be better off dumping Norton and using those three starters as pinch hitters.
Paul Lentz
July 31st, 2009
12:41 am
John……….if the Braves could have afforded it, I would have loved to have seen Manny Ramirez in this line-up playing left field. I could care less whether he used steroids or how aloof he is at time. Dude can FLAT OUT HIT. Imagine him batting 4th, in between Chipper and McCann.
The Giants made an effort to try and fit Manny into their payroll. However paying Barry Zito $18 mil for 4 more years after this crippled their chances to sign him.
As difficult as Barry Bonds could be, I’d love to have seen him playing for the Braves in the 90’s. We’d probably have won more than the 1 championship.
Fred "The Dorf" Dorfman
July 31st, 2009
12:41 am
The Braves are reportedly talking about a trade that would send Kenshin Kawakami, Casey Kotchman, Kelly Johnson and Brandon Jones to the Padres for Adrian Gonzalez. Just saw it on a website.
The A Bomb
July 31st, 2009
12:42 am
Lentz — in the ’90s it was either Bonds or Maddux for us. We chose Maddux. Good call.
CrimeDog
July 31st, 2009
12:43 am
Fred-
TMZ.com? Perez Hilton?
The A Bomb
July 31st, 2009
12:43 am
Ok Fred. . .
John
July 31st, 2009
12:44 am
monty
ok..let’s try it this way…Is there ANYBODY you wouldn’t want on the Braves team because they are too “Bummy’ off the field ??….If NOT…we’re just different….If so….we agree on the principle…and maybe just disagree on the degree of “Bumminess” of certain players…
Fred "The Dorf" Dorfman
July 31st, 2009
12:45 am
I saw it on that MLB trade rumor site. Sounds pretty legit.
Wayne in Utah
July 31st, 2009
12:47 am
Did Baseball Tonight do a segment on Hahn and his adventures in umpiring?
John
July 31st, 2009
12:47 am
Paul
Couple of good examples…would make Braves much better on the field for sure…I’d “pass” on both of them at the moment… (and I have NO doubt Bonds could STILL help the Braves)…different strokes for different folks…
Freddy G
July 31st, 2009
12:49 am
Scottbravesfan:
I agree that passion does not allow you to win and it never has, however it can motivate some younger players to try harder, just like when those no name Braves did it back in the early 90’s and shocked the world. Look at the passion the Yankees, Phillies and Red Sox play with, that’s all i am saying.
Fred "The Dorf" Dorfman
July 31st, 2009
12:49 am
Another report said that the Padres are insisting on Greg Norton in the trade. I’d probably go ahead and include him if I was Wren.
Mitchell
July 31st, 2009
12:50 am
The Braves are reportedly talking about a trade that would send Kenshin Kawakami, Casey Kotchman, Kelly Johnson and Brandon Jones to the Padres for Adrian Gonzalez. Just saw it on a website.
You’ve got to be kidding me. No way they make that trade. We’re not winning the damn World Series this year, don’t go trying to get somebody like Gonzolez who will probably not be with the team for more than a season or two. The guy is peaking as far as I’m concerned. He’s not the next anything.
I probably wouldn’t miss Kelly or Brandon but I for one would like to see Kotchman at first base for the time being.
That’s a desperate move.
Wayne in Utah
July 31st, 2009
12:50 am
Why did we release Jeff Bennett? The man has FIRE. We need some more FIRE on this club. Like Conrad and his FIRE.
Can’t believe we would release a guy who was not afraid to take on a wall!
CrimeDog
July 31st, 2009
12:52 am
If anyone is watching Baseball Tonight, please tell me what Buck Showalter was just babbling about. It made no sense.
Wayne in Utah
July 31st, 2009
12:53 am
Barry Bonds, Manny Ramirez, Milton Bradley…. No thanks.
It was hard enough having Gary “I laid down on the Brewers” Sheffield a few years back!
The A Bomb
July 31st, 2009
12:54 am
I can’t watch Baseball Tonight anymore — I can’t handle Showalter talking about how he walked Barry Bonds with the bases loaded again and again and again. . .
When he leaves I’ll watch again.
Mitchell
July 31st, 2009
12:56 am
Can’t believe I’m still on here. Done.
Dodgers are about to get a beating.
Steve Berthiume just said the Braves and Marlins were trailing the Mets in the East before he corrected himself. Uh huh.
Paging Dr. Freud.
The Real Bobby
July 31st, 2009
12:58 am
“Dude, I have said before …. ” — Paul Dentz
DUDE, everything you say, you’ve said before, and before, and before, and before. Sometimes you start a post off with, “I’ve said this over and over ….”. No kidding, really? You’ve had a handful of points, and used them all up about 2 months ago. Why don’t you stop typing and work on an original thought? Geez, give us mercy.
Mitchell
July 31st, 2009
1:00 am
Jeff Bennett asked to be released after Braves suspended his pay for breaking hand by punching a dugout wall between innings.
Had to comment on this one… Jeff, would you like fries with that?
Hilarious.
The A Bomb
July 31st, 2009
1:00 am
SAN FRANCISCO 7 PHILADELPHIA 2 FINAL
RHR
July 31st, 2009
1:01 am
Hold up jeff bennett gotbreleased? Im so out of the loop tonight
monty
July 31st, 2009
1:04 am
John
MAybe you could make a list of what your “bumminess” is and I could go down and check agree or disagree. Plus I don’t have the ability to know everyone’s personal life and probaby you don’t know either. I don’t really like hearing about someone’s sordid life as it always puts a damper on my feelings about them as a baseball player, Pete Rose was a mess. That dude we had last year in relief that wanted to make porn movies really creeped me out(could have gone a lifetime without hearing that)Tavarez?? Wife abuse,(some have said BC did this) Can you pull for BC as a coach? I could pull for Julian Taverez to strike a guy out but I wouldn’t want him around my teenage daughters. I can pull for BC to manage a good game but I don’t want to imitate him or think he’s an outstanding individual. Like Charles Barkley said, “I ain’t your role model!” We grow up idolizing our favorite sports heroes and then we find out that they are just flawed people like many of us who don’t have it all together, they just happen to throw a baseball or dribble a basketball or run a footnall better than everyone else, thats all.
N8
July 31st, 2009
1:09 am
“Oh, and the Braves started 5-1 this year. So it hasn’t been “nearly a year” since they were four games over .500. And I remember a post you made earlier this year that said something along the lines of “Sorry folks, gotta say it. Donkey in the dugout.” brewdawg
I’m over it (if you care), so don’t sweat it (not that you were). But first of all, your commenting on the 5-1 start tells me that you haven’t been paying attention to my last 4-5 days of posts (where I’ve been mainly positive – no….. really), because for almost a week, I’ve been arguing with blogger about the “magical” 4 games over .500 benchmark. And in the midst of making this argument, I’ve stated about 5-6 times how “other than the 5-1 start to the season…..”
No biggie. I too cannot always be on the blog, and when I’m away I don’t read every body’s posts. Certainly don’t expect anybody to read all (if any) of mine, other than the people I’m posting to.
I’m the first to admit that my sarcasm doesn’t always come across and people have issues with my attitude and what appears to be me attacking others. So perhaps, I should heed my own warning to others. But it appeared as though there was a “tone” with your post. Which surprised me. Usually you and I are always civil (as civil as to anonymous bloggers can be to each other), while often razzing each other.
As for the donkey in the dugout comment? If the shoe fits on occasion. There is occasionally moments where Bobby is the “donkey” in the dugout. Robert’s nickname for him originates from him being stubborn as a mule. Which even the biggest Bobby supporter cannot deny is true. However, Robert often takes it too far with the “chewing his cud”, dangling a carrot, and various other farm animal jokes. Sometimes I’m ammused by them other times I’m not.
But if you have EVER read any of my posts, you’d know that I respect Bobby, yet feel I have the right to complain about him if I so choose. If you would like me to explain in full detail what I like about Bobby and what I don’t. Let me know and I’ll map it out for you. Right now I don’t feel like spewing it out.
MFin04
July 31st, 2009
1:10 am
Couple questions for thought….
1) Should Chipper have let the ball go that he grabbed while falling over? Pretty sure it was going to spin foul…and even if it didn’t the runner wasn’t going to try to score from third with the ball right in front of him.
2) What was the deal with batting Moylan? Did the Braves really not have anymore hitters? At least pinch hit Derek Lowe or Jair? David Ross? I mean, 3-runs isn’t exactly a cake-walk, especially with Soriano giving up 2 just the other night. I’d rather be safe than sorry…
monty
July 31st, 2009
1:11 am
Steve from Ohio\\
“Norton not hitting doesn’t make a difference.”
You are right Steve. Norton doesn’t “make a difference.” I believe that was PAul’s point exactly.
Roman Gal
July 31st, 2009
1:11 am
“It wasn’t me, guys.” -Kelly Johnson
Haha…I was thinking when I heard about it, “Oh, that Kelly Johnson…he’s a sneaky one, he is!”
MFin04
July 31st, 2009
1:12 am
Oh and since I probably owe it to him….great game Casey Kotchman. You made me smile by driving in not only 1 runner from third with less than 2-outs, but also another guy behind him. Nicely done, props to Casey K.
Also there was some stat like he hit 4 homers in his first 122 games with the Braves and now has 4 more homers in his last 20 at bats or 20 games or something like that. That’s crazy.
Roman Gal
July 31st, 2009
1:13 am
Apart from him, we don’t really have any major holes or weaknesses and that’s a good thing, Braves fans.
Hmm…I don’t know. I think it might be time to get a little more Conrad/Burke action and a little less Diory/GNorton action…
Just my opinion.
The A Bomb
July 31st, 2009
1:13 am
I believe Moylan is granted up to 5 at-bats per year because he needs practice for the cricket team he will be on next year.
NO MORE BOBBY
July 31st, 2009
1:14 am
Found an exclusive picture of Bill Hohn …………
http://www.mcphee.com/pixlarge/11681.jpg
John
July 31st, 2009
1:18 am
monty
If possible…I ‘d just as soon not know ANYTHING about their “private’ life…I cut them a lot of slack in that area…but… their behavior related to the game is something I can’t help being exposed to …and I don’t cut em’ much slack in that area.
And…you’re right…Bless his heart…The Mick was a total “prick”…
Fluffy McNutter
July 31st, 2009
1:19 am
Jeff Bennett asked for his release and the Braves granted his wish today.
Fluffy McNutter
July 31st, 2009
1:21 am
On a related note, I asked the Braves to release Greg Norton. We’ll see if that wish is granted.
luvthosedawgs68
July 31st, 2009
1:22 am
heyward, you’re an idiot!! Back off of Kotchman, I think, I THINK, there’s no way we have a winning record without his stellar defense at first base, and, .278, with 8HR’s and 20 doubles is pretty decent. Man, give the guy a break!
Texas Nick
July 31st, 2009
1:24 am
Could it be possible that theBraves released Bennett to open up a 40 man roster spot for Jason Heyward and put Church on the DL.
luvthosedawgs68
July 31st, 2009
1:25 am
I do agree with the Norton comments, though. He’s killing us in pinch-hit situations. Conrad would be a big upgrade….
John
July 31st, 2009
1:25 am
MFin04
1) Should Chipper have let the ball go that he grabbed while falling over? Pretty sure it was going to spin foul…and even if it didn’t the runner wasn’t going to try to score from third with the ball right in front of him.
Once Chipper started fallin’ I was hopin’ he’d hold on to the ball…though it MAY have spun foul…because from what I saw…our SS, for some reason, was just standing at his normal position and never moved (”watchin’ the paint dry” as the Hoosiers guy said)…and if the ball had gotten past Chipper and rolled to the 3B bag (where the SS SHOULD have been goin’ to backup the play)…I actually think the runner that started on 2B would have came on around and scored…and THAT… would have been a biatch for sure…
luvthosedawgs68
July 31st, 2009
1:27 am
Heyward is not coming up until at least September…… You’ve got to look at the way the Braves front office does things, and it would be completely out of character for them to rush him up like that…..
The A Bomb
July 31st, 2009
1:27 am
Wren — Get off the online poker on the computer tomorrow and go pick up a bat.
Send Ed Norton back to Trixie.
Roman Gal
July 31st, 2009
1:29 am
I feel like this game story is missing a paragraph at the end. It leaves you with a cliffhanger…
He caught it, but slipped before he could throw. Suddenly the game was tied.
…to be continued
birddawgbill
July 31st, 2009
1:31 am
The Braves seem to be doing what they need to. A .500 road trip is not great but is still pretty good. And has anybody noticed that Kotchman has kinda turned into the straw that stirs the drink. This guy plays the best 1b D in the game. He may not hit alot of dingers but because of that he is a good clutch hitter which is very important. I would be pretty pissed if were traded.
John
July 31st, 2009
1:31 am
Fluffy
I have notified Mr Wren that I would NOT…repeat….NOT !!….veto….ANY action that resulted in the “release” of Mr Norton…I’ve given Frank…. complete freedom in this matter…
Texas Nick
July 31st, 2009
1:32 am
Would anyone do a Jordan Shafer for Heath Bell trade? Not saying I would but that is probably what is would cost
uga-brave
July 31st, 2009
1:34 am
greek food blows.
been to KYMA at least five times. tonight somewhat disapointing, all about the server.
great fish. even ate octopus. but if you eat greek the lamb should be great.
Roman Gal
July 31st, 2009
1:38 am
Would anyone do a Jordan Shafer for Heath Bell trade?
No…and I speak for everyone here.
The A Bomb
July 31st, 2009
1:41 am
Norton. . . One of these days. . . . One of these days. . . .
POW!!!!!!!!!!!! RIGHT IN THE KISSER!
uga-brave
July 31st, 2009
1:42 am
anyone ever had skate fish?
i had, well i have had octopus before. ever been to a greek fishhouse?
kyma is fresh. greek or not, greek style fish is looking at you.
birddawgbill
July 31st, 2009
1:42 am
I dont agree that KJ has no value. Its just that so many teams seem willing to trade their future that he’s not going anywhere because the teams that have these pieces others want know someone will give them alot more than the Braves will. And I can honestly see why the Braves wont do it. In the next few years they have several Division titles coming their way. And only a idiot would trade those for one wildcard.
Rob from SC
July 31st, 2009
1:43 am
who posted that fake San Diego rumor
John
July 31st, 2009
1:45 am
I guess, overall, in the history of baseball, there’s been “slower” teams than the Braves…but with…Kotchman, McCann, and Anderson (<<hittin’ too good to be called Loaf)…I think we could give whoever that team may be…a run for their money…( I sometimes think Kotchman might NOT score from 2B…on a ground rule double…and people….THAT”S slow !! )
Texas Nick
July 31st, 2009
1:45 am
Roman Gal, what if Heath Bell was cute? Just kidding!!!!!
birddawgbill
July 31st, 2009
1:47 am
Shafer straight up for Bell! Again you dont trade the future for a wildcard spot or even 1 division title. Heres hoping they stand pat. Remember around late august these fire sell teams will then just be looking to dump salary and they can get a decent reliever for virtually nothing.
Roman Gal
July 31st, 2009
1:50 am
what if Heath Bell was cute?
We could play the “what-if?” game all night, but the truth is that Bell is
a big, fat tub of goonot cute.