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Nova Scotia Steve
July 30th, 2009
3:48 pm
Rafeal a.k.a “The Scowl” a.k.a. “I’ll Kill You” a.k.a “I actually own an AKA” Soriano
Daslied
July 30th, 2009
3:50 pm
NS Steve/Russell -
We’re all still here!
SmittyNJ
July 30th, 2009
3:50 pm
haha Sorry Raffy. How about if I said I don’t believe the list only bc you’re on it….
Marc, born with the goattee….just spit a little water out.. lol.
Robert
July 30th, 2009
3:50 pm
Yeah Marcus Giles too
Couch Tater
July 30th, 2009
3:51 pm
Maybe the Ump was just stoned.
http://www.thehollywoodnews.com/artman2/uploads/1/cheech.jpg
Nova Scotia Steve
July 30th, 2009
3:51 pm
Daslied…
Just a little quiet today…I understand…
That was painful to watch last night…
fifthbusiness
July 30th, 2009
3:52 pm
Why is no one wanting David Ross to catch everyday for them? I would think the Ray’s would be glad to have him.
cabravesfan
July 30th, 2009
3:52 pm
VJ-
Since I was 27 only 3 years ago I remember it well. Question is, do you remember back that far? I imagine it was rough with no electricity or running water.
Anders
July 30th, 2009
3:53 pm
Remember when Caminiti said like 75% or so of the players were roiding and most (including me) scoffed at him? I believe him now.
Him and Canseco weren’t kidding.
David O'Brien
July 30th, 2009
3:54 pm
Kelly’s in the lineup. Don’t have the full lineup yet, going downstairs.
By the way, McCann is 0-for-16 with one walk against the Marlins this season.
DAP
July 30th, 2009
3:54 pm
marc from FLAnd does anyone find it amusing that we’re hitting home runs finally and it’s costing us games?
can you please explain that? hitting homers is costing us games how exactly?
Anders
July 30th, 2009
3:54 pm
Where was all this whining about the unpiring when Glavine was getting strikes called 3 inches off both sides of the plate for 10 years? Ques Tec sure put a damper on the last 5 years of his career.
Russell
July 30th, 2009
3:55 pm
I think Wayne In Utah is really Frank Wren
OICUB12
July 30th, 2009
3:55 pm
Whinning and excuses you’re as bad as the braves announcers
McFann Ô
July 30th, 2009
3:56 pm
Wayne Wheat Bread, Mayo, Two slices of Chicken Breast (covering ALL the bread completely), two slices of yellow cheese (not white)…
Great job! Gotta get all that meat in there…
I had my usual–Turkey, pickles, and lettuce on a hoagy roll. Hmm…
PS: There is a blue jay on my deck. He doesn’t know that there is a killer in the vicinity!
Uh-oh…he better watch out! Although, blue jays cann be mean if they want to be!
We had a baby hawk in our yard the other day (I say “baby”…he’s on his own, but still has his baby feather-markings–more speckles on his soon-to-be “red” tummy).
Chipper and Mac have both been a bit disappointing. Not doing badly, but also not doing as well as expected.
That’s the truth. I’m starting (”starting”?) to get agitated with them a little bit…what’s the freaking deal, anyway?
Anders
July 30th, 2009
3:56 pm
Apparently McCann is allergic to fish.
Original Jon
July 30th, 2009
3:57 pm
I have to figure Prado is getting the day off because he has played every game since the Braves put Kelly on the DL.
Wanted:
July 30th, 2009
3:57 pm
Put Kotchman’s @$$ on the bench, put Prado at first, and KJ at second. It’s not that hard.
Shamus Thacker
July 30th, 2009
3:57 pm
By the way, McCann is 0-for-16 with one walk against the Marlins this season.
He’s due.
braveswin
July 30th, 2009
3:57 pm
If and that’s a mighty big if MLB has any integrity at all, they will have to discipline Hahn. There is no place in the game EVER for an umpire to fist bump a player. Even if it was an innocent gesture it gives the appearance of being biased. MLB is walking a thin line with the steroid mess and now this jackass makes baseball look like roller derby. If I was the commish he would be looking for a new job today. There is no excuse that anyone can give that would excuse that so called official for that gesture. I get a feeling there will be more ejections tonight.
BravesFanChris24
July 30th, 2009
3:57 pm
KJ playing second and Prado 1st perhaps?
AndyC
July 30th, 2009
3:57 pm
I hope to God…Chipper’s name never appears on ANY roid related list…EVER – Nova Scotia Steve
Amen brother. That would be a crushing blow to the organization.
wjones
July 30th, 2009
3:57 pm
“Kotchman kills us”
If you refuse to watch the games, at least look at the box scores.
SmittyNJ
July 30th, 2009
3:58 pm
DOB – KJ in the lineup.
Kotch or Chipper sitting. Has to be.
PWHjort
July 30th, 2009
3:58 pm
Why was Spruill demoted to the GCL?
http://tinyurl.com/l3qcwn
Thrillhouse44
July 30th, 2009
3:59 pm
I guess the whining was busy servicing important clients, Anders.
(kind of sorry about that one, but couldn’t resist.)
Russell
July 30th, 2009
3:59 pm
The truth is that Wren has tried to do the best he can with the funds that have been given him. The real problem with the Braves is the ownership group that refuses to spend what it takes to truly field a contender.
Wanted:
July 30th, 2009
3:59 pm
Kotchman does kill us. If you watch the games you will see that he can’t score runners from third with less than 2-outs.
McFann Ô
July 30th, 2009
3:59 pm
DOB By the way, McCann is 0-for against the Marlins this season.
Oh! There’s a lovely stat!
Doesn’t surprise me…I hate the Marlins.
Be int’resting to see the lineup. Last time BMac got ejected, he didn’t play the next game, which was a NGADG. But I’m sure he’ll be in there tonight.
Original Jon
July 30th, 2009
3:59 pm
With the way Kotch is swinging the bat and Chipper being Chipper, I have to believe its Prado getting the day off. But maybe not, maybe its Chipper.
Heath
July 30th, 2009
3:59 pm
24 hours and counting until the trade deadline…the result of tonight’s games could determine what the Braves do…
McFann Ô
July 30th, 2009
4:00 pm
Shamus–
If you click on the link in my last post, you will see–he is BEYOND due against this team…
SmittyNJ
July 30th, 2009
4:00 pm
DOB – How many times was the term ’standing pat’ used today? lol.
Pete Orr
July 30th, 2009
4:01 pm
Players from the 2003 Braves that I wouldn’t be surprised to see on the PED list…
Jaret Wright
Javy Lopez
Marcus Giles
Gary Sheffield
Darren Holmes
Chop Chop
July 30th, 2009
4:01 pm
Nice Cheech pic, Couch Tater.
Hohn was like Cheech on space coke.
McFann Ô
July 30th, 2009
4:01 pm
Oh, and you’ll notice the Braves did sweep a two game set against the Marlins earlier this year–while BMac was on the DL…
BravesfaninWis
July 30th, 2009
4:02 pm
DOB
Don’t you agree that the Braves have to do something to at least show the fans that they want to go for it this year? The last couple of games have looked like the first half of the season and is a reminder that these Braves can fall on their face at any moment and fall completely out of contention. What do you think?
kelevra
July 30th, 2009
4:02 pm
lol pirates arnt done yet, looking to trade grabow and gorzelanny to the cubs….this is an impressive fire sale. almost the entire 2008 team is gone
Piedmont Blues (ex-BFIR)
July 30th, 2009
4:02 pm
Prado’s probably getting the night off. Earned it, too.
Rob from SC
July 30th, 2009
4:02 pm
kelevra
As long as Arrieta, Tillman, and Matusz turn into above average pitchers, the Orioles will be a very good young team. They just need a young shortstop and they will be set for the near future
OklahomaBrave
July 30th, 2009
4:03 pm
I believe that Baker should get his tower buzzed by a Vazquez 2 seamer tonight. Anyone agree?
Anders
July 30th, 2009
4:04 pm
There was a day when players couldn’t fraternize on the field before games. That’s gone. It was really not acceptable to fraternize during the game either. If it was done it was very discreetly. Today it’s outwardly acceptable. How many times do you see the guy on first watching the signals at third while talking with the first baseman? Then he turns to the 1st base coach to confirm what he thinks he saw or the coach whispers it in his ear. I see this all the time.
David Wright appears to be running for mayor over on third. He pats everyone who arrives. Chats them up etc..Listen, I know their all friends or acquaintances but theior used to be a more professional modicum on the field then what we see today. And this isn’t about sportsmanship.
My point is the one fist pump (while unnacceptable in my eyes) isn’t much different then whats going on all over the field all night.
Piedmont Blues (ex-BFIR)
July 30th, 2009
4:05 pm
Wanted:
Kotchman w/RISP: .304 BA/.414 OBP
w/RISP and 2 outs: .361 BA/.500 OBP
Maybe you’re not watching enough games.
Daslied
July 30th, 2009
4:05 pm
NS Steve – yeah, he didn’t help us out too much with our argument…We’ll do it again before his next start.
SmittyNJ
July 30th, 2009
4:05 pm
Oklahoma – Absolutely! What a dk move with the fist bump.
Original Jon
July 30th, 2009
4:05 pm
OklahomaBrave, totally agree.
Wayne in Utah
July 30th, 2009
4:07 pm
Russell and Nova Steve
I will not back down guys. Kawakami has been all we could have asked for as our 5th starter. He had a bad month in April, has been shaky, but basically well above league average for a 5th starter since Hanson came on the sceen.
Last night he sucked. Don’t know what to tell ya. Lowe sucked for a few games. Jurrjens had 1-2 bad games. Vazquez, early in the year, was catching a lot of crap due to losing it 1 inning in almost every game he threw.
He just didn’t have it last night. Whether is is hurting or not, he says no. Is he worth 7 million per year? Not MY 7 million. Heck, Prado ain’t worth MY 400K either.
But, sometimes you pay the going price.
I just have vivid memories of last years starters, after the main crew went down. It was Jurrjens, Campillo and pray for rain!
You guys can keep going on with your Kawakrappy bs, but I don’t think FW or BC are disappointed in the overall performance of him.
Just sayin.
Mitchie-san
July 30th, 2009
4:07 pm
The last game before the trade deadline is not the right time to be buzzin heads with fastballs. I am not saying Baker deserves it, but this game is pretty important and we dont need Javy to be thrown out of anything. You can bet the other umps know the Braves are pissed and might be looking for them to retaliate.
Vinings Jim
July 30th, 2009
4:07 pm
Heath – I suspect tonight’s results will have very little effect on Frank Wren unless someone breaks various legs and/or arms.
The Love Child of Dale Murphy and Johnny Cash
July 30th, 2009
4:09 pm
Steriod’s wish they could shoot up some Rafael Soriano!!!!
kelevra
July 30th, 2009
4:09 pm
rob from sc
they just trade sherill for josh bell a stud 3b/ss from the dodgers so yeah the r a 3b or ss away from having young, cheap studs at every position…..if the pitching comes around
Wanted:
July 30th, 2009
4:09 pm
Piedmont Blues – he should be driving in more runs in those situations. He, along with the rest of the team, needs to be better at getting runners over, as well as hitting sac flys, or getting runners in, while not getting hits.
Yeh he is a nice average with RISP, but he doesn’t get runners in UNLESS he gets a hit. You can have a lower average with RISP yet score more runs for you team, by making good outs.
Average isn’t everything with RISP and with Runners on 3rd with less than 2-outs.
SmittyNJ
July 30th, 2009
4:10 pm
Mitchie-san – not a plunk, but some chin music to let him know we didn’t miss it. This team needs the fire relit starting tonight and I couldn’t think of a better way.
On the other hand, it’s not something our staff usually does (if they have at all recently) so it’s a moot point I believe.
Piedmont Blues (ex-BFIR)
July 30th, 2009
4:11 pm
Wayne,
Agreed on the 4:07.
It’s Kawakami’s first lousy start in weeks (months), and those who didn’t like him to begin with feel vindicated.
People sure do have short memories. Oh, and another member of last year’s revolving door (Elmer Dessens) just got cut. Again.
Anders
July 30th, 2009
4:11 pm
I didn’t see the fist pump. Did they pull away with the explosion spread of the fingers? THAT would be crazy. Hohn could have followed it with a one legged hop while holding one hand over his crotch.
They would have had to hold Chipper back like Jack Nicholson at the end of A Few Good Men trying to get at Tom Cruise. “You F…d With the wrong Brave! I’m gonna rip that mask off your head”…and so on”
Robert
July 30th, 2009
4:11 pm
Wayne -Yes, KK has been acceptable as a fifth starter. But he hasnt been acceptable for his price tag – for $8 million dollars you expect more than a fifth starter
Bad Scooter
July 30th, 2009
4:11 pm
when was this toss a thon 3 years ago with Hahn
wjones
July 30th, 2009
4:11 pm
“Where are all the Kawakrappy lovers today???”
It’s called a bad game. McCann had one, and so did Prado. It hurts when it’s the pitcher, though. He didn’t seem the same after the Johnson homer, did he? Maybe there is an injury that no one is talking about, because all of a sudden Hudson is back in the rotation when he gets back, when earlier talk had speculated him going to the pen.
DAP
July 30th, 2009
4:11 pm
do any of you guys remember the email address that jim powell gives out for the radio booth? its something like radiobooth@ whatever…. i cant remember what comes after @. any help?
Hillbilly
July 30th, 2009
4:12 pm
I believe that Baker should get his tower buzzed by a Vazquez 2 seamer tonight. Anyone agree?
It’s times like this AND ONLY times like this that I long to see Jeff Bennett on the mound. An “Alfonso Soriano Buzz” and a “Clubhouse Door Fist Bump” should get the point across to Baker, no?
Wanted:
July 30th, 2009
4:12 pm
Once in a blue moon, Casey K will swing as hard as he can and get into one for a homer. But its the at bats like last night and the night before where he doesn’t get the runner home from third with less than 2-outs that kills the team.
Yeh, he went 2 for 4 last night with a homer and 1 rbi.
But he could very well have been 2 for 3 with 2 rbis.
Original Jon
July 30th, 2009
4:13 pm
Anders, you didnt see the fist pump because it was a fist bump instead, lol.
Robert
July 30th, 2009
4:13 pm
“not a plunk, but some chin music to let him know we didn’t miss it.”
so that more Braves can get summarilty ejected? – What is the sense of escalating a situation that you can not win?
Use it to motivate the guys in the clubhouse, but do not do something stupid on the field
Nova Scotia Steve
July 30th, 2009
4:14 pm
I’m at work…and I just burst out laughing at that Cheech and Chong “Space Coke” youtube video….holy jesus that was funny!
Thanks for posting
Piedmont Blues (ex-BFIR)
July 30th, 2009
4:14 pm
Wanted:
Kotchman’s not going to remind anyone of Tex. You want him to hit 30 HR and 50 2B and drive in 120 runs? It’s not happening. Ever. That doesn’t mean he’s a bum. When I looked up his stats for 2009 I was pleasantly surprised, especially since he’s hit 8th pretty regularly.
McFann Ô
July 30th, 2009
4:15 pm
wjones It’s called a bad game. McCann had one…
One?
RHR
July 30th, 2009
4:15 pm
Bill Hohn
July 30th, 2009
4:16 pm
Eric Gregg Who????????????????
Wayne in Utah
July 30th, 2009
4:16 pm
Russell
Frank Wren ain’t half as good looking as I am! (though he is a handsome man, but I make that dude on the Dos Equis commercial look like a wimp!)
RHR
July 30th, 2009
4:17 pm
Terrible, Anders @ 4:11, just terrible. One of your worst.
Nova Scotia Steve
July 30th, 2009
4:17 pm
“when earlier talk had speculated him (Hudson) going to the pen”
That was speculation from Ken Rosenthal looking for a story.
DOB stated last night…not an official quote…”Why would the Braves ask a guy in Hudson to do something he’s never done before by pitching out of the bullpen when coming back from Tommy John”
Its true it makes no sense what-so-ever.
It was reported ONCE by Rosenthal and his boyfriend..that Hudson may pitch put the bullpen upon his return…
OklahomaBrave
July 30th, 2009
4:17 pm
I say bring Norton in relief to hit Baker. Maybe he will fill like part of the team then. As previously stated earlier there will be no retaliation. Even though I think this team could use a spark even if it is a good old fashioned brawl. But please don’t let Uggla and those popeye arms anywhere near Hanson.
wjones
July 30th, 2009
4:17 pm
“Once in a blue moon, Casey K will swing as hard as he can and get into one for a homer. But its the at bats like last night and the night before where he doesn’t get the runner home from third with less than 2-outs that kills the team.
Yeh, he went 2 for 4 last night with a homer and 1 rbi.
But he could very well have been 2 for 3 with 2 rbis.”
Well, then, I see your point–we should just shoot him! Did you actually post this? The real killers last night, other than KK throwing batting practice for an inning or so, were Prado and McCann, and I certainly don’t want to get rid of them!
SmittyNJ
July 30th, 2009
4:18 pm
Robert – not many teams would let a bush league gesture like that go. Braves normally do and are sometimes considered soft for it. Just looking for some fire.
Unless the ump gives a preemptive warning before the game, no one will get tossed for an inside fastball. Especially anyone besides the pitcher (not sure your point on that one)
But I concede, it’s not our way, so it’s not like I’ll be disappointed to not see it.
Heath
July 30th, 2009
4:19 pm
VJ -
A Braves loss coupled with a Giants win doesn’t cause a little concern for Braves management? That puts the Braves in a tie with Houston for 5th place 5 games back of the Giants and 3 full games behind the Marlins.
Wanted:
July 30th, 2009
4:20 pm
Piedmont Blues – Since he isn’t Tex and since he isn’t going to hit for power, he has to do the little things well, like hit sac flys, sac bunts, etc. He’s got to be able to do that and produce more runs for this team.
Like I said, there is a big difference between 2 for 4 with a HR and 1 RBI
then 2 for 3 with a HR and 2RBIs.
The game being 6-4 is manageable. 6-3 isn’t quite as manageable for this team.
Same goes with the game the other night. Not hitting sac flys, made the game 3-2 instead of 4-2. Soriano gives up a 2-run shot and the game is over, when it should’ve been tied.
richbrave
July 30th, 2009
4:21 pm
ELMER FUDD, err, DRESSENS is cut again? Surprise, surprise, surprise.
kelevra
July 30th, 2009
4:21 pm
if we loose tonight, anybody think we should take advantage of g.anderson’s hot streak and get something for him. the giants are just handing out top pitching prospects for marginal offensive players. i say we get in on it.
OklahomaBrave
July 30th, 2009
4:21 pm
Robert, how is brushing someone back and letting them know you’re aware of the situation bad? The Rays started it back in spring training last year and it showed the sox and yanks that they won’t be intimidated. The Braves need to start playing with a chip on their shoulder.
Nova Scotia Steve
July 30th, 2009
4:21 pm
I’m affraid about talking poorly about Soriano…That man could have Juan Uribe type connections…anywhere in the world.
He’s a mean dude
Robert
July 30th, 2009
4:21 pm
“Just looking for some fire. ”
No problem with that – keep it in the clubhouse. If the Braves instigate something by starting to throw at people, they can not win that situation. If they use it to motivate themselevs in the clubhouse and focus their energies to execute well to beat the Marlins, then it can be productive
wjones
July 30th, 2009
4:21 pm
“DOB stated last night…not an official quote…”Why would the Braves ask a guy in Hudson to do something he’s never done before by pitching out of the bullpen when coming back from Tommy John”
Its true it makes no sense what-so-ever.”
I agree. That would be as stupid as when Smoltz had his surgery. Some folks thought he would be great as a closer, that it would save his arm, but why would you ask him to do something he hadn’t done before?
Frank from KS (now living in CO)
July 30th, 2009
4:22 pm
Hi fellow bloggers.
Wayne
I seen ya mention a former ump on the last blog.
How bout *Balk-a-day* Bob Davidson?
LOL
Him and Bobby got into it a few times as I can recall.
kelevra
July 30th, 2009
4:22 pm
lose*
Piedmont Blues (ex-BFIR)
July 30th, 2009
4:23 pm
wjones,
Yeah, I’m with you. Release Heap. Send Prado to Gwinnett. They made outs with men in scoring position. Off with their heads!
Nova Scotia Steve
July 30th, 2009
4:23 pm
Tim Hudson is not John Smoltz
njbraves
July 30th, 2009
4:23 pm
The KK apologist always make me laugh. Watch JJ and Javy pitch, then watch KK pitch. Notice any differences?? The guy is not very good and I’m not basing it only on last night. He’s a bullpen killer. He always has a high pitch count because he pitches away from contact. Someone need sto tell this guy that first pitch ground balls are your friend.
Robert
July 30th, 2009
4:24 pm
“The Braves need to start playing with a chip on their shoulder.”
Agreed. And right now that chip should be directed at themselves. They are the ones who havent been executing well, havent been playing solid fundamentals. Focus that chip on improving their own play and good things might happen. Focus it on throwing at the other team or further getting into with the umps, and we’ll wind up with guys serving suspensions while we are trying to stay in a wild-card race
SmittyNJ
July 30th, 2009
4:24 pm
What do we know about this VandenHurk kid going tonight?
Jay212033
July 30th, 2009
4:24 pm
We need to trade Vazquez and trade him now! We could get a ton for him now!
RHR
July 30th, 2009
4:25 pm
Hey is that Hohn dude gonna be on the field tonight? Maybe Chipper gets the night off? Dang I wish Kelly could catch.
Frank from KS (now living in CO)
July 30th, 2009
4:25 pm
And whoever said that they wouldn’t be surprised that Smoltz was on that list too
I want to add one more
Glavine.
njbraves
July 30th, 2009
4:25 pm
Robert…what the hell is “summarilty” mean?? I know you’re dumb, but wow.
richbrave
July 30th, 2009
4:26 pm
HEY ANDERS:
I thought your 4:11 p.m. was going to YUMA. Oh, right, that’s 3:10. Sorry. Actually, I found your scenerio mildly amusing, and not offensive in the least. I get more torked by METS players using the term “those people” to describe fellow professional baseball players(BRAVES). But hey, that’s just me. So yuck it up party boy.
Tito Fuentes
July 30th, 2009
4:26 pm
Bill Hohn — Eric Gregg the late Eric Gregg was a suspended ump who died broke. He LOLed after a Braves Marlin playoff game about how wide he made the strike zone for Marlins … dont play dumb when you have to be the show piece in a game that really needs umps to be invisible … Hope at least you get your pension unlike Eric your mentor.
beachcomber
July 30th, 2009
4:26 pm
Just an idle question. When was the last time, other than the infamous strike situation, when an ump was not invited back the next year? Hohn seems to qualify. Teams dump ineffective people every week why not MLB?
RHR
July 30th, 2009
4:27 pm
Surprisingly, Kelly has faced Vandenhurk the most of anyone on the team…but he’s .000.
Braves hitters vs Rick VandenHurk
2009 2004-2008
Hitter AVG AB HR RBI AVG AB HR RBI
Anderson, Garret - - - - - - - -
Church, Ryan - - - - .500 2 0 0
Diaz, Matt - - - - .333 3 0 0
Escobar, Yunel - - - - .286 7 0 0
Hernandez, Diory - - - - - - - -
Johnson, Kelly - - - - .000 9 0 0
Jones, Chipper - - - - .000 4 0 0
Kotchman, Casey - - - - - - - -
McCann, Brian - - - - .500 6 1 1
McLouth, Nate - - - - .500 2 0 1
Norton, Greg - - - - - - - -
Prado, Martin - - - - - - - -
Ross, David - - - - .500 2 0 0
njbraves
July 30th, 2009
4:28 pm
Please stop saying we need to trade Javy. We’re 4 games out of the WC, you don’t trade a top starter when you have a chance. Just because some don’t think the Braves can make the playoffs, doesn’t mean that’s what the Braves think.
Robert
July 30th, 2009
4:29 pm
“The KK apologist always make me laugh”
All the guy said is that KK has been an acceptable fifth starter. Name me the fifth starters that arent bullpen killers – like, if they werent bullpen killer,s they wouldnt be fifth starters
Of course there WAS the 98 Braves whoswe fifth starter was a 17 game winner – and yet somehow that team didnt achieve anything, but that’s a different story that y’all dont wanna hear about
Anders
July 30th, 2009
4:29 pm
I get more torked by METS players using the term “those people” to describe fellow professional baseball players(BRAVES). (RichBrave)
I have no idea what you’re talking about here?