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Dubya Cubed
July 30th, 2009
10:28 pm
B’Mac, you build it and I will come!!!
Mixxo
July 30th, 2009
10:28 pm
See Mac look back at the ump?
Paul Lentz
July 30th, 2009
10:28 pm
Nice comeback with the 3 strikeouts, despite that screw up on the ground ball to Kelly to start the inning.
A much needed victory.
BravesFanChris24
July 30th, 2009
10:28 pm
Take that* ~_~
Rob from SC
July 30th, 2009
10:28 pm
Jman
The manager needs to make sure you do the little things or they should be sent down until they learn.
Bubba
July 30th, 2009
10:28 pm
Cant believe we won it. Still cant stand the thought of norton pitch hitting in big spots for the rest of the year
Roja
July 30th, 2009
10:29 pm
Moylan gets the W
Jake W.
July 30th, 2009
10:29 pm
Pitching is a beautiful thing when they are calling that low strike. Good win for the Braves, needed it. Lets Go Phillies.(Gotta admit that sounds very wierd).
Chop Chop
July 30th, 2009
10:29 pm
Take that, Hohn!
That’s right! You tried to screw us!
Yeah! You can’t f**king cheat us anymore!
Yeah!
We didn’t get swept! We’re golden gods!
Reid in EAV
July 30th, 2009
10:29 pm
Big props to THE SCOWL. Fielding gaffe aside, that was a formidable display. We ARE going to re-sign this guy, yes?
Firetheoldfool
July 30th, 2009
10:29 pm
ChurchMan. Stay out of it. Cox is an awful manager and where have you been lately.
NCBravesFan
July 30th, 2009
10:29 pm
Nice win – overcame the obstacles and rolled with the injuries plus the blown save in the eighth by Gonzo. Absolutely had to win this game and they did it.
Gone Viral
July 30th, 2009
10:29 pm
“I don’t think Bobby is gonna run out onto the field and run to first to cover what Soriano is supposed to do”
Nor was he the one who did the coaching of that during Spring Training nor was he the only manager Soriano had in his career. It’s hysterical watching people try to blame whipping boys like KJ, Kotchman and Cox because the stud had a brain cramp.
Soriano made a mistake, folks. It happens. Then, he mowed down everyone else. Like KJ, he manned up after the misstep. That’s to both of their credit. It’s okay to compliment people, I swear.
Tomahawkin
July 30th, 2009
10:29 pm
Rob From SC…
I mentioned that 2 years ago and I got my ass handed to me by some of the blind posters….
Gone Viral
July 30th, 2009
10:29 pm
Sorry, folks. Braves win.
BravesFaninMD
July 30th, 2009
10:29 pm
Wayne in Utah: If I don’t rant here, then I rant at my wife…. she’s had 26 years of me ranting/cheering at the Braves, so she doesn’t even pay attention anymore so it’s more fun here
kirkinga
July 30th, 2009
10:29 pm
Glad to be getting away from these guys. Looking forward to seeing the Dodgers.
Jman
July 30th, 2009
10:30 pm
Right.. so hypothetically we use Ross and he K’s with the bases loaded… McCann takes a foul ball to the facemask and gets knocked out… Matt Diaz comes in to play catcher… Which pitcher do you want playing OF? What happens if the Marlins tie? We go another few innings with a freakin pitcher playing in the OF! Get off of Bobby you fools!
Richie
July 30th, 2009
10:30 pm
Whew!! Ball game over…Hopefully the Norton Saga is over and Brooks comes back. Buster Olney is reporting, via Espn Insider & MLB Trade Rumors, the Braves will make a minor move. I personally think they need to get an impact bat and an arm but I don’t think Frank Wren is listening to us
Bravesrule97
July 30th, 2009
10:30 pm
Molyan got the win and deserves it.
He got literally 5-6 outs in an inning thanks to KJ.
Mixxo
July 30th, 2009
10:30 pm
BravesFaninMD @10:27
Yep, that must be it. Thanks man!
PWHjort
July 30th, 2009
10:30 pm
And that falls on the manager
How? Do explain. I get doggin’ Bobby when he makes a bad in-game decision, but someone not being able to execute something they’ve been executing since 2nd grade is in no way Bobby’s fault.
cabravesfan
July 30th, 2009
10:31 pm
VJ-
“that evil city out west”?? Have you ever even been here? Now, if you had said “that evil team from out west” that would have been acceptable…otherwise [expletive deleted] you!
McFann ;Ô;
July 30th, 2009
10:31 pm
Wayne–
You’re good!
Jammie–
I’m with you…Love it.
Mixxo See Mac look back at the ump?
I did! That was funny. He was prob’ly like, “You wanna fist-bump?”
Night, all!!
Poorbrave
July 30th, 2009
10:31 pm
I’ll take TORREEEEEEEEEEEE, too.
Jeff R
July 30th, 2009
10:31 pm
Braves have 60 more games. Does it take 90 wins to secure the wild-card?
Vinings Jim
July 30th, 2009
10:31 pm
Rob from SC – are you advocating sending Soriano to the minors so he remembers to cover first?
Rob from SC
July 30th, 2009
10:31 pm
PWHjort
July 30th, 2009
10:30 pm
And that falls on the manager
How? Do explain. I get doggin’ Bobby when he makes a bad in-game decision, but someone not being able to execute something they’ve been executing since 2nd grade is in no way Bobby’s fault.
Its many player that don’t do the little things.
BravesFaninMD
July 30th, 2009
10:32 pm
I’m glad the Braves won, but folks we gotta pray tonight that they’ve seen the light and release Norton!
Rob from SC
July 30th, 2009
10:32 pm
Vinings Jim
That was a grounder to 2B, Most pitchers would not cover.
NCBravesFan
July 30th, 2009
10:32 pm
Jman @ 10:30 – you think common sense works with the Bobby bashers? You must be new around here.
Jeff R
July 30th, 2009
10:32 pm
Torre… I seem to recall the name. Former Braves catcher and manager. Middling success in both roles.
Reid in EAV
July 30th, 2009
10:32 pm
OK, we lost the series and this was just one game of 162, but that was an awfully satisfying win. About 50 reasons we should have lost, but we didn’t.
Tomahawkin
July 30th, 2009
10:33 pm
Well Rob From SC
I might take my last statement back
Because we have played good against the better teams of baseball this year
At the same time That off day hurt us and killed our momentum…
Our Offense came into this series executing with Neolithic Incompotence and the marlins took advantage!!!
Plus we Got Screwed in the first 2 games…!
You Can Bet Your Ass that D.O.B. is ready to get out of that house of horrors….!
Rob from SC
July 30th, 2009
10:33 pm
Vinings Jim
Bobby Cox should have Kelly Johnson out their everyday taking extra ground balls and working on turnig the double play because he is a terrible fielder
CrimeDog
July 30th, 2009
10:33 pm
Rob-
That’s common baseball knowledge that every player has since grade school. It’s not a manager’s job to worry about those things. Just like it’s not Bill Bellichek’s job to teach a running back how to hold a football and it’s not Phil Jackson’s job to teach Kobe how to execute a bounce pass. Those skills are expected upon being paid millions to play.
richbrave
July 30th, 2009
10:34 pm
I’ve always wondered if JOE TORRE would have been a better manager than COX in ATLANTA. I like TORRE.
Paul Lentz
July 30th, 2009
10:34 pm
If Greg Norton isnt released before tomorrow’s game………….then he is here to stay for the rest of the year. What MORE does Bobby (let’s be real, it’s his decision) need to see that Greg Norton is finished? Bobby needs to allow Frank Wren to do his job and put the BEST players he can on this team. Two months in the season, the Braves are going to need contributions from EVERYONE on this team to make a serious run at the play-offs.
MIBravesFan
July 30th, 2009
10:34 pm
Whoever the idiot was who recently called Brian McCann “McChoke” – choke on them apples!
Atlanta Cowards
July 30th, 2009
10:34 pm
HOHN HATERS. They just said at the end of the 9:00 BAseball Tonight that they are going to be talking about that incident on the 12:00 Baseball Tonight. In case anyone cares…
CrimeDog
July 30th, 2009
10:34 pm
Ok Rob-
How do you know Kelly isn’t out there taking ground balls every day?
Jeff R
July 30th, 2009
10:35 pm
We gotta stick to the Dud-gers this weekend. Never could stand the Trolley Dud-gers.
Justafan
July 30th, 2009
10:35 pm
Please Frank make a move for Wuertz are another releif pitcher . Maybe another hitter.
UNCBrave
July 30th, 2009
10:35 pm
Norton can not play the field or hit a fastball…
RELEASE NORTON tomorrow and bring back BROOKS CONRAD…
BTW, BURKE has GOT to be better than Hernandez
Jman
July 30th, 2009
10:35 pm
Still gotta make a deal fellas…
PWHjort
July 30th, 2009
10:36 pm
So when Kelly bobbles a ball then tosses it to 2nd like an idiot that’s Bobby’s fault? Or when Casey starts toward a ball and the pitcher fails to cover 1st that’s Bobby’s fault? I don’t see the logic. Those mistakes are in no way Bobby’s fault.
Vinings Jim
July 30th, 2009
10:36 pm
Rob from SC – the first baseman took three steps into the hole – as soon as the first baseman moves that way the pitcher has to cover (done it many times myself).
UNCBrave
July 30th, 2009
10:36 pm
BLOG POLL HERE:
Which will the Braves trade for?
A) Reliever
B) Pitcher
C) Both
D) Neither “Stand Pat”
Wayne in Utah
July 30th, 2009
10:36 pm
BravesfaninMD
Hey, I get as frustrated as the next guy (well, maybe not THAT frustrated). I understand a rant from a true fan.
What kills me, and I guess it won’t change, is that the whole pretext of a blog lets folks just go on and on continually, about every game, inning, at bat and pitch.
Know what I mean??? We SUCK. Then Mac hits a long one, and then they change their tune so fast, it makes me dizzy. BRING ON THEM DODGERS, they will yell, about 5 minutes after calling a 1/3 of our team idiots.
In the real world, a player makes an error, then turns a great DP just a bit later. He makes a GREAT pitch, and the batter squibs one through.
Baseball is a beautiful game. I originally discovered the blog here, and enjoyed the out and back discussions with folks on my beloved Braves. Then as the blog got more popular, the idiocy level increased geometrically.
I just get a bit frustrated with all the fair weather fans.
Jeff R
July 30th, 2009
10:36 pm
I’m with Paul Lentz. This argument that Norton plays first is hogwash. The guy ain’t doing it, period.
Might Wren get anything in return for Johnson?
ChurchMan
July 30th, 2009
10:37 pm
Nor was he the one who did the coaching of that during Spring Training nor was he the only manager Soriano had in his career. It’s hysterical watching people try to blame whipping boys like KJ, Kotchman and Cox because the stud had a brain cramp
Casey needs to know how the other guys are aligned so he doesn’t cover their spots and Soriano needs to watch to see where the ball goes and anything hit to his left he needs to jolt over to first
Sure they can blame the manager when something he himself does goes wrong
but not .. for … every … little … thing.
I guess it’s just easy to place blame on the manager, I don’t know ….
Heath
July 30th, 2009
10:37 pm
SFO gets that run back pretty quickly.
Jammie
July 30th, 2009
10:37 pm
I am glad we won the game, though very disappointed that Javier did not get the win, he truly deserves the win. This Marlin team is good, but I still believe we could have swept them or take 2 of 3 which was my prediction prior to the start of the series. BMac is undoubtedly the team leader, he shows it by his passion and example. I believe that with BMac, Escobar, McLouth, Prado and Kotchman we have a good nucleus and should keep us in the chase for years to come. I am aware that many fans want to see Kotchman goes but I am one exception, we don’t need everybody swinging for the fences, He hits well in the clutch and plays a solid D, and is very young.
Heath
July 30th, 2009
10:37 pm
….and now takes the lead 2-1
PWHjort
July 30th, 2009
10:37 pm
Sumoza went 3-4 with a double tonight. Hoover got roughed up.
BravesFaninMD
July 30th, 2009
10:37 pm
Maybe they trade Kelly tonight or tomorrow… they should’ve dealt him after he went 3 for 4 the other night… after tonight’s fiasco who would bite???
Heath
July 30th, 2009
10:38 pm
UNC -
‘C’
Steve from OH
July 30th, 2009
10:38 pm
UNCBrave–got any contributions other than TRADE TRADE TRADE?
I’ll go “D,” btw.
ChurchMan
July 30th, 2009
10:38 pm
From MLBTR
ESPN.com’s Buster Olney reports that the Braves could make a minor addition.
I don’t even mind a little addition, it at least shows that there’s a will to go out and improve the team in whatever way possible and however little it might help.
Heath
July 30th, 2009
10:39 pm
Cox made the argument to keep Cox already…his pinch hits LAST YEAR. Cox, last year has nothing to do with this year, sir.
Lou Vales
July 30th, 2009
10:39 pm
To any members of the Hermida family. Jeremy is lost in South Florida. We will hold him for you at a big old stadium off the Florida Turnpike. It is time for him to return to Marietta and do whatever Jeremy is meant to do. After seeing an AB in the bottom of the 8th inning with the bases loaded, I believe that even people who truly love Jeremy for his decency as a person will know it’s time to rescue him. If you come and get him, you also never have to worry about a flyball hitting him on the head.
Jeff R
July 30th, 2009
10:39 pm
Go for a reliever. The pen needs some shoring up.
Vinings Jim
July 30th, 2009
10:39 pm
cabravesfan – you’re just too easy (I mean to rile up – pushing certain buttons, not anything else). And I have been there often – and, who knows when I might make my way out there again? Especially given certain attractions I have recently discovered out there. And, nice mouth, babe.
PWHjort
July 30th, 2009
10:40 pm
Brian Barton went 1-1 with a HR and 2 BB.
Paul Lentz
July 30th, 2009
10:41 pm
Hopefully that Dodgers-Cardinals can go another 14 innings tonight. Nice to wear out that Dodgers bullpen before they come to town tomorrow.
Heath
July 30th, 2009
10:41 pm
The Braves use to the team that had the least amount of “buzz” before they made a trade. When a trade went down in the past, everyone was surprised…hopefully they are getting back to those days and that is the reason for the lack of trade news for the team.
UNCBrave
July 30th, 2009
10:41 pm
“FIXED” BLOG POLL HERE:
Which will the Braves trade for?
A) Reliever
B) Hitter
C) Both
D) Neither “Stand Pat”
Jeff R
July 30th, 2009
10:41 pm
Trade Johnson? Comke to think of it, wave Johnson. Can’t underscore enough that up the middle defense is second only to pitching in importance.
cabravesfan
July 30th, 2009
10:42 pm
VJ-
you call my hometown evil- what do you expect?? And [expletive deleted] on the mouth comment- if I wanted to be a “lady” I wouldn’t be posting on the blog…
PWHjort
July 30th, 2009
10:42 pm
UNCBrave,
Isn’t a reliever, by definition, a pitcher? Just sayin’….
BravesFaninMD
July 30th, 2009
10:42 pm
Wayne in Utah: Totally understand and there are times that I yell at the screen and think “why am I yelling? It is only a game and those guys are more talented than I could ever dream of being!” When I’m actually at the ballpark I never get into the game as much, but watching it live action on TV I think we are lulled into the belief that it is so simple. We see the ball going right down the middle and when Diaz swings through it our first reaction is “Idiot!” so we blog it.
That doesn’t make us fair weather fans… it’s just an outlet….
BravesFaninMD
July 30th, 2009
10:43 pm
UNCBrave: D, Stand pat.
PWHjort
July 30th, 2009
10:44 pm
Julio Teheran’s nickname: The Cartagena Kid? He pitched 8 with 11 K’s, 2 hits (1 3B, 1 single), and 1 walk tonight.
Steve from OH
July 30th, 2009
10:44 pm
Wouldn’t mind a minor trade for a reliever under control for 2010, but as far as big acquisitions…not a fan.
Freddy G
July 30th, 2009
10:44 pm
Joe Simpson is a clown, he is so biased, there is no way Soriano could have gotten to the bag before Cantu. I like Kotch a lot, but this one is on him, he should have moved to the bag as that ball was going to Kelly.
richbrave
July 30th, 2009
10:44 pm
I say this is a game we would not have won before JULY of this year or in the past three seasons. Despite the UMPS best efforts, we pulled it out when the chips were down. If not for MEALS and HOHN we would have surely won two, and possibly had a sweep.
Wayne in Utah
July 30th, 2009
10:44 pm
Since I missed about half the game, was there any word on Prado, Escobar and Church?
Thanks in advance.
Vinings Jim
July 30th, 2009
10:44 pm
cabravesfan – no wonder I am so crazy about you.
richbrave
July 30th, 2009
10:46 pm
I’m sayin’ HERNANDEZ out, INFANTE in in two weeks or so.
cabravesfan
July 30th, 2009
10:46 pm
VJ-
that is most definitely a “you” problem
Al
July 30th, 2009
10:46 pm
Does BC have daughters? Are they Ms. Johnson and Ms. Norton?
Paul Lentz
July 30th, 2009
10:47 pm
Heath……..when it became apparent that Horton had lost it earlier this year, he should have been released. Instead Braves management sent him to Triple A, allowed him to “rehab”, and then called him up to SUCK A$$ at the plate since his call-up.
Ryan Langerhans anyone? Chris Woodward? Pete Orr? Ruben Gotay? Julio Franco (his second stint with the Braves). Do pinch hitters on their last legs use Atlanta as their last stop on their way out of baseball?
monty
July 30th, 2009
10:47 pm
How we got out of the 9th without them scoring I’ll never know! Thought the season was down the tube. But BMACC showed us once again why he is the new leader.
Wayne in Utah
July 30th, 2009
10:47 pm
I always love a BIG trade, I just don’t think it will happen. I wouldn’t mind us going after a Wuerth or Qualls though.
And for the Norton lovers, I will be real surprised if he is still in a Braves uni in a week. Bobby stays with guys a long time (as you all are acutely aware), but his patience is not unlimited.
Jake W.
July 30th, 2009
10:47 pm
“I just get a bit frustrated with all the fair weather fans.”
Schizophrenic is more like it.
richbrave
July 30th, 2009
10:47 pm
WAYNE IN UTAH:
ESCO has a contusion above the wrist bone. No X-ray taken. Day to day. Same for PRADO.
Rob from SC
July 30th, 2009
10:47 pm
Rough night for Heyward.
MIBravesFan
July 30th, 2009
10:49 pm
I think Norton will actually be released soon, but why it’s taking this long is one of the reasons players love playing for Bobby – he sees it from their point of view, and he cares about them. And for what has become an instant gratification sports society, you either don’t get that or you just don’t care, because it’s all now or nothing, and no one who doesn’t contribute to that RIGHT NOW does not matter (which is why so many are willing to trade very good prospects to “upgrade” 1st base! even though Kotchman is contributing RIGHT NOW!
N8
July 30th, 2009
10:49 pm
Brewdawg, you obviously think that Javier is a stopper and the ace of the staff. You obviously feel that this team is on it’s way to WS contention.
But alas, you’re right. Javier won’t receive his trophy until after the WS. My bad.
Don’t bitch at me dude. You called me out. You put words in my mouth. You also accused me of assuming I’m always right. Right?
I’m not always right. But this time I am. Vazquez is not a consistent stopper. Never has been. Never will be. The Braves won tonight, despite him giving up the lead with a HR and then walking a guy in a 1-run game. It’s about time they did so, after having let him down for most of the season.
But for somebody to say “poor Javy” and that the team let him down tonight? Whatever.
Gone Viral, I had a long post that the blog ate, responding to your rant about people hoping for a loss.
I don’t ever specifically root for a loss so I can play gotcha!
However, I wouldn’t have been heartbroken with a loss tonight, as it may have made Wren do the right thing and sell high on three guys (Soriano, Gonzo and perhaps Vazquez) that might not be on the team next year.
This team is an enigma. One week they’re on their way to the WS, the next week they play like crap. For the most part, it’s been very entertaining. But I’m still not sold on this team winning enough to get there this year, and I certainly wouldn’t fault Wren for sacrificing this season for future success.
This team will be really good next year, if Wren makes the right moves. If Wren truly believes that this is going to make the playoffs and do something when there, I’m OK with him going for it. How could I not be? But if he’s just publicly stating it to sell tickets? That sucks.
So, in closing. Would I root for a loss for my own personal instant gratification of mockery on the ole’ blog? No.
Would I root for a loss, when I don’t think a slew of victories are on the horizon, the deadline for trading off players less than 24 hours away, and the promise of a better tomorrow by doing so giving me gratification and a better team to watch for the next few years?
You bet your ass I would. But instead we win tonight (despite flaws) and Wren will tweek a little here and there, and come October, we’ll be watching, and then we’ll watch Soriano and Gonzo both leave via free agency.
Sell now. Win next year. We’re closer than the Pirates. We are a few good trades and signings by Wren away from keeping up with the Phillies (for real) next year. Otherwise, Wren will be left with free agency and trading prospects to improve the club for next year, this winter. Why not start now?
Jake W.
July 30th, 2009
10:50 pm
Three guys hurt, at least 2 day to day according to the broadcast. We need some depth. Didn’t hear what they said on Church but you got to have someone with both Prado and Esco hurt.
monty
July 30th, 2009
10:50 pm
As I said last night that Cox will keep using Norton until he proves everyone else wrong! Wish FW could step in and over-rule BC and bring up Conrad or anyone else! Norton is automatic!
ChurchMan
July 30th, 2009
10:50 pm
Good dramatic win tonight and what’s better no off day tomorrow to try and kill what they might have gained from this.
Lose 2-3 to the Marlins but win the last game, momentum’s got to start again somehow.
Lou Vales
July 30th, 2009
10:51 pm
Read the talk about the Braves getting “tough” in this game and I was just wondering, not counting John Rocker when was the last Braves player to demonstrate malice towards an opponent? Chipper actually went out of his way to give Hanley a hug before the game tonight. He much prefers fraternizing with the other team than getting into a brawl with them. Check out how before a game he almost wants to stretch with team Braves are playing.
Braves ain’t getting tough with anybody unless it’s an undersized Blog writer.
Wayne in Utah
July 30th, 2009
10:51 pm
Paul
Norton did well up at Gwinnett. The expectation was that he might turn it around.
Like I have said a multitude of times, the Braves have a lot of patience with their players. That is one of the reason Bobby is beloved by those who play or have played with them.
All you fantasy baseball folks out there (not slamming fantasy leagues, just never got into them) have issues with a manager not moving folks out quicker. But, that’s the real world, and not fantasy baseball.
richbrave
July 30th, 2009
10:51 pm
HEYWARD has an o-fer night.
Wayne in Utah
July 30th, 2009
10:51 pm
Send the big boy back to Myrtle Beach!
Jman
July 30th, 2009
10:52 pm
Gotta bring Conrad back up, Bobby…
Paul Lentz
July 30th, 2009
10:52 pm
I found a “hitter” with worse stats than Greg Norton. Jonathan Sanchez (left handed pitcher who threw a no-hitter for the Giants a few weeks ago), is 0 for 22 with 18 strikeouts this season.
Then, the Phillies pitcher just walked him on 4 straight pitches, lol.
Unbelievable.
Shamus Thacker
July 30th, 2009
10:52 pm
I was really down when Vazquez watched another lead go bye-bye, feel like a million now!
Gonna hava couple’a Hebrew National Hot Dogs, some pulled Lays tater chips (cheddar & sour cream); even thought about pulling some delicious Vann Camp’s Poke n’ Beans. Course I’ll light one piece of charcoal and pit-cook the little porklets in the Poke n’ Beans…. Then pull’um…
Boy/Gal, I can’t f’n wait!
Bye all!
AustinBrave
July 30th, 2009
10:53 pm
Its time to release Norton and bring up Conrad with Prado and Esco hurt. Perfect time to make the switch.