2:57 pm July 29, 2009, by David O'Brien
July 29th, 20096:55 pm
DOB – Is it still raining at the stadium? We are about to leave the house to come down.
July 29th, 20096:56 pm
Thursday? What, are you walking??
(time to leave- talk to y’all in a bit )
How many minor leaguers can you have? We’ll give you Norton and Bennett for Grabow. Geeez
Suddenly Francoeur changes teams and puts up numbers like the very beginning of his career again — the power numbers, the RBI, the average, and the one walk in 60 plate appearances.
Bay Area Steve
July 29th, 20096:57 pm
I just need a less-vulgar word, that can imply a similar message. Aaah, if only I had the wit of bubd, or the wordsmithing of scoots.
I’ll probably have to keep using it, even as disrespectful (and unwanted my many here), as it is.
Rob from SC
The Giants gave up Tim Alderson. I would not have given him up for Sanchez.
Pirates trade 2B Freddy Sanchez to Giants for minor-league pitcher Tim Alderson.
RG: This blog is schizophrenic, not the clubhouse.
It’s also Obsessive Compulsive, when it comes to trades.
July 29th, 20096:58 pm
Sanchez to the Giants for a Minor Leaguer only 1 !!!
The Pirates will never win anything, all the talent in prospects they got will be traded later donw the years anyways… lol
its sad how do you manage a major league team that has less talent than some minor league teams lol
July 29th, 20097:00 pm
Let’s assume that irregardless of the outcomes of the games before the trade deadline and that the Braves have decided that they are contenders… OK, if the Phillies add the two Indian players; the Giants get their two offensive bats (Garko and Sanchez); the Cardinals added DeRosa, Lugo, and Holiday; and maybe the Rockies add some relief pitching….are the roster moves the Braves made earlier in the season still enough? Or were they moves that got them to, but not over the hump, so to speak? If they made a move, would a relief pitcher still be enough?
I bet Frenchy turns out to be a good overall player, bad for us unless we fill that RF viod with a new clean up guy.
DOB, we will see if he keeps it up but maybe a change of scenery is what he needed. Will be interesting to see how he handles adversity in that fishbowl when he struggles. I know he didn’t like the way the Braves treated him by sending him down but that’s childs play compared to the way the Mets run things.
Wayne in Utah
I heard the Rox benched Barmes, due to a 9 for 61 streak. If he were a Brave, he would be neck and neck with Norton for the most despised Brave!
"Chef" Tim Dix
Tavis: The Anderson signing worked out perfectly???
Yeah, if you don’t count the first 65 games.
His defense is painful to watch.
Nova Scotia Steve
How do you find the Boog and Joe Fan page on facebook?
July 29th, 20097:01 pm
holy crap the pirates got tim alderson, what was sabean thinking
Wooden at No. 1 … great choice. But Luc Robitaille to talk about Bowman? They couldn’t have gotten somebody better? Dryden or Lafleur or Shutt?
July 29th, 20097:02 pm
For all the heat Brian Sabean has taken the last few year, the man still can pillage with the best of them. Ryan Garko and Freddy Sanchez for some magic beans and a Costco sized jar of Red Vines. Oh and by the way, he has been in the process of building a young pitching staff that resembles the staff of a team very close to our hearts, back in the day.
giants fans r pissed
Wayne – don’t want to seem too anxious – and some sleep is useful – plus no rush, since she won’t want to leave LA with the Braves coming to town.
I like Joe’s optimism.
July 29th, 20097:03 pm
The Pirates seem to be listening to “The Truth”. We will see how this works out. If i’m a Pittsburgh fan i’m pissed. Might as well just go see the minor league teams instead of the big league pirates. It will be the cheaper way to see all those minor league players.
They’re pretty obsessed with trading Schafer and Medlen…luckily, the only one who can be compulsive is Frank Wren. And if FW gets compulsive with that obsession, I’ll show him disorder!
Pnk, Poing,Blam, those are nails in the Braves season,The coffin is nailed shut barring a trade for a bat, and a decent reliever.
More like railroad spikes at that.
Adding McLouth was a great move, we’ll benifit having him for a full season. I believe we control him for 3 more seasons and a fair price. So great move for now and future. Our Starting Pitching is good enough to win the wild card, but the offense has to step up big time and play great for the rest of the season.
Gawd, Joe Simpson is a cheerleader. I thought he was supposed to be a broadcaster.
July 29th, 20097:05 pm
Shafer, Medlen, and Furstyburgerson, for K. Morales, and Ervin Santana!
July 29th, 20097:06 pm
Brent Shafer,Jordan Lillibridge, umm umm aren’t these two guys one in the same?
Oh, look…Joebrave is back to torment me.
Well, it isn’t going to work, Joebrave. It.isn’t.going.to.work!
Wayne in Utah………I have to totally agree with your defense of Frank Wren’s thinking concerning signing Kawakami in the winter. It’s amazing how easy it is for most people on here to “forget” the debacle that was our starting pitching last year.
The thing that Frank Wren wanted to build in the “first phase” of the rebuilding process is a healthy, durable, innings eating STARTING ROTATION. He did that. He had no way of foreseeing that Tommy Hanson was going to pitch the way he did since he was called up. Young starting pitching usually struggle when they first come up. Hanson and the Phillies A.J. Happ seem to be the exception this year.
However, if you look back and see the rookie years of Greg Maddox, Tom Glavine, and John Smoltz, you’ll see that what they experienced would be the “norm”. Frank Wren had to know this. That is why he also signed Tom Glavine in the winter. Glavine would give the Braves time to groom Hanson in Triple A. However, Glavine couldnt get healthy….plus Hanson accelerated the Braves plans for him when he pitched LIGHTS OUT the first part of the Triple A season.
Bottom line, Frank Wren did the right thing in trading for Kawakami. Besides, starting pitching ISNT the problem. Our offense was the problem in the first half of the season. Now it’s another arm to join Soriano and Gonzalez in the bullpen AND the lack of quality pinch hitting on the bench.
July 29th, 20097:07 pm
July 29th, 2009
holy crap the pirates got tim alderson, what was sabean thinking
That is what I am saying. What a great trade for the Pirates. Alderson get overshadowed by Bumgardner but the kid is really good.
They both have big ears, can’t hit, and are ugly as hell!
July 29th, 20097:08 pm
Paul Lentz, Wren never traded for Kawakami-san, He was signed as a free Agent.
July 29th, 20097:10 pm
Tick Tick Tock Tock, that’s the sound of time running out on ol Shafer Lillibridge!
Ciao bella, folks!
You know what, F the Marlins and F Josh Johnson.
We’re a better team, we have better pitching, we deserved to win last night.
I don’t give a SH* about Johnson. We can win this game. Let’s get some runs and knock this douche out of the game.
rob from sc,
dude i agree sabean got fleeced, if he was going to trade alderson straight up he could have gotten willingham or dunn, or plenty of other better bats than sanchez. dude is a legit pitching pros. and giants fans r seriously pissed on mlbtraderumor comments
The game will be delayed while the Marlins try to find someone to come watch it.
…except you, Joebrave.
July 29th, 20097:11 pm
Will there be a double-header tomorrow for the Rockies and Mets?
Diaz not in the lineup again tonight. Attaboy HOF Manager! Keep ‘em around that .500 mark.
July 29th, 20097:12 pm
LMAO Roman gal
July 29th, 20097:13 pm
Hit and run Braves.
Make something happen.
curtis – ever see Diaz try to hit rightys?
Nope, it ain’t purdy.
July 29th, 20097:14 pm
Maybe Shafer, Johnson, Furstybergerson,and Medlen to milwaukee for Ryan Braun. I doubt that too!
And the runner is still at first.
Are we going to make anything out of it?
July 29th, 20097:15 pm
Do you have access to obscure stats such as how many ground balls McClouth has hit this month? I am glad we have him, but is he really the ideal lead off guy? Seems to hit a wealth of pop ups (granted some of them go 400 feet) He just doesn’t seem to get on base a whole lot.
the hopes of the braves nation rest in your hands mr. hanson
if we are going to make the playoffs this year we are going to have to trade for a big bat. whether we should or we could is the issue…
we need a win tonight! go braves!
July 29th, 20097:16 pm
any idea what that necklace chipper is wearing?
Oh not this guy.
Hohn is going to hand the Marlins a W before the third inning.
God da**, Chipper and Mac are gonna have to carry this lineup if we are going to make a run at postseason.
July 29th, 20097:17 pm
Mitchell, yes on paper the Braves should be considered the better team, but in the field during gametime, well I think there is some intestinal fortitude lacking in the bunch of weak ass hitters!
July 29th, 20097:18 pm
I know we’re scoring runs but why don’t we ever do anything with a runner at first?
That was a wasted opportunity.
July 29th, 20097:19 pm
McLouth does walk often, and has speed. I think he should bat Second or Sixth next season cause he will hit 20-25 homers
Guarantee ya, Ross, and Uggla gets KK more than once.
July 29th, 20097:20 pm
Kawakami is at 100 pitches already??????????
July 29th, 20097:22 pm
We lose a game last night, and go down in the first with no runs, and some of you guys are bitchin about our hitting? Haven’t you guys been paying any attention to what the team has done in the last few weeks?
I think the only way to make some of you guys happy is if all our hitters hit 1.000, and our pitchers sacrificed successfully 100% of the time.
Heck then you’d look for a higher slugging percentage.
Good play by KK, not a gimme either.
3 behind Colorado,2.5 behind StL,and 1 behind 3.5 behind SF, what do these three teams have in common, They’re better than the Braves, and have the guts to make deadline deals.
July 29th, 20097:23 pm
Wayne could it be that these last few weeks, were an aberration?
Eric from MO
July 29th, 20097:24 pm
Wow! Kawakami sucks!
11 pitches in the first inning, what a bum.
July 29th, 20097:25 pm
1-2-3 innings are overrated!
its not the normal phiten necklaces he used to wear
You have to understand that any team we call about a trade is going to ask for Jason Heyward or Tommy Hanson, or both. They are untouchable. I wouldn’t trade Schafer (Roman Gal) but he is hurt anyway. Freeman is not enough because teams would have to settle because of our two studs being unavailable.
It’s not the hitting to me Wayne, but more the inability to move runners via the bunt. Almost EVERY time we do succeed there…..good things seem to happen. When we don’t….well….it seems to “define” the rest of the game.
And Tim Alderson is better than any pitcher we have in the minors right now
good start for KK only 11 pitches.
July 29th, 20097:26 pm
And could it be that the actual Braves showed up last night? And blaming the game on the Umps? I watched the game, yes Soriano was squeezed, but Bobby should’ve called for an intentional in that spot, besides, 3 runs and only 3 scored. I tend to believe these guys had their hot spot, and now are coming back to earth.
See, Joebrave…Rob from SC knows the way to a lady’s heart!
VA Brave Fan -
I wouldn’t say that Nate necessarily walks often. He gets his share, but his elevating style swing almost dictates that he launches the ball rather than scoots it towards a whole whereby he can utilize his speed. He should be hitting 2nd or 6th NOW. Prado might be a better candidate for leadoff, in my opinion. High OBP and some power, too.
July 29th, 20097:27 pm
David O’Brien………….Francoeur’s numbers will not hold up. He still isnt walking. He’s had a combination of some very hittable pitches to hit AND some loopers that dropped in for hits.
For whatever reason, it seems like some of these teams “forgot” how to pitch Francoeur. Notice how he did when we faced him after the All-Star Break?
JoeBrave could it be that we made our moves weeks ago which is why we are becoming better than them. Whats the difference between their moves and ours? Ours doesnt get as much attention from the media and they help us longer.
nova- FOX SPORTS SOUTH, it think or joe and boog…
Rob, I was being facetious, I know Wren is standing pat, and I also know it’s a mistake.
That’s my Loaf!
Gov. Clinton Tyree
Johnson looks unhittable but GA just put a nice swing on one.
ok, how these are the opps that we can’t waste…have to get the run in against a pitcher like johnson after getting a leadoff double…have to…
July 29th, 20097:28 pm
Loaf is on fire!
It is unbelievable to me how many people think Schafer sucks because he couldn’t hit because of a injured wrist. McCann couldn’t hit a few years ago when he injured his hand. Give Schafer some time before giving up on him
Garret is getting close to .300.
It’s a shame that he got off to that slow start. Some of you guys will never forgive him for that.
GA…getting another professtional hit there… up to .298.
beautifully written piece by your friend about his brother, thanks for sharing.
We going to get anything out of this?
Come on Yunel.
Thats one old man on our team that can still hit the fastball.
Are you willing to trade Hanson or Heyward?
Alrighty now, get GA in.
July 29th, 20097:29 pm
Time to shine Kotchy!
great job Esco! got ‘em over, now let’s get ‘em in!
Yep Paul, just because he was hurt, and dont forget he doesnt smile. What an a$$!…note sarcasm
Good Job Yunel move the runner now lets try for the sac fly (oh crap here we go)
Eric, yes but thye moves made were out of necessity, but clearly not enough. without that Clean-up hitter this team can have all the pitching in the world, there is the other side of the game called Offense, and albeit these guys have been on a good run, I don’t think as constructed it will matter.
just a groundball will do
Joebrave…………I know that Wren signed Kawakami as a free agent. It was a typo on my part. I’m not sure why I said “traded for” at the end of that posting.
July 29th, 20097:30 pm
I think I would like to wait to SEE if it is an aberration, instead of just declaring it one day. And what do you want, another Teixiera trade?
Those other team might be better than us, but there comes a time when you have to dance with the one that brung ya. (he says, as a blockbuster trade for Adrian Gonzalez is acquired)
I just don’t want to mortgage our future for a long shot chance at the post season. If I thougth we had a better chance, then I would be more disappointed that we didn’t make a last minute deal.
But, we have made a few VERY positive deals.
We picked up McLouth. Addition by subtraction: Francoeur for Church. We picked up a valuable bench bat in Kelly Johnson. We are close to a deal for two additional arms: Buddy Carlyle and Tim Hudson.
Really, what else do you want?
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