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Paul Lentz
July 29th, 2009
9:44 pm
Assuming that we dont come back tonight……..I think that it will safe to assume that tomorrow’s game is a MUST WIN.
Rob in Fayetteville
July 29th, 2009
9:45 pm
cabravesfan, good call. You could just see it coming…..
JEFF
July 29th, 2009
9:45 pm
well losing 2 so far to the stinkin marlins .. come on .. KK sucks. signing him was a huge gaff by frank wren . I cant wait till Tim Hudson comes back and takes his spot… but i will say this. this is the same umpiring crew from boston. Hahn is awful .. and will say this .. the braves need another bat..
groundfog
July 29th, 2009
9:45 pm
Rob from SC, lol if that was it he is excused
RHR
July 29th, 2009
9:45 pm
And Manny buzzing one at his head on the next pitch lol awesome.
Supes
July 29th, 2009
9:45 pm
I think that pitch at Ross’ head was actually aimed at the Home Plate ump and David Ross just missed the sign and catch it!
Virginia Ranger
July 29th, 2009
9:45 pm
Who is the crew chief? Should he not step in and do something about this bu****it
McFann Ô
July 29th, 2009
9:45 pm
Dang! He’s a jerk! He’s a first class jerk!!
Bruce–
Yep. I knew it was coming, too…BMac’s been in a mood this whole game.
7
July 29th, 2009
9:46 pm
Great Mac…you just took your bat out of the line-up. How about some more players get the boot and hurt the team….
brent a.
July 29th, 2009
9:46 pm
So, everyone likes KK?
Johnny Sac
July 29th, 2009
9:46 pm
Hey Clueless Joe….the reason Bobby Cox gets tossed so often is because he is a cranky, bitter old man who is constantly grousing about the umpiring. I don’t believe there is any kind of conspiracy but you have your head so far up the Braves rear ends, you see all sorts of demons.
Necromancer
July 29th, 2009
9:47 pm
Billy Hohn=Tool
a643dp
July 29th, 2009
9:47 pm
Why dont the braves throw a fast ball and have the catcher act confussed on the pitch and move so the ump gets drilled.
bruce
July 29th, 2009
9:47 pm
the call to the BP should have been O’Flarety (sp… sorry)
PMC
July 29th, 2009
9:47 pm
major league baseball umpires are consistantly the most egotistical in sports while simultaneously being wrong more of the time.
In other careers they care about getting the call right. In baseball… oh it’s part of the game that we suck at our jobs… nice. great call blue.
bravesfanmetsland
July 29th, 2009
9:47 pm
Umm 7… it’s the 8th inning and BMac just batted. he’s not getting up again and you knew he was gonna get tossed there. Come on
Kenny
July 29th, 2009
9:47 pm
High pitch and Ross ‘accidently’ lets it tip his glove and straight into the umpire. Ooops
Jake W.
July 29th, 2009
9:48 pm
N8
Ok, I get you. There should be no debate. Our rotation would be better with Hudson in it over KK. I’m just not buying this BS from others that somehow that combination of rookies would have made us better. Rookies are unpredictable. KK is. He throws a lot of pitches and will probably give you somewhere between 5-7 with 7 being his high, I think he went into the 8th like once. More times than not he will give you a quality start, just not going to give you the innings a Lowe/Vazquez/Jurrjens will give you. At least not until he figures out this strike zone. His problem isn’t that he is getting bombed every outing. If it was that would be a huge problem. Its that he throws to many pitches to get outs. If and when he figures that out he can be much better but right now him and Hudson are not even comparable.
Original Jon
July 29th, 2009
9:48 pm
Hey 7, didnt we trade you to the Mets for 25
Heath
July 29th, 2009
9:48 pm
That would be intersting with no guys on….throw the high heat and have the catcher miss the ball… “WHAM” right in the ump’s mask.
Supes
July 29th, 2009
9:48 pm
BMac should have left his catchers gear at home plate as a sign of protest along with a few choice words about that guy to boot
Wayne in Utah
July 29th, 2009
9:48 pm
I know it would be wrong, but what if Ross called for a high hard one, and just missed it!
Jaglawyer
July 29th, 2009
9:48 pm
DOB: I think even Escobar will give you a pass if you neglect him to find out about the “lineup card mess.”
cabravesfan
July 29th, 2009
9:48 pm
Rob in Fayetteville-
Definitely not hard to call- Mac rarely loses his temper but when he does…
RHR
July 29th, 2009
9:48 pm
7 – you do know the next time the braves bat it will be the 9th inning, right? And that Mac just batted last inning. I’m sure you did, just thought I’d mention it.
Paul Lentz
July 29th, 2009
9:48 pm
Supes………..dude, I didnt say that Tim Hudson should become a reliever for the rest of his career, lol. I said JUST FOR THE REST OF THIS SEASON. Also, it isnt that I prefer Kawakami over Tim Hudson. It’s that I have BIGTIME RESERVATIONS about a pitcher coming back from elbow surgery will be able to go 6-7 innings every time out.
However, if the Braves dont start winning some ballgames, then it will be a moot point.
bruce
July 29th, 2009
9:49 pm
who is the backup catcher now? Matt has already hit… Rossy will really have to gag himself…
John
July 29th, 2009
9:49 pm
Just out of curiosity…so far this year…how many “MUST WIN” games… have we had ??…( Cos’ I know we got a whole bunch more of em’ comin’ )
Hohn Sucks
July 29th, 2009
9:49 pm
I wish McCann had brought a lighter out b/t innings and lit Hohn’s 70’s style stache on fire.
Hohn is a complete joke and unprofessional.
Supes
July 29th, 2009
9:49 pm
Paul Lentz
Every game is a MUST WIN, isn’t it?
Vinings Jim
July 29th, 2009
9:49 pm
Hey, all you people making fun of Billy Hohn, remember it’s no fun to go through life being a MORON (as we have all been taught by our good friend)!
Lou Vales
July 29th, 2009
9:49 pm
You know I like the Marlins, BUT if I’m there–Enough is Enough!! i’d be sticking up for Cox like crazy. That FAT SLOB Triple Chin Joe West almost ejected me one year when I discussed his singing and his chins, AND this was worse. If you’re a Braves fan move down close–plenty of room–and give it to Hohn good.
bruce
July 29th, 2009
9:50 pm
Wayne, I did that once in highschool… my coach got really upset
Supes
July 29th, 2009
9:50 pm
However, if the Braves dont start winning some ballgames, then it will be a moot point.
**********
I think the entire blog agrees with you on that one.
Hell just FROZE over
The A Bomb
July 29th, 2009
9:50 pm
Hey DOB — do you remember that game in Atlanta many years ago when Hohn went nuts kicking out people?
All I remember is him umping the game with a wet towel around his neck. But on the day – it was a day game — he wanted to be the show — just like tonight. Don’t remember anything else but it was a horrible job of umping.
Jaglawyer
July 29th, 2009
9:50 pm
All the talk of “beaning” the ump . . . that was a well documented story in a Georgia high school game . . . players/coaches got suspended this season if I recall . . . catcher intentionally missed a pitch
Original Jon
July 29th, 2009
9:50 pm
Who wants to bet on a 1-2-3 inning?
cabravesfan
July 29th, 2009
9:51 pm
VJ-
you raise a good point…
RHR
July 29th, 2009
9:51 pm
So you have BIG TIME RESERVATIONS about a guy coming back after surgery but not about a guy who can’t get thru 4 innings? Hmm.
Bill Hohns Wife
July 29th, 2009
9:52 pm
Hey my sweetie Bill left his glasses at home please have him call asap he tends to run into things without them.
Robert
July 29th, 2009
9:52 pm
I swear one of these days when an ump ejects Cox, some opposing manager is gonna come out of his dugout and plead “no, no, dont throw him out” – You KNOW they’re thinking it
Robert
July 29th, 2009
9:52 pm
I swear one of these days when an ump ejects Cox, some opposing manager is gonna come out of his dugout and plead “no, no, dont throw him out” – You KNOW they’re thinking it
ChurchMan
July 29th, 2009
9:52 pm
Ross needs to setup inside (but not enough where the ball will hit the batter) tell Logan to throw it there and then move waaaay outside as soon as the pitch is thrown
With any luck the Ump drops and Logan and Ross claim they got crossed up
Heath
July 29th, 2009
9:53 pm
Ross could make a weird-looking stab at it. Say he and the pitcher got crossed up.
curtis jones
July 29th, 2009
9:53 pm
Hohn and Cox do indeed have a long history. It goes back more than 10 years. Whoever “evaluates” the umpires (Bob Watson, Bruce Froemming and others) are not doing their job, as long as Hohn draws a paycheck.
PMC
July 29th, 2009
9:54 pm
Hmm, why are only boundary calls reviewed? Why don’t they show replays of Umpire calls in the stadium? Why can’t you argue balls and strikes?
Because they know just how wrong they are and how often… that’s why.
bruce
July 29th, 2009
9:54 pm
McFann —
is that Brian’s first ejection? if so then it could be a team fire-up
RHR
July 29th, 2009
9:54 pm
Ross needs to setup inside (but not enough where the ball will hit the batter) tell Logan to throw it there and then move waaaay outside as soon as the pitch is thrown
With any luck the Ump drops and Logan and Ross claim they got crossed up
Or…..MFIKY could just have a word with him.
7
July 29th, 2009
9:54 pm
Wrong 7 but I’m glad the other & is gone.
What if Braves score 3 runs and play 3 or 4 more inning…?
The A Bomb
July 29th, 2009
9:54 pm
All we need is Angel Hernandez for the L.A. series to make this week complete.
Marc from FL
July 29th, 2009
9:55 pm
Ok, 2 outs, right where we want them, load them bases and let’s slam these puppies!
ChurchMan
July 29th, 2009
9:55 pm
well the braves sweep philly and get closer in the division and then after that they go downhill. Seems right that they get close in the WC race and do the same thing thanks to the Marlins (with some help from a short ump and an ump with an ego)
Dumbfound
July 29th, 2009
9:55 pm
Isn’t that umpire that callled game six of the division series the Braves against the Marlins Eric Greg dead ?! I’m just saying Hohn !!
Robert
July 29th, 2009
9:55 pm
“And don’t blame that ejection on Bobby. He didn’t do jack wrong”
The hell he didnt. He bitched about an umps’ cal, and that’s wrong. What the ump says goes. That’s the way the game is played. Anyone trying to dispute that is disrupting play and merits being tossed
It’s great actually. Gives us a fighting chance
7
July 29th, 2009
9:55 pm
&=7 sorrrrrrry
curtis jones
July 29th, 2009
9:56 pm
So Kawakami makes $ 8 million a year, and bought Bow Wow’s Atlanta mansion? “Life ain’t fair” is a huge understatement.
Vinings Jim
July 29th, 2009
9:56 pm
Why isn’t KJ playing?
Rob from SC
July 29th, 2009
9:56 pm
must admit that KJ looks good
Virginia Ranger
July 29th, 2009
9:56 pm
Old Kj playing some ball
Marc from FL
July 29th, 2009
9:57 pm
Told ya! Now Mclouth will walk, infield single by Prado, and Chipper SLAAAMMMMM
The_Superhoo
July 29th, 2009
9:57 pm
So. WHY did we PH Norton last night?
bruce
July 29th, 2009
9:57 pm
KJ
kelevra
July 29th, 2009
9:57 pm
heyward rbi single
Rob from SC
July 29th, 2009
9:57 pm
Heyward RBI single (.451)
Wayne in Utah
July 29th, 2009
9:57 pm
What is he now, 5 for 6 since coming back??
Robert
July 29th, 2009
9:57 pm
“maybe Hohn was making fun of Cox for PH Norton”
THAT was funny
Jake W.
July 29th, 2009
9:57 pm
Gotta love the fact that you can hear every word the Marlins fans say. Nice to see the Braves not giving up. Would not have seen this last year. Game would have been over when Johnson hit that bomb.
McFann Ô
July 29th, 2009
9:57 pm
How fitting that Hohn looks like Major Hochstetter from Hogan’s Heroes…
“WHAT IS THIS MAN DOING HERE?!?”
Bruce–
That’s the third ejection of BMac’s career–first since June 23, 2007. Hope it fires them up…
cabravesfan Mac rarely loses his temper but when he does…
That’s for sure.
Vinings Jim
July 29th, 2009
9:57 pm
Robert – you are too stupid for words
PWHjort
July 29th, 2009
9:57 pm
KJ didn’t hit a homer. Trade him.
RHR
July 29th, 2009
9:58 pm
http://www.imeem.com/acast77/music/s_ChxSbi/the-price-is-right-losing-horn/
Marc from FL
July 29th, 2009
9:58 pm
I meant to say McLouth will strike out and end the game… Welp, at least it was an eventful loss, cya later folks!
Ashley
July 29th, 2009
9:58 pm
Here’s an article about the Ump and bad calls. I found it on the net.
Here we go again. What is it about umpiring crews that include Bill Hahn?
Tonight the fault was not Hahn’s. The blame for the loss on Tuesday night can be placed squarely on Jerry Meals short stature frame.
He squeezed Jair Jurrjens all night long, while giving Ricky Nolasco the benefit of the doubt.
Unfortunately that did not stop when Rafael Soriano took the mound in the bottom of the ninth with a one-run lead. Soriano was squeezed on two of the five pitches he used to walk Cody Ross.
After Ross was sacrificed to second, pinch hitter Ross Gload came to the plate. Soriano threw a first pitch strike right down the middle, which was called a ball. Three pitches later, the game was over and the Braves had lost a tough one.
Hahn’s crew was involved in another game the Braves lost on a walk off HR. At Fenway Park in June, Chipper Jones, Eric O’ Flaherty, and Bobby Cox were all thrown out of the game by Hahn on the same play for arguing balls and strikes.
Needless to say, this is getting old.
Of course the Braves had their chances against the Marlins all night long. The inexplicably employed, Greg Norton did his best Mario Mendoza impression yet again. This time he hit into a double play rather than swinging late on an 85 mph “heater.”
Norton is hitting .120 a week after being retained in Atlanta while the Braves sent down the scorching-hot Brook Conrad. Conrad was hitting .344 with two home runs and eight RBI, two triples and two doubles in the 14 games he spent with Atlanta. Most of which came while Norton was on the disabled list.
But I didn’t write this to badmouth the Braves. It’s one loss, albeit a rough one, but still just one loss. It wont get any easier tomorrow night when the Braves face Josh Johnson. Kenshin “Cant find the strike zone” Kawakami will pitch for Atlanta.
The Braves simply cannot afford a losing streak right now. The Marlins and Phillies are hot right now, and any slide in the Wild Card standings will have the Braves looking up at the Giants, Cardinals, Rockies, Astros, and these Marlins.
The Braves do need to address the bullpen at the deadline. Nothing huge, just an extra arm. And for goodness sake it’s time to designate Norton for assignment.
The_Superhoo
July 29th, 2009
9:58 pm
Well McLouth = fail
Two fast balls down the middle? Swing dammit.
PWHjort
July 29th, 2009
9:59 pm
Heyward RBI single (.451)
Not to be picky, but he had a sac fly earlier in the game and his single was of the non-RBI variety.
PWHjort
July 29th, 2009
9:59 pm
OK, nevermind. I’m an idiot. You’re right.
Bobby's Cox
July 29th, 2009
9:59 pm
DOB,
If the Braves aren’t happy with the umpiring, can they file a complaint with the league? We’ve had a bad string of calls in this series, and like you posted yesterday, it’s the same crew that was in Boston. Just seems like the crew has it out for Bobby….the showboating, the close calls at 1st going against us, with the horrible strike zone last night and in Boston. Is there something they can do to at least get the league attention? I know the umps are unionized, but the league does take note of this BS right?
Interested Observer
July 29th, 2009
9:59 pm
Jaglawyer: There’s a big difference between high school and the major leagues. In the majors there are things called unions. The same force that allows Bill Hohn to be incompetent and keep his job will make sure that no player gets suspended for “an accident”
Robert
July 29th, 2009
9:59 pm
I love the idea about setting up a play to drill the ump. I mean , heck, that would certainly win other umpires over to the Braves’ way of looking at things.
Wayne in Utah
July 29th, 2009
9:59 pm
Robert
So every time Bobby or one of his players gets ticked about poor umpiring, they are supposed to just lay over and accept it???
Don’t think so Tim.
BravesFanChris24
July 29th, 2009
9:59 pm
Standing pat should not be an option. I’m not saying give the farm up, but standing pat would not be the best.
a643dp
July 29th, 2009
9:59 pm
Hohn sucks,
Instead of a disco demolition night we should have a mustache demolition night and bring all action figures and stuffed animals with 70s porn staches and blow them up in center field the next time Bill hohn umps at The Ted. I personally will bring my Lando Calrissian action figure and my Rollie Fingers bobble head.
Jack
July 29th, 2009
10:00 pm
What the H@#$ was McLouth doing? Two right down the middle and he kept the bat on his shoulder. Seems like the object of the game is to hit the ball, and you can’t do that with the bat on your shoulder.
brent a.
July 29th, 2009
10:00 pm
Kelly Johnson probably shoulda started this game
curtis jones
July 29th, 2009
10:00 pm
By the way, here’s my public apology. On an earlier blog I said Hohn would toss Cox by the 6th inning tonight. I missed it by a couple innings.
I will now predict MLB will do nothing about this, and the porn-mustache guy will ump till he’s 70. It’s called rewarding incompetence.
Dumbfound
July 29th, 2009
10:00 pm
What was Chipper staring at ?! If looks could kill !! Wren needs to go to Liberty get down on his hands and knees and beg them to make one more trade !! Tell them they will make their money back by ticket sales !!!
Rob from SC
July 29th, 2009
10:00 pm
Heyward has both RBI’s, not to be picky
RHR
July 29th, 2009
10:00 pm
Dbacks up 2-0 on the Phillies already. Gonna be a tough night for the Phils, I predict they’ll only win this one by a touchdown and a field goal.
Hedley Lamarr
July 29th, 2009
10:00 pm
Robert,
How old are you? Did Bobby Cox steal your girlfriend at some point during your inadequate life? Wait, I’m not making too big of an assumption in your liking of women, am I?
Loaf on his blackberry walking to locker room
July 29th, 2009
10:01 pm
curtis jones: Cause I’m sure you deserve that house?
Supes
July 29th, 2009
10:01 pm
Well, win tomorrow and you go 3-3 on the road trip. Not great but serviceable for right now. Play .500 on the road and win every series at home, WC still in the picture.
I just want this team to play meaningful games at home in september!
ChurchMan
July 29th, 2009
10:01 pm
ump problems aside the braves still have things to work on, this game shows that:
2nd inning: GA lead off double, stranded
5th inning: two on, 1 out, 1 in. Prado dp ends inning
8th inning: chipper walks, mac hits into a dp, GA doubles and is stranded
TnBrian
July 29th, 2009
10:02 pm
I don’t think Chipper cared for that skinny little twurp Nunez’ antics. Anybody else catch that?
Boog, wasn’t as much “too much Josh Johnson” as it was just too much Kaka-poo-poo.
Robert
July 29th, 2009
10:02 pm
“So every time Bobby or one of his players gets ticked about poor umpiring, they are supposed to just lay over and accept it??? ”
Wayne – tell me this – how many times have you seen an ump, when he gets bitched at, decide that oh yeah I guess old boy manager (whichever one it is ) is right, I’ll just go ahead and change my call . My bad
That said, there are discrete and professional ways to show your displeasure with umpiring that are more effective than throwing a hee-hawing donkey sized tantrum in the middle of the field. I guarantee you every time Cox does his tirade, whatever ump he is screaming at is thinking “let’s get this idiot out of here”
JEFF
July 29th, 2009
10:02 pm
well leave it up to the lowest payroll baseball team to beat the braves and win this series already and fall 2 games further back in both the wild card and division. . 51-50 as predicted .. kawakami sucks .. and gave a 3 run bomb to the pitcher.. come on thats shameful and inexcusable.. all the momentum is now gone folks.
Supes
July 29th, 2009
10:03 pm
This just in….home plate ump is STILL a jacka&&
o-me
July 29th, 2009
10:03 pm
Vinings Jim who the s— are you to call someone stupid, Obama.
Steve from OH
July 29th, 2009
10:03 pm
That said, there are discrete and professional ways to show your displeasure with umpiring that are more effective than throwing a hee-hawing donkey sized tantrum in the middle of the field.
Like stopping the game and going over to the dugout to pick a fight? Oh wait, that was Hohn, not Cox, nevermind…
John
July 29th, 2009
10:03 pm
TnBrian
Yep…Dude was kinda actin’ up out there…not sure why….
RHR
July 29th, 2009
10:04 pm
Coach won’t be able to resist commenting on this one.