Supes, not many other pitchers making 8mil a year are pitching better than KK this year, if you want to look at it that way. Sorry guys, but your claims have no merritt, KK has, with the exception of a bad first month (forgivable for a foreign pitcher) and tonight’s blow up, has pitched pretty well for us. Not going deep into games would be more of a big deal if we had last year’s rotation of 5 guys that can’t get past the 5th, but that is not the case.
Anyway, I broke it down above, everyone year we lose a pitcher’s salary and gain money to sign or lock up players. It’s part of a plan to make us contenders while developing at the same time. KK may be like Dice-K and put up amazing numbers next year, and Heyward may be spelling Church.
How do you say ” You Suck” in Japanese? It is unacceptable to give up a HR to the opposing pitcher, let alone a 3 run jack.. That is all the difference in this game.. Kawacrappy needs to go to the BP once Hudson returns..
Doc Holiday………that Philly loss in the 3rd game of the season was a brutal loss, considering we were up by 7 runs. Also, that Pittsburgh game that we won in 15 innings taxed our bullpen as well.
“Yea, BC getting thrown out, bitching about balls and strikes gets old . You don’t see other mgrs showing their ass for nothing. The ump never forgets that crap”
And ya wonder why it seems that so often our pitchers get squeezed by the umps in tight situations.
Cox’s huffing and puffing about balls and strikes is so wonderfully productive and such an example of great managing
Apart from being a complete jackass, he shouldn’t be allowed to umpire a Braves game again.
McCann isn’t Barry Bonds, Ryan Howard, or Jim Thome (around his prime). If they’re going to play the shift, but the ball up the 3rd base line and bring the tying run to the plate.
His two should have been double-plays cost the Braves several runs this game.
“So we should have relied on Jojo Reyes/Charlie Morton/Kris Medlin.”Jake W.
That’s not what I’m saying at all. Paul Lentz asked the question if we thought that the Braves would have a better record had Hudson been in the rotation instead of KK. I was saying YES.
It was all hypothetical. Of all the guys we had, KK was the better option. But Paul continues to think the team will be better off with Hudson in the pen.
This home plate umpire is terrible, the league needs to look into his behavior. First Boston and now tonight. There’s something going on that’s not right…….or he’s just a jerk.
Anderson’s on fire. If it wasn’t for that shift on Mac today we’d probably have some more runs. I knew he probably would have tried to bunt if Johnson wasn’t on that mound throwin gas. He’ll get em tomorrow.
Jim Powell just said that no one in the stands came to watch the umpire, and he’s exactly right. He also said it was perhaps the most unprofessional act he’s ever seen from an umpire. Guys like this need to be disciplined by MLB, and it needs to be made public rather than keeping the punishment in-house. It just seems the guy’s looking for a fight.
WARNING: This is a legitimate baseball post. If what you read is crazy, then totally disregard and go to bed.
If things keep going the way they’ve gone the past couple games, we’re on a death march.
I don’t care how much KK’s being paid, I’d put Medlin in his spot. Medlin has better quality stuff. I think he’d win more games than KK if given a legit shot.
Home plate ump is a PRICK with a serious vendetta against the Braves.
I wouldn’t be surprised if B-Mac gets tossed next inning.
Good night for Loaf, continues to rake. Is he at .300 yet?
Paul Lentz,
you can average innings all you want, I’ve seen HUDSON go to the 7th and 8th inning in games a lot more than I have KK. I also seriously doubt that next year and the year after KK will turn into a pitcher who is capable of going more than 5 innings. Dude is all around the dish and lack command of his pitches. What about that is so appealing to you about this guy who is costing us 8 million per year?
I can understand that you don’t want to air your dirty laundry in public. I have heard that they are graded by the league, but the best thing they could do is to suspend one or two of these exhibitionists, to make an example to the others.
Shamus… Medlen was getting lit up much worse than KK as a starter, so the logic there is…
Don’t get me wrong, I like Medlen and think he’ll likely be a starter for us in 2011 (from Javy walking at the end of 2010). But he seems to have issues with his nerves. A couple years in the bigs and he’ll get that under control though. Could get a start job sooner if we have injuries next year.
Hohn, who must think he’s an Old West outlaw, has always tried to be the show. . . Remember a game in the 90s (pre-Dodge City days) when it must’ve been 95 degrees in Atlanta and he threw out a bunch of guys.
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Rob from SC
July 29th, 2009
9:31 pm
McCann was right to be pissed
Vinings Jim
July 29th, 2009
9:31 pm
Heath – maybe you should read “My Big Fat Greek Fat Wedding”
Tomahawkin
July 29th, 2009
9:32 pm
Conspiracy Theory Again Against Bobby Cox and His Players!
Another F’d Up Call!
Marc from FL
July 29th, 2009
9:32 pm
Supes, not many other pitchers making 8mil a year are pitching better than KK this year, if you want to look at it that way. Sorry guys, but your claims have no merritt, KK has, with the exception of a bad first month (forgivable for a foreign pitcher) and tonight’s blow up, has pitched pretty well for us. Not going deep into games would be more of a big deal if we had last year’s rotation of 5 guys that can’t get past the 5th, but that is not the case.
Anyway, I broke it down above, everyone year we lose a pitcher’s salary and gain money to sign or lock up players. It’s part of a plan to make us contenders while developing at the same time. KK may be like Dice-K and put up amazing numbers next year, and Heyward may be spelling Church.
BravesfaninWis
July 29th, 2009
9:32 pm
How do you say ” You Suck” in Japanese? It is unacceptable to give up a HR to the opposing pitcher, let alone a 3 run jack.. That is all the difference in this game.. Kawacrappy needs to go to the BP once Hudson returns..
John
July 29th, 2009
9:32 pm
OK…maybe not…
RHR
July 29th, 2009
9:32 pm
I know that ploy. Jeff Francoeur did it.
Well did it work? Did you give Jeff what he wanted?
*runs*
Wayne in Utah
July 29th, 2009
9:32 pm
Superhoo
KK hasn’t been bad as a 5th starter, since Hanson arrived.
ChurchMan
July 29th, 2009
9:32 pm
meh
RHR
July 29th, 2009
9:32 pm
Um McFann? Can’t you do something about this?
Jake W.
July 29th, 2009
9:32 pm
You know what Supes, you’ve got it all figured out. I’ts a wonder the Braves haven’t hired you.
Paul Lentz
July 29th, 2009
9:32 pm
Doc Holiday………that Philly loss in the 3rd game of the season was a brutal loss, considering we were up by 7 runs. Also, that Pittsburgh game that we won in 15 innings taxed our bullpen as well.
Brian McCann is having a rough night.
Heath
July 29th, 2009
9:33 pm
That…really hurt.
Vinings Jim
July 29th, 2009
9:33 pm
Heath – one fat too many (too many martinis)
Rob from SC
July 29th, 2009
9:33 pm
this ump is a bitch
bruce
July 29th, 2009
9:33 pm
Fine the ump… for showboating
the hopes of the braves nation rest in your hands mr. hanson
July 29th, 2009
9:33 pm
there is no denying it….
Mcann is a choke artist. dude is the anti-clutch.
Robert
July 29th, 2009
9:33 pm
“Yea, BC getting thrown out, bitching about balls and strikes gets old . You don’t see other mgrs showing their ass for nothing. The ump never forgets that crap”
And ya wonder why it seems that so often our pitchers get squeezed by the umps in tight situations.
Cox’s huffing and puffing about balls and strikes is so wonderfully productive and such an example of great managing
RHR
July 29th, 2009
9:33 pm
You tell him, Bobby.
Original Jon
July 29th, 2009
9:33 pm
Wow, if it wasnt before, it is now. BALLGAME!!
Loaf on his blackberry standing in batters box
July 29th, 2009
9:34 pm
Not this Ump again.
cabravesfan
July 29th, 2009
9:34 pm
VJ-
That’s a lot of fat…maybe you should check with Heath for future reading material
RHR
July 29th, 2009
9:34 pm
Chipper, go make fun of his porn-stache. You ain’t getting another ab anyway.
RHR
July 29th, 2009
9:34 pm
What an ass that guy is.
BravesFanChris24
July 29th, 2009
9:34 pm
Maybe this will be a spark ~_~
David O'Brien
July 29th, 2009
9:34 pm
Second time he’s thrown out Bobby this season.
McFann Ô
July 29th, 2009
9:35 pm
Bruce–
The ball got passed him a little and the guy tried for second and BMac threw him out. I will never understand why that play isn’t a CS.
RHR–
I wish I could…I don’t know what the deal is.
The ump is so obnoxious, BTW.
groundfog
July 29th, 2009
9:35 pm
This umpire is a true pos
7
July 29th, 2009
9:35 pm
Great show Bobby, now get the he!! out. u know better.
Loaf on his blackberry standing in batters box
July 29th, 2009
9:35 pm
That is the same guy that tossed Chipper, Bobby, and Eric. I’m about to say something smart to him.
UGAFan
July 29th, 2009
9:35 pm
whats up with him?
The_Superhoo
July 29th, 2009
9:35 pm
What the hell just happened??? What a dbag
PWHjort
July 29th, 2009
9:35 pm
Gah. Rohrbough gets roughed up again.
ChurchMan
July 29th, 2009
9:35 pm
when do we deserve to get a come from behind win?
Wayne in Utah
July 29th, 2009
9:36 pm
Why is this umpire being so darned confrontational? They are supposed to be above that crap.
DOB
What recourse do teams have against these idiots? Can’t the league review this crap?
It sure seems like the quality of the umpiring crews has dropped this year. I suspect it is true for both dugouts.
cabravesfan
July 29th, 2009
9:36 pm
Odds on Mac getting tossed in the next inning?
RHR
July 29th, 2009
9:36 pm
DOB – See if you can find out why ump had the lineup out during that discussion with Bobby?
The A Bomb
July 29th, 2009
9:36 pm
Called the ejection last night.
Jake W.
July 29th, 2009
9:36 pm
That ump has some issues.
RHR
July 29th, 2009
9:37 pm
Loaf with a perfect night.
Rob from SC
July 29th, 2009
9:37 pm
McCann killing us with his DP’s
Marc from FL
July 29th, 2009
9:37 pm
Lol at Load carrying our offense right now, who say this coming two months ago?
Mike J
July 29th, 2009
9:37 pm
That was just a ploy for the ump to show off. What a beatch!
TBrown
July 29th, 2009
9:37 pm
Apart from being a complete jackass, he shouldn’t be allowed to umpire a Braves game again.
McCann isn’t Barry Bonds, Ryan Howard, or Jim Thome (around his prime). If they’re going to play the shift, but the ball up the 3rd base line and bring the tying run to the plate.
His two should have been double-plays cost the Braves several runs this game.
PWHjort
July 29th, 2009
9:37 pm
What went on there? Very confusing series of events.
Loaf on his blackberry standing on second
July 29th, 2009
9:37 pm
Nobody can stop me. I’m too much of a professional.
Steve from OH
July 29th, 2009
9:37 pm
PWH–it was Thompson that got lit up like a Christmas tree tonight.
What was Hohn doing there? Lordy…
Tomahawkin
July 29th, 2009
9:37 pm
If Only we can get these doubles with runners on, and not after DP’s
Heath
July 29th, 2009
9:37 pm
over .300 now.
N8
July 29th, 2009
9:37 pm
“So we should have relied on Jojo Reyes/Charlie Morton/Kris Medlin.” Jake W.
That’s not what I’m saying at all. Paul Lentz asked the question if we thought that the Braves would have a better record had Hudson been in the rotation instead of KK. I was saying YES.
It was all hypothetical. Of all the guys we had, KK was the better option. But Paul continues to think the team will be better off with Hudson in the pen.
I don’t.
bruce
July 29th, 2009
9:37 pm
What is GA’s BA on Fastballs? He is clobbering
Marc from FL
July 29th, 2009
9:37 pm
And I can’t spell right now cause I’m on my wife’s laptop and the keys are tiny :/
Original Jon
July 29th, 2009
9:37 pm
Great, just great, a double after the double play. Just great.
ChurchMan
July 29th, 2009
9:38 pm
What recourse do teams have against these idiots? Can’t the league review this crap?
–
they do … or so I hear every so often. But for some reason they protect the Umps to much and you never hear anything about it
Heath
July 29th, 2009
9:38 pm
Need Esco to break out of his funk too. Just concentrate on a single baby.
brent a.
July 29th, 2009
9:38 pm
wasn’t Bobby’s ejection by Hohn pretty much projected on this blog last night?
Doc Holiday
July 29th, 2009
9:38 pm
Fish announcers are just in love with GA………..I think they are mastur%$·%· in the booth about his sweet swing
John
July 29th, 2009
9:38 pm
Wish McCann had just.. TRIED… to bunt the ball…..at least once
Paul Lentz
July 29th, 2009
9:38 pm
Meanwhile, Garret is now batting .302 after going 3 for 4 with a homer, and 2 doubles so far tonight.
Kenny
July 29th, 2009
9:38 pm
This home plate umpire is terrible, the league needs to look into his behavior. First Boston and now tonight. There’s something going on that’s not right…….or he’s just a jerk.
Jake W.
July 29th, 2009
9:39 pm
Anderson’s on fire. If it wasn’t for that shift on Mac today we’d probably have some more runs. I knew he probably would have tried to bunt if Johnson wasn’t on that mound throwin gas. He’ll get em tomorrow.
Doc Holiday
July 29th, 2009
9:39 pm
John,
Good call
Rob in Fayetteville
July 29th, 2009
9:39 pm
Jim Powell just said that no one in the stands came to watch the umpire, and he’s exactly right. He also said it was perhaps the most unprofessional act he’s ever seen from an umpire. Guys like this need to be disciplined by MLB, and it needs to be made public rather than keeping the punishment in-house. It just seems the guy’s looking for a fight.
The_Superhoo
July 29th, 2009
9:39 pm
The A Bomb,
Yep you called it last night.
And don’t blame that ejection on Bobby. He didn’t do jack wrong.
brent a.
July 29th, 2009
9:39 pm
i’m looking for escobar to single and for snitker to give GA the stop sign
VolBrave
July 29th, 2009
9:40 pm
Yunel needs to be careful here…I can see him saying something after a bad call and getting tossed…
maybe this will fire up that bench
Shamus Thacker
July 29th, 2009
9:40 pm
WARNING: This is a legitimate baseball post. If what you read is crazy, then totally disregard and go to bed.
If things keep going the way they’ve gone the past couple games, we’re on a death march.
I don’t care how much KK’s being paid, I’d put Medlin in his spot. Medlin has better quality stuff. I think he’d win more games than KK if given a legit shot.
Daybed Wagmoe
July 29th, 2009
9:40 pm
WHAT is this ump’s deal?
PWHjort
July 29th, 2009
9:40 pm
Steve,
Excuse me, Rohrbough got roughed up last night. But Kimbrel struck out 5 batters in 2.0 IP.
Supes
July 29th, 2009
9:40 pm
Home plate ump is a PRICK with a serious vendetta against the Braves.
I wouldn’t be surprised if B-Mac gets tossed next inning.
Good night for Loaf, continues to rake. Is he at .300 yet?
Paul Lentz,
you can average innings all you want, I’ve seen HUDSON go to the 7th and 8th inning in games a lot more than I have KK. I also seriously doubt that next year and the year after KK will turn into a pitcher who is capable of going more than 5 innings. Dude is all around the dish and lack command of his pitches. What about that is so appealing to you about this guy who is costing us 8 million per year?
brent a.
July 29th, 2009
9:40 pm
any chance LOAF gets traded next month?
ChurchMan
July 29th, 2009
9:40 pm
well that was easy
Necromancer
July 29th, 2009
9:41 pm
Billy Hohn looks like a relic from the 70’s with that porn star mustache.
The_Superhoo
July 29th, 2009
9:41 pm
Alright DOB, your job is to find out what the lineup card thing was.
Frankie Wren
July 29th, 2009
9:41 pm
Maybe time to move Loaf up to cleanup spot? McCann is a great hitter but not your prototype cleanup hitter. Can’t hurt.
PWHjort
July 29th, 2009
9:41 pm
Shamus Thacker,
What’s a “Medlin”. (I know, I’m being picky.)
JasonInFL
July 29th, 2009
9:41 pm
sell, sell, sell…
sorry, couldn’t resist.
Original Jon
July 29th, 2009
9:41 pm
Its as if they have no desire to even try and win this game. First pitch swinging again
Heath
July 29th, 2009
9:41 pm
New pitcher….first pitch swinging. Not good baseball.
Wayne in Utah
July 29th, 2009
9:42 pm
ChurchMan
I can understand that you don’t want to air your dirty laundry in public. I have heard that they are graded by the league, but the best thing they could do is to suspend one or two of these exhibitionists, to make an example to the others.
MurphyRules
July 29th, 2009
9:42 pm
Third out at third? I learned not to do that when I was 11.
McFann Ô
July 29th, 2009
9:43 pm
Rob from SC–
That was “only” his 10th of the season.
The umpire is a first class JERKISH NUTBAG!!! WTFreakin’ heck was with the lineup card bit?
BMac is steaming in the dugout, too…almost surprised he didn’t get tossed.
Rob from SC
July 29th, 2009
9:43 pm
Good for McCann
jukeandjive
July 29th, 2009
9:43 pm
Go Mac!!!
Marc from FL
July 29th, 2009
9:43 pm
Shamus… Medlen was getting lit up much worse than KK as a starter, so the logic there is…
Don’t get me wrong, I like Medlen and think he’ll likely be a starter for us in 2011 (from Javy walking at the end of 2010). But he seems to have issues with his nerves. A couple years in the bigs and he’ll get that under control though. Could get a start job sooner if we have injuries next year.
cabravesfan
July 29th, 2009
9:43 pm
Hey looks like I was right! Mac got run between innings…
UGAFan
July 29th, 2009
9:43 pm
Mac got tossed?
I think the commissioner’s office needs to do something about this.
Tomahawkin
July 29th, 2009
9:43 pm
I had a Feeling B-Macc Would Get Bozo’d!
RHR
July 29th, 2009
9:43 pm
Mac thrown out between innings. lol I love it. I hope he gave him an earful.
The A Bomb
July 29th, 2009
9:43 pm
Hohn, who must think he’s an Old West outlaw, has always tried to be the show. . . Remember a game in the 90s (pre-Dodge City days) when it must’ve been 95 degrees in Atlanta and he threw out a bunch of guys.
A short-tempered, mistake-prone aribiter.
And as I say this, there goes Mac.
Hohn, you need a LONG vacation.
The_Superhoo
July 29th, 2009
9:43 pm
Bean the freaking UMP!!!
Rob in Fayetteville
July 29th, 2009
9:43 pm
Wayne In Utah, I agree wholeheartedly. And McCann just got booted. I only wish the umpire was next. What a creep.
Virginia Ranger
July 29th, 2009
9:43 pm
Bingo on Bmac
McFann Ô
July 29th, 2009
9:44 pm
And right on cue…
Interested Observer
July 29th, 2009
9:44 pm
This is one of those games where the catcher calls a pitch out and doesn’t tell the pitcher.
Rob from SC
July 29th, 2009
9:44 pm
maybe Hohn was making fun of Cox for PH Norton
Doc Holiday
July 29th, 2009
9:44 pm
Kenny,
Problem is that smart axx cox has lost all credibility while arguing…….he and his tossed out record is not a good thing, it works against us.
bruce
July 29th, 2009
9:44 pm
brian had to do that to protect his pitcher… first class act by him to sacrifice that way.
groundfog
July 29th, 2009
9:44 pm
F u Hohn. I’m going to buy the expensive seats and bust your #ss next time you are in Atanta-the first time i’ve wanted to go to a game in a while.
Shamus Thacker
July 29th, 2009
9:44 pm
Jet-Loaf