1:53 pm July 28, 2009, by David O'Brien
July 28th, 20094:11 pm
Can’t wait to get to the stadium tonight!
Hoping the Bravos can pull out this one, cus I’m not liking the KK vs. Johnson matchup, even though KK has pitched extremely well when facing elite pitchers.
If we win today we got a good shot at winning the series with Javy going against Rick “the Incredible” VandenHurk…
July 28th, 20094:12 pm
i love how we are wasting Kelly Johnson’s hot streak by letting him rot on the bench.
I thought it was kinda cool that the whole thing was a link and it had a smiley face in the middle. I wondered how you did that.
HeywardTheFuture, where do you propose we play Kelly?
July 28th, 20094:13 pm
How dumb to build a stadium in Miami and not put a dome on it. Think people, think. Of course that was waaaaay back in the day so apparantly minds have sharpened since then. Oh, how dumb of me, it was intended for playing football and real men play in rain…whatever. This fu***!! game had better not get postponed, damnit!
Wayne in Utah
Somebody mentioned the president’s jeans at the AllStar game. Did you folks see those??? Was he expecting heavy rain or what???
Just thought that was funny as heck…..and his wife dresses to the 9’s. She’s probably giving him a ration of crap about those jeans, huh!
Who else will never forgive Hudson for the way he punked Dave for just doing his job. I wish Dave would have resembled a 1980’s Steven Seagal and knocked him out.
If the Marlins kept more of their players maybe more fans would show up. The majority of my family are huge Marlins fans but they won’t ever to pay to go to a game. They would rather watch on tv. Especially if the team is good, they know during the offseason they will dump all the players. Its hard to pull for a team who just continually wants the lowest payroll.
Eric from MO
dmack that will probaly depend on how Hudson pitches when he comes back.
Original Jon and Grouch, I probablly get laid more than both of you. Maybe being married has something to do with that. Who cares!!!. And the Prez does have noodle arm and I’m getting tired of seeing him on ESPN. Act presidential.
July 28th, 20094:14 pm
i love how we are wasting Kelly Johnson’s hot streak by letting him rot on the bench. – HeywardTheFuture
The guy has one good game and now he’s on a hot streak? LOL.
I would not give up Heyward and Hanson. But I also don’t believe any of the prospects the Jays are asking for are as good as Heyward and Hanson. Drabek is close to Hanson, but his distance from the majors makes him less valuable (right now). And Heyward is pretty much the #1 prospect in baseball.
I wasn’t blocked. But the person who was fake posting under my name was. I reported the comments and had a few email exchanges with the AJC. I verified my IP address and ID info and they blocked out the other one or two people who were faking other peoples names as well.
The AJC guys are on point when it comes to that.
Other than that, what the heck’s been going on here???
July 28th, 20094:15 pm
I was just looking up the same stats and comparing to historical stats. We are not overusing the bullpen. Yes, Moylan (2nd), Gonzo (6th) are in the top 10 (and Soriano is 22nd) in appearances, but they are 29th (Moylan), 19th (Gonzo), and 16th (Soriano) in IP in the NL. They are on a pace to pitch in 90 (Moylan), 82 (Gonzo), and 74 (Soriano) games, compiling 75.2 (Soriano), 74 (Gonzo), and 70.1 (Moylan) innings. Compared to the last decade, these numbers would put them in the top 10 in appearances most years, but in the 10-30 range in IP in the NL only:
‘97 97 IP in 74-78 appearances was the mean / range of the top 5 most used relievers
‘99 94 IP in 70-79
‘01 99 IP in 75-79
‘03 87 IP in 76-78
‘05 93 IP in 78-79
considering only guys who had 0 games started.
Great video recording about Jacoby Elsbury stealing home against Yankees……….you can see the whole play from far away but still close enough to appreciate it.
July 28th, 20094:16 pm
the stadium they are building here is supposed to have a retractable roof FWIW
Holy sh**…i ate burger king a few hours ago and turned 3 shades of green! Hope it isn’t food poisoning but I do feel better now. My advice for the day- watch what you eat.
I love DOB blogs but, I think Hudson just lost his cool. He’s been nothing but great to the atlanta community and I don’t think DOB throws 92-94 with movement. Do you DOB>
July 28th, 20094:17 pm
HeywardtheFuture: Kelly Johnson’s hot streak won’t be wasted….it’ll likely be tested tonight between the 7th and 9th innings as a pinch hitter, hopefully with men on base.
Lou disagree, while I love this blog, DOB job is to report the news, and he jumped the gun.
Haha, thanks. I think I just forgot to close the link with (without the spaces). Yeah, never had a smiley in a link before. Guess it’s possible!
July 28th, 20094:18 pm
Thanks for the heads up. Next time one of thos yahoos pirates my screen name, I am going to have them blocked too.
How about a campaign to dump Norton and bring up Brooks Conrad? that would be huge jump in batting average and give us a guy that can pinch it AND field competantly….
Please Wren….send Norton along in any trade you can….bats and ball work….or even balls alone…
July 28th, 20094:20 pm
Ah! Thanks for that little bit of info…
Seriously, what did you eat there?
Marlins fans, how frustrating is it to be a fan of that team when they constantly dismantle it? I couldn’t take it year after year. I read a little while ago where a fan asked if Ross would get moved and the guy said that he might because he’s starting to get pricey…that’s pathetic. It really is. Of course when you average, what, 8-10,000 people per game then it makes some sense but I think they know the team they’re paying to watch won’t be there next year, so why bother.
July 28th, 20094:21 pm
Take care buddy. I got some gosh aweful food poisoning (at Coors Field) about 5 years ago. No fun for about 36 hours! (as I sit at a Taco Bell, having just finished a Cheesy Double Beef Burrito!)
“here here, I laughed a LOT at the last line.” dogsbrekky
I wish I could take credit for it. Somebody else on the blog over the winter used it, and I liked it. The moment just felt right to use it. But I’m glad you enjoyed it.
July 28th, 20094:22 pm
McFann, double quarter pounder but I seriously think it might’ve been the coke. Sometimes the sugar from those drinks at fast food places can get you sick, so I don’t know.
And really folks, is there a trade scenario ON EARTH I could mention that wouldn’t be heaping redundancy on toppa (how ya’ll like that word) ad-nauseum redundancy? EVERY trade, no matter the utter bafoonery of it, has been mentioned, re-mentioned, discussed, dissected, autopsied, biopsied, looked at under an electron microscope, thrown against the wall, then brought-up again, again, and again.
Yeah, I like BBQ talk. I LOVE baseball too! THAT is why I’m here. I actually love reading what y’all have to say about trades or anything else. I just feel at times like there’s nothing substantive I can add. Y’all do such a good job that it leaves me with BBQ, Agnes Moorehead, the plight of mankind as we know it, and not much else.
That’s all I got….
July 28th, 20094:23 pm
Taco Bell is the best fast-food place place there is.
Whether or not the Braves make the playoffs this year, I think everyone should be able to recognize that Frank Wren has done a tremendous job this season as GM. From completely rebuilding the rotation in the offseason, to making the McLouth and Church trades before the Braves were too far out of the race for it to matter, he’s done a pretty good job in the GM chair. That’s definitely not to say he hasn’t made mistakes, but the overall result is looking pretty good about now. Bonus points for pulling of McLouth trade early enough to not fall back in the race (and not give the Pirates time to shop him around).
Prado @ 1st and Kelly @ 2nd, this team is a whole lot better. If you guys really think that Kotchman is a better hitter than Kelly because he was hurt/struggling for 2 months you need help.
Would you do this trade? A full rack of St. Louis style ribs (dry rubbed, not wet) for two pulled pork sandwiches and a medium portion of brisket?
What if I threw in some “red” potato salad?
July 28th, 20094:24 pm
So now KJ is hot and needs to be in the lineup? Wow.
July 28th, 20094:25 pm
i don’t think dob is going to agree with any his “job is to report the news” stance..can’t remember him giving us any pre or post game traffic updates. i think he has given us some rain delay weather related posts however.
Wayne, you just had to throw in Cheesy Double Beef Burrito didn’t you? I just gagged!
Taco Bell is way down on my list (but north of McDonalds for sure), but sometimes I don’t have a lot of choices.
July 28th, 20094:26 pm
Not going to disagree with you about Kelly being a better hitter than Kotchman. But I’d be willing to bet the runs saved by a defensive right side of Prado/Kotchman over a defensive right side of Johnson/Prado outweigh the difference in runs scored by Johnson over Kotchman.
My advice for the day- watch what you eat.
My lord you should see the spread we had in my office today. Almost 2 lunchroom tables of food. I might not eat again for a week!
I’m sure this has been covered a few thousand times but I missed each and every update… what’s the word on Omar Infante? Is he close to returning? Will he do some rehab-work in the minors before returning to Atlanta?
If Church continues to struggle i foresee KJ getting a shot out in right field.
Anybody remember who originated “bafoon” here? Was that you, Shamus?
“Those guys in the pen would never know their role and they would just have more pressure knowing if they messed up the next day they would be sent down. Which would be harder to succeed. Eric from Mo
I’m not suggesting on a weekly basis, bring guys up and down. But seriously, did it REALLY take Bennett breaking his hand to get him the hell off the roster? THAT is what I’m talking about.
“As for Schafer, KJ and Frenchy; the manager can’t be blamed when he doesn’t have good alternatives. Gotta drop that one on the GM.” Wayne
Yes and no. Schafer? I liked the gamble. The kid can play defense, he can run and provided everybody else on the roster was doing their job, would have fit in just fine in the 8-hole of the lineup. That being said, a “backup” would have been nice in case (as he turned out to), NOT be ready.
Francoeur? Don’t get me started. Totally agree that he shouldn’t have been counted on. BUUUUUUT, Diaz was on the 25 man roster the entire season. Why did it take Cox so long to make the “switch”? Same thing on KJ and Prado.
The longer Prado has success, the dumber Cox will look (and many bloggers for that matter), on that decision.
July 28th, 20094:27 pm
Coulda been the coke…I can’t drink caffeinated sodas anymore ’cause they make my heart race…(though sometimes I can’t resist a good Cherry Coke. They need a caffeine-free version of that…) I go completely root-beer for the most part.
But yeah, those drinks have some serious sugar. Gotta watch ‘em…glad yer feeling better. Hopefully the Braves don’t make the bad feeling come back tonight!
July 28th, 20094:28 pm
A significant key for Bravos is Wins in ONE run Games. Give us some stats Dave….we are way ahead of that horrible 2008 performance. PITCHING!!
“Not overusing the bullpen. “Based on innings pitched.”
You’re reasoning or assumptions are flawed. Without writing a long post. Its mostly about allowing the muscles,tendons,ligaments enough recovery time between throwing 100% and also each individual is different. One man might can pitch every other day no problems, but the next guy’s arm won’t let him whether he throws 1 inning or 2. A good coach learns his players limits.
July 28th, 20094:29 pm
You had it your way . . .
keep on exercisin’ there GROUCH.
njbraves………..dude, I never said that Kawakami was better than Tim Hudson. I recognize that the Tim Hudson before the surgery was better than Kawakami will ever hope to be.
However, two things factor into my decision to say that Tim Hudson should be used in short relief:
1. It’s hard to depend on a pitcher coming back from elbow surgery to go 6-7 innings during crucial late season games. While the Braves know what they will be getting with Kawakami……..they arent sure which Tim Hudson will show up the last part of the season, if he is used as a starter.
2. The Braves have a PRESSING NEED for a power arm to join Soriano and Gonzalez to help close out games. Imagine how powerful a 3some that Soriano/Gonzalez/Hudson would make? It would only be for the rest of the season. The bullpen would improve without having to make a trade or give anything up.
I mean, who would you rather see come into the 7th or 8th inning (especially on days that Gonzalez needs to rest) of a tight ballgame…………Tim Hudson or Peter Moylan?
Also, on days that Soriano has pitched back to back games, Hudson could be called to come in and get the 1 or even 2 inning save.
Having Hudson available to pitch short relief would give Bobby Cox a number of options at the end of games.
Crazy Trades McGee
July 28th, 20094:30 pm
Jo Jo Reyes, Jeff Bennett, Greg Norton, Kasey Cotchman for Adrian Gonzales and ptbnl
Really? See, I don’t like BK (well, their cinni-minis are good, as are their French-toast stinks…and their fries rock…and you can’t really go wrong with Icees). I like McDonald’s chicken and fries.
Not a huge burger person, to be honest. I eat the ones Dad cooks on the grill, but other than that, I’ll take chicken or a hot dog every time.
July 28th, 20094:31 pm
4:26 was right on!
DAP………….the Phillies may not need Roy Halladay to “get” to the post season. However, they will not “advance” in the post season without adding a pitcher like Roy Halladay.
I sure hope Brandon Morrow is the under the radar guy. IF he is availabe then the Braves need to test the waters.
Best thing to do is just cook your own food but sometimes you just don’t have time so ordering out or a drive-thru makes life a little easier… but it’s a huge gamble.
July 28th, 20094:32 pm
You seem to be conveniently forgetting that Infante was playing some second before going down, and Prado was a big banged up. Francoeur is all on Bobby, though with the adventures of Diaz in right, I can’t say I blame him too much on that one.
Church makes the ocassional Diaz in right bearable. Church is getting most of the play there. So, an argument can definitely be made that there was not a good option for Frenchy.
But then again, we come back to Bobby’s forte. He sticks with a guy, sometimes WAY too long. Sometimes it works, sometimes it don’t.
ANyone see JO-Jo pitch last night? He looked almost sleek for him. Looked pretty good!
First we complain about playing kelly to much then its not enough what the @#@#. HE IS NOT A STARTER NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 28th, 20094:33 pm
McFann, they face Nolasco so it makes any Brave fan feel better. I say that and watch him throw 7 shutout innings at us. Thanks anyways!
Closeted Fish Fan
July 28th, 20094:34 pm
Tn Brian–yes, it’s hard to watch the team get dismantled year after year. So many players are former Fish! I sit at Turner Field watching game after game and say to whoever is sitting next to me “former Marlin” countless times no matter which team is playing. Honestly, I’ve gotten used to it. It’s almost expected now. Low(est) payroll–they can’t keep players that way.
As for the attendance at whatever their calling the stadium these days–it’s terrible, for sure. Maybe the new stadium–retractable roof and all–will draw more fans, but I have to wonder. Someone else mentioned that south Floridians prefer watching on TV for all kinds of reasons not the least of which is mobility!
TNBrian: it’s all good. The rebuilding processes doesn’t bother me. We have won more world series than you all which is much better than winning division pennants!
July 28th, 20094:35 pm
Shamus, it’s no big deal that someone mentions a trade scenario and you glance at it not respond to it. It seems to me that people get mad at proposed trades because their above that sort of stuff. Kinda like someone being a movie snob and just liking indy flics. Maybe thats a stretch but the best BBQ I had was Gates BBQ in KC. Kind of a sketchy neighbor but the service and food would make you southeners feel right at home.
July 28th, 20094:36 pm
I love burgers, but not from the chains. Mostly, I am a burrito/sandwich/burger guy, but rarely from the big chains. I am trying to do more chicken these days, but I am on the road about 80% of the time. Gotta eat what’s available mostly. My customers are not normally near any decent eating establishments!
The food lineup: Veggie tray, croissant sandwiches, lavash, zucchini bread, strawberry cake with buttercream icing, chocolate pie, banana pudding, brownies, chicken salad, ham salad, fruit salad, sausage pinwheels, various chips and dips, chocolate cookies, umm….I can’t remember anything else but there was probably half dozen other things. No I didn’t try it all but I had my share. Won’t have to worry about dinner tonight!
I really hope the “under the radar arm” is Tyler Yates.
And I kid.
July 28th, 20094:37 pm
Crazy Trades McGee is back! I like him
Totally agree that Hudson is most valuable out of the pen. One other thing that’s important to note….in the playoffs, Cox will go with a 4-man rotation (at most). So by preparing Hudson to come out of the bullpen now, that’s one more bullet you’ll have to shut down the other team in a playoff series (unless you’d bench JJ, JV, Lowe, or Hanson over Hudson….I wouldn’t). Kawakami would slot into the “long relief” role in the playoffs, and *hopefully* not see a whole lot of time. If this was the beginning of the season, I might see things differently. But with about a month for Huddy to build up arm strengh, PLUS the knowledge that he wouldn’t be a part of a playoff rotation, I think you’ve got to use him out of the pen when he returns.
July 28th, 20094:38 pm
I like all Q. Even bad Q! (but I stop at McRibs!)
July 28th, 20094:39 pm
Fish Bisch it’s all good. The rebuilding processes doesn’t bother me. We have won more world series than you all which is much better than winning division pennants!
and thats exactly why you have no fans to go to the games. You have won two World Series and have gotten rid of all the players THAT offseason. Crazy! I fly to FL to go to the Braves games cause I get awesome seats since you have no fans. Honestly, I would rather go to a game with 30,000-50,000 fans and win the NL pennant but not win the world series than to win the world series and have nobody to celebrate with. But thats just me
Tyler had Tommy John a couple of weeks back, don’t think it’s him!
Whats the best food joint close to the Ted. I’ve been to the varsity but would like to eat somewhere a little more upscale next time.
July 28th, 20094:41 pm
MARK LEMPKE for Adrian Gonzales
BBQ – did someone mention dry BBQ. I am definitely a dry BBQ fan vs wet, but hey if I have to have wet BBQ, you know, “beggars can’t be choosers”.
July 28th, 20094:42 pm
No Red Velvet Cake? We miss Red Velvet Cake on this blog….
Pies too, not enough talk about pies…or toes. Not to be trifled with!
Braves will announce blockbuster deal at 5:30!! who is it
Oklahoma Brave–try Six Feet Under over on Memorial Drive near the cemetery. Burgers, fish, the usual. Really very close to TF especially if you go in the back way through Grant Park.
And I see there’s another rival with a rhyming name talking smack…but it’s not MarlinDarlin like I predicted
Wayne Way Out West: Shamus
Would you do this trade? A full rack of St. Louis style ribs (dry rubbed, not wet) for two pulled pork sandwiches and a medium portion of brisket?
I’d make that trade in a heartbeat, but they’d have to up the anty by adding sandwiches instead of brisket, and replacing tater salad with delicious, fresh, creamy, finely grated, heavily mayonaised, cole slaw. There’s a deal I can live with!
PS If family caught me eating brisket and potato salad they’d be on the horn to the Vatican again…
July 28th, 20094:43 pm
Wayne, I agree that Mickey don’ts is probably the worst food establishment in the world. Can never go wrong with the Q though. I’ve got family in Ogden and my wife’s cousin is a detective in Park Valley. He says its a scary place.
There is a bit of revisionism here regarding the Johnson/Prado situation. Infante had started platooning with Kelly, with Kelly even sitting for several games, and was hitting the daylights out of the ball before his unfortunate breakage. And Kelly wasn’t looking quite as bad in May as he was by the end of June. Bobby had watched Kelly weather slumps before, and he had always eventually hit his way out, usually with a hot streak at the end. Also, at the time Prado was struggling with his groin (as many of us do from time to time) and his average had gotten down to the .240’s, though Bobby was still giving him time at first and third. June makes the two look a lot further apart than they looked at the end of May, thanks to Kelly’s nosedive and Martin’s hot streak, but to say that Kelly batted .210 all year and Prado batted .330 all year is to take a lot of liberty with the truth. But, as always, why ruin a good story, huh?
July 28th, 20094:44 pm
where did you hear about this deal JOE? let me know…
I hope Boston and Toronto can work things out… I dont want to see Halladay in a Phillies uniform..
paul lentzthey will not “advance” in the post season without adding a pitcher like Roy Halladay.
says you. the phillies won it all last year with basically the same starters. if they have the offensive outbursts like they always get the certainly WILL advance in the postseason without roy halliday.
they would be a much better team with halladay, but they are a very good team without him, and if i were the phillies it just wouldnt be worth giving up my best young players…their versions of hanson and heyward. (just an example, i dont know if their prospects are as good or not.
July 28th, 20094:45 pm
So just out of curiosity, I went to fangraphs to see what Casey Kotchman’s defensive “value” has been so far this season. Not suprisingly, based on their metrics he’s been the 2nd best defensive 1st baseman in the NL this year. What WAS suprising was who has been #1……none other than Ryan Howard. I think I need to go lie down, because I also just say some pigs flying outside my office window…
DOB, you were right about the new Ryan Bingham album – it’s great. It has knocked Black Joe Lewis out of the “Album of the Year” spot for me so far.
July 28th, 20094:46 pm
Thanks closet I will definitely try it next time in town. Hopefully I can get back for postseason.
tale of woe
July 28th, 20094:47 pm
Joe lies, Joe lies, Joe lies….Quote from one of my favorite movies….
They have Coke Zero Cherry. It’s pretty decent, you know for a zero everything drink.
Braves will announce blockbuster deal at 5:30!! who is it
Any demolition work needed around The Ted? Maybe they’re dealing for an actual blockbuster.
July 28th, 20094:48 pm
Norris, I think Joe must be pulling our legs. I would be shocked if something happend other than obtaining bullpen help.
“I hope Boston and Toronto can work things out… I dont want to see Halladay in a Phillies uniform..”
I don’t want to see that. So Boston can win the next two years? No thanks. I’d like to see him stay put. I still think there is a good chance that happens.
July 28th, 20094:49 pm
Three way trade – Blue Jays get Heyward , Braves get Juan Pierre, Dodgers get Halladay
July 28th, 20094:50 pm
Shamus, maybe Joe is late is talking about the new Coke bottle or hopefully they’re bringing the cow down. Now that’s good fast food. Chickfila is the best.
I love ALL good Q, but my two favorites are dry rub ribs, and pork w/ a mustard base sauce!
(was in Ogden earlier today, btw)
July 28th, 20094:51 pm
I love burgers, but not from the chains.
Wayne, that S&M stuff don’t fit on a family blog!
July 28th, 20094:52 pm
And, brother, that’s a fact.
I’m a big Chickfila fan.
Boston = New evil empire
I hate them more than dare I say it the Phils, Mets, and Yanks. I’ve got way to many friends that became fans of theirs after 2003. They try to tell me how great Fred Lynn was. Very annoying!
July 28th, 20094:54 pm
Mets blog gets Paul Lentz and and two low level blogging prospects. AJC blog gets Anders
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