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Roman Gal
July 29th, 2009
1:01 pm
But it astounds me how much of a “pass” he’s getting this year, and guys like Kotchman get ripped on a daily basis.
Could you imagine how much better he’d be doing if he got more pitches to hit?
TexasBrave
July 29th, 2009
1:01 pm
curtis jones – am I happy about our near .500 record? No!! In fact I still maintain and have written a few posts that this team should have at least as good a record as the Phillies. However, if you think that Casey is the sole reason why the Braves are not better than they are, then you are sorely mistaken.
SorianoSavesNothing
July 29th, 2009
1:01 pm
I’ll be glad when the trade deadline passes. Then, some of these crazy trade ideas can go away. The Braves brass and players alike have said that they are playing for 2010 and beyound. Whey, then, would you trade away pieces of your team that may benefit you in 2010 and beyond? To catch the Phillies this year? That’s not going to happen if you make trades for three solid hitters. The Phillies are the World Champs and like it or not, Atlanta is in a rebuilding phase. They ARE in the Wild Card race but that doesn’t mean they should mortgage their future just so they can say, “WE MADE THE PLAYOFFS.”
Rock On....the denizen formerly known as Dadgum
July 29th, 2009
1:02 pm
Shaun….it is a numbers game from here on out for sure. The number is 90. Get that number of wins and the Braves make the playoffs. Won’t win the division with Philly’s pending trade coming up but should win the wild card. Ironically, it will most likely be the Nationals’ season series results that determines the Braves fate. If we can’t have a significant series advantage over the Nats then the Braves don’t deserve a post-season spot.
GboroBravo
July 29th, 2009
1:04 pm
From MLBTR:
12:03pm: Gordon Edes and Tim Brown of Yahoo report that the Phillies appear to be “on the verge” of acquiring Cliff Lee from the Indians for Carrasco, Knapp and at least two of Donald, Marson and Michael Taylor.
Shaun
July 29th, 2009
1:04 pm
braves fan lmh and semiballcoach, why would the Rays trade the talent it would take to get Victor Martinez and Cliff Lee? Not sure where that rumor is coming from.
Also, Crawford is a fine player so why would the Rays trade him for anything less than a king’s ransom?
And why would a team like the Braves give up a king’s ransom for a 27-year-old who has been a league average hitter for his career?
If the Braves could get him for a second-tier prospect or two, I’m all for it. But the Rays aren’t taking that or they shouldn’t. Not when they could probably get more.
Roman Gal
July 29th, 2009
1:04 pm
McFann-
I suppose so. I’m really good at getting myself and those around me out of trouble…so that can be my job.
And as for Capt Caveman, he did get Coach to leave. There’s certainly something to be said for that…
SorianoSavesNothing
July 29th, 2009
1:05 pm
How about this for those who love the trade fodder: Kelly Johnson, Jo Jo Reyes, Kris Medlin and Casey Kotchman to Pittsburgh for John (I think that’s his first name) Grabow and Freddy Sanchez. Martin Prado goes to first, Freddy Sanchez to second- even though he’s a rental- and Grabow to the bullpen. Then, you don’t have Casey Kotchman to criticize for not hitting home runs. Of course, Sanchez doesn’t hit home runs either and I think Casey and Prado both have about the same amount. Does that work for you?
ncscoots
July 29th, 2009
1:05 pm
Using Greg Norton has cost the Braves a number of shots to score runs and win games since he was called up right before the All-Star Break
Please show an example of a Norton AB which cost the Braves a win, and explain why. And, “he made an out” is not an explanation; you need to explain why that out, in that game, cost the Braves a win. Can you do that?
I don’t really care about Norton one way or another, but, it will be interesting just to see if you can actually analyze a game situation with more insight than “he’s bad”.
I don’t think I’ll wait with bated breath, though, while you take a stab at it.
faninva
July 29th, 2009
1:05 pm
Capt Caveman -
THANK YOU! I’ve been wanting to vent the same point to all these armchair, hindsight coaches about WALKING the go-ahead run. Soriano blew the save, it happens – you tip your cap and move on. But you NEVER walk the winning run on base in that situation.
Original Jon
July 29th, 2009
1:05 pm
Whoever said Atlanta is in a rebuilding phase knows absolutely nothing about baseball. yeah, trading for Vazquez, McLouth, and Church, signing Lowe, Kawakami and bringing up Hanson definitely screams rebuilding year. Sheesh, these damn armchair GMs are killing me.
TcD
July 29th, 2009
1:05 pm
CAB, McFann, RG, RHR(/strong>
I always read the blog, usually stay quiet – but cannot hurt to add another mad woman to the group — so, if you ever need a tie breaker, just send up a signal on the blog!! And I am a local as well
Capt Caveman
July 29th, 2009
1:06 pm
Paul — YOUR AND INDIOT !!! Nobody likes what Norton is doing this year, hell I even said he was gone last week. I was wrong. Where do you get this annoying compulsion to “teach the blog the errors of our ways” crap.
You know what they say about people who doth protest too much ……. they are usually guilty of the same thing. YOU MORON !!!!!!!!
TcD
July 29th, 2009
1:06 pm
OOPs….you guys know what I meant – didn’t mean to yell…
Il Cattivo
July 29th, 2009
1:06 pm
Do the pirates ever want to win? They always seem a couple of years away from making the big push and when the time comes, they just deal away their starters. The Marlins are way better. At this rate Sanchez will be hoping he gets dealt by friday.Everyday he must be feeling like he entered the wrong clubhouse by mistake.
DAP
July 29th, 2009
1:07 pm
shaun you are right that the braves have as good a chance as any of the teams ahead of them in the WC race, but the thing that sucks about the wild card, and makes it so hard to win, is that it doesnt matter how far back you are, it matters more how many teams are ahead of you. the braves have to hope for the worst for basically 5 teams right now. the astros, cubs, marlins, rockies and giants.
hopefully they can take care of the marlins themselves, but of the other 4 teams, they play only the astros for a series. with the wild card, your fate isnt entirley in your own hands…
SorianoSavesNothing
July 29th, 2009
1:07 pm
Shaun, that’s a trip isn’t it? The Phillies have a young nucleus on the big club, but they are dealing most of their prized prospects for one pitcher. What do they plan to do when or if they have, say, an injury. The truth is that in any other division, the Phillies would be in trouble. They need Lee and one or two more with Happ being in the trade.
Doc Holiday
July 29th, 2009
1:08 pm
Maybe its time to quit………..Phillie just keep winning.
Lets focus on the WC and if phillies collapse, we might be right on their tails.
Fish are now a problem (they always were).
We lost a game we should have won, now johnson can give us our 1st lost series in a long time. Lets hope we can pick up the win we didnt get last night. Sure we can.
SorianoSavesNothing
July 29th, 2009
1:09 pm
Original Jon, you’re right. I probably know nothing about baseball. Even though I broadcasted professional baseball for a number of years. You go ahead and espouse your professional wisdom on the Braves and their season. I will sit back and enjoy what you have to say.
Steve from OH
July 29th, 2009
1:09 pm
Whoever said Atlanta is in a rebuilding phase knows absolutely nothing about baseball.
We’re near the tail end of a rebuilding process. We’ve added some pieces, but they’ll be here for a while, and we’ve yet to see Heyward, Freeman and Schafer. We’re good now, but our best years are still to come IMO.
owl hunter
July 29th, 2009
1:09 pm
Don’t bring trade ideas if you don’t know the player’s names. Really.
Rock On....the denizen formerly known as Dadgum
July 29th, 2009
1:11 pm
Paul Lentz…..and to think that sending Conrad down helped us keep Norton when KJ came off the DL. Yeah that makes perfect sense to me. Send a hot hitter down so Cox can trot out his boy Norton in crucial rally-killing situations.
Doc Holiday
July 29th, 2009
1:12 pm
HOU vs Cubs on an early game at 2pm……….
PIT vs SF also with an afternoon game……….
Meaningful games ………. its like playoff time already. Go Bravos!!!!!!!!!
blazon
July 29th, 2009
1:12 pm
thanks for the help guys…
ncscoots
July 29th, 2009
1:13 pm
Don’t bring trade ideas if you don’t know the player’s names. Really.
Somehow, I doubt that correctly spelling players’ names lends a whole lot more credibility to most of the trade ideas bandied about in this forum, LOL. Therefore, I can’t see that misspelling the names detracts too much from those same ideas.
Nova Scotia Steve
July 29th, 2009
1:13 pm
Yeah folks the Division is gone…We’re 9 GAMES BACK….We are NOT winning the division.
As much as I would like to say we’re gunna give the Phillies heck…They’re good. Very Good…and are not going to blow a 9 Game lead
Original Jon
July 29th, 2009
1:14 pm
yeah, because we added some pieces doesnt mean we are in a rebuilding phase. So if the Phillies add Lee or Halladay, does that mean they are in a rebuilding phase? NO it does not, so believe what you want Mr So called announcer.
Doc Holiday
July 29th, 2009
1:14 pm
Hampton pitches today, lets hope he can help us and beat the cubs.
cabravesfan
July 29th, 2009
1:14 pm
TcD-
welcome aboard! Since I’m out here on the West Coast, it’s nice to know I can send you in to back the troops until I can arrive
SorianoSavesNothing
July 29th, 2009
1:14 pm
The Mariners acquire Jack Wilson and Ian Snell from Pittsburgh for a littany of players? Wow.
Doc Holiday
July 29th, 2009
1:15 pm
Duke vs Cain, so the Giants might win today.
braves fan lmh
July 29th, 2009
1:15 pm
Shaun,
The rumors come from http://www.mlbtraderumors.com I’m thinking that a package built around Kris Medlin, Luis Valdez, Cole Rohrbough, plus another piece or two would be sufficient. Because the rays would have to part with Wade Davis, Reid Brignac and others in a deal so they could put in Medlin, Rohrbough in the package for Halladay or Lee and V-mart. And keep Valdez for there bullpen and maybe as a future closer
Paul Lentz
July 29th, 2009
1:16 pm
ncscoots…….i just gave a SPECIFIC as to how using Greg Norton as a pinch hitter COST the Braves a chance to win a game. THE SATURDAY GAME AGAINST THE METS AFTER THE ALL-STAR BREAK!
Why dont you go look at the play by play on espn.com and see what happened in the bottom of the 8th inning? We were down 2-1 in that game. If Norton delivers with the bases loaded, it’s at least a 3-2 Braves lead. Then the Braves use Soriano in the top of the 9th to save the game, instead of Acosta (who gave up 3 runs in the top of the 9th to make the final score 5-1 Mets).
Do you want a better example?
McFann Ô
July 29th, 2009
1:16 pm
Shamus–
Haha…thanks!
Roman Gal–
You got the job!
Good point about Capt. Caveman. Besides…he’s also a former catcher.
TcD–
The more the merrier! No wait…maybe in this case it’s uh…the more the…um…Welcome aboard!
owl hunter
July 29th, 2009
1:16 pm
If you don’t know the names, you’re not paying attention.
Original Jon
July 29th, 2009
1:16 pm
now thats bs. I had a whole tirade written and posted on the blog for Capt Caveman but it looks like it didnt make it to print. well, the point was i really dont care if you read or reply to my posts at all, i could care less if you fell off the face of the earth. So please do me a favor and go back to not responding to my posts. Thanks
Doc Holiday
July 29th, 2009
1:16 pm
Santana pitches for the mets against the rockies………..maybe we could pick up a game on the rockies tonight.
Happ vs Petit (0-5)……….so the phillies will win that game………..that will be no news.
SorianoSavesNothing
July 29th, 2009
1:17 pm
Owl Hunter, go hunt an owl or something.
Doc Holiday
July 29th, 2009
1:18 pm
Poor KK might get another tough loss tonight.
SorianoSavesNothing
July 29th, 2009
1:19 pm
Original Jon, do you reckon Frank Wren and Chipper Jones understand the state of the Atlanta Braves? They have both admitted that Atlanta is playing for 2010 and beyond. Call it what you want to, it smacks of rebuilding.
Rock On....the denizen formerly known as Dadgum
July 29th, 2009
1:19 pm
FANINVA….you are kidding right? Tell you what I will do. Same situation each time. I will ALWAYS take a walk to put runners at 1st and 2nd with 1 out and a 1-run lead and let you throw 90+ mph 4-seam fastballs on a 3-1 count with the hitter sitting on red in a walk-off situation. You will not like the outcome. Trust me.
Shaun
July 29th, 2009
1:20 pm
DAP, technically there are four teams ahead of the Braves but it’s a 3 game difference. Having teams ahead of you means more when there is say a month to go and/or you are 5-6 games out. But three games with two months essentially means you are tied with those teams. You still control your destiny.
DAP
July 29th, 2009
1:20 pm
anders being injured for a season doesnt automatically remove you from the dominant category.
in the last 4 years, soriano has a 2.44 ERA with 43 holds, 28 saves, and only 10 blown saves. also, he has 213 Ks in 193 innings. those are pretty good numbers from a guy who missed almost an entire full season in the middle of those 4 years, and has never really had the opportunity to close full time.
Roman Gal
July 29th, 2009
1:21 pm
No wait…maybe in this case it’s uh…the more the…um…Welcome aboard! McFann
Haha…yes, welcome aboard TcD.
owl hunter
July 29th, 2009
1:21 pm
Ok. I’ll do that. I’ll still know the names of players I hope we acquire.
Vinings Jim
July 29th, 2009
1:21 pm
cabravesfan – “it’s nice to know I can send you in to back the troops until I can arrive” – I won’t be holding my breath until that happens (unless you take the Madden Express).
Fish Bisch
July 29th, 2009
1:21 pm
I garuntee Fish become victorious tonight! Good night Braves and better luck next year, hope that run of strong ball was good while it lasted.
David O'Brien
July 29th, 2009
1:22 pm
Back from a workout at this hotel, and the pool outside the window made it a bit tough to concentrate….
Curtis: Don’t know of anyone who’s not calm here except maybe you, getting worked up over what Soriano should or shouldn’t have said and letting us know how you’d prefer your athletes to shut up and play, apparently. (I’ve heard of people wanting them to not talk about politics or anything like that, but you might be the first I’ve heard wanting them to also not bother telling us what they think about the actual playing of their sport, the games, etc. Interesting.)
Shaun
July 29th, 2009
1:22 pm
Shaun, that’s a trip isn’t it? The Phillies have a young nucleus on the big club, but they are dealing most of their prized prospects for one pitcher.
what’s your point?
SorianoSavesNothing
July 29th, 2009
1:22 pm
Owl Hunter, you probably learned them by looking at their cards on the school bus this year. When school starts back, you’ll have plenty of time to learn more.
David O'Brien
July 29th, 2009
1:24 pm
RHR: I can’t believe I hadn’t caught onto that nickname for Soriano until now. That’s actually quite funny. I like it.
cabravesfan
July 29th, 2009
1:24 pm
VJ-
I thought you were quiting your “job” and heading out west with Heath…no need to wait for me there (and seeing as how I’m not going to fly you might be waiting a while anyways…)
N8
July 29th, 2009
1:25 pm
Shaun, I’m well aware that RBI can’t be used to judge a player’s production. The person I was responding to (or responding to their point), specifically said that Kotchman doesn’t drive in enough runs.
So I was comparing his RBI to Chipper. But believe me, I get it.
Shaun
July 29th, 2009
1:25 pm
The rumors come from http://www.mlbtraderumors.com
…Then it must be true.
owl hunter
July 29th, 2009
1:26 pm
You should go back to school and realize that reactioanry trades and opinions on a guy who had a fluke blown save will get you nowhere. The Braves lose one game, and you want trades and trash the closer after he’s been lights out all year. Please try to be more typical.
Rob from SC
July 29th, 2009
1:26 pm
DOB
Ask Frank Wren what else Jason Heyward needs to do about making his case for a big league callup
Shamus Thacker
July 29th, 2009
1:27 pm
I say we trade Norton, Conrad, Church, Bennett, Logan, Hernandez, and 15-players to be named later, for Pujols.
RHR
July 29th, 2009
1:27 pm
Yeah folks the Division is gone…We’re 9 GAMES BACK….We are NOT winning the division.
It’s actually 8 games but yeah, ever since we got within 2 by sweeping the Phillies and then the Mets, Marlins and Nationals laid down and died at the feet of Charlie Manuel thus putting it out of reach. I don’t think many people here still had hopes of winning the division even at 5 out seeing how the Phillies just don’t lose to anyone but the Braves. I mean, we can’t do it all, you have to have help from the other teams in the division.
Shaun
July 29th, 2009
1:29 pm
Garret Anderson – 103 OPS+
Carl Crawford – 113 OPS+
That’s somewhat misleading because Crawford is the better defender and baserunner. But is there really enough of a difference between Crawford and Anderson to justify giving up what it would take to get Crawford?
N8
July 29th, 2009
1:29 pm
Shaun, here is the post I was referring to:
“Say what you will, he [Kotchman] doesn’t drive in as many runs as he should, and all his hits seem to be weak bloops when they count.” MFin04 @ 12:14
BravoMan
July 29th, 2009
1:29 pm
Key tonight is the offense. We score 1st we get momentum and just let KK do his thing. He’s been pitching great it just seems that whenever he goes out there the matchups don’t favor us. Hopefully that’s not the case tonight. Like Doc Holliday said earlier it’s Santana tonight for the Muts. Let’s go Mets.
owl hunter
July 29th, 2009
1:31 pm
I can’t wait to see us not make all these stupid trades so maybe they will go awaw.
owl hunter
July 29th, 2009
1:31 pm
*away
Shaun
July 29th, 2009
1:32 pm
Ask Frank Wren what else Jason Heyward needs to do about making his case for a big league callup
I don’t think that’s a question that needs to be asked. Heyward just needs to continue to prove he can hit AA then possibly AAA pitching and he needs to get older. No reason to bring him up now when they have more than serviceable guys who can play the positions Heyward plays. That said, if there are a bunch of injuries and the Braves stay in the race, I don’t think it’s out of the question Heyward gets a shot. I think he could be at least a league average hitter right now.
Nova Scotia Steve
July 29th, 2009
1:32 pm
RHR
Not that it matter dude…but its 9 in the loss column and that’s where it counts!
BUt yeah I hear you…and there’s no guarntee we’ll continue to beat the Phillies during out last night games…but at the same time they’ll certainly be important games in relation to our wild card position.
Vinings Jim
July 29th, 2009
1:32 pm
cabravesfan – as usual, you are so far ahead of me. And, don’t forget, my sister’s out there in 10 days, so she could help us look.
Shaun
July 29th, 2009
1:34 pm
N8, yeah, I see. Seems that people have to find something negative about this team because right now they show know huge weakness and they are playing well.
brian
July 29th, 2009
1:34 pm
blazon – the Pelican game I saw this year, Heyward went yard opposite field, stole a base, and had another 1-2 hits. Solid in the field as well.
Efrim
July 29th, 2009
1:34 pm
Sorry about that bogus Halladay rumor post. My friend sent me a message and screen grab.
Anders, you don’t really think Soriano has had an “okay” year just because of his 14 saves, right? He’s been nothing short of terrific this year. Well worth it.
N8
July 29th, 2009
1:35 pm
“Casey’s under team control and has never been a free agent, so the salary comparison is meaningless.” BFIR
But it IS relevant to my point. Dollar per dollar, Kotchman (THIS YEAR) has been a better value than what Chipper has given up, defense included.
I’m not saying Kotchman is great. I’m not saying he is a long-term answer. I’m not denying that he may never be better than he is.
What I’m saying is that I don’t understand why he gets ripped on for being the “problem” with this lineup, when Chipper isn’t nearly as productive and scary to other teams in the lineup as he used to be, and by the end of that extension he just signed won’t be worth the money.
It’s not a knock on Chipper. I appreciate Wren keeping him in a Braves uniform. But there isn’t any denying that with our payroll restraints, Chipper’s 10 million could be spent to help out more. Kotchman’s 2.85 million wouldn’t bring much in return. Another Loaf is about all we’d get.
I’m just saying that the highest paid guys on the team, regardless of what they’ve done in the past, should be the ones that are leaned on to produce and blamed when things don’t go well. Nothing more.
brian
July 29th, 2009
1:36 pm
and blazon – it was a line drive shot. He definitely has some power and a lot of power potential currently. Seeing his ball come off his bat was like Chipper – great hitter who will hit homeruns – sometimes by “accident”
Cody Johnson on the otherhand hit a towering bomb well over 430 feet to dead center that was also above the 20 foot green backdrop that was behind the center field wall
semiballcoach
July 29th, 2009
1:37 pm
shaun—how is it being negative to acknowledge that this team cannot win a playoff series?
cabravesfan
July 29th, 2009
1:38 pm
VJ-
unless she is from this area she will never find me
Robert (Chipper Is The Best)
July 29th, 2009
1:40 pm
I know I’ll get the roll of the eyes on this but it would be really nice if the Braves could get a guy like Crawford. I know it would take a haul to get him. Crawford would make this offense complete.
semiballcoach
July 29th, 2009
1:40 pm
if phillies get lee, crawford is no longer in the equation
Nova Scotia Steve
July 29th, 2009
1:40 pm
On Soriano…
Yeah it totally sucked last night…But Garret Anderson had an excellend quote…”It’s not over until it’s over…until you get that third out”…So very true.
That’s the first game Soriano blew since what…May…it came at a terrible time…for sure…
It will be interesting to see how this team responds tonight!
Steve from OH
July 29th, 2009
1:41 pm
RG–I saw your post about Kimbrel last night and yes, he is absolutely filthy. Like the idea of seeing he, Gearrin and Valdez in the pen in the future…
lexbrave
July 29th, 2009
1:44 pm
phils completed the trade for lee
flange1
July 29th, 2009
1:44 pm
It looks like the Phillies are going to pass on Halliday and take Cliff Lee and Ben Francisco from the Indians for prospects not including Happ or Drabek.
I was hoping they would have to give up more, but I think Lee is more hittable than Halliday…
Steve and Efrim, what do you guys think?
RHR
July 29th, 2009
1:44 pm
I probably know nothing about baseball. Even though I broadcasted professional baseball for a number of years.
Heh.
GboroBravo
July 29th, 2009
1:44 pm
12:42pm: Ken Rosenthal and Jon Paul Morosi report that the sides have agreed to a deal that sends Cliff Lee and Ben Francisco to Philly for Jason Knapp, Carlos Carrasco, Jason Donald and Lou Marson. The teams still have to examine medical records for the deal to go through.
faninva
July 29th, 2009
1:44 pm
Rock On -
NO, I’m not kidding – are you? Your hindsight 20-20 thing is tiresome. I suppose if Soriano did walk the guy and the next batter hit a double in the gap that scored the winning run from first, you would be saying something like “c’mon, I just don’t know why he just didn’t throw strikes and let the defense back him up.” Seriously, it is one of the fundamental rules – you NEVER WALK the potential winning run on base in that situation. You need to “rock on” over to your local high school and ask the baseball coach or “rock on” over to your local library for a book on baseball fundamentals.
Steve from OH
July 29th, 2009
1:46 pm
Wow. The Phillies get Lee without giving up Brown, Taylor, or Drabek? Shapiro, you’re on my sh!t list now…
semiballcoach
July 29th, 2009
1:46 pm
shamus—in order to get pujols, it’d take a franchise to be named later
Vinings Jim
July 29th, 2009
1:48 pm
cabravesfan – she did live out that way for several years, so she has some abilities. Plus, given what I discerned from earlier posts, I believe I could track down your whereabouts the night of the 8th to a relatively small patch of land.
semiballcoach
July 29th, 2009
1:48 pm
shapiro looking to get him and wedge fired
Robert (Chipper Is The Best)
July 29th, 2009
1:48 pm
The Phillies probably cemented the division by acquiring Lee. The Braves need to shoot for the wild card.
Shaun
July 29th, 2009
1:49 pm
I know I’ll get the roll of the eyes on this but it would be really nice if the Braves could get a guy like Crawford. I know it would take a haul to get him. Crawford would make this offense complete.
Let’s try this again:
Garret Anderson – 103 OPS+
Carl Crawford – 113 OPS+
That’s somewhat misleading because Crawford is the better defender and baserunner. But is there really enough of a difference between Crawford and Anderson to justify giving up what it would take to get Crawford?
Robert (Chipper Is The Best)
July 29th, 2009
1:51 pm
Shaun, yeah there is. The fact the Crawford is younger, less injury prone and a helluva lot faster!
lexbrave
July 29th, 2009
1:51 pm
i have to take my hat off to the phils ownership.. they are playing the best baseball in the majors right now and didn’t just decide to stand pat and say you know what.. we like our team.
Johninnc
July 29th, 2009
1:51 pm
Quick Wren trade for a Bat.
Unknown
July 29th, 2009
1:51 pm
Braves will lose tonight, bank on it. They MIGHT win tomorrow but this season is over. BALLGAME!
cphizzle
July 29th, 2009
1:52 pm
yep gotta give it to the phils they are hot on the field and still makin deals…that is the receipe for success
Supes
July 29th, 2009
1:53 pm
Indians TOTALLY bending over for the Phillies.
Brown, Taylor, or Drabek I WANTED To see those guys traded, b/c those are THEIR best prospects.
They gave up their “B” team of prospects for last year’s Cy Young award winner. UNREAL.
Cleveland GM should be FIRED after this deal is finalized.
Paul Lentz, feel free to use the word “MORON” toward the Cleveland Indians GM – Explaining a little more of why their team continues to SUCK year in and year out.
On the other hand, I’m relieved the Phillies aren’t getting Roy Halladay. Not that Cliff Lee is a “slouch”, he’s definitely more hittable and less likely to throw a complete game at you.
Capt Caveman
July 29th, 2009
1:56 pm
YO Original Jon — I guess I forgot to tell you that I’m half-Italian, and I know some people who know some people who block out crap on this blog….. LOL
If your going to take issue with how the Braves play, then you could at least learn the how the game of baseball is played correctly.
And NO — putting the winning run on base in the last inning is not even close to being correct. Only in a situation where the other coach had no subs left and maybe the pitcher was hitting next…… maybe then. But otherwise NO, NEVER, ABSO-FREAKIN-LUTELY NOT!!!
Fish Bisch
July 29th, 2009
1:57 pm
i agree unknown: why don’t you come out of the closet with the rest of us fish fans!
cabravesfan
July 29th, 2009
1:57 pm
VJ-
hey, if you want to drive all the way up there and pay for parking, go for it…you still have to find me
Shaun
July 29th, 2009
1:57 pm
Shaun, yeah there is. The fact the Crawford is younger, less injury prone and a helluva lot faster!
So is Willy Taveras.
Fish Bisch
July 29th, 2009
1:58 pm
did you guys hear about the most recent pittsburg trade? they gave seattle ian snell and jack wilson for a shortstop who hasn’t hit in his last 26 at bats?!?! good one!
Mitchie-san
July 29th, 2009
1:58 pm
Wow, I hate to say it, but great deal for Philly. UGh. Wild Card, here we come.
I hate rooting for the Wild Card. Its like working hard everyday at your job, just to settle for middle management.