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		<title>By: dub</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-braves-blog/2009/07/26/chipper-and-church-rest-plus-the-lowe-down/comment-page-29/#comment-241673</link>
		<dc:creator>dub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 09:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>shouldn&#039;t gave chipper a three year contract he&#039;s not worths the money. can anyone tell me who is Yunel agent is,because he should be getting paid,and prado they r the ones carrying the braves now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>shouldn&#8217;t gave chipper a three year contract he&#8217;s not worths the money. can anyone tell me who is Yunel agent is,because he should be getting paid,and prado they r the ones carrying the braves now.</p>
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		<title>By: Joebrave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joebrave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roman gal you&#039;re a bitch!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roman gal you&#8217;re a bitch!</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Lentz</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-braves-blog/2009/07/26/chipper-and-church-rest-plus-the-lowe-down/comment-page-29/#comment-224949</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Lentz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An &quot;under the radar&quot; kind of move that Frank Wren could make is to trade Kenshin Kawakami to a team like Oakland (who could use a veteran presence in their starting rotation......and......there is a big Asian fan base in the Bay Area).  Wren could make a trade like this before the trade deadline in exchange for some bullpen help (the A&#039;s have a couple of good relievers).......or maybe also some help for the bench as well. 

Even though on the surface it would appear that the A&#039;s wouldnt be looking to take on payroll, acquiring Kawakami is the kind of move that their GM Billy Beane would make......with the possibility of flipping Kawakami for some prospects next year before the trade deadline.  

Trading Kawakami to a team like Oakland would free up a spot in the rotation for Tim Hudson in mid August.  The Braves could use Kris Medlen as a fill in until then.  

Just an idea that I believe has possibility.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An &#8220;under the radar&#8221; kind of move that Frank Wren could make is to trade Kenshin Kawakami to a team like Oakland (who could use a veteran presence in their starting rotation&#8230;&#8230;and&#8230;&#8230;there is a big Asian fan base in the Bay Area).  Wren could make a trade like this before the trade deadline in exchange for some bullpen help (the A&#8217;s have a couple of good relievers)&#8230;&#8230;.or maybe also some help for the bench as well. </p>
<p>Even though on the surface it would appear that the A&#8217;s wouldnt be looking to take on payroll, acquiring Kawakami is the kind of move that their GM Billy Beane would make&#8230;&#8230;with the possibility of flipping Kawakami for some prospects next year before the trade deadline.  </p>
<p>Trading Kawakami to a team like Oakland would free up a spot in the rotation for Tim Hudson in mid August.  The Braves could use Kris Medlen as a fill in until then.  </p>
<p>Just an idea that I believe has possibility.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Lentz</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-braves-blog/2009/07/26/chipper-and-church-rest-plus-the-lowe-down/comment-page-29/#comment-224915</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Lentz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 18:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lew..............I know the feeling.  

Also, if the Braves were to let Hudson walk at the end of the year, they would get draft picks as compensation.

Either way, Frank Wren would have a number of options to pick from when he decides which course of action he wants to take this winter.  I&#039;m confident that he can do the job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lew&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..I know the feeling.  </p>
<p>Also, if the Braves were to let Hudson walk at the end of the year, they would get draft picks as compensation.</p>
<p>Either way, Frank Wren would have a number of options to pick from when he decides which course of action he wants to take this winter.  I&#8217;m confident that he can do the job.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Lentz</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-braves-blog/2009/07/26/chipper-and-church-rest-plus-the-lowe-down/comment-page-29/#comment-224903</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Lentz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 18:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>N8................Jason Heyward is staying in Double A for the rest of the season.  The economics of the game has changed since 1996 (when Andrew Jones was called up).  The Braves have a serviceable platoon with Matt Diaz/Ryan Church playing right field.  When Omar Infante comes back, he&#039;ll be platooning with Ryan Church and Matt Diaz will be platooning with Garret Anderson (after all, Matt Diaz is much more effective against lefties then righties).  

Many of you may not want to keep hearing this, but like it or not, Jason Heyward WILL NOT be called up to the Majors in 2009. The Braves will MORE THAN LIKELY have him follow the same path as Tommy Hanson.  If the Braves bring up Heyward in June of 2010.....then he wont be eligible for salary arbitration until after the 2013 season.....and not eligible for free agency until after the 2016.  If the Braves bring him up in late August and makes the team out of Spring Training....then he becomes eligible for both salary arbitration and free agency a year early.  

Like it or not, economics play a BIG PART of the decision making.  I am more than ok with that, because I know that the Braves are on a budget and I want to see them get maximum use of the dollars they spend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>N8&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.Jason Heyward is staying in Double A for the rest of the season.  The economics of the game has changed since 1996 (when Andrew Jones was called up).  The Braves have a serviceable platoon with Matt Diaz/Ryan Church playing right field.  When Omar Infante comes back, he&#8217;ll be platooning with Ryan Church and Matt Diaz will be platooning with Garret Anderson (after all, Matt Diaz is much more effective against lefties then righties).  </p>
<p>Many of you may not want to keep hearing this, but like it or not, Jason Heyward WILL NOT be called up to the Majors in 2009. The Braves will MORE THAN LIKELY have him follow the same path as Tommy Hanson.  If the Braves bring up Heyward in June of 2010&#8230;..then he wont be eligible for salary arbitration until after the 2013 season&#8230;..and not eligible for free agency until after the 2016.  If the Braves bring him up in late August and makes the team out of Spring Training&#8230;.then he becomes eligible for both salary arbitration and free agency a year early.  </p>
<p>Like it or not, economics play a BIG PART of the decision making.  I am more than ok with that, because I know that the Braves are on a budget and I want to see them get maximum use of the dollars they spend.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Lentz</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-braves-blog/2009/07/26/chipper-and-church-rest-plus-the-lowe-down/comment-page-29/#comment-224884</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Lentz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 18:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DAP............your 10:58am posting was incorrect when you said that Tim Hudson &quot;isnt owed $13 mil for 2010&quot;.  

Tim Hudson has a $13 mil 2010 option, or the Braves can buy him out for $1 mil if they dont want to exercise the 2010 option.  You might want to look it up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DAP&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;your 10:58am posting was incorrect when you said that Tim Hudson &#8220;isnt owed $13 mil for 2010&#8243;.  </p>
<p>Tim Hudson has a $13 mil 2010 option, or the Braves can buy him out for $1 mil if they dont want to exercise the 2010 option.  You might want to look it up.</p>
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		<title>By: DAP</title>
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		<dc:creator>DAP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 18:26:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;piedmont&lt;/strong&gt;

i understand what your saying, but its a pretty simplistic way of saying what 80 percent of a pitcher is. tim redding isnt even half the pitcher tim hudson is. if tim is a 10, then redding is a 2 or 3, buddy.</description>
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<p>i understand what your saying, but its a pretty simplistic way of saying what 80 percent of a pitcher is. tim redding isnt even half the pitcher tim hudson is. if tim is a 10, then redding is a 2 or 3, buddy.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Lentz</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-braves-blog/2009/07/26/chipper-and-church-rest-plus-the-lowe-down/comment-page-29/#comment-224851</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Lentz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 18:18:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>njbraves...........what role in the bullpen would you have Kawakami pitch in if he is demoted when Hudson returns?  Also, who in the bullpen would get sent to Triple A (considering a roster move would have to be made to activate Tim Hudson)?

Would you send Medlen back to Triple A?  If so, then basically you&#039;ll rarely see Kawakami pitch because the starting pitching rarely gets knocked out early.  Or what about Manny Acosta?  If so, then Kawakami would have to be able to come in for an inning in either the 6th, 7th, or even 8th innings (depending on how often the other relievers have been used).  

Kawakami isnt a short inning kind of guy.  He is slow to the plate (which would be disastrous for a short relief pitcher).  Kawakami walks a number a hitters (again disastrous).  Also, Kawakami is the kind of pitch who tends to get hit early, then settle down to grind it out.  However as a short reliever, a reliever cant afford to struggle early.  He has to be able to come in and get it done IMMEDIATELY.  

So knowing all that (unless you disagree with my assessment of Kawakami&#039;s short relief abilities)........how much would having Tim Hudson take Kawakami&#039;s spot in the rotation really help? After all, would Hudson be expected to pitch more than 6 innings and give up less than 2-3 runs a game (which is what Kawakami has been doing since his struggles in April)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>njbraves&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..what role in the bullpen would you have Kawakami pitch in if he is demoted when Hudson returns?  Also, who in the bullpen would get sent to Triple A (considering a roster move would have to be made to activate Tim Hudson)?</p>
<p>Would you send Medlen back to Triple A?  If so, then basically you&#8217;ll rarely see Kawakami pitch because the starting pitching rarely gets knocked out early.  Or what about Manny Acosta?  If so, then Kawakami would have to be able to come in for an inning in either the 6th, 7th, or even 8th innings (depending on how often the other relievers have been used).  </p>
<p>Kawakami isnt a short inning kind of guy.  He is slow to the plate (which would be disastrous for a short relief pitcher).  Kawakami walks a number a hitters (again disastrous).  Also, Kawakami is the kind of pitch who tends to get hit early, then settle down to grind it out.  However as a short reliever, a reliever cant afford to struggle early.  He has to be able to come in and get it done IMMEDIATELY.  </p>
<p>So knowing all that (unless you disagree with my assessment of Kawakami&#8217;s short relief abilities)&#8230;&#8230;..how much would having Tim Hudson take Kawakami&#8217;s spot in the rotation really help? After all, would Hudson be expected to pitch more than 6 innings and give up less than 2-3 runs a game (which is what Kawakami has been doing since his struggles in April)?</p>
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		<title>By: TexasBrave</title>
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		<dc:creator>TexasBrave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 18:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Drive by blogger even with what you mentioned there were moves, or non-moves in this case, that could have and should have been made earlier when it was quite obvious that certain players were not going to be productive than others we had in reserve. That and the mismanagement of the bullpen has cost our pitchers and the team a few wins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drive by blogger even with what you mentioned there were moves, or non-moves in this case, that could have and should have been made earlier when it was quite obvious that certain players were not going to be productive than others we had in reserve. That and the mismanagement of the bullpen has cost our pitchers and the team a few wins.</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne in Utah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayne in Utah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 17:56:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shemales on the blog??  We know most of the usual suspects, but who else?  (I bet scoots is secretly a lady braves fan!)

:-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shemales on the blog??  We know most of the usual suspects, but who else?  (I bet scoots is secretly a lady braves fan!)</p>
<p> <img src='http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-braves-blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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