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Spelling.
July 28th, 2009
11:23 am
When you consistently spell multiple players names wrong you lose credibility. How hard is it to spell players names right? You watch the games, you read their stats, its not that hard….
ncscoots
July 28th, 2009
11:24 am
I’d like to see Wren acquire a guy (if Kotch is traded), that is RH and could play 1B and 3B, and is young enough to move to 3B when Chipper is done, clearing room for Freeman at 1B.
Had that guy, and couldn’t sign him. He’s in pinstripes.
brent a.
July 28th, 2009
11:25 am
The Braves made no changes?
Kelly – injured, minors, replaced by Prado
Francoeur – gone, no longer dumping on our line-up; replaced by Church/Diaz
Schafer – gone, replaced by McClouth
Hanson – added, replaced our make-shift #5’s (Jo-Jo, etc.)
I think the Braves have made a lot of positive changes, not to mention Anderson getting a little bit healthier, which I think has led to him improving his production.
Also, McCann was essentially blind in April, and spent time on the DL. He’s back, and can see.
Lots of changes, and improved health = better Braves
Flat Bill Kid
July 28th, 2009
11:26 am
N8 spot on with your 11:19 post. Does Freddy Sanchez fit that bill?
Jeff R
July 28th, 2009
11:26 am
Kawakami? I’m always surprised that plenty of bloggers want to move Vazquez BUT keep Kawakami.
Kawakami is the weak link in the rotation. The guy doesn’t even average a paltry six innings a start. His bases on balls – strikeout ratio stinks.
Oh, but that’s right. The myth of the Bonzi Pipeline. All those Japanese players who will flood the Braves because we don’t trade Kawakami. The honor thing.
There’s more talent in the Dominican Republic than all of Japan. If anyone starter should be moved, it’s Kawakami.
Piedmont Blues (ex-BFIR)
July 28th, 2009
11:26 am
KC,
Agreed that there’s an advantage to keeping Hudson over Vazquez simply because you can prevent a potential ace starter from joining another club in your division.
In a perfect world, Hudson would be better than he was before the surgery and the Braves could keep both him and Vazquez. One of them’s going to go. Let’s hope the club gets a sound reading on Hudson’s health between now and October.
Lew
July 28th, 2009
11:26 am
Well of course Hudson wants to exercise the option-$12 mil in one hand or $1 mil in the other and still looking for a team.
RHR
July 28th, 2009
11:27 am
BAS – ha. good stuff this morning, how you feeling at work today?
Lew
July 28th, 2009
11:28 am
BFIR-And letting Vazquez go to another team is any different from that?
Wayne in Utah
July 28th, 2009
11:29 am
Piedmont Blues
I think sometimes a change is good. What I keep coming back to is this: How many times have we seen a team totally give up on a pitcher, and about 1-3 years later, he eventually puts things all together, and has a productive career.
I just think the Hanson’s and Jurrjen’s are rare, but the late bloomers are given up on too quickly.
Not blaming the clubs, because the current situation (arb clock and roster requirements) does not allow you to shuttle a guy out and back between the big club and AAA.
RHR
July 28th, 2009
11:30 am
I know Lowe’s contract will prevent him from being traded, but is it really 100% out of the question that KK could be traded?
MFin04
July 28th, 2009
11:32 am
Why not keep all of them and see what happens? Is it really impossible that the Braves keep Lowe, Vazquez, Jurrjens, Hanson, Kawakami and Hudson? They could be losing Gonzo and/or Soriano, so maybe one of the starters turns into a closer?
Wayne in Utah
July 28th, 2009
11:32 am
Jeff R
I would not be surprised to see something happen with Kawakami or Lowe this off season. I know there are “other” reasons why those moves would not be easy, but I think FW is a creative type, when it comes to those sort of issues.
Later folks.
RHR
July 28th, 2009
11:34 am
No MFIKY either?
No Loaf, No MFIKY, No Huddy or Javy, No Gonzo? That’s turrible. Just turrible.
Memories of JoJo, Corky, and Bob Wickman flash before my eyes…
Original Jon
July 28th, 2009
11:34 am
MLBTradeRumors.com said that we have inquired about the A’s Michael Wurtz.
dogsbrekky
July 28th, 2009
11:36 am
No way we trade Vazquez, guy is a gun and a Bobby type of pitcher
Hudson deserves a chance to come back and show us what he has got, guy is a proven long term winner with one of the best W-L ratios in mlb. Suspect we pick up his option if he is healthy come year’s end
Flat Bill Kid
July 28th, 2009
11:36 am
RHR
It has been said that trading KK will kill our relations with the Japanese players. Well who the heck has been that good coming from over there to the states? Daisuke? hurt and overpaid. Matsui overpaid and over the hill. Irabu? finished after his brief time in the league. And just where have all these supposed players gone to play? NY or Boston. Let’s trade KK!
N8
July 28th, 2009
11:36 am
Here’s a thought.
Ride out this season, as is. This winter trade Vazquez for the best “offer”. If said offer is a big bat? So be it. If said offer is a AA pitcher that will help once Lowe, KK or Hudson are gone? So be it.
Make a HARD push for either Gonzalez or Soriano. Letting the other walk. All while, keeping a close eye on Smoltz’ progression the rest of this year (neat article from Hersheiser on ESPN’s site about his thoughts on Smoltz), and see if the bridge can be gapped for him to come back and finish in a Braves uniform as part of a closer by commitee situation in the pen.
Wren has so many options ahead of him, it’s not even funny. He literraly is going to have to work hard to mess it up. Most of the options are good ones, with plenty or upside to whichever decision he makes. Most have some “worst case scenario” to them as well.
I think ultimately, he’ll make the correct decision. Unless he makes the wrong one.
McFann ;Ô;
July 28th, 2009
11:36 am
Flat Bill Kid I don’t doubt Heyward will be there before too long, but BMac has done great in the 4 hole. I know your proud.
Yeah, I’m sure it won’t take long for Heyward to be put in the cleanup spot…once he comes up.
BMac has done a pretty good job there–I’m proud indeed (though I wish he had a few more RBI…). I like him best in the fifth spot–he seems to have been made for that spot. But yeah, he’s basically been the Braves only option there this year, and one can’t complain of the job he’s done (though I would like to see our RBI leader, Yunel Escobar, have a shot there).
David O'Brien
July 28th, 2009
11:37 am
siskel: Conrad wasn’t a Rule 5 pick. He signed as a minor league free agent.
chc4
July 28th, 2009
11:38 am
If the Padres really are looking to trade Adrian Gonzalez I hope Wren at least makes a phone call. He’s only 27 and signed for 3 years at a very team friendly number. Obviously Freeman would be part of the deal. SD probably wants too much but couldn’t hurt to ask.
cphizzle
July 28th, 2009
11:41 am
next two series will prolly determine whether or not we are going to be in the hunt for the postseason
Fish Bisch
July 28th, 2009
11:41 am
I’ve got two reasons why the Fish will win: Hanley Ramirez
TexasBrave
July 28th, 2009
11:41 am
Jeff R I agree with you on keeping Vasquez over KK. If by the end of the season if Hudson proves he has returned to his old form and everyone else stays the same you move the weakest link and that is KK. Now of course our weak link is better than most 4th or 5th starters in the league but can you imagine a rotation of Hudson Lowe JJ Vasquez and Hanson, that has World Series written all over it if we can at least keep the same offensive consistency we have right now.
Heck I would much rather move Lowe than Vasquez.
David O'Brien
July 28th, 2009
11:43 am
chc4, Freeman would only be the tip of the iceberg of what the Padres would want for Gonzalez. They’ll get what they want, too, I’d be willing to bet. This isn’t Peavy, signed to a huge long-term contract and with health issues. This is a premium power-hitter entering his prime, signed to a club-friendly contract. They’ll get mutliple top prospects and or young players in return for him.
chc4
July 28th, 2009
11:46 am
DOB — I agree which is why I said we probably wouldn’t meet their demands. But he’s signed at a well under market value contract which is ATL’s kind of player these days. Of course, that’s everyone’s kind of player (except the sorry Padres).
David O'Brien
July 28th, 2009
11:46 am
I have no doubt the Braves have called about Wuertz. He’s exactly the kind of guy they need to fortify a pen that’s got a quartet of guys who’ve already piled up a ton of appearances. Wuertz has 62 strikeouts and 13 walks in 47-1/3 innings, by the way. There’s a lot of interest in him.
Flat Bill Kid
July 28th, 2009
11:47 am
Fish Bisch, what is the other?
The Love Child of Dale Murphy and Johnny Cash
July 28th, 2009
11:47 am
To get Gonzalez from the Padres, the Braves would have to give up two of Hanson, Heyward, or Freeman. I don’t see anyway Wren would do that nor do I think he should.
Tomahawkin
July 28th, 2009
11:48 am
WOW a Marlins Fan on this Blog…?
How About showing up to some of the Games in Ft Liquordale?
And Prove the Rest of the country wrong in that you guys don’t deserve a new state of the art retractable roof ballpark…
Flat Bill Kid
July 28th, 2009
11:49 am
Fish Bisch, and the other reason would be?
cphizzle
July 28th, 2009
11:49 am
and to the padres i would say thanks but no thanks no way one player is worth our top prospects…with escobar, nate, schaffer, heyward and freeman and the pitching staff, we have the makings of what could be a very good ballclub for a long time
UNCBrave
July 28th, 2009
11:49 am
Lew,
Vasquez is having a CAREER year, HUDSON does it EVERY YEAR…Look at their CAREER stats
MFin04
July 28th, 2009
11:49 am
Braves need to see what it takes to get Adrian Gonzalez. Perfect fit for the Braves.
UNCBrave
July 28th, 2009
11:51 am
I agree with Jeff R and RHR…
Trade Kawakami and keep Hudson and Vasquez….Don’t give me the Japanese thing either…
Spelling.
July 28th, 2009
11:52 am
UNZBrave – Obviously didn’t bother to look up the Braves roster. Vazquez….Vazquez….Vazquez….
cphizzle
July 28th, 2009
11:53 am
oh and i forgot to mention bmac how did i leave that guy out oopps
Roman Gal
July 28th, 2009
11:53 am
Hell give em Shafer if that will do the trick, Willingham??? I don’t know
You’re right, Joebrave, you don’t know.
Piedmont Blues (ex-BFIR)
July 28th, 2009
11:53 am
Lew, if the Braves trade Vazquez they have some say over where he goes.
I understand the consensus that it’s better to move Kawakami instead of trading Vazquez or losing Hudson. But the issue with KK is and always has been his contract. Is he worth approx. $16 million over two years to another club — and can the Braves get more than simply salary relief in return?
At least with Vazquez you’re likely to get something valuable from a trading partner.
18 Wheels of Love
July 28th, 2009
11:54 am
UNCBrave, you still are glazing over the main issue. Career stats mean nothing when you are just getting over elbow surgery. Let’s say you and I are both 2 handicaps in golf, however you had elbow surgery last year. Regardless of how well you are hitting it on the range, who do you think Vegas would put better odds on in a 18 hole match-up?
Piedmont Blues (ex-BFIR)
July 28th, 2009
11:55 am
I get the distinct impression that Joebrave doesn’t think much of minor leaguers …
chc4
July 28th, 2009
11:55 am
Trade Kawakami? Who do you suppose wants a 34 yr old rookie making $8mm per year through 2011? That’s totally unrealistic. Like it or not he’s a part of this staff for the length of the contract. He’s serviceable so I’m okay with it but clearly he’s not what we had hoped.
RHR
July 28th, 2009
11:58 am
I’m with you Flat Bill, how many Japanese players have the Braves ever had anyway? I like Kawakami, not knocking him at all but when it comes down to Javy or Huddy? He and Lowe are the odd men out for me. Whatever happens, it is a nice problem to have. But when you start talking about losing a good starter and both our closer guys…another Bob Wickman type would be a nightmare. Frank Wren has been pretty bad ass so far, maybe he’s got a few more tricks up his sleeve.
Oh and Wayne? My son is 6′2″ and we (me) asked for McFann first.
Heath
July 28th, 2009
11:59 am
Flat Bill Kid -
I believe he meant:
1.) Hanley
2.) Ramirez
Just my interpretation…
RHR
July 28th, 2009
12:00 pm
Is he worth approx. $16 million over two years to another club
If you’re the Phillies, Mets, Dodgers, Red Sox, or Yankees? Yes.
mustrdgasnroses
July 28th, 2009
12:00 pm
UNCBrave,
Their career stats, as a whole, point to Hudson as the much better pitcher. However, Hudson’s ERA+ in Atlanta is 114 (a decrease, despite a move to the AL), as compared to Vazquez’s 106 for his career. Vazquez’s ERA+ has been noticeably higher in his stints with NL clubs (an average of 119, excluding his first two seasons in the bigs).
dogsbrekky
July 28th, 2009
12:01 pm
Dobi One and others – heard here from a Yanks insider they have asked a few times about GONZO… any word on a deal there…. who in the Yanks could we seriously get for Gonzo ?
flange1
July 28th, 2009
12:02 pm
Well I have heard about the Javy VS Hudson thing for the last month between Lew and KC and both have strong points.
I get the impression that Javy pitches well when he is comfortable. He was comfortable in Montreal, but not so much in AZ, NY or CHI. While I do think he is pitching a bit better than his norm, I think if in ATL he will do the same next year. He likes ATL and he like BC.
In terms of Hudson, I like his competitiveness, even though he did go to Auburn!
But I am not sure that we can make a decision without seeing him pitch. I think he will come back and be as good or better than he was prior to surgery but we need more time to see.
I am very much for the trade of KK and keep both of these guys. Even if you just get salary relief you have a killer staff. Even if you have to give up either Gonzo or Soriano to make it work.
UNCBrave
July 28th, 2009
12:03 pm
Uggla and Cody Ross always KILL us with the Fish…They’re the Randy Winn and Ryan Braun of the Giants and Brewers
MFin04
July 28th, 2009
12:04 pm
What are the chances Bobby Cox comes back next year? 50/50? 100/0?
Tomahawkin
July 28th, 2009
12:05 pm
Any team that Trades For Adrian Gonzalez better be prepared to empty their Farm System…
I like the Idea but No Chance In Hell Would F. Wren Trade the Farm for Gonzalez…We went through that with “Tex”
MFin04
July 28th, 2009
12:05 pm
LOL – the standings from Braves.com Front Page. That’s a nice way of looking at them, lol.
Atlanta 51 48 .515 7.0
Florida 51 48 .515 7.0
New York 47 51 .480 10.5
Philadelphia 57 40 .588 -
Washington 31 68 .313 27.0
Jaglawyer
July 28th, 2009
12:08 pm
MFin04
July 28th, 2009
11:49 am
Braves need to see what it takes to get Adrian Gonzalez. Perfect fit for the Braves.
———
Not sure Wren would want to deal with Towers again after the Peavy debacle but I would think the Padres would probably start with Tommy Hanson, Jason Heyward and Freeman for Gonzalez.
I think I’ll pass . . .
BravesfaninWis
July 28th, 2009
12:09 pm
On MLB Trade Rumors it states that the Braves are interested in the Pirate’s Freddie Sanchez.. Why would the Braves be interested in him? I know that he is a good hitter, but we have a good surplus of middle infielders that are doing their jobs just fine.. If anything, we need bullpen help.. I can see us adding an OF as well because we lack speed with GA in the lineup..
UNCBrave
July 28th, 2009
12:09 pm
Phillies have to face DAN HAREN tonight…..Haren has given 14 ER in his last 10 starts
Fish Bisch
July 28th, 2009
12:11 pm
We’re packing out the stadium these days. I think 13,000 strong. We love our Marlins! The other reasons is Ricky Nolasco by the way.
Jeff R
July 28th, 2009
12:11 pm
Wayne in Utah…
You’re right. I think Wren will do something this winter to make the rotation younger. Kawakami is certainly a candidate. Not as sure about Lowe. He’s pretty steady, and I’m not sure what teams would be willing to take on his salary.
TexasBrave…
I’m with you. If Hudson could return to form, it would make a better rotation absent Kawakami. But I think Wren does need to consider the budget. $12 million to retain Hudson is a big chunk of change. I don’t think Wren will pick up Hudson’s option unless he can offset it with cuts elsewhere (or roughly so).
Efrim
July 28th, 2009
12:11 pm
Vazquez does strike hitters out. So if you go with Hudson, you’re back to having a lot less strikeouts in your rotation. I guess that doesn’t really matter to some, and that’s okay, but you better play some great defense behind that staff, because a lot of balls will be in play. I guess it will keep the infield fresh, right?
BravesfaninWis
July 28th, 2009
12:12 pm
Jaglawyer
July 28th, 2009
12:08 pm
MFin04
July 28th, 2009
11:49 am
Braves need to see what it takes to get Adrian Gonzalez. Perfect fit for the Braves.
———
Not sure Wren would want to deal with Towers again after the Peavy debacle but I would think the Padres would probably start with Tommy Hanson, Jason Heyward and Freeman for Gonzalez.
I think I’ll pass . . .
I’m with you on this one.. While I would love to see Gonzalez playing 1st base for the Braves, no way I would give up that package of young and future stars of this organization for him.. Those guys are just to special of talents to trade for anyone..
Homer
July 28th, 2009
12:12 pm
FIRE DOB!!!
KC
July 28th, 2009
12:12 pm
chc4: “Trade Kawakami? Who do you suppose wants a 34 yr old rookie making $8mm per year through 2011? That’s totally unrealistic. Like it or not he’s a part of this staff for the length of the contract. He’s serviceable so I’m okay with it but clearly he’s not what we had hoped.”
With all due respect, you’re wrong.
A rough April, before making the necessary adjustments to MLB is understandable. And since May 1, Kawakami’s ERA is 3.20. Since the 1st of May, Kawakami has been EXACTLY what the Braves had hoped for. They weren’t expecting him to be an ace here… just a quality starter. And he has certainly been that.
And if he keeps pitching the way he has for the last 3 months, there will be PLENTY of teams that would love to have him for about 15 million total for the next 2 seasons.
Efrim
July 28th, 2009
12:13 pm
The Braves shouldn’t have interest in Freddy Sanchez. Not worth the 8 million dollar price tag he carries next year, in my opinion. Especially not, when you consider the other options currently on the team.
Steve from OH
July 28th, 2009
12:14 pm
Great discussions this morning! First off, a shout-out to BAS, hilariously entertaining stuff to read after a morning of dull work. I’ll second his shout-out to the bloggers of the not-so-distant past. Anyhoo, my take on the Hudson/Vazquez stuff is this:
We have to be absolutely certain about Huddy before we do anything, first and foremost. I agree with x-BFIR that if he’s at 80% or whatever, he’s a marginal big-leaguer. I also agree with flange1 that Vazquez will probably continue to pitch well here because he likes it here. If I had to choose between them, I’d take Huddy at this point, because, like KC says, we can control where Vazquez goes, and we can receive player currency in return, whereas we’d get zippo for Hudson. Sure, I’d love to keep ‘em both, but with our payroll I don’t think that’s possible. If we could though…we’d be tough. But, we’ve got a long way to go yet, and I definitely think the off-season is the best time to decide this question.
Now, when will Paul Lentz roll out of bed and give us The Truth?
BravesFanChris24
July 28th, 2009
12:15 pm
True Efrim, but Pirates said that they would eat some of the 8 Million.
I’d go after a Willingham/Cody Ross type before asking about Sanchez.
PWHjort
July 28th, 2009
12:15 pm
Here’s a little nugget. Marquis leads the Rockies in wins, but according to xFIP, he’s their worst starter.
Rockies’ Starters xFIP:
1. Ubaldo Jimenez – 3.68
2. Jorge de la Rosa – 3.73
3. Jason Hammel – 3.94
4. Aaron Cook – 4.09
5. Jason Marquis – 4.32
Fish Bisch
July 28th, 2009
12:16 pm
Nolasco is 5-2 with a 2.73 ERA since June 7, averaging 10.3 strikeouts per nine innings. As Santana and Zito have proved, all it takes is good pitching to shut you guys down.
McFann ;Ô;
July 28th, 2009
12:16 pm
RHR Oh and Wayne? My son is 6′2″ and we (me) asked for McFann first.
Oh wow…awkward moment.
Efrim
July 28th, 2009
12:16 pm
I actually agree with KC on Kawakami. If you want the best rotation possible, why not entertain offers for Kenshin? Kawakami is owed 7.3 million, Hudson 12, Vazquez 11.5. Braves are really going to worry about a 5 million dollar difference? I’d try to deal Kawakami first, and I wouldn’t worry about rotation depth in 2011. Long ways away.
monty
July 28th, 2009
12:17 pm
Jeff R
“KK is the weak link in the rotation.”
Maybe so , but is that a bad thing? It’s kind of like saying he’s the weakest hitter on the team, but he hits .290 with decent power when everyone else on the team is in the .300’s with greater power. So my point is weakest in comparison to who? JJ great year, JV great year, Lowe very good year, HAnson remarkable rookie year. So yeh, I guess he is the weakest link, but you make it sound like a bad thing. If you look at JJ’s numbers from last year they are almost identical with KK’s numbers this year. Last year we were tickled pink to have JJ, why not the same excitement with KK? Rookie in the league, different baseball, different smaller strike zone, learning hitters tedenciies and weaknesses, language barrier, sheesh!! Give him a break, with a little run support this year we wouldn’t even be having this conversation
PWHjort
July 28th, 2009
12:17 pm
Steve from OH,
Well, Paul Lentz may give you “The Truth”. But “The Truth” insists:
“TRADE SORIANO
TRADE GONZALEZ
TRADE VAZQUEZ
Get back prospects that can help in 2010 and beyond.”
Funny, I haven’t seen him around lately.
ellaguru
July 28th, 2009
12:18 pm
Chopdawg: flangebox got in touch with me about your vinyl. I’m at don@ellaguru.com if you’d like to get in touch. Collections like these are hard to value–classical, opera, big band and good old Mantovani/101 Strings/Mitch Miller ain’t worth much if anything and it’s what that generation generally listened to. Hopefully your relative had an adventurous streak in him and–most importantly–took care of his records. I love to dig through old stuff, though–drop a line if you’d like.
Efrim
July 28th, 2009
12:18 pm
In regards to my last post, I meant it by this coming offseason. Can’t trade anyone in the rotation right now. Can’t afford it.
PWHjort
July 28th, 2009
12:18 pm
Why not just keep the rotation depth? It’s not like you have to move a starter if you have 6. Just keep the depth intact unless you can find a deal that makes you better now and in the future.
Piedmont Blues (ex-BFIR)
July 28th, 2009
12:19 pm
I don’t get the Sanchez rumors, either. I see him as an older, much more expensive version of Prado who has a somewhat better glove.
Steve from OH
July 28th, 2009
12:19 pm
Efrim, I agree on trading KK, but I don’t think it’ll happen. Of course, I should know never to put anything past Wren, but…
Jeff R
July 28th, 2009
12:20 pm
KC…
Not arguing your point. But Kawakami is a five inning pitcher. He has improved, no doubt. I do think your right: Teams in need of a fifth starter could do a lot worse. If the Braves didn’t have a shot at the Wild Card, I’d be awfully tempted to shop Kawakami before deadline. I think he could fetch a very good prospect or two.
The Sanchez buzz also puzzles me. Prado has played solidly offensively and defensively, and his price tag is dirt cheap. Why would Wren take on a second baseman making $8 million?
Braves need to shore up the middle inning relief. If any deals are made, I’d bet that’s where to look.
Nate
July 28th, 2009
12:21 pm
If the Braves could find somebody willing to take on Lowe’s contract they should definitely pull the trigger, even if it means getting next to nothing in return. Maybe if the team falls out of contention in August they could put him on waivers and somebody would bit.
Efrim
July 28th, 2009
12:21 pm
I wonder what Michael Wuertz would cost? Don’t the A’s want to contend moving forward? Isn’t he controlled through 2011? Seems a little strange to me.
Steve from OH
July 28th, 2009
12:22 pm
Efrim–yeah, I think the Sanchez thing is bogus, myself…doesn’t make much sense…
UNCBrave
July 28th, 2009
12:23 pm
Efrim,
Letting Mike Gonzales go makes up for the $5 million difference….Has Sanchez ever played OF?? I can see him in RF maybe while Diaz/Anderson platoon in LF and trade Church for a reliever
RC
July 28th, 2009
12:24 pm
Nate,
Why on earth would the Braves try to get rid of Lowe? Would you like this team to never be able to sign another free agent? Cause that’s what would happen if you trade a guy who just signed a 4 year contract and is having a decent, if not spectacular, year.
RHR
July 28th, 2009
12:24 pm
I love Adrian Gonzalez but I don’t want to give up what it would take to get him. No way.
I only want to get rid of KK, KJ, Norton, maybe Church and Krotchy and maybe a couple bullpen guys NOT named Medlen, Gonzalez, MFIKY, or Moylan.
Jeff R
July 28th, 2009
12:24 pm
monty…
The difference is that Jurrjens is a kid. Even with his great numbers this year, he’s got a lot of upside potential. Kawakami is 33 years-old. I doubt he’s going to get any better than he is now.
I agree that he’s a better fifth starter than some teams 3rd or 4th starters, but my bigger point was that all the talk of shipping off Vazquez while retaining Kawakami’s services makes no sense.
ellaguru
July 28th, 2009
12:25 pm
On, yeah, chopdawg: is there also some stereo gear? Might want to have a look at that, too. And O’Brien: now you got a record swap going. Is this a great blog or what?
Steve from OH
July 28th, 2009
12:25 pm
Man, and if the Nats’ pitching was bad before, Jordan Zimmermann just got DL’ed, Olsen is back on the DL, and Ross Detwiler got sent back to the minors. Ouch. Calling Stephen Strasburg…
Efrim
July 28th, 2009
12:25 pm
Steve from OH, if we get to this offseason and have enough money to have Lowe(15 m), Vazquez(11.5 m) and Hudson(12 m) in the rotation, then I am all for seeing if a team would trade for Kawakami. I’m not sure we’d get too much in return, but I’d bet there are a handful of GM’s that would be interested in him. And I’d bet we wouldn’t have to eat any salary. It’s not like the guy has been bad. He has been pretty darn good since May 1st.
By the way, if your boy Adam Milligan starts to walk, we may have something.
Flat Bill Kid
July 28th, 2009
12:25 pm
Fish Bisch, the other “reasons” are Nolasco? That is again only one reason. And it surely is a joke.
monty
July 28th, 2009
12:27 pm
THink FW is going to trade off his star pitcher and roll the dice on another recontructed pitcher in his 30’s. I wouldn’t be so sure about that. He got egg on his face for relying on injured pitchers making it back or staying healthy before. I think he learned his lesson. I really don’t forsee Huddy coming back and being lights out this year. Therefore he would be a risk for almost the same amount of money as a sure thing in Javy. Huddy was very good pitcher but one who really had to have his A game to win. He didn’t always have it, even before he was hurt.
Shamus Thacker
July 28th, 2009
12:28 pm
Anybody know the exact # of years, days, hours, minutes, and seconds, till Slippery Media can sell to Mr Blank?
We need one’a them countdown thangs…
TnBrian
July 28th, 2009
12:28 pm
“The Braves are in heavier pursuit of a more under-the-radar, unidentified option”…reminds me of the show unsolved mysteries.
dogsbrekky
July 28th, 2009
12:28 pm
Dobi One Knobi – have you heard about us trading Gonzo for Aceves and another Yankee or 2 ?
I have heard this from a Yankees insider but there is zippo on the rumor mill websites etc.
Fish Bisch
July 28th, 2009
12:28 pm
Ramirez leads the league in hitting, how is that a joke?
flange1
July 28th, 2009
12:28 pm
Chopdawg,
I think DOB will agree with me that Don at Ella Guru is a great guy and will be very fair with you. His eBay site is always full of cool stuff.
Give him a shout!
Steve from OH
July 28th, 2009
12:29 pm
But–I should point out–I have a feeling that KK will be DL’ed before the end of the season for shoulder pain. I’ve read a few comments from Bobby that suggest it’s bothering him a bit.
Wayne in Utah
July 28th, 2009
12:29 pm
McFann
Don’t pay any attention to her!
We are both just drooling over the fact that we would love for our son(s) to find someone like you someday; witty, articulate, funny, etc. etc.
(I called first dibs!!!)
PWHjort
July 28th, 2009
12:32 pm
I was almost hoping the game would be on Peach Pit TV tonight because I hate it when Boog is anywhere near the Marlins.
Piedmont Blues (ex-BFIR)
July 28th, 2009
12:33 pm
Fisch Bisch,
Hanley is a monster. He’s the position player I’d most like to have to build around (even more than Albert the Machine). Enjoy him while you have him.
Flat Bill Kid
July 28th, 2009
12:33 pm
Fish Bisch,
This is from the ESPN gurus. I know they arent always the most intelligent but the numbers don’t lie.
“Nolasco is 5-2 with a 2.73 ERA since June 7, averaging 10.3 strikeouts per nine innings. He’s been anything but dominant against Atlanta, however. Nolasco posted a 10.57 ERA in three losses to the Braves in 2008, allowing 10 homers in 15 1/3 innings.”
Piedmont Blues (ex-BFIR)
July 28th, 2009
12:34 pm
monty (12:27),
Well said.
monty
July 28th, 2009
12:35 pm
I don’t believe KK is going anywhere. He’s relatively inexpensive for what he gives you. If a deal could be made somehow Medlen I feel sure could step in and give you something similar to KK. BUt if I was a GM I would rather have Medlen than KK just based on the money and the age difference. So I believe KK is staying.