1:42 pm July 26, 2009, by Carroll Rogers
Rob from SC
July 27th, 200910:38 pm
Kendry Morales would look good on our team.
July 27th, 200910:39 pm
Anders, do you really want Minaya to gut what’s left of the farm system after the Putz trade and not getting a 1st rounder this year due to K-Rod? I mean, the farm is stretched pretty thin and you don’t have any decent players except at CF, 3B, and SS. Plus behind Santana, you’ve got a few right-handed finesse pitchers and a very bad left-hander. The season is lost at this point. Pulling off any sort of blockbuster trade that sends a big-name to the Mets is exactly the opposite of what Minaya needs to do.
July 27th, 2009
Reports that the Phillies /Jays Halladay talks not going well. You know what would make Met fans forget todays disaster press conference? Halladay showing up in the home locker room. Come on Wilpon – you owe us for Minaya’s debacle!!
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Halliday has a no-trade clause and will only approve a trade to a contender…sorry Anders
“I’m having a lot of fun. Probably the most fun I’ve had in a long time.”
Frenchy after the game. He’s hitting .327 as a Met with 15 RBI’s in 13 games.
July 27th, 200910:42 pm
PWHjort – Halladay and Santana at the top of the rotation. K-rod to close. Beltran, Reyes and Wright in their prime. Playing in that large park. I make the move and take my chances.
July 27th, 200910:44 pm
Well…that blows….2-0 Phi.
Minaya looks real bad right now
Ryan Howard hits a 2 run jack……..2-0 Phillies, top of the 4th.
Steve from OH
July 27th, 200910:45 pm
Anders–you might want to find a few OF that can go get the ball, too…
Eric from MO
July 27th, 200910:48 pm
Turn he is hitting .320 with RISP. If he isnt hitting with runners on, then I dont know who is.
July 27th, 200910:49 pm
Steve -Beltran’s a GG’er and Frenchy’s been fine. Left’s been a chore but you can’t have everything. Well unless you’re the Yanks!
July 27th, 200910:50 pm
TurnThePage (July 27th, 2009 10:05 pm): “Anders, next time the Braves need a big hit try ripping the batter who’s up. I did it yesterday when Casey Kotchman came up with two runners on. I told my wife, ‘Well, that’s the end of that. This guy NEVER hits with runners on.’ He promptly hit one of the longest home runs I have seen by a Braves player this season. My wife’s response. ‘He hit it that time! He showed you.’ “
Rather than posit some kind of contra-nega-jinx, Occam’s razor suggests that you were simply mistaken in your recollection of Kotchman’s previous performances.
12 Apr v WAS, Braves up 7-5, bottom 8th, Kotchman singles in Braves’ 8th (insurance) run;
15 Apr v FLO, Braves down 4-1, bottom 5th, 0 outs, Kotchman doubles to drive in Braves’ 2nd run;
19 Apr @ PIT, Braves up 2-0, bottom 1st, 2 outs, Kotchman singles in Braves’ 3rd run;
21 Apr @ WAS, 0-0, top 1st, Kotchman doubles in Braves’ 1st run, scores Braves’ 3rd run;
7 May @ FLO — Braves win 4-2, Kotchman 3 for 4 (1B, 2B, HR), 2 RBIs, 1 R;
8 May @ PHI, Braves down 10-3, top 9th, 0 out, Kotchman hits 3-R HR;
10 May @ PHI — Braves win 4-2, Kotchman 3 for 5 (1B, 2 2Bs), 3 RBIs;
11 May @ NYN, Braves up 3-1, top 7th, 2 out, Kotchman singles in Braves’ 4th & 5th runs;
12 May @ NYN, 0-0, top 4th, 2 out, Kotchman singles in Braves’ 1st run;
19 May v COL, 0-0, bottom 1st, Kotchman doubles, scores Braves 1st run;
Braves up 2-0, bottom 2nd, Kotchman singles in Braves 3rd run;
22 May v TOR — Braves win 1-0, Kotchamn 1-3 (1B), 1 RBI;
23 May v TOR — Braves win 4-3, Kotchman 1 for 4 (2B), 2 RBIs;
25 May @ SFN, Braves down 3-1, top 6th, 1 out, Kotchman walks “driving” in Braves 2nd run;
27 May @SFN, Braves down 2-0, top 6th, Kotchman singles in Braves’ 1st run;
28 May @ ARI, Braves down 5-1, top 8th, Kotchman singles in Braves’ 2nd run;
18 Jun @ CIN, 0-0, top 2nd, Kotchman SF “drives” in Braves’ 1st run;
25 Jun v NYA, Braves down 8-1, bottom 4th, Kotchman doubles in Braves’ 2nd & 3rd runs, scores Braves’ 4th run;
2 Jul v PHI, 0-0, bottom 4th, Kotchman homers driving in Braves’ 1st 2 runs.
So, I think your wife was right. You would be wise to adopt this position.
July 27th, 200910:54 pm
Anders–IMO Frenchy has average range and while I liked Beltran coming into this year defensively a LOT, he’ll be 33 in 2010 and coming off some pretty serious knee problems, and I can’t say I’m as bullish on the projections of his defense going forward, especially on that huge field, which will be more taxing on his knees than usual.
July 27th, 200910:56 pm
Steve – Thats fair. Going forward I think the Mets will get more athletic type outfielders but outfield defense really hasn’t been a problem this year.
If they don’t trade Fernando Martinez I could see him in CF next year and beltran moving to left.
July 27th, 200911:00 pm
Any chance of them promoting Valdez or Nunez instead of making a trade?
July 27th, 200911:02 pm
Yeah, I had forgotten about F-Mart Anders, but IIRC the report on him is average range. Martinez/Beltran/Frenchy shouldn’t be terrible, and maybe I overstated, but they’d do well to get a Ryan Langerhans/Nyjer Morgan type 4th OF that can really go get it.
July 27th, 200911:06 pm
Steve- I like that Nyjer Morgan as a 4th. Endy Chavez like.
July 27th, 200911:09 pm
D-backs have to be kicking themselves in the a$$ right now. They have Moyer on the ropes a couple of times and let him off.
braves fan lmh
I wish frank wren would find a way to trade for Josh Willingham. He is a right handed power hitting outfielder who can play both of the corner outfield spots. When healthy that guy can flat out hit. He would be a nice addition to the outfield for this year and next.
Frank from KS (now living in CO)
July 27th, 200911:10 pm
I can’t remember who said it…but someone mentioned that maybe Freeman will be our K-Rod when the Angels brought him up in 02 or whenever it was they brough him up to be the closer.
Ummm…that might be because at that time, the Angels had Troy Percival as their closer and he was declining.
Dang, Turn the Page just got blog-served!
July 27th, 200911:14 pm
Don’t know if anybody’s pointed it out yet, but Jordan Schafer’s doing some first base coaching at Gwinnett….at least he was tonight.
July 27th, 200911:15 pm
jeffrey–maybe the scouts have decided that he projects better as a 3rd-base coach? I think Snitker is an upcoming FA…
July 27th, 200911:19 pm
Hopefully he doesn’t 3rd base coach at the Major League level like he hits.
You mean Snitker isn’t arb-eligible? We could non-tender him at season’s end and call up Schafer to take his place if he is. He’d get a little too much in arbitration.
July 27th, 200911:21 pm
He’d probably take his stance facing the dugout, give Kotchman the steal home sign, etc.
July 27th, 200911:22 pm
jeff–Kotch would probably give him the finger across the diamond for that…the dude looks like he’s about to die after running hard for a while.
July 27th, 200911:24 pm
Looks like the Braves will lose ground to the Phillies tonight….again. On the bright side, gained ground on Colorado.
NO MORE BOBBY
July 27th, 200911:34 pm
Phillies are winning AGAIN. I never thought us sweeping them would be a bad thing but it woke that team up and we ended up not even gaining any ground after that Nats series (which still bugs me – Gonzo stinks).
July 27th, 200911:35 pm
Cubs just don’t want to win tonight and no one seems to want to beat the Phillies. Our best chance to make the postseason is probably the wild card. Central is a tight race and I don’t see anyone really pulling away in that division. Just think they will continue to beat up on each other. Phils and Dodgers both have big leads in their divisions and look to have a good chance of holding on. The way things look now, I really don’t see a team in the NL that looks like it could be dominate in the postseason. The Dodgers have a great record but they have looked ordinary since the all-star break. The phillies offense is clicking on all cylinders but their pitching still remains the same. Cole Hamels isn’t as good as last year and when Jamie Moyer isn’t taking advantage of youthful lineups like the Marlins and D-backs things look bad. Blanton has been better, probably their best pitcher now and I don’t see Lopez keeping it up. If they end up getting Halladay they are the runaway favorites. I know the Blue Jays asked for a lot but with him they wouldn’t only be the favorites this year but next year also.
July 27th, 200911:36 pm
Anders, Jeff is having the most fun he’s had in a long time mainly because he’s a selfish player who seems to be concerned about HIS numbers, not neccessarily how his team is doing. That’s the impression I got from Jeff. It seemed like he had his face blasted in front of a camera when he had a good game regardless whether or not his team won.
Why would you take the bat out of Frenchy’s hands.
Haha!! That’s the funniest thing I’ve read in a while…
July 27th, 200911:45 pm
“Anders, Jeff is having the most fun he’s had in a long time mainly because he’s a selfish player who seems to be concerned about HIS numbers, not neccessarily how his team is doing. That’s the impression I got from Jeff. It seemed like he had his face blasted in front of a camera when he had a good game regardless whether or not his team won.”
I don’t think he is necessarily selfish, just don’t think he deals well with adversity. Everything came so well to Jeff in his life. He wants to make stuff happen but he doesn’t go about it the right way. That’s why the Mets scouting report said 0-2 when he steps in the box. He’s always trying to make something happen. Didn’t have the patience to wait anything out. That aggressiveness usually doesn’t work well in baseball. Pitchers often use it against you. When he figures out how to quell that, he’s got a chance to become a 100 rbi guy again. Till then pitchers are going to keep picking on him.
July 27th, 200911:46 pm
Randall Delgado struck out 10 for Rome tonight. Adam Milligan hit his fifth home run.
July 27th, 200911:47 pm
Efrim–good to hear! Glad to see my dude Milligan hitting well lately. And glad to see Delgado get his ERA under 5…
July 27th, 200911:57 pm
Soriano granny for the Cubs win!
July 28th, 200912:07 am
Wayne in Utah
July 28th, 200912:10 am
Your 9:46 was funny. Woulda been funnier if you’d picked Efrim or Steve or N8 or somebody else, but funny still.
(but don’t kid yourself, you have the data)
July 28th, 200912:11 am
We only have 1 problem and it is called………….RAUL IBAÑEZ.
We had our chance to get him and we let him go………..its kind of like the curse of the bambino.
July 28th, 200912:14 am
Come on Bravos———–dont give in, we can still get them and if not, WC will be our in the process and then we will show the phillies in the NLCS whos the boss in the east and in the NL.
July 28th, 200912:15 am
If Frank Wren and co.think this team as constructed are going to make any playoffs, then somebody has lost their damn minds! there is still a desperate need for a righthanded power hitter on this slub, and as constructed the Braves will most likely be home for the playoffs.
Somebody should wake up in the F.O. and at least make an attempt for Konerko,Rios, Lind, or Scott, but don’t be fooled by the offense lately, these guys have proven that they are prone to disappear much to often this year!
July 28th, 200912:16 am
At least StL, SF and COL………the teams in front of us are not as hot as the phillies, and not as hot as us.
July 28th, 200912:17 am
Phillies are friggin unreal-can they keep this up? wow
July 28th, 200912:18 am
The Braves can still catch the Phillies. They need to be within 4 games or so with 20 to play. The Braves have a big schedule advantage over the Phillies the last 20 games & 3 head to heads with the Phillies during that span. It can be done, but they do need to cut into that lead a little over the next month & 1/2.
Odds are the pitching staff will have a drop off, either By Hanson,Vazquez, or Kawakami, Lowe has had his already!
July 28th, 200912:20 am
A very nice tweak might be B.jones, joJo, and Bueno for Adam Lind.
Before y’all go all crazy on Konerko, check out his home/away splits and his lefty/righty splits. He’s not providing as much “RH pop” away from that Chicago bandbox as you think, definitely not enough to warrant the cost in dollars and prospects that we’d have to give up.
July 28th, 200912:21 am
Or maybe Ricciardi thinks all of his players are worth fort knox, ummm if they were then I would think the Jays would be closer to first that firesale.
July 28th, 200912:22 am
My personal choice would be Lind from Toronto
July 28th, 200912:23 am
That wont happen, cause Cox has keep them under 105 pitches almost every time out.
I wonder if Jesse Orosco can still bring it?
Joebrave there is no way that would be enough for a young cost controlled power hittting outfielder. Josh Willingham is a more realistic target as he wouldn’ cost as much in prospects.
July 28th, 200912:24 am
No way Toronto takes our trash for one of their best players.
I dunno Doc, I just have this feeling, that if Wren stands pat, it will back fire severely!
July 28th, 200912:25 am
Hell give em Shafer if that will do the trick, Willingham??? I don’t know
July 28th, 200912:26 am
Yeah. You don’t know.
July 28th, 200912:27 am
I would’nt consider JoJo trash just yet, A change and getting away from Bobby might turn the kid into Zane Smith.
July 28th, 200912:28 am
Just saying I am not overly impressed with Willingham.
July 28th, 200912:29 am
However if Wren is smart he will at least make a play for Sherrill, I’m tellin ya He is going to need him next year. No way Soriano, or Gonzo returns.
Willingham has 16 homeruns on the season and he would have more r.b.i.’s but he plays for the nationals. He is a pretty patient hitter also.
Why does everyone who wants to see Wren make a thousand trades think JoJo has any trade value. I’m sure the GMs are blowing his phone up for JoJo, Brandon Jones, and Manny Acosta.
July 28th, 200912:30 am
Why are some of you convinced the Braves need a big right handed bat to make the playoffs? Granted, it would be nice to have, but the Braves can’t take on much salary from all reports I’ve read.
They have the pitching right now to make the playoffs & win once they are there. The question is will the offense continue to provide the run support it has recently? I would say there is a better than average chance it will. Even with Chipper or McCann sitting out the team still manages to score runs. When has that ever happened in recent years?
I think it’s obvious that since Wren removed the three automatic outs the team has sparked. McLouth was a great addition as was inserting Prado for KJ. I do believe KJ will provide a lot of offense the rest of the season. His trip to AAA seemed to have really got him going & hopefully it continues.
Phils finish of the snakes…at least the Rockies lost.
I don’t think your going to see any real moves this year. I could be wrong. But for all the reasons you state, it’s still a long shot for us to make the playoffs, but I don’t want to see us mortgaging the future for a slim chance.
Just my two cents….
July 28th, 200912:31 am
Maybe Jo Jo, Schafer, and Medlen for Lind.
July 28th, 200912:32 am
I think if they added Konerko,or Lind along with a Sherrill type there is a greater chance this year and beyond, but no way on dealing Heyward or Freeman.
July 28th, 200912:33 am
Please consider money in these trades. Being a GM isn’t as easy as you seem to think.
Agreed wholeheartedly Wayne.
As far as relievers go what about one of the many relievers that the bluejays seem willing to listen on? Bluejays want to cut salary and the jays have a few relievers who are due a raise of over a million in arbitration next year
July 28th, 200912:35 am
Baseball is so cyclical, but I am sick of seeing, and hearing about the Philthies and Mutts, it’s about as tiring as hearing Tim freakin Tebow every time I turn on the tube!
July 28th, 200912:37 am
Okay owl, here is the money- If you remove Kelly Johnson 3= mil next year, Gonzalz 6+ mil next year, and Kotchman 4+ mill next year that comes to what 13 mil, Konerko makes 12 so that saves1 mil. and drop Loaf and his 2 mil
not to mention on of Hudson, or Vazquez will surely be gone so there is another 11.5 to 12 mill gone
July 28th, 200912:38 am
Now about the money?
Joebrave, why would the braves want to trade a young #3 type starter in medlin along with the center fielder of the future in schafer in the same deal? For arguements sake, if the braves did put both of them in a trade don’t you think the braves would want to get someone like Joey Votto or an outfielder like Justin Upton
Wayne–I agree! No sense in mortgaging the future at this point. I don’t mind seeing a minor trade, but IMHO, these minor league players need to be kept in the organization:
Heyward, Freeman, Schafer, Teheran, Kimbrel and Gearrin. I’d also be loath to trade more than one of the group of young pitchers in Rome and Danville, with Rohrbough and Thompson from MB joining that group.
So whats next with Huddie? after todays outing, whats his schedule?
What about infante?
At least we didnt lose today LOL
July 28th, 200912:39 am
What about this current season? We can’t add payroll THIS season.
July 28th, 200912:40 am
Not being unreasonable just saying it can be done without a salary hike.
Say wren deals gonzo to LAD, for two specs, then flips Kotch, and the specs to Chisox for Konerko,
then deals K.J. JoJo, Shafer, and Bueno to Bal for Sherrill, and say Meredith.
I would think the only salary he’s taking on is about 2 mil? He has around 5 to play with
We need no one …………what we need is for the phillies to lose, but NL pitching is so bad that no one but us and some 2 or 3 other staff can hold them in check, so they feast on the rest.
July 28th, 200912:42 am
I’d rather have Lind over Upton. he is closer to being another Nelson Cruz.
I read today that the twins lost one of the young starters to wrist surgery. I wonder since the twins are in the playoff hunt and need a bullpen arm, middle infielder and possibly another starter, if the braves wouldn’t see if the twins would be intersted in kelly johnson, a young cost controlled reliever like acosta, or logan, plus a prospect, for say either jason kubel, or denard span?
July 28th, 200912:43 am
Shafer centerfielder of the future? mcLouth has four more years on his deal. I think Shafer is better suited plying his learning trade in another uni, Dude just ain’t that good!
July 28th, 200912:44 am
We had our chance to get him and we let him go… (DOC)
he was available but we really didn’t have a shot at getting him. no way they were give him a contract like that.
None of this will happen. You can’t just blow up a team that’s doing well, and other teams may not comply with your wishes. If any of these trades happen before THIS season’s deadline, I will come back to the blog that day and apologize. I promise.
Precisely why you trade a guy like Medlen, he projects to be that everywhere but with the Braves
July 28th, 200912:45 am
Schafer did struggle but part of that is because of the wrist injury. Not all of it but with the injury he probably tried to adjust and messed up his swing some and then it became mental for the rookie.
July 28th, 200912:46 am
Not blowing up adding to, there is a difference. but okay when the offense rears it’s ugly head once again, we shall see who cries for the big stick.
If we keep trading our young prospects every year, we may as well be the Pirates. How has that worked out for them?
July 28th, 200912:47 am
I don’t. Schafer’s glove and arm are exceptional. That’s a lot of value right there that can play right away. His bat, IMO, projects as at least average, with a pretty good chance of being plus. He’s young, cheap, athletic, runs well, can steal bases, can be a legit presence at the top of your lineup. These are the kinds of players you want on your team.
If you will notice the core stays intact, and the security blanket called Sherrill is in place for next year.
July 28th, 200912:49 am
There is one difference between the Braves and the Pirates, the Braves actually have scouts that know what the hell they are doing.
a young #3 type starter in medlin (Braves Fam lmh)
I don’t believe for a second that will happen
I suppose most of you already know this but since KJ came back, he is:
4 for 5 + 3 runs + 2 2B + 2RBI + 1HR +1K +1BB
July 28th, 200912:50 am
I will not “cry for the big stick” in any facet of life. If the offense doesn’t get it done, that sucks, but we’ve been blowing up our minors for a while, and it has to stop. Sometimes players need a chance to work through things, and it appears that some of ours have. You can’t make a trade the second someone goes 0 for 4. Except in video games.
Brad Komminsk was supposed to project out too, but see what he was.
Joebrave you say that medlin doesn’t project in the braves rotation. Ok, next year you will have jurrjens, hanson, lowe, vazquez/kawakami, and possibly hudson. If hudson ends up leaving hypothetically due to the 12 million dollar option then you are an injury away of needing a starter, i.e., medlin
July 28th, 200912:52 am
I didn’t see anything in what I proposed attributing to blowing up the minors.
Parr, Rohrbough, etc what about these guys?
July 28th, 200912:53 am
This is not the same team that squandered all those good pitching performances. We have a good chance to make the playoffs as is. Besides a lot of people think the best bat that we could acquire already is in our system(Heyward). I doubt he will be up this year but I think what people are trying to say is that there isn’t really much out there to get and giving up something won’t be worth what we are getting back. Keep things the way they are, use the offseason to make trades and moves as we need them.
Agree with what you said.
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