1:42 pm July 26, 2009, by Carroll Rogers
Steve from OH
July 27th, 20092:10 pm
N8, well put. I disagree on Anderson, though. While he has been heating up lately, he’s still been, overall, slightly-below-average with the stick, and well below that in the field. Like I said, he’s been doing much better lately, but you’ve gotta look at the whole body of work. He was absolutely atrocious during the beginning of the season, and that’s when he would’ve helped us most by playing even average ball, because the offense was stuggling so bad. In any case, if he keeps this up, he’ll be above-average and this point will probably be moot (except for the defense), but I don’t wanna hear about how “clutch” he is, for the aforementioned reason.
July 27th, 20092:11 pm
How about those Philly fans rubbing out a dissenting fan making a visit at the local watering hole? When taking in a game at a visiting MLB ballpark one needs to know the temperment of the local meatheads. Fans in other cities aren`t as nice as the ones we have here.
OK don’t throw things at me but I found this amusing after seeing it posted elsewhere –
Amusedly, Francoeur revealed that Mets pitching coach Dan Warthen showed him part of the Mets scouting report on him, from when the right fielder was on the opposition. “Even thought I didn’t want to see it,” Francoeur quipped. The gist? “0-2 when he steps in the box,” Francoeur said with a laugh.
Nova Scotia Steve
July 27th, 20092:12 pm
I wonder if we’ll see a new blog today?
July 27th, 20092:13 pm
Excuse me, “average-or-slightly-above” bat, not slightly below…
July 27th, 20092:15 pm
n8 regarding your 2:00 post:
Agreed. Smoltz as a future GM would work out about as well as Michael Jordan has as a GM.
Living down here in the Golden Isles, all of us are still shaking our heads that Kwame Brown was picked #1 overall. Unbelievable.
ncscoots (a.ka. ncpooper)……….. you keep being on the wrong side of the issues, which is where you feel comfortable residing. Clean up your “pooper” act, then get back to me.
July 27th, 20092:19 pm
fastasballs…………I agree with your 6:11pm posting last night comparing the effect that Ryan Church has had on our line-up. However, you also have to fact in Matt Diaz’s impact as well when he plays right field against left handers.
I think that a better comparison would be to compate Diaz AND Church’s numbers (when both have played right field) to Francoeur’s numbers with the Mets. Comparing Francoeur’s with Church’s isnt a fair indication because Diaz plays against left handers in right field (whereas he would be playing left if Francouer was still with the Braves, meaning that Garret would be sitting).
July 27th, 20092:20 pm
N8 I second your props for Wren, he has done well and made a lot of tough and sometimes unpopular decisions. I think he does what he believes will be the best for the Braves almost no matter what the popular opinion is.
Unfortunately, I have a feeling that if KJ remains on this team that Prado will not have much margin for error. I am talking about any kind of little slump and we could easily see KJ back in as starter, perhaps at first as a platoon with Prado then KJ taking over if he proves he can still hit lefties. I still get the feeling that Prado is not as highly though of as KJ is.
To change topics, where all the people who complained about the Braves not signing Smoltz? Looks like Wren and company had it right. He is stealing money from Baston. Guess we won’t get to hear Smoltzie cry and moan about being disrespected anymore.
Richbrave: Personally, I was expecting a .310 average and 17 – 22 HR’s. I suppose that’s still possible, although I now realize those numbers would be great for him.
Wow. Pretty damn high expectations don’t you think . . .
Wayne in Utah
July 27th, 20092:22 pm
You really think the Braves will keep Diory Hernandez on the roster when Infante returns? (maybe you overlooked him?)
Actually, I will be surprised if Norton is still around in 2-3 weeks, unless he gets hot. But not to be replaced with Infante.
wonder if we would get a decent bat for KJ, Garrett, and maybe a young prospect maybe like a Kimbrell type(on the fringe of top 10)…I think Garrett could make a strong DH in the AL coupled with KJ and a solid young pitcher could be enough to get a decent hitter
July 27th, 20092:24 pm
Anyone have a link to the Gwinnett Braves radio broadcast?
July 27th, 20092:25 pm
Garrett is now a decent bat so why trade him? We won’t get a prospect good enough to warrant dealing him and lord knows we aren’t getting a MLB ready player for him and KJ.
July 27th, 20092:27 pm
Braveheart……………..in your 7:21pm posting last night, you failed to mention that when Garret was putting up those great numbers from 1999-2003………he was in the PRIME OF HIS CAREER. He was 27 in 1999. And he was pretty decent after 2003 to 2008.
If you look at his body type, it doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure out that dude probably never took PED’s. Up until about a year ago, he was pretty slender. However when you get older, you put on a few pounds. Plus Garret doesnt display the signs that you see with some of your roid users. It isnt like Garret’s cranium is bursting out like Bonds’ was.
Andrew in P-tang
so it looks like the braves wont make a big move according to buster olney..he says maybe a reliever..it sucks because the braves have a great staff and a great shot at october and we cant get that bat this year..if we had tex on this team wow would have been nasty
July 27th, 20092:29 pm
Ah. Game’s not til 7. I’m an idiot.
I think you will find that most teams with a bat to be had will be looking for a couple of prospects, and not players with any kind of major league salaries.
Unless KJ really gets it together, he will probably be non-tendered this winter.
I think you are correct. I still believe there might be some in the Braves organization who put an equally high value on KJ to Prado.
July 27th, 20092:30 pm
To the previous fan who said G. Anderson hasn`t made a bad play in LF. We could put anybody from the 25 man roster out there and they could do a better job of getting to the ball. And that includes C David Ross, P Peter Moylan, and P. Derrek Lowe. And least those guys would give it a little effort. Also, he definitly does not have a big-league arm. If he is in the line-up he HAS to put up big offensive numbers.
I see you are going back and telling guys who cleaned your clock yesterday that you want to continue today?
You are just a glutton for punishment!
July 27th, 20092:33 pm
me too, me too! (Random has all historical data to support my statements)
I was for not going higher in $$ for Smoltz.
I was for the Vazquez trade.
I was for the Lowe signing (and the Burnett signing before that, and the Peavy deal before that). I just wanted a top of the rotation guy.
I was for the Kawakami deal.
I was for the Garret Anderson signing, before I was against it, before I was for it again.
Frank, give me a call. We can work out the financial details later!
July 27th, 20092:35 pm
Can we hire Tony Bernazard?
flange1–I think Def Leppard says more about Paul Lentz than we ever can:
“And theres a lady over there shes acting pretty cool
But when it comes to playing life she always plays the fool
But its too late, too late, its too late (for Paul Lentz)”
July 27th, 20092:36 pm
Gwinnett Braves are on Comcast Sports Southeast at 7 pm tonight.
By the way… Does anyone have a clue what Hudson’s pitch count will be tonight? I can’t decide if it’s worth the 30-45 minute drive out to Gwinnett Stadium tonight, especially since they’re on TV.
Rob from SC ………..addressing your 9:21pm posting last night, it isnt that I “want” to see Kelly Johnson fail, it’s that I just dont see him having any consistency, nor being able to deliver in the clutch. Sure, in games like yesterday when the game is already in hand…..or last month in September when the Braves were way out of the race…..Kelly seems to do well. However, in the 8th inning with the bases loaded, 2 outs, Braves behind by 1 run…………..let’s see if Kelly can get the BIG HIT. Let’s see if Kelly can go on a hot streak when the games REALLY MATTER.
If Kelly can do that (to be honest, I would love to see him do it because it would help the Braves win), then I will get on here and say “I was wrong about him”. However, it is going to take MUCH MORE than 2 doubles and a homer in a blowout win to show me that I was wrong about him. MUCH MORE.
July 27th, 20092:37 pm
I really am Tony Bernazard. That Utah thing had you guys fooled, huh!
I dunno. If he ever tried that stunt with the D-Braves, RSF would show him no mercy…probably not a good career choice for him.
July 27th, 20092:38 pm
Thnks,sad. I was having a hard time figuring what to say in between laughs.
July 27th, 20092:40 pm
keylargo………….concerning your attempt to downplay Prado’s play the past week with your 9:23pm posting last night…………you FAILED to mention that Prado had RIPPED a number of balls in those games that were HIT RIGHT AT PEOPLE. It wasnt like he was striking out a lot and hitting a bunch of weak balls to short for outs. It just so happens that he was hitting them right at people.
But because those RIPS werent falling in for hits, does not mean that Prado is struggling. That is why “watching” how the player is swinging and making a “mental” note of what kind of out it was, goes MUCH FURTHER in determining how a player is playing, then ONLY by looking at the stats.
Hard to argue with a band that has a 1 armed drummer!
It looks like our boy is going to respond to every post that he didn’t respond to last night.
What a guy!!!!
RHR- Thanks. Is it on CSS tonight?
July 27th, 20092:41 pm
I am guessing 60-75. He’s scheduled to throw 4 innings and I’m guessing that translates to a 60-75 pitch limit.
Nvm. Been answered.
July 27th, 20092:42 pm
THWG Gwinnett Braves are on Comcast Sports Southeast at 7 pm tonight.
Huh…fat lotta good that does us folks with AT&T.
Hey, but it’s a good stadium, pretty good team to watch. I recommend visits.
Speaking of one-armed drummers, did you see the videos of the guy that plays the guitar with his feet? My God, he’s better with his feet than I am with my hands, LOL!
Is it me, or does Kotchman’s HR’s seem to all be bombs?? Last two have been LONG ones. He sure turned that one around yesterday.
Ever heard of LD%?
July 27th, 20092:46 pm
Trust me, McFann, you’re better off with AT&T, even if you don’t get CSS. My family has thought about switching many times. And yes, Gwinnett Stadium is very nice. I’ll probably head that way next time Huddy makes a start (6 days I guess?).
July 27th, 20092:49 pm
im not sure why, but it really annoys me how the red sox have unlimited means to go after everyone.
So guess who has the highest 3rd Order Winning Percentage in baseball? Yep, you guessed it. The Atlanta Braves – .615. 2nd highest? Boston – .600. 3rd? New York Yankees – .583. Yes, ladies and gentlemen, the 2009 Atlanta Braves are for real.
July 27th, 20092:51 pm
Kwame Brown #1 over-all – in a very strong draft!
And Adam Morrison #3, in a so-so draft.
Yes I have sen the guy that plays guitar with his feet. It is amazing to see and really makes me wonder why I try with my hands!!!
Here’s an interesting link about Kotchman’s HRs. You guys are right that most of his dingers are no doubters/plenty of distance. Only one of the 5 he’s hit was deemed to have “just enough” distance. While they haven’t analyzed yesterday’s HR, we can all agree that it was a shot.
July 27th, 20092:52 pm
Steve, I should have been more specific with my description of Loaf. He has been a perfect fit (in terms of dollar), as a stop gap until Heyward and Schafer are more ready. While adding Dunn might have been a popular choice, it didn’t make sense dollar-wise once all the pitching was added. But you all know where I stand on the pitching and the outfield help last off-season.
I think his first 10 games were so bad that it skewed his numbers a bit. That and with how bad everybody else was doing, it made him stand out since he was the “big” acquisition for the outfield. If you take those first 10 games out of the mix (believe me, I get that having a good hitter ready to play ball in those 10 games would have made a difference for this team), he’s hit .301 with his 7 HR and 37 RBI in the last 67 games.
Not earth-shattering numbers by any stretch, but pro-rated out, it would be about 16 HR and 89 RBI over 162 games. Which puts him on about pace for 14-15 HR and 80ish RBI. Pretty much what one should expect for a late 30’s outfielder that should be playing DH.
Wayne, yes, in fact I did overlook Diory. Forgot he was on the roster for some reason. He’ll surely be the one sent down when Infante is back, barring other injuries happening.
July 27th, 20092:53 pm
Good to see Paul reLentzless has come out swinging today . . .
July 27th, 20092:54 pm
Good to see Paul reLentzless has come out swinging today . . . (much harder than his 0-4 in the score box would appear)
July 27th, 20092:56 pm
Oh yeah, we like AT&T…even if it did take 10 days to get our cable/internet restored after a truck hit the box at the front of our neighborhood. (But that wasn’t so bad…in fact, it gave us a story to tell for the rest of our lives.)
I think it’ll be 6 days till his next start…hopefully we cann make it out there for one of them, too. Went to BMac’s rehab game, of course.
July 27th, 20092:59 pm
You could tell by a couple of swings that Kotch took prior to launching that bomb that he was trying to do so. So, without screwing his swing up, why doesn’t he try that more often. He has cranked some T shots. Well, only five of them, but they never seem to be cheap.
PWHjortSo guess who has the highest 3rd Order Winning Percentage in baseball?
what is 3rd order winning percentage?
July 27th, 20093:00 pm
I think the Jag(pretend)lawyer is one of Dense’s other screen names, on to support his point of view. I think he might have 5-6 other alias. Can’t be that many idiots that would actually encourage his bs.
I should have been more specific with my description of Loaf. He has been a perfect fit (in terms of dollar), as a stop gap until Heyward and Schafer are more ready.
Now this is a good argument and one that I can buy. I won’t buy, however (at this point) that he’s a good bat or an average player, because, like I’ve said before, statistically he’s average-ish with the bat and in the field…well…you know. It’s not that I take issue with your line of reasoning there, it is with the reasoning that he’s a really good hitter, which he’s not. Like I said earlier, the caveat is that if he continues at this torrid pace, he’ll be above-average come the end of the season, but, like Adam Dunn, I see him as a player whose lack of glove will negate any offensive benefit. I’ll admit that I was against his signing in the off-season, and while I certainly understand the reasoning behind it, and, at this point, they’ve probably paid fair market value for him and gotten a decent return, I still don’t think he’s been as big a boost to the club as many here think. Like I said, I prefer to look at as large of a sample size as I can, so I’m not wont to throw out any numbers willy-nilly (not Willy Wally).
July 27th, 20093:04 pm
DAP–try the link below. It’s a doozie…
McFann- I was at Mac’s rehab game too. Much fun.
DAP- It’s like first and second order Win%, but it takes into account strength of schedule. It’s known as a good predictor of future performance, moreso than second order (which takes into account only expected runs), and moreso than first order (which takes into account only true run differential). Basically, Sabermatricians think highly of third order win% as a better predictor than first and second order.
July 27th, 20093:07 pm
geez…ok, third order winning percentage. nice.
July 27th, 20093:08 pm
it really annoys me how the red sox have unlimited means to go after everyone.
So do the Mets and look where it got them.
July 27th, 20093:09 pm
why did dob block me i had to get on at a different place to comment
I never said anything bad???/
July 27th, 20093:11 pm
How do you know he blocked you?
Third in order winning percentage, third best team era in the whole of ml baseball – and three big games over .500
What manager we must have to be doing so little with such greatness at his disposal
July 27th, 20093:12 pm
Dob please email me and let me know what I am banned for please
July 27th, 20093:14 pm
when i try to post from home my comments havent shown for about a week. But i am at work and they work fine
Wayne in Utah:
No hiding here my friend.
Yeah it was!
I got some good photos, too. The best ones are here.
Also got my picture in the paper a few weeks later in an article about the G-Braves. My Dad’s in the picture, too–it doesn’t have our names or anything, though. But still cool. I had just gotten my baseball signed by BMac. He’s in the picture with us.
July 27th, 20093:16 pm
What annoys me more is that not only do they have gobs of cash, but their front office is so doggone smart. They integrate stats and scouting so freaking well, and add that to the cash they’ve got, and it’s almost not fair anymore…
i have been reading the blog for about 3 years but i rarely post. I dont know why i would be blocked. I know i cant be the most retarded person who comments on this blog
July 27th, 20093:18 pm
boutTHATmouf, did you post under someone else’s screen name? Because that’s a sure-fire way to get banned if DOB catches you.
July 27th, 20093:19 pm
lol no not in the habit of copying screen names
However, in the 8th inning with the bases loaded, 2 outs, Braves behind by 1 run…………..let’s see if Kelly can get the BIG HIT (LENTZ)
Bases loaded, career: .393, .441, .714
Man on third, 2 outs, career: .314, .404, .535, .939
Man on third, less than 2 outs, career: .386, .420, .671
Late & Close, career: .291, .378, .440
Next baseless argument?
July 27th, 20093:21 pm
Oh please no…
Go Braveheart GO!!!!
July 27th, 20093:25 pm
You forgot to add:
RISP: .277/.368/.480 (.848)
WPA, career: 1.41
July 27th, 20093:29 pm
Fly Eagles Fly
July 27th, 20093:30 pm
If people are starting to get banned, I guess that means we all have to cool off the love triangle, huh? Or was that a square? No wait, didn’t it reach pentagon status?
GA can hit a high heater but has anyone ever seen him hit a decent breaking ball? I haven’t.
July 27th, 20093:31 pm
What is the facebook group called for this blog?
July 27th, 20093:32 pm
Vick to be fully reinstated for week 6. Go falcons and Hawks
July 27th, 20093:33 pm
Have others been banned??? or am i the first?
July 27th, 20093:34 pm
No Vick is banned boutTHATmouf
July 27th, 20093:35 pm
WW, but Kelly is a BUM who had a SUCK A$$ first half. Career stats are for MORONS like us. Only TRUE BRAVES FANS like Lentz who “watch” every game and make “mental” notes can decide if a player is CLUTCH or not.
Did B-Mac get injured last night, play a rehab game today, then return to the club?
Wow, musta missed that one….
July 27th, 20093:38 pm
What kind of birds in your pix? It’s lots of fun to watch them growing, but you gotta make sure you don’t run off the parents. Unfortunately, no birdies build nests near our place, what with “Paco, the killer cat” abiding close by.
While he is not good for birds, he is one dad-gummed interesting cat to watch. Stalks like a big “cat” and loves to show off his kill on the back porch. During this time of year, he gets at least one bird per week.
We do feel a little sorry for the birdies though, but you can’t stop him???
July 27th, 20093:42 pm
montyGA can hit a high heater but has anyone ever seen him hit a decent breaking ball? I haven’t.
believe or not, there are plenty of guys who have trouble with decent breaking balls. they hit the breaking balls when they arent decent, a.k.a. high in the zone or they dont break enough. or, they foul them off, or they let the pitcher throw the breaking stuff for balls and then sit on a fastball…
seriously, breaking balls are hard for anyone to hit if they are executed well. anderson would not be alone there.
July 27th, 20093:48 pm
McFann: “I had just gotten my baseball signed by BMac. He’s in the picture with us.”
McFann, is that the photo where you’re absolutely beaming, but Dad seems rather distraught?
You and he posing by Mac, tied-up (pen in hand) in the trunk of your car, is funny as Hell!
How’d he get loose, and why were you never charged darlin?
July 27th, 20093:51 pm
Paul Lentz….almost 24 hours later you are still having the same arguments?? Give it a rest. Keep telling yourself that all 3 of KJ’s hits were meaningless. Whatever makes you feel good. I don’t even like KJ, but now I’m his biggest fan just so you can be proven wrong.
July 27th, 20093:52 pm
Haha, no! I’m talkin’ about May 7th, 2009!
Those are Carolina Wrens! State bird of SC! They’re my favorite kind of birds. I was able to get so close because the Mommy, Jenny Girl, and I were BFF’s. She ate from my hand for 4 years (2004 through 2007). Her hubby, Boogity, ate worms that I dropped off the deck for him…he was a little too scared to come to my hand.
That’s too bad you can’t get any birds to nest in your yard. But yeah, with a cat around…
Cats are int’resting to watch, though. Saw some ADORABLE kittens at Petco last week or whenever–they had all been rescued. OMGosh…they were so cute.
Don’t think you cann. You cann get cats de-clawed, but I don’t know…that cann mess up their paws sometimes.
Granted- I should have been more specific, I can’t remember seeing him hit “any” breaking ball, whatsoever. Usually he swings and looks bad doing so. Not knocking him, just can’t believe a pitcher would ever throw him a fastball! But they do, and he usually makes them pay.
Since the all-star break, the Braves are 8-0 in games when they score more than 1 run… 0-3 in games when they score 1 run or less.
O’Brien the blogger needs plumbin’
else he and his brood will be slummin’
so if there’s a fan
who can service a can
stop on by,keep him happy and strummin’
July 27th, 20093:53 pm
The Braves have won three consecutive series after beating the Brewers on Sunday. Heard this: Although Atlanta is talking with other teams and monitoring the market, the Braves don’t have a glaring hole. They’ll look to add bullpen help, if available, but probably won’t be a factor in any major trade talks.
July 27th, 20093:57 pm
Dad’s not distraught…
You and he posing by Mac, tied-up (pen in hand) in the trunk of your car, is funny as [Heck]!
Haha…um…I never charged because they never caught me!
Steve from OH covered it with that link.
July 27th, 20093:58 pm
The losses were 5-1, 5-1, 4-0…not sure how their record scoring 1 run or less is relevant since it would have taken 6 runs for two of the games and 5 for the other to win.
July 27th, 20094:00 pm
Paco IS declawed! That’s what makes him so amazing. We have never seen him actually catch a bird, but he is either sleeping, or stalking. Mostly sleeping. I guess stalking is a lot of work!
(Two of my boys went to WREN High School in SC back around the turn of the century.)
July 27th, 20094:01 pm
I agree that Kotch is an above average defensive first basemen but he is below average offensively. I am not a Kotchman hater but the stats prove that compared to other NL first basemen he is one of the worst offensively. He is third from last in OPS and RBI among NL first basemen. The stats don’t lie.
I love Carolina Chickadees. Most beautiful bird I’ve ever seen in wild was a Cedar Waxwing.
Piedmont Blues (ex-BFIR)
July 27th, 20094:02 pm
Andrew in P-tang,
Yessir. If the Braves keep winning series (or at least breaking even), they’ll do just fine. I find it hard to believe the Phils can stay this hot for the rest of the summer. They’re good, but not that good.
July 27th, 20094:07 pm
I don’t think anybody will argue with you that Kotchman is one of the least effective offensive first basemen. I think you have to look at the big picture though. While he is low on the list offensively, he is at or near the top offensively. It would be interesting to analyze the plusses and minuses of these first sackers, to see what each truly brings to his team.
A team can get along without a power hitting first baseman, if they are hitting well overall as a team.
Would I like to see Paul Konerko batting 4th in our lineup? You betcha. But, as you know, we are winning now without Konerko. Will it last. That’s the 64 dollar question.
I’m pretty sure it was a pentagon…or maybe a hexagon? I lost count
July 27th, 20094:08 pm
He is? Wow…well that theory just went out the window, then. He must be good, then. Huh…guess then there isn’t a way to stop him…
Mostly sleeping. I guess stalking is a lot of work!
Haha! Must be.
That’s a good name for a HS–Wren High School.
I love Wrennies…so it was rather ironic when the Braves hired a GM named “Wren”.
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