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Jeff321
July 25th, 2009
12:05 pm
Hey Random. Congrats on shutting Paul and Jeff321 up last night. That was classic Random!
Fleming – Funny, I’ve been ignoring Random’s posts for a while now, dude.
Carroll Rogers
July 25th, 2009
12:05 pm
Morning denizens….was reading along to see if I needed to answer any questions but seems you guys are taking care of them pretty well yourselves. that’s cool. …and no worries on Mr. Rogers, if i had a dime for every time that happened….
I’ll check in with Infante and see what I can find today but I still think it’s a couple of weeks. ….We’ll see how Hanson is feeling today. Sounds like the kid has really been battling it. but mono and strep tests negative, he thinks he’s on the mend.
Lew
July 25th, 2009
12:08 pm
Heath-Can’t say I really blame the Phillies. Drabek is their version of Hanson and Happ has already proven that he could well be worth the wait.
When you really get down to brass tacks here, Halladay isn’t really going to put the Phillies over the top. Even if they were to add him, they’d have to lose Happ, one of their only effective pitchers and would still have Moyer, A less effective Hamels (this year) and that other bunch of hopeless pitchers they have on roster (not to mention their two relievers who were DLed this week). Halladay isn’t going to be the piece to put them in control of the Division (as long as the Braves continue their current level of play), much less to take on the Dodgers or the Cards in the playoffs. No sense in mortgaging their future for a less than sure thing t this point.
Lew
July 25th, 2009
12:12 pm
BK-It was never about cutting Josh Anderson-It WAS about starting Schafer at AAA because some of us (correctly it turns out) didn’t think Ol’ Jordan was ready (at least for the bigs-he COULD be ready for Roman Gal).
Efrim
July 25th, 2009
12:13 pm
Steve, Eric, PWH – I’m just looking at what we gave up for Tex, and am absolutely stunned at what the Phillies will give up to get Halladay with almost the exact same contract. Stunned.
He “should” cost Happ, Drabek, 1 of Taylor or Brown, and then 2 of Carrasco, Donald, Marson or D’Arnaud. And that’s conservative.
Hell, 2 months of Matt Holliday just got a team Brett Wallace(one of the ten best hitting prospects in the minors, although he has almost no defensive value), Mortensen(3/4/5 starter), and the other guy…..whatever, he was, what? a potential fourth outfielder? 2 months of a corner outfielder who is a Boras client got them that. This is Roy “f’n” Halladay. The best pitcher in baseball.
Simply amazed if that deal were to happen as we currently hear it(and the phils think they are giving up too much), Brown, Drabek and Happ.
monty
July 25th, 2009
12:15 pm
PWHjort
Scouting not an exact science heh? I watched him pitch the other night and he definitely looks like he has a plan and implements it. DOesn’t throw hard but has a live fastball. Intelligent looking pitcher. Great presence on the mound. They obviously got more than they thought they had. Unless sample size is too small though!(wink-wink) I guess someone has to make a projection along the way, but when you start relegating players to 4th starters or a “bench player” and they start performing well in the Big Leagues then you have to take the label off and re-evaluate and see if you missed something. Kind of like “MArtin Prado will never be more than a good bench player”, Why? Not because he hasn’t performed well in the majors, but based on a minor league label put on him.
Randy S
July 25th, 2009
12:16 pm
Carroll, the article on Matthew Kaminski turned out great. I know a lot of people that enjoyed reading it. And thanks for quoting me.
Alex Trebek
July 25th, 2009
12:16 pm
9 more games with the Phillies, 6 at the Ted. Braves lead the season series 7-2. Don’t hand the title to the phils just yet.
PWHjort
July 25th, 2009
12:17 pm
I agree, Efrim. Though an every-day player always has more impact than a SP.
Efrim
July 25th, 2009
12:17 pm
“Heath-Can’t say I really blame the Phillies. Drabek is their version of Hanson and Happ has already proven that he could well be worth the wait.”
Lew, he might be THEIR version of Hanson, but he isn’t Hanson. I haven’t read that anywhere. Not from anyone that wasn’t associated with the Phils.
Do you really think Halladay wouldn’t put them over the top in the division?!?!? Like honestly? Roy Halladay, best pitcher in baseball. You’re getting him for two pennant races and you aren’t giving up J.A. Happ, a pitcher who was thought by many to be a 5th starter. Drabek, a double A pitcher with bad makeup(since high school), elbow surgery less than two years ago, and Dominin Brown, in High-A Clearwater, at least 2 years away???? That’s too much for the best pitcher in baseball?!?!?!
VABraves4Life
July 25th, 2009
12:17 pm
Hey all I just checked out braves.com and saw that Vazquez is taking KKs start against the Marlins. I love the call its shaping up to be a good match up Josh Johnson 9-2 2.8ERA vs. Vazquez 8-7 2.98…
beekay
July 25th, 2009
12:33 pm
Lew
Would you take Anderson back for his speed and defensive ability and if so who goes down?
Random
July 25th, 2009
12:37 pm
beekay (July 25th, 2009 12:05 pm): “For those of you who moaned about cutting [you mean trading, right?] Anderson, he was let go by the Tigers, would you take him back now?”
Now? Over McLouth? No. Over Schafer? It’s still debatable.
Would we have taken Anderson’s April (.341/.386/.463) over Schafer’s (.273/.415/.439)? Yes; especially since Schafer would concurrently be getting the AAA ABs we thought he needed.
Would we have taken Anderson’s May (.226/.268/.264) over Schafer’s (.158/.239/.188)? Yes.
Were we right when we opined that Schafer was not ML-ready and needed more MiL (AAA) experience? Seems so.
Was Anderson the best altenative to Schafer coming out of ST? Seemed like it at the time — starting CF pretty much boiled down to them two (sorry, Blanco).
Would Anderson’s performance have kept us from trading for McLouth? Probably not — deeply hypothetical, though.
Like it or not, there’s not much room for “I told you so”s with the Anderson/Schafer ST debate. Not based on their performances this year.
Pete
July 25th, 2009
12:38 pm
CARROLL, can you explain something to me that Ive often wondered about? In today’s (Sat.) Sports, the front Page C1 has Braves beating Brewers 9-4, stating “East deficit down to 5 1/2 with Phil. loss.” Moving to Page C4 to check the standings, I see the Braves still 6 games back; the results section states “Atlanta at Milwaukee, 8:05 p.m.” and their win is not even recorded.
Can you get the person who writes Page C4 to read Page C1? Thanks!
rtrafford
July 25th, 2009
12:42 pm
Schafer didn’t need more time at AAA. He needed more time without the wrist injury.
PWHjort
July 25th, 2009
12:44 pm
Random,
Just another example of why spring training isn’t the place to win or lose a job.
rtrafford
July 25th, 2009
12:46 pm
Efrim, the Philth getting Halladay doesn’t put them over the top. They need Hamels to pitch like 2008, Jamie Moyer to pitch like he did in his 30’s, and Blanton to be consistent and keep the opponent below 4 runs per start. Thus far Halladay won’t be any more successful for the Philth than Happ has been. He only projects to be much better into the future…which with everything else remaining constant has the Philth not matching up well with strong pitching in a long series.
Joebrave
July 25th, 2009
12:47 pm
All I want for Summer is Paul Konerko!!!!
beekay
July 25th, 2009
12:47 pm
Random
Many on this board jump the gun when we trade or cut someone and act like Wren and Co. are idiots…..how about the whinners that said Lillibridge and Flowers were way too much for Javy? Javy is an ace this year, that’s right an ace for a 3rd string shortstop that weighed a buck 25 and an overgrown catcher who would never have beat out Mac…I even like the Kawakami move. the guy battles gives you six strong and puts you in a position to win(just wish it was a 5 mill per for two years vs 7-8 for 3 years)
Random
July 25th, 2009
12:48 pm
‘ Mornin’, Lew –
You see I agree with you on Anderson/Schafer — imo, the former’s release has no impact on the previous debate.
Also agreee with you on Hallady/Happ trade — while not exactly being a zero sum move, Happ is a major reason the Phillies are even in contention at this point. You can’t give up a critical piece for a piece you may be missing, ’cause then you’d still be missing a piece.
Same holds for the non compos mentists who would trade Vazquez for a bat. You’re just shooting your own foot. The Braves would not even be thinking about adding a missing piece without Vazquez — he was critical in getting them this far, and remains critical to any play-off hopes.
rtrafford
July 25th, 2009
12:48 pm
…more…what I’m saying is that Halladay is clearly an upgrade for their staff, but one pitcher does not a staff make. They have to get better in the other slots, too. Happ has pitched very well for them to date, yet they haven’t run away with the division, and they haven’t beaten us in a series yet.= regardless of his performance.
We beat Halladay, too.
CB
July 25th, 2009
12:49 pm
Random, a lot of people have seemed to get enjoyment out of seeing Josh A. being released but it was the wrong move at the time. Of course, Josh was not the long term answer but at the time he was. I know a lot of people believe in Schafer,but in my mind that is still debatable.
rtrafford
July 25th, 2009
12:51 pm
Beekay- KK is heavily front loaded and costs us $6.5mm per for the next two seasons. He’s a very nice MOR filler, a consistent vet who has the ability to step up in big games.
Flowers is a very good hitter, and the Sox got a nice return for a pitcher they were looking to purge. Both teams benefited. Solid trade. We’ve already gotten more from Logan than I ever thought we would receive…
rtrafford
July 25th, 2009
12:54 pm
CB- again, Schafer was ready but was set back by a wrist injury. IMO we kept the most reliable piece of depth in CF with Gregor Blankman. I believe strongly that our starting OF in 2010 will be Schafer, McLouth, and Heyward, and it will be seen as a strength.
Efrim
July 25th, 2009
12:58 pm
rtrafford, that’s poor rationale for not trading for the best pitcher in baseball. And you absolutely killed your argument when you said
“Happ has pitched very well for them to date, yet they haven’t run away with the division, and they haven’t beaten us in a series yet.= regardless of his performance.” “We beat Halladay, too.”
Well they are 7 games up in the loss column with Happ. Are you saying that Halladay = Happ and that they will continue to be 7 games up in the division? I think Halladay would be worth 4-5 more wins and you’d also have him pitching in games 1, 4, and 7 in the playoffs.
Buzzmeat
July 25th, 2009
1:03 pm
And I want for summer is a ANOTHER reliever, and or 1B power.
Random
July 25th, 2009
1:04 pm
beekay (July 25th, 2009 12:47 pm) –
I (and others) were totally psyched when Wren traded for Vazquez. Even more so when you dug a little deeper and saw how Guillen used him the last couple weeks of the season, and (digging even deeper) how his unimpressive W-L record was heavily affected by the defense behind him. I expected him to be a better acquisition than Lowe, all things considered.
I also agree with you on Kawakami — I wrote a little dissertation on his performance after his first two months. Just that one fluky game at CIN when the grounder hit the baserunner where he was (inappropriately, imo) charged with 8 ER in 4.2 IP makes him look mediocre statistically.
PWHjort
July 25th, 2009
1:06 pm
Buzzmeat,
Agreed.
Joebrave
July 25th, 2009
1:10 pm
Konerko for President!
beekay
July 25th, 2009
1:11 pm
I think the in your face style and constant criticism that Javy got from Ozzie affected his performance. Bobby’s style seems to make him much more comfortable. We can’t deal him now, lets worry about Huddy when the time comes…someone always gets hurt. If Huddy fails than we cut him loose, if he succeeds we have a good problem to deal with.
MiaBchBravesFan
July 25th, 2009
1:14 pm
Enter your comments here
deano54
July 25th, 2009
1:15 pm
What do yall think the odds are the braves going to make a move? I don’t , but I have feeling Wrenn is done? I know everyone is saying we need a big bat, but i would least like to get another reliable arm in the Bull pen
Mitchie-san
July 25th, 2009
1:15 pm
I need Tommy Hanson and David Price to have a good game today to save my hide in my fantasy league! Oh boy…
Let’s go Tommy!
CB
July 25th, 2009
1:22 pm
rtrafford,if you want to be believe in Schafer being a future star and being hurt is the reason he did not perform,thats fine. The jury is still out for me, but I hope you are right and I am wrong.
NCBravesFan
July 25th, 2009
1:26 pm
Couple of thoughts on Halliday. The Phillies have to weigh whether the opportunity to win one or two more WS titles is worth the price tag for Halliday. With all the spending that the NYY did over the winter, the roster the BoSox have and the young core the Dodgers have paired with Manny, the Phillies’ path to even a second title is a lot more difficult than even last year. Halliday would almost certainly help the Phils compete in the postseason.
The other piece of that equation is the trend in baseball to get younger in the post-steroid era. Halliday will be in his mid-30’s at the end of his contract next year. I read in (I think) Nick Carfado’s baseball notebook a few weeks back that the BoSox view the prime salary/performance years as 27-32. Halliday is already at the end of that window – it’s not to say he will break down tomorrow, next year or even three years from now. But time is what it is and the law of averages begins to work against a player all things equal.
So the Phils have a lot to think about in regards to the short and long term.
As to the earlier scouting report posted about JA Happ – I wonder if 20 years ago, the same basic things might have been said about Tom Glavine?
TommyP
July 25th, 2009
1:32 pm
Lew: You’re saying if the Phils acquire Halladay, it doesn’t put them as the clear-cut favorite to win the East? Are you kidding me?
With a rotation of Roy Halladay, Cole Hamels, Blanton, Myers, Moyer and Rodrigo Lopez (who has been very good for them so far), you don’t think that puts them in the driver’s seat?
They’ve won 2 straight divisions with subpar starting pitching. They don’t need the Braves starting pitching to win.
They’re ALREADY the team to beat now. Give them Roy Halladay and they’re playing for the World Series.
All they need is about a 4.50 ERA from their starters and they’re set.
Rob from SC
July 25th, 2009
1:32 pm
Lew
Schafer hit all spring long, then hit great the first ten games until his wrist injury.
Rob from SC
July 25th, 2009
1:33 pm
TommyP
All they need is about a 4.50 ERA from their starters and they’re set.
Not when they face the Braves, Cardinals, and Dodger pitching
beekay
July 25th, 2009
1:41 pm
We are 17-14 in one run games….what were we last year? Is Sori and Gonzo the reason for such a dramatic change, or could Bobby’s stategy this yearbe much better than last years
McLouth of the South
July 25th, 2009
1:41 pm
Efrim,
I’ll agree with some who may suggest that upgrading Happ to Halladay guarantees nothing for the Phils based on the fact that, to THIS point, the two have been fairly comparable.
Halladay- 11-3 2.78 1.05 in 19 starts
Happ- 7-1 2.97 1.18 in 12 starts
Understand that I’m not saying in any way that Happ is as good as Halladay or that he would keep this pace up. Point is, all they’re getting in this deal is guaranteed similar-to-better production for the next 1.5 years out of one slot in the rotation. The others are as bad as ever, making their weakness just as glaring IMHO.
TommyP
July 25th, 2009
1:42 pm
Rob from SC: Just ’cause a team has a nice staff doesn’t mean they’ll automatically shut down the Phils.
The Cards staff is REALLY going to shut down Philly?
LA is REALLY that dominating a staff?
Sorry, but I’m just not buying it.
Shane
July 25th, 2009
1:45 pm
Carroll, Peter Gammons reported on Sportscenter this morning that Heyward could be on the big club very soon even before September, any truth to this and does it make sense to??
McFann :Ô:
July 25th, 2009
1:47 pm
Greg in TN Seems like the break did much to cure a lot of ills and make for a happier McFann in the process. Everybody’s Favorite Catcher has rebounded nicely since his trip to St Louie hitting .314 with a .923 OPS.
Yep! Had that 11 game hitting streak working…2 games shy of tying his career high. [sigh] Ah well…gotta start a new one tonight.
The Braves are also getting more long balls as evidenced by last night’s game against the lads of lager.
Yeah! Lots of long-balls to the warning track!
Piedmont Blues (x-BFIR)
July 25th, 2009
1:48 pm
If the Phils get Halladay (which seems dicier by the hour, unless Ricciardi is playing chicken with the Phils to bid up the price), then yeah, it does put them on par with the Dodgers as the best team in the NL. Every time Halladay and Hamels start, the Phils should have a lead-pipe-cinch chance to win. And with their offense, all they have to do is get mediocre starts from Blanton, Moyer, and Lopez. If only one of them does a decent job each time through the rotation, then the Phils should be expected to win 60 percent of their remaining games. Not a bad place to be.
McFann :Ô:
July 25th, 2009
1:48 pm
RHR Imagine if we were trading Chipper or McCann or Hanson for Happ and an outfield prospect. And then watching what could be their last start? I’m pretty sure I would weep every day until August 1st.
I wouldn’t be able to handle that, either…already had BMac’s career flash before my eyes once…
Plus–Happ? YUCK!!
McLouth of the South
July 25th, 2009
1:49 pm
Read this from the draft report link beekay provided nd almost choked. Sounds like someone from the VERY recent past to me. Scary…
7. Robby Hefflinger, OF, Georgia Perimeter JC (GA), #208 overall, 6’5’’/225: I wasn’t surprised when the Braves selected a Georgia native, and Hefflinger was a name I thought might be connected to them, though probably in the early teens. He’s got immense power, but he seems to swing and miss a lot. He’s got a plus arm, though, as he was also a power pitcher for Perimeter. All of these tools add up to a high-ceiling corner outfielder with a lot to work on.
Piedmont Blues (x-BFIR)
July 25th, 2009
1:50 pm
Also, folks, Rosenthal’s saying the Braves are one team taking a look at Troy Glaus, who’s playing some LF in his rehab. The Cardinals no longer have a place for him with DeRosa at 3B and Holliday in LF. Don’t know what the Cards would want, but if he’s not too costly, what a nice addition to the lineup — or the bench.
Piedmont Blues (x-BFIR)
July 25th, 2009
1:51 pm
McLouth,
At least they didn’t use a first-round pick for him!
McFann :Ô:
July 25th, 2009
1:53 pm
Piedmont Blues–
Another outfielder? Um…don’t we have enough of those as it is?
But the more important question is: Cann he bat cleanup?
kelevra
July 25th, 2009
1:53 pm
now thats ja happ i remember, phils better hurry and trade him while the blue jays think he is actually worth being in the halladay package
Fleming
July 25th, 2009
1:59 pm
Who needs a power hitting 1B. We have Prado. Move him over and let KJ have one of his hot streaks at 2b. Problem solved (Sarcasm alert).
Count de Monet
July 25th, 2009
2:00 pm
How about Kelly Freakin Johnson for Glaus
McFann :Ô:
July 25th, 2009
2:08 pm
Hmm…Troy Glaus is a righty who hit 27 homers last year…maybe he could at least bat cleanup against lefties if we could get him!
Of course…what are the Cardinals looking for?
Mitchie-san
July 25th, 2009
2:09 pm
Glaus would be fantastic. There’s your cleanup hitter.
McFann :Ô:
July 25th, 2009
2:12 pm
Mitchis-san There’s your cleanup hitter.
Really?? What are the Cardinals’ demands?
kelevra
July 25th, 2009
2:13 pm
sorry if this was already asked and answered but what is glaus’ salary/contract
Dan_in_NC
July 25th, 2009
2:14 pm
The Troy Glaus rumors are interesting…here’s my biggest concern with the outfield. We would have like four guys to platoon two positions. None of the four are good enough to be everyday but each are good enough to be interchanged in the lineup.
IMO it’s almost like the ol saying in college football…”If you are starting two quarterbacks, then you got no quarterback.” That to me is how I see the Braves corner outfield at this time.
BTW, if it hasn’t been stated already…Peter Gammons said this morning on ESPN that he could see a couple elite prospects, including the Braves Jason Heyward getting called up after the deadline. Gammons in particular mentioned Heyward and how he could be an impact bat for the last two months of the regular season. The other elite he singled out in the feature was none other than Neftali Feliz.
NCBravesFan
July 25th, 2009
2:15 pm
McFann: Unless I’m missing something, Glaus is a FA at the end of the year and is coming off injuries. Can’t imagine it would take a lot for a two month rental.
Shane
July 25th, 2009
2:15 pm
FA after this season 12M this season that will be prorated he will be owed about 5M if we get him now.
Paul Lentz
July 25th, 2009
2:17 pm
The only way trading for Troy Glaus would make sense would be if the Braves traded Casey Kotchman. !st base is the only position that Glaus would play (the Cards have a first baseman named Pujols, lol). I just dont see it happening.
Troy Glaus is just one of those “rumors” who that seem to “pop” up from nowhere.
Efrim
July 25th, 2009
2:17 pm
“Halladay- 11-3 2.78 1.05 in 19 starts
Happ- 7-1 2.97 1.18 in 12 starts”
McLouth of the South, you’re not taking into account the difference in leagues. Are you saying that pitching the AL East is the same as pitching in the NL East, or even any other division in baseball?
This brings up an even larger argument that most people don’t understand. The American League is superior to the National League. It has been for a while. Roy Halladay has to pitch more than half of his games against the Red Sox, Rays and Yanks. Not to mention the O’s offense is pretty comparable to some of the better offenses in the NL. Pitchers that dominate in the AL(especially the AL East) would absolutely be better in the National League. This is one of the reasons teams didn’t want to give up as much as you;d think for Jake Peavy. He pitches more than half of his games against the Giants, D-Backs and Rockies. A lot of pitchers would post better than league average ERA’s against that competition.
See Javy Vazquez. He has pitched in hitters parks for the last several seasons and in the AL. Great pitcher in a fair ballpark like Atlanta, in the National League. He is going to post these types of numbers with his ability. People dismiss things like this far too often.
sri
July 25th, 2009
2:18 pm
Glaus makes $11.25mil. Can we afford him?
Steve from OH
July 25th, 2009
2:20 pm
Glaus would be a great pickup IMO if healthy and cheap. Gives us a very good RH bat that can play 3rd, LF and 1B if healthy. Like the idea.
McFann :Ô:
July 25th, 2009
2:21 pm
NCBravesFan–
Good. So they cann have…uh…what’s that minor league relief pitcher’s name…?
This is why I hardly ever get into the trade talks on here.
McFann :Ô:
July 25th, 2009
2:23 pm
Steve from OH–
Yeah–haha! He cann platoon with GA and bat cleanup against lefties! If Chipper needs a day off, he cann play third and bat cleanup against anybody! If Kotchman needs a day off, you guessed it…
NCBravesFan
July 25th, 2009
2:23 pm
Paul Lentz: I think the thought is that Glaus would move to LF and platoon with Garrett, and that Blanco would be sent out (since Church can play right or center).
P-Town Brave
July 25th, 2009
2:28 pm
If we got Glaus wouldn’t Norton be out of a job for sure?!
jtb
July 25th, 2009
2:28 pm
Is the difference in leagues really THAT big of a difference? I remember everyone saying how much Santana would dominate in the NL after coming from the AL and while his numbers have been really good, he hasn’t dominated like everyone said he would. Also, wouldn’t it be likely that Halladay’s number could suffer a little having to pitch in CItizen’s Bank?
RHR
July 25th, 2009
2:29 pm
I thought Blanco was already gone?
Mitchie-san
July 25th, 2009
2:29 pm
Ya know Paul, out of all the “rumors” that “pop” up, this one could work. Who says he cant play in the outfield?
jtb
July 25th, 2009
2:30 pm
NCBravesFan
Blanco was sent down when Norton was activated
Random
July 25th, 2009
2:32 pm
MAKE-IT-UP-BOY GOES ALL BIPOLAR
Jeff321:
July 24th, 2009 8:58 pm
Ummmmm
July 24th, 2009 9:01 pm
Is Roger going out to the mound or what?
July 24th, 2009 9:06 pm
Good to see Javy regroup and take control of that inning!
July 24th, 2009 9:52 pm
YANK HIM!
July 24th, 2009 10:08 pm
Hmmm, so does Cox send Javy back out there again? Or maybe a “fresh arm” might actually preserve this lead?
July 24th, 2009 10:47 pm
Let it be known, Bobby Cox finally made a good move by sticking with Javy! I would have yanked him out a couple innings ago.
Fleming
July 25th, 2009
2:34 pm
Random
Jeff says he doesn’t read your posts any more.
kelevra
July 25th, 2009
2:35 pm
can someone explain how we would plan on paying the 11.25 mil glaus is owed. even if the cardinals pay for some of it i was under the impression we couldnt add any significant payroll
# 31
July 25th, 2009
2:36 pm
The only way trading for Troy Glaus would make sense would be if the Braves traded Casey Kotchman. !st base is the only position that Glaus would play (the Cards have a first baseman named Pujols, lol). I just dont see it happening. – Paul Lentz
…actually Glaus has been working out in the outfield to get back up faster. lol, lol, lol….You will throw anything out there to see if it sticks won’t you?
RHR
July 25th, 2009
2:36 pm
I agree with Efrim…Happ is like…no. I mean, I can’t believe anyone would even put his numbers up next to Halladay and act like they compare.
3 of Happ’s wins were vs the Nationals, his others were vs Pitt, Fla, SD, and Toronto. Hallady is better than ANY pitcher in the NL. The only way this is anything near a good trade for both sides is if its 2010 and Halladay has 2 months left on his contract, not a year and 2 months. Like I said before, I would be weeping uncontrollably if I were a Jays fan.
NCBravesFan
July 25th, 2009
2:37 pm
jtb: thanks for the update.
kelevra: the $12 million Glaus is owed is his annual salary, so the Braves would be responsible for (at most) two months worth of that.
Choppinmama
July 25th, 2009
2:37 pm
Hi Carroll: good to see you at the Maddux HOF luncheon. Interested also to see that you and your cohorts were seated even farther back in the room than my table. Guess it doesn’t matter when you make your reservations for us lowly fan peons, the corporate guys always get the good seats. Can’t complain too much as we had Raphael Soriano seated with us, and since he said he had already eaten, we talked and asked questions all through the meal!
I thought it was kinda strange there wasn’t a video or message read to Greg from Smoltz. What was going on there?
Keep on bringing us the good luck in Milwaukee – you’re off to another great start!
Billy Walsh
July 25th, 2009
2:38 pm
There is no way that the braves can afford to add Glaus.
RHR
July 25th, 2009
2:38 pm
LOL I wouldn’t read Random’s post anymore either if I were him.
THWG
July 25th, 2009
2:38 pm
Glaus has a full no-trade clause for the remainder of his contract… Would he even waive it? I guess if he actually got playing time here maybe…
Fleming
July 25th, 2009
2:40 pm
Jeff claimed Random didn’t shut him up last night but funny there were no more posts after Random took him on.
Random
July 25th, 2009
2:41 pm
A MAKE-IT-UP-BOY TRIFECTA!!!
Jeff321 (July 24th, 2009 4:11 pm): “We can always count on Carroll Rogers to put something other than a bunch of stats in her blog.”
Jeff321 (July 24th, 2009 9:52 pm): “YANK HIM!”
Jeff321 (July 24th, 2009 11:28 pm): “So, Bobby Cox brings in Soriano for a non save situation… I guess the game wouldn’t be complete without a little mismanagement by the head donkey in charge.”
Priceless.
Original Jon
July 25th, 2009
2:42 pm
TommyP, Halladay and Hamels, then it stops there as far as being good goes. Where as the Braves have a better staff 1-5. So no, the Phillies wouldnt be clear cut favorites just because they added a guy that can only pitch every 5th. We see how far that got the Mets when they added Johan.
RHR
July 25th, 2009
2:42 pm
Wait..what? You sat with MFIKY! And he talked to you?! Tell us more! What did he say? Did he smile? Did you fear for your life?
RHR
July 25th, 2009
2:43 pm
And most importantly, what was he doing there? MFIKY is not impressed by Greg Maddux. The team must have required all players to go or something.
Original Jon
July 25th, 2009
2:46 pm
RHR, how do you know Soriano isnt impressed with Maddux? Did he tell you that?
Crotchrocket
July 25th, 2009
2:46 pm
RHR
What exactly does MFIKY stand for?
Fleming
July 25th, 2009
2:46 pm
RHR – MFIKY aws there to see what the ceremony was gonna be like when they retire his number.
Van the Man
July 25th, 2009
2:47 pm
Where did Paul go? vacation maybe…..
bravefaninok
July 25th, 2009
2:47 pm
mutha f_____ i kill you….MFIKY
PWHjort
July 25th, 2009
2:47 pm
Monty,
Yeah. I agree. He seems like the ultimate pitchability lefth. Those guys don’t get labeled as top of the rotation starters. We had one named Tom Galvine and he seemed to work out in the you of our rotation pretty well.
McLouth of the South
July 25th, 2009
2:49 pm
Efrim, only point is that they have already been in good shape in that slot. Replacing Happ with Halladay, assuming Happ goes in the trade, doesn’t address the pitching DEPTH problem which is the real issue. You’d have to be and idiot to think the two were truly equal over the long haul.
Fleming
July 25th, 2009
2:49 pm
Van the Man
He’s resting his fingers for tonight. Don’t want to be like he calls Bobby and abuse them.
Mitchie-san
July 25th, 2009
2:50 pm
RHR, The whole MFIKY thing is starting to catch on here at work. I have used it around the shop when something bugs me. I dont know if you spell it out or not, here it has transformed into an actual word pronounced ” muh-ficky ”
Now people (even the wife) occasionally say MFIKY….
RHR
July 25th, 2009
2:53 pm
He isnt impressed with anything, Jon.
Crotch – IKY stands for I’ll Kill You, MF can be either My friend or….something else.
Crotchrocket
July 25th, 2009
2:54 pm
huh… very fitting for the scowl
Jeff321
July 25th, 2009
2:54 pm
Jeff claimed Random didn’t shut him up last night but funny there were no more posts after Random took him on.
Fleming – The only funny thing is I went to sleep. (Plus, as I don’t read Random’s posts anymore.. Responding to something I haven’t read isn’t logical.)
FYI – Random is an internet stalker. Most normal people when told you want nothing to do with them go about their business. But, not Random. He will bring my name up hundreds of times throughout the weeks and months ahead. That boy has a sickness.
Btw, I was checking out the AJC’s terms of service and found this:
Specific Prohibited Uses
“Stalking” or otherwise harassing another
http://projects.ajc.com/policies/visitoragreement/
Then again, I guess being one of DOB’s “boys” has its perks.
kelevra
July 25th, 2009
2:55 pm
ok boys, deadline is less than a week away, lets have yalls best guesses, who do we trade and who do we trade for them. (no “an arm for a bat”) names included. couple things to remember
1. we r not trading heyward or freeman
2. we cant add significant payroll
3. the gms from other teams have brains too so we probably arnt going to get ryan braun for kj
RHR
July 25th, 2009
2:55 pm
Haha that’s hilarious Mitchie. I say it like MIF-KEY … I know that doesn’t exactly match the letters but its the best I could come up with because I would never actually say the first two words. Together. Outloud.