K.J. is back, Conrad sent down

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jeffrey d

July 24th, 2009
3:14 pm

C rod, where’s that new blog? BOD would’ve had it up by now.

BOD? That some new nickname for him? Like Jesse “The Body” Ventura? Sounds a little odd but okay…

TommyP

July 24th, 2009
3:14 pm

Knowing that the Braves have had scouts watching the Dodgers’ AA squad, a guy I mentioned yesterday that I hope we pursue is Joshua Bell.

He’s 22 and a huge 3B. A guy that we could be patient with until Chipper decides to hang it up. Here’s what to like:

6′3″, 235 lbs., switchhitter, .292 avg., 10 dingers, 46 ribbies, .383 OBP, .487 Slug, 48 BB, 67 K, and .870 OPS. Defense apparently needs work (17 errors) but that’s why he’d be nice to have to take along slowly.

MFin04

July 24th, 2009
3:15 pm

Wow lots of stuff flying around. What exactly, if anything, has any sort of truth to it? Braves only really need a first baseman. They are set at starting pitching, catchers, 3rd, SS, and 2nd. They now have 4 legit outfielders. So I’m assuming Kotchman would be part of a trade. I don’t see the Braves trading him though…he’s defense fits in perfectly with this team.

jeffrey d

July 24th, 2009
3:16 pm

Andrew – My guess is he’ll be like Juan Pierre on the Dodgers. A good starter who’s forced to be a 4th outfielder. Giving the other guys rest and being a well above average bat off the bench.

The Love Child of Dale Murphy and Johnny Cash

July 24th, 2009
3:17 pm

Kelly Johnson to the Cardinals for Pujols’ sweaty jock strap!!!! Wait, St. Louis would never give that much up for KJ.

Andrew in P-tang

July 24th, 2009
3:18 pm

hes hitting 273 with 16 homers and 61 rbi’s that our guy…schafer and kelly done

Piedmont Blues (ex-BFIR)

July 24th, 2009
3:21 pm

Andrew in P-tang,

Nah, the Cards can keep Ludwick and Ankiel, unless they think they could get something useful for Ankiel, who’s a FA at the end of the season (and another Boras client, like Holliday).

lexbrave

July 24th, 2009
3:21 pm

the redsox just put kotsay on waivers

McLouth of the South

July 24th, 2009
3:21 pm

Wonder if Medlen, Freeman, KJ, and Schafer would make San Diego or Cleveland listen on Gonzalez or VMart…would want to extend VMart first though

TommyP

July 24th, 2009
3:24 pm

McLouth of the South: I think the Pads just told the Bosox that they wouldn’t entertain any deal for Gonzalez today. Very strange given that the Red Sox could load the Padres up with young talent.

Instead, the Pads will hang onto Gonzalez because he’s such a massive draw out there. (rolling eyes)

Goodoleboy

July 24th, 2009
3:27 pm

I wouldnt mind Kotsay back in Atlanta to replace Norton… I mean if we want a veteran why not Kotsay

Roman Gal

July 24th, 2009
3:28 pm

I think (hope) we’ll see him roaming CF for years to come… Steve from OH

Just when we start annoying each other, we start agreeing. You know what, I’m going to make an effort to be nice for the rest of the day. You’ve inspired me!

jeffrey d

July 24th, 2009
3:31 pm

Man the Cards didn’t give up too much for Holliday. Wallace was their #2 prospect but he doesn’t seem that great.

Nova Scotia Steve

July 24th, 2009
3:32 pm

I could be totally wrong…but I don’t see Atlanta making any significant moves whatsoever.

I mean…its interesting to read about rumors and every fan wants their GM to be active looking to improve the ballclub…

But we’re pretty good….I liked the Church & McLouth moves…Hanson’s call-up…Prado’s promotion…Yunel’s emergence.

I mean this is a VERY different team than the one that took the field on Opening Day

And getting Tim Hudson back is almost like aquiring an all-star pitcher for the stretch run.

Mitchie-san

July 24th, 2009
3:33 pm

Dude, get Kotsay and get rid of Norton!!!

Nova Scotia Steve

July 24th, 2009
3:34 pm

Good call Mitchie-san…

Kotsay and his hot wife can come back to Atlanta anytime…

Whoooppsss did I just type that!

Steve from OH

July 24th, 2009
3:36 pm

RG–c’mon, me, annoyed with you? The horror! We’re both RSF fans, after all…

UNCBrave

July 24th, 2009
3:37 pm

Kotsay>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Norton

Pic of his hot wife??

Chop Chop

July 24th, 2009
3:37 pm

brvz ned 2 trayd 4 sum1 gud mcccan ned hlp 2 win WS

That’s all I’m sayin’.

Mitchie-san

July 24th, 2009
3:37 pm

N.S.S.

That was the real reason I want him to come back…

fleming

July 24th, 2009
3:38 pm

Steve from OH

Roman Gal should be all for trading Freeman. It brings RSF that much closer to the big Braves.

Carroll Rogers

July 24th, 2009
3:39 pm

new blog is up

flange1

July 24th, 2009
3:39 pm

RG, are you a Michigan fan too?

Chop Chop

July 24th, 2009
3:40 pm

Wait. I had one more thing to say.

unel ned 2 grw ^ cuz we ned 2 win WS

Just thought I’d throw that in.

Roman Gal

July 24th, 2009
3:40 pm

We’re both RSF fans, after all…

Very true. But how could anyone not like him?

I’m looking at you, McFann and cabravesfan!!

chilidog75

July 24th, 2009
3:42 pm

It’s amazing.
One guy comes on here, for the second day this week, and posts that some mysterous radio station in Chicago is reporting that a Konerko deal is in place.
And that’s all it takes to get the rumors flying.
What’s the radio station? Any links? Any “basebal insiders” chimed in?

Or is it just one dude trying to see how riled up he can get a blog?

Piedmont Blues (ex-BFIR)

July 24th, 2009
3:42 pm

I just believe I had my first FIRST on the new blog. Drinks all around!

Paul Lentz

July 24th, 2009
3:42 pm

Lew………concerning your 10:13am posting, I cant speak for others……….however I have repeatedly stated that while I opposed the Brooks Conrad demotion……that single move “in itself” isnt going to doom the Braves season.

However, what that move “did signal” was a SNEAK PREVIEW of what lies ahead (roster moves that will be coming up in the next few weeks that the Braves have to make). For instance, both Jeff Bennett and Buddy Carlyle will be soon coming off the DL. They will both be activated and rejoin Peter Moylan as pitchers Bobby Cox will “use’ in the 6th and 7th innings in crucial situations.

I feel that Peter Moylan, Jeff Bennett, and Buddy Carlyle do not need to be pitching for the Braves. They are not dependable nor consistent. In crucial situations, more times than not, they will be rocked. Check their stats. Remember their meltdowns that have cost the Braves a number of games.

What began with Greg Norton being added to the Braves roster right before the All-Star Break in Colorado (while demoting a speedy pinch running option and bunter in Gregor Blanco)……..and continued after the All-Star Break with Greg Norton (5 for 46 thus far in the season) being given important pinch hitting at-bats over Brooks Conrad (11 for 32, batting .344 with 1 double, 2 triples, and 2 homers). Last Saturday’s game against the Mets where Norton struck out on two fastballs down the middle with the bases loaded and 2 outs with the Mets up 2-1……sealed the fate on Greg Norton, in my opinion. Yet the powers that be disagree with me.

And yesterday morning, when I woke up, I read that Kelly Johnson was promoted and Brooks Conrad was demoted. As I said yesterday, while I not a fan of Kelly Johnson’s ability to hit, I do feel that he can contribute more than Greg Norton. However, not at the expense of Brooks Conrad, who has PROVED to be a valued bat off the bench in his limited time with Atlanta. Dude is a hot hand, you rid that horse until he slows down. You dont jump on a horse (Greg Norton) who has yet to start running all year long.

I think that the scouting report on a hot Braves player (who isnt one of “Bobby’s boys”) is to wait for Bobby to bench them, so he can give one of “his boys” at-bats to “get them going”. When the Chicago series right before the All-Star Break started, Matt Diaz was in a 13 for 26 stretch. Does Bobby continue to start Diaz over Francoeur? Of course not, he inserts “his boy’ Jeff Francoeur back in right field in order to “get him going”. No wondered Diaz cooled off during the Colorado series.

Brooks Conrad was 11 for 32 with 5 extra base hits since his call-up…….yet who does Bobby Cox start using as his valued pinch hitter off the bench after the All-Star Break? Greg “Mr. 5 for 46″ Norton. No wonder Conrad was 0 for 1 in the 7 games after the All-Star Break (he did have 1 walk in his other pinch hitting appearance) before he was demoted yesterday……..he cooled off because he didnt get a chance to play.

Only Bobby Cox can cool a hot player by not playing him (especially if the hot player is trying to take playing time from one of his “boys”). So Bobby sits them for a week (so a BUM like Greg Norton can get valued pinch hitting at-bats). And then he has the nerve to say to the reporters “I had a tough decision to make yesterday”. TOUGH?: What was SO FREAKING TOUGH about yesterday’s decision? If was a NO BRAINER. Greg Norton is a BUM.

Some of you really have no idea what lies ahead in the next couple of weeks. Some of the coming moves are going to accelerate the “ship is sinking” process. YOU CAN BANK ON IT. All you have to do is look at what has happened in the recent moves. Just because the Braves have won 6 of the past 8 (we should have won all 8 if Bobby had pushed the right buttons)……does not mean that the Braves will continue playing that way, especially given the effect of what the moves recently made, coupled with the moves that are soon going to be made.

I stand behind my statement last night that “Our season is over it”.

Bobby's Cox

July 24th, 2009
3:42 pm

Steve,

True. Goes in line with our previous discussions. Stats are a good indicator on how a player has performed in the past. It doesn’t necessarily give any indication to how a player will perform. Maybe they’ll hint at their tenancies, but for the most part, players change. They get older and “get it”, they get older and lose it. Teams are the same way. Some teams, Rockies for example, make a personnel change, and just by making a few changes to the lineup, are able to change the dynamics of their whole team. We’ve done something similar in the past 3 weeks. My point to Shaun was that run differential could or could not be telling of how a team will perform. In our case, it has absolutely no indication to the new direction I think our team has taken…so Shaun can pretty much take the run differential stats and throw them out the window. Totally different team now.

brian

July 24th, 2009
3:43 pm

I just hope that the Braves are not hoping to acquire Konerko for Medlen, Kotchman, and prospects and then clearing payroll by shipping Vazquez to the Dodgers for prospects.

Unfortunately I could see the Braves adding a bat such as Konerko and agreeing to take on the salary to minimize the prospects that have to be given up (and by no means would I ever include Freddy Freeman in that potential trade). By taking on a new bat salary the Braves would have to clear salary somewhere and I would have to assume they would look to Vazquez, especially with Hudson coming back.

BL

July 24th, 2009
3:50 pm

I have read a bunch of posts about KK not having a “strong enough” arm to be a starter and/or he can only go 5 innings. As most have heard he is having trouble adjusting to our QuesTec strike zone over here(which I thought was extra small yesterday, amazingly enough not for Yunel though). The reason why he is going so few innings each game is because his pitch count is so high. If he can pepper the plate a little more he will log more innings for us.

Random

July 24th, 2009
3:53 pm

fleming (July 24th, 2009 11:58 am, p 20), Bay Area Steve (July 24th, 2009 1:50 pm, p 21) –

Thanks, fellas.

But I gotta apologize — I had no cause to personally demean nrtnscks like I did. It did nothing to elevate the discourse, and diminishes my own credibility.

Sorry, nrtnscks — my bad.

Ry

July 24th, 2009
3:57 pm

I really can’t understand demoting Conrad. He was not only hitting well, but brought alot of energy to the team. Norton doesn’t add anything, but an almost automatic out. This is strange move to say the least.

Paul Lentz

July 24th, 2009
3:58 pm

fleming……………concerning you 12:15pm posting comparing Jimmy Rollins’ first half struggles to Kelly Johnson’s leaves out a few “differences”.

First Rollins is a Gold Glove winning, former “recent” MVP who was a key clog on the Phillies World Championship team last year. Rollins has put up some “consistent” numbers from 2004-2008. It is that kind of “excellent” track record, over a period of 5 STRAIGHT YEARS, that warranted Charlie Manuel to be patient with Rollins. Since the Braves swept the Phillies a few weeks back, Rollins has started to “pick up the pace”.

Kelly Johnson plays inferior defense at second. Plus he isnt the “base stealer” that Rollins is. Plus he doesnt have the “body of work” (ok, so Kelly had a decent 2007-2008). Jeff Fancoeur had a decent 2006-2007 and we all know what happened to him.

I “understand” what some on here were trying to do with the Kelly-Rollins comparison. However, Rollins is a MUCH BETTER PLAYER than Kelly will ever be.

Bobby's Cox

July 24th, 2009
3:59 pm

btw Steve,

I get your point….consistency in stats over time is a great indicator. I agree. I just don’t think you can entirely point to stats when you change certain aspects of your team. As far as 2007, you can’t say the Braves had a good offense because of the runs they produced. For them most part, i.e. across 30 ML teams, yes, those stats will even out and in general be a good indicator. But there will be a few teams that don’t follow the mean….and the ‘07 club was one of those.

Have a great day…won’t be able to chat any more today…

sportsmandh

July 24th, 2009
4:10 pm

Comparing KJ to Rollins makes me laugh. It is brightening my day, thanks for making me laugh and getting my weekend off to a good start.

Go Braves!

KC

July 24th, 2009
4:19 pm

WITHOUT QUESTION, the Braves should place Norton on waivers, and claim Kotsay!!! With right-handed hitting O.Infante due back very soon, Norton is less important. But frankly, he’s not important anyway given that he can’t hit the broad side of Sam’s Club this year.

Bleu_Bayou42

July 26th, 2009
6:48 pm

When Infante get’s back they need to release Norton, he freaking sucks in 2009. They need to send Diory back to Gwinnet and get Conrad back up here.

Bleu_Bayou42

July 26th, 2009
6:53 pm

Bennett sucks but bring Buddy back.

john

July 31st, 2009
1:02 pm

When is cox going to give up on Norton and get someone in that will help. He sends conroad back to minors hitting ove 300 and keeps norton hitting under 100.really a great move Booby

put a fork in we done

August 4th, 2009
4:23 am

we done update today…..Bobby cox finds the Missin scroll of losers n use it n gets us back to 1970’s n 1980’s n 1990 form…oh well fire cox he can go beat his wife again

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