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cabravesfan
July 23rd, 2009
6:33 pm
VJ-
I’d forgotten
I think as of right now it’s JJ on Thurs, Tommy on Fri, KK on Sat. and Javy on Sunday…it depends on if they rearrange it because of the off day…
DirtyDawg
July 23rd, 2009
6:33 pm
Sorry guys and I don’t care if none of us had heard about Conrad before the last few weeks, this guy’s so much better a ball-player than Norton or Kelly Johnson it’s crazy that we would send him back down. OK, maybe they’re showcasing a KJ that’s starting to hit in hopes that somebody might want him, but not Norton. that guy showed me everything I need to know when he swung threw two, straight-down-the-middle, medium speed, fastballs with the bases loaded last week. Let him go.
And while I’m at it, is anybody else ‘up-to-here’ with the jabber of Simpson and whoever his ‘partner’ is? For example, here’s the kid Conrad that’s been to the plate any number of times while they’re announcing (or more accurately talking about something or other that only they’re interested in) and hasn’t used a batting glove yet – and they’ve never mentioned it. Yet you let one SF outfielder come in here and the camera does a close-up of the glove-less hands and they go on about him being a throw-back, hard-nosed ballplayer. Same thing with Kotchman. The guy’s been lolly-popping the ball to the pitcher (covering or returning pick-off throws) on all short throws (other than the ones he does underhanded which he get’s there pretty quickly) all season. He clearly has a phobia about those throws and these guys are just now noticing? Of course, don’t even get me started about why the Braves coaching staff haven’t dealt with it – something’s got to be done.
And for those that don’t think KJ helped botch that play at first today…sure, had Moylan fielded the ball cleanly and fired to first right away there wouldn’t have been a problem, but Kelly failed to get himself positioned properly…to give Moylan a decent target (inside the baseline) to throw to…as a result the throw hit the runner in the helmet and KJ almost got his a** run over.
Bottom line, I don’t blame Conrad for being surprised at being sent down and his comment about their being able to ‘keep all these guys’ says a lot about the one thing that bothers me about Bobby – he plays favorites for reasons that don’t seem to have anything to do with ability.
monty
July 23rd, 2009
6:33 pm
Roger Mcdowell throw away whatever book you have on Randy Winn, he hits the league at a .269 clip and against the Braves he is hitting .434 this year. And historically has hit us well as DOB said.
jed
July 23rd, 2009
6:36 pm
john–KJ should NOT be on the roster. if you like the guy, as i sorta do, it should be obvious to you that he should be in gwinnett, trying to reclaim his career. maybe he can help in september. right now, it’s a disservice to both him and the team to have him in atlanta.
Paul Lentz
July 23rd, 2009
6:37 pm
keylargo…………if you take away Prado’s July from his stats this year, he still would be batting .299 for the season. In 2008, Prado batted .320 in 228 at-bats.
So, you might want to do some better research, before you make postings like the one you did at 6:27pm. (you said that Prado would be a .261 hitter if you took away his July).
TommyP
July 23rd, 2009
6:39 pm
Enough about the Conrad move. Geez… This was a way to keep all players in the system so they chose it wisely. If Norton is still struggling come mid-August and the Braves are still strong players for a playoff spot, they’ll make a move for a veteran pinch hitter. If not, they’ll bring Conrad back up.
Braves supposedly sent 2 scouts to the Dodgers AA affiliate to scout some prospects. Could this be a possible Vazquez destination????? What would the Braves want in return??? No doubt a prospect but wouldn’t they get a major league player as well to help them for THIS season?
I wouldn’t mind the prospect being Joshua Bell, a 22 year old big 3B with nice plate awaremess.
What is everyone thinking with a possible Dodgers deal?
Paul Lentz
July 23rd, 2009
6:40 pm
jeffrey d…………….players have to make adjustments in baseball. There are players all the time who cant substain good play over a period of time.
I’ve used this quote before: As the late Bill Walsh said “It is better to get rid of a player a year too early……..then a year too late”. He used this mantra to trade Joe Montana and release Roger Craig and Ronnie Lott, even when they had some “gas left in the tank”.
Bobby's Cox
July 23rd, 2009
6:40 pm
Keylargo,
What did I ask? I forget. I don’t think I asked anything question regarding KJ. I’m actually defending the guy right now and Bobby and Wren’s decision and reasoning.
I know KJ “has potential”. He always has, still might. But I want no part of it. The team is better with a guy who works the pitcher, and that guy is Prado. Hitting is contagious, and the team in general starting getting better AB’s once Martin was inserted into the lineup.
My stance behind giving Martin a chance has always been what Monty posted at the top of the page at 5:35. Go back and read it. It says look at the splits. Bobby, Wren, and the rest of the team know his splits are an issue. Hopefully a team is willing to take a chance that he evens those splits out with them, or goes on another last season surge like he did last September. Like I said, him hitting now, 9 days before the deadline, is a GOOD thing.
We really need a reliever, I’m not sure if you’ve noticed….
John
July 23rd, 2009
6:40 pm
jed
You wouldn’t rather have KJ on the roster …than Norton?…and when you answer “Yes”…tell me who should be on the roster instead of KJ…
Bobby's Cox
July 23rd, 2009
6:42 pm
Enough baseball talk for one day…I’m gonna start flirting with cabravesfan
Paul Lentz
July 23rd, 2009
6:42 pm
John…………….I said this yesterday. The only way I would be ok with having Kelly Johnson on this roster right now………would be if Greg Norton was released.
However, getting sending down Brooks Conrad, just to make room for Kelly, was a BIG MISTAKE.
Vinings Jim
July 23rd, 2009
6:43 pm
cabravesfan – are you still at work? Go home and watch the replays of the perfect game (you could skip our 8th inning).
cabravesfan
July 23rd, 2009
6:44 pm
Bobby’s Cox-
Can’t say how long I’ll be around (leaving work in about 15 minutes for the nice hour long commute home…) but I’m here now
cabravesfan
July 23rd, 2009
6:45 pm
VJ-
almost that time…
SOS
July 23rd, 2009
6:45 pm
Bobby Cox has got to be the stupidist SOB in the game. He kept his boy Norton, brought up his other man crush KJ, and brought in Moylan to blow another game. When will we be shed of this old fool. Its unbelievable.
Mean
July 23rd, 2009
6:46 pm
Yeah Bobby’s! Stick it inerass !!
Braves73
July 23rd, 2009
6:46 pm
It’s really not that surprising that Bobby genius decided to send down the hot hitting Conrad for the not hitting Kelly Johnson. There is not logical explanation for this move other than a “hunch” of Bobby. The real problem with this and the Norton move, is that Bobby will find a way to put Kelly Johnson back at 2nd base and make the “he needs a couple of days off” b.s. The fact is that Prado has completely turned the whole lineup around. He has single handely helped the Braves in wins against the Phillies and Mets and continues to be the table setter at the top of the lineup. This move will HAUNT the Braves because Bobby will find a way to excuse this b.s…see the Mets game in which Norton pinch hit with the bases loaded in a 2-1 game in the 8th only to miss three straight fastballs. THIS MOVE(S) STINKS!
Bobby's Cox
July 23rd, 2009
6:46 pm
It’s cool cabraves..I won’t be here much longer anyway. I’ll be driving to Pasadena soon.
Sounds like you need an iphone so u can flirt while in traffic…
Random
July 23rd, 2009
6:46 pm
nrtnscks (July 23rd, 2009 3:18 pm): “I don’t care how many singles Kotchman hits, he NEVER comes through with a hit when we need it!”
12 Apr v WAS, Braves up 7-5, bottom 8th, Kotchman singles in Braves’ 6th (insurance) run;
15 Apr v FLO, Braves down 4-1, bottom 5th, 0 outs, Kotchman doubles to drive in Braves’ 2nd run;
19 Apr @ PIT, Braves up 2-0, bottom 1st, 2 outs, Kotchman singles in Braves’ 3rd run;
21 Apr @ WAS, 0-0, top 1st, Kotchman doubles in Braves’ 1st run, scores Braves’ 3rd run;
7 May @ FLO — Braves win 4-2, Kotchman 3 for 4 (1B, 2B, HR), 2 RBIs, 1 R;
8 May @ PHI, Braves down 10-3, top 9th, 0 out, Kotchman hits 3-R HR;
10 May @ PHI — Braves win 4-2, Kotchman 3 for 5 (1B, 2 2Bs), 3 RBIs;
11 May @ NYN, Braves up 3-1, top 7th, 2 out, Kotchman singles in Braves’ 4th & 5th runs;
12 May @ NYN, 0-0, top 4th, 2 out, Kotchman singles in Braves’ 1st run;
19 May v COL, 0-0, bottom 1st, Kotchman doubles, scores Braves 1st run; Braves up 2-0, bottom 2nd, Kotchman singles in Braves 3rd run;
22 May v TOR — Braves win 1-0, Kotchamn 1-3 (1B), 1 RBI;
23 May v TOR — Braves win 4-3, Kotchman 1 for 4 (2B), 2 RBIs;
25 May @ SFN, Braves down 3-1, top 6th, 1 out, Kotchman walks “driving” in Braves 2nd run;
27 May @SFN, Braves down 2-0, top 6th, Kotchman singles in Braves’ 1st run;
28 May @ ARI, Braves down 5-1, top 8th, Kotchman singles in Braves’ 2nd run;
18 Jun @ CIN, 0-0, top 2nd, Kotchman SF “drives” in Braves’ 1st run;
25 Jun v NYA, Braves down 8-1, bottom 4th, Kotchman doubles in Braves’ 2nd & 3rd runs, scores Braves’ 4th run;
2 Jul v PHI, 0-0, bottom 4th, Kotchman homers driving in Braves’ 1st 2 runs.
Never, huh?
Admit it – you are one malicious, mouthy, mouthbreathing, ignorant scum bench, aren’t you?
PS: nrtnscks (July 23rd, 2009 3:49 pm): ”Yeah, one of those days of abysmally poor decisions by our “Hall-of-Fame” manager. Quickly 0-2 to Kelly, here comes strike 3.”
Your and idiot.
PPS: Nick (July 23rd, 2009 3:57 pm): ”If we are indeed buyers at the end of the month, we HAVE to upgrade 1B if we want a chance at the postseason. Definately need to get rid of some dead weight (Kotchman, Norton, Diory, Moylan).”
U2.
PPPS: Kudos to Gone Viral (July 23rd, 2009 3:56 pm), The Bird and Indian (July 23rd, 2009 3:23 pm), N Nine (July 23rd, 2009 3:21 pm) and Wayne in Utah
July 23rd, 2009 2:35 pm).
cabravesfan
July 23rd, 2009
6:47 pm
Bobby’s Cox-
I’ve got one…
Ugh- pasadena- have fun with that one
Vinings Jim
July 23rd, 2009
6:48 pm
Bobby’s Cox – way ahead of you
monty
July 23rd, 2009
6:48 pm
“Kelly only had 1 good month in a year and a half”
THat is a complete misrepresentation! He had 2 last year! I believe June and September he hit over .300 with power and a very good OBP. The problem is for 4 months he hit .230 with very minimum pop. Not hit 2 months, hit for 1 month, not hit 3 months, hit for 1 month. If anyone can put up with that Jekyl/Hyde schitzophrenic hitting to come out with a .289 avg. every year, you must like waiting for water to boil or watching grass grow.
Roman Gal
July 23rd, 2009
6:49 pm
I liked it better when the Braves were winning.
Bobby's Cox
July 23rd, 2009
6:50 pm
Cabraves…
it’s against traffic for me…get to drive fast with the radio blasting. Love the drive.
Not sure if you’ve been to Bodega. I’m sure they have some nice Chardonnay….
monty
July 23rd, 2009
6:50 pm
At a (boy)? RAndom!!
John
July 23rd, 2009
6:50 pm
Guys
I THINK…Paul just said that KJ SHOULD be on the roster…and Norton shouldn’t be…please adjust all bad-mouthin’ of my boy KJ accordingly….tia
ncscoots
July 23rd, 2009
6:50 pm
Enough baseball talk for one day
I love ya, man, but you got a real loose definition of “baseball talk”. By the time you roll through all of Paulette’s stuff and the frothing at the mouth brought on by a loss, yowsah.
Paulette Dense: the girl who could be taught more about baseball by the guy who DIDN’T buy “Baseball For Dummies”.
Paul Lentz
July 23rd, 2009
6:51 pm
DirtyDawg………..I agree 100% with your 6:33pm posting. It is just DISHEARTENING to see a pattern of playing favorites continue, to the detriment of the team.
We are going to need contributions from ALL 25 guys if we are going to make a serious run at the play-offs. Do you think that the Phillies win the World Series last year without key contributions from Greg Dobbs, Matt Stairs, and Geoff Jenkins off the bench? There were games last post season that Charlie Manuel was able to plug the right pinch hitter and reliever into the game to get a key hit or get an important out.
I believe that Frank Wren wants to put those kind of guys on the Braves, players who can contribute both in the bullpen and on the bench.
But COME ON! Greg freaking Norton? In a play-off game, do you really want to see Peter Moylan, Jeff Bennett, or Buddy Carlyle coming up in the 6th, 7th, or even 8th inning (on nights that Gonzalez cant go) of a close ball game? It’s those kinds of scenarios that scare me.
Bobby's Cox
July 23rd, 2009
6:51 pm
VJ,
yes I’ve noticed. Damn. Don’t you have to go walk your cat or something?
jeffrey d
July 23rd, 2009
6:52 pm
I liked it better when the Braves were winning.
I smell a fire sale coming on. And willieg is the auctioneer
Rob from SC
July 23rd, 2009
6:52 pm
Does anyone know why Cory Gearrin was sent down to class A.
JP Swain
July 23rd, 2009
6:53 pm
Just what is that Prado has to do to go from being the starter “for now” to the STARTER? Johnson has had a miserable year, isn’t even remotely consistent, and falls far behind Prado in fielding.
Conrad was far more convincing in his stint than Johnson has been at any time this year.
Bobby needs a bigger set of jacobs when it comes to telling guys they’ve had it with his club.
cabravesfan
July 23rd, 2009
6:53 pm
Bobby’s Cox-
never been there…sounds nice though
(and VJ has a dog…sort of)
Vinings Jim
July 23rd, 2009
6:53 pm
Bobb’s – It’s a dog, damn it!
Mr. Scary
July 23rd, 2009
6:53 pm
The problem is for 4 months he hit .230 with very minimum pop
This is the problem with doing month-by-month splits, “he’s done this since x date” splits, etc–you can skew or misrepresent the numbers any way you want. Facts are, he hit .287/.350/.446 in 2008. That’s pretty good. That’s above-average production. Period, endofstory.
Paul Lentz
July 23rd, 2009
6:53 pm
TommyP……….if the Braves wait until mid August to give Kelly and Greg Norton a chance to “prove that they still have something left in the tank”………we could end up being so far behind that it may not even matter.
I have a bad feeling that our bullpen will continue to blow games. And with Jeff Bennett due back soon, lol, OMG, lol.
Random
July 23rd, 2009
6:53 pm
Thanks, monty!
Jake W.
July 23rd, 2009
6:53 pm
KJ this, Prado that, to take a cue from Lovie Smith, Prado is our 2nd baseman. That’s it right now. Bobby is playing the hot hand. The guy is not about to start playing KJ more, not with what Prado is doing. Our lineup is working right now for the most part. Now we got to get McLouth swinging again but other than that we are fine.
Bobby's Cox
July 23rd, 2009
6:54 pm
Scoots,
who’s this Paulette you’re talking about? I’m not sure I’ve noticed any of their posts. I just see Chinese every so often…could be what you’re indicating no?
cabravesfan
July 23rd, 2009
6:54 pm
Bobby’s Cox/ VJ-
time for me to head home- might be around later if either (or both) of you are here…
Later
McFann :Ô:
July 23rd, 2009
6:54 pm
BravesfaninWis–
Boog is hilarious. I’ve said it before, but I really like his delivery. Just says things in a funny way. Joe does, too, when he’s with Boog.
He and Simpson seem to have a good chemistry calling games together.
They really do.
Here are the instructions on bolding and other stuff. Sorry for the delay.
Mr. Scary
July 23rd, 2009
6:54 pm
Random, top-notch work, per usual.
jed
July 23rd, 2009
6:56 pm
john– you seem not to understand my point about KJ. he needs a long break from the majors to get himself together. the longer, the more beneficial for him. yet, after his horrible season, and devastated confidence, you want to bring him back this soon. (guess you dont recall the francoeur scenario?) maybe he can help later in the season, but bringing him back now is way premature. do i like norton? not right now i dont. i’d send him to AAA for at-bats asap and then bring him up and make a decision on him. i’m not opposed to DFA’ing him. eventually i’d probably trade for another PH. so to answer your question, i’d say yeah i would have kept conrad in atlanta. and no, i dont really want KJ OR norton in atlanta right now. you’ll probably skim this and decide i dont like KJ. what i want is patience with KJ so that he can regain his confidence and swing.
Roman Gal
July 23rd, 2009
6:58 pm
I smell a fire sale coming on.
NO FIRE!!!
You pyromaniacs are INSANE!
Bobby's Cox
July 23rd, 2009
6:58 pm
cabraves,
it’s very nice…you’ll forget you’re in Pasadena. Enough wine you’ll forget the Braves lost today too.
But, it’s no Phillippe’s.
Bobby's Cox
July 23rd, 2009
6:59 pm
drive safe cabraves. guess we’ll settle this dog/cat thing out while you’re gone…..
John
July 23rd, 2009
7:01 pm
I luvs “my boy” KJ….but…I wouldn’t put him at 2B over Prado…for all the tea in China (Or EVEN…if it gave me the right to kick Paul in the nads…TWICE…)
jeffrey d
July 23rd, 2009
7:02 pm
John – Paul (and others) act like KJ has no business being on the 25 man roster. They cite that he had “one good month” in 2008 and act like the rest of his career was a mixture of Ks, GIDPs, and slipping on banana peels.
I’ll cite the number again – from 2007-2008 he’s hit .281 with 100+ extra base hits. He’s not been too stellar so far this year (although he’s had some hot streaks), but I wouldn’t give up on him. Not to mention he hit the ball great in Gwinnett
Roman Gal
July 23rd, 2009
7:02 pm
I’m glad that we don’t have to hear about the last perfect game being against the Braves anymore.
Poor Eddie Perez will live in infamy for the rest of his days…
ncscoots
July 23rd, 2009
7:02 pm
Bobby’s, that’s just my little “pet” name for my newest favorite “blogger”, Paul Dense. He knows less about baseball than a 10-year-old girl in Little League, so, it just seems appropriate.
Chris
July 23rd, 2009
7:03 pm
I hear the Nats may be shopping Adam Dunn. Shouldn’t the Braves at least ask them what it would take to get him? He can play LF and 1B, hits 40+ HR’s, 120+ RBI, and his OBP has been going up every year for like the last 3-5 years. I’d say it’d probably be worth just about whatever the Nats ask for – within reason of course (that means no Heyward or Freeman).
Supes
July 23rd, 2009
7:03 pm
I thought that Javy Vazquez has a limited no trade clause, as in no NL or AL West teams?
Last time I checked Dodgers are in the NL West. So I have no idea why Braves scouts would be checking out AA Dodgers games while Wren is “secretly” shopping Javy Vazquez.
If we DO deal Javy V. I hope to get at least 1 top tier prospect back, and hopefully a 3B prospect as well, b/c Chipper is not getting any younger.
Vinings Jim
July 23rd, 2009
7:03 pm
Bobby’s Cox – definitely a dog – she (cabravesfan) gives me a hard time because her dog could eat mine and still be hungry.
dogsbrekky
July 23rd, 2009
7:03 pm
Tommy – rather we were scouting the mlb Dodgies and get Kemp, but I can dream hey !
John
July 23rd, 2009
7:04 pm
jed..I understand all that…just wondering WHO you would bring up to help the team …assuming both Norton and KJ are sent down or “out”…I think KJ would be the “most” help to the team…you think there’s somebody else…just wonderin’ who that “somebody else” is?
jeffrey d
July 23rd, 2009
7:05 pm
I’ve said it before, but I really like his delivery. Just says things in a funny way McFann
I completely agree. Boog can be VERY dry and he delivers it perfectly. Might just be because I have a dry sense of humor too, but I think he’s great.
dogsbrekky
July 23rd, 2009
7:06 pm
McFann – I know I am in the singular minority here but BOOG just makes me uncomfortable, every time I hear him I just want to smack him in the gob
cdog
July 23rd, 2009
7:06 pm
WITH KELLY JOHNSON BACK THE LOSING STARTS ALL OVER AGAIN. YOU ARE GOING TO TELL ME BROOK CONRAD IS NOT BETTER THAN KELLY JOHNSON?PLEASE. JOHNSON IS BOBBY COXS DRINKING BUDDY. THE WINNING WAS FUN WHILE IT LASTED.
jeffrey d
July 23rd, 2009
7:06 pm
Poor Eddie Perez will live in infamy for the rest of his days…
Because whenever I think of Eddie Perez I curse him for sealing that perfect game
Supes
July 23rd, 2009
7:07 pm
I hear the Nats may be shopping Adam Dunn. Shouldn’t the Braves at least ask them what it would take to get him? He can play LF and 1B, hits 40+ HR’s, 120+ RBI, and his OBP has been going up every year for like the last 3-5 years. I’d say it’d probably be worth just about whatever the Nats ask for – within reason of course (that means no Heyward or Freeman).
****************
Chris, the Nats temp. GM came out and said they are NOT trading Adam Dunn. Now if you ask me personally would he would say such a MORONIC statement, who knows. Adam Dunn is NOT the main draw in Washington D.C. They only have him for next year at 10 million I believe. He is a productive POWER hitter that the Braves could surely use, but since the Nats aren’t trading him…and the Braves are not giving up on Schafer, Freeman, Heyward or Johnson…it’s not going to happen.
BTW…I hope everyone here realizes, we could have SIGNED Adam Dunn to that deal or even thrown in a bit more, 2 for 22 or 11 million per season and NOT signed KK to a 3 year 23 million deal.
But nothing you can do about that, apparently Wren never targeted Adam Dunn in the off-season as a possiblity.
Shamus Thacker
July 23rd, 2009
7:08 pm
Took a nap and had another Bobby-Valentine-in-the-Braves-dugout nightmare. Willie Randolph was batting coach. Jeff Bennett was pitching coach and closer.
Awakened by neighbor doing Heimlich Maneuver and screaming I hope you die. He kinda hates me, but thought it was his civic and moral duty to save the life of someone he’d prefer to torture-kill..
Any-damn-way, started when neighbor heard me screaming CHOKING to the tops of my lungs. Said I was yelling “where’s Bobby” between gasps….
New Back-On-The-Bobby-Cox-Bandwagon member… Not because of my horrific terror-engulfed dreamland , but because there’s really not a better one out there.
jeffrey d
July 23rd, 2009
7:08 pm
YOU TELL EM CDOG!
Paul Lentz
July 23rd, 2009
7:09 pm
monty……..here are kelly’s batting average and OPS, by month, for 2008:
………………….average………..OPS
April……………..(.235)………….(.730)
May……………..(.355)………….(.973)
June…………….(.250)………….(.723)
July……………..(.224)…………..(.661)
August…………(..237)………….(.577)
Sept…………….(.398)…………(1.072)
So Kelly has 2 good months…….and sucks the other 4 months?
And what about this year so far?
…………………..Batting average………OPS……
April………………..(.203)……………….(.686)
May…………………(.297)……………….(.828)
June………………..(.125)……………….(.396)
A decent April sandwiched between two SUCK A$$ months.
I want players who will consistently produce. I dont want to see the Braves “gamble” a player sucking A$$ for a month (or even two months) before he finds his stroke, only to find out that it is only good for “one month”, lol.
dogsbrekky
July 23rd, 2009
7:11 pm
Shamus – Jeff Bennett was the pitching Coach, I almost choked on my shiraz, nh sir !
Willie Randolph gets the short end of the straw, like always, charming guy, sincere and does a lot of good in the world. I have said all along the way the Wilpooooon-heads treated him would result in bad karma for many a moon…
Paul Lentz
July 23rd, 2009
7:12 pm
jeffrey d………..again, Kelly deserves to be here over Greg Norton, NOT Brooks Conrad. If Frank Wren wasnt willing to cut Greg Norton, he should have kept Kelly at Triple A.
keylargo
July 23rd, 2009
7:12 pm
PaulLentz
June the 20th, Prado was hitting .261. He may have had 15 or 20 abs before the first.
You are such an arrogantass.
Mr. Scary
July 23rd, 2009
7:12 pm
I want players who will consistently produce.
Then you’ll be waiting a long time, you unbelievable buffoon.
Bobby's Cox
July 23rd, 2009
7:13 pm
So VJ,
Why do you have such a small dog? Did you get stuck with it after a relationship?
ncscoots
July 23rd, 2009
7:14 pm
So, Paulette, give me an instance of a player you deem consistent, eh? Don’t look it up, just give me one off the top of your head, that immediately comes to mind as consistent. Can you do that for me? Quickly, now.
Bobby's Cox
July 23rd, 2009
7:15 pm
scoots,
my bad, i thought she was a 10 year old girl in little league. a chinese speaking one. i tried to read it but Google won’t even translate that sh!t.
monty
July 23rd, 2009
7:15 pm
What you get with KJ is what you get, a hot streak here and there mixed in with alot or 0 fors, called 3rd strikes right down the middle. Weak groundballs to 2b. Easy popups. When he isn’t hitting and that is often, he is an easier out than Frenchy ever was. When he hits he is like the best hitter in the league. If there was any consistency at all in his game I wouldn’t waste my time writing this. But there just isn’t. Will there be one day? That just remains to be seen. Why he goes into these extended slumps so oten I suppose only God knows and he isn’t sharing. I used to be a KJ fan and defended him earlier in the year. But he made an unbeliever out of me. I know it’s painful for some of you to not believe, after all believing is what kept Tinker Bell alive.
dogsbrekky
July 23rd, 2009
7:17 pm
I was actually surprised today that Bobby took so long to get thrown out, that home plate sonofabitch would have needed protection as early as the 2nd inning today if I were coaching
fortunately we have a hof guy as manager, 4th most wins in history but I suppose for all you Bobby hating tools that love stats, THOSE STATS do not count hey !
keylargo
July 23rd, 2009
7:18 pm
Bobby’s C
I heard you talking about a triathlon a few days ago. What’s your background sport and are you any good? I did 30 or 35 of them awhile back. Maybe I need to capitalize awhile?
Supes
July 23rd, 2009
7:18 pm
Wren’s plan of action so the Braves have a shot at success include:
Shipping KJ, Peter Moylan and Jeff Bennett to another team (and get back whatever you can in return)
DFA Greg Norton
Get back Omar Infante, send down Diory Hernadez. Bring back Brooks Conrad (when KJ is traded)
Paul Lentz
July 23rd, 2009
7:18 pm
ncscoots………..you call me names…..yet I’m not the one who wants to see our roster riddled with BUMS who dont produce.
The players that I advocate for, ALL PRODUCE. Since the year started, I said “Keep Garret Anderson (even though he was struggling in April………..play Matt Diaz and Martin Prado more (even though most people considered them to be “part time players”)…………stick with Kenshin Kawakami (when he was getting rocked in April)………….be patient with Derek Lowe (even though he struggled during June).
All the above I said be patient with those guys. So dont tell me that “I dont know anything about baseball”. I “know enough” about baseball to be patient with the right guys, while “knowing enough” when to DUMP THE BUMS.
Hate me all you want, but go back and find ONE POSTING in the past few months I’ve made where I was WRONG about either having faith in or dumping a player. FIND ONE, then get back to me.
Bobby's Cox
July 23rd, 2009
7:19 pm
scoots,
i’m gonna go ahead an answer your question because it involves my favorite major leaguer and paulette is still researching….
Ichiro has been pretty consistent throughout his 9 seasons….
Supes
July 23rd, 2009
7:19 pm
The only way Bobby will stop using:
KJ, Moyland, Norton and (Bennett when he gets back from the broken hand) is if they are NOT on the 25 man roster.
KJ, Moyland can be traded RIGHT freakign now.
Bennett, he doesn’t return until September? (expanded rosters)
DFA Greg Norton
dogsbrekky
July 23rd, 2009
7:19 pm
monty and scoots, – re consistency, Chipper hits 300 almost always, Jeter, Helton, old Tony Gwynn in the day etc etc…. funny how the consistent are the hof guys hey !
Vinings Jim
July 23rd, 2009
7:20 pm
Bobby’s Cox – very insightful on the ex – still sharing her, actually. Works really well in an apartment, however.
dogsbrekky
July 23rd, 2009
7:21 pm
Paul Lentz – you forgot your numerous erroneous (spelling ?) postings about god…. EOFS
Paul Lentz
July 23rd, 2009
7:21 pm
Yunel Escobar is consistent. Another is Brian McCann. And of course Chipper.
keylargo
July 23rd, 2009
7:22 pm
dogsbrekky
And CJ has hit .400 and .280 if I may make a point.
Doc Holiday
July 23rd, 2009
7:24 pm
Braves just traded Bobby Cox and Norton to the Dodger for Torre and a player to be named later…………stay tuned.
Jake W.
July 23rd, 2009
7:24 pm
Good to hear that Gonzo is all right. We most definitely need him in the bullpen. KK has got to learn how to get people out with less pitches. That was his problem today, not to mention he didn’t really seem to get any borderline calls while Zito benefited from them the whole game. That strike on Escobar was ridiculous and the way the ump talked to Bobby was well, unprofessional. I understand the umps aren’t perfect so the guy missing the pickoff call at 2nd while it hurt at the time was more understandable to me than flat out missing balls and strikes calls. Some of these umpires and their ego’s, I don’t know. Some time they need a talking to like Escobar gets at times. And for once I would like to see my Braves benefit from the dumb rule that calls for the runner going to 1st to not run in fair territory. God knows we have been burned by the rule.
Bobby's Cox
July 23rd, 2009
7:24 pm
Largo,
My background sports are actually baseball and soccer. I was pretty good but never pursued them. I like to think I’m a pretty good athlete. I played them all actually. I was pretty fast and coordinated so I could use my speed and do pretty well at anything.
That’s cool that you did so many tri’s. Damn, that’s really impressive actually. Good for you man. We’ll see how this one goes. I start training on Saturday, though I’ve been weight training for a month and playing soccer to build my endurance a bit.
If you want to check out my donations page, let me know
John
July 23rd, 2009
7:25 pm
I would have NO problem whatsoever if Wren traded “my boy” KJ…10 minutes from now…or 10 minutes ago for that matter. I simply think…given our present roster….that IF you removed both KJ and Norton…and replaced those 2 players…AND assuming Conrad is one of the “replacements”…I think KJ would be more likely to help us at the moment than whoever the 2nd “replacement” would be…jmo
Be-little, BeBOLD
July 23rd, 2009
7:26 pm
Another decision based on LOVE instead of PRODUCTION! Cox keeps Norton and sends Conrad down #@#!!* . . . now that was stupid REAL stupid!!! And how long will McLoucoeur stay in lead-off spot popping up and striking out (3 for last 31)???
dogsbrekky
July 23rd, 2009
7:26 pm
keylargo – but 280 is not exactly abysmal now is it. A few games back some gonad wrote an article about how McCann was hurting us with his lack of power … of course said superstar catcher then went and ripped off many a pitcher’s head… I sincerely hope KJ produces and stops the fielding lapses (much in the way I hope Chipper also remembers the latter) but I suspect it is not going to happen enough to make us denizens happy
keylargo
July 23rd, 2009
7:27 pm
I still ride 200 a week. Only been ran over once in the last year.
Mr. Scary
July 23rd, 2009
7:27 pm
Yunel Escobar is consistent. Another is Brian McCann. And of course Chipper.
Yunel OPSed .665 in June. Fail
Brian McCann has a sub-.700 OPS against lefties. Fail.
You really are a MORON, aren’t you?
Or should we indeed not use small sample sizes? What to do, what to do…
Bobby's Cox
July 23rd, 2009
7:28 pm
Ya VJ, it doesn’t seem like you’d be a person that would intentionally get a small dog. Those are usually female decisions.
Bobby's Cox
July 23rd, 2009
7:28 pm
VJ,
btw, I hope you meant you’re still sharing the dog, not the ex
south georgia phil
July 23rd, 2009
7:29 pm
Hey NRTNSCKS, you are on the money! Another…”Bobby Cox is the most loyal manager to his players….blah blah blah”. I COULD NOT believe my ears when I heard Conrad had been sent down- it was He and Prado who have been the main players in the offensive resurgence! Mark my words, fellow braves bloggers, hope I’m wrong, but this may turn out to be another bone-headed Bobby Cox move that costs us dearly… HE WAS HITTING 11-32!!!!!
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July 23rd, 2009
7:30 pm
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July 16th, 2009
9:53 pm
LOL, Freaking Greg Norton, delivers a clutch hit and much needed insurance run. We need him to get hot as a pinch hitter for us to have a chance in the 2nd half.
jed
July 23rd, 2009
7:30 pm
john–i’d have kept conrad on the team. would just as soon make a trade tonight for a replacement for norton. that’s what i’d do for “help.” however, cox aint gonna give up on norton for at least another couple of weeks, so all that’s kind of a moot point. my point about how they should handle KJ is a significant one, and so that’s why i emphasized that.
dogsbrekky
July 23rd, 2009
7:31 pm
keylargo – move to NY, they would try their best to kill you in the 1st week… actually had a nimrod cabbie driver tell me I deserved to die for riding in Central Park the other day,
I told him his national cricket team sucked rotten egg gas, so figure I got the upper hand, but I better watch my six next time I ride in the park..
FWIW – I used to do sprint triathlons (in my late 30s) before I got ill but my swimming and riding are very poor as far as the competition goes
keylargo
July 23rd, 2009
7:34 pm
Bobby’s
Post your donation info. site
typical bored blogger copying everbody else
July 23rd, 2009
7:35 pm
Phillies and Pads 0-0 going to the top of 3rd…. sayed tuned, i’ll be here all night, baby!!
keylargo
July 23rd, 2009
7:37 pm
I thought you were supposed to ride in Central Park Dogsbrekky?
Paul Lentz
July 23rd, 2009
7:37 pm
ncscoots…….here are 3 good examples of “consistency”:
…………… Escobar………..McCann…………..Chipper……….
………..Batting…OPS….Batting….OPS…..Batting…….OPS
April…(..274)…(.740)…(..195)…(..748)….(..322)…..(.928)
May….(.319)…(.916)…(.3940…(1.057)….(.312)……(.937)
June…(..277)..(.665)…(..295)…(.937)…..(.247)…….(.801)
July….(.400)…(1.203)..(..296)..(.804)……(.298)……(.902)
Now, those are what I call “pretty consistent numbers”. Sure, some months are higher than others. However, with the exception of McCann’s April (due to his eye problems), none of the other months for those 3 are what one could consider “terrible”. I see decent months mixed in with HOT months. I dont see a number of “Kelly Johnson type cold spells” mixed in there.