1:12 pm July 23, 2009, by David O'Brien
July 23rd, 20094:56 pm
Team looked very flat today compared to last night. I wonder if BC sending down the wrong guy produced some bad Kharma. I wouldn’t have said that except BC is the one who believes sitting at the other end of the “doughout”(he-he!) will change the teams luck!!
July 23rd, 2009
BC is looking at KJ right now like a drunk looks at a shot of whiskey!
Great analogy. Bobby is an addict when it comes to KJ the freakin fraud. Wren made Bobby go cold turkey when he traded Frenchy. Maybe he will get rid of The Fraud too.
I keep hearing this argument about what Kelly and Norton did last year. The thing that some of you forget is that something in MLB, a player just “loses it”. 2 classic examples are Dontrelle Wills and Maggilio Ordonez.
Dontrelle was a pitching machine, destined for stardom. Then POOF, he couldnt throw strikes anymore. Ordonez the same way. He goes from hitting home runs for a number of years to being worse then even Jeff Francoeur.
Yet some of you want to keep hoping that the 2008 versions of Greg Norton and Kelly Johnson will return. Wishful thinking.
July 23rd, 20094:57 pm
THe Braves are playing .750 ball so far in the 2nd half. They have a lot of ground to make up, and need to string together some winning streaks, but if they can win 3 out every 4, thye’ll be ok.
Just a positive spin on a bad loss.
Hey Paul -
I appreciate your passion for the Braves, I really do. But still – you’ve made the point on Kelly vs Conrad and the fear of Bennett/Carlyle at least 5 times today….we get it.
Cox has lost it
Kelly being in in the 8th certaily didn’t help us win. I don’t understand those of you who defend this clown.
July 23rd, 20094:58 pm
Here’s what Huddy said on Sirius XM’s Home Plate Channel today. He’s a regular on there:
Tim Hudson: “Right now I’m pretty much in spring training mode. So I’ll go three innings tonight, I’ll have three days off and then I’ll go four innings in Gwinnett. And I think I’m going to work up to six innings and I think my last rehab start is supposed to be scheduled for the (Aug.) 15th. So I’ll be ready to come up to the big club after that, help them out hopefully. The way things are going, I’ll tell you what, man, our pitching’s been really, really good all year. Our starting pitching’s been really great. So it’s going to be a good problem for them to have. Our pitching’s been good. I’m going to be healthy, ready to come back and help us in whatever way they need me.”
Gotta take 2/3 from the Brew crew now
Oh and Soph? No Braves fan in the history of Braves fans will get a better braves birthday gift than the one I got.
Oh, I cann totally picture Yunel in a chef’s hat! That is too funny…Chipper in the apron is coming to me…LOL! Good stuff…BMac’s diet is going to be shot for sure!
DOB Chipper said he was yelling “first, first, first” to Moylan and Ross was yelling “three, three, three” for him to go to third. “Just a miscommunication,” Chipper said.
Oh, that’s nice.
It wasn’t the pitch he was lookign for, cause he was completely off balance. He was fooled. It happens.
And Lord knows Chipper knows more about hitting than I ever will, but even Boog was talking about it after the at-bat — how Chipper will sometimes get into these ruts where he swings at the first pitch every time.
He’s too good a hitter to not make Zito work.
“Lose an Andruw gain an Andruw”…lol I’ll never forget that quote from ST awhile back
This Blog is Full of People Who Are Full Of Themselves
July 23rd, 20094:59 pm
Steve from OH July 23rd, 2009 4:36 pm
I can be a douche sometimes. I don’t know how to play well with others yet.
Yet another example.
BravoMan…………I didnt say it was the reason. I said it possibly “set the tone”.
Sometimes a team gets excited when a player returns from the disable list who they know will contribute. Well, the reverse can also happen when someone leaves the team who should stay.
And an “ultra slow throw” doesn’t constitute an error… at least according to the rule book.
I m free!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wayne- I agree with you, how about that. I thought the same thing. So much being said about Bobby vs Esco, and Bobby comes out of the dugout and argues for Esco on that ridiculous call. It says a lot to Escobar about how Bobby is behind him.
July 23rd, 20095:01 pm
Besides, today’s game against Zito was VERY winnable. Here’s a guy, who in his last two outings dating back to last year (if Bobby can use Norton’s stats from 2008 to make a decision, I can use them for comparison sakes, right?), has pitched 14 innings allowing 1 ER , and winning 2 games.
Against everybody else? 13-17 with 163 ER allowed in 278.1 IP (5.27 ERA).
I know some guys have teams’ “numbers”, but come on. That’s just bad to not hit this guy.
Like your take on KK. Agree. He is not a consistant seven, eight inning starter, at least not to this point. Long relief would be good, or a sixth starter. But the BRAVES really can’t count on him being available for long-relief frequently. And with the way BOBBY burns through the middle-relief corps with those situational match-ups, he’s just not a good fit for the rotation or the bull-pen. Eight million, ouch!!!! That’s pretty expensive iffy middle relief or sixth man in the rotation. But I’d take him over “the CHAW” with the chips down at crunch-time.
McLouth of the South
What makes “four games over” a benchmark? Last week it was HUGE to get to .500…
And every team “gives” games away. It’s those who give them away the least who come out on top. Two series after the all-star break, two series wins. Keep that up and we’ll be reminiscing about ‘93.
Hey Frank, where’s our McGriff?
I love how some people are putting a little blame on KJ. You wanna throw Francoeur in there too? Maybe he slipped some laxitive in the Gatorade cooler before the game
Steve from OH
July 23rd, 20095:02 pm
You realize that was an imposter, right? Or is this a reference that is going over my head?
DOB or anyone who watches… Sorry I had to watch Gamecast from work but when did BC get tossed and what was the situation?
jeffrey d: Kawakami’s run support, particularly at home, is horrendous. Hard to believe, really, how bad it is. The Braves have scored one or no runs while he’s been SEVEN of his EIGHT home starts. That’s right. Seven of eight. And in five of those, they scored zero runs while he was in.
RHR No Braves fan in the history of Braves fans will get a better braves birthday gift than the one I got.
Yeah…and I thought BMac’s three RBI performance in Filly, which included a 2-run homer, on my b-day was a great Braves gift…course, the Braves lost 12-11, so that put the damper on it.
Gotta love Huddy’s selfless attitude…
A bad throw constitutes an error. So lets call it a bad throw, and make it an error.
July 23rd, 20095:03 pm
DOB @ 5:02–
David O’Brien………….I was VERY ENCOURAGED by Tim Hudson’s “ready to come back and help us in whatever way they need me.” comment in your 4:58pm posting. That gives me a little hope that what I’ve been preaching about the past month and a half concerning what role Hudson should be used in when he comes back……..will happen.
Yet some of you want to keep hoping that the 2008 versions of Greg Norton and Kelly Johnson will return. Wishful thinking.
Whereas you, of course, are able to immediately and perfectly evaluate players, based on Norton’s 40+ ABs and a half-season of Johnson. You, of course, are able to see clearly in a relative split-second of a baseball season what others cannot. You, of course, are just short of a couple of firing synapses.
Still you’ve stated it over and over. Enough it set 0 tone today. The players have played with Kelly long before Conrad. If anything they were happy to see him back and he got a hit today so it’s nothing. No tone change didnt effect the game
July 23rd, 20095:05 pm
I cant believe this crud. Because of an innings pinch on my fantasy team I could only use one pitcher today. I chose Haren instead of Burhle. Cost me 113 points! Talk about your sucky luck.
JEFF: I have read all of your comments and you are dead on my man. Thank you!
Yeah…and I thought BMac’s three RBI performance in Filly, which included a 2-run homer, on my b-day was a great Braves gift McFann
As I recall, we were also promised he’d do the Electric Slide around the basepaths on that day. My life would’ve been complete if that happened. But nope….
You know what? Francoeur’s a Met. We’ll call it even.
Notice that KJ got a hit today off a left hander, he always hits lefties better than righties but Cox always platoons him against righties, more evidence of Cox’s stupidity.
July 23rd, 20095:06 pm
To everyone who defends Kelly Johnson because of his stats last year: you do realize that KJ ended last year on a 20-something-game hitting streak! That’s the only reason his BA was .287! I wonder what his average last year would be if you were to subtract that hitting streak! And Norton may have been somewhat dependable last year, but the man can’t even hit half his body weight this year! It’s too late in the season to be waiting for these two to “come around” when it’s obvious they aren’t going to. WE NEED TO BE PLAYING THE PLAYERS WHO GIVE US THE BEST SHOT AT WINNING EVERY DAY!!!!!!!!!
Good night I had no idea his run supports was that bad. I was just responding to the guy who noted that both our losses have come when KK started. But 7 of 8? That’s awful. Poor guy…
July 23rd, 20095:07 pm
I swear to God, some of you are so dumb you shouldn’t be allowed to watch baseball. KJ and/or Norton had zero effect on the outcome of that game. Paul Lentz actually said sending Conrad down “set the tone” for today’s loss?? Really? How about Chipper’s four terrible AB’s? What about KK needing 100 pitches to get through 5 innings? Maybe it was the terrible defensive execution by the Braves defense?? You can’t blame every loss on Cox and Wren. Most of you come across so poorly on here it’s sad.
Wayne in Utah
KK should be having a team meeting with his offense. “Come on guys, you have taken away half my happiness today!”
July 23rd, 20095:08 pm
If Hudson replaces Kawakami in the rotation, the our best hope is that Hudson can go 6 or 7 innings a night. What good will it do for Hudson to pitch 6-7 innings every time out if Bobby is going to keep using Peter Moylan (and soon Jeff Bennett) to relieve him and they blow the lead? How are we going to continue scoring runs like we have been if Bobby insists on getting Kelly Johnson at-bats so he can “get him going”?
Unless some other things changes, Tim Hudson is not going to make a difference, no matter what role he is used when he comes back. You can BANK ON IT.
It’s funny how all of you whining babies haven’t been heard from in a few days, then the Braves lose a game and you’re here like clockwork.
Cox has lost it,
I don’t understand your point. Kelly was part of a double switch.
July 23rd, 20095:09 pm
That’s brutal dude. I feel your pain.
Nice to see a sane person on here lol.
I’m not asking you to trust my judgment. I was making a comical statement about Chipper’s over aggressive state when facing LH’s recently. Today and against the LH for the Mets last week. Very unChipper like, thought I’d have a little fun with it. I can call you in some chill pills if you like?
ncscoots……….I just know that when you have currently HOT HANDS like Martin Prado and Brooks Conrad on your team contributing……….you dont replace them and HOPE that Kelly Johnson and Greg Norton will “return to their 2008 selves”.
July 23rd, 20095:10 pm
Nah. It was obviously Conrad. If the front office hadn’t called KJ up Conrad would’ve won the game. Oh wait…
Lentz….you truly bring nothing to the table. How many times do you need to post the same exact idea. we get it…you want Huddy in the pen. WE GET IT!!!!
“What makes “four games over” a benchmark? Last week it was HUGE to get to .500…” McLouth of the South
It’s not MY benchmark for them. It’s a benchmark they haven’t been at for some time, other than the first week of the season (on April 12th, they were 5-1). You have to go back to May 29th, of 2008 for the last time the Braves were as much as 4 games over .500 with a 29-25 record. One must learn to crawl before learning to walk. I’m not sure how so many of you just assume this is a playoff team because of a hot 2 or 3 weeks, when it’s been almost 14 months since the team was 4 games over .500 for more than one day?
When they pass that “benchmark” with ease, and continue coasting, get back to me. Until they get there, it IS a big deal.
BTW, if you we’re excited about them getting to .500, you’ve got seriously low standards for this team.
I think this team has ALL the tools to win more games than they lose the rest of the way. But sorry. Not going to be sold on October baseball until they get there.
To everyone who defends Kelly Johnson because of his stats last year: you do realize that KJ ended last year on a 20-something-game hitting streak
Wow, sounds like he really sucks
July 23rd, 20095:11 pm
Yeah, I was promised one of those…dang, he’s broken a few “promises” to me this year, hasn’t he?
But he’s doing his best to make up here in this second “half”. Fewer K’s would be greatly appreciated. But I guess asking for 90 RBI might be too much…?
My life would’ve been complete if that happened. But nope….
LOL! Mine, too.
How annoying it is when your bird “bweeps” every time you press a key! Sheesh! I’m right here, for cryin’ out loud…
BravoMan………….I didnt so much knock the move of bringing Kelly back……..as I did the Braves decision to send down Brooks Conrad INSTEAD of cutting Greg Norton. How can you not understand that?
July 23rd, 20095:13 pm
6-2 Homestand thats a .750 win%. If they can play .750 at home and .500 no the road the rest of the way that should get them in the playoffs so I’m very happy!!!!
me me me
njbraves – sad you have to live in that sheethole state
Yep that’s how most ppl are. I’ve got a friend who’s a cubs fan who only talks to me about the braves when they lose. I jst say ok at least we’ve won the WS in the last 100 years.
July 23rd, 20095:14 pm
ncscoots, I know your 5:03 wasn’t directed at me. But to chime in (you expected me not to?), it’s more about just going with the hot hand. Or a guy who has recently shown (not against AAA pitching), that he can be useful to the club.
Conrad has. Norton hasn’t. It’s just that simple.
For a team with as little margin for error as we have (in both games themselves, and in the standings – both NL East & WC standings), the bench guys might make the difference in 2 or 3 games, which clearly can be make or break in the WC race.
Conrad has already won a few games for us in recent weeks. What has Norton done?
There is no earthly conceivable, rational reason why would have mentioned Brooks Conrad for the 239384th time today. None. Whatsoever. He didn’t play today. How is that different than most of the other games during this winning streak. Brooks Conrad will have as much bearing on tomorrow’s game as he did on yesterday’s. None. We understand. You hate Norton. You love Conrad. Start going to Gwinnett games and be the charter member of “Brooks’ Cooks” and you can wear a chef’s hat and pretend Gary Sheffield is still a Brave. Or jump off a bridge. We don’t care.
Bad move by Cox to send Conrad down in favor of Hernandez or Norton.. Conrad had more hits in his couple of weeks here then Norton has the entire season.. I am sure that Conrad will be back up once KJ gets traded though..
Can you guys and girls consider today’s game to be a choke? We were going up against Barry Zito afterall, and the Braves were riding some serious momentum..
DOB, and chance I can meet Joe Simpson and Boog this Sunday when I head to Miller Park to watch the Braves and Brewers? It would be cool to meet Simpson as I have been following him for a very long time, and Boog is a cool guy..
July 23rd, 20095:15 pm
me me me…sad that all you have to bring to the blog is your meaningless opinion of where I live.
You don’t have to be sold, dude! If we knew what was gonna happen in advance it wouldn’t be any fun to watch… even if the Braves were gonna win every game the rest of the season. Reality is that all these guys, KJ, Norton (one of the better CAREER power hitting PH in the game currently), Conrad, Hernandez, will all have a say before it’s over with. Enjoy the ride no matter how it goes down…
Sorry, I’m sure it’s been discussed ad nauseum today, but I gotta put in my two cents:
Bobby Cox is a blitheirng idiot, a dolt, a moron, and mentally deficient. Does Gerg Norton have naked picutres (UGH!) of Bobby? Why the hell is Norton still on the club? Conrad had the hot hand!
Bobby Cox has officially lost his freakin’ mind!!!
I hear ya, Paul. Norton is a colder, older, and more expensive option than Conrad. His only upside is he’s a switch hitter. whoooo….
Look out, Bobby…he can get an out from BOTH sides of the plate
July 23rd, 20095:16 pm
Call me what you want, I don’t care… Kelly is BAD LUCK! It’s not that we lost this game, just the fact the way we lost brings back haunting memories. Is it a coiencedence that #2 is back? MMMMM…
KK threw too many pitches and worked behind in the count too much but he was robbed of calls that the Giants got all day… some of the Zito strikes on the inner corner were especially egregious !
July 23rd, 20095:17 pm
Paul…I do understand your thought that not cutting Norton was a bad idea. I agree with you. What I don’t understand is your theory of tone setting in today’s game. We lost cuz of our offense and one bad defencive inning. I don’t remember what else you said so no point in arguing here lol
July 23rd, 20095:18 pm
Or, based on the economy, dress up like bums and call yourselves “Brooks’ Brokes”.
That eighth inning was brutal! Like they went out drinking last night and the eighth caught up with them. Brutal.
Thanks for the update/quote from Hudson. Very encouraging and we can’t wait to get our ACE back on the team in mid august.
If Hudson is back to form and can go 6-7 innings per start, HE HAS TO replace KK in the rotation. It makes perfect sense!
I said it earlier, I’ll say it again.
Tim Hudson > Kenshin Kawakami (who can’t control his pitches like he has to in order to be effective and pitch longer than 5 innings per start before he amounts a high pitch count)
Now if Hudson is having a hard time getting past 5 innings, MAYBE moving him to the pen is an option.
I’d wait and see, but if he’s ready and healthy it’s back to the rotation. Otherwise, how do you know what you’ll have in Huddy for 2010 if he isn’t a starter?
IS SO NEGATIVE IT’S SAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 23rd, 20095:19 pm
McLouth of the South-
I may do that myself. Because I am, in fact, broke.
KJ = Bad Kharma
We probably need to win 90-91 games to get that wildcard, yes ??
Anyone have projections based on the games played and WC leader at this time
McFann – in case you haven’t noticed, I find picturing ridiculous scenarios quite humorous. Like McCann doing the electric slide around the basepaths, Chipper and Yunel in the doughout, Bobby wearing a sombrero instead of a baseball cap, etc.
njbraves………..while I was disappointed with our offensive effort today, I’m not going to be as critical of their performance……as I will be about that 8th inning and how it was poorly played and managed. Peter Moylan should not have been used PERIOD. He is just TOO INCONSISTENT. How hard is that for some of you who watch the Braves play night in and night out to understand? Our defense didnt help……….yet Moylan was responsible for one of those errors.
Despite the lack of hitting and the error by Kotchman, this was still a winnable game. Yet Moylan makes the error and gives up a number of hits to blow the game.
That is why I said that Conrad being sent down instead of cutting Norton before the game “set the tone” for what happened today. It just continued the trend of Bobby Cox sticking with “his guys” (Peter Moylan for example, and inserting Kelly Johnson in the double switch, which will come back to haunt us soon because Bobby will use his hit in the 8th as an excuse to give Kelly more at-bats).
If you cant understand that…….then I’m sorry.
July 23rd, 20095:20 pm
“I hear ya, Paul. Norton is a colder, older, and more expensive option than Conrad. His only upside is he’s a switch hitter. whoooo…” jeffrey d
So is Conrad.
BC coaching methodology: “2 underperformers are better than 1 over performer, any ole day of the week, but at least it was a “hard decision for him.”
July 23rd, 20095:21 pm
WHO DO YOU BRING IN INSTEAD OF NORTON THERE? Acosta, who had a horrible inning the other night, or Soriano, your closer? Maybe he should have put in Javy Vazquez. Or Mark Wohlers!
A 200 lb Great Dane just pinned me to the ground and assumed the ‘69′ position then promptly issued a golden shower.
July 23rd, 20095:22 pm
You’re not going to be sold on October baseball until the Braves get there?
Unlike the rest of us, I guess, who have already bought World Series tickets?
PWHjort……….if Frank Wren had cut Norton instead of sending down Conrad…….then maybe, just maybe, Frank Wren could tell Bobby to not use Peter Moylan in crucial situations as well (I know, wishful thinking, but still one can hope, lol).
However, by sending down Conrad and keeping Norton, that allows Bobby to just keep using “his guys” with impunity. Peter Moylan is one of “his guys”.
Nova Scotia Steve
We need to win the Brewers series…
Not sweep but we need a 2/3 effort…
They’re ahead of us and we need to catch em….I think SF and Colordo are going head to head now…So another big series for us.
Pitching matchups are really solid for both sides (Braves/Brewers) too so its gunna be tough…
Paul, your key words in your last comment was despite the lack of hitting. If the score after the top 8th was jst 2 to 1 Giants. Would we have come back to win???? No way of knowing, but it wasn’t looking promising…
July 23rd, 20095:23 pm
By Norton, I meant Moylan
If KJ plays I hope it’s because we are showcasing him to acquire Holliday. Greg Norton was successful last season, but he’s not worth anything to us anymore. Kelly Johnson belongs in AAA so Cox won’t play him. I am sure cox will throw the loser bennett all the time again when he gets healthy. Norton is good for swinging and missing fastballs right down the middle with the bases loaded.
Frank Wren has been the saving grace. He took away Schafer, and got us McLouth…and then Frenchy was dealt for Church.. and then luckily KJ got hurt. This team has been on a roll without these “easy outs” in the lineup. We have been able to put up big innings lately because there is no KJ or Schafer to K, or Frenchy to hit into a DP. Church and McLouth not only get on base, but they give you quality at-bats. It kills your team to see the opposing pitcher get outs on one pitch(Frenchy). McLouth and Church work the counts and take walks. They will at the very least make the pitcher work.
If we don’t make the playoffs it will be because Cox choked us to death.
July 23rd, 20095:24 pm
Some proof about sample size and that what goes around comes around. The man hit 17 homers in 2006 and hit well for us last year:
On April 30, Norton was designated for assignment despite batting .438 in 16 at-bats. On May 5, Norton was traded to the Atlanta Braves for cash considerations.
Put away those brooms braves fans. Zito is the man.
I don’t think anybody on here wanted Conrad sent down in the place of Norton. But I gotta tell you, I understand it. I suspect scoots feels the same way.
July 23rd, 20095:25 pm
That would be kinda cool to meet those two!
This is just a guess, but if the Braves were intending on having Hudson in the bullpen, I don’t think they’d have his rehab be almost a month long. They certainly wouldn’t “up” his innings to be around 6 or 7 innings at the end of the rehab.
Make no mistake, barring setback, after August 15th, regardless of being in or out of the races, Hudson will be in the rotation. KK will be out of it, unless an injury changes that. Say like, perhaps, the team shutting down Vazquez if he’s still hurting with the groin.
They know what they have with Vazquez. They won’t know what they have with Hudson without seeing hims START games and go through the order a couple of times.
If they were intending on Hudson being in the pen, he’d be back in 2-3 weeks. Like I said. Just a guess, but also using logic and common sense, while making that guess. Which inlcludes realizing that KK almost always needs too many pitches to get THROUGH the 5th inning.
The W-L record is not KK’s fault, due to run support. The strain he puts on the bullpen almost every time out is.
July 23rd, 20095:26 pm
“You’re not going to be sold on October baseball until the Braves get there?…Unlike the rest of us, I guess, who have already bought World Series tickets?”
I didn’t even know the tickets were available yet. Good for you guys. Have fun.
July 23rd, 20095:27 pm
Agreed, I would have put Moylan in in that situation. Who else??? Not Soriano so who??? Moylan isn’t one of “Cox’s guys” he was, for a long stretch of time, part of the big 3 outta the bullpen. You’re gonna have your crappy days. Moylan’s had his fair share…but mark my words Bennet will not be used over Carlyle in the near future…
Count de Monet
Kelly Johnson is one of the “easy” outs Chipper was talking about.
The A Bomb
I just went to the medicine cabinet and took my daily dosage of Moylanta. Ugh.
July 23rd, 20095:28 pm
We got back on track today; We still lead the ML in ERA. But it goes to show who has the best shot at the wild card. This is due to the Braves suspect BP and roller coaster offense. Maybe you will get them next year.
When Pete Moylan comes into the game strange things happen.
July 23rd, 20095:29 pm
Man, everyone needs to take a deep breath and exercise some patience here…
The deadline is coming up. We’re gonna make a move and get a reliever. The moves made today will have no impact on the team heading down the stretch, other than the team didn’t want to option certain players to keep their trade options open. Really people, relax. We’re playing good ball and lost a ballgame. It’s ok to lose once in 5 games, twice in 9, etc…
Nothings changed. Our SP is rock solid and our offense is manageable. We have a good closer, a good long relief guy, but lack a 7th/8th inning guy. We’re gonna get one in a trade, we have Infante and Hudson coming back too. We’re going to be a solid group heading down the stretch. Relax…today was one day.
SanFranFan, Yeah good luck with Zito and his contract hope that works out for yeah. Don’t let the door hit you on the way outta ATL. Jeez cant stand that guy…
jeffrey d……….before the month of September last year….Kelly Johnson was 118 for 446 for the season, which translates to a .264 batting average. It was his hot September (when the Braves were far out of it) where his average soared.
That, to me, is a better indication (along with his first half this year where he hit .214 in 234 at-bats) of how productive Kelly Johnson really is.
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