Hot Braves, Jurrjens vs. The Freak (Lincecum)

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MFin04

July 22nd, 2009
5:55 pm

McFann – it depends on position too. McCann is by far the best catcher in the league offensively speaking, and I’ll say average defensively.

Casey K has a bigger split. #1 in defense, #12 in offense. And there are a lot of great first baseman, not many great catchers. Really only one or 2 in the NL.

Heath (Cleveland)

July 22nd, 2009
5:56 pm

Kotchman is one of the only two players on the team (Chipper) to walk more than strikeout…interesting.

David O'Brien

July 22nd, 2009
5:56 pm

Someone asked (several, actually) what to do with Kelly. I said I wouldn’t be surprised if they traded him.

But I think it’s more likely they’ll option him to Gwinnett. I just don’t think they want to disrupt anything here right now, and it’s hard to get equal value for Kelly with the numbers he’s put up this season, etc.

Bay Area Steve

July 22nd, 2009
5:58 pm

So, why would any sane person try to reason with MFin09?

McFann,

no person with a functioning brain would say that McCann’s bat “doesn’t outweigh his errors.”

MFin04

July 22nd, 2009
5:59 pm

McFann – I wouldn’t even mind if McCann didn’t block the plate the rest of his career with a runner trying to score. He is that good of a hitter, I’d hate to see him get hurt for just 1 run. It might be an important run at the time, but missing 3-4 weeks with a screwed up ankle, or the season with a broken ankle would be impossible for the Braves to make up.

David O'Brien

July 22nd, 2009
5:59 pm

MiltonDawg: I thougth Yorke’s solo album last year was as good as all but about three or four Radiohead albums. In other words, I thought it was great.

MiltonDawg

July 22nd, 2009
5:59 pm

Are we doing the reverse psychology thing with the Freak tonight? Me thinks these Bravos are on a roll..make it 5.5 behind the Phils after tonight.

bruce

July 22nd, 2009
5:59 pm

McFann –
Hey what are your thoughts (not presuming you are keeping stats) on the likelihood that most of Chipper’s walks with RISP are from left-handers because they would not do it to face Brian (post-glasses) with a right-hander. I could see some of Chipper’s walks coming more often pre-glasses. I see Brian as a normal hitter against left-handers and super-hero against right handers, btw. Hope you are doing well. I am certainly much better since the Boston series… was down quite a bit after that Baltimore series. Thanks, Bruce

monty

July 22nd, 2009
6:00 pm

MFin04

In your listing of how Casey rates against other 1b, you list him a couple of times as 18th. I know there are only 16 NAtional League teams. So, obviously your ranking is not based on just one 1b per team,I suppose, but just how many 1b is he being compared to? If he is 18th out of 30 he’s about average but if he is 18th out of 20 that’s a different story.

McFann ;Ô;

July 22nd, 2009
6:00 pm

Heath Kotchman is one of the only two players on the team (Chipper) to walk more than strikeout…interesting.

Huh, we used to have another one…then June 24th came along…

JerseyGil

July 22nd, 2009
6:01 pm

DOB..For first Time i’m going to desagree with you on the Change The Braves for the Wild Card…why?? because Colorado still has to Play SanFran for 13 Games between then, the wild card winner coming from the west…I think we have a good change to the Division is we continous play like now.

David O'Brien

July 22nd, 2009
6:01 pm

Just got done talking to Edgar Renteria about Escobar. Said he can be as good as he wants to be, he’s that talented. I’m gonna use some of his quotes and some others in lead to notebook. Edgar’s out of the lineup for a few days, by the way — just had a cortisone shot in his elbow. Dude’s gotten old.

I asked Bobby Cox if he thought Escobar could play a game without a glove, and he said yeah, probably, that his hands were that good. Best hands he’s ever seen, Cox said.

MiltonDawg

July 22nd, 2009
6:01 pm

DOB- thanks buddy. I’m all for Ok Computer/Hail to the Thief/ & The Bends. Kid A has it’s moments as well as Amnesiac. Thanks for your recommendation about a month ago on White Rabbits- i can’t stop listening to them.

ncscoots

July 22nd, 2009
6:02 pm

Lemme know the next time someone hits 90 solo homers in a season to bring up that RBI total to an acceptable number for you old-timers…

Let’s be watching who we lump in with the “old-timers”, shall we, LOL?

I never thought I’d say this, but I wish Shaun would come on here and start arguing with Lentz.

Bobby’s, you are a sick, sick puppy. Mercy.

Paul Lentz

July 22nd, 2009
6:03 pm

Garett………you crack me up. You said “with huddy next year, we have to be the faves for the division”, lol? ARE YOU SERIOUS? You are implying that the reason that we arent winning the division this year is because Tim Hudson hasnt pitched all year. If you believe that, then……what else can I say?

If a healthy Tim Hudson had been pitching for the Braves all year instead of Kenshin Kawakami……….we would still be a number of games behind the Phillies.

Here’s a news flash for you……….STARTING PITCHING HAS NOT BEEN THE PROBLEM FOR THE BRAVES THIS YEAR. Ok? We still couldnt hit the first half of the season. Also we need another power short reliever to help Soriano and Gonzalez close out the 8th and 9th innings.

Having Tim Hudson next year…….without addressing that pressing need……..is going to make the Braves the “faves” to win the division next year, lol.

MiltonDawg

July 22nd, 2009
6:03 pm

I mentioned yesterday that now KJ is getting better..prime for trade bait along with Medlen.

Steve from OH

July 22nd, 2009
6:03 pm

Let’s be watching who we lump in with the “old-timers”, shall we, LOL?

Not in age, in out-dated theory, LOL!

Doc Holiday

July 22nd, 2009
6:03 pm

“Best hands he’s ever seen, Cox said.”

Classic Bobby Cox

Homer

July 22nd, 2009
6:04 pm

bruce

July 22nd, 2009
6:04 pm

I really hope Braves option Kelly to Gwinett rather than trade him. Let him get his mojo back… wrists completely healed and his hitting stroke back on a hot streak at least until Omar is back and hot… we may need Kelly to have a game going and be ready in case something happens to Martin…. Conrad has been playing great, and it would be great for Kelly to be available as a backup too.

Paul Lentz

July 22nd, 2009
6:04 pm

Another typo in my last posting. I meant to say “isnt gong to make the Braves the “faves”……………….at the end of my last posting.

Heath (Cleveland)

July 22nd, 2009
6:06 pm

The argument against Kotchman is really silly… EACH player in MLB has a different value for every team. Kotchman this year has far more value to the Braves offense than he does on say…the Phillies. This is not because the Phillies have Howard already, but because the Phillies NEED a lot of power all over their lineup to overcome their pitching deficiencies. The Braves, however, do not. The Braves have great pitching and an entire team of good-to-great average and OBP, hitters, which as we can see is very potent itself. Plus, with Lowe, JJ, KK, and Hudson (when he returns), you have a lot starting pitchers that REALLY rely on good defense behind them to have good results. If, we had a staff that were fly-ball/strikeout pitchers, his defense would be of less value… I think he fits in just fine on this team.

Doc Holiday

July 22nd, 2009
6:07 pm

1. N McLouth, CF
2. M Prado,
3. C Jones,
4. B McCann, C .
5. G Anderson, LF
6. Y Escobar, SS .
7. C Kotchman, 1B .
8. R Church, RF
9. J Jurrjens, P .

MFin04

July 22nd, 2009
6:07 pm

monty – from some of the stats, like home runs, teams play multiple players at first. Delgado who has been on the DL has more homers than Casey K. Thus he is lower than 16 which is really bad since he is an everyday 1st baseman. Most of the stats with averages I picked out the guys who didn’t play everyday and moved Casey up along with the other everyday players. Hope that helps.

Paul Lentz

July 22nd, 2009
6:08 pm

David O’Brien………..your 5:56pm posting makes perfect sense. However, there is no reasoning with the “Kelly Johnson jock sniffing brigade”, lol. His supporters are entrenched in their belief that Kelly Johnson deserves another chance to play at the Major League level. After all, he’s raking Triple A pitching the past few games, right? What more proof does one need? LOL. Unreal.

McFann ;Ô;

July 22nd, 2009
6:08 pm

Bay Area Steve

Yeah…wish I could remember who said that…was prob’ly some troll.

MFin04

Gotta agree with you on that one…

Bruce

I would guess that most of Chipper’s iBB are from lefties. McCann’s hit below .240 against lefties for most of the year (he’s hitting .230 against them right now). With a righty pitching, yeah, no way they intentionally walk Chipper to get to BMac (well, not too often, anyway). BMac’s hitting .343 against righties this year.

Doing well, thanks. One of my brother’s Gerbils, Louie, died last Sunday, and that was hard (especially the first time we let his brother, Fançios, out of his cage the first time. He looked lost, even for a Gerbil…He’s getting along fine now, though). But otherwise, things are going fine. Hope all is good for you, too!

Yeah, that Baltimore series was rough…I wasn’t too crazy about that Yankees series, either, except for that one game.

Last night was great! Hope tonight is just as good.

P-Town Brave

July 22nd, 2009
6:08 pm

DOB-

But the problem with Kelly lies that if you don’t try to get anything for him now what do you do about next season? You either then non-tender him and still get nothing OR you resign him for at least what he’s making now, which as a backup may in fact be a major waste of money.

So why not try to deal him for a back end of the bullpen guy (someone who can pitch 7th/8th) and if you have to throw in a lower end prospect then do it?

What else could AZ possibly want for Chad Qualls, or the same in OAK for Michael Wuertz?!

Nova Scotia Steve

July 22nd, 2009
6:08 pm

Does Bobby Cox drink?

Like a lot?

chilidog75

July 22nd, 2009
6:08 pm

Good to hear that DOB thinks they’ll option KJ.
Not that I wouldn’t want KJ coming off the bench instead of Norton, just deep down (no matter what Bobby has publically said) Im scared to death that he’ll throw KJ out there once or twice a week for spot starts.

Nova Scotia Steve

July 22nd, 2009
6:09 pm

PS Glad to see Church in the line-up tonight…

Eric from MO

July 22nd, 2009
6:09 pm

Monty he included some AL 1B. Go look at some of the stats and you would see this to be true. Fact is most of the best 1B are in the NL not the AL. Example I would say Howard, Pujols, Lee, Prince, and Gonzales are the best 5 1B in baseball. It is like saying Escobar isnt a good ss because he is the 4th best ss in the NL East out of only 5.

NORRIS

July 22nd, 2009
6:10 pm

i havent seen a lineup except for what holliday posted. is that the real mccoy

P-Town Brave

July 22nd, 2009
6:10 pm

Church better be in the lineup…he’s 4 for 6 against Timm-ay

Paul Lentz

July 22nd, 2009
6:11 pm

Heath (Cleveland)……….great posting at 6:06pm. Your reasoning makes really good sense about why Casey Kotchman has value on a team like the Braves. Our pitchers educe a lot of ground balls. It’s essential to have a first baseman who can dig out bad throws.

David O'Brien

July 22nd, 2009
6:11 pm

Talked to Infante while ago. He’s not been cleared to hit live pitching yet, just off the tee. So he’s at least a few weeks ago from returning to the Braves, I’d guess (there’s no timetable for him yet).

Seems likely they would keep Conrad until Infante’s ready.

Bobby's Cox

July 22nd, 2009
6:11 pm

Bobby’s Cox–good points, per usual Steve

Lentz, obviously there are some good baseball insights coming from my end of the screen. There’s quite a few on this page (3), if you care to read them. If you’re gonna attack Steve, or if Steve needs some help calming his frustrations with you, then I’ll help out. We’ve had our own share of debates on here, and will in the future. But, our discussions are way more baseball saavy than I think you can handle at this stage of your life, and we argue trying to understand each others points of view. You know, healthy baseball talk that doesn’t cross the line of throwing F-bombs and calling each other things like we’re trying to steal each other’s women. Sorry, but I’ve gained some respect for others here while killing my time (and enjoying some leisure time) when relaxing from life, and I will back those people up.

To put it bluntly, you are annoying. You can give your opinion, copy and paste others opinions and give your own reasoning, but you go a little too far dude. I’m not the 1st person who’s told you, nor will I be the last. If you wanna talk baseball, then talk baseball, but please learn to be a little more concise & back yourself up without attacking others, or else I will spout off and make jokes of you.

If you care, I spent 80% of last year blogging about Prado &/or Francouer. This year I’ve been on here for fun because you could see the writing on the wall. The only thing I really think needs to happen this year is to get another reliever. I’ve been posting it a few times a week for about a month. If you wish to partake in that discussion, then go right ahead. But, I ‘m already admitting that I’m and idiot and a moron, so I don’t need you to tell me, remind me, or prove to me that I’m a bigger one than I already know that I am, or anyone else is for that matter.

MiaBchBravesFan

July 22nd, 2009
6:11 pm

Heath: And that is the reason for the Braves’ recent hitting success. With the addition of McClouth and Church, half of the lineup is taking the time to look at pitches. McClouth, Church, Jones, and Kotchman are getting their walks. Anderson is a “professional” hitter who will get his .280-.290 and get key hits when they matter. Prado works counts. McCann shows good patience at the plate. All of this has allowed Escobar to get good pitches to hit; when Escobar gets a good pitch, he seldom misses.

This is a damn good lineup. They are starting to become good situational hitters.

BravesFanChris24

July 22nd, 2009
6:11 pm

Chris Duncan to Boston and Julio Lugo To St. Louis

Boston got Adam and now Chris. Pretty much two insurance moves for injuries.

David O'Brien

July 22nd, 2009
6:11 pm

Norris: Read the actual blog and you’d see a lineup from me.

NORRIS

July 22nd, 2009
6:12 pm

why so long on infante? it must have been worse than what they reported.

P-Town Brave

July 22nd, 2009
6:12 pm

Eric-

At this point how can that last statement even be factual?

Rollins is having a terrible year AND Reyes isn’t even playing…

So wouldn’t Yunel be right up at #2 at this point…at least going by whats happened on the field this year..and I’ll go as far as Yunel would be #1 defensively no matter what with only Rollins getting close to him there…

Doc Holiday

July 22nd, 2009
6:12 pm

NORRIS,

It is real…………Im for real………….Im the real thing. ;-)

Eric from MO

July 22nd, 2009
6:12 pm

Heath good 6:06 post. The Braves spend more money on their rotation and the Phillies spend it on their offense, so they are going to have the better hitters. Kotchman makes less than most 1B but he still helps the team win in his own way.

NORRIS

July 22nd, 2009
6:12 pm

Oh… im suppossed to read that too. haha. thanks, dave.

monty

July 22nd, 2009
6:13 pm

Another way of looking at all the games the Phils have left with teams currently in the race for the wildcard is that if the Phils beat them that helps us and if they get beat we’re looking good too! So if the Phils win, it helps us for the WC and if they get beat we have a shot at the division. I love it! THat’s what I call a win-win!

David O'Brien

July 22nd, 2009
6:13 pm

McLouth said his back thing was nothing, that he was surprised that Cox even sent in someone, said the manager must’ve seen him stretching his back or something…..

JerseyGil: I didn’t write any headline that said “Change the Braves for the Wild Card … Why?” So I don’t know what you’re referring to.

bruce

July 22nd, 2009
6:13 pm

McFann — do you know Brian’s splits since he came back with glasses…. He was not Brian McCann before glasses… and he is superman after. Pet losses are very difficult, my understanding and sympathies… my thought on Boston series was that was when I think they learned they were good and could win more often than they were winning… and Colorado series was proof.

Doc Holiday

July 22nd, 2009
6:14 pm

NORRIS,

He is not drinking his milk for strong bones.

pryguy

July 22nd, 2009
6:14 pm

Paul,

Not saying I’m a supporter of bringing KJ back for another shot considering how much Prado has meant to this team. But your pretty forgetful of KJ’s offensive abilities he has shown in the past. Don’t be ignorant to the fact that KJ has shown the ability to hit Major League pitching quite well. As inconsistent as he may be, he has shown many flashes of hot hitting. Granted this year has been quite different, but I don’t think his downslide is similar to Frenchy.

Eric from MO

July 22nd, 2009
6:14 pm

I would still take Rollins over Yunel. He has been an all-star, MVP, Champion, Gold Glover, and yes Reyes has been hurt. I see your point, but I think either statement could be true. My point was the best 1B were in the NL.

The A Bomb

July 22nd, 2009
6:15 pm

I agree with those of you that we need another reliever –

IDEAS: Rauch, Betancourt?

Don’t forget: Getting Hudson back will be the equivalent of making a deal!

sri

July 22nd, 2009
6:16 pm

If we hang on to Kelly this year, do you think it is a good idea for him to play some games in the outfield at Gwinnett? If that works out(defense in the outfield and he regains his hitting stroke), would you rather keep Church or Kelly next year. Would Church’s ability to to play CF trump Kelly’s ability to play 2B? Or is 4million too much for a backup utility player?

Jerry

July 22nd, 2009
6:16 pm

Sox Have dumped Lugo

The Real Don Steele

July 22nd, 2009
6:16 pm

Infanta had surgery on the hand, so nobody tried to hide anything. When you have surgery it extends recovery quite a bit.

Bobby's Cox

July 22nd, 2009
6:16 pm

Heath & Others,

I’m not sure what the argument over Kotchman is either. He plays good D, hits a little above average, and gives good at-bats. The lineup is finally playing like a team…why would anyone advocate messing that up right now? Bobby has figured it out. If Kotch needs a day off, or when he wants to give Conrad time, he simply moves Prado to first. Same with Chipper. It’s a good system. Everyone is contributing and giving their share, and picking each other up.

chilidog75

July 22nd, 2009
6:16 pm

Eric,
Going on previous years I would agree with your assesment that he would rank as the fourth-best SS in the NL East. But, I honestly don’t know if there is any shortstop in baseball I would take ahead of Yunel. Except that Hanley guy. He’s pretty good. He’s a keeper.

On a related note, I know who they got in return — but did the Red Sox make a mistake trading Ramirez, who might just be the second-best player in baseball? Hindsight of course. But man, imagine a double-play combo of Ramirez and Pedroia.

Roman Gal

July 22nd, 2009
6:18 pm

Dang…I just saw that top-100 list by Joe Posnanski.

Yikes!

How is it that Derek Jeter is 23 and Chipper is 87? And Brian McCann at 81? Really?

BravesfaninWis

July 22nd, 2009
6:19 pm

For those that are responding to my “The Braves will choke tonight” statement, it was because we are playing very good baseball right now, and have a chance to gain a game on the Phillies..

It has nothing to do with what team we are playing tonight, or what pitcher we are facing tonight.. You all act like Lincecum can’t be beat.. Yes he is a ACE, but so is Hamels, Santana, and pitchers of that nature and we beat them.. The Braves are playing their best baseball of the year right now and the way our offense has been hitting and scoring runs of late, Lincecum is beatable whether he is the freak or not.. He has lost before, and he is not indestructible..

CameronC

July 22nd, 2009
6:19 pm

Yunel for Gold Glove!! =]

DiamondJim

July 22nd, 2009
6:20 pm

Bravery – not channel 499 – but channel 449. Watched the game last night and my guide shows the game on tonight at 7PM on Channel 449. The sports package I purchased for $5.99 per month lets you watch everything on the channels BUT the game itself!!! Dish DOES NOT offer MLB package that Directv does. So, after my 3 FREE months, I will cancel that package. BUT, channel 449 is NOT part of the package. Maybe, some year in the distant future Dish will wise up and offer the MLB package.

Let’s get the Giants tonight and gain a game on Philly!!

David O'Brien

July 22nd, 2009
6:20 pm

Down in Giants clubhouse before game, and Zito and Lincecum’s lockers are a few apart. They were conversing, and I swear, looking and listening to them, it was like two members of an alt-rock band were here to take batting practice. Actually, Lincecum looks more like he’d be in a metal band. But anyway, they have the appearance of being actors or rock starts who are invited to take batting practice before a game.

Lincecum’s about 5-11, contrary to reports. Some say he’s as small as Medlen. No, got him by a couple inches probably. Though Medlen’s wider in the shoulders and about 10 pounds heavier (Lincecum is only about 170)

MFin04

July 22nd, 2009
6:20 pm

Eric they are all NL 1st Baseman! Casey K is so bad in some categories, bench players/injured players have more homers/etc than he does.

DiamondJim

July 22nd, 2009
6:20 pm

BTW, I live in Walterboro, SC and am in the Braves coverage area!

Eric from MO

July 22nd, 2009
6:21 pm

Chilli no, the Red Sox got a good 3B and an Ace who have already helped them win another WS and may help them win more. They can always go out and buy a hitter, but Aces are much harder to find.

Nova Scotia Steve

July 22nd, 2009
6:21 pm

So looks like Colorado and Florida are winners today…

chilidog75

July 22nd, 2009
6:21 pm

Roman Gal,
I honestly think McCann might be the most underappreciated and unknown four-time All-Star in major league history. Guy is putting together Hall of Fame, get-your-number-retired type of credentials and it’s like nobody is paying attention. Heck, at least he was on there at all. By the end of page 3, I just figured he had been completely left off.

mets fan in atlanta

July 22nd, 2009
6:22 pm

BTW, news out of Mets land is pretty vague about the return of all the players on the DL. Metsblog.com thinks that none of them will actually play again this year, and i’ve already lost faith myself. I can’t believe that some of you “Braves fans” actually said they didn’t realize that the Mets had players hurt. What????????? Hopefully after the 4 game series last week against the Mets AAA team (plus Wright and Francoeur), you see how bad the mets team is right now. Yet they have hung around this long.

The Phillies lost Ibanez for two weeks and went into a ridiculous slump. There is no coincidence that they started winning once he came off the DL.

These are the Mets on the DL:
Carlos Delgado
Jose Reyes
Carlos Beltran
JJ Putz
John Maine
Gary Sheffield (not on the DL yet, but if he doesn’t play by Friday, he will be)
Fernando Martinez (but he wouldn’t have even been up if not for the other injuries)
Fernando Nieve (same thing for him)
Billy Wagner (he may be the first one back–can you believe that?)

5 all-stars out for 2 months now–Pagan came off the DL right before the break and gave the Mets a lift, Francoeur has done his part, the rest of the offense is just so bad right now. The Mets have been shutout 5 times in the last 13 games, and in the last 20 games they’ve scored one or zero runs in TEN of them.

I have not felt this hopeless about a Mets team since around 1993. Maybe some of these guys come back in August, but i’m doubting it.

chilidog75

July 22nd, 2009
6:24 pm

Eric,
I guess my thinking was the opposite. The Red Sox have enough money where they can ALWAYS go buy an ace — a Sabathia type. But a once-in-a-generation type talent like Hanley? That has to seem pretty appealing right now.
But yeah, I’m sure that World Series ring takes the sting out of not having Hanley right now.

Do the math!

July 22nd, 2009
6:25 pm

Everyone’s all excited about the Braves’ chances of winning the division or the wild card with their recent string of victories, but the math is still heavily against them doing either…
The Braves have 68 games remaining. To get to 90 wins, they need to go 42-26, a .617 rate. Yeah, that’s going to happen.
The Phillies have 70 games remaining. To get to 90 wins, they need to go 37-33, a .528 rate – a whopping 4 games over .500. They’d have to tank to slide to that rate.
Miracles do happen, but I wouldn’t bet the farm on it.

Doc Holiday

July 22nd, 2009
6:26 pm

JF hitting .364 as a met………go figure.

7 RBI included.

John

July 22nd, 2009
6:26 pm

If Infante is THAT far off….I’m startin’ to think we haven’t heard the last of…dare I say it.??….KELLYYYY JOHNSONNN !!!

Roman Gal

July 22nd, 2009
6:26 pm

chilidog75-

I’m a little surprised that Vasquez and Soriano were ahead of him. No offense to either of them, because I love them both dearly (even if MFIKY scares the heck out of me), I don’t think they’re more valuable than McCann.

Duke

July 22nd, 2009
6:26 pm

I’d say that E having any chance with Sloan is the bigger surprise than Turtle landing Jamie Lynn. E just doesn’t seem to have to much game, other than being Vince’s manager and having that nice big house that he just bought.
Turtle has a little bit of swagger is guess.

David O'Brien

July 22nd, 2009
6:26 pm

I’m told by another person in the pressbox (same as one of the denizens said) that Turtle (or the actor that plays him, rather) is actually dating Jamie-Lynn Sigler in real life. Wow. Guess that answers that question.

No, really it doesn’t. Because at least on the show, that still seems more unlikely than E and the ravishing Sloan.

Doc Holiday

July 22nd, 2009
6:27 pm

Do the math!,

You own a farm? Can you send us a list with the products you sell?

Do the math!

July 22nd, 2009
6:29 pm

Turnips and rutabagas. That’s why I wouldn’t bet the farm!

P-Town Brave

July 22nd, 2009
6:31 pm

Sri-

I’ll take Church…from what I have seen so far, he always produces a great AB…works counts just about better than anyone on the team.

David O'Brien

July 22nd, 2009
6:31 pm

AMAZING STAT: Kawakami is 1-3 in seven home starts, despite a 2.88 ERA. The Braves have — get this — failed to score a single run while he was in five of those seven games, and scored one run while he was in one of the other two.

cabravesfan

July 22nd, 2009
6:32 pm

Z’s pitching for the Giants tomorrow, yes? I have to admit I am a big fan, him being an SC guy and all…

MiaBchBravesFan

July 22nd, 2009
6:32 pm

Ba – dum – bum (tsh)

Bravesfan1984

July 22nd, 2009
6:32 pm

mlbtraderumors noted that heyman says the redsox are still scouting victor martinez…how many moves they gonna make??

NEW CARS

July 22nd, 2009
6:33 pm

WOULD YOU TRADE KOTCHMAN AND GONZALEZ FOR KONERKO OR DO YOU PUT KOTCHMAN, JO JO AND GARRETT ANDERSON OUT THERE..

Gone Viral

July 22nd, 2009
6:33 pm

“And Brian McCann at 81?”

Mauer is #2. It’s comical what hype means on these things.

SI is particularly funny today since one guy says McCann’s problem is his defense and another lists him as being one of the defensive surprises in the majors.

Josh

July 22nd, 2009
6:33 pm

JpTuba, I’m assuming he meant the not their. Just saying.

nolie

July 22nd, 2009
6:36 pm

I don’t know if it’s been noted here yet, but the Braves signed 2nd overall pick David Hale (STEVE)

so when do they sign Minor? what is the deadline now anyway?

McFann ;Ô;

July 22nd, 2009
6:37 pm

Bruce

Since BMac got the glasses, he has hit .326 with a .389 OBP, a .525 SLG, 8 HR, 39 RBI, 18 2B, 1 3B, 32 SO, 23 BB, 1 HBP, 7 GDP, 1 SH, and 2 SF in 62 games (56 starts).

It’ll be int’resting to see what he does this off-season regarding his vision…I guess…

Pet losses are very difficult, my understanding and sympathies

Thank you. Well, we’ve still got Françios and Petey Bird–though the Bird gave me a huge scare last night…flying amok, crashing into everything…he slammed into the VCR like a BMac double into the outfield wall…for a minute I thought he broke his beak, but he didn’t.

my thought on Boston series was that was when I think they learned they were good and could win more often than they were winning… and Colorado series was proof.

Yep! So far BMac’s post-All-Star Game excitement doesn’t appear to be in vain!

chilidog75 I honestly think McCann might be the most underappreciated and unknown four-time All-Star in major league history.

I completely agree. Even David Wright thinks he’s one of the most under-appreciated players in the game. Nobody seems to get it! He’s a freakin’ four-time All-Star!

Charlie Manuel and Clint Hurdle must’ve helped make that list.

Guy is putting together Hall of Fame, get-your-number-retired type of credentials and it’s like nobody is paying attention.

I am!! :D

It would be so sweet if his number was retired someday! But those who made out that list for the AJC obviously don’t see that as a possibility, either.

VaBraveFan

July 22nd, 2009
6:38 pm

This sucks channelsurfing.net isnt playing any baseball games tonight, guess gameday will have to do..

Cherokee

July 22nd, 2009
6:38 pm

GONE VIRAL are you the poster who used to go by PTBNL by any chance ?

Roman Gal

July 22nd, 2009
6:39 pm

It’s comical what hype means on these things.

You got that right. Now, I’m not saying I think BMac is better than Mauer (also not saying he isn’t) but he has to be in the top 25 players. I hate that Mac get’s a bad reputation for his defense, because I feel it’s unwarranted. I think he does a good job overall and is no worse than average defensively…and I think he’s been much better this year. Plus, I don’t think he and Mauer both have a legitimate argument over which is the best hitting catcher in MLB.

Cherokee

July 22nd, 2009
6:40 pm

Why shouldn’t you use RBI as the centerpiece of your analysis? There’s clearly no statistical noise there. Counting stats are awesome! PEH

:lol: not that’s funny. Is this an imposter ?

JasonInFL

July 22nd, 2009
6:41 pm

people have posted an alternate site to channelsurfing, but I can’t remember what it is. Anyone know?

JasonInFL

July 22nd, 2009
6:41 pm

DOB, any thoughts on the Konerko talk?

MiaBchBravesFan

July 22nd, 2009
6:41 pm

I guess Kawakami likes “washoku” (home cooking) when he pitches in the ATL.

Roman Gal

July 22nd, 2009
6:41 pm

I honestly think McCann might be the most underappreciated and unknown four-time All-Star in major league history.

If he actually got to play for a couple of innings in said all-star games, maybe more people would know about him…

Buffalo NY Braves Fan

July 22nd, 2009
6:43 pm

CameronC,

I think Yunel would have to use his glove to win a gold one? Maybe he can have the “golden barehand” award?

Cherokee

July 22nd, 2009
6:43 pm

Steve the same thing said about RBIs could be said about average. (MF)

I love people who get into arguments about baseball stats who have no idea in the world about how they work.

MiaBchBravesFan

July 22nd, 2009
6:44 pm

Folks, Braves CANNOT add payroll. Any trade they make will be a financial wash. Forget:

Konerko
Dunn
ANYBODY that costs $$$

Someone mentioned Hudson in the bullpen to spell tired arms. Smart play in lieu of a trade.

N Nine

July 22nd, 2009
6:45 pm

McFann @6:37 almost confused you with Paul Lentz :)

Peter Moylan pitched in his Majors-leading 52nd game Tuesday and has yet to allow a home run

Heath (Cleveland)

July 22nd, 2009
6:45 pm

I expected some arguments on my defense of Kotchman…

chilidog75

July 22nd, 2009
6:46 pm

If he actually got to play for a couple of innings in said all-star games, maybe more people would know about him…

I think next year McCann should just take things upon himself. In the middle of the fourth inning, he should put on his gear, walk out to the plate, squat down right beside the NL’s starting catcher and tell him he’s taking over.

What a scene that would be. Two catchers behind the plate at one time. McCann would certainly be well-known then.

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