3:51 pm July 22, 2009, by David O'Brien
July 23rd, 20091:11 pm
I Hate Braves Fans.. Actuallymost of yall arnt even “Fans”. “Fans” dont say “I Quit As A Braves Fan, Blah Blah Blah, “Fans” dont hate players when they are going through a slump and then love them when they are raking. “Fans” pull for thier team through EVERYTHING. Look at the Cubs, aint won in what, 101 years? And they all show up and root for them. We lose a couple years and no one shows up. And everyone on here hates player, loves players. Just pull for the Braves, win or lose. Dont be a bandwagon fan. Most of yall will bash me for this, then again the ones that do that will be the ones thats just what im talking about. The TRUE fans will agree with this.
July 23rd, 20091:12 pm
Let’s go Braves!
Why have they started alternating the camera angles in games…? Anyone know…?
July 23rd, 20091:13 pm
I KNEW IT WAS COMING!
I have a feeling Zito will have his A game today. He’s due to turn the corner on his inconsistency. SanFranFan
Well you’ve been incredibly wrong all week, so maybe you’re due to turn the corner on your inconsistency too.
NOW I’m going to walk the dog. Not that you guys care.
July 23rd, 20091:15 pm
Conrad most certainly deserved a demotion.
The screen just showed 100 mph on that last pitch. really?
July 23rd, 20091:16 pm
CameronC- I want to thank you for your very informative blog. No one has ever suggested before that some fans are too quick to jump off the bandwagon. I can’t believe that I have never realized that before. That is the most original post ever and so enlightening.
Here I was thinking that compared to Philies, Red Sox, and Yankee’s fans, us Braves’ fans were not critical enough, but now I realize that they are not real fans. We should try to be more like Cubs fans. Thank you so much for your input.
I will try to make you proud.
July 23rd, 20091:18 pm
Does anyone have a link to listen to the game online?
Instant Replay Please!!!
July 23rd, 20091:20 pm
… and that apparently means that Norton is staying with the club barring any future announcements…
What is with this club? They get rid of Glavine who could very well have been effective, Smoltz who could have worked out of the bullpen, Johnson at second base for half a season over Prado until recently, and we FINALLY got rid of Francouer… What is the thinking here? Why does it take an eternity to make necessary changes? Who said that Bobby only thinks of the team first? I really don’t see that.
It doesn’t even seem to be a matter of defense either. There is no pattern to the decisions being made except that Bobby always seems to like having at least 1-2 terrible hitters on the club. I really don’t get it. How does keeping someone that can’t hit improve the ballclub??
But then I suppose I’m the type of guy who thinks offense first. Scoring runs is a lot tougher to do that prevent them defensively (not talking about pitching).
July 23rd, 20091:27 pm
I just woke up. Instead of allowing myself to slowly wake-up before getting online, I immediately checked to see if a new blog was up.
Instead, I saw that Brooks Conrad had been sent down to make room for Kelly Johnson. What a “great” way to start one’s day off, lol. Worst case scenario. Now we have 2 BUMS on the bench who cant hit worth a lick right now. Either Brooks Conrad did something to really piss Bobby Cox off……or……Bobby just cant get rid of his dependence to rely on “his guys”, even if they SUCK.
I already know what is going to happen next. Jeff Bennett is going to be activated soon and Manny Acosta is going to be sent down. Then Buddy Carlyle will be activated next while either Boone Logan or Kris Medlen is sent down.
We were down to 1 BUM on the roster (1 1/2 if you count the inconsistent Peter Moylan, however at least he has days where he can pitch decent….mixed in with his SUCK A$$ days). Now we have 2 BUMS with the prospect of having 2 more added to the bullpen.
I just cant understand this. Frank Wren does a GREAT JOB cleaning house, starting with the Nate McLouth trade. I cant help but think that he caved in to Bobby’s desire to keep his boy Norton.
If you guys think that I’m being paranoid, then I suggest that you go and look at how Bobby has stuck with “his boys” in the past.
I’m having a really hard time believing that we will be able to sustain the kind of run that we need to play if we are going to challenge for the play-offs………..with these kinds of moves being made. This reminds me of how Bobby benched Matt Diaz while he was in a 13 for 26 stretch, just so he could give Jeff Francoeur some at-bats to “get him going”, lol.
“Bobby said he thought about the decision all night, said it was difficult to send Conrad down. But this way, they keep everybody (Norton out of options, etc) and have a good defensive SS backup (Diory) and a veteran pinch-hitter (Norton).”
It was the right move.
(I feel like a wrestling heel insulting the city hosting the matches.)
July 23rd, 20091:31 pm
I have a feeling that if Brooks Conrad didnt show up for the game today, and nobody reported it on here, you wouldn’t even know.
July 23rd, 20091:33 pm
BravesFanInPA………..I feel you. I would love for the Braves to get more respect from the National Media. But come on? What kind of respect do you think we can get when we demote a guy who is 14 for 32, batting .344 with 11 hits, 1 double, 2 triples, 2 homers, adn 8RBIs……….while keeping a guy who is 5 for 45, batting .111 with 5 hits, 2 doubles, zero homers, and 4 RBIs? How can you seriously believe that moves like that will garner respect from the National Media?
Is survival of the “unfittest” the mantra here?
July 23rd, 20091:37 pm
Lew………….there was another reason beside the 3 easy outs that we had in our line-up earlier in the season that contributed to our struggles: Jeff Bennett. Him breaking his hand was a stroke of luck for us. I dont care what his ERA is. He is a BUM. I dont want him anywhere near our pitching staff. Yet, I have a feeling that he will soon be back. And Bobby will not resist using his sorry A$$ in the 6th and 7th innings of games, just like he does Peter Moylan.
Bennett breaking his hand actually helped our bullpen get better. Now his improved health will start the sucking sound that comes when a team starts losing.
July 23rd, 20091:39 pm
Tie Ball game………..Way to go Yunel. I loaded my fantasy baseball team up with 4 Braves today. Let’s hit some more.
July 23rd, 20091:43 pm
Anders………you cant compare Derek Lowe with Oliver Perez. Derek Lowe never misses a start, he pitches a lot of innings, and he keeps our team in games. Oliver Perez is a 5 inning, high pitch count kind of guy. He is WAY TOO INCONSISTENT. Derek Lowe, over the course of the 4 years that he will be with us, will be MR. CONSISTENCY. He has added consistency and a presence for our other pitchers to depend on.
July 23rd, 20091:53 pm
HuffBraves……………I’ll answer your the question that you pondered in your 11:26am posting (C’mon guys, is the Conrad demotion really going to make or break this season?).
Sometimes a game comes down to who is available to pinch hit in a key spot. Saturday against the Mets was a CLASSIC example of that. Bases loaded, 2 outs, score 2-1 Mets, bottom of the 8th. Because of Bobby’s mismanagement of the pinch runners earlier in the game……..he only had Great “Mr. .111″ Norton available to pinch hit. I would have MUCH RATHER seen Brooks Conrad up there. He has delivered a couple of times already in his short time with the Braves as a pinch hitter. If he gets a hit there, it’s the ball game because Rafael Soriano comes in to pitch the 9th instead of Manny Acosta.
Brooks Conrad hit a pinch hit 3 run homer in his first at-bat with the Braves to help up win a game. Do you really think that we that game if Greg Norton had come to the plate in that situation?
So to answer your question, a move like that (demoting Conrad instead of cutting Norton) could very easily come back and cost the Braves BIG TIME.
It just isnt one move that is the issue here. It’s a PATTERN Bobby’s guys being given the nod over more productive players. In a few weeks, you are going to see it continue with Jeff Bennett and Buddy Carlyle. I’m only going by the EXTENSIVE track record of what has happened in the past.
July 23rd, 20091:56 pm
pryguy………..Conrad would have had a few more at-bats if Bobby hadnt given those pinch hitting appearances to Greg Norton.
July 23rd, 20091:58 pm
Roman Gal, were you ever able to calculate the ear-size of a R-Gal/Schafer offspring?
If not, I crammed all night crunching numbers to find a solution.
Here are my scientific results:
One solution stands-out as most logical, for you, Schafer, and the potentially huge auditory receptors of any lovechild. Ear-reduction surgery.
First, such surgery would eliminate obsessive ear-envy that wrecks lives and tears households asunder. Secondly, it would lighten the load and reduce aerodynamic drag on Schafer, transforming him from a medium-risk base-stealing threat to a full-blown base-swiping phenom. Thirdly, if tissue taken from one of Michael Jackson’s ears was sufficient to patch his teentsy little nose, just consider the benefit to mankind Schafers slabs could bring. If he were to donate all that ear meat, you’d never again see an ugly nose! Cosmetic surgeons would offer free nose-jobs to reduce ear-tissue inventory! The idea of global warming would be more readily accepted due to the loss-of-shade effect caused by Schafer’s earectomy!
As far as the child goes, well, maybe I’d just leave him/her alone. Maybe they too can change the world someday… Maybe there’ll even be a benefit concert in their honor; I can see it now!
“”LIVE EARS”", featuring the Lionel Richie song none of us will ever forget, “We Are The Ears.”
Hope this helps Roman-Gal, I gave it my all…
Quit moaning about Conrad…how many AB’s did he get since the All-star break…we will call him up in sept…..if you boneheads want to trade KJ you need him to play, get hot and have some value …otherwise who wants him? If you let go of Norton you never get him back. Give him more AB’s and lets see if he improves. If not cut him later on. People act like sending down Conrad is going to ruin this team…chill out already!!
July 23rd, 20092:03 pm
HuffBraves…………Hearing talk like “if we get rid of Norton and he goes somewhere and catches fire, then we will regret it”….. to me, is “coward talk”. I prefer to focus on the positives that keeping Brooks Conrad brings us if we kept him on our bench.
If Norton were to latch on to a team like the Rockies or Phillies, I’d love for him to come up and face us in an important pinch hitting situation. I felt that same way about the Jeff Francoeur trade. After the trade was announced I heard people saying “How could Frank Wren trade him within the division? We will have to face him 18 times a year and he will make us pay for it.
Hell, I want the Braves to face him 18 times a year. I’m looking forward to it. I see no downside to it.
I guess that it comes down to how you see things. Kind of like “is the glass half full…or….half empty”. 2 people can see the same thing, yet come to 2 different conclusions.
July 23rd, 20092:08 pm
David O’Brien………………this should have been a NO BRAINER by Bobby Cox. I would care less about Greg Norton being out of options. The Braves should have cut him and eaten the rest of his prorated 2009 salary (approximately $330,864) and kept Brooks Conrad. I’d rather see the Braves eat his salary……..then keep him and have Norton cost us games because he cant deliver in important pinch hitting situations.
July 23rd, 20093:14 pm
I’ve been perfectly happy not feeling the need to criticize Bobby for the better part of a week and I know he just got ejected but I’m not sure what he only used O’Flaherty for two batters and then when to the guy who should only be pitching with a ten run lead.
I know the Giants can’t hit the ball but if they could have cashed in on any of the multiple opportunites to score we’d be looking at a 6-2 homestand.
Let’s just get some damn runs for F*s sake.
NO MORE BOBBY
July 23rd, 20093:38 pm
Norton is this years Corky Miller.
July 23rd, 200911:23 pm
For the record – I am not a fan of Gonzalez at all.
This guy makes Mitch Williams look like Mariano Rivera.
August 4th, 200910:31 am
If it was left up to me I would alter the lineup and bat Esco(our leading RBI man) in the cleanup spot with Brian batting 5th followed by GA in the 6th slot.
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