3:51 pm July 22, 2009, by David O'Brien
Steve from OH
July 23rd, 200912:23 am
Oops. Sorry fellas…
July 23rd, 200912:24 am
I don’t know how I’d handle it. But if my boss was RIGHT — and in this case, the Braves were — and I deserved to be demoted because I wasn’t performing well, then, what could I really say? I’d be upset. Sure. Feel betrayed? Not so much.
July 23rd, 200912:27 am
That said. He seems like a pretty good dude.
I hope he has a good career.I dont really want to knock em dead in NY, because, you know, they’re in our division and all. But if he lands with another team, in another division or another league, I hope he becomes an All-Star.
July 23rd, 200912:28 am
Or am I not a “true” Braves fan?
Nope, you haven’t even been to Turner Field since 2004!! What kind of fan are you anyways?!
Uh, I mean…you’re a GREAT fan, Steve!!
July 23rd, 200912:29 am
You’re really pushin’ it with me, missy!
July 23rd, 200912:30 am
Think I will name him Rabbit Shafer! (JoeBrave)
I was thinking that “Dumbo” Schafer was pretty fitting. Man them are some BIG ears.
July 23rd, 200912:31 am
Escobar’s play the other night on the double play reminded me of this old photo of Phil Rizzuto:
July 23rd, 200912:33 am
You’d better watch it! I got my eye on you…
Hey. At least you got to see the great J.D. Drew in person.
Has Escobar gone through a divorce recently or is he going through one now? Seemed to remember articles from a year or two ago mentioning he had a wife, and now I see this latest article where he mentions he has a girlfriend.
July 23rd, 200912:34 am
Homerun stat is pretty amazing…
What’d I say?
You’d better watch it! I got my eye on you (RG)
no problem, I’ll just hide behind one of Schafer’s ears, you’ll never find me
July 23rd, 200912:35 am
Steve from OH………….I dont “hate” Jeff Francoeur or Kelly Johnson on a personal basis. I just “hated” their lack of production I have never disputed or questioned whether they are nice guys or good people. What I have “questioned” is their ability to produce while playing for the Braves.
Maybe some of the blame can be placed on Bobby Cox for sticking with the 2 of them far longer than their production warranted. However since Bobby isnt going to be fired, a fan who really cares about the Braves has to use a forum like this to vent his frustration. It just so happens that it comes across as attacking the players personally, when in fact it is an attack on their lack of production at the plate.
When one gets in a debate on a blog about whether a player is good or not, then it is inevitable that in the course of making your point (assuming you are against a certain player playing) that you arent going to paint the player in a positive light.
July 23rd, 200912:36 am
That is an impressive stat. It’s helped that perhaps the two most offensively challenged teams in the league have been in Turner Field the last two series. Let’s hope that streak continues through the weekend.
I never thought I’d see another Braves staff pitch like the 90s bunch, but this one is recently pretty dang close.
I wouldn’t make fun of Schafer/Eminem if I were you guys.
July 23rd, 200912:37 am
I remember reading that Esco got divorced sometime after the 2007 season, I think
You know what?! With his larger-than-average sized ears and my smaller-than-average sized ears, we’d make a perfect couple!
Considering Gonzalez’s occasional tendency when he’s tired to be like pouring gasoline on a fire, I’m thinking that using Prodigy’s Firestarter song as his intro music tonight at the Ted wasn’t the greatest of ideas
July 23rd, 200912:38 am
Wait, did I just admit to being in love with Schafer? I never meant for you all to find out…
Shamus – you mean Ortiz, Thomson, Hampton wasn’t doing it for ya?
July 23rd, 200912:39 am
Whipping up on Barry Zito will be a great way to end the home stand……and begin an important series in Milwaukee. Brewers pitching hasnt been so hot lately, so perhaps we will be able to continue our hot hitting. They can score some runs, however we have some guys who have the ability to hold them in check.
However, we need to beat up on Zito and leave Atlanta with a win tomorrow afternoon.
July 23rd, 200912:40 am
I thought the fire was Soriano’s thing?
Nah, I believe you’ve mistaken that with “killing people.”
July 23rd, 200912:42 am
Lol nolie… I dont care who you are (RG) that was funny.
Wouldn’t work Roman Gal. Whith his gargantuan car-doors, he’d be resenting your dainty ears in no-time. A form of ear-envy.
He can still kill via fire
July 23rd, 200912:43 am
July 23rd, 200912:44 am
When the Braves traded for Farnsworth and Wickman, two guys who essentially became closers for the Braves, they didn’t have to trade anyone near as good or MLB ready as Kelly Johnson. Thus, I fail to see why the Braves would have to trade one of the 10 best second baseman in the majors for a middle reliever when they traded less in the past to get two closers.
Thanks chilli, and yeah I agree I hope he does it with someone else. I was just kinda tired of seeing a good guy being busted up like that. I love the Braves and instead of going off on a guy thats gone lets talk about the guys that are here. Speaking of that I have’nt felt this good about them since probably ‘01. This just seems like a special group with alot of enthusiasm. No superstar egos just alot of guys willing to pick each other up. I dont see another lineup in the NL with this kind of flexability. And why not trade KJ for BP help but also insist for a minor leaguer or two according to the quality of the pitcher. KJs a starting caliber 2b just not as good as Prado. But it would be a disservice to him to be a bench player and in the past he hasnt thrived off the bench.
July 23rd, 200912:45 am
Maybe, but the fire just adds to the effect…kind of Like this!
This just feels different Jeffrey. Two of these young guys are gonna pitch great here for a very long time. If Medlin comes on, that’ll be three.
July 23rd, 200912:46 am
But our kids would have the perfect sized ears…
macon county line
DOB: Is there anyway you can convince the AJCs Internet personnel to let people just read/find/search for your posts?
Nothing personal, but I really don’t care what bloggers have to say about the Bs. I do love your blogs and posts; and most of the time your musical choices. How ’bout a bluegrass song every now and then? Jerry on “Old and in the Way I, II III” sings some great classics; and of course there is Del, Ralph, Ricky, Tony and DOC, etc…
Bs get the wildcard is my predicition………………
thanks for the reportin”
July 23rd, 200912:48 am
July 23rd, 200912:50 am
I believe I learned in genetics class that the gene for ear size is inherited from the father. At least, I think I remember. I was sleeping that day, but I remember now. Well, your kids are gonna have big ‘ol floppy ears, sorry.
July 23rd, 200912:52 am
Kelly Johnson is not one of the top 10 second basemen in the majors.
Chase Utley, Dustin Pedroia, Brandon Phillips, Aaron Hill, Ian Kinsler, Ben Zobrist, Robinson Cano, Freddie Sanchez, Brian Roberts, Dan Uggla, Orlando Hudson and Martin Prado — to name 12.
Man, there’s really not a lot to talk about when we win, huh?
July 23rd, 200912:54 am
chilidog–a word of advice: Braveheart is not the man you want to debate on that, LOL! Just nod and say “yes, Braveheart,” because he’s almost always right and can back up his opinion better than any around.
July 23rd, 200912:55 am
R-Gal, unless your ears are as small as those of a guinea pig, you offspring with Schafer would still have gi-damn-gantic ears. One advantage, when the kid learned how to swim, he could change direction by turning his head. Those rudders could do wonders on the water…
It depends on which trait is dominant. And most of my traits are dominant.
July 23rd, 200912:57 am
Well, in all honesty, I’d love to see how he backs up that opinion.
Are you trying to say my kid would look like this?
July 23rd, 200912:59 am
This is what Schafer’s children would look like if he mated with a women of normal-sized pinnae.
LOL at that picture, RG!
Wayne in Utah
July 23rd, 20091:02 am
Looking like my prediction of a 4-0 sweep is more a probability than a possibility.
Nicest thing about it is that DOC HOLLIDAY said he would never rip into Bobby Cox again if I was right!!!!
Alright folks, let’s get down on our knees tonight, and ask for a big sweek tomorrow. Doc, you asked for it, my friend!!
July 23rd, 20091:03 am
Don’t worry. When I was young, I had big ears, but have since “grown into them”. Schafer will probably do the same.
My wife says with my fat head, my ears don’t look so big anymore!
That’s ludicrous. Our children would have blonde hair and blue eyes. They’ll be perfect little Nazi’s!
July 23rd, 20091:05 am
And yes, I realize that I used the wrong grammatical number on “woman.” I’m not sorry.
You know your nose and your ears never stop growing. So eventually I’ll grow into my ears. Wait, I guess they’d grow into me…
July 23rd, 20091:06 am
Top of the morning, good people. It’s been far, far too long since the ol’ Scribe has jumped on the DOB/MIB blog, but I figured I’d check in, now that work (which typically is running 12 hours-plus these days) is done (at least until the sun rises here along the southern rim of the capital city).
I absolutely love what I’ve seen from the ballclub the past three weeks. THIS is the team I envisioned coming out of Lake Buena Vista, but Schafer wasn’t ready for major-league pitching (and that wrist certainly contributed to his struggles), and KJ couldn’t carry over his hot September from last season, and Frenchy lost his way after a decent first month of the season, and Infante went down.
But look at the here and now, folks. I’m telling you, I’ve watched plenty of ball over my 30-something years (as a fan and as a sport writer), and I have a feeling we’re seeing something special unfold before our very eyes. Lo and behold, the Braves are playing like I thought this team could coming out of spring training. If I’m right, we’re all going to be jumping up and down in late September because, if the Braves keep playing like this — the way I’ve felt they’re capable of — they’re going to be in the playoffs. No question in my mind, no doubt whatsoever. We’re gonna be one of the elite eight, playing for the big trophy, if we can just keep on keeping on.
If I have to give a team MVP award at this point, in the early morning hours of July 23, it goes to Martin Prado. His locking down of the second spot in the lineup is HUGE. Moving Escobar to the sixth spot makes this lineup really solid, especially given the fact that Anderson is hitting the way he’s hit throughout his career, and the fact that Diaz has rebounded from his rough 2008 to return to his 2006-07 form. Not a ton of power, indeed, but plenty of guys who can get on base, plenty of guys who can drive in runs. And with this pitching staff, you don’t need many notches on the ol’ scoreboard to take control of a game.
As a veteran of the pennant races in the early 1980s, let me tell you this right here and now: I firmly believe this Braves’ team is going to be in the mix throughout the next two months, and I really believe it is good enough to get to the postseason.
And if we can get to October, nobody wants to deal with our pitching in a five- or seven-game series. I really believe that.
This feels SOOOOOOO much better than being out of it by late July, doesn’t it? The next two months are going to be a lot of fun, I believe. This team is good enough to get to October, and good enough to win once it gets there.
Am I right? We shall see. For now, enjoy your morning. Duty calls in just a few hours. See you at Turner Field for what I believe will be a two-month stretch that captures this city’s attention, and launches this team and it’s adoring fanbase into its rightful place among the giants of baseball … the ones who play for it all when the 10th month of the year dawns.
The Scribe abides.
Exactly Roman Gal!
But with bigger ears! LOL
Braveheart……….did you really mean that Kelly Johnson is one of the 10 best 2nd basemen in the Majors? If you did, I just for the life of me cant see how you feel that way.
We FINALLY have a line-up that is capable to producing a rally and scoring some runs. Kelly Johnson was a BIG PART of that sucking sound that stalled our offense the first 3 months of the season. Yet you want him to come back?
Some of you guys are like women who keep letting their abusive husbands and boy friends come back into their lives. Some of these women will finally find the courage to break away, go to a women’s shelter or stay with family trying to rebuild their lives. And when a little time has passed and the wounds have healed……….some of these women will start reminiscing about the “good times” and start to think “he wasnt so bad, we had some good times together”. And the next thing you know, the wife beater is back. After a brief period of tranquility……….BAM, the woman is getting beat down like O.J. used to beat Nicole.
And that is the same way that some of you Braves fans are like when it comes to BUMS like Kelly Johnson, Jeff Francoeur, Jeff Bennett, etc. These guys are away for a little while….you start reminiscing about the “good games they had for the Braves”. Yet you forget about how many games they SUCKED for us. And when Bobby Cox caves in and start play “his boys”…..BAM……..we start sucking again.
When will the abused women (and you guys who love the BUMS who suck) ever learn?
NO MORE BOBBY
July 23rd, 20091:07 am
Shamus Thacker – Thanks for that. I have never noticed him before out of all the times I look at those old group shots. The tractor shot was pretty funny. Imagine a team trying to pull that off now. Ha!
July 23rd, 20091:08 am
You know what?! With his larger-than-average sized ears and my smaller-than-average sized ears, we’d make a perfect couple (RG)
and think of all the plane fares you two could save once he learns to wiggle them fast enough. a match made in heaven no doubt, though I am getting a bit jealous about all the players you chase after
“When the Braves traded for Farnsworth and Wickman, two guys who essentially became closers for the Braves, they didn’t have to trade anyone near as good or MLB ready as Kelly Johnson.”
The market is different from year to year. Say what you will about Kyle Davies, but we never should have given him for Octavio Dotel. His injury history was a red flag we ignored. The Red Sox gave up three guys to get Gagne the day after we got Tex from the Rangers. Scott Linebrink cost three good prospects as well that year.
This year, the market is hampered by the economic restraints of many teams, making a relatively cheap commodity like bullpen arms the most reasonable solution for some. That makes it a buyer’s market at the moment. Whether that holds through the deadline remains to be seen.
Under either circumstance, I don’t think you could find a current MLB GM who believes Kelly Johnson is one of the 10 best 2B players in the league right now. So, your valuation of him is higher than theirs.
July 23rd, 20091:09 am
We all will now, because we’ve got Paul Lentz to tell us everything we all didn’t know! Hooray for newly re-discovered I-already-knew-that knowledge!
Braves pitchers haven’t allowed a home run in 64-2/3 innings, since the eighth inning on July 12 at Colorado. – DOB
Please lord forgive our AJC writer for he will never learn that he is a jinx and causes bad things to happen to our Braves. Amen.
July 23rd, 20091:10 am
Good to see ya around, scribe. Need some of the old-time bloggers back, LOL! At very least, to put a post between two of Lentz’s treatises…
Thus, I fail to see why the Braves would have to trade one of the 10 best second baseman in the majors for a middle reliever (BH)
what I been saying.
July 23rd, 20091:12 am
Well, I’ve had as much fun as anyone making jokes about Schafer’s comically large ears, but it’s bedtime for Steve. Night, all!
July 23rd, 20091:13 am
Me too! Kelly is worth more than the Paul Lentz’s of the world think on here. Definitely worth more than a middle reliever, a very fickle creature…
Ok, bedtime for reals, yo.
July 23rd, 20091:14 am
When Infante’s healthy, Kelly Johnson is the third-best second baseman on his own team.
But he’s in the top 10 for the entire league? Okey dokey.
Not one GM of those second basemen I mentioned would trade their guy for Kelly Johnson straight up.
July 23rd, 20091:15 am
Wow…we got an appearance out of our esteemed scribe!
I feel honored.
July 23rd, 20091:16 am
though I am getting a bit jealous about all the players you chase after
It’s all those smiley faces you’ve been using…
July 23rd, 20091:17 am
I guess what really gets me about the smiley faces is that they don’t have ears. That must be it…
July 23rd, 20091:23 am
I am hopeful that KJ re-emergence tomorrow doesn’t mean the end of the line for Brooks Conrad. I would rather us send Diory H down, but I expect the Braves to either send Conrad down, or release Norton. Which would be my second choice.
July 23rd, 20091:24 am
When did the Phillies get all of this untouchable talent? Wasn’t it just last year that their farm system was Carrasco and Taylor and not much else? I supose an unusual number of guys have taken big steps forward in their progression. Its just surprising to hear they are unwilling to move some of those guys for possible two pennant runs with arguably the best pitcher in the game.
Certainly wouldn’t want to see the Phillies get Halladay (although it would be that much sweeter to beat them if they did). But looking at it objectively, they aren’t getting younger and have a large enough payroll to fill future holes via the FA market. And to me, the guys they would have to give up sound a lot like the scraps the Mets tossed to the Twins for Santana — hyped at the time but ultimately underperformers.
July 23rd, 20091:25 am
Shamus Thacker said
No More Bobby, I believe the little guy on the tractor was former Braves Prez, Bob Hope.
There was a diminutive dude in the Braves front office years ago, and I’m pretty sure that was him.
Shamus, that’s actually Don Davidson. He started as an errand boy with the Boston Braves in 1936 and worked mostly as traveling secretary until 1976 when he was fired by Ted.
July 23rd, 20091:31 am
Two last comments on the Jamie-Lynn / Turtle thing… she apparently met Jerry Ferrara (Turtle) while doing a cameo on Entourage last season and they have been together ever since.
And what’s Jamie-Lynn’s connection to baseball? Her father Steve started MSBL (Mens Senior Baseball League) back in the mid 80s on Long Island.
Man….all this Schafer taunting because of one comment by a drunk Joebrave
I don’t even get that chatter from comments made while sober
From the Bowman blog:
When the Braves removed Johnson from his regular role and then asked him to regain his swing during this Minor League rehab assignment, they were impressed with the dignity he displayed. He never publicly criticized the organization or the decision, which was based on the fact that he’d hit .191 with a .257 on-base percentage in his previous 39 games.
“Kelly has handled all of this like a true professional,” Wren said.
Frenchy could have done to show a bit of humility and opted not to, while KJ handled things gracefully. Oh, Jeffrey, would that you had accepted the opportunity to work things out at AAA with even a whiff of class…
July 23rd, 20091:35 am
Is Roman Gal still on here? You’re up late tonight!
Howdy from the other side of the world!
July 23rd, 20091:37 am
I see Francoeur made a lovely attempt at avoiding a ball hit at him tonight…
Hehe! Yeah, the Mets aren’t losing anything defensively there.
Sorry to add fuel to the fire, but it’s warranted here.
July 23rd, 20091:39 am
You’re up late tonight!
I know. I need to go to bed. But, “Hola” from the other side of the world!
Steve, Roman: Thanks for the kind words … I’ve been in and out of here the past few months, reading about the ballclub, and reading the good denizens’ reactions to the doings on and off the field. I’ve just been lurking in recent weeks, as work and some family issues have taken up most of my attention. My dad is very sick with cancer, and I’ve been devoting what free time I have to be with my family …
I’ve got to admit, the way I’ve seen the Braves play the past three weeks takes me back to a time when I was a young college student, hoping to make my way in the world, a time when all seemed right with the world, when the Braves were scrapping and grinding out victories that took our breath away and make us proud. It’s been refreshing to see that level of play recently, even as I acknowledge that time stands still for no man … that’s probably why I cheered so strongly Friday night in the right-field bleachers, watching Greg Maddux’s No. 31 be unveiled high atop the left-field seats at Turner Field.
But enough about that … This team is really easy on the eyes, I think. I really like the mix we have, with the strong pitching, the good work at the back end of the bullpen, and the lineup that finally is coming into form. I can’t say enough how impressed I am with Wren for landing McLouth a full two months before the deadline, with Cox finally — a month after I started pleading for it — to make Prado the starter at second and anchoring him second in the order.
This bunch can run down the Phils, I really believe that. No way Philly’s rotation can continue to pitch the way they have the past two weeks. Our rotation is better, and with nine games left against the Phillies, I think it’s just a matter of time before we run them down. Call me crazy, but this is so much more fun than being up 15 games on the division in late July, just biding the time until October. We’re gonna have to fight and scratch and claw like no tomorrow to get there, but I see a team that’s going to make that happen, in my humble opinion.
The next two months are gonna be a helluva lotta fun, Braves Nation. Buckle up and let’s do this!
With work calling in just a few hours, I must slide outta here. All the best to the good denizens of the Braves/MIB. We’ll yell at ya soon.
July 23rd, 20091:41 am
Amen on the humility from Frenchy. I really hated to see him go, but alas, it was not in the cards for him to stay.
July 23rd, 20091:42 am
This team is really easy on the eyes
Yep. I almost always feel like they’re going to win, which is contrary to the way I felt about them last year. Plus, they play with more spirit…I love that about Yunel.
July 23rd, 20091:43 am
You actually in Rome, GA, Roman Girl? I’m from Atlanta. Sure would like to get up there and see the new stadium sometime. I hear it’s nice.
July 23rd, 20091:44 am
Nice to hear from you tonight. I will send up one for your family tonight. Just recently, our family had to go through a similar situation with my wife’s sister. The hospice folks were real angels for sis and for the rest of the family.
July 23rd, 20091:46 am
What takes you to Tokyo?
It is nice! I live in Atlanta and I learn in Rome.
Sad, but true, Wayne. That whole “I feel betrayed” fiasco last summer really disappointed me immensely. Now, if he’d come out like gangbusters this year, maybe all would be forgiven, but it took what, a month for all that ballyhooed work with Jaramillo to be ditched, and for him to return to what clearly AIN’T WORKING! Bullheadedness isn’t a good trait when you’re scuffling along at .250 with no pop and an atrocious OBP.
July 23rd, 20091:47 am
Bernazard particularly went after middle infield prospect Jose Coronado, using a slang term associated with a woman’s anatomy, a source indicated.
That’s one way to stay politically correct…hah!
July 23rd, 20091:48 am
Roman Gal – do you go to Berry??
I’m at the Embassy, Wayne. My gig’s in Tokyo at the moment.
Hang in there scribe. You will not regret the time spent w/ loved ones, especially if it is near the end of their time.
July 23rd, 20091:51 am
You sure do know how to ask the tough questions…but considering there are only 3 choices, you’ve got a one in three shot at being right.
A sincere thanks for your service to our nation. Got a son in Germany presently.
I am proud of all you folks who serve our country.
G’nite folks. (don’t stay up too late RG!)
(w/ no ears)
July 23rd, 20091:52 am
Say hello to your son for me!
July 23rd, 20091:53 am
July 23rd, 20091:54 am
Berry….Shorter…I don’t know the third one.
I just asked because I’ve been to Berry a lot. Really nice campus. But you don’t seem to want to divulge.
July 23rd, 20091:55 am
Either that or you were calling me stupid….I can’t tell
It is a nice campus…far too many deer, though.
July 23rd, 20092:00 am
I wasn’t calling you stupid.
July 23rd, 20092:09 am
Steve from OH ……………..dude, I was just making a comparison to how some Braves fans cant accept the fact that if given another chance that Kelly Johnson will “abuse” our chances of winning……………just in a similar manner that a wife beater will “abuse” the woman’s chances for happiness if she takes him back.
An analogy does not make the two situations being compared…….be “exact”.
The A Bomb
July 23rd, 20092:21 am
Doesn’t matter how valuable Kelly Johnson is –
Prado isn’t going anywhere. The Braves will try to do what they always do when they’re in contention – deal for a power arm in the ‘pen and a bat off the bench. I can see them looking at Rauch/Betancourt for the ‘pen.
All this debate I’ve seen over the past few days is ridiculous. There’s no way Norton stays for the stretch with a .115 average. Doesn’t matter if he’s a Bobby Boy.
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