12:53 pm July 20, 2009, by Carroll Rogers
July 20th, 20096:44 pm
RC Colas and Big Red were the way of my youth…moving north to Cleveland, uh, not so much. To bad too.
Wayne in Utah
Nice! But now, it is getting close to game time. Time to que up MLB Audio until the XM broadcast kicks in. For those sticking around during the game, lock ‘n load!
Eric from MO
July 20th, 20096:45 pm
TnBrian I would guess the Braves lose tomororow too. Braves always do bad against new pitchers. So I doubt his bad outing comes in this series. So I predict we split.
The Blogger Formerly known as Billy
July 20th, 20096:46 pm
Paul is the Nate of 3 years ago…but worse.
The_Superhoo (Montana by way of Virginia)
Any idea how Escobar feels about batting 6th? I’d hope that a batter would be happy in any lineup spot if he’s getting hits/rbis out of it, but I know the lower in the order the less “prestigious” or whatever it is.
Steve from OH
Heath–yea, I lived in NE Ohio for a few years and it’s…less than desirable. Prefer the cornfields of NW Ohio, LOL! Though I don’t know if I’ll ever be able to live there full time…:(
Nova Scotia Steve
I’m still laughin at the blg titled “Is this really the Mets lineup?” lol
Steve from OH
Nothing at all. I love me some RC Cola and MoonPies!
July 20th, 20096:47 pm
Just so we’re clear, I’d never wish that one any team…really…
Suggestion–replace “your and idiot” with “your “a” MORON.” Yea/nay?
YAI is hallowed verbiage that has stood the test of time in this forum. The thought that such a pithy and succinct phrase, with its direct and forthright meaning, associated in any way with phrasing from Paul Dense, makes me hurl chunks. Heavyweight and industrial.
Steve, did you really “write” that, LOL? I’m sure it was a “joke”, just not quite as “big” a joke as Paul Dense. Who, by the way, is not even worthy of “YAI”. In fact, there’s a move afoot to rename The Robdawg Memorial Dolt Award. Committee meets soon.
July 20th, 20096:48 pm
Game time it is…Let’s Go Bravos!
On the pre-game show, it was announced that Jeff Bennett is making a couple of rehab starts in Triple A and hopes to be back on the big league roster in a few weeks.
I’m not the kind of guy who will say “Uh, if that happens I will quit being a Braves fan”. However, barring a barrage of injuries to our relief corps, if Frank Wren were to call up Jeff Bennett, I will seriously rant against in on this blog, lol.
If you guys think I ripped Francoeur a new one……..that will feel like a Swedish massage compared to how I will feel if Jeff Bennett (one of Bobby’s guys) is pitching of us again.
It seems like every time we catch a break and get rid of a BUM, the BUM finagles his way back (due to Bobby Cox not wanting to accept reality about who much some of his guys SUCK).
I have a sick feeling that within 2 weeks, Jeff Bennett, Kelly Johnson and Buddy Carlyle will be back on the roster….and Kris Medlen, Boone Logan, and Brooks Conrad will be demoted to make room for them. If that happens, you can kiss our play-off chances BYE..
July 20th, 20096:50 pm
ncscoots Who, by the way, is not even worthy of “YAI”. In fact, there’s a move afoot to rename The Robdawg Memorial Dolt Award. Committee meets soon.
I’m sorry, but .
scoots, of course “I” wrote that “posting.” I “agree” with your assessment “of” YAI. Truly, I “underestimated” the greatness “of” said phrase. Now, I “shall” continue “to” put “random” words in “quotation marks” for the “rest” of the “evening.”
Last point this evening…..I predict a 4-0 sweep.
July 20th, 20096:52 pm
Paul Kelly is better than Norton, Conrad wont be demoted if he is playing well and Buddy was struggling because he had diabetes and didnt know it. Plus in 6 weeks rosters will be expanded so those guys will still be on it. Also Wren is the GM.
The Braves’ playoff chances are in the hands of Boone Logan, Kris Medlen and Brooks Conrad? I think we can kiss them goodbye immediately if that’s the case.
Last “point” this “evening”….”I” predict a “4-0″ sweep.
wow what happened to all the Mclouth lovers. a 255 avg, now wanting to move him out of the leadfoff spot right slugger. hey glord what posistion is fl for Mclouth. oh well is Mclouth still what you thought he would be. let me know! i dont here all praise when he came there. oh well!
Jeff Bennett should be barred from Turner Field.
July 20th, 20096:53 pm
if Frank Wren were to call up Jeff Bennett, I will seriously rant against in on this blog, lol.
[Digs foxhole, curls into fetal position]
July 20th, 20096:54 pm
Jeff Bennett should punch another wall
NO MORE BOBBY
Sad as it is to say, maybe, we don’t make the effort we should when he does well because of the language barrier and the time and effort it takes to get a teammate or coach to translate, when we’ve got limited time after a game to scramble on deadline.
THIS HAS TO BE THE LAMEST EXCUSE EVER.
KEEP STICKING IT TO EM YUNEL!!!
Coach (2010 or Bust)………..I see no reason why we cant win at least 3 of the 4 games. Despite Sanchez’s no-hitter his last time out, he hasnt pitched well at all this year. Tommy Hanson has the upper hand tonight. While that is no guarantee for us winning tonight…………..it would not be a stretch to assume that our chances are good to win tonight.
Tomorrow we have Derek Lowe against Ryan Sadowski (a rookie with only a few starts under his belt). Derek Lowe has found his sinker. Again, no guarantee that we will win because the rookie has pitched well since his call-up. However, we do have the edge here.
On Wednesday, great pitching match-up between Jair Jurrjens and Tim Linecum. Runs will probably be hard to come by in that game. While the Giants will have the edge in this game, the Giants will have to score to win. If the Jurrjens pitches well enough to get this game to the bullpens, then it’s anyone’s game.
Thursday, we have Kenshin Kawakami going against Barry Zito. Barry Zito has been AWFUL the past year and a half. Kawakami will not have to pitch great to win this game. The Braves should be able to score against Zito. Again, no guarantee that we will win on Thursday. Still, we will have the advantage.
This series could go similarly to the way the Mets series went.
July 20th, 20096:55 pm
Steve-OH, you’re killin’ me, man, LOL. I didn’t know Chop had already done a takeoff on the quotes, sorry I missed that one. I know that puppy must have been some beaucoup fine bloggage.
“wow what happened to all the Mclouth lovers. a 255 avg, now wanting to move him out of the leadfoff spot right slugger. hey glord what posistion is fl for Mclouth. oh well is Mclouth still what you thought he would be. let me know! i dont here all praise when he came there. oh well!”
Wow, i guess i need to change my name…wtf
If I were Yunel, even if my English were pretty good, I wouldn’t want the press to know what my level of proficiency is for the simple reason Carroll alluded to in the main blog. If the writers and reporters know that you speak English with some fluency, they’re going to come to you much more often looking for your reaction. But if it’s more difficult to get a comment from you without the aid of a translator, you’ll get left alone more often than not. And unless you like the spotlight and relish the attention, then it’s probably easier to feign a lack of proficiency. Also, even if your English is decent – maybe functional on the diamond and in basic conversation – but not great, you run the risk of misinterpreting a question or misspeaking in a way that could lead to the actual intention behind your words getting lost in the way that your quote is reported to the world at-large. This could lead to controversy for yourself or your team if you speak regularly to the press. Again, seems like a headache that most players wouldn’t want.
All this is to say that I think bloggers here should knock off the self-righteous, vaguely nativist comments about this being an “English-speaking country” and try to put themselves in the shoes of the players who come here in their late teens and early twenties to play baseball without having any familiarity with the English language at all. It’s not that easy to pick up a second language in the first place, and even if it were, there are some definite advantages to maybe masking what fluency you may have.
July 20th, 20096:56 pm
I’ve got a crazy lineup change. How about switching Chipper and Nate? Chipper’s obp is always great because he knows the strike zone better than the whole team combined. He’s not going to steal bases but BC doesn’t steal anyway. Plus you give our best hitter the chance to get the most AB’s possible. Of course Wren didn’t give him that big extension to bat #1.
July 20th, 20096:57 pm
nick shay -
Yunel reminds me of Kyle Busch. Immature, arrogant, brash, politically incorrect, routinely tick off their bosses. Hendrick got rid of Busch and replaced him with the golden boy Dale Earnhardt, Jr. Junior makes Hendrick alot of money but never wins a race while Busch wins races with an eff the world attitude kinda like Junior’s daddy once had.
July 20th, 20096:58 pm
Another thing to consider, guys, is that Yunel is probably self-conscious of his less-than-fluent ability to speak English. Hey, I would be too, I don’t blame him at all. I believe Ichiro is the same way, won’t give interviews in English often because he’s shy about speaking it, if I remember correctly.
My, that was very poorly written.
July 20th, 20096:59 pm
Braveheart, or Yunel has just watched too much Scarface in his life.
July 20th, 20097:00 pm
I can tell you that Yunel’s teammates don’t appreciate having to answer for their own mistakes or when they have a crappy day, but Yunel gets off without answering. Kawakami always answers for himself when he gets shelled. It’s just common professional behavior. “Feigning that you dont understand” is cheap.
here in the south, we call that bein’ yeller bellied! And how many years do you want to give these poor fellers coming up from Cuba or wherever to learn to speak some Americun.
July 20th, 20097:01 pm
“No, no I’m not gonna talk to you. Marteeen, talk to this piece of sh#t.”
Too much license?
Let’s Go Braves….Keep the momentum going!!!
Wayne in Utah,
If you want to watch the game.. http://www.channelsurfing.net
July 20th, 20097:02 pm
OK, the “random” quotations “thing” is cracking me up…
On another note, this ought to be another amazing night weather-wise for baseball. Would have loved to attend a game this weekend/homestand. Wow…this weather has just been so nice…is it really July?
I think it might even get down to the 50’s tonight! Dang…if this is Global Warming, I’m all for it!
Interesting trivia question I just saw on MLB Network:
Who is the pitcher for whom John Smoltz got the most saves?
July 20th, 20097:04 pm
OK, so actually the lowest it’s going is 62, but still…
Eric from MO………….you fail to remember that Greg Norton is one of Bobby’s guys. Brooks Conrad would be the odd man out if Kelly is recalled. Bank on it.
Buddy is, at best, a mop up guy. I’d rather see him called up when the rosters expand in September.
Also, I know that the rosters can expand in September. However, that is 6 weeks away. The Braves have to make a decision concerning Kelly’s rehab in a few days. A rehab assignment can only last 30 days. When the 30 days is up, he will have to either stay on the disabled list (meaning he cant play in minor league games), be outrighted to Triple A, or given his unconditional release.
What is your fixation with Kelly Johnson? Dude just cant hit Major League pitching with any consistency. What more proof do you need? Do you want to see him replace Prado at second? Or perhaps you want him to replace Garret Anderson in left? Or maybe you miss the “easy out, rally killing at-bats” that used to plague our line-up? Or maybe you want to see your “favorite” players play, regardless of whether they will give us a legit shot at winning games?
If that’s the case, just be honest and say that WINNING isnt your first priority as a Braves fan.
July 20th, 20097:05 pm
I think it might even get down to the 50’s tonight! Dang…if this is Global Warming, I’m all for it!
Oh, yeah, it’s all fine and dandy when it “only” (LOL!) gets down to 50 every now and then…[rolls eyes]
I agree with everything in your post but I can already tell you what people a re going to say. He’s been here 5 years, this is America, we speak English and all that other stuff. No one wants excuses even though there can be some legitimate ones.
Kinda goes to what Steve said about Ichiro. English is a hard language to learn. Any language is hard if you wait to your adult years to do it. For the life of me I wouldn’t want to be quoted saying anything with my limited French. Might offend someone.
July 20th, 20097:08 pm
crimedog…………I didnt say that Brooks Conrad, Boone Logan, and Kris Medlen will be the “keys” to our play-off drive. However, adding Kelly Johnson will STALL our offense……..AND………having Jeff Bennett pitch in close games is a guarantee recipe for LOSING.
Getting rid of Jeff Francoeur, Kelly Johnson, and Jordan Schafer WAS ESSENTIAL for the Braves to have a realistic shot at making a run at the play-offs. While Matt Diaz, Nate McLouth, Ryan Church, and Martin Prado arent superstars………they are solid players who DO NOT stall an offense. They are nowhere near the easy outs that Francoeur, Kelly, and Schafer were.
July 20th, 20097:09 pm
Hey I have a Minor league question? Cody Johnson has 21 homers how does his prospects look as a future power hitter in the Majors?
this paul dense is shore nuff an annoying sumbeach ain’t he?
I speak English and I don’t even understand why beat writers can’t interview him when he does well. You stated that you have a deadline to meet and you don’t have time to get someone to translate for you when he does well but yet you can find someone plus the time to get someone to trans late when he’s not doing well. I can see why Escobar would not talk to the media.
Russ ortiz, I just saw it too.
July 20th, 20097:10 pm
But does Wainwright really impress you as a top-of-the-rotation guy? If the Braves had traded a true stud, CY-caliber, perennial All-Star for Drew, then I’d probably be banging on the trade, too. Wainwright, on the other hand, seems interchangeable with any number of good, solid pitchers. Not irreplaceable (SCOOTS)
I agree, plus at the time they traded him he was performing a bit below expectations in the minors. He has been injured several times and has only won 30some games in the 5 years since the trade. He may continue to get better, but the Braves got exactly what they wanted out of that trade, Marrero and Drew took them back to the post-season. They are not looking back in much regret at this point, I’m sure. Some fans are just never happy. As soon as an ex-player has a good year they whine, as if they wouldn’t have whined over all the poor to mediocre seasons that went between. You usually have to give to get , something that seems to burn a lot of posters. Like everything else in like, sometimes you get the bear, sometimes the bear gets you.
(DOGsB) —PBR prolly meant Pabst Blue Ribbon beer.
(RHR)- glad you liked it, I thought it was funny and apt in some cases.CHOP cracks me up all the time
“On the mound is the SENSATION.”
July 20th, 20097:11 pm
J-MAN: this is what Kevin Goldstein has to say:
“Johnson hit his 24th home run on Sunday, and in just 87 games, he’s already established a new single-season record for Myrtle Beach, which plays in one of the minor league’s toughest parks to go deep in. His power is undeniable, rating a pure 80 on the scouting scale, but that question remains as to whether or not it will be enough. For all the fireworks, he’s batting just .261, he’s struck out 112 times in 306 at-bats, and his defense, even in left field, is just plain bad. For many, his best-case scenario is a defensively-limited Ron Kittle type.”
Mets are on the board against the Natinals already. Whoa almost didn’t recognize Tommy.
Nice lean there by Rowand
July 20th, 20097:12 pm
Aaron Rowan is their lead-off hitter??? Isn’t he like the only guy the Giants have that’s got some pop?
July 20th, 20097:13 pm
hahaha “right down the middle for ball three” Joe Simpson
Rowand’s all on top of the plate, serves him right. Thinks he’s Ron Cey. Screw that guy!
man this ump sucks…… gonna be long night
July 20th, 20097:14 pm
Oh well………………always tomorrow!
July 20th, 20097:15 pm
Love the camera angle…
Now we see how bad this umpire SUCKS!!!
So…maybe this is a left and right umpire instead of up and down? Best I can figure.
July 20th, 20097:17 pm
Tommy Hanson is too tall for SS’s new dead-center camera angle.
Maybe you shouldn’t watch the game until around the 6th inning. The number of times you announce that the game is over in the first few innings is pretty funny.
Bengie Molina is the slowest runner in baseball. He makes Kotchaman and McCann look like Ben Johnson on steroids.
Hate to say it..
We will be lucky to win 1 out of 4 this series.
July 20th, 20097:18 pm
Pablo Sandoval just went deep. A moon shot so, soooo far away, that landed right into McCann’s glove!
Confidence is oozing profusely tonight I see…
THAT ball 1 just now was the SAME pitch he called strike 1 to Kung Fu Panda…
Mixxo…………Runners have gotten on against Tommy Hanson before, only to repeatedly strand them. He is one cool customer on the mound.
July 20th, 20097:19 pm
anyone have a link for the streaming video?
Attaboy Big Red!!!
My point exactly. Way to go Tommy Hanson.
July 20th, 20097:20 pm
OK, maybe we DO have a chance!
great composure for Tommy there.
“hahaha “right down the middle for ball three” Joe Simpson”
Gotta love those umpires that will call a ball a strike and a strike a ball. Looks like its going to be an interesting zone tonight.
Hanson gets out of the inning, no runs score.
OK…Let’s get some early run support for Tommy here…
I dont blame you all for not wanting to talk about Mclouth!
Hanon has a nice live fastball tonight… it looks like he had trouble locating his breaking stuff for the most part. Hopefully he gets warm and settles in with all his pitches.
Still, nice fastball so far with great movement.
July 20th, 20097:21 pm
Hanson was looking at his fingers after the strikeout. Has anyone noticed this as a habit, or should we worry about a blister issue?
I just read the Heyward article ,and I have to say that I think someone has been reading the blog. As much as we have been talking about the idea of Heyward coming up this year. Looks like those who be are trying to keep the pot stirring.
McFann, what’s our BMac going to do for us tonight?
Also, how long can Prado and Yunel keep this thing going?
3-run Homer For Kelly johnson
With all due respect, I don’t think we can assume that Yunel’s not swinging on the hit and run cost the Braves a baserunner. (Interested)
that is NOT the point of the discussion. whatever the outcome, his responsibility was to do his best to protect the runner. It’s like those trust tests in counselling.you turn your back to your partner and fall backwards…your partner is s’posed to catch you, not decide he doesn’t like the way you’re falling and ignore his duty. Ok, OK, an exaggeration
Damn this camera angle sucks. I know about the explanation, but Hanson is blocking the view of some of these pitches. I didn’t see Sadoval make contact on the ball he hit. My vote – this sucks.
We should petition to add “ballgame” to the list of words that the blog will filter out…
Young pitchers just make me nervous ……i.e. Hanson & Medlen, especially when they start the game off hitting and walking guys. Maybe it’s just me.
July 20th, 20097:22 pm
Steve from OH–
50’s in July around here is unheard of…the record low is 61, set sometime in the 1920’s. It’s heaven on earth! I love 70’s and lower…
But you know what I don’t love in any way, shape, or form? This new camera angle.
July 20th, 20097:23 pm
Jman & wayne–
you still want to trade yunel? haw. haw. haw.
Sit. Nate. DOWN.
Gotta foul off those close pitches there Nate.
When you are scuffling like McLouth has been, you get a TERRIBLE strike 3 call. That pitch was outside.
July 20th, 20097:24 pm
gotta swing sometime Nate
CSBA’s camera angle looks fine.. Seems to be a little higher than SS’s.
Nate is killin’ us for cryin’ out loud!
There goes the perfect game.
July 20th, 20097:25 pm
perfect game broken up early on
Is there an on-line link to the game?
Is that 31 jersey gonna be there all season, or just until it fades?
Two straight 3-2 counts…this one results in a BB. Good signs early that the Braves are being patient.
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