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Joebrave
July 20th, 2009
5:46 pm
NO pun intended toward you Anders, just the thought of Wilpon trying to buy a championship is quite hilarious due to the possible finish of the team, the injuries however are unfortunate..
Kinda like the Braves last year!
Roy Hobbs
July 20th, 2009
5:46 pm
All this hate on Yunel for his mistake, but nobody saying anything about the top of the order not being able to get a run home with bases loaded and 1 out. Plenty of blame to go around. Yunel has won alot more games for the Braves this year than he has lost.
Perhaps the Braves, with a pretty big latino population in the metro area should hire someone from the Padres to help them with marketing the latino players and reaching out to the Latino fan base?
Willy Wally
July 20th, 2009
5:46 pm
Wren should get in on the Roy Halladay sweepstakes without any intent to get him but with every intent of driving up the price the Phils have to pay
Mitchell
July 20th, 2009
5:46 pm
That was a little redundant, I realize.
I kind of repeated myself over and over. I probably didn’t need to restate the same thought more than once or twice. Not necessary.
A little much and a little long also. What can I say? I don’t know.
Joebrave
July 20th, 2009
5:47 pm
Two contracts I imagine might be a burden as well, too much spent on a much needed D.Lowe, and an aging Chipper, but this team has had to reach to cover for some P.R. blunders!
Robert (Chipper Is The Best)
July 20th, 2009
5:48 pm
If the Phillies are able to land Hallady they will win the division unless the Braves pull off some sort of miracle for likes of Carlos Lee or Matt Kemp. But, I do believe with the pitching the Braves have they can get into the playoffs as currently constructed and I think Wren feels the same. If he can get a Cody Ross or Mark Teahen he will do it but no Matt Hollidays or Magglio Ordonezs will be coming this way.
McFann :Ô:
July 20th, 2009
5:48 pm
Anders Hasn’t seemed to matter the last couple of years. Just sayin.
Oh, they could beat us last year…
Joebrave
July 20th, 2009
5:50 pm
Like a drum McFann:O like a drum
MFin04
July 20th, 2009
5:50 pm
Braves are 7-2 vs the Phillies this year. 3-0 at home 4-2 in Philly. Not saying that will continue, but it seems to bode well for the Braves.
The Phillies are something like 13 games over .500. The last time the Braves were 4 games over .500 (the most they have been over .500) was April 12th. Getting to something like 10-12 games over .500 for the Braves seems like an impossible task. We shall see….
Anders
July 20th, 2009
5:50 pm
BTW- That’s a pretty soft landing afforded Mr. Escobar. I mean, really. This whole -Gee whiz, maybe Yunel has a right to be angry that we don’t talk to him after his good games? What? I don’t know what’s worse – him offering his childish comment or the local media buying it.
Talk about home cooking.
Joebrave
July 20th, 2009
5:51 pm
I would like to see the Mutts get healthy,and the Phillies are due their injuries pretty soon i would imagine!
zookey
July 20th, 2009
5:51 pm
paul Lentz
You are the most maddening types of difficult people to deal with.You possess an arrogance that shows through while trying to make others feel incompetent.You lack the quality of humility,which makes it very difficult to relate to you in a “human to human” manner.You must have grown up being constantly criticized.
No one should take anything you say personal,Its more about you…
McFann :Ô:
July 20th, 2009
5:51 pm
Joebrave–
Uh-huh…
Robert (Chipper Is The Best)
July 20th, 2009
5:52 pm
Yeah, that comment by Escobar was way out of line. It was immature. What would you guys be saying if David Wright made that comment? I doubt you’d be coming to his defense.
Nova Scotia Steve
July 20th, 2009
5:52 pm
MFin04
Sure would be nice to see that green grass that is 10 to 12 games over .500…its been a long time….We’ve worked very hard to get back to .500 but its time to try and gear it up another notch…
Lots of work left for this team to do!
Joebrave
July 20th, 2009
5:53 pm
Anders, any news on Nieve, I liked that kid when he was with the Stros, I hope the leg issue is not serious…
Chop Chop
July 20th, 2009
5:55 pm
I get the feeling the Phils will go 4-5 or 5-4 against us the rest of the way. Of course, if someone had told me before the season that we’d go 12-6 or 11-7 against the Phils this year, I’m sure that someone would have been Paul.
Wait.
I mean, I’m sure that I would have been highly skeptical.
Rob from SC
July 20th, 2009
5:56 pm
Robert (Chipper Is The Best)
July 20th, 2009
5:52 pm
Yeah, that comment by Escobar was way out of line. It was immature. What would you guys be saying if David Wright made that comment? I doubt you’d be coming to his defense.
What did Escobar say
Shamus Thacker
July 20th, 2009
5:57 pm
Kinda like The Lawd said Wayne…
Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to pit-cook a hawg and you feed him for a lifetime.
Wayne in Utah
July 20th, 2009
5:58 pm
MFin04
I really don’t think he would have to “wildly flailed” at that ball to try to put the bat on it. Dude has some sort of issue with getting pitched inside, I think.
Yes, Chipper has been a butcher this year. When asked about his game(s), has he smarted off about any of them??? Nope.
I am not saying that Escobar can’t be given a pass now and then. Heck, we all want to be cut a break now and then when we screw up.
What most of us DON’T do is smart off, or refuse to speak to the press (as DOB alluded to earlier this year, he speaks OK English when it serves his purpose).
BTW, where WAS that interview after the 3 hits last night????
Hey, I love the guys fire and enthusiasm. I think he has the potential to be a top 5 SS in the league. He might be close to that now. But, he is a disruption at times in the clubhouse. Some don’t want to see that, because it messes up their tidy little world of lovin’ Yunel. Eventually these things grow and blossom into a Manny type situation.
Yunel needs to grow up, get some good advice from other latinos in the clubhouse, and lose the smart ass attitude.
Some might say, “I haven’t heard any players complain about him.” That might be true, but which players do you think want to come out and openly complain about a touchy player they have to play with to start. It will have to get REAL bad before that happens.
It is real telling the things that DOB says, and the things he will not comment on, from within the clubhouse. He has been asked if Yunel is a problem in the clubhouse, and unless I totally missed the boat, he doesn’t answer that question.
BTW, I really hope that from today forward, Escobar lightens up a bit, and has a great career with the Braves. But in my heart, I expect him to not be a Brave this time next year.
chilidog75
July 20th, 2009
5:59 pm
Oklahoma,
Kinda funny, actually.
A few years ago the Braves called up a hot shot prospect in the middle of the season. Also a hometown kid. Offered him a nice, long-term deal. And he refused it. Now he’s ripping 12-hop singles to center field for some other team.
Let’s hope this hometown hot-shot rightfielder works out for the Braves much better – and that we CAN wrap him up with a nice, long-term deal early on in his career. Heck, the Braves could use the ole Jeff situation in negotiations with Heyward — well, Jason, yeah, you might get more money in arbitration if you don’t take this deal. Or you might get traded to the Mets and then be non-tendered in a few years. It’s happened before. You make the call.
Nice cautionary tale for the Braves to use.
Mixxo
July 20th, 2009
5:59 pm
go cubs!
Anders
July 20th, 2009
5:59 pm
Yeah, that comment by Escobar was way out of line. It was immature (Robert)
Agreed. And that’s where it should have been left. Not all this language barrier crap. Isn’t that the same defense Soriano used when he was brooding when he showed up to camp with that bad wing in 2008 after signing that questionable extension? Seems to be a pattern here. Perhaps you should look into that rather than drag David Wright into this.
The A Bomb
July 20th, 2009
6:00 pm
A lot with the Dodgers and pitching will depend on how Schmidt goes tonight and for the next week or so. . . But there’s no way Kemp will ever be on the table.
Anders
July 20th, 2009
6:00 pm
Robert – Completely misread your comment. My apologies to you
winterville
July 20th, 2009
6:01 pm
Anders
Just because this isn’t New York where players get crushed in the media and by fans after every game doesn’t mean that we are being soft or apathetic. Things are just done differently here. It can be an advantage and a disadvantage because your rabid fanbase is the same reason that you can have a higher payroll. You guys sell out games. I wish some of our fans cared more but I would never wish to have the media and hatred that comes with some of the bigger markets.
MEB
July 20th, 2009
6:02 pm
Wayne in Utah… I listen to XM MLB Home Plate too much except when Jodie McDonald is on the air. To say that he is clueless would be a complement. Time for some Classic Rewind or 60’s on 6 instead of his babbling.
GO BRAVES!!!
chixluvthebraves2
July 20th, 2009
6:03 pm
I have a random question in anyone knows. Why are some of the retired numbers “red” and some “blue” ??
MFin04
July 20th, 2009
6:04 pm
I don’t really get what all the fuss about Escobar is. He is immature, but why not try to let him grow up and mature. He comes from a different culture, different style of baseball, he has done pretty well toning down his flair. Hit the crap out of a ball last night, dropped the bat, and sprinted around the bases.
No way the Braves get rid of Escobar. He is a top 5 SS and he is CHEAP!!!! I don’t see what in the world they could get in return for the Braves to get rid of him. That being said, I’ll take some of his antics and all of his production.
Anders
July 20th, 2009
6:04 pm
Let me start by saying I was one who said the Braves shouldn’t trade Escobar back over the off season when the Peavy thing was cooking because I think he has speial talents. A better Alfonse Soriano if you will.
However, imo just watching him in action he just doesn’t look likt Braves material – for what that’s worth. I just can’t see Cox dealing with him over and over. It’s not like he makes stupid young guy mistakes and then realizes it. It’s his what appears to be “indignance” that may ultimately get him moved.
My two cents not that anyone asked.
chilidog75
July 20th, 2009
6:06 pm
Chix,
I was wondering that myself during the Maddux ceremony. Don’t know the answer.
chixluvthebraves2
July 20th, 2009
6:06 pm
why is it so important for Escobar to talk to the media? i dont care if he ever speaks as long as he keeps raking the ball like he has been. jeff talked to the media all the time and did documentaries of us having to re-live his high school years. how did that work out??
Wayne in Utah
July 20th, 2009
6:08 pm
MEB
McDonald didn’t have a clue as to what Kawakami was doing since the first month of the year.
Anders
I feel for you man. Kinda like 2008 for us….sucks, really.
18 Wheels of Love
July 20th, 2009
6:08 pm
Anders, I think Cox will be out of here before Yunel.
Nova Scotia Steve
July 20th, 2009
6:10 pm
I think I may buy an Escobar jersey and send it up the flag pole at the end of my drive-way
Wayne in Utah
July 20th, 2009
6:11 pm
Anders
That’s it exactly. You can screw up, but don’t be a smart azz about it.
Carroll Rogers
July 20th, 2009
6:12 pm
Surely somebody posted it by now – sorry – but here’s the lineup:
1. McLouth CF
2. Prado 2B
3. Jones 3B
4. McCann C
5. Anderson LF
6. Escobar SS
7. Diaz RF
8. Kotchman 1B
9. Hanson P
Just had a clear-the-air, on-the-record, translated discussion with Escobar, the NL player of the week. We all shook hands afterward. I think we can start to move forward now, thanks. After I write about it, anyway!
yogi2
July 20th, 2009
6:12 pm
Escabor is the best hitter on the team. we need him too much to trade him. Trade Shafers or Norton and maybe Johnson.
Carroll Rogers
July 20th, 2009
6:13 pm
oh, and roster move is Valdez to Gwinnett for Hanson
winterville
July 20th, 2009
6:14 pm
Glad to hear it Carroll. I look forward to reading about it.
yogi2
July 20th, 2009
6:16 pm
Cox didn’t get along with Jason Marqis or Mark DeRosa. Marquis leads the majors with 12 wins!
Wayne in Utah
July 20th, 2009
6:16 pm
One last comment about Yunel Escobar, and then nothing more about hit and runs or smart alec remarks.
I love YE’s game. I hope he does whatever is necessary to stay with Braves. I don’t think he will.
Enough said. (don’t want to be accused of being like another blogger!)
chilidog75
July 20th, 2009
6:17 pm
Ahhh, Valdez.
We hardly knew ya, big guy.
chixluvthebraves2
July 20th, 2009
6:18 pm
Thank goodness, maybe everyone can finally settle and down and get off his case. He is an incredible player and a very dumb decision to ever let him go. How many times has people complained that the Braves show no emotion and dont look like they care if they win or lose. No one can say Escobar doesnt play with passion and strong emotion. He is a joy to watch. JMHO
Wayne in Utah
July 20th, 2009
6:18 pm
Carroll
Let us know when that interview is on the board please?
Thanks.
Necromancer
July 20th, 2009
6:18 pm
Good grief..they ship Valdez down to Gwinnett.
Why in the hell does Norton still have a roster spot on this team????
Nova Scotia Steve
July 20th, 2009
6:19 pm
Valdez was with us long enough to lose a game tho correct…or was that mop up work from Peter Moylan???
I think if we need someone to rip on….Moylan could be a great candidate…I’m jump on that bandwagon…I have zero faith in that guy!
Heath (Cleveland)
July 20th, 2009
6:19 pm
JV stats (Starters):
-3rd in NL in WHIP at 1.05
-8th in NL in ERA at 2.86
-2nd in NL in Ks at 141
-9th in NL in IP at 126.0
Man is dealin’ this year.
Piedmont Blues (ex-BFIR)
July 20th, 2009
6:19 pm
Evenin’ folks,
As I said over the weekend, I fear that Yunel is another brain fart or two from being shipped out of Atlanta. Probably after the season. And I won’t like it.
I want him to straighten up. Don’t know if he can.
What I do know is that if his next two months are anything like the rest of July — and he doesn’t come across as a total bonehead, the Braves could get a king’s ransom for him in the offseason.
OklahomaBrave
July 20th, 2009
6:20 pm
Chilidog
Yeah I bet Frenchy regrets that deal but I hope he does well. There’s no way that Heyward ends up like Jeff. I just hope he doesn’t go the route of Prince and Howard in recent years. In production I hope he does though!!! LOL
THWG
July 20th, 2009
6:20 pm
yogi- I think most will agree that nobody would’ve guessed Marquis would be having as great a season as he is. He never had the #1 starter potential. 3-4 at best. He was always a decent starter with good run support.
Jake W.
July 20th, 2009
6:21 pm
Comparing Escobar to Wright makes no sense at all. Is the guy being immature, you bet. Does he like talking to the media right now, apparently not. Will this last forever, who knows. As long as he keeps producing and keeps his head in the game(no more of what he did with the scorer)he is making progress in my book. I could care less how he would be treated in New York where people over analyze stuff anyway. Carroll made her point and I appreciate her doing what she did. She didn’t have to explain to him anything, but she did. Sometimes things get misconstrued, especially when you are going from one language to another language, one culture to another culture. We heard Carroll and DOB’s side of the sitaution in regard to the media thing and Escobar. Would be nice if we could here Escobar’s side but it appears he is not willing to share it right now. Based on the fact that he used to have some sort of rapport with DOB and now rarely wants to talk something happened in his mind and we can only speculate to what. Hopefully one day he will mature to the point where he will communicate with the media more and realize that it is not him against the world. Till then this is what we get from him.
MFin04
July 20th, 2009
6:22 pm
18 Wheels of Love – Agreed. Escobar is going to outlast Bobby, bank on it.
Jake W.
July 20th, 2009
6:23 pm
And as soon as I make that post I see Carroll’s. Good to hear that Carroll.
Necromancer
July 20th, 2009
6:23 pm
Bobby loves him some Greg Norton…
THWG
July 20th, 2009
6:24 pm
chix and chilidog-
I believe the retired numbers reflect the back of the jersey that the player wore. For example, Hank Aaron wore a jersey like this:
http://bit.ly/sVsCA
Whereas Maddux wore a jersey like this:
http://bit.ly/1vJZ6L
P-Town Brave
July 20th, 2009
6:26 pm
Yes and once again the same ppl who want to get rid of Yunel are those who thought Kelly Johnson was so superior over Martin Prado…
If the Braves trade Yunel, then there really is no hope left to turn things around…
joe
July 20th, 2009
6:27 pm
escobar smeshcobar. ad nauseum
Chop Chop
July 20th, 2009
6:29 pm
Anybody here ever read this partial translation of an ESPN Deportes Yunel Escobar interview before?
Here’s the original interview in Spanish.
Paul Lentz
July 20th, 2009
6:29 pm
Bubdylan………concerning your 5:14pm posting, I was attempting to be funny with saying “placate your ADD”.
The A Bomb……….concerning your 5:17pm, I “appreciate” you correcting my incorrect spelling of Jair Jurrjens name. I’m curious, do you correct everyone’s spelling on here? Reason I asked, judging from the numerous spelling mistakes I see on here, I never assumed that “perfect spelling” was a prerequisite to being able to post on here. Or, did you use my incorrect spelling of Jair’s name as an opportunity to take a “cheap shot at me”? Again, I dont see you correcting the spelling errors of others on here. For you to single me out, there has to be a reason.
Heath (Cleveland)
July 20th, 2009
6:29 pm
No way Sanchez gets anywhere close to the results from last week. I think the Braves will do quite well. (I hope
)
Wayne in Utah
July 20th, 2009
6:29 pm
P-town
Name one person on here that says they WANT to get rid of Yunel. There might be one, but I can’t remember one.
Coach (2010 or Bust)
July 20th, 2009
6:30 pm
Jason Marquis was a lunkhead when he was with Atlanta and has said as much himself. Neither Leo Mazzone nor Bobby Cox could get through to the young right hander when he was with the Braves.
As it would appear, Marquis has finally matured into a solid major league starting pitcher at the age of 30. Good for him, but no way were the Braves going to wait six years for it to happen.
PWHjort
July 20th, 2009
6:31 pm
Thanks, Carrol.
Blackbird
July 20th, 2009
6:32 pm
Rodney- Just WHEN did they move that frickin monument?
blazon
July 20th, 2009
6:33 pm
there was an old blogger named Lenz
who thought that his skills were immense
blogging 24/7
his own kind of heaven
for the rest of us dreary and dense.
Heath (Cleveland)
July 20th, 2009
6:33 pm
Chop Chop -
So, Yunel wouldn’t have chosen to play for the Atlanta Braves?
Jeff321
July 20th, 2009
6:34 pm
Just had a clear-the-air, on-the-record, translated discussion with Escobar, the NL player of the week. We all shook hands afterward. I think we can start to move forward now, thanks. After I write about it, anyway!
Did you get a fist bump?
Cause Your a Tool
July 20th, 2009
6:35 pm
you know you are! Now get a dictionary!
ncscoots
July 20th, 2009
6:35 pm
blazon, could you put that into a haiku for me, LOL? That’s a keeper.
chilidog75
July 20th, 2009
6:36 pm
THWG,
Thanks. Kind of an odd thing to do though — they could all be blue and I don’t think anyone would mind.
The red and blue just confuses people like myself and chix. And we don’t like being confused.
Necromancer
July 20th, 2009
6:36 pm
blazon
Friggin’ Hilarious, dude!!!
LMAO!!!
Paul Lentz
July 20th, 2009
6:37 pm
zookey……….I never said that I exercise “tact” when making my points. Perhaps I should, but i dont.
I give props when others make good postings. If someone makes a posting that I feel is “off base”, then I will address why I feel that they are “off base”.
Notice I never say, “Dude you are wrong”………and leave it at that. If someone tells me that I am wrong or way off base, personally I would like to know why they feel that way. I dont look at it as an attack on me personally when someone criticizes a posting of mine. I feel that if a person is afraid of their postings being “challenged”…and….afraid of having to defend their position, then they should either ignore the response their posting generates….or…..not post at all.
Coach (2010 or Bust)
July 20th, 2009
6:37 pm
I’ll go ahead and predict that our Bravos will probably split this four game set with the Giants.
Steve from OH
July 20th, 2009
6:37 pm
Wayne……there are many MORONS here that have “called” for Yunel to be “traded.” I don’t know who those MORONS are, but you can “rest assured” that they are indeed “ADD” and “stupid.” Just like when they “told” me that “Frank Wren” was a “terrible” GM. To which “I” responded “you’re” a MORON and I “am” always correct.
Suggestion–replace “your and idiot” with “your “a” MORON.” Yea/nay?
joe
July 20th, 2009
6:38 pm
Paul Lentz, if you still fail to recognize why someone might correct your “spelling”, you really are as dense as they say and not nearly as bright as you think you are.
Coach (2010 or Bust)
July 20th, 2009
6:38 pm
O yea, my second prediction. Paul Dentz will post about 500 times in the next twelve hours or so…..
Joebrave
July 20th, 2009
6:39 pm
15 day dl for Nieve..Thanks for the update Anders!
Heath (Cleveland)
July 20th, 2009
6:39 pm
Lookin’ for the Pirates to break their 17-game losing streak to the Brewers tonight…ugh.
Steve from OH
July 20th, 2009
6:39 pm
O yea, my second prediction. Paul Dentz will post about 500 times in the next twelve hours or so…
Hey Coach, we found something we agree on, LOL!
Necromancer
July 20th, 2009
6:40 pm
Steve from OH
That’s as good a Paul Lentz impersonation as I’ve ever seen!!!
yogi2
July 20th, 2009
6:40 pm
Braves needed 3rd , 4th and 5th starters for years. Cox just had a h— for Marquis and Derosa. Is Shafers still Faking his wrist injury or is He back playing?
TnBrian
July 20th, 2009
6:40 pm
Coach, I’ll go on record and predict the Braves take 3 out of 4 against SF. Sanchez is 0-9 on the road, the rookie going tomorrow night is due for a bad outing, and Zito just plain stinks. Lincecum will beat the Braves on Wed.
David O'Brien
July 20th, 2009
6:40 pm
Gene Garbage: Nice of you to ask, and I’d definitely take you up on the offer … if I wasn’t going to be in Cooperstown. That’s the day of the Hall of Fame inductions, and I’m going to be there presenting the Spink Award winner. But thanks again. Kills me that I’m gonna miss Neko. She’s great live (of course).
chilidog75
July 20th, 2009
6:40 pm
Carroll,
I know you desperately wanted the interview, but did you have to stoop so low to really get frosted tips in your hair? I know it’s important to be on Yunel’s good side, but that was too far. Where is the journalistic integrity around here?
The Blogger Formerly known as Billy
July 20th, 2009
6:40 pm
everyone talking bout esco and how enigmstic he can be is better than hearing people repetivly bashing francour and Cox
McFann :Ô:
July 20th, 2009
6:41 pm
Thanks for the lineup, Ms. Rogers.
Steve from OH
July 20th, 2009
6:41 pm
Necromancer–you didn’t see the one Chop Chop did a little while back? Now that was a good one…I only try to emulate the master…
Necromancer
July 20th, 2009
6:41 pm
Paul Lentz
Ever had an RC Cola and a MoonPie?
Wayne in Utah
July 20th, 2009
6:41 pm
Steve
Right on! (”MORON”)
couldn’t resist…..
TnBrian
July 20th, 2009
6:42 pm
Sorry, I think Sanchez is 0-7 on the road is what they just said.
joe
July 20th, 2009
6:42 pm
coach way to go out on a limb there. why dont you say something more worthwhile. for instance, i predict 3 wins from the braves.
The_Superhoo (Montana by way of Virginia)
July 20th, 2009
6:42 pm
the different retired numbers are in different fonts as well. it is supposed to harken back to the history of the franchise. i like it.
McFann :Ô:
July 20th, 2009
6:42 pm
17-game losing streak??
That’s a sad thing for any team not named the Fillies…
Blackbird
July 20th, 2009
6:42 pm
Paul- Your baseball posts are usually worth reading, even if I don’t agree with everything you say. But for God’s sake, stop the immature petty bickering that has nothing to do with the Braves, because none of us care to waste time reading about how someone hurt your little feelings…
Steve from OH
July 20th, 2009
6:42 pm
Necro–what’s wrong with RC Cola? That stuff is great…
yogi2
July 20th, 2009
6:43 pm
Enter your comments here
Nova Scotia Steve
July 20th, 2009
6:43 pm
Almost game time!!!
The Blogger Formerly known as Billy
July 20th, 2009
6:43 pm
*enigmatic….I can spell a little
Chop Chop
July 20th, 2009
6:44 pm
We both emulate the master, Steve.
I fear that we fail to meet his standards.