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chilidog75
July 21st, 2009
12:33 am
The only reason, the ONLY reason I wouldn’t want Kelly called back up is because if he’s on the team, then Bobby will play him. Not just pinch-hit him, but START him. And that scares me to death.
Yeah, he’ll keep Prado as the starter the majority of the time. But we all know Bobby. Sometimes he can’t help himself, and he’ll put KJ out there with a righty on the mound (even though KJ hasn’t hit rightys for jack this season) and give Prado a day off. There is NO WAY I can see Cox strictly using KJ as a pinch-hitter – but I can see him doing that with Conrad.
The Real Bobby
July 21st, 2009
12:33 am
Paul Lentz,
Please stop posting “books” and start posting no more than 1 paragraph at a time. This is not your blog, idiot. …. Leo Mazzone
Leo, Leo, Leo, are you new here? We all refer to him as “Paul Dense”, Paul Dentz”, “Dentz-man”, “Dense-head”, or simply the biggest A–hole on the blog. Some will argue that the scumbag, “Robert”, is a pretty close 2nd. Most of us think that the Dentz-head, is by far, the hands down winner.
keylargo
July 21st, 2009
12:38 am
Birdawgbill
I posted earlier tonight that Martin Prado was due to have a “correction” because he can’t continue to hit .400. I also took a little heat, even DOB got in on it.
With that being said (WTBS – I’ve been wanting to say that) I think the Phillies are also due for a CORRECTION
monty
July 21st, 2009
12:40 am
Jed
Agreed about KJ. Give him time to see if he really can sustain anything for longer than a week or 10 days.Let him prove he won’t go into another funk for a month, Treat him like he’s in a AA program. It’s foolish to look at 1 or 2 games and say “He’s back!” Too small a sample size right Steve? We made that mistake with Franceour. Just spending a couple of days in the minors. We maybe could have gotten him back to his old self if we had given him more time in AAA. Let’s don’t make the same mistake with KJ. JUst too early.
Roman Gal
July 21st, 2009
12:40 am
How far do you have to go to find no internet? Amazon jungle?
The backwoods of Georgia.
Heath (Cleveland)
July 21st, 2009
12:41 am
If the Braves and the Phillies win tomorrow…I would guess that the national pundits would start giving the Braves some love. Would have to at that point. (Would be in 3rd for the WC.)
Grapzz
July 21st, 2009
12:43 am
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July 20th, 2009
1:04 pm
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monty
July 21st, 2009
12:43 am
Jeff F. used to be an above avg. player, KJ maybe used to be too.
Steve from OH
July 21st, 2009
12:44 am
Too small a sample size right Steve?
Well if we can cite Conrad’s numbers so far we can cite Kelly’s AAA numbers, no? Besides, if you want sample size see Kelly’s 2007-08 numbers or his above-average career numbers.
(I know you didn’t say/suggest that, just throwin’ it out there)
I do disagree with keeping him down. He’s had 1800 career ML PA, he doesn’t need more development time. He needs to be up helping the club.
Roman Gal
July 21st, 2009
12:44 am
Anyone see the footage anyway? Heath
Ugh…let’s hope no one here did. Although I wouldn’t be surprised if a few of our “beloved” denizens have. I loved this line from Mark Bradley…
If you check today, you’ll not find the video on the Internet. What you might find, according to Samuel Goldsmith of the New York Daily News, is a download purporting to feature Ms. Andrews but containing instead a big fat computer virus. Which, not to get all judgmental, is what you deserve.
Roman Gal
July 21st, 2009
12:45 am
Thanks, Shamus. You are too!
The A Bomb
July 21st, 2009
12:45 am
Wait — so we consider Johnson to be in something like an AA program , , ,
And we all sit back as a .115 hitter strolls to the plate in a key situation and has FASTBALLS blown by him. Right down the middle!
Put the best 25 guys on the roster who fit and leave it at that. Johnson at .225-.250 off the bench has more value than Norton at .115 off the bench. I’m no big Johnson fan but as the 24th or 25th player he’s better than Norton. Hands down!
birddawgbill
July 21st, 2009
12:47 am
nolie.Well how about currenttly Arizona, Milwaukee, Cleveland. The point is these teams are more prone to hitting slumps than teams with good pitching and hitters who do more than hit a dinger or k. Thats what was special about the Phillies last year they had great pitching.How about you name a team that has succeded with that type of hitting and suspect pitching.
jed
July 21st, 2009
12:47 am
monty–i agree with your francoeur analogy. i’d also say i wouldnt dream of trading KJ while his stock is this low. you dont make a move just to make a move. the only thing we really know about KJ is that we simply dont know. i always thought he’d be .280/25/85 type player someday. may still be. it’d be foolish to trade him and even more foolish to bring him back before late august.
Coach (2010 or Bust)
July 21st, 2009
12:51 am
Heath, if the Phillies win tomorrow, all we will be hearing and reading is : ” PHILLIES TEN GAME WINNING STREAK “, ” PHILLIES HOTTEST TEAM IN BASEBALL”, ” PHILLIES HAVE WON 14 OF 15 “.
Believe me, it will be sickening and not one word will be wrote about our Braves.
Paul Lentz
July 21st, 2009
12:52 am
RHR…………….again, I never said that all players and management read the blogs. However, as I have repeatedly said, they have family and friends who do read them. And it is not out of th realm of reality to believe that what family and friends read on here makes it back to the players and management.
Also, the writers for the AJC do read a number of these comments. If they happen to come across what could sound like a good idea to them………do you think that they will say to themselves “nah, they are only fans, what do they know”? Or would it be unrealistic to think that perhaps they will think the themselves “damn, that is a good idea. Perhaps I’ll run it by some of my associates and see what they thing of it”?
Again, I’m not looking for credit. I just want to see my Braves win. When I see a number of people on this blog who take the wrong position on what the Braves should do, my biggest fear is that somehow those bad ideas will be looked at as having “merit”.
And besides, what harm is it for me to “believe” that my input could reach the powers that be? It isnt like the world is going to end if I post my ideas.
jed
July 21st, 2009
12:52 am
A bomb–you’re confusing two separate matters. yes they should dump norton and make an inexpensive trade for his replacement. they should do that tomorrow! but leave kelly alone and let him come back when he’s ready.
The Real Bobby
July 21st, 2009
12:52 am
And now in honor of our esteemed colleague Paul Lentz :
I am starting a blog contest to come up with the funniest variation of his name. We have Paul Dentz which is simple and easy. What other variations can we come up with to show our “love” LOL for the annoyingest (that’s not even a real word but accurate description) jerk to blog here in recent memory. The only person I can recall who was worse was SJA , the Southern JackAss.
Alright, get those suggestions coming in, I will be back in a couple of hours to check and announce the winner. First Prize is …………………. well you just win, that’s all
Capt. Caveman, I go away for a long weekend, and THEN you decide to have all the fun and games? Man, let me know next time, Alaska can always wait.
Roman Gal
July 21st, 2009
12:55 am
Seeing pictures of him now, I realize I’m still in love with him…
The A Bomb
July 21st, 2009
12:57 am
Jed — Like I said before, a 2-homer 7-RBI performance in a “rehab” assignment may signify that the “rehab” has done what it was supposed to do.
Johnson is a veteran major leaguer. I don’t know if the two moves are two separate matters because if they do decide to bring back Johnson, who will go down — or out? Norton may be Cox’s boy but there are limits to everything.
Paul Lentz
July 21st, 2009
12:58 am
The A Bomb………….I agree, Kelly Johnson would be an upgrade over Greg Norton. However, as I’ve said, Greg Norton is Bobby’s boy. He isnt going anywhere, unless Frank Wren is somehow able to convince Bobby that Norton needs to go. I’ve been watching the Braves play for too many years. I know how Bobby is when it comes to giving players he believes in chance after chance. There is no changing his mind.
So knowing that, that is why I’m against Kelly being brought up. Because if he is, it will be at Brooks Conrad’s expense, which would end up hurting the team. Kelly may be more productive than Norton, but at this point in time hasnt shown that he can produce like Conrad has.
RHR
July 21st, 2009
12:59 am
Sure steve, i get that hes probably better than conrad and definitely better than norty but a .300 hittet? 25 hr? Hitting 3rd? GTFO! You know better than that. Hes streaky, at best, and he is great when theres no pressure. Hey, if we fall out of the race in the next week might come back and break dimaggio’s record!
But really, sure he can come back and take a seat on the bench, only problem with that is, first time martin had an 0-fer i dont think bobby will be able to resist trotting his boy right back into that starting spot. And he is NOT better offensively or defensively than prado. His fan club just needs to acknowlege that and move on. I DO like kelly the guy, hes humble, nice, he knows how to play the media game, i get that and thats all well and good but you know what i like more than that? A W on the scoreboard by my team’s name at the end of the night.
TnBrian
July 21st, 2009
1:01 am
N8 at 10:11, man I had a big laugh at that post! Keep it up!
Paul Lentz
July 21st, 2009
1:02 am
The A Bomb………if the Phillies do land Halladay from Toronto, you can bet that Toronto will insist on A.J. Happ being included in any trade.
birddawgbill
July 21st, 2009
1:02 am
I agree with Paul alot of what is written here has to get back to the players. And besides like he said what does it hurt to dream.Paul is very informed and no Im not saying he is always right nobody is.But why do some of yall always have to get rude with someone because of their opinion.We all know that their like a certain part of the anatomy but that doesnt mean you have to act like that part of the anatomy just b/c you dont agree.
The Real Bobby
July 21st, 2009
1:02 am
TRUTH IS OUT: The brains behind the “BEAT”.
Also, I do feel that what is said on here is passed around. I could care less about CREDIT. What I want more than anything is to see the Braves win. David O’Brien reads the postings on this blog. Even if he doesnt come out and say it, if he happens to come across a posting that a blogger on here will make that sounds good to him……..logic dictates that he will take some time to process it and perhaps mention it to either his fellow reporters (and no, I dont think that he would ever say who he got the idea from, nor do I care)………or mention it to a source in Braves management who in turn will perhaps take some time to think about it on their own. — Paul Dentz
jed
July 21st, 2009
1:04 am
a bomb (12:57)– i think you’re really jumping the gun there. one game? i dont think that proves much of anything compared to the bloody carnage we’ve witnessed from him this season. besides, if you think he’s talented, and i do, then why not invest in him by leaving him in AAA? when his rehab assignment’s over, option him to gwinnett. lose norton, trade for a bat, let KJ stay in the minors for a month, truly get himself turned around, and bring him up later. like monty said, if the braves had left JF in the minors, you might not have seen the debacle of a season he had again in atlanta this year.
The A Bomb
July 21st, 2009
1:06 am
The Jays may insist on Happ but I’m hearing Kyle Drabek and a package of top minor leaguers.
As far as Johnson goes — Cox loves Johnson as well — you cannot justify keeping a .115 hitter with no defensive capability on a roster in a pennant race.
I believe the assignment ends this weekend — they have to do something — my bet is that he comes back — even as a pinch-hitting specialist. Remember — he hits lefties actually better so it’s almost like having a good righthanded bat off the bench.
birddawgbill
July 21st, 2009
1:07 am
I heard the Phills backed off the halladay trade saying they didnt want to mortgage the future.
chilidog75
July 21st, 2009
1:09 am
You guys are delusional if you think Bobby Cox is going to keep Kelly Johnson as a pinch hitting specialist.
If Prado has two straight hitless games, there will be a VERY GOOD shot ole KJ will be in the lineup, batting second, the next day. And lo and behold, a platoon could be born. Just like that.
That’s the risk of bringing up KJ right now.
Paul Lentz
July 21st, 2009
1:09 am
birddawgbill……..you see, a lot of these so-called Braves fans have been on the WRONG end of a lot of the discussions on this blog since the winter. They feel PASSIONATE about how they want to improve the Braves. Yet when their ideas arent followed, they chant with “FIRE FRAN WREN”.
Yet when most of the moves by Wren have banned out, you cant hear any of these dissenters come out and say “my bad, I was wrong”. Instead, they attack me because I have the NERVE to say “I was right”. Instead of saying “hey man, you was right”, they take cheap shots and say “you dont know what you are talking about” or “they dont listen to you”, etc.
Now, I’ve been very bold and posted the number of issues concerning the Braves that I’ve been on the right side of. Why dont some of you who HATE me come out and be SPECIFIC and say where I have been on the wrong side of the issues? Tell me where I have been wrong?
RHR
July 21st, 2009
1:11 am
Also i cant spell or capitalize on this damn phone so adjust accordingly lol
jed
July 21st, 2009
1:11 am
paul lentz– i hear what you’re saying about norton being one of “bobby’s boys,” and i agree entirely, but dont be surprised if the hammer falls on him soon. he’s been pathetic this year, and bobby knows it. if he were a starter–like KJ or JF–cox would fight for him, but i doubt he’d resist the notion of finding a PH who can produce down the stretch. plus, replacing him is one simple trade away, and i’d bet wren’s chomping at the bit to make it happen.
The Real Bobby
July 21st, 2009
1:14 am
Can you believe that someone would say, “I actually enjoy reading well thought out postings”, after posting this?
I can point out a NUMBER of terrible ideas from MORONS on this forum. If Frank Wren had listened to many of you MORONS on here………..Tom Glavine, Mike Hampton, John Smoltz, Jeff Francoeur, and Kelly Johnson would still be playing for the Braves.
If Frank Wren had listened to these same MORONS, the Braves WOULD NOT have Derek Lowe, Javier Vazquez, Nate McLouth, Garret Anderson, Ryan Church, Kenshin Kawakami, and Tommy Hanson (who would still be in Triple A because Tom Glavine would be pitching in his spot).
So, if those MORONS want to continue ripping me, then go ahead. What MORONS like you have to say dont matter because you are always WRONG.
Unlike most of these MORONS who have ADD and get headaches from reading a posting longer than 2 sentences………I actually enjoy reading “well thought out” postings. — Paula Dentz
The A Bomb
July 21st, 2009
1:18 am
Prado’s performance since he’s joined the Braves does NOT tell us that there will be much, if any of a dropoff. He has been consistent since the day he arrived. What would a dropoff be? We don’t know but as I mentioned earlier, we had Jeff Blauser (.262 career) in the 2 hole for years!!!!!
Cox even said it tonight — PRADO has been the difference. Even at his advanced age Cox is not that dumb. He would lose the ballclub right then and there.
Johnson’s future with the Braves is in question anyway, but leaving him in the minors will not increase his value to anyone. Greg Norton is a total waste of a roster spot — just like Pete Orr was.
When Infante comes back he can replace Hernandez. That would give you. . . Church(L)/Diaz(R), Ross (R), Johnson (L), Conrad (S) and Infante (R). Great bench. Last 4 guys can spot start and give you quality.
NO MORE BOBBY
July 21st, 2009
1:18 am
Braves’ Escobar named NL player of the week – suck on that Bobby and the Yunel haters!!
Stay golden Yunel.
nolie
July 21st, 2009
1:18 am
Agreed about KJ. Give him time to see if he really can sustain anything for longer than a week or 10 days (Monty)
if we wait too long, his hot streak will be over just about the time we finally bring him up. As an aside,It is so funny, 2 years ago all the KJ fans were ripping Prado and not wanting him on the team cause they were sure that Bobby would take PAs away from Kelly by platooning him with Prado. The exact opposite is now happening. Things really never change here, just the subject being talked about at the moment.
Paul Lentz
July 21st, 2009
1:20 am
A month ago, while many of you were saying that the season was over with, I kept saying that I BELIEVE IN THIS TEAM. I said over and over again that Matt Diaz should play in right. Many of you kept harping on Jeff Francoeur’s arm in right. Also, I said that Prado should start in place of Kelly. Yet many of you were saying “we need a couple of power bats, there is no way that Diaz and Prado can make a difference”.
Well, Prado has made a difference. And so has Diaz. And with Ryan Church added to the mix, the Braves have an offense that is starting to come together. Getting rid of 3 easy outs (which started with the McLouth trade) and replacing them with even “decent players” in McLouth, Prado, Church, and Matt Diaz when he plays right field…….have all contributed to “jump starting” our offense. I started saying all this when the McLouth trade was made in early June. I was in the VAST MINORITY when it came to this.
Yet I get ripped. However, there are a few of you who have been kind with your supportive postings. I appreciate that very much. Maybe if more of us were to come into agreement on the RIGHT THINGS, then perhaps things would go smoother on this blog.
birddawgbill
July 21st, 2009
1:22 am
All this talk about trading Norton is crazy b/c no one is going to give you anything for him. And I dont think KJs trade value is that low. I bet The Angels,A’s,Cubs,Astros,and especially the Brewers would love to have him.
chilidog75
July 21st, 2009
1:23 am
The A Bomb,
I hope you’re right about Bobby.
But this is a guy that thought Jeff Francoeur was SO BAD that he intentionally walked a guy (with all of 5 HR) in the FIRST inning to pitch to him —- yet before he was traded, he gave Francoeur over 300 at-bats for his own team. That just doesn’t compute.
Bobby is loyal to a fault. Sometimes to an illogical fault. He wants Kelly to get on track, to get confidence and he might not think he can do that with occassional pinch-hitting appearances.
Like I said, just scares me to death that he’ll start throwing Kelly in the lineup two or three times a week.
jed
July 21st, 2009
1:24 am
paul– know what? i agree that people in the braves organization read the blog. but here’s the thing: if an idea appears on the blog, you can bet frank wren and company have already thought about it! this aint rocket science and those guys arent stupid.
for example, i’ve been a howling fool since mid-may, demanding “addition by subtraction”–ie, getting somebody else in there at 2b and RF. my first choice was infante, justifiably enough. well, finally, they did it. (it took WAY too long, of course!) now you have prado at 2b and church in RF, and lo & behold! we’re a better team for it.
but that doesnt mean that frank wren saw my posts and said “hmmm…that jed guy who posts at 2 am has some darn fine idears. i hadnt thought of any of that, but you know what? i just might do it. somebody get omar minaya on line 2.” what happened was that frank wren and the humble jed noticed the obvious together, separately.
just my opinion, i guess. if i’m wrong, mr wren’s free to offer me a position in the front office.
Paul Lentz
July 21st, 2009
1:24 am
Jed……….I agree with you about Frank Wren chomping at the bit on getting rid of all the dead weight on the Braves. I am hoping that Norton is released. However, I am hesitant about holding out hope when it comes to getting rid of Norton because I’ve seen how hard it is for Bobby to give up having faith in certain players.
I guess that we will see by Saturday.
Roman Gal
July 21st, 2009
1:24 am
“There weren’t any problems in ‘07 or ‘08 and now all of the sudden I’m reading that I have problems with Bobby Cox, and I don’t have any problems with Bobby Cox,” said Escobar, who a few weeks ago told the veteran manager that he was forever grateful for the opportunity to serve as Atlanta’s everyday shortstop. -mlb.com
I like Escobar.
N9(Escobar is THE future& NOT tradable)
July 21st, 2009
1:26 am
Interesting. Even Omar believe the Mets are toast!
Mets rejected a package of Fernando Martinez, Bobby Parnell, Jon Niese and Ruben Tejada for Halladay
nolie
July 21st, 2009
1:26 am
How about you name a team that has succeded with that type of hitting and suspect pitching (bird)
Whoa! suspect pitching was not part of the original equation at all, you said that approach to hitting was a proven failure.. A little assignment: go look at the teams over the last decade and correlate runs scored to Ks on offense. see if it makes all that much difference. Suspect pitching is always a detriment, but that’s not what my comment was about.
N9(Escobar is THE future& NOT tradable)
July 21st, 2009
1:27 am
I like Escobar Roman Gal Me Too!!!!!!!
Paul Lentz
July 21st, 2009
1:30 am
jed………management is aware of public sentiment. If they wasnt, then there would have been no hesitancy to let Smoltz, Hampton, and Glavine go over the winter. However, as much as they want to improve the team, management isnt a fan of public backlash. So if they are going to make a move that will improve the Braves, even if it is an obvious move, they are still would like to make sure that they arent going to be ripped in public. Perhaps some postings on the blogs that went along with the way they think would help “spur” management to make these moves more quickly.
If Tom Glavine wasnt so “beloved” by Braves fans, Frank Wren probably would have let him go sometime in May, when it became apparent that Glavine wasnt going to come back when they expected him to. However, I’m sure that they were very aware that many Braves fans would not be happy with cutting Glavine without him being given a chance to bomb.
RHR
July 21st, 2009
1:32 am
Agree with chilidog, its not that id rather have norton, its that i know what bobby will do the first time prado has a 2 game hitless streak.
Reckon who chipper was talking about when he said “the lineup is better. We dont have easy outs in there anymore.” ? since outs is plural and jeff is only one guy….
The A Bomb
July 21st, 2009
1:32 am
ChiliDog — You don’t make this grand announcement to the media that the main difference on the club has been PRADO and then all of a sudden make him a 4-5 day a week player. No way. McCann, yes because of the drain of playing catcher, but we’re talking about a guy who batted .320 last year, is batting .324 this year and on base percentages in the high 3s. . .
Now you can play Prado all over the diamond and maybe spot start a Conrad, Infante or even Johnson, but again — we’re not seeing anything to this point that points toward a Martin Prado dropoff.
Epinephrine
July 21st, 2009
1:33 am
Wow Kelly kind of implicitly threw TP under the bus with his comments in the Gwinnett story. I had my doubts about whether TP was a problem, but you have to start to wonder when you hear it again and again.
The Real Bobby
July 21st, 2009
1:34 am
I’ve heard so much about how making references to religion on this blog is so “forbidden”. When I do post my “take on it”, all the “religious folks” come out of the woodwork and with “guns blazing”.
However, when a poster like “Chop Chop” or “Wayne in Utah” make affirmations about their beliefs………I notice that the other “religious” folks are quiet as a mouse — Pauline Dentz-head
Let me tell you why, you stupid bass turd. Almost everyone, maybe, everyone on this blog, likes Wayne and Chop Chop. Conversely, almost everyone, maybe, everyone on this blog, can’t stand you. There is not only liking you, there is no respecting you. Do you get it?
RHR
July 21st, 2009
1:35 am
Hey is n9 the old N nine
with extra stuff on his name?
birddawgbill
July 21st, 2009
1:37 am
I Like the way the Braves offense is designed right now. Some people tend to put too much emphasis on the long ball. The Braves have a chance to have 4 players with more bbs than Ks to me this is a great stat. And to all you Wren haters like it or not this is the team he put together. It took me a while to see it but the fact is when you make contact good things tend to happen in the end.Great pitching plus the contact thing is a good match that very well could lead to the playoffs. And Ive been a Brave fan since the early 70s and this team just has a great feel to it.
RHR
July 21st, 2009
1:39 am
Kelly ripped TP? Awesome. Hope that gets back to cox and pisses him off enough to keep kj on the bench. Win/Win!
chilidog75
July 21st, 2009
1:40 am
A Bomb,
We’ll see.
I pray that you’re right. I promise, I do.
Epinephrine
July 21st, 2009
1:43 am
This from KJ:
“It’s been nice coming in and getting a chance to work with [Gwinnett Braves hitting coach] Jamie [Dismuke],” said Johnson. “He’s helped a lot and it’s kind of slowed things down.”
The 27-year-old infielder was struggling in the Majors before hitting the 15-Day disabled list, batting .213 with five homers and 20 RBIs in 234 at-bats for Atlanta. “It’s kind of just to get some confidence really, to slow things down,” Johnson said of his rehab work with Gwinnett. “To just see the ball well again has been nice.”
“It’s just helped me relax a little better,” said Johnson. “[Tonight] there were guys on base, so I was going to get pitches to hit.”
Johnson, Atlanta’s first-round pick in 2000, has hit safely in nine of his 11 Triple-A games, with seven hits in his last three starts. He has three homers, two triples and two doubles.
The Major League veteran credits Gwinnett’s hitting coach with his recent progress.
“I had heard a lot of good things from Phil Wellman down in Mississippi, who’s coached with him a lot,” Johnson said of Dismuke. “He’s been real good for me. If I’ve got some things to work on, if I say something’s not going right, he’s got some sort of drill and something to say that helps.
“It clicks and it’s been real helpful.”
birddawgbill
July 21st, 2009
1:45 am
Sorry nolie. I meant it s been proven that a team with vry good pitching can almost always shut these types of teams down. Sure theyll have games where theyll beat up even very good pitching but not very often.
The A Bomb
July 21st, 2009
1:46 am
Prado has absolute golden boy status right now. If the Braves go to the playoffs he will be the toast of Atlanta because he’s woken this team up with his hitting and his love of baseball.
With Johnson, Norton etc we’re talking about getting bench help, which is something the Braves have always traditionally looked at — i.e. Polonia, Devereaux etc. . .
As far as this team Birddawgbill — we know that Wren improved the team. The difference is that Cox is managing a little more like Gene Mauch (small ball) and a little less like Earl Weaver (3-run HR). You need to know your ballclub and manage to its strengths. Cox is finally doing just that.
RHR
July 21st, 2009
1:47 am
Bill Simmons: Gee, I can’t believe John Smoltz’s start went badly. Thought for sure a 42 yr-old NL starter would kick ass in mid-July Texas.
Aw. I hate to see smoltzy go out like that. Why couldnt he and glavIne have known it was time to hang it up like maddux did.
jed
July 21st, 2009
1:47 am
real bobby– why you gotta go all personal on paul? frankly, i find him a bit full of himself too, but he definitely makes more sense than 80 percent of the other bloggers. and this “let’s team up on paul lentz and call him names” stuff of yours is bordering on pathetic. no, it is pathetic. you wanta argue with paul’s points? fine. you want to show him where and how he’s being a narcissistic jerk, feel free. but your approach now is just shrill. i mean, i could poke fun at paul’s use of “quotes” to “highlight” his “specific” point, but i’d rather be a bit more “mature” and discuss his “perspectives.” (just kidding, PL)
Necromancer
July 21st, 2009
1:47 am
Hmmph…I tried posting something towards Lentz about religion just trying to ag him on and it got deleted somehow.
I guess <strong DOB and Carroll didn’t feel like seeing Lentz’s hatred of religion spewed on this blog.
I understand why they did that…
N9(Escobar is THE future& NOT tradable)
July 21st, 2009
1:48 am
RHR Yes I am N Nine. Whenever I plug a memo I shorten it. Some like TnBrian 1:01 can get confused with Nate. Kinda like Run Heap Run…
The Real Bobby
July 21st, 2009
1:53 am
Call me a moron, idiot, arrogant, etc. all you want. However, addressing me by another name other than the one I used to make the posting……..isnt cool. Other than “stephanie from OH”, every time I make a posting directing someone, I use their NAME. I may call them a MORON, but when I first make the posting, I use the name that they used to make their posting. — Paula “poopy” Pentz
You can call me by any blog name you want. I don’t care. You know why? Because, I feel as most of the bloggers on here. Not only I can’t stand you, I have zero respect for you. Whatever you decide to type for my name, wouldn’t bother me a bit. However, if you say it bothers you, then I will never type your correct blog name again. I don’t live more than a drive from your “gay community”. If I ever find out your address, I’m gonna visit you. I will leave you in pieces. Why? Because I can’t stand you. You are the biggest a–hole I’ve ever communicated with. I must beat you up.
jed
July 21st, 2009
1:56 am
ohhhh-kayyy…we just might have a psycho on our hands.
birddawgbill
July 21st, 2009
1:57 am
Oh come on this is a 27 year old 4yr MLB vet. The hitting coach is there to help. To put all the blame on TP is like saying these ballplayers are mindless and need someone to constantly remind them how to hit. For goodness sakes if hes 27 then odds are hes been swinging the bat for probably 23 or so years. Maybe TP isnt the best hitting coach but he doesnt seem to hurt McCann,Chipper,Prado or a lot of other guys.So call it what it is a slump that got out of controll. It didnt really sound like he was ripping on TP as much as saying a differnt voice helped.
The Real Bobby
July 21st, 2009
1:57 am
real bobby– why you gotta go all personal on paul? — jed
Seriously, did you just awake from a long coma or something? You are kidding, right?
jed
July 21st, 2009
1:59 am
thanks but no thanks, bobby. i dont need you skulking around my backyard at 3 in the morning sharpening a butcher’s knife. have fun and stay classy…
Necromancer
July 21st, 2009
2:03 am
The Real Bobby
LOL. Dude, you’re like the blog’s version of Dog the Bounty Hunter.
You’re hilarious!
birddawgbill
July 21st, 2009
2:03 am
Real Bobby man your just posting hate filled junk Im tired of having to scroll past. Cmon talk ball or say goodnight. Like I said earlier about opinions.You are without a doubt bordering on being that anatomy part.
Epinephrine
July 21st, 2009
2:04 am
Bird, I used to agree. But we’ve heard it enough times to make you start to wonder. And by the way, neither McCann nor Chipper uses TP when they are in slumps.
I don’t think TP can be “blamed” for MLB failures. But when we see a pattern of players struggling, and then looking to outside sources for help, it makes you wonder.
Necromancer
July 21st, 2009
2:05 am
Well, as long as you’re not seriously wanting to do Paul Lentz harm.
He might be a tool, but I hope you’re not serious. Kidding about it is funny, but actually wanting to hunt the guy down is kind of creepy…
birddawgbill
July 21st, 2009
2:09 am
Abomb I agree that Cox seemto be figuring out the lineup and how about the fact hes also seemed to figure out a starter can go more than 7 innings.
The Real Bobby
July 21st, 2009
2:09 am
The Real Bobby
LOL. Dude, you’re like the blog’s version of Dog the Bounty Hunter.
You’re hilarious! — Necromancer
Thanks, man. It’s good to see that some people are actually keeping up with what’s going on with the blog. There are some, that have to go. jed and birddawgbill (huh?), either you are an aka of the a–hole, or you need a little more time to learn.
birddawgbill
July 21st, 2009
2:10 am
I meant 6 innings
The A Bomb
July 21st, 2009
2:12 am
Birddawgbill — that was my big rant on July 4 — Hanson was in total control and he pulled him. Tonight, he let him go against Sandoval — SUCCESS!
He still needs to stop using Gonzalez like a rented mule.
jed
July 21st, 2009
2:13 am
epinephrine– hitting coaches are like pitching coaches: the better hitters and pitchers you have, the smarter you are. look at leo mazzone. a genius in atlanta during their run with the big 3, then suddenly an imbecile in baltimore.
The Real Bobby
July 21st, 2009
2:13 am
Well, as long as you’re not seriously wanting to do Paul Lentz harm.
He might be a tool, but I hope you’re not serious. Kidding about it is funny, but actually wanting to hunt the guy down is kind of creepy…
Necromancer, No comment. However, if I’m the Dentz-head, I wouldn’t make my address public. It would be smart of him!
Epinephrine
July 21st, 2009
2:14 am
Hanson needs to be on a strict pitch count. Throwing him away to injury so the Braves can keep abreast in the wild card race is absurd. Once he hits 100-110, he needs to come out. I don’t think hard PCs are great as a strict rule, but with young pitchers, there is a clear correlation between overuse and arm trouble. Couple that with Hanson’s weird delivery, and yeah, the Braves need to be careful. So cry me a river when he gets lifted sometimes in the 6th.
birddawgbill
July 21st, 2009
2:15 am
Real bobby learn what that youre not here to talk ball. Because I would love to talk ball with you and everybody else.But when was your last blog about baseball dude. I didnt really mean to insult you I just wanted you to get on subject.
jed
July 21st, 2009
2:19 am
i’ve been here a long time, mr. bundy. i said earlier that paul’s egotism grates on my nerves too, but at least the man can post reasonably intelligent comments. wish i could say the same for you.
The A Bomb
July 21st, 2009
2:20 am
Epinephrine. . . Hanson is 6-6, 220 — a horse — once in awhile you climb up and ride — not every time. In Washington he was in total control and he was pulled. We lost.
He’s a 5th starter meaning his turn does not have to come up every time. But when the horse is galloping you ride the horse.
Leaving Hanson in tonight to pitch out of it was HUGE. He has been throwing 70% strikes since the start in D.C.
You need to be careful with every pitcher — but when you have a dominant performance going you ride the horse.
jj
July 21st, 2009
2:20 am
It really pisses me off when a player blames someone else for their shortcomings.When this player,KJ.was going good in The ATL it was all good with TP.When he struggles,it’s TP.I thought it was an injury that was causing him problems.I guess TP is Prado,GA,Escabor and a lot of other guys problem also.Kelly,maybe it’s the pitching you are facing and maybe you are just a great AAA player.I believe KJ is lobbying Bobby for another chance in The Show.I remember whe Edgar was here and Escabor was playing second,this same KJ complained about not playing.At the time the Braves were rolling with Escabor and Edgar at the top of the order.Edgar gets hurt and KJ returns and we know the rest.I believe KJ really believes BC will reinstate him in the lineup at the first chance.It’s happened before and he believe’s he earned the right to start.Truth be told,KJ,you was given the job in the first place.Grow up and stop blaming others.
birddawgbill
July 21st, 2009
2:21 am
Epinephrine I understand that about young players and thats why last night I even suggested Hanson to the pen when Hudson returns to cut his innings. But Cox has done this with everyone the last few yrs. Look at the number of CGs the braves have and then look at how many relievers always seem to be wore out and ineffective by mid August
nolie
July 21st, 2009
2:22 am
Sorry nolie. I meant it s been proven that a team with vry good pitching can almost always shut these types of teams down. Sure theyll have games where theyll beat up even very good pitching but not very often. (bird)
good pitching can shut down any team. Like I said, check it out and learn something from the facts rather than what you think you’ve heard. High K totals are not a hindrance to scoring runs, You keep dragging pitching into it, which is not what I responded to. Good pitching is always a plus, perhaps the biggest plus there is . OBP, OPS have a much higher correlation with runs scored that whether a team has high Ks. Just go look.
Knowing how many times a team’s batter struck out doesn’t really help us to predict a team’s winning percentage quote from a statistical analysis at the following site.
http://spiff.rit.edu/richmond/baseball/order/correlation_example.html
that’s all folks. believe what you will
Necromancer
July 21st, 2009
2:22 am
No More Bobby
I have to admit, Lentz has probably insulted at least 80% of the bloggers here.
Something that I’m going to have to MAKE myself do is just scroll past his redundant posts and just simply ignore him.
If more people would ignore Lentz, then that would take away his power.
I know, I have no room to talk. But I’m going to start following that standard of just simply ignoring the dude..especially when he starts off on his anti religion rants.
Anyways…the Braves are doing well now. I’m going to draw from that and be happy!
Buenas Noches!
jed
July 21st, 2009
2:24 am
hanson to the pen? really?
nolie
July 21st, 2009
2:28 am
nite y’all. have a goodun. see ya later in the day.
Epinephrine
July 21st, 2009
2:29 am
A Bomb, I have no idea what “riding a horse” has to with giving your best prospect a one way ticket to Tommy John surgery, but color me not convinced.
jed
July 21st, 2009
2:32 am
Enter your comments here
The Real Bobby
July 21st, 2009
2:33 am
I didnt really mean to insult you I just wanted you to get on subject. —
birddawgbill. I’ve never been more, “ON SUBJECT”, in my life. I’ve been away all weekend. First things first. First I deal with the biggest scum of the blog, and then, I discuss Braves baseball. Capiche?
The A Bomb
July 21st, 2009
2:37 am
It means when a pitcher is dominant you leave him in there to secure the win. On July 4 Hanson gave up a solo HR to Dunn – he was in total command. You leave him in to pitch the 8th instead of handing the game to an exhausted Gonzalez. If he gets in trouble you pull him.
Didn’t need the 8th inning bridge that day — it cost us a game in the standings.
You don’t have to be convinced — doesn’t matter — but Cox stuck with him for the final out of the 7th tonight because of that dominance — 70% strikes. He got through it and now gets four days rest with a little over 100 pitches.
Capt Caveman
July 21st, 2009
2:42 am
To Paul Lentz from REALITY — Get a grip, dude. You as so full of yourself it is embarrassing. Nothing you say or post will affect what the Braves front office does. I actually talk to a friend of mine who works for the Braves FO, but even I don’t think for one minute that anything I say gets “considered”. The people who run the Braves are considered some of the best in baseball, believe me they’ve got all the know how the need. They’re not looking to you or anyone else for insight. MORON !!!!
birddawgbill
July 21st, 2009
2:47 am
Bobby if you dont like him thats fine. Heck I argued with him last night but it was about baseball not some rant that has nothing to do with ball. Now I would like to say congrats to Frenchy on a big night. This is where I agree with Paul,being a local boy the pressure had to be hard plus you just know he had family and friends that were relaying some of the negative blogs to him. Alot of people on here seem to forget the players are people too.They have the same feelings as we do theyre not super human. Last night people were saying hed be out of MLB in two years. I personally hope with less pressure he has a long productive carearr.
The Real Bobby
July 21st, 2009
2:47 am
Necromancer, sometime you have to tell me what that moniker means. Anyway, your idea, Something that I’m going to have to MAKE myself do is just scroll past his redundant posts and just simply ignore him.
If more people would ignore Lentz, then that would take away his power. Won’t work. He’s lost most of the posters. He still posts. Now, most of the posters, read him just to make fun of him. He still posts. He is so unaware of what an a–hole he is, no matter how many times he’s told, that he just keeps coming, and coming. He’s like the Energizer Bunny, except picture a big, ugly, a–hole. I don’t believe that I’ve ever come across anyone so stupid. He has a reasonable education, because he can form sentences, into paragraphs, as we all are aware of, without too many grammatical errors. However, and most of the bloggers would agree, how can anyone be that thick?
jed
July 21st, 2009
2:52 am
“He is so unaware of what an a–hole he is, no matter how many times he’s told, that he just keeps coming, and coming.”
ah, the beautiful irony….
The Real Bobby
July 21st, 2009
2:53 am
Necromancer, I was addressing you on my 2:47, because I felt your “No More Bobby”, was a mistake.
The Real Bobby
July 21st, 2009
2:59 am
Capt Caveman, I’m glad you stopped by. However, I hafta get some sleep. Anyway, I hope I’m around when you have more fun and games:
OK — Today’s quick parlay bet is gonna be based on the number 50.
Over/Under 50
Number of posts by Paul Lentz before midnight –
Number of words capitalized on a single page by Paul Lentz –
Number of posts by Paul Lentz containing both the word MORON and IDIOTS –
Number of posters that Paul Lentz responds to by midnight –
And for the bonus teaser — Correctly guess who would make more friends at a poker game that included both Paul Lentz and Phil Helmuth …….
Winner gets a chicken dinner
My answer on your bonus teaser: Hitler, Sadaam Hussein, and the “Son of Sam”. (I have a longer list, if necessary.)
birddawgbill
July 21st, 2009
3:01 am
Jed who would you send to the pen. I just believe it makes as much sense as anyone else. In general a power arm works better than a finnese arm in the pen.And the Braves really watch IP with their young guys. and this would do it.Dont get me wrong I think hes a stud but think about the pen that would give the braves(Hanson, Moylan,Gonzo,Soriano,O’Flaherty)
jed
July 21st, 2009
3:04 am
i’d put hudson in the pen when he returns. easier on his arm. agreed though that they need to keep a close eye on hanson.
jed
July 21st, 2009
3:09 am
tell you what i’m looking forward to is the return of both hudson and infante. if hudson’s able to pitch an inning a night effectively, he’ll be a big boost. and if infante can return and hit effectively, you’ve got a great RF platoon w/him & church. those are big if’s though. usually after TJ surgery, pitchers take a while before they’re sharp. same with the bone infante broke. takes a while to heal up enough that they can swing effectively. but if they both return at 80 percent, they could still provide a lot of help.