Will Braves take series at Wrigley?

 Chicago – On an cool, rainy day in the city where Muddy Waters, Howlin’ Wolf, Buddy Guy and so many others made their bones, the Braves will try to shake their road blues today and finally get a series win away from home.

Kawakami faces Cubs in today's finale

Kawakami faces Cubs today

 OK, that was a reach. But we’re trying to crank out this blog quickly before the first pitch. Just got back from the clubhouse, and for those who didn’t see the lineup we posted earlier, Chipper Jones is not in it, but Brian McCann is.
 Chipper (sore groin) is out for the second consecutive game, as expected, since he felt a twinge while coming out of the batter’s box on a single in the series opener. He says he’s doing better and will try to play tomorrow.
  If I were him, I would probably try to play tomorrow’s series opener at Colorado, too. Chipper’s got a .327 career average with 21 doubles, 12 homers and 53 RBI in 52 games at Coors Field, with a 1.021 OPS.
  That’s in stark contrast to his numbers here at Wrigley, where he’s hit .206 with nine homers, 29 RBI and a .622 OPS in 49 games.
  Oh, sure, the Braves could certainly use him today as they try to snap a string of six consecutive non-winning road series (five series losses, one split) since their series win May 11-13 against the Mets at decidedly not-Shea Stadium.
  But the Braves would also rather have him back healthy than for this latest injury to become a recurring thing if he tries to get back in the lineup too soon.
  As for McCann, I thought Bobby Cox might rest him for the day game today, especially when I looked at the numbers for McCann and backup catcher David Ross at Coors Field. McCann rakes there, and Ross does not. To say the least.
  McCann has hit .368 with three homers and 11 RBI in 10 games at Coors, while Ross is 3-for-31 (.097) with one homer, no walks and 12 strikeouts in 12 games at the mile-high ballpark.
  But, hey, the Braves want to win today, and Cox probably thinks Chipper and McCann out of the lineup at the same time isn’t the best way to go about that.
Also, today’s starter, Kenshin Kawakami, has a 3.52 ERA with McCann as his catcher, and a 7.17 ERA with Ross.
  When I asked Cox if McCann was in the lineup, the manager, who was in a particularly jovial mood this morning, said with mock seriousness: “Mac? He signed a contract didn’t he.”
  That’s old-school baseball humor there. You know, he’s signed, right? So he’s playing. (OK, real old school.)
  Anyway, he added, “How do you take out the guy who knocked in your only runs.”
  (As most of you know, McCann had a pair of two-out hits last night to drive in both Braves runs in their 2-1 win against the Cubs.)

 ♣ Afternoon raking: I bet that most of you didn’t realize — I didn’t, before looking it up this morning — that the Braves have the second-best team batting average in the league in day games, .277 to the Dodgers’ .290.
  And leading the way are Martin Prado (.349) and Matt Diaz (.339).
  Prado is, of course, in the lineup today, playing third base instead of second base for the second game in a row, in place of Chipper. Prado is 22-for-63 (.349) with 10 doubles, two homers and a .423 OBP and .603 slugging percentage in 21 day games. Impressive numbers.
  But Diaz isn’t far off, at 19-for-56 with six doubles, a triple, two homers, and a .397 OBP and .589 slugging percentage.
  So, one more reason to wonder why isn’t he playing instead of Jeff Francoeur in RF? Several other people I talked to this morning had the same question. But other than to ask Bobby if Diaz is healthy (he is), you don’t get a pregame answer by pushing that a step further and asking him, “Then why is Francoeur playing?”
  Francoeur’s struggles are well-documented. Diaz has been blazing hot, with a six-game hitting streak and a string of five multi-hit games both snapped when he went 0-for-4 on Monday … and his streak of starts snapped the following day.
  Diaz politely declined to talk about being out of the lineup in favor of Francoeur for the second straight day.
  I can only figure this is about Cox’s noted loyalty and patience, particularly with Francoeur. Because it’s not like there are teams calling with trade offers, not like they’re trying to showcase him for someone.
  (As much as some here on the blog wish they would trade him, there simply hasn’t been any recent interest in Francoeur, who teams figure will be non-tendered by the Braves this offseason, so why would a team give up somoething to trade for him now, when he’s not hitting enough to help a team anyway?)

   ♣ Speaking of potential trades, already-strong interest in Javier Vazquez is only going to pick up after last night’s sparkling performance against a strong Cubs lineup. If the Braves pull the trigger on a deal for him, they’re assured of getting top talent in return. Just a matter of whether they want to blow that hold in their rotation right now in order to fill a glaring need in the lineup. They might want to wait at least to get a better idea if Tim Hudson is going to be ready for the last 4-6 weeks of the season and whether they think he and the team will both agree to pick up his option for next season.
  There’s also interest in co-closers Rafael Soriano and Mike Gonzalez, both eligible for free agency after this season. But again, the Braves have to decide which of those two (if either) they’re more likely to re-sign, and whether it’s worth creating that hole in their bullpen for the talent they’d get back.
  They’re not going to get anywhere near as much in return for one of those relievers as they would for Vazquez, who’s under contract for another entire season at a reasonable price (11.5 mill in 2010, same as this season).
  As we move closer to the July 31 trade deadline, the Braves need to make a strong push on the field if they want to assure their front office will be looking to add and not subtract before the deadline.
  Remember that lost series in Philly at about this time a year ago? Got to avoid one of those, and probably have to start winning series after series, if they’re going to convince Wren that a move for a bat can make the difference that puts them in the postseason.

  ♣ Speaking of day games, Cox can’t go wrong with his choice of catcher for afternoon tilts: McCann has hit .333 with four homers, 14 RBI and a 1.092 OPS in 18 day games, and Ross has hit .327 with five homers, 10 RBI and a 1.105 OPS in 16 day games.
  That, my friends, is what is known as a luxury.

 ♣ Schafer update: Center fielder Jordan Schafer had another MRI on his sore wrist yesterday, and it revealed nothing of consequence. So he’s scheduled to get a CAT scan done on it today, GM Frank Wren said this morning.

 ♣ OK, we’re about to start. (Or not, it’s raining lightly, tarp’s on field, gonna delay first pitch.) Let’s end this bloggage with a tune from Liz Phair’s stellar 1993 album Exile In Guyville (don’t know why she stopped making music as good as this, but I wish she’d resume). We’ll even link you to this video of her doing the song. Thank me later. (She’s easy on the eyes.)

“STRATFORD-ON-GUY” by Liz Phair

I was flying into Chicago at night
Watching the lake turn the sky into blue-green smoke
The sun was setting to the left of the plane
And the cabin was filled with an unearthly glow
In 27-D, I was behind the wing
Watching landscape roll out like credits on a screen

The earth looked like it was lit from within
Like a poorly assembled electrical ball
As we moved out of the farmlands into the grid
The plan of a city was all that you saw
And all of these people sitting totally still
As the ground raced beneath them, thirty-thousand feet down

It took an hour, maybe a day
But once I really listened the noise just fell away

And I was pretending that I was in a Galaxie 500 video
The stewardess came back and checked on my drink
In the last strings of sunlight, a Brigitte Bardot
As I had on my headphones
Along with those eyes that you get
When your circumstance is movie-size

It took an hour, maybe a day
But once I really listened the noise just fell away

It took an hour, maybe a day
But once I really listened the noise just fell away
But once I really listened the noise just fell away

1,838 comments Add your comment

Mark Twine

July 8th, 2009
2:18 pm

This ONE time at band camp

Chris

July 8th, 2009
2:23 pm

DOB, the radar looks unfavorable, how long till the call the game?

Chris

July 8th, 2009
2:23 pm

ECU Alum

July 8th, 2009
2:25 pm

How is it that Kotchman seems to avoid any bashing? Don’t get me wrong, I’m as frustrated as any braves fan with francoeur but Kotchman’s numbers for a first baseman are well, pathetic.

He is last among NL regular first baseman in Hr’s, SLG & OPS. So, we have a first baseman that doesn’t hit for power or average and has no speed but somehow seems to miss out on all the bashing. Why?

We hear about his glove but seriously, does his glove save more runs than his bat fails to generate?

Personally, I didn’t think Canizares did a bad job. That’s just my opinion, let the bashing begin.

Glen W

July 8th, 2009
2:25 pm

Glen W

July 8th, 2009
2:16 pm
Frenchy vs Diaz… any chance that Cox makes the decision based upon who is pitching for the Braves. Lowe starts, Diaz starts since Lowe is a gound ball pitcher, maybe the same for JJ. But if Vazquez or KK start (fly ball pitchers) he wants Frenchy out there.

MiltonDawg

July 8th, 2009
2:26 pm

Original Jon

July 8th, 2009
2:27 pm

Hey Everyone, for what its worth. Here’s a bit of information that might make you think twice about not having Francouer in the game. During the 5 game winning streak, Frenchy was playing RF everyday, during the 3 game losing streak we just had, Diaz played left field those days. We won yesterday and Frenchy was the starting RF’er. Now, I am not saying he is playing worth a crap, but maybe he is a good luck charm when is starting the game. Sure seems that way

a643dp

July 8th, 2009
2:28 pm

Just pretend its seattle

Duder

July 8th, 2009
2:28 pm

I hate the f*cking rain

Duder

July 8th, 2009
2:28 pm

Any prognosis on first pitch DOB?

fastasballs

July 8th, 2009
2:29 pm

As I said at the end of the last blog a rain out wouldn’t be so bad. Guys like Chipper & Mac could use the rest, amoung others. I think if Chipper can get a few more days off & the All Star break he will start to rake when the second half begins.

On the other hand I’d hate to skip KK again because his last start on extended rest wasn’t that great. He wasn’t sharp at all.

Mark Twine

July 8th, 2009
2:29 pm

The next 3 weeks for the braves are a win-win. if we we go on a hot streak for a month, hello playoffs. if we go 5-20 we are looking at getting some great pieces for the future. (although i prefer a 2 month hot streak duh)

Duder

July 8th, 2009
2:29 pm

Original Jon, no offense, but that post wasn’t worth bolding every word

RHR

July 8th, 2009
2:29 pm

Will Braves take series at Wrigley?
2:16 pm July 8, 2009, by David O’Brien

Chicago – On an cool, rainy day in the city where Muddy Waters, Howlin’ Wolf, Buddy Guy and so many others made their bones, the Braves will try to shake their road blues today and finally get a series win away from home.

:roll:

Go Braves anyway!

the hopes of the braves nation rest in your hands mr. hanson

July 8th, 2009
2:29 pm

i thought jeff grew up a boston fan? not an atlanta fan….

i thought his dream was to play for the red sox?

Glen W

July 8th, 2009
2:30 pm

ECU – at least Kotchman has good at bats. I agree with you that his numbers are quite sub-par for a first baseman. But at least he makes an effort to execute situationally and to stay within himself. You can see Kotchman trying to help his team in most situations. You just don’t consistently see that in frenchy.

I am not saying Frenchy does not play hard, but you don’t see the same mental effort in terms of trying to execute situationally. That my take on why Kotchman gets a bit of a pass.

Mark Twine

July 8th, 2009
2:30 pm

atleast its not d. lowe getting screwed by the rain again.

ncscoots

July 8th, 2009
2:30 pm

been waiting for you to bring [Morton] up.

Hey, if he were a +5 ERA, I’d have agreed that McLouth was a “steal”, too, LOL. Had to look it up to see how he was doing, so I could have gone either way on the position. :-) Believe me, I won’t be going all Wilson-Betemit over Charlie Morton in the future, regardless of how he fares..

MiltonDawg

July 8th, 2009
2:30 pm

french the bench is a curse. his “lucky” boxers are not doing anything for him. but overall, the entire team plays like an under 14 league..pathetic hitting and stranding way too many runners. i agree with ECU…Kotch’s #s are quite pathetic as well. WE NEED POWER!!

Epinephrine

July 8th, 2009
2:30 pm

I just don’t get how you can sit Francoeur given the fact that we keep winning when he starts. If you chart out our expected wins given Francouer’s winning ways, the Braves should pretty much go undefeated if he starts every day. You can’t argue with that, it’s science.

groundfog

July 8th, 2009
2:31 pm

SPSO is not doing JF any favors by airing that special. If I was in public relations for him, I would tell the to pull that special immediately. And people wonder why the dismdain for Jeff.

James is Red

July 8th, 2009
2:31 pm

DOB – Very nice on the Liz Phair. What a great album.

The Wreck

July 8th, 2009
2:31 pm

DOB – check your decade on the Liz Phair album. Oh, and you are right, she is definitely easy on the eyes.

abwright

July 8th, 2009
2:32 pm

Here’s hoping KK has a quality start with good command and that BMac builds on yesterday’s hitting success. I wouldn’t object to a home run form BMac today.

I see that there is a rain delay. Too bad Peachtree is showing its Spotlight on Francoeur, which I’ve seen enough, instead of the Spotlight on McCann, which I haven’t seen at all.

I’ve got to scratch my head on Francoeur. Without going all Lentz-ian on him, he’s shown that he is what he is. To expect him to “hit his way out of this stretch” is absurd at this point. Francoeur is a .240 hitter with occasional power. No amount of support and confidence building is going to change that.

If the Braves want to win this series that badly, Diaz should be in RF instead of Francoeur.

the hopes of the braves nation rest in your hands mr. hanson

July 8th, 2009
2:32 pm

wow. just looked at the radar….

its going to be raining for awhile….like 4 or 5 hours at least.

would the just call it or would they just play tonight around 6 or 7?

David O'Brien

July 8th, 2009
2:32 pm

FIRST PITCH is scheduled for 2 p.m. (3 p.m. EDT)

David O'Brien

July 8th, 2009
2:34 pm

Chris, we’d be here a long, long time before they’d call this game, I think.

Because Braves and Cubs don’t play again this season, and mutual off-days are in very short supply for teams now (Braves have already used two of them to schedule makeup games, including the recent one with the Cubs in Atlanta).

We’re playing ball today. Might take a while, but we’ll get it in.

Chris

July 8th, 2009
2:34 pm

Slow moving storm, better change the start time to 3 central.

Chris

July 8th, 2009
2:35 pm

Thanks for the response DOB!

Steve from OH

July 8th, 2009
2:35 pm

Chip sounds (and makes much better points) on the radio…

Jerry

July 8th, 2009
2:37 pm

DOB…Have you heard anything of the braves trying to get one our 2 closers signed before the deadline so they could trade the other. I would like to keep them both but money will surely be tight.

McFann :Ô:

July 8th, 2009
2:37 pm

Thanks for the new Blog, Chief!

When I asked Cox if McCann was in the lineup, the manager, who was in a particularly jovial mood this morning, said with mock seriousness: “Mac? He signed a contract didn’t he.”

:lol: Good ol’ Bobby…

McCann has hit .368 with three homers and 11 RBI in 10 games at Coors…today’s starter, Kenshin Kawakami, has a 3.52 ERA with McCann as his catcher, and a 7.17 ERA with Ross.

No! What’d ya hafta say all that for?? :roll:

;)

The_Superhoo

July 8th, 2009
2:37 pm

Thanks for the update DOB!

timthebrave

July 8th, 2009
2:37 pm

If there is any way to play this game even if it takes 6+ hours they will. I don’t think we are scheduled to play Chicago again this year

dogsbrekky

July 8th, 2009
2:38 pm

God how about mentioning the great Muddy Waters in the same bloggage with that tease Liz Phair

Liz Phair is the Frenchy of music, one great start followed disappointment

abwright

July 8th, 2009
2:38 pm

DOB – thanks for the update on Schafer. Sounds like the wrist was much worse than reported while he was with the bigs, but not so bad that he’ll need surgery.

I read recently (last blog?) that Greg Norton was off the DL but not yet activated. Is it likely that he will get recalled? or released?

McFann :Ô:

July 8th, 2009
2:39 pm

abwright Too bad Peachtree is showing its Spotlight on Francoeur, which I’ve seen enough, instead of the Spotlight on McCann, which I haven’t seen at all.

Annoying, isn’t it? I’ve only seen bits and pieces of Spotlight: Brian McCann. They always hafta show Francoeur’s

They’ve got a few clips of BMac’s special here, but some things are cut out…

Jersey Gil

July 8th, 2009
2:40 pm

Accuweather say by 5:00 Pm Central should be Partly Sunny for Chicago O’Hare area.

McFann :Ô:

July 8th, 2009
2:40 pm

3 o’clock EDT? Hope so…

BL

July 8th, 2009
2:40 pm

No one should be safe ECU. We need aluminum bats

Baba O'Riley

July 8th, 2009
2:40 pm

Now IF and I realize it’s a bif if JF gets a couple of hits and an RBI or two today, will everyone here that asks what Bobby is thinking, show up and say they were wrong?

Jerry

July 8th, 2009
2:40 pm

DOB… What about a quick question and answer thing before game starts up

CorkylikesBeer

July 8th, 2009
2:43 pm

Day games at Wrigley Field are a blast even when it rains….DOB…are you having some good meals up there?

ECU Alum

July 8th, 2009
2:43 pm

Glen W – I agree, Kotchman does look better getting out compared to Frenchy.

With Francoeur, there doesn’t seem to be anyone in Gwinett that could step up right now. With Kotchman, Canizares is there putting up the numbers but is overlooked.

There has to be something we don’t know. Maybe Canizares reminds Bobby of Scott Thorman too much.

Duder

July 8th, 2009
2:43 pm

Jerry, isn’t that what the blog is?

McFann :Ô:

July 8th, 2009
2:43 pm

abwright I wouldn’t object to a home run form BMac today.

Me neither, actually.

DP

July 8th, 2009
2:43 pm

Unbelievable. Fox Sports South is showing a 30 minute puff piece on the life and times of the legendary Jeff Francouer during the rain delay. How he was such a little competitor in t-ball. A tour of his old bedroom with his Little League trophies. Good God, you’d think he was the second coming of Henry Aaron.

DOB, when Bobby Cox asked how he could not play the guy who drove in both runs last night, you could have asked him how he could bench a guy hitting over .500 for the last week for a guy whose OPS is 164th out of 167 position players in the NL.

Rick

July 8th, 2009
2:45 pm

I’m betting on a 5pm cdt start time. No way they start at 2pm cdt. If they do, they’ll get in just enough baseball to waste the starters after 2 innings – which would definitely favor the Cubs given their starter is starting for the first time.

Jackie Treehorn

July 8th, 2009
2:45 pm

DOB,

When I consider a match for a team trading for Vazquez, I keep coming back to the Phillies. I know Atlanta is reluctant to deal within the division, especially to a team like the Phillies. But a trade of Jayson Werth for Vazquez seems perfect for both clubs. Werth would be the perfect addition to this team as a right handed hitting right fielder, and the Phillies would kill for a guy like Vazquez to anchor the top of their rotation, and they wouldn’t have to give up someone like Jason Donald. What are your thoughts?

Robert (Chipper Is The Best)

July 8th, 2009
2:45 pm

What do you guys think about a deal between the Braves and Rangers with the principle players being Gonzo, Kotchman, Andruw or Murphy, and Crhis Davis. The Rangers throw in one of their good pitching prospects with Davis and Andruw/Murphy for Gonzo and Kotchman. I know Davis’ batting average is horrible and he strikesout a lot but he has hit 17 HR which would be by far the leader on this team.

timthebrave

July 8th, 2009
2:46 pm

I think that Kotchman is still a solid first baseman. His fielding more than makes up for his lack of production. IMO. Go Braves

Jerry

July 8th, 2009
2:46 pm

Duder.. I was thinking of a little more interaction while things are at a standstill. Not complaining at all just saw an opportunity

Robert Goulet

July 8th, 2009
2:47 pm

DOB did you get your copy of DBT live in Austin? It is fantasitic!

Shaun

July 8th, 2009
2:47 pm

Anyone listen to Buck and Kincaid yesterday? Kincaid asked folks to call in an play assistant GM to his Frank Wren as he came up with trade scenarios.

One scenario: The Nationals get their choice of one of the top two prospects (presumably Heyward or Freeman) for Adam Dunn.

It’s amazing how many people said ‘yes’ to this deal. A one-dimensional, relatively expensive player whose peak years are likely behind him (albeit still a great power hitter for several more seasons). And some folks actually think it would be okay to give up Heyward or Freeman. I could see maybe supporting Freeman for Dunn and cash or Dunn and a very good prospect (which probably wouldn’t happen) but one of these guys for Dunn straight up?

timthebrave

July 8th, 2009
2:48 pm

Robert, I think we need someone that hits for average and power to make a big difference. That is why I’m not a huge fan of giving away talent for a rent a player that strikes out too much(Dunn)

C's

July 8th, 2009
2:49 pm

Jeff should have went to Clemson.

Robert (Chipper Is The Best)

July 8th, 2009
2:49 pm

Jackie, if the Braves traded Vasquez to the Phillies they would have to give us a lot more than freakin Jason Werth.

Coach (Moon Pie, Anyone?)

July 8th, 2009
2:50 pm

Charlie Morton? 1-1 with an ERA of 2.65 so far in Pittsburgh.

Do ya’ll see why this was such a good trade for both teams…..NOW????

David O'Brien

July 8th, 2009
2:52 pm

Lunatic Fringe, very funny post near end of the other blog, about the “tough questions” for Cox.

Daniel: Yes, Manchester Orchestra’s CD a couple years back was good, but this latest one just blows it away. I’d have it on my best-of-the-year list right now, for sure.

BL

July 8th, 2009
2:53 pm

We would have no blog if JF talk and trade proposals were banned. Thanks to all who give new ideas and thoughts.

ITP Brave

July 8th, 2009
2:53 pm

Let’s be honest… the Braves aren’t going anywhere in 2009. Even if they somehow sneak into the playoffs, they are going to get killed by LA or STL in the first round.

Presuming Huddy can pitch again, I think we need to trade Vazquez. We can get a ML-ready bat for him, plus another prospect (maybe two). I also think that Gonzales needs to go, although I think Soriano’s value is much, much higher. Between the two, though, I think Soriano is the one to resign.

I suspect Francouer isn’t going anywhere, unless he’s packaged with Vazquez in a deal for a bat. I also suspect that KJ isn’t going anywhere until he’s nontendered at the end of the season.

It’s a lot of “ifs,” but if Huddy can come back in 2010 and if the Braves can get some quality pieces for Vazquez and Gonzales, they could be a pretty good team next season.

Baba O'Riley

July 8th, 2009
2:54 pm

This trade will best evaluated in a couple of years.

Coach (Moon Pie, Anyone?)

July 8th, 2009
2:54 pm

O boy, I’m listening to Chip Carey on the radio and he just brought up Roy Halliday and the Braves in the same sentence. What a maaaaroooon!!!!

dogsbrekky

July 8th, 2009
2:56 pm

Whoever mentioned Vazquez for Jason Werth, yes but make it D Lowe for Werth (and I am a big Lowe supporter)

Coach (Moon Pie, Anyone?)

July 8th, 2009
2:56 pm

The Phillies would have to trade the farm for Vazquez…………and that’s the whole IDEA!!!!!

Rob from SC (Please don't trade Escobar)

July 8th, 2009
2:56 pm

Shaun

What can I say about your post except there are som STUPID Braves fans out there.

Homer

July 8th, 2009
2:56 pm

Rob from SC (Please don't trade Escobar)

July 8th, 2009
2:56 pm

Nova Scotia Steve

July 8th, 2009
2:57 pm

Good call Coach! Hope Morton continues to do well…and yes it was a good trade for both teams!

Steve from OH

July 8th, 2009
2:57 pm

O boy, I’m listening to Chip Carey on the radio and he just brought up Roy Halliday and the Braves in the same sentence. What a maaaaroooon!!!!

Yeah, I heard that too. Couldn’t help but laugh…

Shaun

July 8th, 2009
2:57 pm

Jackie, Vazquez for Werth will never happen because it is within the division and both teams are contenders at this point. Plus as Robert points out, Vazquez is noticeably more valuable than Werth. Vazquez could have easily been an all-star. Werth is a fine player but he’s not likely to make too many all-star teams.

dogsbrekky

July 8th, 2009
2:58 pm

Frenchy is a worthless option at this time

The only thing to do with a worthless call is to put it in a drawer (AA) and forget about it for a long time

Jeff321

July 8th, 2009
2:58 pm

Just saw the national anthem so game time should be any minute now.

DAP

July 8th, 2009
2:59 pm

timthebrave adam dunn doesnt strikeout too much. he is exactly what this team needs. not that i think its feasible to get him, but he would be perfect.

DevilInLaw

July 8th, 2009
2:59 pm

DOB,

Any chance that Diaz gets 2 or 3 of the 4 starts in Colorado where the Braves will face 4 right-handed starting pitchers? It’s just brutal to have Diaz, who is scorching hot, have his hot hitting get iced by his own manager.

Also, did anyone ask Cox why he used Diaz to bunt instead of Hernandez or Blanco last night?

Bravo!

July 8th, 2009
2:59 pm

DOB, we all know how difficult this past off season was on the front office. The Peavy courtship, Furcal, etc. may have exposed that many players no longer seem willing to come to Atlanta anymore. Do you think this factor may cause Frank Wren to be a little more willing to work towards a trade this year, even if it doesn’t necessarily help this season?

Jackie Treehorn

July 8th, 2009
3:00 pm

Robert (Chipper is the Best):

Have you seen Jayson Werth hit this season? Dude is a beast, a middle of the order version of Nate McLouth who is young and cheap and he mashes.

Here are his numbers for 2009: .264, 18 homers, 51 RBIs, 12 stolen bases. He’s 30 years old and is coming off a 20-20 season a year ago, and will probably have a 30-20 year this year.

Who would you rather have? Two months of Matt Holliday?

Shaun

July 8th, 2009
3:00 pm

The Phillies would have to trade the farm for Vazquez…………and that’s the whole IDEA!!!!!

You really think the Phillies would do that? Trade great prospects within their division? If they are going to trade a ton of great prospects, they’d probably trade for someone like Halladay–someone better than Vazquez and outside the division.

MiltonDawg

July 8th, 2009
3:02 pm

Can we trade GA?? i mean watching him hit and play is so painful. he just has that lazy a$$ look to him like he hates being here in ATL. he can’t run or cover the field..he runs parallel to the ball instead of cutting it off. is this just me or what?

abwright

July 8th, 2009
3:02 pm

Hart is on the mound throwing his final pitches. Game should start in a few minutes.

Braves could trade Kotchman and Logan to the Rangers for Andrus, Salty, Harrison, and Feliz. Think they’d go for that?

Efrim

July 8th, 2009
3:03 pm

This from Baseball America’s Jim Callis in a chat today:

Vince (Palm Springs): Jim, can you give me scouting information on J.J. Hoover. His single A stats look to be pretty good so far, whip 1.17, 83/11 K/BB

Jim Callis: Workhorse-type starter with four solid pitches, starting with an 88-92 mph sinker.

Jordan33

July 8th, 2009
3:03 pm

I’m almost afraid of the Braves playing well the next three weeks for fear we might further deplete our system to obtain some rental bat like Holliday. I also think we aren’t really going anywhere and would rather us trade Javy for 1-2 TOP prospects who are major league ready. We could pick up Huddy’s option, sign either Gonzo or Soriano and collected a draft pick for whichever leaves.

BUILD FOR THE FUTURE!

Coach (Moon Pie, Anyone?)

July 8th, 2009
3:04 pm

Yo Shaun, what team has played 245 straight games of sub .500 baseball over the course of the last season and a half ? TAKE A WILD GUESS…….. GENIUS ???????

Jackie Treehorn

July 8th, 2009
3:04 pm

Shaun, yes, Vazquez is more valuable than Werth, but he’s also about 8 million dollars less expensive, and he fills a HUGE need for Atlanta. We could probably squeeze a prospect out of the Phillies in addition to Werth without taking too big of a step back.

I hate to say it, but as much as I like Javy, history dictates that he will not pitch as well in the second half. So let’s get a helluva return on our investment while we still can, no?

Shaun

July 8th, 2009
3:04 pm

Jackie, Werth and McLouth are fine players but are they worth one of the 15 best pitchers in baseball this season? Plus 30 is not all that young for a baseball player. I’d rather have neither Werth nor two months of Holliday for Vazquez.

Cubs are Ladies in DRAG

July 8th, 2009
3:05 pm

Eating a pizza, drinking some beer
Wondering if the rain’ll disappear
A Frenchman jumps out and says he can hit
A bullseye from 40 feet with his wife’s t.t

alas we all know
said man could not blow
the cobwebs from Pujols long bootlaces
with those god given Southern graces

Cause at OPS equal to six 2 zero
Jeff will never be
An Atlanta Braves hero

Oh let us CLONE eight McCann
even his Can’s CANS
To fill that right field posy

THEN the Bravos would be ROSY

go Kawakami

Steve from OH

July 8th, 2009
3:05 pm

Hey Coach, why don’t you address the man’s point? It’s a pretty good one.

Efrim

July 8th, 2009
3:06 pm

Brad (Georgia): Freddie Freeman a mid-season top 25′er?

Jim Callis: Not quite for me, but he’s getting close.

MiltonDawg

July 8th, 2009
3:06 pm

Coach i wouldn’t even call it sub .500- how’s pi$$ poor baseball with hitters that have limp wrists?

Bill (SC)

July 8th, 2009
3:07 pm

Great AB for Prado. Let’s be patient today at the plate.

Rob from SC (Please don't trade Escobar)

July 8th, 2009
3:07 pm

Got to love Loaf!

ContactBuzz

July 8th, 2009
3:07 pm

“DOB did you get your copy of DBT live in Austin? It is fantasitic!”

I’ll second it – the 18 Wheels of Love monologue alone is worth the price.

abwright

July 8th, 2009
3:07 pm

Martin Prado draws a walk to break up Hart’s perfect game. GA, for the first time in the three hole, grounds into a DP on the first pitch he sees.

Efrim

July 8th, 2009
3:07 pm

I would not trade Vazquez for Werth. If they are trading Vazquez, shouldn’t it be for several controllable, young players/prospects?

Bill (SC)

July 8th, 2009
3:07 pm

So much for patience. :)

Bill (SC)

July 8th, 2009
3:08 pm

10 pitches for Hart: 2 – McLouth; 7 – Prado; 1 – Anderson

18 Wheels of Love

July 8th, 2009
3:09 pm

My ears are burning…

Bill (SC)

July 8th, 2009
3:09 pm

The goal is not to end the game as quickly as possible! :)

Shaun

July 8th, 2009
3:09 pm

Yo Shaun, what team has played 245 straight games of sub .500 baseball over the course of the last season and a half ? TAKE A WILD GUESS…….. GENIUS ???????

What’s your point? So the Phillies would want to lift up the Braves by giving them a ton of great prospects that would fit in nicely with guys like Hanson, Heyward and Freeman? “Here, let’s greatly increase the odds that a team in our division can destroy us in a couple of years by giving them all our great young players.”

Jackie, If Werth is cheap and good, why would they give him up a quality prospect that would be worth it to the Braves AND Werth for Vazquez? Plus there is the whole inter-divisional thing.

Goldenglove002

July 8th, 2009
3:09 pm

When the offseason comes around, and FW has to decide on what to do with Gonzo and Soriano, how much would it cost if arbitration was offered and accepted by one of them? If it isn’t a bad price, I think the braves should resign one and offer arb to the other. It sure isn’t hurting having the 2 of them work the 8th and 9th innings. Other option could be to just plain out resign both, which I’d be perfectly happy with.

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