3:47 pm July 7, 2009, by David O'Brien
July 7th, 20094:37 pm
Two Braves and no x-Braves on the list!!
MIDSEASON MINOR LEAGUE ALL-STAR TEAM
Pos PLAYER AVG OBP SLG AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS
C #Carlos Santana, Akron (Indians) .269 .403 .498 227 50 61 17 1 11 47 53 38 0 1
Santana remains a steady defender and polished hitter who has adjusted to the attention he’s getting from opposing pitchers.
1B Jake Fox, Iowa (Cubs) .409 .495 .841 164 44 67 14 3 17 53 21 31 2 1
Fox was the minors’ hottest hitter before a big league trial during interleague play, and he’s filling in at third in Chicago.
2B Scott Sizemore, Erie/Toledo (Tigers) .308 .396 .536 289 47 89 23 5 11 47 39 54 8 4
Consistent production at the upper levels of the minor leagues has put Sizemore in position to help the big league club sooner than later.
3B *Lonnie Chisenhall, Kinston (Indians) .283 .355 .504 276 42 78 18 2 13 55 26 60 0 0
In his first full pro season, the 2008 first-round pick ranks among the Carolina League leaders in homers, RBIs and hits.
SS *Dee Gordon, Great Lakes (Dodgers) .311 .373 .405 299 57 93 9 8 1 19 22 52 41
Tom Gordon’s son has proved to be a flash on the basepaths, with dynamic speed and an emerging bat.
CF Chris Heisey, Carolina/Louisville (Reds) .350 .423 .584 286 59 100 21 2 14 44 33 35 14 1
While injuries ravaged Double-A Carolina, Heisey kept showing all five tools and earned a promotion to Triple-A. Not bad for a 17th-round pick.
OF Thomas Neal, San Jose (Giants) .349 .427 .612 255 53 89 22 3 13 47 27 53 0 0
Injuries slowed Neal’s development, but he’s started tapping into his hitting potential while staying healthy.
OF Michael Taylor, Reading (Phillies) .350 .414 .606 274 53 96 17 4 15 58 26 44 14 4
Three years ago, scouts liked to criticize Taylor as just another Stanford hitter with an inside-out swing. Now he’s a masher with surprising speed and star potential.
DH *Cody Johnson, Myrtle Beach (Braves) .275 .366 .574 251 35 69 15 0 20 53 36 94 6 4
Yes, he strikes out a lot. He’s also just 20, already has 20 homers this season and is doing it at Myrtle Beach, a notorious pitcher’s park.
Pos Player W L ERA G GS SV IP H HR BB SO G/F WHIP AVG
SP *Madison Bumgarner, S.J./Conn. (Giants) 8 2 1.79 13 12 0 70.1 55 1 16 61 0.72 1.01 .215
The best pitching prospect left in the minors does it in textbook fashion, pounding opponents into submission one fastball at a time.
SP Tommy Hanson, Gwinnett (Braves) 3 3 1.49 11 11 0 66.1 40 5 17 90 0.73 0.86 .169
Throwing four pitches for strikes, at times all of them plus, made Hanson a Triple-A ace and now he’s Atlanta’s best starter.
SP Casey Kelly, Greenville/Salem (Red Sox) 7 3 1.50 15 15 0 84 53 2 12 67 0.77 0.77 .176
The two-way debate seems settled—Kelly can pitch. He’s also used his athletic ability to show polished command.
SP Mat Latos, Fort Wayne/S.A. (Padres) 7 1 1.28 11 9 0 63.1 37 1 12 65 1.69 0.77 .169
One of the minors’ most electric arms, Latos already has jumped to Double-A in his first year in full-season ball.
SP Brian Matusz, Fred./Bowie (Orioles) 6 2 1.96 13 13 0 78 62 5 25 90 1.52 1.12 .215
The highest-drafted pitcher in 2008 has made his amateur scouting reports (extreme polish, varied repertoire) look prescient, as he’s already in Double-A.
RP Pat Venditte, Charles./Tampa (Yankees) 2 2 1.42 29 0 20 31.2 24 1 2 40 1.52 0.82 .207
The stuff isn’t premium, but the results are. Venditte doesn’t walk anybody, gets groundball outs and famously switch-pitches
July 7th, 20094:38 pm
Any idea who we will see pitching tomorrow then DOB?
Have you watched the “Know Your Braves” with Kris Medlen? Funny stuff…
I hope we get to Zambrano early. And I mean “get to” him in every sense of the word. Both in that we score a lot of runs and we piss him off. Not difficult to do (the latter at least).
Steve from OH
Hmmm…simply proof that (yet again) toes are not to be trifled with.
Here’s to a complete and total Big Z meltdown tonight. I want to see him chase his catcher (or the homeplate umpire will do, I guess) around the field brandishing a bat, caveman-style. At the very least, I look forward to an entertaining 12-round fight between Z and his least favorite water cooler.
That Emmitt Smith page is great, thanks for the link. I am a huge Cowboy fan and can’t get enough of Emmitt, but you have to understand that Emmitt graduated from Florida, which explains a lot.
July 7th, 20094:39 pm
Zambrano is a head case. Almost as much so as Milton Bradley. I bet if those two weren’t on the team, the Cubs would be in much better shape.
Nova Scotia Steve
I kind of hope Francouer is in the line-up tonight just to see the back-lash on this blog…lol…its amazing…
But ofcourse make him a game time scratch due to a well deserved nervous break-down…
July 7th, 20094:40 pm
DOB, I heard the voice of Walter Winchell reading your last post.
Great! Now we get Zambrano…but it is on short rest. Gold star to the first person who looks up his stats while working on short rest.
McLouth of the South
Somebody get Paul Lentz to pray for Zambrano!
Herschel – you cannot sell in a deep bear market when the only assets of value are required for survival
rather you just ride that bitch into mother earth…………. we go down with Liberty and Messrs Froggy, Johnson, Bennett and co
I for one pray we just say eff it and rebuild but keep KJ and rehabilitate, dump the insolent bums but try with KJ, seems like a great human being
July 7th, 20094:41 pm
This team, this manager, this management has a will to lose and lose they will
Matt may have had a tough night (yes he can look bad even from pitch to pitch) but his track record is proven that if he gets ABs he will produce positive results. Matt is a risk/reward hitter. Frenchy is risk/no chance of reward hitter. Matts worst day is a typical Frenchy day.
So now with Dempster on the DL, it looks like another team for which the Braves should scour for hitting prospects. Of our starting pitchers, KK and DLowe would be my prefferred trade pieces at this point, but there are likely obstacles in each case as we all know. In fact, I prefer not to trade any of them, and unless there is someone on the Cubs or in a three-way, I would hope no one will follow up any speculation here. But then, this is a Braves blog. Maybe they will take Frenchy and KJ off our hands.
Like I said last night, why is everyone so pissed with Jeff’s comments? All he did was repeat everything EVERYONE has been saying about him, for a long time. If you think KJ, a professional athlete, really accepts his job as a “cheerleader” (like he said he does) than you are crazy. At least he has some fire. No one likes riding the pine, unless of course you are KJ apparently.
Media is the media and they decide context at all times. DOB had the interview and we all know his feelings about the guy. Just poking the fire DOB
Did he kick something?
July 7th, 20094:42 pm
I’d like to see that too. Maybe we can get Phil Wellman to make a cameo in that would-be episode?
Chipper’s out of the line-up today. Francoeur is in it. Sigh…
July 7th, 20094:43 pm
To all those bloggers who keep talking about Adam Dunn, didn’t you read what Wren said about adding payroll.
really rodney? Trade two of the pitchers we got on the free agent market this year? That’s the dumbest suggestion that I’ve heard on this blog.
Braves announcers crack me talking about how the Braves are supposed to beat the sub-500 teams but keep failing. Ummmmm… guys look at the Braves record. Basically EVERY team in the MLB (including the lowly Nats who just won 2 of 3 from the Braves)looks at the Braves and say we should beat this sub-500 team. This team is headed one place – battling it out for last place. Won’t sniff 500 record again this season.
Oh, one other thought. Perhaps we can play off the Cubs and Brewers and Cards and up the ante on a trade.
July 7th, 20094:45 pm
Francouer in the lineup?
oh great lol when DOB said THIS JUST IN, i thought of a trade, and then dempster heads to the dl, while big zambrano comes in… when does the torture end…
Can’t wait to see what ailment Chipper has tonight? I am going to go with………..migraine.
rocky mtn braves fan
DOB: Don’t know if you will be in Denver for this weekends’ series, and if you are whether you will be in by Wednesday night, but if so, Jay Farrar and Son Volt playing at the Bluebird Theatre here in Denver Wednesday night. Should be a great show!
July 7th, 20094:46 pm
July 7th, 2009
I’d like to see that too. Maybe we can get Phil Wellman to make a cameo in that would-be episode?
Man I just burst out laughing…..great post…by ahem…Bobby’s Cox…hahaha
Hmmm…a rosin-bag grenade could stop any would-be attacker in his tracks, Bobby’s. I like it.
Pennski– I did not say I wanted to trade them. All I am saying is that I think Vazquez, Juerggens, Hanson, Hudson, and indeed Medlen are better values for the Braves to keep. There is a cost-benefit analysis to this perspective.
July 7th, 20094:47 pm
Matt may have had a tough night (yes he can look bad even from pitch to pitch) but his track record is proven that if he gets ABs he will produce positive results.
What track record, LOL? Hey, there’s no doubt that Diaz should be starting instead of Francoeur, but let’s not get carried away. So far, Diaz’s “track record” is that he hasn’t done as well when given a regular’s appearances. Some of the swings last night to which you alluded might be the reason, ya think?
Arkansas Braves fan
O’ Brien, are u serious? got money on this thing!
July 7th, 20094:48 pm
I’d like to see Wellman sing that old Beatles tune, “While My Francoeur Gently Weeps.” A touching moment that would be, what with Frenchy boo-hooing throughout.
oh great lol when DOB said THIS JUST IN, i thought of a trade, and then dempster heads to the dl, while big zambrano comes in… when does the torture end… chris
hmm…I would venture to say the very last game of the season…
Piedmont Blues (ex-BFIR)
The Braves and the Nats will not be duking it out for last place. (Have you seen the Nats’ record?) But I can see this club stumbling around at slightly below .500 for a long time, yes.
I did see it. I was a little disappointed with it. Maybe it’s because I was expecting it to be fall-on-the-floor hilarious. I did like that he thinks his teammates should know that he could probably beat them up.
I bet his Tommy Hanson questions are similar to what McCann had to go through with Francoeur, too.
July 7th, 20094:49 pm
You are right, you didn’t say that, my fault, but I still think that’s a crazy idea to trade those two guys. vasquez is the most preferred person on our team to trade b/c he only is on the books for a few more years and he has been the best on the staff this year, for the most part. I wouldn’t trade two guys that we just signed, why would any FA want to sign w/ us then if you can get traded in less than 1 season?
July 7th, 20094:50 pm
I’m not worried about being “ripped” by people who believe in something that does not exist. Do the guys “ripping” me really believe that I’m going to say “ok, you guys are right, god does exist”, lol. Whatever. I was told a long time ago that there is no “reasoning” with a believer in god. So I try to refrain from engaging in a discussion about religion with people who cant be reasoned with.
Despite what many of you believe, the Braves season is “far from over with”. We are only 5 games out, despite Chipper and McCann not hitting well right now. When they bust out of it, then you’ll see the Braves go on a run.
Looks like Kevin Hart will be recalled from AAA to pitch against us tomorrow. He was just sent down to make room for Aramis Ramirez and he had been pitching out of the bullpen.
it sounds like Wren has conceded the season when he says he doesn’t see them adding any significant payroll.
Oh well, so much for 2009.
All of you people whining about Wren saying he could not (or would not) add payroll, are forgetting what that actually means.
Vazquez is making 11.5 million this year. He could be traded for a bat that helps now, and prospects to help in the future, and payrol (gasp!) might actually go down, opening the door for other trades.
Besides. If guys like Hanson, Heyward and Freeman are “off-limits”, who the hell do we have left to trade, that could net us a batter (or anybody) that can actually help, of have an “impact”?
The only LOGICAL explanation is that Vazquez will be moved. ESPECIALLY if we’re out of it.
Matt Diaz vs LHP = Kimbo Slice
Matt Diaz vs RHP = Richard Simmons
TN Jeff – yes and that is what peeves me and the fact that it is the way we lose rather than just losing that does my head in
We lose games on silly mental fielding errors (drop the ball, double clutch) or not getting simple runs in with 0,1 out and runners on 2nd/3rd
or we start well and the A class bullpen wacks out for the night and chokes
or we send the B class bullpen out with a 2-0 or 3-0 line and suddenly we have to scramble to win 6-5
We are mediocre and have lost our soul as it were………… even in 2005 when we looked good and killed teams we still put the knife in and battled… now we just limp wristedly throw in the towel
I say get rid of the RF ( we will never win with him in the lineup) and go and get some gamers like more BMACS, Prado’s and MattyD’s
July 7th, 20094:51 pm
Zambrano will be on three days rest.
Lunatic – I’m sad that you thought I was serious. Its called sarcasm. I thought I was good at it.
Zambrano? Sweet! Maybe we’ll see some crazy, at least.
Yeah.. Paul ..Steve etal and DOB
Braves are going down….and what…who..NATS are up !!!!
wonder what’s going to happen after the break ??!!!
Paul Lentz–I repeat:
July 7th, 20094:52 pm
Most of us have learned the hard way that written words, such as emails and quotes, lose much of their meaning because the tone, non-verbal, context, and a lot of other cues are not there.
I would bet that if any of us interviewed JF in person and covered the same issues, we would come away with a very different impression than most of the angry responses here. I seriously doubt that CR or DOB would agree that JF is anywhere near the jerk that the quotes, typed out from a longer conversation and context-free, could be read to convey.
It is amazing how the baseball “know nothings” on this blog have decided that the Braves big problem is Francoeur. Are you aware that he and your hero McCann have the same number of RBI? Why not trade McCann? Since his BA is over 300, this means in the vernacular of those who ever played the game ( I don’t mean LL, HS, or college)that McCann is a “cripple shooter”…he gets hits when it doesn’t matter. And considering Chipper had a gaudy average last year and won a batting title but only drove in 75 runs, could the same be said for him? These Braves have problems up and down the lineup…they are a very inconsistent group of hitters. It just could be that Chipper has influenced a lot of them to be “guess” hitters like he is….works for some guys, but doesn’t work at all for others.
July 7th, 20094:53 pm
Let’s see, I have a documented IQ of 141 (”gifted,” but just short of “genius” by most IQ classifications) have taught open anterior, posterior, lateral, endoscopic and microscopic approaches to neurologic and spinal surgery, and I was born in a small house to a large family on Ormond Street just a stone’s throw from Turner Field. Yes, I’m a true “southerner” and most proud of this honor and distinction.
The person regarded by most with having the highest recorded IQ in the world today, Chris Langan, whose IQ is estimated between 190-210 (Einstein had an IQ of 146, as a comparison)believes beyond a shadow of any doubt that not only is there a God, a creator, or supreme being, but he can in fact prove this “scientifically.” I too believe there both are and have to be a God and that science, evolution, and creation are not mutually exclusive.
So, now here’s the answer: there are people that are smart, people that think they’re smart and people that are not smart,
And here’s the question, Mr. Paul Lentz: which of these three are you?
I’m supremely confident that if the smartest man in the world believes there’s a God, the first of the three answers for you is eliminated.
ugh, and chipper is out of the lineup, worse and worse and worse…..lol
DOB, you march right in Bobby’s office and tell him this blog is PISSED at that lineup!
Francoeur rf(Pepe LePeu)
Let the Jeff Francouer debacle begin….
Don’t forget that sunscreen! Wayne
I forgot to put it on my face. But, now I have rosy cheeks. I’m a little surprised my nose and forehead aren’t burnt to a crisp. Not complaining, though…
Hey, you could always just ride over to San Diego, watch the Braves, and soak up a little sun. My best friend is going to the San Diego series…lucky duck. I want to go to an away game…
July 7th, 20094:54 pm
See? Just to piss me off go 4-4 tonight and get his starting spot back but finish the month of July with 4 for 70.
Maybe the bees fly in from the right in Chicago.
Jeff is in the line-up tonight? I think I’m going to have to do take this into my own hands!!!!!
July 7th, 20094:55 pm
Paul – if you are that insensitive that you continue to hold your line on what is a family baseball blog then you will never learn
sometimes best to hold one’s biggoted tongue then to get “tar and feathered” yes …
“Well alrighty then”
Dense Paul Lentz,
“Do the guys “ripping” me really believe that I’m going to say “ok, you guys are right, god does exist”, lol. Whatever.”
No Paul, not at all. We just want you to go away, you Coxsucker!
RHR you’re hilarious. Your 4:54 is gonna make me get in trouble at work.
uh oh. I feel a barrage of posts about to issue forth, all laden with “RBI” and “context”, LOL.
July 7th, 20094:56 pm
why oh why is Francoeur in the lineup? That 3 game stretch will teach him to stop sucking!!!! Right.
Ugly line up
spectator, when you decide to NOT use RBI as the deciding factor as if a player is good or not, get back to us.
If guys like Hanson, Heyward and Freeman are “off-limits”, who the hell do we have left to trade, that could net us a batter (or anybody) that can actually help, of have an “impact”? N8
I have it on good authority that the Cardinals offered Albert Pujols for Riaan Spanjer-Furstenburg, but obviously the Braves turned that down.
July 7th, 20094:57 pm
Paul Lentz= The Goo of this blog.
Not surprising Chip is out, didnt he have a bunch of knee problems relatively young? Anyway he sure was moving gingerly around yesterday. Jeff is never going to produce for the Braves, what is it going to take for Cox or whoever to just release him or trade him. He may very well do good somewhere else. He is an automatic out and a direct reason why we are 4 games under .500. I am disgusted with the Braves coaching/management.
Tonight’s line-up is brutal to say the least. Diaz goes 0-fer last night and it is JF time again?
“Most of us have learned the hard way that written words, such as emails and quotes, lose much of their meaning because the tone, non-verbal, context, and a lot of other cues are not there.”
Yes, because phrases like “I feel betrayed by the braves” and “I don’t like it, but I don’t make out the lineup” are totally open for interpretation. Tone makes all the difference in the world, right?
July 7th, 20094:58 pm
dogsbrekky – if you can get something for them, even some prospects, you can rare up for another go round next year or in 2011. Time to rebuild for next year and beyond. Let’s train wreck the rest of the year but get some guys who can help us starting next year.
And Larry, nobody cares about your BS either. IQ? Are you serious? Success is measured in money and honeys in my book. And I never even had my IQ tested!
Steve from OH,
Just ignore Mr. Lentz. He’s like a little kid with attention. Give him an inch he’ll take a mile.
Zambrano tonight? Boosh!
July 7th, 20094:59 pm
The lineup is Chipper-less. And punch-less. And tooth-less. And love-less.
GA batting third. Did Bobby tire of him killing rallies in the second inning and wanted to try him at killing rallies in the first inning? (Prado has played very well of late. I hope he can keep it up. Not very sure of that, but I hope he can. Does anyone realize Prado is the team leader in doubles? But GA? That .279 average is a mystery, and I don’t think he can keep that up. Do you also realize he’s walked 10 times? 10! David Ross, in less than half the at-bats, has 14. And even Jordan Schafer had 27 BBs before exiting stage left. That, and GA’s defensive skills are deteriorating rapidly.)
beekay…………I think that your posting at 4:37pm broke my record for length. The nerve, lol.
McLouth of the South……….I’ll bite. How does “prayer” work? What is the purpose of “prayer”? Are longer “prayers” more effective than shorter ones? Or does god weigh how eloquent a “prayer” is? What determines whether god answers a “prayer”? If a person “prays” and god answers it, then I’ve heard people say “god is good”. If god doesnt answer a “prayer”, then people will say “it wasnt in god’s will”. So if something was in “god’s will” yet a person didnt pray for it, does that mean that god will “change his will”? If something wasnt in “god’s will” and a person prays for it, what determines if god will change his mind? People say “have faith”, but what exactly does that mean? I feel that these are valid questions concerning “prayer”. To me, it seems that it doesnt matter whether a person “prays” or not. What is going to happen, is going to happen whether a person “prays” or not.
WOW.. Larry ..are you smart or what !!! Smart A..!!?? anyway..
Paul has fun…
But anyway…Braves need to liven up..or they’re out..!!??
July 7th, 20095:00 pm
That was one of the best funniest page I ever seens ever.
Conrad is in there. I like this kid.
July 7th, 20095:01 pm
Kimbo Slice is horrible.
Success is measured in money and honeys in my book. McLouth of the South
That’s an interesting philosophy.
July 7th, 20095:02 pm
That lineup will be lucky to get a freakin hit tonight. What a joke. Is it time for the Falcons yet?
Paul, do my posts sound like a devout Christian to you? I don’t give a damn whay you or anybody else believes. Just get the hell away! Nobody likes your BS, your long-winded posts, your calling everyone “MORONS” when you clearly qualify in your own right. I am DONE now. Just go the hell away!!!
July 7th, 20095:03 pm
Just in…Chipper’s out of the lineup due to an ingrown knee hair!
Really now, how hard is it to get up every day at mid morning, eat, go to the park, eat, warm up before a game, filed maybe 3-4 balls and throw to first during a game, and walk out to the batter’s box and swing a bat 4-5 times a game, eat, and then retire for the evening in a luxury hotel?
Never have I seen such a well conditioned athlete as Chipper Jones miss so many games for the greatest assortment of reasons on earth, and especially when his team needs him the most!
Let’s please trade this unreliable, hypochondriac to someone, anyone, and get some players in here that actually want to earn their millions.
And, to boot, old Bobby has reinserted the King of Hacks, Mr. Francoeur!
Chipper has to rest sometimes, you guys. He’s an old man now.
July 7th, 20095:04 pm
Maybe if you never missed a 400 plus days(games) of work, started to struggle, and then got demoted in a meeting in the equipment room after the game you wouldn’t be the happiest guy either. I really wish the braves would do something so everyone would realize how flawed we really are even without JF (as we have seen in the last three games).
Oh and the guy that looked like JF at the plate last night(aggressive swings early, double play balls), he’s in the 3 hole tonight. Goooooo Braves!
Here’s to Francoeur getting a couple hits tonight…Im calling a long-bomb…
N8 makes a very good, common-sense driven point about payroll.
Plus, Wren also said something about looking at each deal on a case-by-case basis.
That said, I don’t think that “payroll” is really the Braves biggest issue.
Misallocation of funds, though, may be.
Success is measured in money and honeys in my book.
Well, I’ve got $14 in my pocket and two bottles of honey in my fridge. [Borat voice] Very nice!
July 7th, 20095:05 pm
spectator – I chortled so hard I kicked my dog from 5 feet
Please read anything of value in terms of valuing MLB talent and you will see where Mr Frenchy rates versus McCann and Chipper
1. One of the players rates in the bottom 10 worst regular starters in MLB since mid 2007
2. One rates as the best hitting catcher since 2006 and
3. One has the 2nd best OPS in MLB since 2007
I know what you mean…Matt Diaz’s is my favorite so far…Nate’s, Timmy’s, and JJ’s are pretty funny, too…
I did like that he thinks his teammates should know that he could probably beat them up.
Yeah, that was good…maybe he should prove it…
Probably. That would be annoying.
Thanks for the lineup, Chief.
Ya know, sometimes when guys are struggling Bobby moves them down in the order…
What about a trade btw Blue Jays and Braves
To Jays: Vasquez, Frenchy, Escobar
To Braves: Holladay, Scutaro, Rios
July 7th, 20095:06 pm
Is it time for the Falcons yet?
No, but I’m sure there’s a summer junior-cheerleading camp you could go watch to pass the time.
July 7th, 20095:07 pm
Dude, hope you know more about surgery than baseball. Your IQ slipped a few points, there, I guess.
God D**n. Why does he keep trotting Francoeur out there? Why on Gods green earth? Why? He was so close to completing the break-up. Bobby its always easiest with a clean break. Just turn your back and walk away man.
Cheese, why on earth would the jays take that trade? and didn’t you hear the Braves can’t take on payroll, which is what they would be doing w/ that. come on man, use your head.
July 7th, 20095:08 pm
All we need is one power hitter. My mind continually comes to Adam Dunn? What do you think our chance of landing him are considering his salary? I would hate to lose Vazquez but his salary being gone might offset taking on Dunn’s salary?
On a side note, I presume there is no way we are going to see Freeman or Heyward in the ATL anytime soon are we?
Coach (Moon Pie, Anyone?)
swap vazquez for hanson and JP might not hang up on you immediately, cheese. no way they trade away halladay just to add vazquez.
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