3:47 pm July 7, 2009, by David O'Brien
Coach (Moon Pie, Anyone)
July 8th, 20091:34 am
Last game of the evening is over. Rangers 8 Angel’s 5. Juan Rivera just went deep for his second HR of the game before the final out was recorded.
Why didn’t we sign this guy?
July 8th, 20091:35 am
Heath, I have always thought the Brewers lined up well with a trade for Javy. My other two guesses have to be Minnesota and the Dodgers.
All three teams can use Javy and they all have an extra outfielder or two.
On a side note, I know Freeman is “untouchable” but I dont think he is completely untouchable (like Heyward). If the right deal comes along, I can see Wren using him to get not one impact player, but maybe two.
July 8th, 20091:38 am
nolie: who cares abt your barber
July 8th, 20091:47 am
nolie: who cares abt your barber (Bravofan)
I see that light witty banter is your specialty BF.
If you don’t care why bother to post about it. I think you really do care, and in fact are extremely jealous that you don’t have a baseball loving barber who comes to your house to cut your hair.
Thats ok dude, even though such jealousy is one of the 7 deadly sins, I forgive you; but you might want to brush up on your repartee. Just saying
July 8th, 20091:51 am
I need a haircut.
You’re probably right to be afraid. I made some dolphin friends, too. So you wouldn’t be safe anywhere…
Just imagine McFann meeting Clint Hurdle in a dark alley…
July 8th, 20091:54 am
you are sadly mistaken abt me being jealous of you my friend that is terrible that you would even fool yourself into thinking that come back down to planet earth pleasee
July 8th, 20092:00 am
you are sadly mistaken abt me being jealous of (BF)
you see…you replied again. You must indeed be smitten by the subject and my facile wit. And don’t feel bad about being envious, most anyone would be. In fact, if you are a real good poster and make a lot of baseball sense, I’ll invite you down for a haircut and you will be the belle of the board. I so love this witty badinage.
July 8th, 20092:01 am
I do not know what to think anymore of moronic people out there that come up with these foolish trade ideas and how they would run the team
July 8th, 20092:03 am
Well Im going to be the bigger and more mature person and just end this conversation with you right now since I know I’m correct
July 8th, 20092:05 am
Would your hair guy be willing to fly out my way? I could use a cut
July 8th, 20092:10 am
I do not know what to think about your grammar.
July 8th, 20092:12 am
Mitchie-san, I don’t see the Brewers as trade partners at all. They have three solid outfielders in Braun, Hart and Cameron. Outside of these three, the Brewers have nothing to offer by way of improving the Braves outfield. Milwaukee is not about to break up their outfield.
They do have a superb SS prospect in Alcides Escobar but I think our SS is doing OK at the moment, don’t you?
July 8th, 20092:14 am
since I know I’m correct (BF)
correct about what? Foolish trade ideas? I agree, most of them are beyond foolish.
Anything else you are correct about? Couple more and you just might get train tickets to get your hair cut. Wouldn’t you ne the cat’s pajamas and the bee’s knees then? I know you want it !
July 8th, 20092:16 am
he only charges $12.00 here, not sure what it would cost out there after expenses. I know things are dear out there, but in this case local talent might be the way for you to go.
July 8th, 20092:17 am
gotta be careful which dolphins you make friends, some like the Miami branch of the family are pretty worthless.
July 8th, 20092:18 am
No matter ones opinion as to the direction of this team, one fact remains. We have now witnessed 245 straight games of sub .500 baseball (2008 and 2009). Expecting this streak to end over the course of the remaining 79 games of 2009 is foolish at best and insane at worst.
July 8th, 20092:19 am
If I could find someone that would come to my house…or only charged $12
July 8th, 20092:20 am
At the start of tonight`s game, you could just sense it. The Cub fans were in their seats on time, as they always are. They were on a roll. They had humiliated us the night before, and they were ready to do the same tonight. Their favorite pitcher, Zambrano, was starting. Derek Lee is as hot as he`s ever been, and Ramirez is back at 3B. They were all in Wrigley Field midseason form. From the CF camera you could see over half of them had full or nearly full tall boy beers, and they thought this was their night. NOT TO BE. Our #1 pithcher chewed `em up and spit `em out. Javy, you made us proud. You could tell in the post game, Brian McCann knew he had witnessed on hell of a pitching performance. Somebody had to step up, and you certainly did. You took the party out of that Wrigley Field crowd. Have a tall beer on us. You earned it.
July 8th, 20092:23 am
Miami Dolphins…good one.
Coach, I can see them letting Cameron go in the right deal. Now, would I trade Vasquez for him? Uhh…no. There would have to be alot more going on in that trade.
July 8th, 20092:28 am
So, Vazquez has another 7 innings, 1 earned run performance and people are that much more dialed up about trading him? God, I love this place.
July 8th, 20092:30 am
Javy had a year like this one in 2003. 230.2IP, 241 Ks and an ERA+ of 139.Even then he was only one game over .500. He’s pitched for some mediocre teams, no doubt.
It’s 130 right now. If you look through his stats, when he keeps his WHIP in control, his ERA+ is very good. Other years he struggles with his control some and his ERA+ ain’t as hot.
July 8th, 20092:44 am
Folks, even if we traded away Javy for Barry Bonds of 2005, we can’t ride Derek Lowe and JJ to the playoffs. Hanson is a rookie and can’t be asked to contribute significantly. WE NEED VAZQUEZ. You can’t win in the playoffs without pitching. Ask the Cubs. If Wren wants to trade away a prospect or two and throw in Kelly and Medlen, I am all for it. Get a .270 22 HR type guy who is simply NOT the automatic out Frenchy is, and hope for the best.
July 8th, 20092:55 am
“So, Vazquez has another 7 innings, 1 earned run performance and people are that much more dialed up about trading him? God, I love this place.”
Nobody WANTS Vasquez gone, its just an option. The Braves have had trouble scoring runs or have you not noticed? Look at Vasquez’s record, look at Jair’s. It pretty common knowledge that they would be alot better if they had run support. Who gives a crap if a guy can take the team in to the 7 inning and beyond if the guys playing behind him can barely muster a run or two. Vasquez is the best pitcher we have, but he is being wasted on this team.
Lets face it, the Braves are slowly shifting into a rebuilding mode whether we like it or not. And just like we said earlier, Vasquez does not fit into the Nationals long term plans and he doesnt fit into ours. Frank Wren traded for him with the plan to win the division THIS year and hopefully next year. Well I hate to be so pessimistic, but we dont have a very good chance of winning this year with our anemic offence.
It makes perfect sense to trade Vasquez. If you are very strong in one area (i.e. pitching) and very weak in another (i.e. hitting) you have to adjust the two to be a well balanced team. Right now the Braves are not a well balanced team. If he could be traded to help in one area while not destroying another, its not a stupid move, its a smart one.
July 8th, 20093:20 am
Agreed Mitchie-san. Well said.
No one hates to trade good quality starting pitching more than me. But with a projectable rotation of Hudson, Hanson, Jurrjens, Lowe and Kawakami…….our starting pitching should be just fine without Vazquez.
We are the team dealing from an area of strength. Pitching is the most valuable commodity in baseball and Frank Wren should be able to steal the damn farm in return.
July 8th, 20093:32 am
I am going to say this now: Tim Hudson will be a 13-13 4.60 ERA type guy for the next 2 years–at best. Why does everyone on here keep penciling him in for a solid year in 2010? He was VERY average the last couple years before he got hurt. I just don’t understand the logic here. His salary is in the neighborhood of Vazquez’s. Get rid of Huddy.
July 8th, 20093:43 am
I’m not even gonna respond to the mindless drivel posted at 3:32……On second thought. Hey dude, keep it up, your brain might actually catch fire one day.
July 8th, 20093:48 am
Get rid of Huddy? For what? Nothing? Who would trade for a guy coming off TJ surgery? Or do you mean we should just release him and eat his contract? Really? The Braves can afford that?
July 8th, 20093:57 am
Thanks Coach. Again I dont want to trade Vasquez, but I think the Braves almost have to in order to fix this team. The only other way is dealing the good prospects (Heyward, Freeman…etc) to get what we need, and that aint gonna happen.
Otherwise, we sit and wait (with our fingers crossed) for the prospects to be ready to help at the Major League level, and guess what everyone, that is called rebuilding.
And it could take years.
Good to see you are back!!! Pointing out the Obvious!!!!!!!
One thing I have noticed? Bobby has stopped picking his nose during games!
Now~~ IF he cud figure out how to manage the team? I’m afraid thats beyond him tho
He has Out-Lived his passion! I’m sure he is a Good guy!!!!!
Doesnt have a clue on how to manage a baseball team~ Without Maddox Smoltz Glavine Avery,
He pinch hit Diaz~ The man who leads the league in pinch hitting average? runners 1st and 2nd! NOBODY out!!!!!
He has just gotten to old i guess? Other day he says? gotta go with the hot hand? Then Diaz~ goes 0 fer!
1 game!!! and Francine is back in the lineup!!!!!
Robert~~ Keep lettin these ppl know!!! That Cox has seen his days!! He is the real reason the team is the way it is!!!! HeeeeHaaaaaw!!!
July 8th, 20093:59 am
4got to mention? He had Diaz bunting? of course~ thats obviously the right move!!!!
You guys watch out!!!! You will soon see Tommy Hansen Pinch running!!!!!
Just like he did with Glavine in Glavines 2nd year at “The Show!”
July 8th, 20094:49 am
THIS BRAVES TEAM WILL FINISH IN FOURTH PLACE DAVE THEY ARE NOT ANY GOOD PERIOD YOU CAN GOOGLE THAT WHEN THE METS GET WELL THEY WILL OVERTAKE THIS DIVISION AND I HATE THE METS,CHIPPER NEEDS TO RETIRE PERIOD TO MANY AKES AND PAIN THE PANZY MY 14 YEAR OLD DAUGHTER HAS CANCER AND SHE NEVER COMPLAINS NO WONDER IBET AGAINST THIS TEAM AND WIN ,YOU IDIOTS THAT WANT ATLANTA TO TRADE VASQUEZ NEED TO JUMP OFF ANY BRIDGE IN GEORGIA BECAUSE YOU DO NOT KNOW TALENT WHEN YOU SEE IT .THE CUBS WILL WIN WEDNESDAY BECAUSE THE BRAVES DONT HAVE VASQUEZ PITCHING.
July 8th, 20095:25 am
I know Francoeur SUCKS and I hope every game that he is not in the lineup but its crazy, the Braves won 5 straight, all with Francoeur playing. He gets benched 3 games, and they lose all 3. Francoeur is back tonight, and they win?
July 8th, 20095:26 am
That last post was truly remarkable willieg. You’ve really outdone yourself this time.
TO MANY AKES AND PAIN THE PANZY
What can I say? For those of you keeping count, that’s four errors in seven words. I think you meant to say “too many aches and pains, the pansy.”
On the bright side, if you were trying to write poorly, you were nearly perfect.
MY 14 YEAR OLD DAUGHTER HAS CANCER AND SHE NEVER COMPLAINS
Okay, you’ve clearly proven Chipper is not as tough as a teenage girl with cancer. I hope it was worth it.
How can I put this in terms you can understand?? Let’s see… If you were going to bet on yourself, I’d say the smart money’s on “jerk-face.”
July 8th, 20096:47 am
DOB I am a little crazy, but I keep playing “Hey, Hey My My, My as a back round to all the Micheal Jackson stuff. It just seems to fit. Both Micheal and Elvis were oxidized by fame.
July 8th, 20097:27 am
Serbok, Jurrjens pinch-runs. What’s your point?
July 8th, 20097:40 am
I think Braves fans who are against trading Vasquez have it in their minds that we aren’t going to get anything of quality back. I’m for any trade where we get more back than we give up and I think that is what Frank Wren is trying to do.
Funny why so many of you are so worked up about this. It’s not just about pitching! It is about the difference between what runs you score and what runs you give up. Clearly our offense needs a huge upgrade. With the right trade for one or more guys we could improve dramatically. Now that Cox has FINALLY put in Prado and Diaz–what I’ve been saying all season–we have the makings of a decent offense. Now we need one or more middle of the order threats.
So we give up a few more runs at the end of the season if we score a lot more.
But if we don’t make the trade, oh well. We’ll work on that in the off season. That’s one more thing I said before spring training. I figured this club would be at .500 all season and to just write this season off. Spend all your time watching the young guys develop and look to 2010 or 2011 as the years the Braves will contend.
Bank Walker, Texas Ranger
July 8th, 20097:48 am
Blow it up. Trade anything of value. Lets get younger and lets get some speed. The Braves have to be the slowest team in MLB. Trade Chipper to Boston. Put him on a winner and get one of their arms (Burcholtz sp? or Masterson), trade Javy to Texas, they owe us. Trade anything with the exception of McCann and our young pitchers.
July 8th, 20098:14 am
I won’t address the “trade Vazquez” contingent, except to say YOU’RE CRAZY.
Great to see us play defense with passion.
Was most happy for McFann after last night’s game. Was worried her face was gonna stay red forever. Big Mac moved like a svelte alley-cat. He and Vazquez were definitely the guys who brought home the bacon. Yunel and McLouth were superb also.
July 8th, 20098:29 am
Vazquez was dominating again. That the guy has a 6-7 record is nearly a crime. He should have 10 wins and a shot at the Cy Young.
Strong defense is right, Shamus Thacker. From Kotchman around the horn to Prado. McLouth and Francouer as well.
July 8th, 20098:44 am
Your 14 year old daughter supposedly has cancer, and you’re wasting time on this blog, and on betting? Are you sure you’re not her cancer?
July 8th, 20098:49 am
Question: How many of you say, “LOAF”, everytime Garret Anderson appears on your screen?
Also, anyone else hear the Cubs announcers questioning the Hall of Famer’s use of his bench during the 8th inning last night?
In short, why use Diaz to bunt when A) he’s your best pinch hitter, and to a lesser extent, B) when he’s not a good bunter?
I sat and watched Diaz fail to get a bunt down in an early season game in 2006, and haven’t seen much improvement since.
Oh well, Braves win, so little things like failing to get an insurance run in the 8th shouldn’t matter, right?
July 8th, 20098:50 am
Thanks, Jay. I rarely check the GCL scores because I don’t know anything about any of the players.
Willieg is hilarious. Reading his posts crack me up. I’m still convinced it’s Chop Chop in disguise.
July 8th, 20098:55 am
“With Javier Vazquez, Rafael Soriano and Mike Gonzalez, Wren possesses three pitchers, who could each individually provide a greater return than Teixeira, who was traded to the Angels in exchange for Casey Kotchman and Steven Marek.”
That was from Mark Bowman. Not sure if it was already discussed or posted. With so many teams holding onto their elite prospects now, I’m not so sure a team would be willing to give the Braves what they want for 2 months of a relief pitcher, even with the added bonus of them being Type A free agents. But maybe I’m wrong. Even if the Braves are sellers, I still am not sure if Javy should be traded in season. Like Rosenthal said yesterday, he is the best trade commodity out there, other than Doc. More valuable than Holliday, no doubt.
July 8th, 20099:09 am
Jason McCann, is he heating up? Looked good tonight.
He sure did…hope this is the start of something for him and the team!
I could not find one thing wrong with the game tonight
Me, neither. Would have liked more runs to be scored…but since the Braves won it’s no biggy. Save the runs for when you need them most.
(I could easily take issue with that called third strike on BMac, but I won’t…I could also be cheesed that the ump called him out at first base, but if he wuolda called him safe, the Official Scorer would have found a Cub to charge that an error on. And anyway, it’s not like BMac didn’t drive in two runs…)
Roman Gal You’re probably right to be afraid. I made some dolphin friends, too. So you wouldn’t be safe anywhere…
That’s not a good mental picture…if you like Mr. Hurdle.
Thanks! Yeah, he looked like a completely different player last night–I mean different from this past week and a half to two weeks. He was his old self–loved it! And Vazquez…man, do I like him! Very good D last night as well. Just a great game…
July 8th, 20099:10 am
i would be looking to unload lowe’s contract in exchange for significant offense from dye or dunn rather than trading vaz. better team, and better long term flexibility.
Oh, and the Braves better not trade Vazquez! Don’t even go there, Mr. Wren…
July 8th, 20099:14 am
Whew the bats were hot again last night!!!!
For those that think Matt Diaz can play everyday just remember that last at bat last night(popped up bunt). Worst by a Brave of the series so far.
A Lowe for Dye swap would be incredible. Don’t think the White Sox would do it, though.
Can someone please explain why, if we truly believe the Braves had a shot at the postseason, we would be considering trading arguably our best pitcher – Vazquez?
All the guy’s done is post a sub 3 ERA and is 2nd (or so) in the league in strike-outs! We should be complaining he didn’t make the All-Star team, not trying to trade him!!!
Seems to me the only thing working on this team is pitching and you want to trade it away to fix the offense – just doesn’t make sense to me.
If we REALLY want to make a run at it this year then we need to keep our staff the way it is and use the farm to get some offense.
Let’s trade Vazquez to the Nats so he can shut us out three times in the last 2 months of the season.
July 8th, 20099:16 am
I have no idea why we would trade Javy if the Braves are actually trying to contend. Huddy may well be pretty bad at least through the end of this year, and Javy has been dynamite. Trade anyone but him. But thankfully, I don’t think it will happen.
July 8th, 20099:21 am
PWH – Have you seen that rumored anywhere, or just saying? Cause that would be awesome.
July 8th, 20099:24 am
No, TBrown, just speculation on this board.
NC Braves Fan
So has anyone called Coach out on his repeated “Freight train in June” comments yet? You know, where the schedule was going to be so tough, the Braves would fall out of contention.
The Braves gained a game and a half in the standings from June 1 to July 1.
Granted, they didn’t set the world on fire and the Braves’ flaws are fully on display – but it goes to show that some of you doomsayers need to get a grip on how winnable the NL East is this year.
July 8th, 20099:26 am
PWH – Lowe is ours, for better or for worse. For reasons that you have spelled out previously in decrying his contract.
July 8th, 20099:28 am
Gotcha. At work, guilty of scrolling through and just checking out the regulars (and shorter posts). Back end of that contract is starting to worry me though.
Any thoughts on the Scott Hairston trade? I know the PTBNL could make a difference, but it looks like oakland didn’t give up much. Could have helped in RF without touching the rotation or top prospects.
July 8th, 20099:37 am
With Chipper most likely sitting today, it will be int’resting to see who catches.
Lowe had a bad month. He still had a 3.40 ERA heading into interleague play. The declining strikeout rate and increasing walk rate are kind of concerning, but we’re still not deep enough into the season to be THAT concerned about it. September comes, and we are still seeing a K rate under 5.00. Okay, then I’ll probably be a little more concerned than I am now….
July 8th, 20099:42 am
I’m okay with Lowe right now, gimme a year or two and it may be different. Fact remains, we did what we had to do to get him. Also, very well stated earlier, he’s ours. For better or worse.
The K’s don’t concern me as much as the career-low gb% and career-high ld%. The K’s do concern me, though. I think he’ll get it figured out.
July 8th, 20099:44 am
Just watched the replay of BMac’s RBI double from last night–see, he didn’t try to pull that pitch! He’s been pull-happy lately, and that’s been a big part of the problem. But last night he just went back to what works…and I hope he cann keep doing that.
18 Wheels of Love
July 8th, 20099:45 am
If we traded Derek Lowe this year, as many of you suggest, you could kiss EVER getting any decent free agent for a long while. Everyone would want a no trade clause. Lowe ain’t going nowheres.
July 8th, 20099:46 am
Everyone says we did what we had to do to get Lowe. I’m not buying it. The next highest bidder was 3/36. If we had taken the time to properly negotiate and not thrown a gross overpayment out there with a clock on it in an attempt to cover up the Smoltz departure, we probably could’ve had him for 3/45 or 4/48.
July 8th, 20099:50 am
“Folks, even if we traded away Javy for Barry Bonds of 2005, we can’t ride Derek Lowe and JJ to the playoffs. Hanson is a rookie and can’t be asked to contribute significantly. WE NEED VAZQUEZ. You can’t win in the playoffs without pitching.”
great point, well not really….we are a sub .500 team and have been for the last 3 years. We need to be focused on next year and the year after. We need prospects and we need to quit being delusional about our chances of making the playoffs. Trade Vasquez for MLB ready prospects, his value is sky high right now and cant possibly be higher. It free’s up $11.5 mil that we can use to look for a bat this offseason. Huddy, Lowe, JJ, Hanson, Kawakami is a solid rotation for next season, but we need to get an offense behind them. We cant continue trading away our prospects thinking we have an outside shot at the postseason. Thats why we have no one who can really step in to help out right now. These past 4 for 1 and 3 for 1 trades have killed us and we’ve never really improved from them. We’ve won 14 out of 31 games since we traded 3 solid guys for McLouth. We’ve also only got one starting pitcher with a winning record and its Hanson.
July 8th, 20099:52 am
Ross will catch today and why not? He’s got the highest slug% on the team, he’s better defensively and throws better than Mac, and mac needs the day off
July 8th, 20099:53 am
PWH – I’m not so sure about that when it comes to Lowe. The Mets were/are constructed to win now (injuries have derailed them) … the Braves are a lot more uncertain proposition for a free agent who wants a ring.
I think the Braves had to overpay to get DLowe to sign, kind of like the Nats had to overpay to get Adam Dunn.
I am not trading Vazquez for anything short of Adrian Gonzales or a package of VMART and Sizemore
and niether of those are happening
To help trade for and sign a bat, I would ask Vazquez to re-structure and extend his deal
Maybe ask him to take 9 mil this season and 9 mil next season (instead of 11.5 which saves us 5 mil) and 10.5 mil a year for two more extended years………
They are saying he likes it here and would like to stay so that would help the Braves and Vazquez
what do you think?
July 8th, 20099:55 am
The Oakland A’s DFA’d starting pitcher Dana Eveland. I think that would be a nice pickup for us, you can never have too many young arms. Lets get it done.
July 8th, 20099:58 am
Andruw has 13 RBI in his past nine games — one fewer than he had in his entire 2008 season with the Dodgers (75 games, 238 at-bats).
Keeping It Real
July 8th, 200910:01 am
Could someone explain why the Braves would trade any of their best players for players from another team that are not as good or cannot fill a need. I am specifically talking about Escobar and Vazquez? Is the purpose to dump salary, avoid arbitration, avoid free agency, avoid option year payouts, avoid bonuses, eliminate minorities, or WHAT??? I just don’t get it.
McCann, given the fact that it’s a day game after a night game, and McCann will not have the break that other Braves have coming up next week (since he’s playing in the All-Star Game, obviously), and given Ross’ impressive performance so far this season, I’d be surprised if Ross isn’t playing today.
July 8th, 200910:02 am
Rocky Bridges, infielder: “I know what the word ‘media’ means. It’s plural for ‘medio-cre.’”
More humorous quotes in this article from The Toronto Star:
July 8th, 200910:03 am
Did you catch BMac throws yesterday and Monday?
Anyway, yeah, I bet Ross plays today. Don’t have a problem with that…
Sounds to me like the Braves need to trade hitting coaches with Texas and keep our current roster.
July 8th, 200910:04 am
With Chipper out today too Mac needs to play.
July 8th, 200910:05 am
Andruw also has four homers in those past nine games — one more than he hit in all of 2008 for the Dodgers.
Of course, not all has changed: He’s hit .216 (8-for-37) with 10 K and 3 walks in that nine-game span. Still, four homers and 13 RBI in nine games for a guy who had three homers and 14 RBI (and a .158 average and .256 OBP) in 2008.
July 8th, 200910:06 am
I was thinking the same DOB
you think the Braves are regretting not bringing Andruw back????????
he has 11 homeruns and 30+ rbi in only 155 at bats in 45 games!!!!!!
he even played 1st base last night
so if you doubled his games played, he would likely have 15-20 homeruns and 45-55 rbi
I think maybe just maybe the Braves could have used that kind of power from the outfield and for basically the league minimum!
Think we could maybe trade for AJ and David Murphy?
The Rangeres need a 1st baseman, send them Kotchman, Medlen, Frenchy, and prospect
get AJ and Murphy
call up Canazaries to play first
plenty of more power in the lineup
what do you think DOB???
I don’t think Wren will put a “For Sale” sign on Vazquez. GMs from contending teams will come to him with inquiries or offers. And, of course, Wren will listen, as he should.
If a GM proposes a “knock-your-socks-off” deal, then Wren would be foolish not to grab it. But short of that, I think he stands pat.
July 8th, 200910:07 am
sort of an under the radar trade there
With the trade deadline approaching in a few wekks, it seems the rule of reason is being thrown aside by the denizens of this here blog. Because, my prediction is that Wren will do nothing, except for maybe trading one of our two closers. My guess, in fact, is that it is far more likely that vazquez will be around next season, then it is Cox will be.
Look at Wren’s business circumstances. He runs a team whose owners want to sell it, at a profit. They need a product that looks good, seems to have a future of decent revenues, and appears to be run by people who take a long view. But Wren also does not want to “blow the team up”, either. He built much of the current version of the team — he’s got a lot invested in a pitcher heavy team being the future of the Braves.
Wren built his team, and made his trades as much for 2010 as he did for 2009. (more so, in fact.) To compete in 2010, Wren probably will need to go buy a free agent with the big bat. There’s an easy way to save 12 million for that. Don’t exercise Hudson’s option. And, wouldn’t non-tendering Frenchy save us his money as well?
Wren can surprise — but I don’t see Vazquez going. His 11 million is a far better investment than 12 million with a guy who is, remember, coming off of surgery.
July 8th, 200910:08 am
Coach Smith… More than likely management regrets packing off Anderson to the Tigers. But hindsight is 20-20. Most anyone would have gone with Schafer over Anderson at the close of spring training.
“I am not trading Vazquez for anything short of Adrian Gonzales or a package of VMART and Sizemore” (coach smith)
Well, actually, you’re not making any trades. Because you don’t work for the Braves FO.
Ordinarily I’d agree with you, but like Chief said, DGANG, BMac won’t get the ASB off…and Ross is pretty good.
Now, if we still had Corky or Pratt…
July 8th, 200910:09 am
Is Matt going to be back in there today? If so, who will be other corner guy?
Tough task for Hanson tomorrow in Denver: Aaron Cook is 5-0 with a 1.98 ERA in his past six starts.
Should have said, “Good point, I agree.” in my 10:08…
July 8th, 200910:10 am
Cox will be here another few years get used to it
Alonzo… solid post. Good insight.
Aaron Cook? Crikey…
July 8th, 200910:11 am
thanks for the update
just trying to make a point about Vazquez’s value but there is always a smart @ZZ in the group
Of course, Hanson is 4-0 with a 0.90 ERA in his past five starts….
McLouth of the South
July 8th, 200910:12 am
Don’t know why this came to mind, but would Lowe for Pierre make sense? I assume that two untradeables could be traded for each other right? Then McLouth could bat cleanup. Crazy?
The Hanson/Cook match up will be great. Hanson’s a real competitor; the sort of guy that wants to rise to the occasion.
July 8th, 200910:13 am
McLouth of the South
Pierre does NOTHING to solve the Braves’ power problem
July 8th, 200910:15 am
NC Braves Fan
While technically you are right that the Braves actually picked up games in the standings during June, you can’t claim total victory. The Braves were 11-15 in June and if the Phils, who were also 11-15, had been playing even decent baseball the Braves would be 4-5 more games out of first…so I wouldn’t be bragging too much.
July 8th, 200910:16 am
Let’s hope that Hanson’s filthy breaking stuff still bites well in the thin air of Denver.
July 8th, 200910:17 am
I think the Angels are in need of a DH.Do the Braves have an ex Angel on the team that might they might want back?Trading GA and Gonzo to the Angels might bring a good return.You are not going to resign Gonzo and the Angels are looking for bullpen help.I wish we could get their manager,but that’s truely fantasy land.
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