Braves at (un)Friendly Confines

 

  Chicago – We’re back on the case here in Chicago, where the weather’s beautiful (mid-70s, sunny, dry) and the Braves had best play with a sense of urgency. Because the Cubs are.
  The Braves obviously need to get back on track after their lost weekend in D.C., if they hope to go to the All-Star break with a positive outlook and the NL Least frontrunners a few games ahead of them instead of a half-dozen games.
  The tenuous nature of these Braves’ claim to being a contender was apparent in Washington, where the Nationals beat them Saturday and Sunday when the pitching the Braves rely on so heavily had a few bad innings at the worst times.

Wrigley's where Escobar debuted in '07

Wrigley's where Escobar debuted in '07

  Now the Braves go from playing the worst team in the NL, a Nationals team already out of playoff contention, to playing a Cubs team squarely in the NL Central race and excited about getting back third baseman Aramis Ramirez.
  He’s been out since May 8, and the Cubs managed to stay just 2-1/2 games behind the division-leading Cardinals without him. That’s the same position they were in when he separated his shoulder and went on the DL, 2-1/2 games out of first.
  That’s pretty impressive. Just imagine if the Braves went nearly two months without Brian McCann or Chipper Jones. Do you think they’d not fall any farther back in the standings?
  Anyway, Ramirez is scheduled to return tonight, just in time to face the Braves, a team he’s hit better against than he has any other team in the NL. He’s got a .355 average, 10 homers and a 1.008 OPS in 48 games against the Bravos.
  Between Aramis and Afonso (Soriano), the Braves face a couple of guys who’ve raked against them like they have against almost no others. Soriano has hit .342 with 16 homers, 35 RBI and a 1.122 OPS in 38 games against the Braves, including seven homers in his past 13 games against them.
  Soriano has hit against all 30 major league teams, and his .727 slugging percentage against the Braves is his highest against any of them. Yikes.
  Not to mention Derrek Lee, who’s sizzling lately and always likes hitting against the Braves. Lee is 21-for-53 (.396) with three homers against tomorrow’s starter, Javier Vazquez, who struggled against the Cubs throughout his years with the White Sox, and has two wins and a 4.91 ERA in 11 starts at Wrigley. (How ’bout Lee, 15 homers and 50-plus RBI, but no All-Star.)
  The Braves took two of three from the Cubs last month in Atlanta, but have still lost 10 of their past 14 against them, and got swept in a three-game series at Wrigley last June.
  And while the Cubs are a modest 15-15 since the beginning of June, they’ve won seven of their past eight games at the Friendly Confines, and hit 15 homers in those eight games, as the weather’s warmed and the wind’s started to blow out.
  Fly-ball pitchers, or those prone to occasional mistakes up in the zone, beware of this team and this lineup.
  Fortunately for the Braves, they’ve got Jair Jurrjens going tonight. Dude’s given up only six homers in 102-1/3 innings all season. This will not only be his first start at Wrigley, but his first against the Cubs anywhere.
  Of course, he’s facing Randy Wells, who has a 2.24 ERA and who no-hit the Braves for 7-2/3 innings on June 2, until a Chipper Jones single.

 

 ♦ Speaking of Chipper: There aren’t many ballparks where Hoss has struggled, but oddly enough, this is one of them.  Jones, who’s a .310 career hitter with a .408 career OBP, has hit just .203 with a .291 OBP and .367 slugging percentage in 48 games (177 at-bats) at Wrigley.
  Those are his lowest average, OBP and slugging percentage at any ballpark where he’s played more than three games.

 ♦ Hot-hitting duo: The Braves have a couple of sizzling-hot hitters of their own right now, and who’d have thunk it’d be Matt Diaz and Martin Prado? They rank first and third, respectively, in highest averages in the NL over the past 10 days, Diaz at .591 and Prado at .469.
  Diaz has hit .373 (22-for-59) since the beginning of June, including 13-for-21 (.619) with three doubles, a homer and five RBI in his past six games. He’s got a streak of five consecutive multi-hit games going since the second game of the Phillies series, including two three-hit games and three two-hit games.
  Prado’s been even hotter. He’s got a stunning .421 average (32-for-76) with 11 doubles and two homers in his past 23 games, with a 1.115 OPS in that span.
  And in his past six games, since the opener of the Phillies series, Prado has hit .577 (15-for-26) with nine extra-base hits and six RBI. That six-game stretch is bookended by a pair of four-hit games, and also included a three-hit game.
  By the way, Prado leads the Braves with a .469 average (15-for-32) in late-and-close situations, while Diaz (.387) is next among Braves with at least 15 at-bats in those situations. Diaz is 12-for-31 in those at-bats.
  And for as great a hitter as is Brian McCann, it’s odd to see how much he’s struggled in late-and-close situations. McCann is 4-for-32 (.125) in those at-bats, his worst since going 4-for-28 as a rookie in 2005.
  Nate McLouth’s gone 5-for-12 with three doubles in late-and-close situations since he was traded to the Braves, and he also leads the Braves with a .412 average (7-for-17) in his limited at-bats with runners in scoring position.
  For the season, their leader — and one of the NL leaders in that category — is Yunel Escobar at a robust .405 in 74 at-bats with runners in scoring position, including six doubles and five homers among his 30 hits in those at-bats.
  Oh, and do you want to guess who is the only Brave with more than one homer in late-and-close situations? No, not Chipper … No, not Mac…. No, not Escobar.
   It’s Garret Anderson, with two homers (and a .294 average) in 34 at-bats in late-and-close situations. Escobar and Diaz lead the team with eight RBI in those situations.

  ♣ Diversions: Saw Public Enemies, the new gangster movie with Johnny Depp playing John Dillinger and Christian Bale playing the FBI special agent pursuing him. Outstanding. Loved every minute of it, and it’s about 2 hours, 20 minutes.
  Also picked up a few new CDs the other day, and I’ve gotta hand it to my man at Decatur CD — the new Wilco (the album) is great. (That’s the name of it, by the way — the album, in parentheses. Clever.) It’s much better than their past two (though he also believes those two were great; I do not).
  And I’m digging the new Patterson Hood solo CD, which is a lot like some recent Drive-By Truckers stuff (not surprising, right?). Strong work by the DBT front man, who had some of the band helping him out on this record.
 Oh, and if there’s a better recent TV commercial than the Travellers insurance one with the dog, the bone, and Ray Lamontagne’s “Trouble” playing, then I don’t know what it is. That things makes me smile from start to finish. Love it.

  Alright, gotta get going, early start (6 p.m.) local time to accommodate ESPN. Gotta get to the ballpark soon.

“DEEPER DOWN” by Wilco (Jeff Tweedy)

By the end of the bout, he was punched out
Fists capsized, muscles shouting
Deeper down
He felt the insult of a kiss

Deeper still than we can go
Further out than triremes row
Drowning slow
His memories persist

Out beyond the telescope’s pry
Up above the tallest Dutch dope high
He realized
This mystery is his

Underneath the ocean floor
A part of who we are don’t explore
I adore
The meaninglessness of the this
We can’t express

By the end of the bout, he was punched out
Fists capsized, muscles shouting
Deeper down
He felt the comfort of a kiss

 

 

2,232 comments Add your comment

Zach Galifinakis

July 6th, 2009
2:17 pm

My brother has ADD, which is weird because he drives a Ford Focus. I told my brother that joke but he didn’t laugh becuase he got distracted by my shoe strings.

jason

July 6th, 2009
2:21 pm

David O’Brien, good to have you back. Carrol was excellent in you absence. Hope you got a good rest. The blog has run amuck while you were out. Is there any new details forthcoming abut possible trades. Now, I don’t want to get you in hot water with the team, but rumors are rampant on the blog with JV and Yunel.

I want to ask your opinion about a possible deal with KC, with Francouer, Acosta , and a pitching prospect for Teahen and Cruz. What do you think with you insider knowledge? I feel as if FW is going to do something suttle to improve the team. I will let you go and get back to work. Thanks.

jason

July 6th, 2009
2:22 pm

Zach Galifinakis, That was freakin funny. We needed that to lighten the mood.

Streaks

July 6th, 2009
2:23 pm

DOB,

What is the Major League record for consecutive games with a double? Prado is at 6 I think. That is pretty amazing in itself.

Bob Dole

July 6th, 2009
2:23 pm

Better take two out of three this weekend, hopefully Prado can stay hot and we can get Chip and BMac going again.

Durhambrave

July 6th, 2009
2:24 pm

Hey DOB,

Since the Best Pic now has 10 nominees, do you think Public Enemies has a chance to be one of them? There is some buzz on some Academy Award blogs saying that it could.

ncscoots

July 6th, 2009
2:27 pm

Would you have rather not had the opportunities at all?

No, I’d rather be the Marlins and won two Championship in less than the amount of time it has take the Braves to win one.

Sure, you would. And that would be you disguised as one of those empty stadium seats during all the other years when they blew chunks, correct?

18 Wheels of Love

July 6th, 2009
2:30 pm

I have yet to get the new Wilco, probably do so tonight, but I’m feeling the itch to buy the CD and not download it for some reason. I’m really not a fan of the last record so I hope this one has more mustard to it. And I too am digging Patterson Hood’s solo album. Kind of a nice filler to get me to the next DBT’s album. And oh by the way, the Austin City Limits DVD comes out tomorrow.

jason

July 6th, 2009
2:31 pm

ncscoots, I just thought a few years back we could have rebuilt while still contending. We let some good prospects go in trades trying to win one more WS. I guess it is all in hindsight.

David O'Brien

July 6th, 2009
2:31 pm

Durhambrave, if there’s 10 nominees for Best Picture, yes it does have a chance, I’d think. Definitely. Maybe even if there were only six, though too early to know that, obviously….

They could’ve used 10 nominees last year, by the way. Good idea to do it.

Shamus Thacker

July 6th, 2009
2:34 pm

DOB, didn’t you mean “FBI” Special agent?

bmacnation.com

July 6th, 2009
2:34 pm

Bob Dole,
You’re spot on. While guys like Diaz and Prado are finding there swings, the backbone of our offense is struggling. I think we’ll have it on all cylinders soon. I hope…

PWHjort

July 6th, 2009
2:34 pm

What’s Patterson’s record called? And did anyone see him play at Athfest?

18 Wheels of Love

July 6th, 2009
2:36 pm

Murdering Oscar is Patterson’s record.

Bobby's Cox

July 6th, 2009
2:36 pm

Streaks,

Not sure what the consecutive doubles streak is, but Chipper holds the major league record with Paul Waner for the most consecutive games with an extra base hit (2B, 3B, HR). That streak is at 14 games. Chipper did it in 2006, and Waner did it in 1927. Prado has a long way to go.

McPoyle

July 6th, 2009
2:38 pm

Going up to the game tonight, leaving work in about 20 to head up there. I’ll be at Goose Island enjoying a Summertime and multiple 312’s before the game. GO Braves!

Cooper S

July 6th, 2009
2:38 pm

Based on a little research with Baseball Reference’s Play Index it appears Derrek Lee holds the record for doubles in consecutive games with 8, set in 2007. And Chipper does, indeed, share the record for consecutive games with an XBH

Andy K.

July 6th, 2009
2:40 pm

Royals get Freel. Now a Frenchy/KC trade is less likely.

glord

July 6th, 2009
2:40 pm

Dave, any rumblings of possible trades? My belief is that the Braves will sit tight for a couple of weeks and see where they stand a week before the deadline and access then. I kind of hope they don’t make a desparate move and then realize they should have been sellers.

RHR

July 6th, 2009
2:41 pm

Christian Bale playing the RBI special agent pursuing him

Heh. Hey you know what, the Braves need a man like Christian Bale. He’s not a Boras client is he?

BravesAreDone

July 6th, 2009
2:41 pm

I saw Patterson at Athfest…it was good but not great…nothing like a full-on Truckers show!!

Shamus Thacker

July 6th, 2009
2:42 pm

Unless the Public Enemies were running from the Roanoke Bureau of Investigation.

McFann Ô

July 6th, 2009
2:43 pm

Thanks for the new Blog, Chief!

And for as great a hitter as is Brian McCann, it’s odd to see how much he’s struggled in late-and-close situations. McCann is 4-for-32 (.125) in those at-bats, his worst since going 4-for-28 as a rookie in 2005.

Ah, man, yeah. That one is bad…it’s like his 1-14 with runners on 1st and 2nd–boggles the mind. And both those stats (along with his overall AVG w/RISP) have taken a huge hit these past couple weeks. Love that guy, but man has he been anti-clutch lately!

RHR

July 6th, 2009
2:43 pm

Can’t we just give Frenchy away? Like a “Free to a good home” deal? I mean, it’s not like we’re going to check and see if it’s really a good home.

TennesseePaul

July 6th, 2009
2:44 pm

DOB: It’s much better than their past two

Are you talking studio albums, A Ghost is Born and Sky Blue Sky or just the Live album and Sky Blue Sky? What difference does it make, they’re all amazing! Another amazing thing Wilco recently released was the first live DVD. Incredible.

So, if this new one is better than the previous, I’m all the more eager to listen as I disagree with the assesment that the previous two albums were no good. Although I wasn’t that impressed with the side project Loose Fur albums. I found them fun in that you can see the metamorphosis which brought Tweedy to Yankee Hotel Foxtrot, but they drag on too much.

hhmmm

July 6th, 2009
2:45 pm

DOB that movie was slow and lacking any real plot …. There was no real story flow at all. There were no real relationships built for any of the characters but you are then left to believe strong ones exist. Nothing but character cameos at best (not even in-depth on Dillinger). Filmed poorly as well. The close up focus on Depp’s face at every possible opportunity made following anything around him almost impossible. We must have seen different movies.

McFann Ô

July 6th, 2009
2:45 pm

Random thought (sorry, Random), but the other day, Bruce was s’posed to be sitting by the entrance to the Braves dugout, and the camera man never panned over there…at least not that I saw.

Anyway, meant to post that after the game on Saturday, but I was too mad and thus forgot.

hhmmm

July 6th, 2009
2:45 pm

No Country for Old Men was better ….

RHR

July 6th, 2009
2:46 pm

Uh oh. McFann dropped the ‘n’ on mann. She is not playing, Heap. You better come corrected tonight.

Coach (2010 or Bust)

July 6th, 2009
2:46 pm

Martin Prado is indeed having the time of his life at the moment. However, I would caution the expectations. Nothing in his minor league career suggests anything other than Prado being a really good utility player with marginal defensive range and very little power. Enjoy his hot streak, it won’t last. I can say the same for Matt Diaz.

All the Escobar trade talk is going nowhere fast. no team can offer any SS in return who can justify trading Yunel.

ESPN tonight. Dear Braves, please don’t embarrass us on national TV.

Necromancer

July 6th, 2009
2:46 pm

Who’s playing RF tonight?

ncscoots

July 6th, 2009
2:47 pm

jason, wouldn’t you think bringing up 18 rookies in one year would constitute “rebuilding”? That all the kids didn’t work out isn’t really relevant to the concept. The fact is that the Braves have infused the team with mostly young players since 2005, and I take that type of thing to be what most call “rebuilding”.

Three non-playoff years is a pretty good indicator that what many here call for so often (”play the kids”) is exactly what they have gotten. However, I don’t hear many of the I-don’t-care-how-bad-they-are crowd actually saying, “I don’t care how bad they are.”

TennesseePaul

July 6th, 2009
2:47 pm

As for the Braves… Nothing like dropping a series to the Nats for sucking the wind out of the sails.

Shamus Thacker

July 6th, 2009
2:47 pm

Hey RHR, I suggested y-day that we trade him for air that Albert Pujols has stood in. I think that’s a doable deal; may as well get something for him….

18 Wheels of Love

July 6th, 2009
2:48 pm

Not a fan of Sky Blue Sky. I liked A Ghost is Born and the Live album, Kicking Television. SBS didn’t mesh with me.

McFann Ô

July 6th, 2009
2:49 pm

RHR

You’re not just kidding…

TennesseePaul

July 6th, 2009
2:50 pm

ncscoots: I take that type of thing to be what most call “rebuilding”

Actually I recall on this blog a key term involved in the defining of “rebuilding.” The term being “blow up.” Apparently a team cannot rebuild by bringing up massive amounts of young talent. The team must also trade away all productive veterans for a mixed bag of fring prospects and bench players.

18 Wheels of Love

July 6th, 2009
2:50 pm

The starting RF’er tonight will be a telling sign IMO.

Chicken farmer

July 6th, 2009
2:50 pm

With all the political correctness talk a couple to three years ago about the “Braves” changing their name, the name “Hens” would be appropriate enough as they are getting used to laying eggs in just about every ball park they visit these days. This past weekend in D.C. was a nest full of eggs!

BravesFanInPA

July 6th, 2009
2:50 pm

Royals just acquired Ryan Freel from the Cubs. He was only with the Cubs for a very short period of time. Could this be a small piece to a larger pie involving a trade with the Braves. Not a huge fan of Freel by the way

Necromancer

July 6th, 2009
2:51 pm

Wow…why can’t we make up ground on these awful teams? Seems like we always get clowned by the crappy teams and do good against the good ones..

can’t figure that one out…

Adam Dunn

July 6th, 2009
2:51 pm

Ok I cant believe I am about to say this but…. I am pretty content with the current lineup the way it is today, right now. garett anderson is playing great and matty d is the man. prado and diaz > french and johnson any day of the week and everyone knows it. Thank god old bobby has finally seen the light… ABSOLUTELY DO NOT trade esco for anything he is our best player!! mccann is up and down (struggled of late) chipper well everyone knows his deal that leaves esco mr 300 hitter with power and clutchness.. if anything go get dunn for french and prospects like someone else said… french medlen gonzo shafer i dunno who but thats really the only deal i would want. replace kotch with dunn

McFann Ô

July 6th, 2009
2:52 pm

Coach ESPN tonight. Dear Braves, please don’t embarrass us on national TV.

They do that a lot, don’t they?

Tomahawkin

July 6th, 2009
2:52 pm

The Braves Deserve To only have one all star…!

If you look at the projected stats…It will be hard pressed for anyone in out lineup to have over 80 rbis…

I’m not hating on D.O.B. but I think he overrated the AWFense in S. Training based on their performances against minor league pitchers…D.O.B. Feel Free to elaborate as to why our undisciplined offense has been garbage for three months now.I think Its Starts with TP and Bobby C.

Let’s See Most thought in S. Training that Francine Was supposed to have a complete 180 turn over last year. K-Fer was gonna be our next version of the 1996 Marquis Grissom, KJ was supposed to clown this year, and The Kotchmeister was a 15-20 homerun hitter and drive in 80-90 runs…

What Went Wrong…? No one on the coaching staff has been held accountable yet, and I think that is what really pisses us off about this team

D.O.B., I’m not hating on you or calling you out but this offense is really bad Nuff Said…

Again I’m just calling the team out, I’m not mad but I want answers…It seems like Only Brian Jordan and Ron Gant calls this team out when they play like Shyt

Thoughts?

RHR

July 6th, 2009
2:53 pm

I don’t think Albert’s air would make that deal, Shamus.

jason

July 6th, 2009
2:53 pm

ncscoots, I am talking pre 2005. Roughly at the same time as the JD Drew deal. Wainwright… He would have been the one to work into the rotation. In 2005 with all the young players, that just bought a false hope in carrying on the streak. I will admit that I fell for it to. I get that it is a tough decision to make when you only need one player to make another run. As I said, it is all in hiindsihgt. As much as people try to say… going about it the Marlins way is not the way to go about it.

ncscoots

July 6th, 2009
2:54 pm

TennPaul, aaah, gotcha. See, this is what happens when I take a simple concept (”rebuilding”) and confuse it with actual blog definitions (”blow up”). You’d think that, after all this time, I could get this s*** straight, LOL.

Necromancer

July 6th, 2009
2:54 pm

Tomahawkin

Get ready for a DOB sarcastic remark momentarily….

jason

July 6th, 2009
2:54 pm

The starting RF’er tonight will be a telling sign IMO.

Guarranteed win if Francouer’s in there tonight… :)

RHR

July 6th, 2009
2:55 pm

This is not up for discussion.

Then what are you doing here?

TennesseePaul

July 6th, 2009
2:56 pm

“They do that a lot, don’t they?”

Too much. I was in a prime spot on Saturday. Bragging about Tommy Hanson to all these Dodger fans. Then on comes the pen to stink it up.

And then the errors. The errors are the worst. I can understand having an off night, an ohfer either on the mound or at the plate, but defense shouldn’t have off nights. Not like this team has had.

UNCBrave

July 6th, 2009
2:56 pm

Who’s gonna trade for Francouer?? The Braves need a power-hitting OF and we can’t get Fracouer for that. DO NOT TRADE SS Escobar. He is a franchise SS. Trade the not so great #1 Derek Lowe. Medlen can fill in until Hudson gets off the DL.

OR

Trade GONZALES

Rob from SC (Please don't trade Escobar)

July 6th, 2009
2:57 pm

DOB

Do you think Escobar will be here for the long haul?

I hope so!

sal governale

July 6th, 2009
2:57 pm

Just bought the new Wilco, Dinosaur Jr., and Dirty Projectors — all excellent, highly recommended. Looking forward to Son Volt tomorrow.

McFann Ô

July 6th, 2009
2:58 pm

Tomahawkin It will be hard pressed for anyone in out lineup to have over 80 rbis…

Eh…we shall see. I know a guy who one year went into the second half with 29 RBI and finished the season with 93.

PMC

July 6th, 2009
2:58 pm

I always preferred Summerteeth and the earlier Wilco stuff to the Yankee Hotel Foxtrot stuff most of it anyway.

I liked Uncle Tupelo.

Shamus Thacker

July 6th, 2009
2:58 pm

You’re right RHR, what was I thinking? Too lopsided in our favor…

Bennett and KJ as throwins might make it happen. Nah, probably still not enough.

jason

July 6th, 2009
3:00 pm

ncscoots, I was going to say something similar. ATL had a core inplace to plug in a young player and still contend. They didn’t do that. They traded young players for vets who either underperformed or walked at the end of the year. That is all I was saying. Could have worked some young players in with the veterans. But all in hindsight…

corkylikesbeer

July 6th, 2009
3:00 pm

Diaz and Prado, are both career .300 hitters in the majors…Please DO NOT trade Escobar

McFann Ô

July 6th, 2009
3:00 pm

10Paul

Ain’t it the truth!

I think I’ve given up on bragging–it always comes back to bite me in the butt. Yet, when I go on about how bad someone has been lately, he does his best to show how right I am…

Adam Dunn

July 6th, 2009
3:01 pm

Ok I cant believe I am about to say this but…. I am pretty content with the current lineup the way it is today, right now. garett anderson is playing great and matty d is the man. prado and diaz > french and johnson any day of the week and everyone knows it. Thank god old bobby has finally seen the light… ABSOLUTELY DO NOT trade esco for anything he is our best player!! mccann is up and down (struggled of late) chipper well everyone knows his deal that leaves esco mr 300 hitter with power and clutchness.. if anything go get dunn for french and prospects like someone else said… french medlen gonzo shafer i dunno who but thats really the only deal i would want. replace kotch with dunnnn

glord

July 6th, 2009
3:02 pm

Coach I disagree on Prado. While is obviously not going to keep this pace up forever I think both Martins minor league and major league numbers proiject well. He is a lifetime .300 hitter in the minors and in almost 500 at bats in the majors he is .314 with a .838 OPS. As a 3B I would worry about his offense but there is no reason to think he cant produce 15 hr 70 rbi and a .290 average as a starter at second. Those numbers dont stink for a 2B.

McFann Ô

July 6th, 2009
3:03 pm

Oh, and I hate errors…throwing errors…they’re like strikeouts and popups–just cannot stand the sight of them…the more the un-merrier…

Mr J

July 6th, 2009
3:03 pm

I wonder if there are any affordable defensive wizard shortstops available that could be had for a pitcher, or maybe minor league players. If there were, Escobar could be traded for a power hitting outfielder without having to get a SS in return.

If the defense was good enough, and the outfielder was potent enough, we might not miss Esco so much. Raphael Belliard worked well for us.

Pretend Hero

July 6th, 2009
3:03 pm

Lots of trade talk going on, and while its clear the Braves lack power, I think they also lack speed. Talk of someone like Cuddyer does not make this team any faster or more athletic.

Trade for a leadoff hitter and move McClouth to number two.

I might just be delusional and thinking fondly of Furcals first couple years in Atlanta and all the chaos he caused on the basepaths.

David O'Brien

July 6th, 2009
3:03 pm

TennPaul: Strictly talking about the last two studio albums, which I found to be … boring.

Loved the live album.

And the new CD is outstanding, sort of a little of all their styles, though thankfully not much of the “egg” album.

Hmmm: Yeah, we definitely must’ve seen different movies. I saw the really good one called Public Enemies, with Johnny Depp.

jason

July 6th, 2009
3:05 pm

glord, you really think Prado could hit 15 HRs. I like Prado, but I don’t think he will go 15 HRs. Don’t get me wrong I would take that production all day long at 2B and in the 2 hole.

Bobby's Cox

July 6th, 2009
3:06 pm

Martin Prado is indeed having the time of his life at the moment. However, I would caution the expectations. Nothing in his minor league career suggests anything other than Prado being a really good utility player with marginal defensive range and very little power. Enjoy his hot streak, it won’t last COACH

False. Prado was never a utility guy in the minors. He played 421 of his 465 minor league games at 2nd base. He wasn’t a utility guy in the minors. He also hit .300/.353/.393 in the minors, which is more than “utility” numbers.

Face it Coach, Prado was termed a utility guy as a result of the Braves preferring Kelly’s so called power bat and on base skills over Prado. Prado never really lost the job in 3 spring trainings. It’s more that the Braves didn’t have a leadoff hitter.

Prado also threw up a .995 Fielding % in his last full season in Richmond in 2007. That was the last year he played extensively at 2nd. Since, he’s LEARNED SS, 3B, 1B, and LF. His last minor league assignment in AA last year when he was rehabbing he played LF. He played LF in winter ball this past year because he knew the Braves needed a RH outfield bat.

Prado pressed in the field last year, trying to earn some PT. Since, he has played more games at 3rd and 1B than he has played at 2B. Prado will be better defensively as he continues to play on a regular basis. He’s made a fair amount of good plays all over the diamond that suggests so. Go to MLB’s muliti-media page to see all of them.

And Coach, what makes you think Prado will be less than a solid .300 hitting major leaguer? I can sit here and say he will because he gives good at-bats, hits fastball, curve balls, sliders, turns on inside pitches, hits the ball to RF and up the middle equally as he pulls the ball. Seriously, at least I can back that up. The dude has OPS’d over .800 for 2 seasons now in limited action.

What evidence do you have that suggests he will only be as good as a utility guy?

jason

July 6th, 2009
3:07 pm

David O’Brien, Hate to be a pest, but do you have an opinion on my 2:21 post. I value your input. Thanks again.

deepinmetsterritory

July 6th, 2009
3:07 pm

DOB,
Not to hate, but Public Enemies will most likely not be nominated for an Oscar, even with a heavy crowd of nominees. Typically, Oscar campaigns are composed, quite literally, like an election of a town of 15,000 folks. Oscar voters receive direct mail, screenings of the films, and are invited to events were actors, actresses, and directors (i.e., “talent”) from the project come to discuss it/present it afterward. Public Enemies, while it has a ton going for it, didn’t get great reviews – I just don’t see the studio investing the dollars to campaign for something like this. Especially since Depp may be coming out with the Rum Diaries later this year (something much more likelier to get him a performance nomination).

But what it all comes down to, ultimately, is timing. Studios don’t release their Oscar bait until late August/early September, and each studio has at least 2 or three movies on their Oscar docket. Universal probably has a better shot at getting a nomination/win for something like Bruno or State of Play than Public Enemies. I predict State of Play, at least, will have a much higher CinemaScore (an important number to determine if a film has made it past the “acceptability” threshold.

Of course, human beings vote on this and so you can never truly predict anything…but again, I’d be shocked if Public Enemies received a best Picture nomination.

Robert (Chipper Is The Best)

July 6th, 2009
3:07 pm

If Escobar is traded it will have to be for another similar impact player who is cheap and controllable for awhile. But, not necessarily a SS. Infante could play SS the rest of the year and the Braves acquire another one during the offseason. I find it hard to believe Royals being a trade partner unless they give up Hocevar along with Teahen. And I don’t see that being possible.

I know the A’s have been brought up. Let me say this. If that deal for Holliday and Cabrera was done the Braves would win the East without a doubt but it would do nothing for the future. But, are the Braves really worried beyond 2009 right now? Let me state clearly I wouldn’t make the deal but I am saying I think it would make the Braves the clear cut favorites.

Jackie Treehorn

July 6th, 2009
3:07 pm

DOB, I liked Public Enemies, but didn’t you think it was missing something?

I consider it to be similar to a movie like American Gangster, only in AG I actually cared about the cat and mouse game between Russell Crowe and Denzel. In Public Enemies, you got no real sense of why Melvin Purvis cared so much about catching Dillinger, other than it was his job.

Thoughts?

Shamus Thacker

July 6th, 2009
3:09 pm

Strapping boy like Frenchy would bring mucho deniro from the Thailand slave market. Maybe enough for a decent right fielder…

Cummon Wren, think outside the box!

Bobby's Cox

July 6th, 2009
3:09 pm

Seriously Coach, i want to know why you think Prado won’t be more than a utility guy? Please use some statistical analysis. I don’t care if you disagree, I just want to know your reasoning. Prado is turning into the bat we all hoped KJ would.

On top of that, he’s said he’s never been able to get in a rhythm because he doesn’t get to play everyday. When he played 1B for a month last year, he raked, and now that he’s getting extended time this year, he’s raked. I see more positives than negatives. Please, I look forward to your response.

Many hugs….

Tomahawkin

July 6th, 2009
3:10 pm

NecroMancer…

It’s All Good If D.O.B. wants to slam me I will take it like a man It takes a lot to P’s Me off, but D.O.B. knows that this team has been pretty mediocre for the last 3 years and he has covered the team since 2002 I believe so he know how this team relates to the 2002-2005 teams…”You Must not know bout Me!” Why Am I listening to that, I’ve lost my mind…lol

“To The Left to the Left…! lol

No seriously Someone on the club needs to be held accountable for this Coming Correct against the good teams and slacking off against the Garbage teams…Chipper can point all the fingers he wants to but he is having an off year on both sides of the field. His Offense numbers are down because KJ has been Garbage all season and he lead off way too long…

I don’t know why Joe, Chip and Boog don’t call TP out…

Time To Listen to some old Public Enemy again “Can’t Truss It”

Nova Scotia Steve

July 6th, 2009
3:10 pm

So would we call this another massive series…????

God bless us all…

Nice to have you back Dave!

jason

July 6th, 2009
3:12 pm

Robert (Chipper Is The Best), I some what agree. I am torn on this possible deal. We could very well win the east. Both Holliday and Cabrera will be FAs at end of season. You don’t have to sign either. But you will be back to square 1 filling the same need you already had, a poweer hitte, plus you will also have to find a SS. Is Cabrera or Holliday worth trying to sign in the offseason. Holliday has always hit good at the TED,but is also a Boras client. Decisions, decisions….

Tomahawkin

July 6th, 2009
3:12 pm

McFann…

I think Roger Mcdowell Needs to work with his pitchers more at holding runners on because they make B-Macc look like crap when runners steal bases because our pitchers don’t put a concerted effort to hold the runners….that has been going on for about 2 months now…

Steve from OH

July 6th, 2009
3:13 pm

Don’t hold your breath, Bobby’s…

UNCBrave

July 6th, 2009
3:14 pm

NATIONALS GET:
OF Jeff Francouer
LHP Mike Gonzales
RHP Phil Medlen
OF Jordan Schafer

BRAVES GET:
OF Adam Dunn
1B Nick Johnson
LHP Bennett

I’m also in favor of getting LaRoche from Pitt. If we can upgrade our power without losing Vasquez or Escobar, it would be an upgrade

stynes

July 6th, 2009
3:14 pm

DOB – Talk KC BBQ with me for a moment. Going through there in a couple of weeks. Will have a chance to stop once on the way out and possibly once on the way back. Gimme your #1 and #2. Thanks!

glord

July 6th, 2009
3:14 pm

Jason, yes I think Prado could hit 15 home runs in the majors. Will he? I don’t know. He has hit 4 playing off and on. Project his at bats for about 16 over a full season althouth the sample size is really small.

Here is what I do know anout Prado. He hits .300 every where he plays. He is only 25 so his power should continue to increase as he gets toward 27 – 28. Also I know I watch a guy hit with great pitch recognition, good balance, and very quick hands. He hits the ball wherever its pitched and just looks like a .300 hitter. I do not think he is a fluke and would be surprised if with a full season he did not put up 10-15 hr 70 rbi and close to a .290 average.

Soph

July 6th, 2009
3:15 pm

Kris Medlen. Not Phil.

jason

July 6th, 2009
3:17 pm

glord, what I like about Prado is his sbility to work counts and also to set up pitchers. He goes innoticed at that because he doesn’t hit HRs. He sets up pitchers as good as Chipper. I was thinking more around 10-12 HR output, but i get what you are saying about getting stronger as he gets older. He looks a lot stronger this year when compared to last.

Braves73

July 6th, 2009
3:18 pm

DOB – Let me tell you about this great show on Noggin…it’s called Yo-Gabba-Gabba and you will absolutely love it! I think I am going to suggest a show everyday and share some more great ones with you.

Missing the Braves of the 90's...

July 6th, 2009
3:19 pm

Hey DB, just so you know, I don’t care about your music interests. Just stick to the Braves man!

Thanks. :)

jason

July 6th, 2009
3:19 pm

glord Also, I thought it was funny yesyerday when Dibble kept calling for Olsen to pitch outside to Prado. I think Prado was trying to set Olsen up to go away. I was like OK, Olsen go away and watch Prado 2B down the RF line.

Original Jon

July 6th, 2009
3:20 pm

UNCBraves, whats with the fantasy league trade idea man? That trade makes no sense at all for the Nationals.

UNCBrave

July 6th, 2009
3:20 pm

Sorry, meant to include the NATS getting 1B Casey Kotchman as well..

UNCBrave

July 6th, 2009
3:13 pm
NATIONALS GET:
OF Jeff Francouer
LHP Mike Gonzales
1B Casey Kotchman
RHP Phil Medlen
OF Jordan Schafer

BRAVES GET:
OF Adam Dunn
1B Nick Johnson
LHP Bennett

jason

July 6th, 2009
3:20 pm

Braves73, you got kids? I do, and I can’t stand that show, but my kids love it. Seen the one episode with Jack Black?

RC

July 6th, 2009
3:21 pm

Not only is it Kris instead of Phil Medlen, there is no way the money works out in that deal, even if it did make sense. Braves really can’t afford to take on any extra payroll at this point (which is why Vazquez is likely a part of any trade).

jason

July 6th, 2009
3:21 pm

UNCBrave, so we flip half our roster for the Nats. How do we win with that?

McFann Ô

July 6th, 2009
3:21 pm

Tomahawkin

I completely agree, but haha…2 months? Man, it’s been a little longer than that (although last year, BMac’s throws weren’t so good, either, so it didn’t matter quite as much…).

But yeah, that’s something I’ve said for a while–huh, though against the Skankees, BMac’s throwing was kinda cruddy–7 SB in that series, and at least three not good throws…that doubles-steal where BMac bobbled the ball was a killer, too…

ncscoots

July 6th, 2009
3:21 pm

Bobby’s, I don’t know…Prado has 52 hits all year, and 15 of them in one torrid week. Doesn’t that seem a little, um, “streaky”, LOL?

McFann Ô

July 6th, 2009
3:22 pm

jason I was like OK, Olsen go away

I wish he would have…

hhmmm

July 6th, 2009
3:22 pm

Jackie I agree. None of the characters in that movie had any “real” motive or ties to the other. Dillinger loves his lady – didn’t see much to actually believe that. Purvis is consumed with Dillinger- nope nothing to show that. Hoover maybe but not Purvis. None of the public enemies had any real bonds. Just blanket themes with nothing to back it up. American Gangster is far superior to this. Of course almost any Sopano’s episode was as well.

The A Bomb

July 6th, 2009
3:23 pm

A bunch of you homers took issue with me Saturday when I said we blew a MUST WIN game…..

See? Went back to normal yesterday and many of you homers are trying to figure out how to tread water. Now we’re 4 out. Lost 2 of 3 to a team that will lose 100+ games.

Now Rollins is hitting. Philly hasn’t had a hot streak in ages and they’re looking at 7 more at home with Cincy and Pittsburgh.

Forget it folks, we might be close to 10 out by Sunday.

Keep doing your lineups, it’s almost comical. Stand pat with the pitching, SS, 2B, C, and CF. We’re strong up the middle which is good! Gut the rest and wait for the young guys.

And, oh yeah, wait for a manager who won’t pull the horse out when he’s in total control of a game.

ncscoots

July 6th, 2009
3:23 pm

Jason, you sound like a pathetic puppy. DOB? DOB? DOB? Over here!!! Get a grip.

Braves73

July 6th, 2009
3:24 pm

jason – Dude, the next time Jack Black comes up with another kids show, I am going to find him and make him watch the Braves…it’s almost as bad.

jason

July 6th, 2009
3:24 pm

McFann Ô Prado was trying to bait him. Olsen wouldn’t bite. It’s ok, Prado was like what 5-5 with 2 2bs?

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