9:05 am July 3, 2009, by Carroll Rogers
July 3rd, 20091:36 pm
bravos 123, Why not platoon RF the same as LF? Loaf an Blanco in LF and JF and MattyD in RF. Roll with that until if/when an OF bat is dealt for.
It’s going to be interesting when Infante comes back. Having Prado as the everyday 2B. Do you still move Prado around the infield (1B, 3B, 2B) or leave him at second. If so, how do you get Infante ABs outside of rest for Yunel (assuming Yunel is still here)?
July 3rd, 20091:37 pm
bravos 123: “Pete I agree about that game in Philly giving up a 10-2 lead, actually I think we’d be tied with them now (+1 vs. -1 = 2 game swing).”
July 3rd, 20091:38 pm
That wrist tendinitus injury sounds SO made up, but whatever it takes to get our unproductive players off the major league roster, I’m all for it.
So what “injury” will Jeff endure in the next week or two? Turkey underwear withdrawal syndrome?
People, stop calling for Adrian Gonzalez and Victor Martinez. It ain’t happening. This isn’t your yahoo or espn fantasy league.
Maggs is over the hill and extremely overpayed. this isn’t the NBA where they trade players ‘with expiring contracts’ to dump payroll.
Frank from KS (now living in CO)
July 3rd, 20091:39 pm
jason re: your 12:45
Yes/I knew Melvin Nieves was one of them (.231 in parts of seven seasons),. Donnie Elliott (31 career appearances, 30 as a reliever) and Vince Moore (career minor-leaguer) were the other two.
Did some investigating and found the answer(s).
July 3rd, 20091:40 pm
How bought this trade. Justin Upton (RF) and Mark Reynolds (plays 3rd, but can play anywhere in infield) from Arizona for Javy, Francour, and Yunel. Maybe throw in a prospect and maybe the Braves have to agree to pay Francour’s salary for the rest of the season. This would give us 2 guys with more homers than any brave and both with good averages, and both haven’t even had arbitration yet, so we could have them for 2 or 3 years…Dreaming Right?
Where is Crazy Trades McGee when you need him. Some people should not be allowed yo post. Arizaona trading their two most productive young players… Wow ! Stupidness….
JC form UT
July 3rd, 20091:41 pm
I do not know if this has been asked before, but who was moved from the 40 man roster to make room for Conrad? Could someone let me know?
DO NOT TRADE VAZQUEZ..
PLEASE dont trade Vazquez! He has been really tough lately. I understand he has great trade value, but unless we get a huge impact bat, he has more value for the Braves. Hudson is an unknown at this moment.
July 3rd, 20091:42 pm
July 3rd, 2009
Tim Marchman’s NL All-Star
I stopped reading when he chose Geovany Soto as an all-star.
What are the rules for putting someone on the DL… is there a group that looks into these injuries to make sure they are legit? It’s just funny how when everyone starts to suck these days or slump they develop some mysterious injury. watch out frenchy.
jj and jason i am not here to read your comments believe you me, i could do just as good reading the comics…the only post that get my attention is the ones that pop up and arelabeled as DOB and Carroll Rogers.
Frank from KS (now living in CO), Thanks, Elliot was the pitcher I was thinking of. I thought there was four, but three does sound right. Moore was a speedster with a little pop. I think he was in the Rockies organization for a bit. We gave up nothing for McGriff. Best steal by far.
forget the curveball Ricky
July 3rd, 20091:43 pm
JJ – what’s wrong with getting Victor? nothing, but its not going to happen. we wont give up what Cle would want for him. a weak hitting 1b, a large contract on a pitcher and a headcase SS that has been benched and injured isnt going to pry him away.
imo it would take a top level prospect (which wren has said that he will not do) + esco
im all for random trade ideas, but this one isnt going to work
I think Moore and Elliot didn’t last too long and Nieves wasn’t around that long in the majors either.
lets sweep the nats!!
What? they got rid of scumbags Lasting Milledge and Dukes? Wow now decent people in DC can be proud to be Nationals fans again. Guess i cant make fun of them anymore for picking up other teams crap.
I wonder if Millidge is working on his next cd titled…. “I might suck at baseball, but yo at least me can rap, wait i suck at that 2″ coming soon to a fleamarket near u…..
The Braves are 3-0 against the Nationals at Turner Field this season, but 1-2 against them at Nationals Park. They’re 3-9 at Nationals Park over the last two season, including 2-7 last year
The Braves WERE also 0-9 against Philly last season at the Ted. We’re playing good ball. I like our chances.
July 3rd, 20091:44 pm
also, whoever thought that we could get upton from arizona is mad…there’s no way they trade a player of that calibur/age
The A Bomb
My point is that Anderson is the one with trade value NOW for many AL teams. He is a lefthanded DH and IF the Braves were to somehow make the postseason he is the one player who could lose a game with his defense.
I would wager that many AL contenders view Anderson in high regard and now that he’s hitting a bit strike while the iron is hot for a righthanded power hitter.
And by the way, Supes, what did the Braves do with Teixeira last year? Expiring contract, lower payroll. Teams not in contention dump payroll by July 31 every single year.
It’s nice to sweep the defending World Champs! I have enjoyed watching the Braves during this “difficult time” in the season. Starting with the Cubs make up victory, the team has played well. With a couple of breaks they could have won both the Yankees and Sox series.
DOB has been hinting for quite a while that Yunel has been on the doo doo list of his teammates and the front office. It would not surprise me to see him traded. The Javy trade scares me a little, but if they can find the right partner, it could work.
Someone earlier said that Javy should be traded to a contender, I agree with that. Javy has always had a preference for the East Coast and would be better in the NL. That leaves the NL East and the NL Central. Is there a match up with the Cardinals or the Brewers?
I think Yunel has to go in separate deal. I still see the Red Sox as the likely destination for young pitching and Lowrie. I would demand Nick Green to be included since Lowrie is still hurt and would be the “player to be named later.”
I am hoping that Frenchy can be included in one of these deals (if they happen).
I think these trades could be made in a way that the Braves would be better this year and next, although with teams (including the Braves) not willing to take on payroll that might be difficult.
Need to keep working and beat up on the Nats over the weekend!
cphizzle, Then why comment, just scroll and read Carrol’s and DOB’s posts.
Justin Upton (RF) and Mark Reynolds (plays 3rd, but can play anywhere in infield) from Arizona for Javy, Francour, and Yunel. Maybe throw in a prospect and maybe the Braves have to agree to pay Francour’s salary for the rest of the season. This would give us 2 guys with more homers than any brave and both with good averages, and both haven’t even had arbitration yet, so we could have them for 2 or 3 years…Dreaming Right?
Mark Reynolds strikes out way too much and needs to work on his plate discipline and pitch recognition, he also doesn’t have an established position to play. 3B? 1B? We’ve got one of each, where do you put him at? 2B?
Upton has struggled a lot at times, he may turn out to be servicable in the long run but too streaky right now.
I wouldn’t do that deal even if the D’backs were the ones that called and offered it to us.
July 3rd, 20091:45 pm
A little trivia….
Who did McGriff hit the GW HR (or tying HR?) off of in his first game as Brave against St. Louis?
chip off the ol block
its been awhile since i’ve been able to post on here
I hope that Javy is not traded, think about it, he’s one of the BEST PITCHERS IN BASEBALL RIGHT NOW! He’s one of the leading strikeout leaders had he had any runs during his game he could easily be a 10 game winner right now
I cant think of any batter that would be worth giving Javy up for… well any batter that the team would be willing to part with who’s contract isnt completely outrageous
July 3rd, 20091:46 pm
Yeah, Tex didn’t have 18 million going to him or whatever Maggs has.
July 3rd, 20091:47 pm
Why does anyone care whether KJ is hurt or not? The bottom line is we don’t have to watch him scuffle for a while? Get over it!!
July 3rd, 20091:48 pm
The A Bomb, The thing with trading Loaf is that yes it is doable, but what do you expect in return. The only thing we could get is a mid level prospect at best or some mid relief/ cast off pitcher.
upton may turn out to be serviceable?
sweet jeebus….the kid is going to be a beast. he’s already up to 300/14/45 this season
Greg Olson Homers
Can someone give me a primer on Brooks Conrad?
July 3rd, 20091:50 pm
Frank from KS (now living in CO), Do I have time to search the web? I am slow in that regard.
I am going to say…. Mike Perez
You aren’t on here to read our comments and yet you do, if fact, read our comments and then complain about them. LOL…
July 3rd, 20091:51 pm
JJ, I was trying to be nice…
You aren’t on here to read our comments and yet you do, if fact, read our comments and then complain about them. LOL
well sorry if i seem a little on the bitter side boys i am at work on the 3rd of July and i am not happy about it
July 3rd, 20091:52 pm
WRONGGGGG (as the buzzer sounds) LOL
This manipulation of the DL by Major League teams has become absurd. As a long time union organizer and negotiator, I really wonder how the union looks at this. Perhaps with the economic pressures, they are not going to raise questions, but one has to wonder if this may become a future issue. Every team is doing it, so no one really has standing to criticize except the union.
Of course, it is also arguable that every player in the league has injuries of some degree at this point. The smallest injury can lead to an adjustment that screws up a player’s performance and indeed screws up their mental state and they are definitely nervous about using any meds to overcome their injuries. When you see more and more players get the old DFA, you can be pretty amenable. And when you see statistics showing the downturn in performance by players between ages 32 and 33, you can see more pressures.
So in Kelly’s situation, how long a rehab can they justify? Can they justify playing him in the outfield for a lengthy time in the minors when he is out of options? He can not be traded when he is on the DL, though his trade value is zero in comparison to what it was before the season. This also means he is not one of the subjects in DOB and others’ speculations.
Personally, everyone who has seen my comments knows that I am a defender of Escobar. And I also have always been a fan of Vazquez; once at a big art event in NY when Vazquez was still playing for the Expos and now Marlins owner Lurie (spelling?), who is also a big art dealer, I stopped at his table and jokingly said I would trade a Picasso (if I had one) for Javy. Actually, I would not make that trade, but all should get the point.
However, perhaps for Ryan Braun and JJ Hardy, though it is really hard to imagine a Braun on the block.
Greg Olson Homers – He is better defensivly than KJ and hits like KJ.
July 3rd, 20091:53 pm
See….that’s how much of a fan I am and have been. I can still remember stuff like that.
July 3rd, 20091:55 pm
now the win last night was nice…first time this year that it looked like we played like a team. i am a little concerned with mike gonzalez though hasnt been as sharp here lately
Frank from KS (now living in CO), I knew when I posted it. Crime dog hit the HR to set off the firworks after the original firworks pregame (press box)
July 3rd, 20091:57 pm
as I have said before If, and a big IF, trades need to be made I see two trades being made. Escobar for a good young, major league ready pitching. 2 teams that have that top young pitching and are looking for position players are the Red Sox and the A’s. This trade would accomplish 3 things. 1. the trade would rid our clubhouse of a reportedly poisonous personality. 2. It would give us the pitching depth to trade Vazquez, and 3. It would set up our rotation for years to come with Hanson, JJ, and Buchholz/A’s pitcher as the very affordable bedrock of our rotation for years.
Vazquez would only be moved for a king’s ransom if the Braves continue to play well. Milwaukee, Texas, LA Dodgers, and LA Angels have all been looking for starting pitching. With Peavy and Bedard hurting, it will make Vazquez a hot commodity if he hits the open market. Vazquez is peaking and I feel it will be a selling high trade (though I would hate to see him go). Milwaukee would be a great fit if they would be willing to include at least one of their top prospects that they say are now off limits. LA Dodgers, with the return on Manny, will have a corner OF to spare – Ethier or Kemp plus a big prospect or two would get this done.
If the Braves are going to trade Vazquez sometime before the start of next year, this may be the time when his value peaks since there are no other pitchers of his stature (and this year’s numbers) on the market, and teams are often willing to pay a little more when they think a trade will get them over the top and into (and deep into) the post-season (see Teixeira trade)
Enter your comments here
The Dodgers are 1st in pitching, 2nd in offense….
The also play a handful of their games against teams that rank at the bottom of the NL in offense (SD, ARI). SF and COL had struggling offenses early on when the dodgers started off hot winning 21 of 30 games? to start the year against their division. Those 2 teams have moved up quite a bit in the offensive ranks as of late.
The Dodgers sit back and wait for teams to screw up. The other night being down 2-0, they were able to tie the score at 2 because of a balk when a COL pitcher thought time was called and stopped his delivery (they won in extras on an Ethier HR). If you watch the team play, you’ll know stuff like this happens to the Dodgers all the friggin time.
They do play mistake free ball and are fundamentally sound (qualities brought in by Torre), but I think they are pretty beatable. More so than their record and stats indicate. On a side note, their bullpen is probably the best in baseball.
Frank from KS (now living in CO, I am to, but I am getting to the point where the seasons run together…
Brooks Conrad Stats
I like his slugging and his OBP is .356. Any chance that translates?
July 3rd, 20091:58 pm
remember all those bottom of the 9th comeback wins in 95…i still remember fred mcgriff hitting a hr off rod beck to win a game that year now thats sad aint it
Yeah, I probably should have been as well. It’s just stupid to tell someone that you don’t read their comments and then complain about what they comment on. Short fuse today, I suppose.
July 3rd, 20091:59 pm
cphizzle, Its all good. Sucks you are at work for I would be crabby to. I don’y mind all the talk on here, except for the absurb trade rumors like Dunn and V. Martinez. We are just opining on what would work to make our team better. There are some very knowledgable people in here with some good ideas, I just don’t know where they all are at this moment…
July 3rd, 20092:00 pm
jj and jason do you 2 wanna be alone…
I am sorry, SUPES, but that may be the most idiotic baseball trade analysis I have read on this blog.
You wouldn’t trade Yunel, Javy, and Francoeur for Upton and Reynolds? Really? Not even if the D-Backs called you? Well I have news for you, bud, the D-Backs wouldn’t trade Upton straight up for all those guys, much less with the addition of another high ceiling player in Reynolds.
Upton has arguably the highest ceiling in all of baseball. He is 21 and he is already an absolute monster at the plate. He hits for power, he has wheels, and he is a good defender. And oh did I mention, he is 21? I seriously don’t know any proposal that we could send to Arizona to land Upton. Maybe Heyward, Hanson, and change. I am pretty confident we would get laughed at for making that proposal. Justin Upton screams the next Ken Griffey Jr, and you wouldn’t trade him for 2 years on a pitching contract and a good shortstop with attitude problems. Amazing.
And then you throw in Mark Reynolds. I mean, good gracious, do you guys even watch teams other than the Braves?
July 3rd, 20092:01 pm
i’d rather keep JV and send kawakami to the pen if/when hudson comes back
July 3rd, 20092:02 pm
whoops my bad jason didnt see the last post before i went after you again my bad hombre…its all good. if we could somehow figure it all out i guess we would have one of those nice offices with our name on the desk and the GM title at the end of it
The Braves are on the second four game winning streak since May 23rd, 2008. The two 4 game streaks are the longest such winning streaks in that stretch.
Sure hope they can pull out a seven game stretch. I see the Mets and Phillies trading barbs this weekend with a 2-1 split some how in that series. That could give the Braves a leap forward in the packed standings. The Marlins get to hit the Pirates, but those Pirates can surprise…
Keep it up Bravos!
Conrad plays well defensively, and is serviceable at almost every position. I beleive he is a switch hitter, and is a singles/ doubles guy with more power potential than KJ.
The Bird and Indian
If we trade Javy it better be for a real slugger like Holliday. Javy could be in the Cy Young talk if he had an offense behind him this year.
July 3rd, 20092:03 pm
Yeah, this last week probably didn’t help matters any–geez, I mean, what was his prob?
He will be on the team, though, I have no doubts about that.
Roman Gal That just makes me feel so double pitts to chesty special.
Jason what’s going on with our guy?
I wish I knew…he went through a bad stretch this time last year (a stretch that included an 0-10 with RSIP), but I don’t recall that his D took such a hit at that time. Let’s not kid ourselves–his D was not so good last year, but I don’t remember there being a particular stretch of games where it was this much exposed. Last year, his D was pretty stinky over the whole year, whereas this year, it was looking pretty good until this week.
I know what you mean about skipping the ASG…but we all know what I wish he would have skipped (Hint: the first word is World…).
He owes me alot of HRs and you of course alot of 2Bs.
RBI doubles at that! Yeah, he’s totally got his work cut out for him!
July 3rd, 20092:04 pm
trade javy (arguably, best pitcher) for a half year of holliday….no thanks
July 3rd, 20092:05 pm
I had to work on July 4th one year, and I wasnt unhappy…..of course I was an assistant manager at a strip club…..lol
July 3rd, 2009
brian, That was a good post. I want to expand on the dodgers. I earlier posted a stat I was not aware of. they are like third in most innings pitched bt their BP. They are using alot of young starters that are not working deep into games. They could very well be a fit for JV, not that i want to trade him. He could very well get us either Kemp or Ethier and some pitching prospects. The only down side is having to face them in the playoffs with JV.
July 3rd, 20092:07 pm
nada jason…no harm no foul lets proceed
July 3rd, 20092:08 pm
Hey don’t take down the WHOLE blog. We do have some knowledgeable people on here who can talk some good baseball. At the same time I can’t disagree with you on some people.
July 3rd, 20092:09 pm
That was to cphizzle BTW.
July 3rd, 20092:10 pm
Andy K, Conrad has made 15 errors in 73 games compared to Kelly’s 6 in 63 games.
I would hate to see Vasquez be traded! Esco, I am indifferent. Dude does not play the game right. That ego needs a whack on the head.
But the Braves kind of brought it on themselves. I remember when he first came up and had this outrageous 12 or 13 pitch at bat finally smacking a double to win the game. He played hard with heart, played every game like life or death.
Then the Braves asked him to tone it down that this is not how Braves carry themselves. ARRRRGGGHHH. This is the same thinking that caused us to trade Justice. Haven’t been the same team since that trade.
Brooks Conrad, Boone Logan…we’re big on players with 2 last names.
July 3rd, 20092:11 pm
We are STILL 4 men deep in the rotation. In no particular order. Hanson, Lowe, JJJ and KK.
That’s deeper than we were most years with Maddux, Glavine and Smoltz.
That may be true but I’m stingy. I want a solid 5. Eff what other teams need – lol. And eff trading Yunel. That’s just stupid. Bobby et al. needs to get over it and learn how to deal with difficult players. Unless he starts acting like Manny, Milton, or Elijah, I’m firmly on Team Yunel and will be ill if the Braves trade him.
July 3rd, 20092:12 pm
For those who asked, I believe Jorge Campillo was recently placed on the 60-day DL, thus that takes him off the 40-man roster, therefore opening up a spot for Mr. Conrad.
July 3rd, 20092:13 pm
Jayson Stark said the Braves were trying to “peddle Francouer” to anyone that would listen, and no dice. Sounds believable to me. I think Jeff’s next stop is going to be Gwinett, not another team.
When is Infante due back
Serious question, who takes Javy’s place in the rotation if he is traded? Medlen? Jo Jo?
Oh dear lord…
July 3rd, 20092:14 pm
Rough week for KJ. First he gets benched now he’s on the DL. What’s next? His cat going to die?
It doesn’t matter if KJ is hurt or not. Tampa did the same thing this year with Kazmir when he sucked. They DL’d him, let him rest for a week, then gave him like 3 weeks to work on mechanics. Looks like it worked.
I doubt KJ has “wrist tendinitis”. Striking out on 3 pitches the other night, 2 of which weren’t even in the strike zone, looked more like a struggling player than a guy who has a wrist problem.
DL’ing him also sends a message to other teams that the reason for his problems this year could be injury related. KJ isn’t even an asset as a pinch hitter at this point. Let him get some time off to clear his head, then get some swings in at AAA, then bring him back up. What’s the big deal?
July 3rd, 20092:15 pm
Bobby’s Cox, while I agree that LA has the best relief right now, but I have to wonder, with all the innings that they are piling up. Will they wear down? As brian alluded to in an earlier post, Saying that we had to deal JV would it work with LA? Seems they need a starter who can eat innings and save the BP. We need an OF bat with power (Either/ Kemp) What do you think?
July 3rd, 20092:16 pm
Why does everyone keep clamoring for Matt Holliday? Here’s what Jayson Stark of ESPN.com wrote about on one scout’s take of Holliday.
“Oh, and one more thing. Holliday’s line since June 6: .250 average, 0 homers, 4 RBIs, a .333 slugging percentage. “He’d be a tough sell for me,” said one scout. “To me, good hitters stay good hitters. Good hitters figure it out. After you change leagues and you change parks, you adjust. You should improve your numbers as time goes on. But he hasn’t given any indication he’s going to do that.”"
So why anyone wants Holliday is beyond me.
July 3rd, 20092:17 pm
Wait wait wait, Kelly is on the DL? Since when? For what? Greene-Votto Syndrome?
July 3rd, 20092:18 pm
Jason Curtis Jones, Nice line up. But I would give BMac a rest tonight.
Yeah, me, too…doesn’t a 6:30 start count as a DGANG, anyway?
July 3rd, 20092:20 pm
In regards to possibly dealing JV. I have a couple of questions. When exactly is the trade deadline? When is Huddy estimated to be back on the the pitching staff? I am thinking that if we wait until the deadline to move JV, Huddy might be ready to step in his place. I could be wrong, but I am trying to figure out how many possible starts will be needed by Medlen?
July 3rd, 20092:21 pm
sounds like coxes dog house could provide fodder for mike vick its so full lo lbut then those are just mind less praattles from frustrated bloggers lol
McFann :Ô: That’s a good question. Especially now that it doesn’t get dark until around 9:00. Yeah I say rest BMac today and Chipper tomorrow.
So this Conrad guy isn’t going to start at 2B, is he? Just a bench guy, right? Another 29 year old rookie..
Coach (2010 or Bust)
July 3rd, 20092:22 pm
Brooks Conrad is a career minor leaguer getting his latest cup of coffee. Nothing to get excited about here folks.
there is a bit of knowledge floating round the ol blog but at the same time so that just leave you scratching your head and then some that you hear so many times that you actually start believing yourself
has anyone heard the rumour of Ga wanting a dog house installed in lf to sit on while he watches?
July 3rd, 20092:24 pm
McFann, we’ve got day games the next 2 days after today so I’d bet Mac is in tonight and then again Sunday. And I’m sure Chipper will get today or tomorrow off. Just when we get a good lineup cooking they have to go and get off days lol.
cphizzle, that is true. you could blur the lines of truth and fiction if you are not careful.
I really hate that we’re thinking about trading Vasquez. You just can’t put too much stock in Hudson this soon after TJ, IMO. But, some teams are desperate for pitching. Texas, maybe the Yanks. I wouldn’t mind having Cruz or Melky in RF…and if Hudson falters, we still have Medlen. We absolutely cannot trade Yunel. We will probably need at least 1 more bullpen arm too. That’s what i see us getting for either KJ or Frenchy.
July 3rd, 20092:26 pm
What teams can JV block trades to? I am thinking TEX and NY would be 2.
July 3rd, 20092:27 pm
Jason, I like your idea at 1:36
Point is BC lots of able parts to choose from now depending on opposing pitcher, batter tendencies, etc. and doesn’t have to rotely put in JF in RF every game.
July 3rd, 20092:29 pm
Wait wait wait, Kelly is on the DL? Since when? For what? Greene-Votto Syndrome?
Votto had an inner ear infection that was causing acute dizziness, a result of influenza congestion (bacteria gets trapped in the ears/sinuses when you’re congested). There is no option to put a player on the DL for “dizziness” or “ear infection”, so Cinci had to put “stress related issues”. Cinci would never DL their best player if something wasn’t really wrong with him.
July 3rd, 20092:30 pm
Trade deadline is 7/31 but you can make trades after that. It’s just a lot harder to do. The problem is Huddy isn’t scheduled to be back until mid to late Aug which would mean there would be a gap if a trade was made that involved Javy.
Someone would have to step in as the 5th guy or else try to make do with a 4 man rotation which isn’t really an option.
Bobby’s Cox, I don’t want to see JV traded either. He is our one strikeout pitcher, plus he gives 7 innings almost everytime out. I think trading hime would also be hurting our BP. The BP innings would surely go up.
although not a big fan of the idea…i could see trading javy seeing as we have an abundance of pitching and i just get the feeling that javy is going to be as reliable as he has been this year
Joey Votto’s dad died. He suffered anxiety and depression issues as a result of that. Votto was hitting well over .300 when he went on the DL for his problem, so it seems pretty legit to me. He was pretty open about it upon his return. Khalil Greene says he’s had issues with anxiety for a long time. If anything, his poor play just made it worse.
My guess is that Kelly just stinks.
Let me say that I have never understood the reasoning behind everyone’s obsession with trading Javy Vasquez? The reason we traded for him back in the winter was to solidify our rotation with veteran inning-eating pitchers that would put the team in position to win. Frank Wren’s goal all along with Vasquez and Lowe was to bridge a two year gap between now and the time Hanson becomes our ace. Trading him would be a HUGE mistake.
All that said, Javy may now end up being the guy needed to pull off a major trade for a bat. I don’t think we can do it with Javy alone and we all would agree that we don’t want to part with Freeman, Heyward or Cody Johnson. So…it is so obvious that for us to make a blockbuster it will have to include Javy and Yunel Escobar.
July 3rd, 20092:31 pm
The Braves need to move a starting pitcher for a power bat. Everyone that keeps saying that they shouldn’t trade Vazquez should realize this team has a major hole with the lack power. The Braves are also very rich in the pitching department and can afford to move a guy like Vazquez. Vazquez also has a big contract so either he or Lowe would be the most logical choice to move.
July 3rd, 20092:32 pm
that is javy is NOT going to be…
July 3rd, 20092:33 pm
Dear A Bomb, Leyland would get along with Baghdad Bob if he could play. Grew up in Detroit so I also follow the Tigers(although Marlins have supplanted them as my favorite team–it’s an underdog thing). Magglio at this point can not pull a lefthander’s change on a 3-0 count if he was looking changeup. Man totally lost it OVERNIGHT. I’m not saying why!!!! You do not want Ordonez under any circumstances. As far as Thames, he is hot 3 out of every 20 games–where he is really hot. The Braves–unfortunately–are not dumb enough to want either one of these guys.
How about Jurrgens and Escobar for Ordonez and Thames–I can dream.
Vazquez has a no-trade clause to AL,NL West. He would have to agree to waive.
One of the things we have to consider when talking about trading Javy is that MOST teams have said they can’t and won’t take on salary. So now we have to find a player(s) that have a similar salary to Javy’s to swap for.
I looked at the Brewers and Cardnals and really don’t see much of a match.
Those of you looking for prospects better think again!
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