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TennesseePaul
June 30th, 2009
5:11 pm
Just like clockwork, Garret Anderson is heading into July hot. In his last 18 games he has hit .353/.375/.515. Probably why he’s been seen with his hands on his knees in the outfield. The man is tired. Usually gets to DH…
dogsbrekky (confused and demoralized by '09 baseball)
June 30th, 2009
5:12 pm
Anders – Italy was mighty fine, even accounting for all of the bloody Aussie tourists,
fair dinkum I met more Australians in 5 days in Cinque Terre then I have in 6 years in USA
Jason
June 30th, 2009
5:13 pm
This for DOB. If/and or when he pops backs in the blog. What is the feeling within the organization of starting Prado as a regular and making KJ the sub? Can not be worse than the results that have played out already?
Plus/Minus
June 30th, 2009
5:14 pm
I grade the blog as a -14 today.
Anders
June 30th, 2009
5:14 pm
BTW- Remember about a week or so ago when I asked if anyone else was worried about the Marlins sneaking up the back staircase? Many on here said they stink, can’t field etc..
Well what do you think now? Personally I don’t think they got the memo that they aren’t polished enough to compete for the division. I say they stick around all year.
dogsbrekky (confused and demoralized by '09 baseball)
June 30th, 2009
5:15 pm
Jeesh – I apologize to all for starting the Frenchy stats thing…
now we have upset God up here in NYC as it is howling down with the rain AGAIN (oh well I missed 14 days of it this month)
Anders
June 30th, 2009
5:16 pm
Dogsbrekky – Glad to hear it. You didn’t miss much here except the AL east anihilating the NL east.
THWG
June 30th, 2009
5:16 pm
Anders- I say the Fish stick around until their rotation gets too tired. They’ll fade come August/September.
Anders
June 30th, 2009
5:17 pm
Dogsbrekky – oh yeah, you missed our daily rainstorm too.
BBraves
June 30th, 2009
5:18 pm
If this was the lineup wonder how many more runs would be scored
1. McLouth
2. Prado
3. Chipper
4. McCann
5. Anderson
6. Escobar
7. Kotchman
8. Francoeur
WilliamG
June 30th, 2009
5:19 pm
WJones – while Cuba doesn’t have Little League it does have something that serves the same purpose – categoria pequena.
Anders
June 30th, 2009
5:19 pm
THWG- Please don’t mention fading in August/September to me. I get horrible flashbacks.
dogsbrekky (confused and demoralized by '09 baseball)
June 30th, 2009
5:19 pm
Anders – I actually got back a week ago so I did see our wondrous efforts ala Mr Beffrey “I will try to put my hand thru the wall” Jennett and our let’s try to kill Javier Vazquez with 1000 pitches in 100 degree heat trick…….. we suck but at least so do your ‘mucils.
I even felt sorry for the mutts kid at 1st base the other night, he now has a case of the cannot catch, throw and hit-itis
PWHjort
June 30th, 2009
5:20 pm
BBraves,
Not as many as this line-up:
1. McLouth
2. Prado
3. Chipper
4. McCann
5. Anderson
6. Escobar
7. Kotchman
8. Pitcher
9. Francoeur
Just limit Francoeur’s PA’s any way possible and we’ll score more runs.
JBoog1285
June 30th, 2009
5:20 pm
Scott, check back a few pages, lineup has been posted.
BBraves
June 30th, 2009
5:22 pm
PWHjort like it!!!! That is one way to take the pressure off Frenchy
Jurjjens Surgeons
June 30th, 2009
5:23 pm
“BTW- Remember about a week or so ago when I asked if anyone else was worried about the Marlins sneaking up the back staircase? Many on here said they stink, can’t field etc..
Well what do you think now? Personally I don’t think they got the memo that they aren’t polished enough to compete for the division. I say they stick around all year.”
Well, let’s see. They have one proven starter and he’s an injury concern. Their bullpen is iffy at best. They have one great offensive player and a lot of streaky, but mostly mediocre, offensive players.
Finally, similar things have been said about them “staying in it all year” in the past. Save two exceptions in their existence, they’ve NOT stayed in it. I think I’ll go out on a 10 foot wide, iron limb and say they’ll fade.
Blogger Formely Known as Unknown
June 30th, 2009
5:24 pm
This lineup would score the most runs:
1. CF McLouth
2. 2B Prado
3. 3B Chipper
4. C McCann
5. SS Escobar
6. LF Anderson
7. 1B Barbaro
8. RF Infante
dogsbrekky (confused and demoralized by '09 baseball)
June 30th, 2009
5:24 pm
Anders the good news on the rain front is it is NOT FORECAST to rain on July 4, the 7 days surrounding July 4, yes, but on July 4 we can expect partial cloud and a little thing called the SUN..
Rodney Derrick
June 30th, 2009
5:25 pm
18 Wheels– My problem is not so much reasonable criticism of Yunel, but the lack of acknowledgement of his super clutch play, and the DOUBLE STANDARD that allows deplorable play by KJ, Loaf Anderson, and Frenchy. I thing it is not unreasonable to think that Yunel wants to improve, but how would you feel if you saw the other players playing stupidly and loafing without accountability?
Anders
June 30th, 2009
5:26 pm
Dogsbrekky – Nothing the Mets can do with all these injuries. I’m hoping Minaya doesn’t panic and make a short term trade unless it only costs $’s. If I was Minaya regardless of what happens in the next couple of weeks I would see what the market for Sheffield is. He definetly has value on an AL team. I’d try to move him for something.
Robert (Chipper Is The Best)
June 30th, 2009
5:27 pm
PWH, that was wrong. Funny but wrong.
unbelievable
June 30th, 2009
5:27 pm
PWH, your lineup still sucks because Jeff is still in it. How Bobby can justify putting him in the lineup everyday is beyond me. Dont tell me he’s playing because we dont have replacements, when you’re the 2nd worst everyday RF in baseball making $4 mil you’re easily replaceable with just about anyone
Baba O'Riley
June 30th, 2009
5:28 pm
Larry,
I live in SoFla and the fans down here (all 264 of them) will gladly give you Fredi Gonzalez. It was embarrassing when he screwed up a double switch against the Yankees and Joe Girardi of all people called him on it. I’ll bet Beinfest loved that one. The Marlins have good young talent and incredible scouting. Most of their players came from other organizations. The key cogs drafted by Marlins were Hermida, Volstad, and Johnson. Most of the others came through trades and Rule 5.
jason
June 30th, 2009
5:29 pm
Rodney Derrick, I agree. I love Yunel. When I talk about him being traded, it’s not because I don’t appreciate all the talent heas, and all the plays he has made. Not even his passion whinch I like the most. When I talk about trading Yunel, it’s because he is on BC’s bad side. He doesn’t do things the Braves Way. You can’t do that and remain on BC’s team.
Baba O'Riley
June 30th, 2009
5:30 pm
I hope that some of these 2nd guessers are the first to show up and admit they’re wrong should the Braves score 5+ runs tonight. Secong guessing a HOF manager before the game is played is not smart.
the real Andy
June 30th, 2009
5:30 pm
weird. had a dream last night that andruw was back with the braves – and oddly enough it wasn’t a nightmare
jason
June 30th, 2009
5:31 pm
unbelievable, Maybe $4 mil is to much money sitting on the bench? That’s the only thing I can think of.
BBraves
June 30th, 2009
5:31 pm
Really glad to see Prado playing tonight hope that continues. Braves should just go ahead and trade Kelly for whatever they can get. I really did like Kelly but him and Frenchy have killed the offense. It is aggravating to watch a game knowing that there are better players on the bench than in the lineup. Would also like to see Brandon Jones up here playing. He doesn’t have any power but his average in AAA isn’t bad. Forget trading the farm to get a power hitting on a one year rently. Lets keep the propects and let them mature play with what we have and give Prado and B Jones a chance to play regularly.
richbrave
June 30th, 2009
5:32 pm
Hey ANDERS. Haven’t seen you post in awhile. Coming around to give us a boost so we sweep the FILTHIES?
Anders
June 30th, 2009
5:32 pm
Jurjjens Surgeon (really?) Did you read the blog?
The Marlins, meanwhile, are 16-11 with a .278 average and strong 3.86 ERA in June. They’ve got both quality pitching and the power bats that are coming around after a slow start. The Marlins have hit 29 homers this month, and they just won a series against the Yankees and swept series against Toronto and Baltimore since June 12 (DOB)
Just a lucky month I guess? I don’t think that limb is a wide as you hope.
jason
June 30th, 2009
5:32 pm
Baba O’Riley, You a reguale here? Second guessing BC is a favorite past time…. LOL !!!
Skeezix
June 30th, 2009
5:33 pm
Something to be positve about:
While we should commiserate about this impotent offense, we also should be looking forward to Huddy’s return. When he returns to form, the Braves are going to have one of the better rotations. If Wren can awaken from his coma and get us a couple of bats, then in 2010 the Braves should be fun to watch again.
Shamus Thacker
June 30th, 2009
5:34 pm
Nothing like sub-par barbecue and hot beer.
I could yap at any time…
Please move back; protect yourselves from a possible pyroclastic-barbecue/beer flow.
Baba O'Riley
June 30th, 2009
5:34 pm
BBraves that’s not a compelling argument for BJones. “He doesn’t have any power, but his average in AAA isn’t bad.”
dogsbrekky (confused and demoralized by '09 baseball)
June 30th, 2009
5:34 pm
the real Andy – I had a dream that Walt Weiss was young again and could play 2nd base and could actually hit,
oh how we look through the past with rose colored specs
Anders
June 30th, 2009
5:34 pm
richbrave – Hard to root for either. Kind of like when the Islanders played the Russians in the old Cold War days. Us Rangers fans rooted for ties and lots of injuries!
BTW- I’ve been here. Although with the summer holidays coming it will be off to the shore for awhile after tomorrow.
Robert (Chipper Is The Best)
June 30th, 2009
5:35 pm
Here’s what I’d say about Escobar. In a perfect world I would want him a Brave for his entire career. However, if he has a bad atttitude that could pervade the clubhouse and cause problems. Guys who are surly or hardheaded tend to poision a clubhouse or locker room. (See Terrell Owens). That is the dilema with a guy like Escobar. He makes the team better in one sense but because of his actions sometimes its addition by subtraction. Look at Milton Bradley. He walks on a field and is usually one of the best two or three players on the field but his bad attitude has caused him to move around. His attitude poisons clubhouses.
jason
June 30th, 2009
5:36 pm
Skeezix, Nothing against Huddy, can’t wait until he returns, but we already have on =e of the best staffs in Baseball. It’s like #3.
cvbraves
June 30th, 2009
5:36 pm
DOB: Kris Medlen is listed as a swithhitter on the roster. If that is true, I would think Bobby and Roger would rather him bat right to protect his pitching arm rather than left. Few times I’ve seen hin bat, he has batted left. Just concerned for him, hate to see him expose that nice arm if not necessary.
Frank from KS (now living in CO)
June 30th, 2009
5:36 pm
Anders re: your 5:19 p.m. “THWG- Please don’t mention fading in August/September to me. I get horrible flashbacks.”
With all due respect Anders……that was funny..(LOL) with the way the Mets have (can we all say?) lost it in August and September here recently.
Baba O'Riley
June 30th, 2009
5:36 pm
jason- I seldom, if ever hear someone say “I was wrong, Bobby was right”. It’s easy to second guess everything he does. Some people throw 10 pounds of @^%$ on the wall, but only mention the 3 ounces that stick.
Tony
June 30th, 2009
5:37 pm
While you are sitting there managing like the rest of us from armchairs, the Braves have to make some moves. Nobody has noticed that Jeff and Garrett are just not getting it done except for occasional streaks or glimmers of hope. I’ll reiterate a trade with Schaeffer or Frenchy for Pierre or comparable outfielder who will get on base, steal bases, and score runs in front of Chipper and B Mac…any suggestions. This is the major leagues, teams have to keep up or go home.
nolie
June 30th, 2009
5:38 pm
Anxiety disorder -
Jesus! What would Mantle say? (Knucksie)
“Toss back a few more beers, kid”
jason
June 30th, 2009
5:38 pm
Baba O’Riley, That’s about the norm around here.
David O'Brien
June 30th, 2009
5:39 pm
Escobar took himself out of the lineup, told Cox (or the trainer) that he couldn’t go. I asked, he said it’s “not good.” But he took infield and hit….
McLouth ALSO out, even though he said as he was coming off field that he was still good to go. Maybe he misunderstood our question. Anyway, he talked to Cox after BP, told him it’s not 100 percent yet but he could play. Cox decided otherwise.
SO THE LINEUP (which originally had McLouth and Escobar at the top)
1. Blanco, CF
2. Prado, 2B
3. Chipper
4. McCann
5. Anderson
6. Kotchman
7. Francoeur
8. Hernandez, SS
9. Lowe
jason
June 30th, 2009
5:39 pm
Again with trading Schaefer. Pretty soon it will be Freeman and then Heyward.
K with a K
June 30th, 2009
5:40 pm
Does anyone else think it is time to move Chipper to 1st. He is making way to many errors this year. I would love to move Kotchman for what ever and then move J.Vazquez and a couple prospects for the Brewers M.Gamle(spelling) put it’s their 3rd base prospect. I think it could work if we leave Chip at 3rd move Kotchman and move Mac to 1st and start David Ross behind the plate. I think it is time to move Bobby to his Adairsville farm and move Joe Simpson from the booth to the bench.
joe
June 30th, 2009
5:40 pm
DOB,
Yikes! Time to knock back a few beers.
jason
June 30th, 2009
5:41 pm
And we start the series off with a loss, unless Lowe can no-hit…. AGhhhh who am I kidding?
Frank from KS (now living in CO)
June 30th, 2009
5:41 pm
dogsbrekky
I think I seen you mention something (can’t remember the post at all) but you said something about Greg Norman.
I don’t agree with him leaving his wife for someone else…..but if he’s gonna do it, might as well cheat up and not down….and he definately did that with Chris Evert who’s definately gotten better with age.
Willy Wally
June 30th, 2009
5:41 pm
Anyway, who cares? He’s a downright terrible hitter and in all likelihood an average-ish defender. (STEVE FROM OH)
LOL. I was just thinking this same thing. Ran over to the store for a bit, and was thinking about it, and was like why the hell am I bothering thinking about this guy anymore, he flat out sucks.
If I were Frenchy, I’d be terribly concerned that they’re not benching me or demoting me. The fact that they are playing me everyday tells me they’ve given up on me, but just have little alternatives to me. But I bet that’s never crossed his mind. Demoting or benching him would be a sign that they’re still trying to change him, still think they can get through to him, still think he’s worth fighting for or with to make him a better player.
It’s like my dad always told me, the day you find your woman ain’t fighting with you, or for you, is the day she’s decided she’s gonna leave you because she’s finally realized she can’t change you, so she’ll just settle for what you are until something better comes along
Anders
June 30th, 2009
5:43 pm
So your SS and CF’er are out tonight. I’d like to say I feel bad for you guys but…..
joe
June 30th, 2009
5:44 pm
Let’s hope Blanco and Prado have a good game with a couple hits each. I don’t understand what’s happened to Gregor. He was better than this last year.
jhpm
June 30th, 2009
5:44 pm
What an enemic lineup lol
Steve from OH
June 30th, 2009
5:44 pm
I think it is time to move Bobby to his Adairsville farm and move Joe Simpson from the booth to the bench.
I simply cannot fathom this statement. I don’t even think Robert hates Cox this much.
David O'Brien
June 30th, 2009
5:44 pm
I grade the blog as a -14 today. — Plus/Minus
The committee is in agreement: Worst comment of the day, when taken into consideration that it was both inane and lacking any semblance of humor. Well done, Plus/Minus.
BBraves
June 30th, 2009
5:44 pm
Baba O’Riley
Brandon Jones has a decent OPS drives in runs and hits for a decent average. He also plays pretty good defense. Would like to see him given a shot to see what he could do. Better than some of the players on the roster than continue to strike out. At lease by getting on base the team has a chance to score runs.
jhpm
June 30th, 2009
5:45 pm
I think Joe Simpson would make an EXCELLENT manager .
the real Andy
June 30th, 2009
5:45 pm
ouch, no mclouth and no escobar. ugh.
jason
June 30th, 2009
5:46 pm
Baba O’Riley
Can’t second guess Bobby tonight. Apparently his hands are tied.
jason
June 30th, 2009
5:46 pm
One more injury and KJ will play. Prado, How’s the groin?
biff pocahontas,,uh roba
June 30th, 2009
5:47 pm
willy wally, they like playing guys they’re about to trade, and hoping frenchy will be at least average in the process…
i’m telling ya, he’ll be gone, just not soon enough…
Blogger Formely Known as Unknown
June 30th, 2009
5:47 pm
The crappy little lineup again. Braves lose 7-0. Ballgame!
Shamus Thacker
June 30th, 2009
5:47 pm
Don’t worry bout us Anders, you got enough to worry about yourself…
Like the suckadellic Muts…
jhpm
June 30th, 2009
5:48 pm
Lowe hasn’t exactly been lights out lol
David O'Brien
June 30th, 2009
5:48 pm
And on top of everything else, Francoeur didn’t wear the underwear today. I know, I know. Dude goes out of his way to tell us he wore them Sunday and he’s going to wear them today, then doesn’t wear them. Said he went to the lake yesterday, got home and they were in the wash today, so he didn’t wear them….
By the way, we were watching the Gwinnett Braves game in Cox’s auxiliary office by the dugout, just after he’d finished his radio show, when Schafer hit a home run — after Gorecki hit a grand slam in same inning.
THWG
June 30th, 2009
5:48 pm
It still bothers me that BC was going to put Esco in the 2 hole…
Baba O'Riley
June 30th, 2009
5:49 pm
Was just commenting on your endorsement earlier. Yes, I know he has “better than average” MINOR LEAGUE numbers. my opinion…he’s a 4A player. I would like to see Reid Gorecki get at least a cup of coffee in Atlanta. He’s been a favorite of mine since his days with the Palm Beach Cardinals. He’s a great defensive outfielder, but his offense is not up to par. Great guy.
Kentavo
June 30th, 2009
5:50 pm
OMG, Lowe better not have one of his Walkfests tonite.
kirkinga
June 30th, 2009
5:50 pm
Good for Escobar.
Though comparing him to Terrell Owens or Milton Bradley is bizarre. Maybe I’m missing something, but I don’t see the comparison between him and those two. If there is, then there is alot of information we haven’t been privy to I think.
Btw..all clubhouses are not the same.
jmart1951
June 30th, 2009
5:51 pm
Question: Now that Gwinett is so close toThe Ted, could a player play in Gwinett in the afternoon and then again at The Ted that night?
jhpm
June 30th, 2009
5:51 pm
DOB:
Has Franceour ever hear of using a clothes dryer?
Foggy Notion
June 30th, 2009
5:53 pm
Awesome song and live clip with the Boss. If I were to get a Gaslight Anthem albums is that (’59 Sound) the one to get?
Shamus Thacker
June 30th, 2009
5:53 pm
Frenchy, sans turkey-drawers, should be yanked from the lineup.
Baba O'Riley
June 30th, 2009
5:53 pm
Joel Youngblood played for 2 different major league teams on the same day. I believe it was ‘82.
K with a K
June 30th, 2009
5:53 pm
I would love this line-up
McLouth CF
Escobar SS
Chipper 3B
McCann 1B
Diaz/B.Jones LF
Ross C
Prado 2B
Schafer/Frenchy RF
I don’t hate Bobby just think it’s time for a change. Think Joe is a great baseball mind, from listening to him talk.
Willy Wally
June 30th, 2009
5:54 pm
Does Francoeur even need to clean his underwear? It’s not like he gets all sweaty running bases he never gets on
Chop Chop
June 30th, 2009
5:56 pm
Francoeur’s Turkey Underwear Saga epitomizes this team.
Granted, I don’t even know what that means, but it sounds right to me.
biff pocahontas,,uh roba
June 30th, 2009
5:56 pm
tell frenchy to wear a garter belt. didn’t it work for nuke laloosh. and make sure the flower is in the front…
wasn’t that his name??
Plus/Minus
June 30th, 2009
5:57 pm
No humor eh? Would you have rather that I said all this talk about Schafer’s hand position and UZR ratings were boring the hell out of me??
Willy Wally
June 30th, 2009
5:57 pm
RIP, VIBE magazine
TBrown
June 30th, 2009
5:58 pm
No undies, No Esco & McL – time to drink
Robert (Chipper Is The Best)
June 30th, 2009
5:59 pm
I wasn’t necessarily comparing him to those guys. I was meaning in the sense of somebody who has a bad attitude or doesn’t listen to instruction or refuses to follow the lead of the vets. And I don’t care what type of clubhouse you have if there is a guy who has a bad attitude or doesn’t listen then that clubhouse will get poisoned.
Anders
June 30th, 2009
5:59 pm
Joel Youngblood played for 2 different major league teams on the same day. I believe it was ‘82. (Baba)
You forgot that it was in two different cities. Other guys have been traded between double headers . For anyone under 30 that’s when teams played two games in the same day and you only had to buy one ticket.
Plus/Minus
June 30th, 2009
6:00 pm
Or whether Bobby Cox’ lineup either sucked, or stunk? I stand by my -14 grade.
Rob from SC
June 30th, 2009
6:00 pm
for those who saw the Schafer Homerun, where was the pitch location.
biff pocahontas,,uh roba
June 30th, 2009
6:00 pm
Gorecki isn’t labeled, is he? you know the label, “prospect”… you no labeled, you play in the bigs.. at least that’s what happened to me…that, and i i was slower than malasses, couldn’t hit,
Salamander
June 30th, 2009
6:00 pm
Escobar took himself out of the lineup, told Cox (or the trainer) that he couldn’t go. I asked, he said it’s “not good.” But he took infield and hit… DOB
He took himself out of the lineup? So he was kinda being punished the past few games, and was probably well enough to be in the lineup, but now that he has rested (after taking BP today and all), he can’t go?
Smells damn fishy.
Not saying you’re hiding something DOB – just seems really odd to me unless he aggravated it today I suppose… color me skeptical.
Chop Chop
June 30th, 2009
6:01 pm
Maybe Yunel decided to bench himself for a little while? That’ll show ‘em.
Steve from OH
June 30th, 2009
6:01 pm
Inside fastball, Rob
MiltonDawg
June 30th, 2009
6:02 pm
lineup looks rough, i’m not sold on it either. here’s to hoping the day off actually benefits them this time. if francouer does the turkey boxers ritual, can we sacrifice one on the field to put him out?
Rob from SC
June 30th, 2009
6:02 pm
Steve from OH
was it really?
Supes
June 30th, 2009
6:04 pm
Yunel needs to SUCK IT UP.
He’s either really, really hurt (but then why take infield and BP)? or he’s still “benched”…or he is saying he’s “hurt” to stick it to BOBBY COX who “benched him’.
We need him in the lineup. Hernadez is inferior defensively with a weaker arm, and can’t hit worth a lick.
McLouth out hurts even more…as Blanco wouldn’t even be employed by 95% of major league teams b/c he flat out sucks, has a noodle arm and can’t hit to save his life, plus he doesn’t utilize his speed well.
Braves are in deep trouble without Esco and Nate in the lineup.
Hey…at least KJ is OUT OF THERE!
Now if Matt Diaz was playing instead of Jeff…we may have a fighting chance:)
Anders
June 30th, 2009
6:04 pm
for those who saw the Schafer Homerun, where was the pitch location. (Rob from SC)
Since the worst comment of the day award was given out already by DOB I suggest the “Trying to Hard” award for this one.
I mean – come on. Really.
Salamander
June 30th, 2009
6:05 pm
Maybe Yunel decided to bench himself for a little while? That’ll show ‘em
I don’t want to think there could be any truth to this statement at all, but… it looks weird the way this has gone down with him and Cox over the past few days.
TommyP
June 30th, 2009
6:06 pm
Anders: I don’t get it. The guy wants to know where the pitch was. Really.
dogsbrekky (confused and demoralized by '09 baseball)
June 30th, 2009
6:06 pm
Franks KS – I still have nightmares about 1996
The Shark’s ultrachoke in “The Masters” and well you know the rest
wjones
June 30th, 2009
6:06 pm
Can Frenchy do nothing right? If it’s lucky underwear, YOU DON’T WASH IT UNTIL YOU LOSE! He can’t even get being superstitious right! What a f-up!
YUNIFAN
June 30th, 2009
6:06 pm
Yunel took BP on Friday too…I was there…