Lowe has rebounded before

  Those who are pushing the panic button on Derek Lowe since he got shellacked last night for the second time in three starts, you might want to pause a moment and consider his history.
  Not to say he will bounce back and reel off a torrid stretch from now until the end of the season, but Lowe has endured similar skids in recent seasons and done precisely that.
  Let’s start with the current slump: He’s 0-3 with a 12.34 ERA and .433 opponents’ average in his past three starts, after going 7-3 with a 3.44 ERA and .240 opponents’ average in his first 13 starts.
  Those three-game stats are heinous, no doubt. But remember, he didn’t pitch badly in the middle game of that skid, actually turning in a quality start Saturday at Boston when he allowed seven hits and three runs in 6-1/3 innings, including one hit through four innings.

D-Lowe has reached a low

D-Lowe has reached a low

  It’s just that Josh Beckett was far more than “quality” that day, throwing a five-hit shutout with no walks against the Braves to improve to 5-0 with an otherworldly 0.45 ERA and .152 opponents’ average in his past six starts against the Braves, including five scoreless outings.
  Did we mention that Beckett will toe the slab for the Sox tonight in the series opener at Turner Field against Jair Jurrjens? Yes, it’ll be interesting. Beckett is 6-1 with a 2.15 ERA in his past nine starts this season. Good thing Jurrjens gets such good run support usually (sarcasm dripping from sentence).
  Anyway, back to Lowe. He’s 0-3 with a 12.34 ERA in his past three starts, all interleague games, including two at Baltimore and last night against the Yankees in which he failed to record more than nine outs or get even a single strikeout.
  In those two games, he gave up 13 earned runs and 19 hits in a combined 5-1/3 innings. Really awful stuff, no doubt.
  Last season with the Dodgers, he went through a four-game stretch in May where he was 0-3 with a 9.28 ERA and .345 opponents’ average. Granted, he went at least five innings in each of those (though never more than six), and he had at least three strikeouts in each, but it was still pretty bad.
  But after giving up 10 hits and seven runs in five innings on May 18 in his third consecutive loss, Lowe ran off five consecutive starts of at least seven innings, with two earned runs or fewer in four and three runs in the other.
  After that four-game stretch of 0-3 with a 9.28 ERA, he was 12-7 with a 2.49 and .223 ERA in 24 starts for the remainder of the season, with 108 strikeouts and 28 walks.
  Two seasons before that, Lowe had a five-start slump in which he was 1-4 with a 9.59 ERA and .402 opponents’ average, with eight walks and 14 strikeouts in 25-1/3 innings. He lasted 5-1/3 innings or fewer in three of those games, and gave up 12 hits and nine earned runs in one start at Minnesota, and 11 hits in two others.
  So what’d he do after that? Lowe went 9-1 with a 2.79 ERA in his 14 remaining starts in 2006, with 55 strikeouts and 15 walks in 87 innings.
  We bring this to your attention only to note that, if he turns it around now and is strong for the remainder of the season, it would be the third time in four seasons that Lowe has bounced back from a multi-game skid and gone on to have a successful season.
  He’s older, yes. And sweats a lot, which is worse in Atlanta than in L.A. or Boston. (OK, just seeing if you’re still with us.) And two games in this skid are particularly dreadful. But he’s a hard worker, wiser than he’s ever been as a pitcher, and it’s not going to surprise me if he bounces back in in one of his next few starts and begins a strong run of starts.
  But I’m not making any predictions.

 

  ♣ Who’ll represent Braves in St. Louis? At the All-Star Game, that is. Every team has to have at least one player on the NL squad, and with Lowe off the radar and Javier Vazquez and Jair Jurrjens pitching great but lacking wins due to criminally poor run support, the Braves might not get more than one or two reps.
  I think Brian McCann’s pretty much a lock, despite his slow start and eventual DL stint for vision problems. He’s made the All-Star team in each of his first three full seasons — first Brave to do that  – and that resume itself earns him consideration.
  What he’s done since returning from the DL has been absolutely impressive, adjusting to playing in glasses for the first time while hitting .362 with 10 doubles, six homers, 24 RBI and a 1.012 OPS in 41 games since he got back.
  For the season, McCann is hitting .324 with eight homers, 31 RBI and a .950 OPS in 182 at-bats in 54 games. In a season when few NL catchers are putting up their best offensive numbers, McCann’s stats should be enough to earn him one of the two catching spots on the NL team even if he weren’t a three-time All-Star.
  San Francisco’s Bengie Molina has 10 homers and 41 RBI in 250 at-bats, though he’s hitting .260 with just a .711 OPS. Houston’s Pudge Rodriguez has six homers and 29 RBI, but he’s hitting .254 with a .686 OPS.
 No other NL catcher should even be in the conversation. Mac couldn’t have picked a better year to have an early season DL stint and still have a strong chance to make the All-Star team.
If the Braves have two All-Stars, their other strongest possibility — besides Vazquez (5-6, 3.18 ERA) and Jurrjens (5-5, 2.89 ERA, who are deserving but I’m afraid will get overlooked unfairly because of won-lost records — would be reliever Rafael Soriano.
  This is a team that has no hitters in the NL’s top 10 in average, OPS (McCann doesn’t have at-bats to qualify yet) or slugging, and no pitchers near the top in wins (15 pitchers have seven or more wins including Lowe, who’s tied with seven others for eighth with seven wins, but who has the second-highest ERA in the league this month).
  Despite Vazquez ranking second in the NL in strikeouts (117) and opponents’ OBP (.269) and fifth in opponents’ average (.228), and despite Jurrjens ranking sixth in ERA, the Braves’ best All-Star pitching hope may be their co-closer Soriano, who is having a terrific season after his injury-riddled 2008.
  Among NL relievers, he’s third in ERA (1.34), second in strikeouts (46), seventh in fewest hits per nine innings (5.35) and 10th in baserunners per nine innings (9.1).
  His .172 opponents’ average includes a stunning, majors-leading .059 (3-for-51) with runners on base, and .050 (1-for-20) with runners in scoring position.
  As for Chipper Jones, if he doesn’t make it (and I don’t think he will), part of the reason might be the lack of pitches he sees with runners on base.
  The Braves have gotten little production from the bottom half of their order, and even when McCann’s batting behind him, pitchers are extremely careful pitching to Jones.
 He’s had only one RBI in his past 15 games. Part of that was the funk he went through, and part of that is because Jones has been walked 21 times with runners in scoring position this season. He’s hitting .368 (14-for-38) with RISP, with 21 walks and a .575 OBP.
 With RISP and two outs, he’s 8-for-14 (.571) with two homers, nine walks, no strikeouts and a .739 OBP.

 ♦ Oh, before I forget: Braves announced that standing-room only tickets are available for tonight and Saturday, for $20. Regular seats are still available for Sunday’s series finale with the Red Sox. Order in advance at braves.com/tickets or walk up.
  There, I’ve done by public service. James McMurtry would probably hate that I did that.

“MEMORIAL DAY” by James McMurtry

Mama keeps tryin` to get the game on the radio
Daddy`s gotta know the score
There`s a big yellow thing on a flat bed trailer
Wonder what that thing`s for
We got towels rolled up in the back seat window
Keeping us out of the sun
Just a hundred more miles and we`ll be at grandma`s
Sure is gonna be fun
Maybe she`ll take us fishin`
Maybe she`ll bake us a pie
Remember like she did that one time
Back before grandpa died

It`s Memorial Day in America
Everybody`s on the road
Let`s remember our fallen heroes
Y`all be sure and drive slow

Ninety eight degrees in the shade of the tool shed
Can`t go back in the house
They`re all in the kitchen yellin` ‘bout something
Don`t know what it`s about
Joey ‘n Mary said not to worry
Said it`s just the same old fight
Happens whenever they all get together
Everything`s really alright

It`s Memorial Day in America
This is how it`s supposed to be
Let`s remember our fallen heroes
In the land of the free

Daddy`s in the big chair sippin` on a cold beer
Grandma`s cuttin` a switch
She overheard Mary cussin` her brother
Called him a son of a bitch
She got a good green limb off a sweet gum sapling
Man that`s bound to sting
But Mary don`t cry just stands there and takes it
Doesn`t seem to feel a thing
No Mary don`t cry, you know she`s a big girl
Wonder what made her so mad
She takes those licks looking in through the den door
Staring right straight at her dad

There`s a big yellow thing on a flat bed trailer
Daddy nearly hit that bird
They`re both in the front seat
Starin` right straight ahead
Neither one saying a word
The sun`s going down in the rear view mirror
Gonna be driving all night
Wonder if the neighbor`s fed the canary
Wonder if the cat`s alright

 

 

3,705 comments Add your comment

BraveNewWorld

June 26th, 2009
3:00 pm

He is going to have to pitch like he did in the final month last year if he wants to bring that ugly era down.

McFann Ô

June 26th, 2009
3:02 pm

SC Ace

June 26th, 2009
3:03 pm

Are we going to see Prado in there again? Sure hope so…

rlinaug

June 26th, 2009
3:04 pm

Is KJ in the lineup or Prado? Please say Prado.

McFann Ô

June 26th, 2009
3:04 pm

Boo-yah…

Thanks for the new Blog, Chief!

BraveNewWorld

June 26th, 2009
3:05 pm

Hopefully Jurrjens can have a bounce back game. He hasn’t pitched as well as he did at the start of the year.

Chucktown Brave

June 26th, 2009
3:06 pm

Crazy Trades McGee

June 26th, 2009
3:06 pm

The braves should trade Derek Lowe for Jason Marquis

tale of woe

June 26th, 2009
3:09 pm

Take Frenchy and the Crotch out of the line-up and I liked what we put out there last night. Hopefully Bobby will be as creative tonight. We are going to need to score lots of runs this weekend

Barrington

June 26th, 2009
3:09 pm

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Barrington

June 26th, 2009
3:09 pm

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The Truth

June 26th, 2009
3:10 pm

34-38. 90 games of the season to go, but that isn’t the number that should concern you bloggers. 31 is. That is the number of games until the trading deadline. i bet Franklin Wren will listen to what I have been sayin:

TRADE SORIANO

TRADE GONZO

TRADE VASQUEZ

Get back prospects that can help in 2010 and beyond.

TEST

June 26th, 2009
3:11 pm

BraveNewWorld

June 26th, 2009
3:12 pm

The Truth Why would you trade Gonzo or Soriano? We would have absolutely no pen…

Barrington

June 26th, 2009
3:12 pm

WHEN IS FRANK WREN GOING TO REALIZE THAT THE PLAYERS AREN’T THE MAIN PROBLEM?

THE ONLY CONSTANT THROUGHOUT THE LAST 3 1/2 YEARS IS BOBBY COX. WHEN IS BOBBY COX’S JOB GOING TO COME INTO QUESTION?

DOB, ARE YOU MAN ENOUGH TO ANSWER THE QUESTION? PROBABLY NOT, WUSS!

Shaun

June 26th, 2009
3:12 pm

The Truth, you are aware how many games back the Braves are, right?

Shaun

June 26th, 2009
3:13 pm

Barrington, hmmm…Cox was a constant from 1991-2005 and the Braves did just fine. How long have you been watching baseball? Five minutes?

Original Jon

June 26th, 2009
3:13 pm

Barrington, actually the only constant thing throughout has been Jeff Francouer.

Salamander

June 26th, 2009
3:14 pm

Like I said last night, I expect the Braves to be swept by the Red Sox this weekend, before bouncing back to take 2 of 3 from the Phillies.

jason

June 26th, 2009
3:14 pm

Kotchman is playing. To great of defense. Francouer should play given that he has been producing of late.
CF McLouth
2B KJ
3B Chip
C BMac
SS Yuney
LF Loaf
RF Frenchy
1B Kotchman
I am going the same as last night, even with KJ starting. At least KJ can advance the runner with a bunt.

Barrington

June 26th, 2009
3:14 pm

Michael Jackson,

How would you like it if someone made jokes about your dead dad or brother? You’re an indiot and I hope you burn in hell, as*sshole!

Supes

June 26th, 2009
3:15 pm

Any chance Yunel makes it as a backup?

Rollings and Reyes haven’t had “their usual type seasons” so far.

Ramirez is a lock, looking at the NL Central…nobody stands out. NL West…Tulowitski, Furcal?

Yunel stacks up against anyone else not named Ramirez in stats.

Interested Observer

June 26th, 2009
3:15 pm

Smoltz, Glavine, Maddux were constant, Bobby was along for the ride. Baseball teams with those 3 could win without even having a manager.

tommy hanson fan

June 26th, 2009
3:16 pm

we overrate the braves talent..or at least i have

getsomewins

June 26th, 2009
3:16 pm

I hope Prado gets in the lineup. He’s ready to take over the everyday 2b position. Trade KJ for middle relief help now.

Barrington

June 26th, 2009
3:17 pm

Shaun,

I’ve been here for ALL the division titles. You must be an individual who doesn’t think managing skills have the possibility to decline? What you can do at 25, you probably won’t be able to do at 75! My point is his managing skills have declined.

MiltonDawg

June 26th, 2009
3:17 pm

can Cox get ejected early and start a fire for this lack of hitting team like Giradi did for the Yanks? My lord, that awoke the lion. we’ll be lucky to win a game in this series.

Patron Saint of the Lost Art

June 26th, 2009
3:18 pm

Umm Barrington, most journalists have to use something called “tact” during interviews…though this idea is lost on many bloggers here.

The Truth

June 26th, 2009
3:19 pm

hey Shaun – who cares how many games back the Braves are? The Mutts will get Reyes, Delgado and Beltran back within the month and the Phillies will get Ibanez back. Who are the Braves getting back? Jeffrey “punch a wall cuz it don’t hit back” Bennett? It don’t matter cuz the Braves will be back further than that in 3 weeks. Franklin Wren will make the right move.

Wayne in Utah

June 26th, 2009
3:19 pm

Barrington

You need to lay off the caffeine, brother!

Salamander

June 26th, 2009
3:19 pm

Barrington (and others)

The Caps Lock key is not cruise control for cool.

Also, you have some real quality ideas – lets get the Braves’ beat writer to attack the manager of the team he is covering. Sounds like a great plan for everyone involved.

Go bump another line and have a nice weekend!

MiltonDawg

June 26th, 2009
3:20 pm

Bennett should’ve hit KJ, then you would’ve had 2 players down in DL. start Prado asap. any eta on Infante yet? 2 weeks left?

Chucktown Brave

June 26th, 2009
3:20 pm

No kidding, MiltonDawg…Before ejection 0 runs in 14 1/3 innings… After ejection, 19 runs in 12 2/3 innings.

Salamander

June 26th, 2009
3:22 pm

Wayne – You need to lay off the caffeine, brother!

You comment wasn’t directed at me, but I admit it… I’m a coffee junkie. Too many long nights trying to get work done… love coffee.

Shaun

June 26th, 2009
3:23 pm

Barrington, how do you determine that his managing skills have declined so much that he’s no longer capable of being a major league manager? Obviously the team hasn’t acquired players as talented as the ones they acquired in the glory days. So how do we know that this isn’t the culprit for the Braves not winning a division title since 2005 and that it’s all Bobby Cox?

I just believe Cox deserves to be here as long as he wants to be and as long as players still have the utmost respect and admiration for him.

If Cox were that bad a manager, it would be obvious to more than a fringe crowd. Horrible strategic managers don’t reach and stay in the big leagues. Managers simply don’t make that much of a difference. If they are so bad that they do make a huge difference, they never reach the big leagues in the first place.

MiltonDawg

June 26th, 2009
3:23 pm

exactly chucktown- i need cox kicking dirt or throwing bats and gatorade coolers on the field. but, do you think our players will actually get the message?

Wayne in Utah

June 26th, 2009
3:23 pm

OK, so Girardi gets tossed (on purpose). It lights a fire under some of his players. What happened when those players woke up the next day to find that their manager faked that ejection to get them fired up.

If that were me, I would be a tad bit ashamed of my professionalism.

Burdell

June 26th, 2009
3:24 pm

From Previous Blog…

You can’t really go from being a closer to starter in the middle of a season. Would need to stretch out your arm for the additional innings required.

Those are two different things. No one is suggesting that Hudson could be a closer on Monday and start on Wednesday – but if the Braves got halfway through the season and had major injuries to the rotation and the pen seems alright, they could send him down to the minors for 10-15 days and stretch him out. You’d have to figure that if he’s been throwing all season he’d be OK to go 3 innings (on rest) in the first minor league start, then 5 days later stretch him out to 4 innings, then 5 days later stretch him to 5 innings, then give him a start. I’m not saying that it would be easy or that its anything more than in “in case of emergency break glass” situation, but it wouldn’t be the first time that was done.

Wayne in Utah

June 26th, 2009
3:26 pm

Salamander

If the shoe fits….

:-)

Strike Out-field

June 26th, 2009
3:26 pm

“The braves should trade Derek Lowe for Jason Marquis”

It is taking a lot of will power right now to not reporting this comment. Such blatent use of profanity will not be tolerated. Kiss your mother with that mouth?

The Truth

June 26th, 2009
3:27 pm

hey Shaun –

why don’t you respond. That’s cuz you know it to be true. The Braves will be more than 4 games back by the All star break and Franklin Wren will field calls for the TWO BEST relief pitchers on the market!

Heath (Cleveland)

June 26th, 2009
3:27 pm

I hope the Prado is in good enough shape to see the exact same lineup as last night. We should find out here pretty soon….what’s the word DOB?

Barrington

June 26th, 2009
3:27 pm

This is to all the idiots still drinking the Bobby Cox koolaid,

Bobby Cox IS the problem with this team. The Braves need to go in a different direction. In sports, there comes a time when managers and players must leave. NOW is the time for Cox to leave. It just is. I’m sorry that so many of you want Cox to manage unti he’s 90 but I’m a realist. To anyone with proper prospective, it’s obvious that Cox needs to go. Stop being delusional!

Wayne in Utah

June 26th, 2009
3:29 pm

So it wasn’t Bobby that had anything to do with all those good seasons, between 1991 and 2005, huh. BUT, when the wheels fall off, it is all Bobby’s fault now??

When a team wins, it’s the players, but when a team loses, it’s the manager. Think I heard that one before….

The Braves Beat with Rick Springfield

June 26th, 2009
3:30 pm

The sky is falling … the Reds have traded for the Corky Miller

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/06/norris-hopper-traded-for-corky-miller.html

I thought I saw him working at Lowe’s last weekend.

rob from SC (Yunel Escobar's Muscle)

June 26th, 2009
3:30 pm

The Truth

I like what your thinking but would make some adjustments for Frank Wren

1. Trade Derek Lowe

2. Offer Soriano/Gonzalez contract extensions and sign the first one to accept the offer. Then you can trade the other one.
I would love to re-sign both but that is not possible with our limited payroll.

I think Vazquez is the better pitcher for the next 3 years than Lowe. I like the fact that he can strikeout the opposition when in a jam.

We don’t need to acquire rental player. Acquire top prospects that can make an impact by the end of 2010.

timthebrave

June 26th, 2009
3:30 pm

Heading down to the ol ballfield for tonights game. After going 5 and 0 in my first 5 at turner field, I am 0 and 2 including last nights loss. Need to get back to our winning ways but will be really tough against beckett. Go Braves!

CLE

June 26th, 2009
3:30 pm

Hahaha @ Michael Jackson’s post. Very nice!

Lamar1Banks2

June 26th, 2009
3:31 pm

I hope Yunel gets to make the all-star team. His numbers stack up with any SS in the NL and that includes Hanley Ramirez.

Chop Chop

June 26th, 2009
3:31 pm

If our players’ love for Bobby makes them willing to run through a brick wall for him, why aren’t they willing (or able) to play the game with intelligence from one day to the next?

That’s the problem with this team.

dmack2027

June 26th, 2009
3:31 pm

DOB,

Do you get any sense about what the Braves are planning with regards to Soriano or Gonzo as far as closing next year?

Anyone expecting a contract extension to one, followed by a trade of the other?

RHR

June 26th, 2009
3:31 pm

DOB better hope that D-Lowe is blissfully unaware of The Curse of DOB or else he might just get knocked the hell out next time he sees him. :lol:

Wayne in Utah

June 26th, 2009
3:31 pm

The Truth

Why don’t we just let the team play out the next few weeks, and I suspect things will become more clear on whether we should be buyers or sellers. I have no problem with it either way.

Salamander

June 26th, 2009
3:32 pm

Barrington

You’re making some BIG assumptions about everyone who posts on this blog. Some people support Cox and want him to mange into the future, others (like me) are ready for the Braves to go in a new direction management-wise.

That being said, the decision is not going to be made until the offseason – why get your panties in a twist in June? Besides, Cox might very well be brought back next year. I don’t agree with him being at the helm in 2010, but its possible he will be… so be prepared.

Chop Chop

June 26th, 2009
3:32 pm

After all, Bobby has always been a stickler for his teams playing the game the right way. This team does not do that. This is a disconnect that needs to be addressed.

Shaun

June 26th, 2009
3:32 pm

The Truth, actually I don’t know it to be true. Braves could be two games out, they could be eight games out. Who knows?

Barrington, It’s very easy for you to throw out your thoughts and not back it up with anything resembling evidence to support the fact that Bobby Cox has declined so much that he shouldn’t be a major league manager. How about using his overall track record and his reputation among virtually everyone in baseball who has been around him instead of relying on your own ideas which you haven’t dug into very well.

Burdell

June 26th, 2009
3:34 pm

The ideal lineup for tonight:

Jordan Schafer (CF)
Kelly (2B)
Thorman (1B)
Norton (3B)
Loaf Anderson (LF)
Francoeur (RF)
Corky (C)
Lillibridge (SS)
Jo-Jo (P)

I could see your heads explode from here.

jj

June 26th, 2009
3:34 pm

Hey Supes,I have been asking the same question about Escabor and why the Braves have not been pushing him for the ALSGame.If you look at stats there are only 2 shortstops in NL playing better,the guy in Fla and Tejada in Houston.Escabor numbers are better than Chipper’s.I guess it’s Personality over Production.The poor guy is already underpaid,at least they ought to promote him for the ALSTAR TEAM.

RHR

June 26th, 2009
3:35 pm

34-38. 90 games of the season to go, but that isn’t the number that should concern you bloggers. 31 is. That is the number of games until the trading deadline. i bet Franklin Wren will listen to what I have been sayin:

TRADE SORIANO

TRADE GONZO

TRADE VASQUEZ

Get back prospects that can help in 2010 and beyond.

Dude. Are you thick or what? We got it the first 17588421528431244 times you posted that exact same thing. We know how you feel. We haven’t forgotten in the last hour since you last told us. It’s time for a new hobby. I have some suggestions if you can’t think of anything.

Wayne in Utah

June 26th, 2009
3:35 pm

Chop Chop Good observation.

Dmack: I think you’re also onto something.

rob in SC I really think it will be hard to deal a guy like Lowe with his contract. Besides, we got him to be our #1 this year, and a strong 2/3 in years to come. Why should an average start this year change things?

Wilson

June 26th, 2009
3:35 pm

C’mon DOB, you should have honored the King of Pop today with your daily music selection.

Bobby's Cox

June 26th, 2009
3:36 pm

Lowe gave up 7 runs to the worst team in the AL. MFin

I hope by the worst team in the AL you don’t mean Baltimore. Baltimore is only 2 games worse than us and they play in a much stronger division…If they’re the worst team in the AL, then perhaps we’re the worst in all of baseball….

fleming

June 26th, 2009
3:37 pm

Burdell – they could send him down to the minors for 10-15 days and stretch him out.

Can’t do that without putting him on waivers.

Bobby's Cox

June 26th, 2009
3:37 pm

Burdell,

I think you forgot Woodward, no? Or is he coming off the bench as the late inning pinch hitter?

PWHjort

June 26th, 2009
3:38 pm

VaBravesfan

June 26th, 2009
3:40 pm

The Yankees manager gets some credit for the offensive “explosion” by getting ejected. But you gotta admit there was some pretty crappy pitching involved, too.

Bobby's Cox

June 26th, 2009
3:42 pm

Those who are pushing the panic button on Derek Lowe since he got shellacked last night for the second time in three starts, you might want to pause a moment and consider his history. Last season with the Dodgers, he went through a four-game stretch in May where he was 0-3 with a 9.28 ERA and .345 opponents’ average. After that four-game stretch of 0-3 with a 9.28 ERA, he was 12-7 with a 2.49 and .223 ERA in 24 starts for the remainder of the season, with 108 strikeouts and 28 walks.

Thanks DOB, proves the point I was trying to make last night to Mike, who was brainwashed by his Dodger fan friend…

RedSoxNation

June 26th, 2009
3:43 pm

Beckett will eat Atlanta up again….BANK ON IT! We will easily take 2 from 3, and probably sweep. We really need to take advantage of below average NL teams like the Braves and I hope the Mets can handle the Yanks. If not for Dice-K’s meltdown in Boston and Kawekami’s nice start, we would’ve swept the Braves.

bmacnation.com

June 26th, 2009
3:43 pm

jj-

couldn’t agree more that Escobar should be an All-Star. If not for his production, at least for his acting talents. I’ve seen him turn 2 foul balls into HBP this year by faking out the homeplate ump. He’s bringing that soccer crap to the MLB. Glad he does it for our team, I would probably hate him otherwise.

Steve from OH

June 26th, 2009
3:43 pm

rob, what makes you think a team would trade for Lowe when they could’ve signed him in the offseason? If a team wasn’t willing to meet his price in the offseason, why would they take on his contract now AND give away quality minor league pieces? Makes no sense.

Steve from OH

June 26th, 2009
3:44 pm

RHR, you’re suprised at the level of density on the blog? Are you new here? LOL!

BraveNewWorld

June 26th, 2009
3:45 pm

VaBravesfan I remember a pitch that was an obvious strike that ended up being called a ball which eventually led to a run in the inning and possibly the game for Atlanta. Reminds me of the throwout of Beltran at 3rd by Mccann that wasn’t called which led to an Atlanta loss.

Bobby's Cox

June 26th, 2009
3:45 pm

Kelly will start tonight. In case you guys haven’t noticed, Bobby’s been going with a platoon.

It will be interesting to see if Escobar is in the lineup because of his hip…

lee

June 26th, 2009
3:45 pm

we blog and talk about the braves here, but it seems we are the only one that seems to care about the VERY iddiotic decisions Bobby Cox makes, and the stupid way this team playes this game!!!! this is a VERY VERY VERY dumb Baseball team!! the question i want to know is : when is the GM, “Team President” going to ever be made accountable for the VERY DUMB team!!!! all we get from them is “NO COMMENT”

Burdell

June 26th, 2009
3:45 pm

Chris Woodward is on the bench with Andruw and Pete Orr. I’ve also got Mark Redman, Reitsma, Tyler Yates, Wickman, and Jorge Sosa on the team. I’m tempted to throw Julio Franco on there with them. While not a whipping boy per se, he does catch a lot of grief about being 60.

AndyC

June 26th, 2009
3:45 pm

I think Corky Miller being traded for is one of the signs of the apocalypse. We are all doomed!

rob from SC (Yunel Escobar's Muscle)

June 26th, 2009
3:47 pm

We are all frustrated with the way the Braves have played for the last 4 years. Bobby Cox and Terry Pendleton have been in charge for those 4 years. Over the next five to seven years are key players are going to be (McCann, Escobar, Heyward, Freeman, Hanson, McLouth, Schafer, Jurrjens). These are all young players. It might be time for a change and get a younger voice in the clubhouse. I beliieve Chipper Jones has a lot to do with the business like approach that our players show during the game. I want the young players to play with excitement and passion. That is how we all played the game through high school. I would rather suffer through a few down seasons instead of continuing to delay the inevitable. I believe Frank Wren knows what needs to be done. Chipper Jones might be willing to accpet a trade to a winner during the offseason. We did not thrive as a team until we traded Dale Murphy. Maybe the same thing needs to be done with Chipper. He looks horrible at third base, and his power is declining. If he stays, he can’t be our best player.

Knowitall

June 26th, 2009
3:47 pm

So Beckett’s going against the Braves tonight. I think this is the perfect night to catch Transformers on the IMAX screen. I hope I’m surprised when I get home but……..

bravos2249

June 26th, 2009
3:48 pm

Bandwagon Nation

June 26th, 2009
3:49 pm

“Beckett will eat Atlanta up again….BANK ON IT! We will easily take 2 from 3, and probably sweep.”

probably sweep? have some balls and come out and predict a sweep you sissy

Lamar1Banks2

June 26th, 2009
3:49 pm

Burdell nice line-up. I think your team and the Nationals in the NLCS.

Chucktown Brave

June 26th, 2009
3:49 pm

Red Sox Nation,

When did you jump on the Boston bandwagon? Before or after “Fever Pitch”?

bravos2249

June 26th, 2009
3:50 pm

Remember when Mets fans B***** about Chipper’s comments on Citi Field…

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/ted_keith/06/26/wright.citi/index.html?eref=T1

Renegator

June 26th, 2009
3:51 pm

fleming:

Hudson is on the DL so he could pitch in the minors as a rehab assignment.

rob from SC (Yunel Escobar's Muscle)

June 26th, 2009
3:51 pm

Steve from OH

First off, Lowe might of had a list of teams he wanted to sign with. As a free agent he had all the power. Also teams are closing in on the playoffs. They might be willing to take a chance like we did with Teixeira. In all fairness Steve, you have no idea how other teams view Lowe. He has proven throughout his career that he is a solid post season force. The Dodgers, Brewers, Cardinals (because of injuries, Mets, Phillies, Yankees, Tigers, White Sox, Angels, Rangers all need pitching

Lamar1Banks2

June 26th, 2009
3:52 pm

Burdell

Come on Ryan Langerhans should at least start in center.

lee

June 26th, 2009
3:52 pm

p.S—) we deserve a lot more than “NO COMMENT” its no surprise to see boston in town: it is also easy to see the differences in the quality between the two organizations cant we?

rob from SC (Yunel Escobar's Muscle)

June 26th, 2009
3:53 pm

If we could somehow trade Lowe, then we can make a huge offer for Jason Bay. We need a powerful right handed bat to pair with our young left handed sluggers.

Heath (Cleveland)

June 26th, 2009
3:54 pm

I like the idea of offering Soriano and Gonzo contract extensions before trading them. First one to sign, stays. The other – can be used for a trade.

Wayne in Utah

June 26th, 2009
3:54 pm

Haven’t seen much comment on that “other” pitcher who left the Braves and is now pitching for another team. 5 IP, 7 Hits, 5 ER and 1 BB and 5 K’s. ERA of 9.00. Arm did not fall off (yet).

Again, it is only one start, but…..

Even Hanson stunk it up his first time out this year.

RedSoxNation

June 26th, 2009
3:55 pm

Funny you metion bandwagon fans when your own stadium can’t even draw 25,000-30,000 people if the Red Sox or Yankees are in town. That to me sounds like a bunch of bandwagon fans that only show up when the team is winning. Face it, the Braves are a well below average team and have been for going on 4 years now. There are so many holes in that lineup and the pitching is average at best that it will be years before they are even a average team. Chipper Jones is no more than a singles hitter and….well, that’s about it outside of McCann. Nothing really to talk about.

Bobby's Cox

June 26th, 2009
3:55 pm

I doubt we’ll trade the “best 2″ free agent relief pitchers on the market. We could, but I have a feeling we keep them and if they walk we take the draft picks to further restock our minors system. There currently isn’t anyone else on the team or organization that is a reliable reliever. I think Wren takes his chances on resigning one of the 2 (especially with the weak market for relievers last offseason), and gets a compensatory draft pick for the other. However, he could package one of them in a Francouer/KJ trade to sweeten the pot if either don’t raise their trade value by that time, but I’m just not ready to look that far into the future just yet.

Heath (Cleveland)

June 26th, 2009
3:55 pm

rob from SC -

As well as Bay is performing, I doubt we will compete for his services in the FA market.

RHR

June 26th, 2009
3:55 pm

Are you new here? LOL!

HA! I just didn’t want to be totally rude and say “dude, STFU already” … but that’s next. :D

rammerjammer

June 26th, 2009
3:56 pm

lee, glad to see you brought your “A” game with you. Very insightful. I especially liked your “its no surprise to see boston in town” comment. Profound. More, please.

Mitch C

June 26th, 2009
3:56 pm

Dave, hopefully Lowe will get himself straightened out. His pitching has been brutal to watch of late.

That would be pretty sad if the Braves have only one All Star. It reminds me of the 1980s Braves, when only Dale Murphy used to go every year.

At the beginning of this homestand, I was hoping we would play well, and get back into the race. Losing two of three to the Yankees really hurt. Now, it seems like we will be lucky to be a 500 team.

The Braves really need to win five of the next six against the Phillies and Sox to make a statement, and to have any chance. (Not likely, considering how they looked this week) I hate to say it, we may be looking toward next year by the time early July rolls around.

Mitch

Wayne in Utah

June 26th, 2009
3:56 pm

rob in SC

I guess you can go on wishin and hopin, but that is about all trading Lowe will work out to.

I really think you should look at the history of signed players. When have you seen something similar to that happen??? Just don’t see it, my friend.

Vinings Jim

June 26th, 2009
3:57 pm

RHR – you have to remember that some people like me are so stupid we dare to disagree with the Truth, but I think that after another 17588421528431244 posts, I may start coming around.

rob from SC (Yunel Escobar's Muscle)

June 26th, 2009
3:57 pm

Bobby’s Cox

I agree that if Gonzalez and Soriano are deemed Type A free agents then it might be worth holding on to them through the season. However, As a GM you need to do your job and see what is out there. Soriano/Gonzalez have the ability to alter a divisional race.

Bobby's Cox

June 26th, 2009
3:58 pm

Funny you metion bandwagon fans when your own stadium can’t even draw 25,000-30,000 people if the Red Sox or Yankees are in town. That to me sounds like a bunch of bandwagon fans that only show up when the team is winning

No RedSoxNation, those weren’t bandwagon Braves fans, those were out of market Yankee fans, who are probably bandwagaon fans. Same should hold true this weekend.

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