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Wayne in Utah
June 26th, 2009
3:59 pm
Bobby’s Cox
Good points about Soriano and Gonzo. I would hate to lose one of them. If we are out of it in 2-3 weeks, FW will listen to offers, I would think. If the offers are better than the picks, who knows…
njbraves
June 26th, 2009
3:59 pm
It gets dumber and dumber on here everyday. The Braves are not trading D Lowe and are not going to fire Bobby.
bravos2249
June 26th, 2009
3:59 pm
RedSoxNation
Excuse me…But the last sell out before this series was vs. the Mets last year. Don’t hate on us because we don’t have only 35,000 seats so we can sell out games EVERY night.
Chucktown Brave
June 26th, 2009
3:59 pm
OK, so it was after “Fever Pitch”
GB
June 26th, 2009
4:00 pm
Barrington needs a barium.
rob from SC (Yunel Escobar's Muscle)
June 26th, 2009
4:00 pm
Wayne in Utah
In the offseason and teams come calling the Braves for starting pitching, they can get Vazquez for one year or Lowe for three years. If we are able to extend Vazquez then I am sure the Braves will look into trade options for Derek Lowe.
chris from md
June 26th, 2009
4:01 pm
DOB,
Can you give us an update on the possible returns from Campillo, Caryle, Norton, and Infante?
Thx,
Chris from MD
cabravesfan
June 26th, 2009
4:02 pm
Vinings Jim-
Try banging your head against the table- it makes more sense…
fleming
June 26th, 2009
4:02 pm
Renegator – Hudson is on the DL so he could pitch in the minors as a rehab assignment.
We were talking about using Hudson as a closer next year when he wouldn’t be on the DL
rob from SC (Yunel Escobar's Muscle)
June 26th, 2009
4:03 pm
I understand that we are only four games out. That being said, the Mets are going to get healthy. As much as I hate the Mets, Rodriguez is not going to explode because of the September pressure. I would try to play the Phillies that they need pitching to beat the Mets. It would not bother me to trade Lowe to the Phillies if we get their top prospects. This is not me being negative but I didn’t expect to compete until 2011.
RHR
June 26th, 2009
4:03 pm
Man, I thought I still had my Thriller album but its not with my others. Maybe its at my parents house. I did find all my Prince and uh..Rick Springfield albums. And did I say this already? I saw pics of Prince at a recent event and the guy weighs less than my 4 year old niece. No but really, if he weighs 75 lbs I’d be shocked. He has never been a big man, of course, but he looks really , really thin. I hope he’s not sick.
TennesseePaul
June 26th, 2009
4:04 pm
Here’s to hoping KJ is sitting tonight. It’d be great if he could punch a wall or something… take one for the team. The Braves wouldn’t have to worry about the “suspect” DL assignments like “anxiety disorder” or “vision problems.” They could just get a couple of hired goons to hang out in the hallway to the club house and snap some limbs of the poor performing players.
timthebrave
June 26th, 2009
4:05 pm
redsoxnation…when you wear your brand new shiny hat to the braves game everyone knows that you are not a true fan. We can spot you out because you are the loudest and most annoying and your hat still has the tag on it..Thanks for giving the Braves some money….sucker
paul
June 26th, 2009
4:05 pm
simple issue here, simply put, cox was a good man, and a solid manager of one of the best pitching staffs ever assembled… he should have had atleast 3 rings. The braves are a AAAA team that should admit it and go through the process of growing again. if we make the playoffs it won’t be because we are good, it will be because the other teams are just as bad. that is not the way to go….
simple things…..this may get me banned from the blog, but we need a fire sale…. Lowe, Vasquez, Gonzalez, Soriano, Chipper, Yunel, Kawakwangi, Anderson (is anyone else tired of seeing him loaf?) kotchman and johnson (pick up huddy’s option and plan on dealing him as well) should all be dealt to highest bidder. we could rake in some solid prospects to rebuild around, mccan, jurjens, hanson, medlen, francouer, (yes keep him…25 yrs. old he is solid and should be a solid 7 hitter. if we are counting on him being a cleanup we are stupid) mcclouth, prado, freeman, the big minor league outfielder,, my bad name escapes me… and schafer) we will be solid in 3 years…
if we accept this as our fate, get back to treating the fans the right way!!!! then they will come out and watch this team grow up and win… if we keep lying to ourselves about what kind of team we have we will all go insane.
random thoughts – anyone else think we are idiots for not playing prado everyday? I for one sure like the big firstbaseman we brought up last we week…. they said his defense was poor… we freakin crap, what is chipper’s and yunel’s? we have one of the worst left sides in major league history right now… and now that hoss can’t hit for power he is not helping.
TIME TO REBUILD BRAVES…. GET A MANAGER THAT WILL TEACH THESE GUYS HOW TO PLAY AND REBUILD!!!!!! OR YOU MAY LOSE WHAT FANBASE YOU HAVE LEFT.
cabravesfan
June 26th, 2009
4:06 pm
RHR-
He’s like 4 feet tall- I’m sure his weight is porportional
scott
June 26th, 2009
4:06 pm
What is it with the people of Boston and bandwaggon-ing? First the Red Sox. There were a ton less sox fans before 2002 or so. Next example: The Patriots. Give me a break. The team was garbage for so long and all of a sudden they win the super bowl and there’s supposedly 39741941917 patriots fans?
Nope.
I know Braves fans dont always show up to Turner Field, but at least we dont bandwagon on any team that wins a championship. Thats ALL NE sports fans do.
P.s. Its not that f’ing hard to fill up a stadium with 35,000 people. Turner field is the 6th largest park in terms of capacity so dont throw up BS about us never having fans.
Heath (Cleveland)
June 26th, 2009
4:06 pm
If the Braves don’t think they are in the race when the trading deadline comes around, I would trade away the pieces people want. The compensation for losing a Type A free agent may turn out to be $hit. At least if you execute a trade, you have a better idea of what you are getting in return.
Adam
June 26th, 2009
4:08 pm
Let Lowe miss a start, put Medlen in. What do we have to lose? Might be tired arm…
Bobby's Cox
June 26th, 2009
4:09 pm
True rob from SC, Wren will do his due diligence and make a decision from there whether the talent we get back outweighs the draft pick option. I just don’t see us being that far out of it by then where Wren decides we should have a fire sale, when I’m sure we’ll need one of the 2 next year, and trading one of them weakens your chance on signing at least one of the 2. It’ll be interesting the route we take, but I think Wren has done a tremendous job in evaluating situations like this, and either way, I’m not worried.
RHR
June 26th, 2009
4:09 pm
I know cabraves, but he’s like…half the size he used to be. He really is about the size of a thin 7 year old.
braves fan in las vegas
June 26th, 2009
4:13 pm
Everyone just needs to calm down. We’re 4 games out and its not even the all star break. We are finally showing signs of life and everyone wants a fire sale. Frenchy is potentially starting to come around. he is laying off the first pitch lately and has been hitting to the opposit field instead of rolling over on the ball all the time. Dropping Yunel to 5th is a great move as he always puts the ball in play and that is what you want with you number 5 hitter. As much as I like Anderson hitting lately, I can’t stand watching him in the outfield. I’ve seen T-ballers with more effort than this joker. Its like he doesn’t even want to be out there.
give the team till the All star break before you throw up the white flag. The only terrible spot is Kelly Johnson and I’m a KJ fan. we need a second baseman and its not Prado. Prado is not an everyday player. We need to make a trade for a proven 2b. package KJ with one of our young pitchers for a 2b and that will help solidify the lineup. Also, I like Kotchman batting 2nd in the order. He is a contact hitter and that is what you need there.
Adam
June 26th, 2009
4:13 pm
We had bandwaggoning fans back in the 90s too….I live out here in SoCal and it was strange to say the least since in the 70s and 80s I was one of two Braves fans at Dodger Stadium or at Jack Murphy.
Once the Red Sox lose 90 in a few years the idiots who comprise the Nation will go away. It amazes me that probably 75% of them couldn’t find Boston on a map.
Wayne in Utah
June 26th, 2009
4:13 pm
rob
how you gonna get another team to send you value for a pitcher who will be 37, 38 and 39 years old, and get a salary of 15 million per year for EACH of those years.
We overpaid in last winter’s FA market, because Smoltz was at the end of his string, Hudson had a major surgery, and Jurrjens was unproven. We needed someone to lead our staff, in case Hanson didn’t emerge.
Tell me which teams will take him off our hands and give us something in return??? I just don’t see it.
Besides, we overpaid him for what he can DO for us, not for what he can BRING to us.
McPoyle
June 26th, 2009
4:14 pm
paul, i don’t think a firesale is really the answer. the braves have a good farm and are really only one stick away from being a very competative team. the record this year says so, up and down around .500 isn’t that far off from being a contender. (though it is extreeeeemly frustrating) When hudson comes back healthy, they have one of the deepest starting rotations in baseball… As of late the 3 headed monster down in the bullpen (moylan, gonzo, soriano) has been fantastic.
One big stick in the middle of the lineup is what is missing. and I’ll give you the “loafing” on anderson, he does seem to be in slow motion out there. but he’s getting older and even when he was moving at his best he still looked nonchalant. I have mixed feelings on Bobby, he’s been here so long it’s just kind of a given that he’s going to be there year after year… but I would like to see a change, something has to change. But the players love him (maybe not Yunel) and I wonder how they’d react.
Dumbfound
June 26th, 2009
4:15 pm
In that club house !!
Hillbilly
June 26th, 2009
4:15 pm
RHR,
I had the record, the glove, the socks,…I even had the red and black Thriller jacket from the video when I was 6 years old. I was a big fan until he turned into Jar-Jar Binks with a fetish. The live “Billie Jean” performance way back in the mid-80s was bad-ass (I think it was the VMAs, maybe.) Dude could seriously dance like nobody else on the planet. Too bad he turned into a wack-job and tarnished his legacy so horribly.
fleming
June 26th, 2009
4:16 pm
Adam – It amazes me that probably 75% of them couldn’t find Boston on a map.
I can. It’s a next to New York isn’t it. Just accross the river.
Wayne in Utah
June 26th, 2009
4:17 pm
paul
Not saying the Braves couldn’t do all you are proposing, but what actions have they taken that would indicate to you that they are willing to throw in the towel completely on the next few years???
I haven’t seen any signs to indicate that direction myself.
We can all come on and say what we think should be done, but we also have to be realistic and know that all we are doing here is just talking about it. Most of what we talk about will NEVER happen.
Robert
June 26th, 2009
4:17 pm
Cox WAS a constant 1991-2005 -He was the one constant negative and the major reason that what was the best team in baseball for eight years out of a decade won onlyt one World Series
And I dont wanna hear the drivel that you need to have four Walter Johnsons on either end of the rotation to win in the playoffs
Cox had all the pieces he needed and then some – and he failed miserably and consistantly
Now he actually is missing a piece or two and would have to mold a couple of the others to make the thing work properly. Fat chance. It’s why a team that could easily be leading the division by 2 or 3 games is instead 4 games out of the lead
Cox is the worst manager in the history of baseball
BL
June 26th, 2009
4:19 pm
RedSox Nation: The only thing left to talk about are the bad sight lines, falling debris, and awful short porch at fenway.
If you want to go to a sporting event and actually see some hot girls; take in any of this weekend’s games. Sure beats sitting next to Joe O’Fat-Man drinking a Guinness.
Robert
June 26th, 2009
4:19 pm
“My point is his managing skills have declined.”
Cox is skills havent declined in the least. Rather, they have been nonexistant from day one
fleming
June 26th, 2009
4:19 pm
Wayne in Utah – Most of what we talk about will NEVER happen.
Bobby and Wren don’t do what the blog asks, but maybe some of the players will. Just look at Bennett. We wanted him gone so he broke his hand to accommodate us.
Wayne in Utah
June 26th, 2009
4:20 pm
Damn Robert, I am really surprised to hear you say that!
Adam
June 26th, 2009
4:20 pm
Yes — New York and Boston are sister cities just like Minneapolis and St. Paul. Just across the river.
Renegator
June 26th, 2009
4:21 pm
fleming:
Gotcha – sorry, I misunderstood.
cabravesfan
June 26th, 2009
4:22 pm
4th winningest manager of all time and he’s never been able to manage! Thanks for the insight Robert!
fleming
June 26th, 2009
4:22 pm
Adam – Yes — New York and Boston are sister cities
I believe Boston is the ugly sister right?
CB
June 26th, 2009
4:22 pm
I feel sorry for any manager that has to manage in this age of internet and instant gratification. I know,I know, there are many “brilliant” managers on this blog who know more than Bobby,lol, but really? A manager today is to be felt sorry for to be judged by some of you dummies.
AndyC
June 26th, 2009
4:22 pm
Just looking at the attendance numbers for the year. Right now the Bravos are 17th in baseball in attendance averaging 26,578 per game. This is after the last four games in which they had much higher than normal attendance. Assuming that the next 3 games are close to sellouts that should increase their average to about 28,000 per game and would probably put them in 14th place assuming that all the other teams hold to their averages. Since 2006 they have finished 14th in the league in attendance every year averaging between 31,000 and 33,000 per game. Considering that attendance is down league wide, I think it would be pretty respectable if the Braves finish either 14th or 15th in the league for the season. It will be interesting to see what the attendance is like for the Phillies series. It will certainly go down but will it go down to the low 20’s? That’s the question.
Robert
June 26th, 2009
4:24 pm
“If Cox were that bad a manager, it would be obvious to more than a fringe crowd. Horrible strategic managers don’t reach and stay in the big leagues”
1. Everyone notices and knowsd – It’s just that the other baseball organizations have it in their interest for us to keep Cox – so they laud him. That and the fact that it’s an unwritten rule in the old boys club that is pro baseball to not badmouth your peers – so his comrades say nice things about him -
2. Bad managers do get to the bigs AND stay therev – especially when they are straight and loyal company men – which is what Cox is – with a franchise who is the ultimate company – they care about the company and the bottom line and not about things like championships – The Braves front office cares not how many games Cox blows as long as he stays loyal to the company line -
3. If you really think that the Maddux-Glavine-Smoltz teams needed some kind of genius to manage them (and especially if you think Cox is such a genius) then I strongly suggest you take your brain to the junk yard
Mitchie-san
June 26th, 2009
4:24 pm
McFann said Boo-Yah.
My life is now complete!
Thrillhouse44
June 26th, 2009
4:25 pm
Cox is skills havent declined in the least. Rather, they have been nonexistant from day one
Replace “Cox” with “Robert” and you’ve summed up your posts, bud. Years later, and you’re still posting the same drivel.
Robert
June 26th, 2009
4:25 pm
“4th winningest manager of all time and he’s never been able to manage! Thanks for the insight Robert!”
Give any other human being the same teams Cox has had, and they’d be at least the third winningest manager of all time
Wayne in Utah
June 26th, 2009
4:26 pm
cabravesfan
Now, now, let’s not confuse Robert with any facts! Besides, he knows it all. Let’s just let him tell us what to think, and then we will all be OK. He can be like our “big brother”!
Knowitall
June 26th, 2009
4:26 pm
RHR
I know Prince needs surgery on both hips from all of those years of dancing in high heels. I know he has been trying to avoid having the surgery. Perhaps he lost some weight to take some of the pressure off of his hips. Just a theory……
BraveNewWorld
June 26th, 2009
4:26 pm
rob from SC (Yunel Escobar’s Muscle) Who would you have setup and close then?
McFann Ô
June 26th, 2009
4:28 pm
Mitchie-san–
Don’t know how exactly I got on that boat…think it was that dumb commercial I saw ONCE where the one guy said it…
cabravesfan
June 26th, 2009
4:28 pm
That 4:24 might be the dumbest comment I have ever read on the blog, and that’s saying a lot..followed quickly by the 2nd dumbest at 4:25
TennesseePaul
June 26th, 2009
4:29 pm
In his past 13 games Francoeur has hit .313/.353/.438
I don’t want to ge my hopes up too much, but this is nice to see.
RHR
June 26th, 2009
4:29 pm
Hillbilly, I don’t think they had the VMA’s back then, not exactly sure what year MTV was “invented” but it wasn’t many years before Thriller came out. It was very new then, where I lived didn’t even get MTV until a year or two after it launched. Anyway, it was a Motown Tribute Show, Motown 25 Years or something like that.
I think his musical legacy will transcend whatever is true or not true about his personal life. I don’t know all the details of the charges against him, but I do know if someone molested one of my children I damn sure couldn’t be paid off ANY amount of money to let the accused off the hook. Hell no. And I most certainly would NOT let my children go spend the night alone with a grown man that was not a relative, I don’t care how wealthy or famous that man was. A parent who would be okay with either of those things is of questionable character, to say the least.
McPoyle
June 26th, 2009
4:29 pm
I’m not totally against Robert here…
I think he’s being a little shortsighted but really, “what have ya done for us lately” Bobby? If this were NYC, Philly, Chicago… 3 straight playoff misses and declining records in each would land you on the hot seat. Bobby has a free pass, and mayyyybe deservibly so, but I disagree. I don’t think the thought of a managerial change is that off base.
Adam
June 26th, 2009
4:30 pm
And like i always say, I cannot wait to see the attendance figures for that important, crucial, life-altering season-ending series with our archrivals, the Washington Nationals.Then again, there must be a consipracy because somehow, the Falcons have a bye that week…. Hmmm….
Should put us right over the top.
And by the way, the Red Sox should win a ton of games…. because of the Idiot I’ve Never Been to Boston Nation they get the equivalent of 140 home games each and every season — they should go 100-40 every year at home. Only the games at the Empire should be even remotely considered road games.
Boston fan — go to Triple A and get a map.
Buffalo NY Braves Fan
June 26th, 2009
4:30 pm
Robert,
Once again, thanks for your input. When you manage a major league team and amass over 2000 wins, let us know so we can compare you to Cox.
Robert
June 26th, 2009
4:30 pm
Whatever dude – History will bear me out.
Says here that as soon as Cox is gone, the Braves fortunes will take a significant turn for the better
We’ll see that I was right – eventually – the old donkey hopefully wont be managing when he’s ninety
CB
June 26th, 2009
4:31 pm
cabravesfan-hang around,records can be broken.
semiballcoach
June 26th, 2009
4:32 pm
chippers own quotes in edes column mention that cox never had to coach back when they had a larger payroll
cabravesfan
June 26th, 2009
4:32 pm
CB-
in this case, if there is soething out there that makes less sense, I’m not sure I want to see it
Wayne in Utah
June 26th, 2009
4:32 pm
10Paul
I will feel a lot better about those numbers, if they are sustained for the month of July.
Hey, I am one of the biggest Francoeur and KJ fans on here. We really need those two to wake the heck up and start playing ball. Prado deserves a shot, but an optimal Prado vs an optimal KJ, easy choise with KJ.
Same thing w/ JF over any other choice we currently have for RF.
Robert
June 26th, 2009
4:33 pm
“Robert,
Once again, thanks for your input. When you manage a major league team and amass over 2000 wins, let us know so we can compare you to Cox”
You give me, or you, or DOB, or Wayne in Utah, or anyone not named Hargrove or Valentine the same teams Cox has had, and we’d have the 200 wins, a passle of division titles, and at LEAST 3 World Series rings (and maybe as many as seven)
As many teams as the Braves have won every year with Cox at the helm, they’d have on average ten more a year if someone else had been managing
A game every other week – that’s what he blows directly. The pattern is always the same. Cox starts thinking – then he gets that “who farted?” scowl on his face – then the dugout starts to smell like rotten eggs – and POOF the Braves lose
Robert
June 26th, 2009
4:34 pm
“I think he’s being a little shortsighted but really, “what have ya done for us lately” Bobby?”
Short sighted? My friend, Cox should have been canned after the 1993 season
Steve from OH
June 26th, 2009
4:35 pm
Robert, care to offer any insights on something other than Cox? Or are you just a one-trick donkey?
Lew
June 26th, 2009
4:35 pm
lee-The team and management is dumb? Maybe they’re just playing to the level of some of the fans like you.
Heath (Cleveland)
June 26th, 2009
4:35 pm
Atlanta’s pitching staff has a 3.99 ERA, 5th in the NL. A 3.83 ERA, 5th in the NL as a starter and a 4.09 ERA, 8th in the NL as a reliever. We all agree that the pitching staff, as a whole is rather good and many “Ws” have been left on the table because of lack of offense. So, naturally we have all been pandering for “a big bat” to “fix” the problem. Here’s my thoughts on this. We can see some obvious deficiencies against the AL’s best teams, but, we haven’t even faced the NL’s best team yet–the Dodgers. Consider this, the Dodgers have a team ERA of 3.65 (second to SF with a 3.64 ERA) AND they are 3rd in the league in runs scored with 365 — a bulk of those games without Manny. The Braves have a marginally inferior pitching staff AND a drastically inferior offense. If the Dodgers are the NL’s measuring stick…we just don’t measure up at all. This of course, says nothing of our inability to get above 4th place in our own division.
Vinings Jim
June 26th, 2009
4:37 pm
CB – excellent point
cabravesfan – what do I keep telling you – does your head hurt from the incessant banging?
Robert
June 26th, 2009
4:37 pm
“Robert, care to offer any insights on something other than Cox? Or are you just a one-trick donkey?”
I dont see the point of discussing anything else relating to the Braves until the one big problem that will destroy anything they put out there is gone. You could give him a team full of Babe Ruths and Walter Johnsons, and Donk would blow it
Once he is gone, then it becomes relevent to talk about who to play where, what trades to consider, who to promote, and so on
Until then, all you’re doing is arguing about what particular group of players Cox should mismanage to failure
Mac
June 26th, 2009
4:38 pm
In the Boston series, I like our starters better than theirs. If we can only start hitting.
Lamar1Banks2
June 26th, 2009
4:39 pm
I’m not taking up for Bobby Cox but Time Warner wanted to slash payroll before they sold it to Liberty Media. I don’t know if any manager desd or alive could have won with
Ryan Langerhans
Mark Redman
Buddy Carlyle
Jo Jo Reyes
Chris Reitsma
Dan Kolb
Bob Wickman
Horacio Ramirez
Brian Jordan
Raul Mondesi
Andruw Jones (not batting his weight litterally)
Chris Woodward
Pete Orr
Jeff Francoeur
Kelly Johnson
That just to name a few. I’m sure I blocked out some others
OOOOOO the Horror
RedSoxNation
June 26th, 2009
4:39 pm
You guys have to agree with me that this Braves team is well below average, right? Four games under .500 and I can’t imagine where they’d be in the AL east or even the AL central. They are just plain horrible and if you except that, then you won’t get frustrated with them losing. Say it with me….the Atlanta Braves are below average!!
cabravesfan
June 26th, 2009
4:40 pm
Vinings Jim-
Not anymore- There is a permanent lump there and it provides padding…or I just no longer have any feeling in my head
Lew
June 26th, 2009
4:42 pm
chris from md-Campillo just had season ending surgery. Norton is staying at Gwinnett for a while so he can get some AB’s and try to pull himself out of the slump. Carlyle is getting his diabetes under control and Infante won’t be back for a while yet. It took him a couple of months to heal when it was broken before. If I’m wrong, I’m sure I’;ll hear about it.
Robert Goulet
June 26th, 2009
4:42 pm
If the Braves can get through this stretch they will be fine. We still have 10 or so games left with the Nats.
TnBrian
June 26th, 2009
4:42 pm
Mac, they have been hitting. Lowe stinks to high heaven right now, Kawakami got blasted in the neck(was pitching awesome), JJ has been getting roughed up a bit and if Hanson doesn’t learn some control in MLB, then he’s soon to get hammered as well because he can’t keep pitching with runners all over the place. It WILL haunt him eventually. Like I said, I’ve been the most impressed with our hitters appraoch and never die attitude here lately.
cabravesfan
June 26th, 2009
4:43 pm
Robert, please, give it a rest. Cox isn’t going anywhere
Wayne in Utah
June 26th, 2009
4:43 pm
Robert
Bobby frustrates the heck out of me for some of his tactical decisions, but if you graded ALL major league managers for their goof-ups, I don’t think you would see a world of difference from the top to the bottom.
What a guy like you will never admit, is that for all his faults, he has a world of plusses. Do you not give him any credit for all the ballplayers over the years, that he stuck with or supported, that far exceeded their previous performances?? Or was that just luck?
Sorry, but I listen to a lot of baseball (lots of time behind the wheel, listening to sports talk shows). I have NEVER, not ONCE heard of any baseball person demean Bobby Cox. Far from it, to a man they always laud his style, demeanor, and success.
I fully understand why some on here (many on here are very short term focused too) want Bobby to step down. Sometimes I agree with them. But for you and those who keep on with the same old sad story, post after post, day after day; to those of us who have been around the game for years, you just make yourself look stupid.
So, if you have anything else to say, please say it, otherwise, just shut the heck up. We already know how you fell.
Robert
June 26th, 2009
4:43 pm
Nevermind anything I’ve previously stated… I am, in fact, a moron
Hillbilly
June 26th, 2009
4:44 pm
RHR,
I agree, that is completely unforgivable, and the parents should be smacked. It makes it easy to forget just how unbelievably huge he was before all of the allegations. He was to our generation, what Hannah Montana is to our kids right now. I wouldn’t doubt it at all if her career goes down the same similar path…Not necessarily child molestation, but just garbage in general.
Here is the perfomrnace I was talking about. Motown Awards sounds about right:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7mEQVWQgRA&feature=related
McPoyle
June 26th, 2009
4:45 pm
A sweep of the Sawx would be nice (unlikely). I’ll be at Wrigley next week for the M,T,W games against the Cubs, it’d be nice to see a winning streak make it’s way into town.
TnBrian
June 26th, 2009
4:45 pm
Oh, and the middle relief guys have been filthy rotten and deserve to not have their jobs as MLB pitchers…they are a discrace to the Braves organization and to us fans. Hitting’s been fine. Alright,I’m done.
CB
June 26th, 2009
4:46 pm
Ah- we finally found something we can all agree on.
GB
June 26th, 2009
4:47 pm
Robert- don’t you go insulting morons.
cabravesfan
June 26th, 2009
4:48 pm
Wayne in Utah-
You must have missed the part of Robert’s post that said other teams praise Cox just so the Braves will keep him around…because, you know, that’s how the Braves run their team- listening to everyone else instead of evaluating on their own.
Jake W.
June 26th, 2009
4:48 pm
“Say it with me….the Atlanta Braves are below average!!”
No duh, Sherlock. I mean did you figure that out on your own or did you just look at there sub .500 record. Glad to know that members of Red Sox Nation know how to read. Geniuses, all of you. Next you’re gonna tell me that the Braves are actually a National League team. I know it seems confusing when you see that our number 9 hitters generally have a higher average than our number 8 hitters but those are actaully pitchers batting in our number 9 hole.
Heath (Cleveland)
June 26th, 2009
4:49 pm
OH….and someone mentioned earlier about the Braves having a better team batting average than the Phillies but scoring less runs. This is yet another reason why BA is one of the more over-rated batting statistics in baseball. Wanna know the difference between the two teams and why the Phils score more runs? Phils/Braves SLG = .450 1st/3.89 14th and Phils/Braves OPS = .785 1st/.718 13th. When the Phillies put the ball in play, they cause some damage….the Braves don’t.
Robert
June 26th, 2009
4:49 pm
“I have NEVER, not ONCE heard of any baseball person demean Bobby Cox”
They either
1. Work for the Braves, in which case you are out the door quickly if you speak badly of the BIG Donk, or
2. Work for other teams, in which case it is in their best interest to make sure Cox stays as our manager – so that, for example, he couldnt be THEIR manager
All those people who have never bad mouthed Cox have uklterior motives. I betcha my last nickel that in private they laugh their asses off at his idiocies
McFann Ô
June 26th, 2009
4:49 pm
CB, GB–
Wayne in Utah
June 26th, 2009
4:49 pm
TnBrian
Bad recently, yes. Filthy rotten, nah. Get a grip man. They are certainly not a disgrace. Frustrating yes, disgrace no.
Words mean things. Use the right ones. If your frustrated, go outside and throw a rock or two at a tree. It will make you feel better.
TennesseePaul
June 26th, 2009
4:49 pm
Wayne: “JF over any other choice we currently have for RF”
Sad but true. It’s either JF or Blanco and that is depressing. But at second, we have Marteen, and even though I strongly dislike that player, right now he is a better option for the team.
I haven’t been able to watch many games on TV out here, has Francoeur’s approach or stance changed?
dmack2027
June 26th, 2009
4:50 pm
I do not agree that it is wiser to take the picks.
This year the Braves picked the highest in the draft since 1991 and took a polished left handed pitcher with decent stuff. There were pitchers with much much much more upside in the draft, but for whatever reason, they went away from drafting high school players this year. To me, that shift in philosophies indicates a reluctance to give high bonuses to such young kids.
We will see what happens with Mike Minor, but if the Braves are not willing to dole out $ to high picks, getting compensation picks does them no good.
McFann Ô
June 26th, 2009
4:50 pm
Who else can’t stand that Zantac commercial? “My heartburn was like a volcano in my chest…boom.”
Sorry, but ugh…
Heath (Cleveland)
June 26th, 2009
4:50 pm
*typo* is a .389 SLG for Braves…you probably could have guessed, though.
Robert
June 26th, 2009
4:51 pm
Again, whatever – It’s obvious he is totally incompetent, but the results will improve once he leaves. Of course the apologists will find some excuse
until then we can look forward to more “One bad pitch” explanations for 10 run losses, or “we hit rockets all day” to explain getting shut out by a AA pitcher on four meek singles –
oh, and no sunglasses on the caps during batting practice – that’s important
cabravesfan
June 26th, 2009
4:52 pm
McFann-
It’s better then that Enzyte commercial with the guy dresses as Santa…way, way creepy!
Lamar1Banks2
June 26th, 2009
4:52 pm
Jake W.
I laughed so hard I was about to cry
Keep it coming
Wayne in Utah
June 26th, 2009
4:52 pm
cabravesfan
OK, that knot on my head is hurting, so I am done with “he who must not be named” for the day.
Salamander
June 26th, 2009
4:53 pm
In his past 13 games Francoeur has hit .313/.353/.438
I don’t want to get my hopes up too much, but this is nice to see.
Agreed, it certainly is good to see Jeff make some improvements.
That being said, I’m not a Jeff fan, and I never have been – even in 2006 and 2007 (granted his 2005 rookie year was magical). I don’t want Wren to sign him after this season – pretty much regardless of how well he performs from here on out.
Honestly, I just don’t trust the guy to perform well over long periods of time, in particular when it comes to improving his slumping power numbers and his OBP. I don’t think he is really that great of a player and even his successful ABs often make me cringe.
I just don’t like his approach to hitting – his hacks are uncomfortable for me to watch and usually make me angry. I expect that good pitching will trump his raw free-swinging talent 9 times out of ten for the rest of his career.
Some sweeping statements on my part… what can I say? I don’t like the guy. Please do not call me Paul Lentz!
Chop Chop
June 26th, 2009
4:54 pm
If the Braves were as consistent as Robert, they’d make the playoffs this season.
There are at least several days a season where Robert goes on and on about Bobby Cox. This is normal. Do not be alarmed. Those of us who would like to see a managerial change have enough sense to know that Bobby Cox is not the “worst manager ever.” The “worst manager ever” gets fired before he is allowed to ruin teams over a significant period of time. The “worst manager ever” rips his players in the press, kills any kind of joy they may derive from playing the game, and constantly embarrasses his organization in the press. The “worst manager ever” can’t execute a double switch, always brings in the worst reliever in every pressure situation, always lets his starter go too long or not long enough, and always blames someone else for his poor decisions.
Worst of all, the “worst manager ever” is never successful.
Robert is as insipid as the fantasy Bobby Cox he foists on us. This has always been true. It will always be true.
Hee Haw.
cabravesfan
June 26th, 2009
4:54 pm
I take back what I said about that 4:24 comment…we have a new winner! (@ 4:49)
cabravesfan
June 26th, 2009
4:54 pm
CB-
You were right!
Heath (Cleveland)
June 26th, 2009
4:54 pm
Oh, and in case some people want to moan and groan about strikeouts… The Braves rank 13th LOWEST strikeouts in the NL with 112…only 8 strikeouts more than San Diego who has the NL’s LEAST amount. So, having low strikout totals isn’t helping us either even though so many on here contend that as a major problem.
Robert
June 26th, 2009
4:55 pm
again, I really must appologize. I am an idiot.