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J williams
June 25th, 2009
8:14 pm
unless the Yanks call off the dogs, this could be a double-digit loss
Tomahawkin
June 25th, 2009
8:14 pm
This Is Embarassing With The Bandwagon Yankees Fans Turning Tooner Field into “Yankee Stadium South”
If I was at the Game I’d Probably be ready to fight some of those Obnoxious Bandwagon Yankee A-Holes….
bigmacattack
June 25th, 2009
8:14 pm
well at least this home stand lasted good for … 2 games
Coach ( 2010 or Bust)
June 25th, 2009
8:14 pm
BALLGAME!
rob from sc
June 25th, 2009
8:15 pm
Derek Lowe throws one pitch for a strike. And when the sinker doesn’t sink this is what happens.
Wren – Sign Vazquez trade Lowe
Original Jon
June 25th, 2009
8:15 pm
Well, thats the game folks, our offense wont come back against an aging pitcher such as Pettite. SO, see ya tomorrow.
Mitchell
June 25th, 2009
8:15 pm
As long as the Phillies keep losing it’s not technically over. Not the way you want to stay in the race though.
It would be awful nice if we could just stay around .500 at the least this month. Another lovely June for the Braves. And if it holds up it will probably be another winning September when it’s too little too late.
MVH
June 25th, 2009
8:15 pm
Lowe’s gotta be better than this, but they’ve hit several (3 or 4, maybe 5) grounders that were just lucky to be base hits. Braves have hit Andy P. hard just as many times as the Yankees so far, but those were at defenders while virtually everything the Yanks have hit (hard or not) have been placed perfectly. If the Yanks meant to do that, they’d do it every game and they don’t (look at game one).
joe
June 25th, 2009
8:15 pm
Yankees hitters say: Next!
Mike in LA
June 25th, 2009
8:15 pm
What a bunch of quitters on this blog. The Yankees have had some great at bats so far but this is a long way from being over
FEAR
June 25th, 2009
8:16 pm
maybe we should keep Javy and ship out Lowe?
Kudzu Wildcat
June 25th, 2009
8:16 pm
Turn out the lights, this game is over. Trade Lowe, we are not getting our money’s worth from this guy!! Good night, better luck Saturday, tomorrow is already a loss against Beckett.
Unknown
June 25th, 2009
8:16 pm
Lowe’s ERA up to 4.53, worst out of our 5 starters.
TnBrian
June 25th, 2009
8:16 pm
Nobody will take on Lowe’s contract so the Braves are stuck with him for 4 years. All they can do is hope this isn’t a sign that he’s finally wearing down at 36. He really looks bad, but ya’ll knew that. Chip sure sounds mighty excited right now, don’t he?
joe
June 25th, 2009
8:16 pm
Let’s get back in this thing. Cmon guys!
Chop it up All-Stars
June 25th, 2009
8:16 pm
If tonight was a “must-win” then we should consider the Braves sellers at this point.
Steve from OH
June 25th, 2009
8:16 pm
And I still don’t believe you, rob. Though I’m not suprised at your reaction right now, as you strike me as a typical knee-jerk reaction fan doing typical knee-jerk reaction fan stuff when a starting pitcher goes through a rough patch, as Lowe is now. Me personally? Having seen him have a good start to his season and seeing the relatively huge sample of four sub-4.00 ERA full seasons before this one, I’m going to do something that is relatively foreign to the blog and be PATIENT, as I have full confidence in his ability to rebound and post a nice season.
And I still am not quite sure why you’re taking to addressing all of your posts to me about Lowe…
Bill (SC)
June 25th, 2009
8:17 pm
Do you think Lowe is hurt? His pitching recently has been going downhill.
Tomahawkin
June 25th, 2009
8:17 pm
Hoss Come On, Wake The F Up And Do Something!!!
the hope of the braves nation rests in your hands mr hanson
June 25th, 2009
8:17 pm
what a f*cking train wreck.
that last inning of disaster pushes lowe’s era to 4.58 with a whip of 1.37……
not that good.
Jake W.
June 25th, 2009
8:17 pm
At least the offense keeps coming at them. Thats encouraging for the long run. But tonight, let’s go Rays.
The Truth
June 25th, 2009
8:18 pm
Stinking Lowe, choking it up in the middle of the third inning. We can’t count on the youngsters or the veterans. A day after getting robbed by a fluke shot to the chest, these choke artists can’t regroup.
I say, make Lowe stay in for 7-8 innings. Suck it up and don’t be a draing on our bullpen two days in a row. I don’t care if we lose 30-1.
Joebrave
June 25th, 2009
8:18 pm
Wren, you get a break, But the Entire bunch of Gutless Turds, on the Team, BooBy Kooks, and Terry McJerk can go to hell!
MrNeutral
June 25th, 2009
8:19 pm
RobfromSC & Unknown
One of you is MFin09 Jr. and the other is just a plain loser. If you can’t say anything but trash about the Braves and their players, go somewhere else.
Bill (SC)
June 25th, 2009
8:19 pm
On a different note…I do like tonight’s lineup. I wish we had used it earlier in the year.
TNJeff
June 25th, 2009
8:19 pm
Just enering the party so forgive me if all this has been said already
Any thought on the possibility that Bennett hit that wall so as to go on the DL rather than be released outright?
Anyone blasting Bradley for yet again demonstrating his stupidity?
This team has a will to lose and lose they will
joe
June 25th, 2009
8:19 pm
Derek Lowe is a lower rotation guy on a good staff. It is too bad we’re paying him big money, but it did fill a need on the staff this year.
McLouth of the South
June 25th, 2009
8:19 pm
Never thought I’d say this but I’m starting to agree with the “Keep Javy, trade Lowe” contingent. This is not his first poor outing. I don’t want to see this for 4 years at 15MM per.
Unknown
June 25th, 2009
8:19 pm
Chipper sucks
MVH
June 25th, 2009
8:19 pm
The strike zone has been awful. If Lowe was getting some of the calls he’d probably be doing better.
Heath (Cleveland)
June 25th, 2009
8:20 pm
Braves are making Pettitte work…54 pitches after Chipper
Tomahawkin
June 25th, 2009
8:20 pm
Chipper Picked the Perfect Homestand to go into creep mode…Arrrggghhh!
rob from sc
June 25th, 2009
8:20 pm
McFann
Maybe McCann needs to go on the radio and complain that he is not getting any pitches to hit because Chipper never gets on base.
CorkylikesBeer
June 25th, 2009
8:21 pm
Mcfann…did McCann not his wheaties this morning
Unknown
June 25th, 2009
8:21 pm
MrNeutral, you sir are a turd, if you dont like my comments, then STFU and move on….douche.
rob from sc
June 25th, 2009
8:21 pm
MrNeutral
Tell me the last time Lowe pitched a great game
JasonInFL
June 25th, 2009
8:21 pm
this just in…we “ain’t” winning this series either…
JDH GT
June 25th, 2009
8:21 pm
To all of you trolls who just typed “BALL GAME,” SHUT UP! Everyone knows that it doesn’t look good. We can all see that, but you know what? Until the last out in the bottom of the ninth, it is NOT “BALL GAME.” If you have nothing else to offer, please go away.
Tomahawkin
June 25th, 2009
8:21 pm
I love B-Macc but B-Macc Needs His Jake Plummer Beard Back, He has Sucked since he wacked it off…
David O'Brien
June 25th, 2009
8:21 pm
Don’t know if anyone mentioned it here, but Smoltz gave up four runs in the first inning tonight at Washington. But only one since them.
He’s pitched four innings, given up five runs, six hits and one walk with two strikeouts. Thrown 79 pitches.
Coach ( 2010 or Bust)
June 25th, 2009
8:21 pm
90 games left after tonight. The Phillies are on pace to win 87 games. We have 34 W’s and need 54 more. That would require our Braves to play .600 baseball for the rest of this season and they haven’t done that since 2004.
Simply put, IT IS OVER. DONE. FINISHED. MATHEMATICALLY IMPOSSIBLE.
Nova Scotia Steve
June 25th, 2009
8:21 pm
I think every time AJC reporter says “Braves Need To/A Win Tonight” We very very rarely get it…Most of the times its true…We do/did need the win tonight…
Bobby Cox Hat Tipping Club
June 25th, 2009
8:22 pm
Some pitchers hit a bump in the road in the early innings and settle down. I think it’s safe to say after watching Lowe for half a season that if he’s stinking it up to start the game… he’s going to stink it up the entire start.
hmmmm
June 25th, 2009
8:22 pm
I have been saying for two weeks to trade Lowe and not Vasquez. Send him to the White Sox for Dye and Konerko.
joe
June 25th, 2009
8:23 pm
Coach, your description of your “calculations” are totally incorrect, as it is indeed mathematically possible.
Tomahawkin
June 25th, 2009
8:23 pm
JDH GT
Its seems you haven’t been watching this offense in games this year have you…
This Offense Blows…
You really believe that these Clowns can come back against Pettite, P. Hughes and Mo…?
If so then take off those rose colored sunglasses, It ain’t happening bro…
rob from sc
June 25th, 2009
8:23 pm
I would do Dye/Konerko for Lowe/Kotchman
Chris
June 25th, 2009
8:23 pm
Its amazing a lot of the Yanks are pushing 40, yet getting better?
joe
June 25th, 2009
8:23 pm
If the White Sox didnt want Vazquez, why would they want Lowe
nolie
June 25th, 2009
8:24 pm
Man alive! This lineup that all the bloggers were raving about is having as much trouble scoring as every other lineup tried. Could the bloggers possibly not know what they are ranting about? Nah, that just isn’t posssible…is it?
Unknown
June 25th, 2009
8:24 pm
This is what happens when you assemble a team with zero power, zero speed, several aging veterans on the downfall of their careers (Lowe, Chipper) and a over the hill coach. I feel the best thing for this team is to suck it up and start over. They just aren’t going anywhere as is.
JDH GT
June 25th, 2009
8:24 pm
Thank you, joe. I was also about to make that point. Coach, if order for it to be “impossible,” the Braves would have to win 101% of their remaining games.
RHR
June 25th, 2009
8:25 pm
Oh hey guys! Isn’t this a great game! I have a question?!
Who the !@#* is going to finish pitching this game for us now that Lowe’s 15 million dollar per year ass is flaming out on us in early innings for his 3rd consecutive start?
And when will it be announced that he’s going to have to have surgery? Because….if you don’t see that coming you might want to consult an optometrist.
glord
June 25th, 2009
8:25 pm
I have followed Lowe for years and he is not an ace. He is a very good pitcher that is a #2 starter at beast and #3 at worst. The problem with him is that although very consistant over the coarse of a year he is very eratic during the season. He is very much like a knuckleball pitcher that will be unhittable for three innings and then get smoked for 3 or 4.
When it is all over Lowes numbers will be 14 wins and 210 innings and a 3.7 era. Not worth 15 mil but we knew that when he was signed.
VENEZUELA
June 25th, 2009
8:25 pm
lowe is NOT an ACE
Coach ( 2010 or Bust)
June 25th, 2009
8:25 pm
My calculations are dead on and I challenge anybody to disprove them
Unknown
June 25th, 2009
8:26 pm
This is getting embarassing.
Tomahawkin
June 25th, 2009
8:26 pm
Damn ESCO…I think He threw That at 100mph….
David O'Brien
June 25th, 2009
8:26 pm
Coach, that 8:21 post is really kinda silly.
Spin the numbers any way you want, talk about projected wins for the Phillies and blah blah blah. Simple fact of the matter is this: Braves are four games behind the division leaders with 91 games to play before tonight. Four behind, 91 to play.
Mathematically impossible? What kind of math is that?
Phillies are losing right now, by the way. So if both scores hold, Braves will still be four games behind the division leaders tomorrow morning, with a mere 90 games to play.
RHR
June 25th, 2009
8:26 pm
Heh. Did Yunel just flip off the scorer?
JDH GT
June 25th, 2009
8:26 pm
Tomahawkin, I realize that it probably won’t happen. But you don’t know that it “ain’t.” If you aren’t wearing rose colored glasses, why do you even watch? Part of being a fan is hoping that it can happen.
McFann :Ô:
June 25th, 2009
8:27 pm
rob from sc
Ha!
BTW–Is there a link to that interview somewhere, do you know? I’d just be almost int’rested to hear it. Thanks.
CorkylikesBeer–
You tryin’ to mess with me? ‘Cause I’m not really in the mood…
Seriously, though, I don’t know what’s up with the Macster.
Tomahawkin
June 25th, 2009
8:27 pm
RHR
You are Already Fired Up, Love It!
I must be rubbing off on you, lol
Heath (Cleveland)
June 25th, 2009
8:27 pm
Do the Braves make an error every game?
FEAR
June 25th, 2009
8:27 pm
there has gotta be a GM out there dumb enough to take lowe’s contract. The only real impressive start I’ve ssen by him was opening day. Javy on the other has been great…just no run support.
Tomahawkin
June 25th, 2009
8:27 pm
Joe Hating On ESCO Again…Who Knew!!!
Chris
June 25th, 2009
8:27 pm
Well at least we can drill Swisher in the ear hole now and it will not matter.
Original Jon
June 25th, 2009
8:27 pm
Didnt Lowe sign with the Braves because of their defense? Just curious.
rob from sc
June 25th, 2009
8:27 pm
Why is Lowe still pitching
joe
June 25th, 2009
8:28 pm
Merry-Lowe-Around Part Four
rob from sc
June 25th, 2009
8:28 pm
Joe Simpson loves to ride Escobar
Tomahawkin
June 25th, 2009
8:28 pm
God This Team Sucks!!!
Unknown
June 25th, 2009
8:28 pm
Were looking at a 20-1 final here folks. At least TNA comes on in 30 min.
RHR
June 25th, 2009
8:28 pm
By the way, aren’t the Yankees like 5 games out? How come nobody is talking about the Yankees being done? How come nobody says they don’t have a chance?
CorkylikesBeer
June 25th, 2009
8:28 pm
funny..how joe’s hating on escobar…yet kj and frenchy..are the greatest
Doc Holiday - c ya in 2010
June 25th, 2009
8:28 pm
Incdrdible how can this team change from 1 day to another…………..Same inconsistency we have seen las 4 season.
Heath (Cleveland)
June 25th, 2009
8:28 pm
Explain to my why Lowe is still in the game? Isn’t that a sign Bobby is waiving the white flag?
Coach ( 2010 or Bust)
June 25th, 2009
8:29 pm
Silly, no. O’Brien, You just want to justify the remaining 90 game as something meaningful, when in fact they are nothing more than an exercise in futility.
McFann :Ô:
June 25th, 2009
8:29 pm
Joe said that should have been a hit…?
That was more of an error than Utley’s…uummm…sorry…
Bobby Cox Hat Tipping Club
June 25th, 2009
8:29 pm
If the Braves were really in the race, I would be worried about Lowe. As it is, not a big deal. Have to throw somebody out there to pitch…may as well be Lowe lol
Original Jon
June 25th, 2009
8:30 pm
3+ innings from our “Ace” while give up 6 runs, possibly more, priceless.
StingerSplash
June 25th, 2009
8:30 pm
11 hits. 9 outs. This classifies as a bad outing for Mr. Lowe. It’s a little disturbing that it comes so quickly on the heels of the stinker in Charm City.
rob from sc
June 25th, 2009
8:30 pm
JOE
Leave Escobar alone
Tomahawkin
June 25th, 2009
8:30 pm
Heath
The Braves Make 2 Errors at the minimum per game…
I usually see at least one mental error per game and one Physical…
The Braves Defense Sucks overall (Mentally and Physically)
bigchiefrg
June 25th, 2009
8:30 pm
yunel showing whats currently wrong with this team. whether that was an error or not, there is still a runner on first. who cares how it was scored?
Steve from OH
June 25th, 2009
8:30 pm
I would do Dye/Konerko for Lowe/Kotchman
Lowe has been a 2 WAR pitcher so far this season, Kotchman a .1 WAR 1B Konerko a 1.2 WAR 1B and Dye a .6 WAR OF. This is over approx 1/3 or so of a season. So congrats, you’ve just cost your club approximately 1 win over the course of a season while adding 6MM worth of aging players in payroll to the club. Frank Wren had better watch out for his job…
rob from sc
June 25th, 2009
8:30 pm
Did Escobar insult Simpson’s mother
CorkylikesBeer
June 25th, 2009
8:30 pm
Joe simpson wish he had ten percent of escobar’s talent
joe
June 25th, 2009
8:31 pm
DOB,
Good Smack Down on that silly coach statement. Some statements are inexcusably silly.
I love Escy, but I’m kinda with Simpson on the fact that he should not be letting those types of things get to him and affect his play.
Tomahawkin
June 25th, 2009
8:31 pm
Joe Keep Mouthing Off On Esco And Don’t be suprised if he Pulls a Deion Sanders Stunt on your ass…
Jake W.
June 25th, 2009
8:31 pm
This is why it sucks that we wasted so many off his good starts and other starters good starts.
Poorjeff
June 25th, 2009
8:31 pm
Shut the blank up Joe…Everyone hits on Esco and not a word from Joe on girl friend frenchy when he screws up. No reason for Joe to single out one player. Joe needs some improvement.
TnBrian
June 25th, 2009
8:31 pm
Joe’s argument is justified people, get over it! Escobar has to grow up, but no way he’s in Atl. next year.
David O'Brien
June 25th, 2009
8:31 pm
Oh, and if the Phillies lose tonight they’ll be “on pace” to win 85.6 games.
That is, if you take their entire season record into account. Currently, they’re on a lot worse pace than that, having lost seven of their past eight games and nine of their past 11 before tonight.
For the month of June, before today, the Phillies were 9-12, the Braves were 9-12, the Mets were 8-13, and the Marlins were 14-8.
So I guess technically, the Marlins are now on pace to run away with the thing?
Pace. Yeah, whatever.
Mathematically impossible? Sure, if you say so.
Dude, I understand the frustration by you and all Braves fans. But fact of the matter is, this division is flawed. Every team is. And no one looks capable of putting together a long hot streak. The other teams — with possible exception of Marlins — don’t have the pitching for it, and the Braves don’t have the hitting for it.
bravos2249
June 25th, 2009
8:31 pm
How in the EFF do they know Yunel’s mad about his stats? He could be mad because it was a hit….that has nothing to do with him personally…cause 9 errors isn’t better than 10…IMO
CorkylikesBeer
June 25th, 2009
8:31 pm
Great idea…lets trade escobar
Original Jon
June 25th, 2009
8:31 pm
By the way, the Muts won today, so if the scores hold true tonight, yes, the Braves may still be 4 games out, but the Muts only a half game out. Dont think its the Phillies we should be worried about anymore.
rob from sc
June 25th, 2009
8:32 pm
It is almost to the point where I want Escobar to be traded to a team where he can be a superstar.
Steve from OH
June 25th, 2009
8:32 pm
My calculations are dead on and I challenge anybody to disprove them
Awww Coochie poo, you never passed remedial math, did you? Hey, look on the bright side, I think Vinings Jim is looking for students. He can teach you elementary arithmetic real quick like…well, we hope…
bravos2249
June 25th, 2009
8:33 pm
Frenchy bobbled that ball in RF last inning…could’ve gotten Jeter at the plate…but no he’s the golden boy…..Escobar was standing with his feet apart….that doesn’t mean he couldn’t field a ball hit to him.