3:48 pm June 25, 2009, by David O'Brien
Coach ( 2010 or Bust)
June 26th, 20091:37 am
Did I say SELLLLLLLLLLL !!!!! Yes, I did
June 26th, 20091:41 am
Bogo can play. He was 18 and holding his own last season. Any D-man who can do that in the NHL has a chance to be a great one.
Yunel’s got a lot of Met in him. You know, lots of flash and dash, loads of talent, et cetera, but when you get down to it, he’s probably gonna do some self-destructive thing that makes you wonder what in the hell he’s thinking. It stinks that Yunel is like that. I want to like the guy. He can flat-out rake, and has very good range and a cannon of an arm, but there’s just something missing. When I take into account that he may very well be older than his listed 26 (let’s say 28), I’m beginning to wonder if the Braves will just learn to live with the mental mistakes, or if they’ll cut bait. It might depend on how long Bobby’s around.
Anyway, I don’t care if Yunel is a leader, uga. I just want the man to play like he has a functioning brain at all times when he’s on the basepaths or in the field. Mistakes happen, but mental lapses don’t have to happen.
NO MORE BOBBY
June 26th, 20091:48 am
Go to bed everyone. This suck as$ team is not worth losing sleep over. See ya tomorrow night after we lose again.
SMOLTZ FOR MANAGER 2010!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
June 26th, 20091:50 am
Want to know what’s really screwed up (besides me)?
We scored fifteen runs against the Stankee’s and still managed to lose two out of three.
June 26th, 20091:52 am
i would rather have bogo. i think he will be the best thrasher ever.
dont know about esco. he is enigma. pure hitter. but i got a hunch he has no friends in that clubhouse, right or wrong.
Frank from KS
June 26th, 20091:53 am
I had the Thriller album too and still have it somewhere. MJ didn’t mean anything to me and he turn into quite a freak here in recent years….but as you said, the world has lost a music genius.
Like TnBrian said earlier….it wouldn’t surprise me that Patrick Swayzee(sp) is the next one we lose after his battle with his own cancer.
Jeff Francoeur needs to be more of a leader than Escobar does…..Frenchy has been up here for what 4 “full” years….(almost) and he’s worse than half the hitters in triple A. Yeah he’s gotten some hits…but how many of them have actually helped the team?
June 26th, 20091:56 am
“and he turn into……”
June 26th, 20091:57 am
Jackson certainly knew how to write amazing pop songs… putting his freakish sideshow of a life and child molestation legal troubles aside. His early music will always remind me of my childhood.
According to Jason Stark both Michael Taylor and Jason Donald are available. C’mon Wren, do the right thing and trade Vasquez. 2009 is in the tank, the Phillies are desperate for a top starter.
We can raid them for three or four top prospects and start the rebuilding process toward 2010.
Nate the GR8
June 26th, 20092:01 am
Coach go to hell you idiot we are 4 games out
His death is my generation’s Elvis Presley.
June 26th, 20092:12 am
Here we go again. Another ignorant fool speaks up. Four games out, four games under .500 and miles away from fielding a winner.
Look, just because you have bought the damn lie and somehow believe the remaining 90 games are something more than an effort at futility, I say whatever dude.
This team has pitching and a solid catching corp. in McCann and David Ross, everything else is deeply flawed. It cannot be fixed with another trade. Putting a band aid on a bullet wound won’t fix it. This patient needs major surgery and right now.
June 26th, 20092:13 am
We have played the least division games of anybody. We have yet to play our best ball just like the other teams have not played there best ball. We are in this for a long while. Thats not optimism thats the truth. You know it, I know it, the Whole World knows it.
June 26th, 20092:17 am
Bobby got his 2,000 win on the 8th…..we’ve won 6 games since then
June 26th, 20092:19 am
Think about this for one second.
We went out and got Nate McLouth. He has had ZERO impact. How bad can one team be when they go out and add an All-Star gold glove outfielder, and his addition gets sucked into the black void that is the 2009 Braves with no visible improvement to the roster.
June 26th, 20092:25 am
Thanks coach you made my point for me. We went out and got a big addition and yet the team hasnt played good yet. Its bound to happen with the starting pitching we have. You said it yourself we have a solid pitching staff. Well guess what Lowe has been OK he will get much better, Javy Vasquez has been lights out recently, Jair has been good, Tommy Hanson is showing why he is so good. Braves 4-0 in his starts. Its almost all there for this to take off and be a good to great season for the Braves.
June 26th, 20092:27 am
Yes, we lost the king of pop. But his music will live on while the children of the world can breath easier because there is one less child molester in the world. Sadly enough, it’s better this way.
June 26th, 20092:34 am
Coach ! How would you feel if someone said you would be better off DEAD ?!! Like the Pharoh of Eygipt cursed his own son with the power of his tongue !!!! God hears and see’s everything !! You need to rebuke what you said ! I’m telling you, you will regret it !!!!!!!!!!
June 26th, 20092:38 am
Karma is a BITCH !!!!!!!!!!
June 26th, 20092:39 am
Funny you say that Coach just shows your IGNORANCE. BTW he was acquitted of those charges.
June 26th, 20092:40 am
Said he’ll look at tape of what he did right last year when he was pitching at his best with the Dodgers.
So basically, he should just go look at his game against the Braves in LA, right?
June 26th, 20092:43 am
I just saw that the Myrtle Beach club beat Jeff Locke tonight.
I don’t really know how to feel about that. I always really liked Locke…
June 26th, 20092:44 am
They are reporting that Michael (I molested little boys) Jackson died from an acute case of food poisoning….
He ate a 12 year old weiner…………..
June 26th, 20092:46 am
Exactly right, our Braves were 23 and 26 when McLouth joined the team. They are now 34-38 (11 and 12 with the addition of McLouth). ZERO IMPACT. My point , perfectly put!
Coach, you are a D-Bag… seriously.
Some really classy people in this world.
June 26th, 20092:47 am
So…I’m probably one of the biggest Yunel fans out there. I’ve loved him since his days in the minors. I saw him play quite a few games then and have watched him closely ever since. I love the whistling that a lot of people hate.
I was at the game tonight, and I’ll be there tomorrow night. Yunel’s hip seems to have been bothering him all week, but he looks to be toughing it out and playing through it. However, he definitely looked to tweak it again tonight. When he was stretching it out at first while the Yanks changed pitchers, he talked to Hubby a good bit. I was sitting just beyond first base. Yunel look to be telling him that he had done something on that play at SS. From all the pointing and demostration…that’s what it looked like to me. I also agreed with that because he was really favoring it after that as well.
Anyway, after that point…it only got worse. It wasn’t his night and his hip was REALLY bothering him. I can’t believe he didn’t come out of the game…but then again, he’s Yunel and I’m not surprised. He was barely moving after that though. I don’t remember him running onto the field or off of the field after that. He walked…slowly…limping.
I know a lot of people have never like Yunel, and I’m glad that he does have a fair share of supporters out there now. I’ve never not like him. I’ve always love the way in which he plays the game and fire in which he approaches it. I believe he has improved the way he handles himself greatly over the past year. Twice tonight…a called strike three and when he got knocked down by a pitch… he didn’t jaw much at all. Especially when he got knocked down. He got right back up and in the box. That’s not something hhe would have done last year. He’s come along way.
With his background, I don’t think you can expect a total transformation in one year. However, he has made large strides. I don’t understand some of the mistakes he’s making this year though. It’s not like him AT ALL! However, I do think that it can be associated with everything that he’s trying to change/adjust.
The Spanish players play with a love for the game that you don’t see in many American players. I’ve always been drawn to them because of that. I love to watch them play the game because it’s obvious that they TRULY love it. I believe Yunel is struggling trying to make too many people happy now. And, I don’t blame him. I’m sure he fears that failure/benching again. He doesn’t want that nor can he afford it.
Joe has really been tough on him…especially since the benching. I understand a lot of what Joe says yet at the same time I don’t. Joe stays on Yunel too much when, with this team we have now, there’s a lot of stuff that can be said about others. It’s not just Yunel. He’s driving in runs.
And off the subject of Yunel…I really can’t stand Anderson. He’s extremely lazy and doesn’t look like he wants to be out there at all. He looks like he’s being made to play against his will. He has cost us quite a bit this season.
So…off my soap box at the wee hours of the morning. I’m going to catch some sleep before heading back to the field tomorrow, and I hope that Yunel miraculously feels better tomorrow. I would love to see him out there again, but if he’s moving as limited as he was tonight…he needs to rest…definitely!
Funny, I don’t ever recall Elvis molesting little children……..
Or living with a monkey………..
June 26th, 20092:50 am
OMG , you feel the need to defend the man because he is dead. You are undoubtedly a DEMOCRAT. I’m gonna go make my rounds and see to it that all the drunks made it back to the dorms safe and sound. But I’ll be laughing about that last comment. Ya’ll have a good one.
Yeah ! These will classy people will get what is coming to them !! And it won’t take long either !!! So, just go right ahead and laugh and make jokes !! The end won’t be to long for you !!!!!
June 26th, 20092:51 am
No need to thank us for waking up the Yankees. No really, it was no problem…
June 26th, 20092:53 am
deadperverts – I don’t even have a comment for you…
June 26th, 20092:54 am
I meant to say these real classy people !! I would love to be there when these classless get what’s coming to them !! And there will be witnesses there like the bible says !!!
June 26th, 20092:55 am
To whoever called me a smartass this afternoon…
You must be new to the blog. Hello, I’m Roman Gal, resident smartass. Nice to meet you.
June 26th, 20092:57 am
hmmm… Coach… let’s leave politics out of here. Unless you want to talk about Republican Governors – who lead the witch hunt against Clinton – who fly around the world to cheat on their wife…
Anyways. Back to baseball… And I hate to agree with you on that, Coach, but it is time to focue on 2010. Could it be that this is what FW had in mind anyways, but just didn’t tell anybody publicly?
June 26th, 20092:58 am
I don’t know about yous guys, but I am just so excited that I got to spend 4 hours with Chip Caray tonight. In retrospect, I probably should’ve turned the volume all the way up just to take in the full effect of Chip Caray. You know what they say, though…Hindsight is 20/20.
June 26th, 20092:59 am
Don’t you people have anything better to do than argue with Coach? Where’s Capt Caveman when you need him?!
June 26th, 20093:00 am
Coach is absolutely positive that we would have a better record without McClouth. We should trust his word because he knows these things. We should also accept the fact that we need to trade Vasquez, Chipper, Gonzalez, Soriano, and KK for prospects. We are four games back and no team in the history of sports has ever overcame such an insurmountable lead.
“BTW he was acquitted of those charges.”
Right on brother. You tell em. If the glove does not fit… you MUST acquit! Especially if that glove has sequins on it.
June 26th, 20093:01 am
Don’t you people have anything better to do than argue with Coach?
Haha…look at me, on a blog at 3 o’clock in the morning asking people if they have anything better to do…
June 26th, 20093:06 am
Anyways, glad to see there are still some “normal” people left on the blog. If you consider someone sitting in front of a computer at 3 a.m. “normal”… Hmmmm… maybe I should be doing some work… it is 9 a.m. here, after all.
June 26th, 20093:09 am
“Could it be that this is what FW had in mind anyways, but just didn’t tell anybody publicly?” GermanBravesFan
At one time I wondered the same thing. Even brought it up on the blog. But had that been what Wren was up to, not a chance in hell he overpays for Lowe like he did. He would have found a bandaid, or just went with Smoltz and Glavine for sentimental purposes.
I think Wren was/is trying to win this year, but has shown he’s unwilling to give up any pieces that he intends on being a long-term part of this organization.
Obviously, Schafer is their guy in CF for years to come (they hope), and with Heyward on his way. There was literally zero need for Gorkys. I think Gorkys was always going to be a trade chip. Unless he FORCED them to call him up and play, by being too damn good to ignore.
But unfortunately, Wren is stuck between a rock and a hard place, with that stance. Some fans EXPECT to win now, yet the only way to do that is to give up a Heyward, Hanson, Schafer, Freeman, etc…
Those are the only guys that are gonna bring a big enough bat to make a difference, IMO. That, or Vazquez. But giving up Vazquez kind of concedes the season anyhow, doesn’t it? Unless Wren is CERTAIN Hudson can contribute.
I’m OK with not making a big move to make a run this year. However, I would love a move (or two) that would rid the roster of KJ and Jeff. So I suspect Wren has some moves up his sleeve before the deadline.
June 26th, 20093:10 am
In honor of the Red Sox coming to town, I just I should tell you of the time I got a Red Sox fan to do the Tomahawk Chop at Turner Field.
Once upon a time, I went to Turner Field and sat next to a Red Sox fan. After much persuasion, he did the Tomahawk Chop. The end.
Dang, I am a good story-teller. New profession? I.think.so.
June 26th, 20093:14 am
They got computers in prison?
Good story!! and someone has to tell the idiot is wrong tonight was my night.
June 26th, 20093:15 am
someone has to tell the idiot “he” is wrong
June 26th, 20093:29 am
The pitching staff blew it for Atlanta today. Lowe was awful today (2 games in a row) and basically made the game impossible to win after 2 innings. Our offense started clicking though which is good – Garret Anderson getting great swings on the bat, Frenchy getting some hits and Escobar in the 5 spot was a great success.
June 26th, 20093:31 am
They got MJ videos on MTV….cool….never been a “big” fan…but his videos are good
June 26th, 20093:32 am
Has anyone else noticed how many balls near the head Escobar is getting? I swear, I could count at least 3 or 4 in the past couple weeks. I know some players don’t like the way he acts on the field but I don’t expect them to throw at him for it.
June 26th, 20093:35 am
I remember watching the “Thriller” video when it first came out… i was 10, and didn’t sleep the next two nights.
June 26th, 20093:38 am
southbeachdietfreak Sounds thrilling.
southbeachdietfreak Sounds thrilling…
June 26th, 20093:39 am
Man ! I feel old if you were ten when thriller came out !!
June 26th, 20093:46 am
LOL, Brave New World.
not hatin’ or anything, but a popular ’80’s joke was: what do the Braves and Michael Jackson have in commmon? A: Both wear a glove for no apparent reason.
June 26th, 20093:51 am
Someone tell all the Sox fans in ATL the games have been rained out.
June 26th, 20095:12 am
Great article on Braves’ freak injuries! I know he wasn’t a Brave at the time, but Chuck James deserves to be on that list with his cement pond diving mishap.
June 26th, 20096:07 am
DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA YANKEES WIN DAAAAAAAAAAAAA YANKEES WIN IWIN ITOLD YOU BRAVES FANS THEY SUX AS USUAL IM RIGHT THEY ARE ON AND 8GAME LOSING STREAK I WLL BE LOVING IT SOON AS THE BRAVES GO OUT LIKE THE LOGHT THANK GOD
June 26th, 20096:08 am
THE WORD WAS LIGHT
June 26th, 20096:16 am
you people need to find another team,the braves sux,come join the yankees revolution of history,we have a good manager in joe girardi,we have TEX YOU ALL GAVE HIM UP BECAUSE YOURE POOR IN GEORGIA I SUPPOSE, YOUR OWNERSHIP IN COLORADO SUX ,WHAT IS SO FUNNY ON HOW SORRY THE BRAVES ARE colorado has a better record ,but your owners are in colorado,ahd to all you IDIOTS IN AMERICA ESPECIALLY GEORGIA MICHAEL JACKSON HAD WORLDS OF TALENT YOUR RICH BRAVES DONT
June 26th, 20096:18 am
icant wait to read your comments soon ihave to go and count all my money thank you braves for being so AWFUL it makes my like more easy
I don't understand
June 26th, 20096:41 am
Why are bloggers referring to the Braves as contenders? They are 34-38. Who gives a sh!t if they are 4 games back? They have three teams in front of them. It’s the same thing with this team since 2006. One thing is going so well and you don’t think it will get worse, then, the other wheel falls off. Just happened last night with the pitching. It’s a bad team.
June 26th, 20097:45 am
I don’t understand:
It’s not a BAD team. BAD is the NATS. It’s just not very good. What you see is .500 plus or minus a little, and that is what you get. Its a fourth place team right now with not much upside. The team is missing an ALBERT PUJOLS or a RYAN HOWARD type player.
June 26th, 20097:59 am
I don’t understand- The fact that they are only 4 games out with more than half the season to go means they are a contender for the division.
June 26th, 20098:11 am
Well, no one can fault the offense for last night’s pasting by the Yankees. Lowe’s had a rough patch lately.
Sorry to read Bennett broke his hand, but not sorry to see him not pitvhingh for a while. Who knows? Boone Logan might prove to be an upgrade.
June 26th, 20098:14 am
Tough night for Lowe. I still really like the signing. When a sinkerballer’s ball doesn’t sink, well, then you see a lot of what you saw last night. I’m not going to say this team is finished or anything like that, because, again, no decision will be made on whether they are buying or selling until a week before the deadline or something like that. So they’ll keep chugging away. They have been swinging the bats better, so that’s a good sign. My guess is that we’ll have our questions answered about this team after the first home stand of the second half – one week before the deadline.
June 26th, 20098:22 am
hey that the best bennett fast ball ever a strike broke hand to bad now he can watch his replacement show him how to pitch.Oh and braves is done cox lost it n his players no care and he should be fired!
June 26th, 20098:24 am
If only the pitching and the offense can get on the same page. Lowe has had a bad stretch, but his track record should ease people’s minds. Big start for Jair tonight. He has not pitched well these past few starts either. The braves schedule doesnt get easier after this homestand. At the Nats (they always give the braves fits), 3 at the cubs, followed by 4 in Colorado…Yikes
June 26th, 20098:25 am
Efrim, I think your right, though this homestand against the Yanks and Red Sox will be telling.
For those who say the Braves are still in contention, they are. They may just catch fire in the second half and finish ahead of the Mets and Phils. But who’s to say that one of those two teams won’t turn it on?
This might be an unusual year in the NL East, where the winner doesn’t have to rack up 90+ wins. But if it turns out to be typical, to win 90 games, the Braves have to go 56-34 (.630) from this point on.
That’s not out of reach, but a lot of things would have to fall into place for the Bravos to reach that threshold. I’m not seeing that right now.
June 26th, 20098:26 am
Um willieg Micheal jackson was born in Gary Indiana not Ga.and one thing is rockies have better players then we do and some here like the shortstop quit and are CF quit at start of season….and bobby n TP are asleep is all we be okay after redsox win all 3 here….and i hope smoltz next start be better!
June 26th, 20098:30 am
So where are we right now?
We are 4 games back in a bad division playing uninspired baseball. Do we have a chance to win this division? Sure but I doubt it.
The reason we will not win is simple. We are playing up to our talent level and need to upgrade the team. The current roster is not good enough. The Phillies will upgrade. The Mets will get healthier and upgrade and the Braves will stand pat without a major move. We will not take on salary and the farm system is getting pretty bare after the Vasquez and McLouth trades. If we don’t offer one of the untouchables there is not much left to make a trade.
The Phills and Mets will improve. The Braves have what they will have and its just not good enough for this year.
June 26th, 20098:32 am
Certainly, with the amount of games back they are and the number of games remaining, the Braves are contenders for the division. They are not, however, contenders for the championship. That means World Series. Very similar to the Hawks two years ago when they were the 8th seed. Why people were excited by that I’ll never understand. They were under .500, same as the Braves now. Come talk to me when you win more games than you lose. Ok, let’s assume they win the division. Whoopeee! What, are you going to put up another flag? Granted, it is something to work for, as the division is a necessary first step towards a World Series. But just because someone must win the division, even by default, doesn’t make the Braves a good team.
June 26th, 20098:42 am
We are playing the best teams in the MAJORS right now with the Yankees and Red Sox. We have played a competitive series against both. the pitching let us down last night. if its not one thing its the other. The bats have been working and pitching would work but then we would let them go defensively. Last night was combo of bad pitching and fielding. the pitching hurts us and took us out of it.
I’m sick of the Chipper bashing. He is the most consistent hitter in all of baseball. give the guy a break. He is here to stay until he retires hence the contract EXTENSION he signed in the offseason. frankly, they would suck without him.
Frenchy seems to be coming around. Prado is playing well. the lineup was awesome last night. i loved seeing escobar down in the lineup last night with more opportunities to drive in runs, and he came through. the kid is a run producer, plain and simple. he will get the job done. Prado came through with a couple hits and looked a lot better than the struggling KJ.
If Bobby keeps the lineup like this, look for a serious improvement. Let’s face it, the yankees have the top offensive team in all the majors. they are going to score their runs. its only a matter of time when they start wearing down your pitchers. i’m just glad we play in a division that is struggling so heavily.
once we start playing our division we will get back in it.
June 26th, 20098:43 am
well said dan
June 26th, 20098:44 am
about contenders for division not world series other is crap
June 26th, 20098:46 am
1B, RF and LF are absolutly killing us. I know people don’t think the Braves are concerned with 1B but the there and the corner outfield positions are your power spots.
Phils – 55 Hr and 155 RBI from those three positions.
Braves 11 Hr and 87 RBI
Marlins 30 HR 120 RBI from their corners and 1B and those players are not even their strength.
The Braves can not win the division without at least one ofensive producer in one of those spots. Does anyone really believe the Braves will be in it at the end if they average 8 HR and 60 RBI from all three of these positions?
June 26th, 20098:49 am
Yanks’ offense had been slumping before the Atlanta series.
The Yanks may be a good team, but they’re no longer an awesome team. Right now, I don’t know if they’re as good as the Dodgers.
I think the AL East is the Bosox to lose.
June 26th, 20098:51 am
glord… the Bravos could be, but their pitching would have to be exceptional. I’m not counting on it.
June 26th, 20098:52 am
would the Cubs win on Monday night not give us that series victory?
June 26th, 20098:56 am
Bennett is an ignorant, no-talent redneck. just release him and be done with him. he stinks.
June 26th, 20098:58 am
Yeah, well the recent trend continues BravesGrrrl: Twins win. Braves…not so much.
Gonna be a LONG weekend in Hotlanta.
June 26th, 20099:00 am
glavine could be a middle inning guy????????
June 26th, 20099:01 am
he cant be any worse than bennett
June 26th, 20099:09 am
Oh, yes, he can… Glavine’s toast. He’s the only one who doesn’t know it.
Wren and Cox are giving Boone Logan a shot. Might as well.
June 26th, 20099:10 am
There are 16 teams in the NL. Our RF ranks 15th among his peers for OPS for all NL RFs. LF ranks 14th. 2B ranks 15th. Finally 1B ranks 15th as well. Ouch!
June 26th, 20099:13 am
Jeff Bennet breaks hand and goes on DL?
There have to be a lot of jokes in there . . .
June 26th, 20099:15 am
Ouch is right. Things continue for the Braves as is, they’ll be sellers at deadline. I believe Wren would try to market Kelly Johnson and Francouer.
Patron Saint of the Lost Art
June 26th, 20099:16 am
Oh yeah there are, I’ve got one…If not for breaking his hand, Jeff Bennet would have been back in the game the next night. hahahahahahahahaha
The Yanks’ offense was essentially revived when Jeff Bennet tried to convince everyone that he could get an 0-2 fast ball past A-Rod.
Similar to the Cubs in 2007, it appears that a manager getting ejected against the Braves may be looked upon as a key moment in a team turning its season around.
Bobby gets ejected all the time. Where is our turnaround?
the lineup did look alot better last night, with escobar pushing everyone down in the order…with garrett hot, when casey gets back to hitting .300, the outs are much tougher to get.
but tonight, since were facing a righty, we will probably see kelly back in there to hopefully break out, and if he doesnt, we will need another shutout from braves pitching.
i will be there tonight by the way. im really looking forward to it.
June 26th, 20099:19 am
Oh, yeah, bad pitch call by Bennett.
Escobar… Braves’ future 3B?
June 26th, 20099:31 am
I’m back and you know what I am going to say. Here it comes:
Get prospects back that can help in 2010 and beyond.
June 26th, 20099:33 am
trade for holliday
trade for derosa
trade for f. lopez
trade for players that can help win this year. forget 2010 and beyond.
June 26th, 20099:35 am
Time to restock the farm.
Try to sell KJ and JF
June 26th, 20099:38 am
The good thing about last night is that after 62 days Cox has finally put the correct lineup in the field and has them hitting in the correct order. I believe that this lineup has the chance to score more runs than they have been scoring. If the Braves pitching holds up we have a chance to make a move on the three teams in front of us.
June 26th, 20099:39 am
Sorry, 62 days should read 72 games
June 26th, 20099:41 am
How did Mariano R get a save in last night’s game?
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