Braves need win tonight — no, really

(more...)

2,112 comments Add your comment

the hope of the braves nation rests in your hands mr hanson

June 25th, 2009
10:44 pm

im sure this has been asked a thousand times so i first want to apologize for this question before hand:

could anyone please give me a quick summary on how the UZR ratings work? is this one where they break down the field into sections and give each position a section?

i know there is more to that but it is simply balls that you should get to and dont? and then divide the number of balls total to the balls a player actually gets to?

thank you guys!

jason

June 25th, 2009
10:45 pm

Brave4life, I don’t know about that. He has been a little off. I just think the umps are not consistently giving him the low strike. He is useless without the low strike call. It forces the batters to swing the bats.

CT in AL

June 25th, 2009
10:45 pm

Yeah Chip and Joe, JOSH Bard has a freakin’ cannon. He has a great future as a backup catcher

Jake W.

June 25th, 2009
10:45 pm

Hopefully this is just a June swoon for Lowe. If we don’t have pitching we don’t have a chance. Lowe has got to do better. Our fielding has got to be better. Need some better at bats next series from Mac. Keep this lineup. The whole infield outside of Prado who really didn’t play that much this series has sucked in the field but you can’t bench them all because that takes what little offense we have. Prado should be starting for this homestand at least. Give KJ a mental break, not one day off a week at least. We cost ourselves a series once again.

Doc Holiday

June 25th, 2009
10:45 pm

Wayne in Utah,

I also think trading Kris would be a HUGE HUGE mistake. Id rather trade Lowe than him.

7

June 25th, 2009
10:45 pm

Wayne, I hope we keep Medlen. The kids got good stuff and big motor. Just needs to settle down and that will come.

Mixxo

June 25th, 2009
10:46 pm

cabravesfan

June 25th, 2009
10:46 pm

I think Mac just needed to see this guy again :)

Roja

June 25th, 2009
10:46 pm

Yep, Mac is tired, take him out…….

David O'Brien

June 25th, 2009
10:46 pm

One pressbox wag just noted that that was Andruw Jones-like, that homer in the late innings of a blowout.

Heath (Cleveland)

June 25th, 2009
10:46 pm

Man…if we would have just gotten that earlier in the game…

joe

June 25th, 2009
10:46 pm

Wow, if it was still NY 8, this would be a good rally in the 9th

bravos2249

June 25th, 2009
10:46 pm

Now THAT is padding your stats…where was that with MEN actually ON BASE……Mac BETTER NOT be turning into Frenchy..I will lose it……!!!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHH

jeffrey d

June 25th, 2009
10:46 pm

McFann gets pessimistic and look what happens…

That’s a new homerun song! What is it? They’ve been beating Montgomery Gentry to death for years, that’s good to see.

Unknown

June 25th, 2009
10:46 pm

Way too late for that Mac.

Chop Chop

June 25th, 2009
10:47 pm

DOB,

That’s also called a Tex HR.

jason

June 25th, 2009
10:47 pm

Long time Braves fan, as good as JJ has been, and with the upside he has, he will not be ATL’s Ace in the future. Hanson will grab that torch and run. Hanson has the out pitches, plus he has that “IT” thing. You know, something you see, but just can’t explain.

bravos2249

June 25th, 2009
10:47 pm

I’d like an Escobar hitting 5th, a Prado hitting 5th, and a Johnson shone the door.

joe

June 25th, 2009
10:48 pm

Dave O Brien,

Put a crap pie in his face, please.

bravos2249

June 25th, 2009
10:48 pm

damn I meant Prado hitting 2nd…trying to watch and type at the same time sucks

McFann Ô

June 25th, 2009
10:48 pm

Huh…so now you hit a home run…no one on, 11-6…

Yay? :?

Justafan

June 25th, 2009
10:48 pm

7-11=anything can happen.

Brave4life

June 25th, 2009
10:48 pm

DOB

Only if he did the with the bases loaded

Brave4life

June 25th, 2009
10:49 pm

Only down by 4

Unknown

June 25th, 2009
10:49 pm

This loss is squarely on D Lowe’s shoulders. Thanks “ace”.

Jake W.

June 25th, 2009
10:49 pm

Too little to late. Mac gets a homerun late and the ump expands the strike zone later. If he had done that earlier, this game probably would have been over by now.

FEAR

June 25th, 2009
10:49 pm

man 5 runs…..????

Heath (Cleveland)

June 25th, 2009
10:50 pm

I’m interested in the JF AB. Would like to see more proof that he might be figuring something out.

Brave4life

June 25th, 2009
10:50 pm

Justafan

When the bring iin MO we are dead

joe

June 25th, 2009
10:50 pm

At least we have the right pitchers going against Boston.

FEAR

June 25th, 2009
10:50 pm

oh were gonna do this!!! hahaha

Brave4life

June 25th, 2009
10:51 pm

Loved Lowe against the Bosox, but he blew it,

CT in AL

June 25th, 2009
10:51 pm

This loss is squarely on D Lowe’s shoulders. Thanks “ace”. – Unknown

I greatly disagree Unknown, Joe Simpson has persuaded me that every loss is Yunel Escobar’s fault

Roja

June 25th, 2009
10:51 pm

Except for Medlin giving up a 2 run double, Moylen giving up a 2 run single and Acosta giving up a 1 run single, we’d be up 7 – 6.

Doc Holiday

June 25th, 2009
10:51 pm

McCann………..you sure are an atlanta brave………..you get your hit when it matters the least.

Justafan

June 25th, 2009
10:51 pm

about 3hrs 45 mins. Umps getting tired.

Long time Braves fan

June 25th, 2009
10:51 pm

Wow, is the umpire ready to go home. I know its been a 4 hr game.

bravos2249

June 25th, 2009
10:51 pm

Jeff has NOT changed.

Brave4life

June 25th, 2009
10:51 pm

GRAND SLAM TIES IT

FEAR

June 25th, 2009
10:51 pm

JF hasn’t figured out nothing

Unknown

June 25th, 2009
10:52 pm

JF is one the worst out there folks.

jason

June 25th, 2009
10:52 pm

Seriously though, Right now my starters would go Vasquez, JJ, Hanson, Lowe, KK. Medlen is good young talent. ATL needs to decide rotation or BP. Then they need to send him back to the minors for a full season of one or the other. The only thing Medlen is missing is the demeanor and confidence of Hanson. That is going to be tough when you don’t have the repitore of a Hanson.

bravos2249

June 25th, 2009
10:52 pm

Looks at a FB right down the middle…..swings at one in the dirt.

Chop Chop

June 25th, 2009
10:52 pm

The umps screwed us again.

This is just sickening.

joe

June 25th, 2009
10:52 pm

doesnt show much. nasty pitches on jeff

Long time Braves fan

June 25th, 2009
10:52 pm

roja, yeah your right. we almost had a chance if it wasnt for those mistakes

Brave4life

June 25th, 2009
10:52 pm

We have to face BECKKKET tomorrow

Brave4life

June 25th, 2009
10:53 pm

We can also blame the defense today, 3 errors

Roja

June 25th, 2009
10:54 pm

I love it when our “last chance” in the 9th has an .059 BA

FEAR

June 25th, 2009
10:54 pm

wow let David Ross bat please!!!!!! not diory!!!!

Unknown

June 25th, 2009
10:54 pm

3 games out of 3rd place, looks like we will be comfortably in 4th place the rest of the season.

Long time Braves fan

June 25th, 2009
10:54 pm

yeap. Beckett tomorrow.

bigmacattack

June 25th, 2009
10:54 pm

The umps screwed us again.

.. not this again.

bravos2249

June 25th, 2009
10:54 pm

Welcome to the bigs Diory…meet Mr. Rivera.

Chop Chop

June 25th, 2009
10:54 pm

Chip didn’t see that the ball was deflected by the pitcher.

I fear that Chip is nearly blind.

Brave4life

June 25th, 2009
10:54 pm

Late inning life

joe

June 25th, 2009
10:54 pm

Wow, yankees fear the braves offense so much that they bring in MO for 1 out. lol

Chop Chop

June 25th, 2009
10:55 pm

It was a joke, bigmacattack.

jeffrey d

June 25th, 2009
10:55 pm

Diorys can’t even get a hit off of a regular pitcher

jason

June 25th, 2009
10:55 pm

bigmacattack, Agree, they didn’t help us , but they are not the reason for this mess of a season.

Brave4life

June 25th, 2009
10:55 pm

Mo really mowed us down lat night 4 batters 4 K’s

Justafan

June 25th, 2009
10:55 pm

Hear we go Brave4ever. There mgr takes no chances.

Long time Braves fan

June 25th, 2009
10:55 pm

did chip slipped a Jeret compliment in there? “nothing wrong with his range, just had a lot of spin on the ball”.. chip move to NY

keylargo

June 25th, 2009
10:55 pm

Cabravesfan

I just don’t see the difference a 34 year old DeRosa could make for this team. StevefromOH could tell you better, but with the defense JF plays partly off setting the offense of DeRosa would provide, it just wouldn’t be much of a difference. Better hitter, but not much but less defense = only a minimal gain.

Like you said, so many teams seem to be interested. The Marlins down here in S FL claim to want him at 3B, but they don’t have the pitching to offer.

RHR

June 25th, 2009
10:55 pm

Trade Kotchman for a quality defensive SS, move Yunel to 3B, and move Chipper to 1B.

WTF kinda chit is that? :lol:

bravos2249

June 25th, 2009
10:56 pm

Would it kill to have D Ross ph…and bring in KJ…..?

Jake W.

June 25th, 2009
10:56 pm

Will be interesting to see how Bobby spends this one.

Gotta love the Yankee fans. Nice to see what a billion dollars can buy you. No wins against your hated foe the Red Sox and 4 games back in June to them at that. The premier franchise in that division right now is the Sox. Can’t stand the team but its the truth. Rays are up and coming and the Blue Jays aren’t going anywhere. Billion dollars well spent if you ask me. Go Yankees.

jeffrey d

June 25th, 2009
10:56 pm

I fear that Chip is nearly blind.

The eyebrows block his view sometimes

joe

June 25th, 2009
10:56 pm

one pitch one out, or fluke single up the middle for diory. sorry diory, dont mean to knock ya, but you are pretty weak.

Brave4life

June 25th, 2009
10:56 pm

If it was 0 outs i would be excited but 2 outs,,,,,,,,,,,

McFann Ô

June 25th, 2009
10:56 pm

The defense lost us this game, not the umps.

I still haven’t been able to process that HR, BTW.

David O'Brien

June 25th, 2009
10:56 pm

Apparently the Yankees thought the Braves crowd was having a little too much fun. So they’re bringing in Rivera. Talk about overkill.

Oh, well, at least the pain should end quickly now.

Brave4life

June 25th, 2009
10:57 pm

is it game yet

Roja

June 25th, 2009
10:57 pm

This is a save opportunity since the tying run is in the on deck circle.

jeffrey d

June 25th, 2009
10:57 pm

I’d actually feel more comfortable with KJ batting

FEAR

June 25th, 2009
10:57 pm

maaannnn…………….WHY NOT ROSS!!!!!??

Long time Braves fan

June 25th, 2009
10:57 pm

our savior KJ is on the bench, he looked good against Mariano last night. 3 pitch strike out last night

Heath (Cleveland)

June 25th, 2009
10:57 pm

Rivera against Hernandez…. yep, I’ve got a LOT of confidence now.

Brave4life

June 25th, 2009
10:57 pm

DOB

no faith????

Roja

June 25th, 2009
10:58 pm

Gotta pad MO’s stats!!!

Bobby's Cox

June 25th, 2009
10:58 pm

we need a miracle…

Brave4life

June 25th, 2009
10:58 pm

would love to see mo and chipper

RHR

June 25th, 2009
10:58 pm

And be sure and send our thanks to Heap for that meaningless bases empty HR after looking like the poor man’s Jeff Francoeur when he was up with the bases loaded and nobody out when we were only down by 2.

Oh LOL Diory Hernandez vs Mo Rivera. :lol: Gee, wonder how this will turn out?

Long time Braves fan

June 25th, 2009
10:59 pm

the pain will go away soon, friends

Brave4life

June 25th, 2009
10:59 pm

That cutter is nasty

Roja

June 25th, 2009
10:59 pm

Probably the easiest “save” of Rivera’s career!! But it looks good in the stats.

Bobby's Cox

June 25th, 2009
10:59 pm

keep fighting Diory…don’t crush my hopes…

Chop Chop

June 25th, 2009
10:59 pm

Not a bad AB by Diory there. He looked okay.

Unknown

June 25th, 2009
11:00 pm

Go Braves…

Heath (Cleveland)

June 25th, 2009
11:00 pm

Score 7…and lose. Head ache.

CT in AL

June 25th, 2009
11:00 pm

Well darn, I flipped my hat inside out and everything :(

jeffrey d

June 25th, 2009
11:00 pm

At least he didn’t strike out

Bobby's Cox

June 25th, 2009
11:00 pm

we’ll get ‘em tomorrow…that’s what I love about baseball.

FEAR

June 25th, 2009
11:00 pm

man more bonehead crap from ol cox…..why the hell not put someone in there that can hit either Ross or KJ even…….diory has got no bat…….it’s a moot point anyway…….lame ass braves

David O'Brien

June 25th, 2009
11:00 pm

Cheapest save of Mariano’s career — four-run lead and he retires one batter, Diory Hernandez.

bravesgirlnc

June 25th, 2009
11:00 pm

Accd to Yahoo we had scouts looking at Jose Guillen this week. FYI

Wayne in Utah

June 25th, 2009
11:00 pm

Tough to send a kid like D Hernandez up against Mo. Seems unfair. Maybe he should have to throw left-handed in those situations where the hitter is hitting less than his weight.

Chalk it up to us being an average at best team.

Tomorrow is another day…..

bravos2249

June 25th, 2009
11:01 pm

The Yankees are 4 back of the RS but they are a good team…we are 4 back and we suck? Let’s face it they stink as much as we do….I mean we did score 7 runs off them…lol

McFann Ô

June 25th, 2009
11:01 pm

Night.

(Why couldn’t you homer when it mattered? :roll: )

Steve from OH

June 25th, 2009
11:01 pm

keylargo, Jeff is a -.5 WAR (offense and defense combined, offense according to wOBA and defense to UZR) and DeRosa is a 1.0. So a net 1.5 win gain for DeRosa thus far thru the season, a 3-4.5 win gain (depending on how far into the season we are, not gonna do that math right now) over the entire course of the season. WAR is “wins above replacement,” so a replacement player would be worth half a win more than Jeff up to this point in the season. If Cleveland played a replacement player instead of DeRo, they’d lose a win thus far.

If you wanna ask those types of questions, Braveheart is your man btw. I’m really not as big a “stathead” as many here think. I prefer reason and logic, but to each his own…

Add your comment