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6-4-3

June 25th, 2009
3:49 pm

18 Wheels of Love

June 25th, 2009
3:50 pm

Peterbilt

Peterbilt

18 Wheels of Love

June 25th, 2009
3:53 pm

FYI, new Patterson Hood record came out on Tuesday. Just got it myself and I plan to spin it a few times before giving it thumbs up or down.

kdbanks

June 25th, 2009
3:55 pm

DOB, you’ll appreciate this.

My girlfriend just called with a baseball trivia question: Who is Dock Ellis? Thanks to the MIB blog, I was quickly able to answer. She was impressed.

So take that all you “music on the blog” haters. Sometimes it helps impress the ladies.

SoonerBrave

June 25th, 2009
3:57 pm

Just heard that our old buddy Jeff Bennett went on the DL…broken hand from punching a door. Seriously.

Wayne in Utah

June 25th, 2009
3:59 pm

Lunatic Fringe

Don’t really know too many of the top college players, except for a handful. Jazz are picking behind the Hawks at 20. Some locally are hoping that Hansbrough drops to 20th. I kinda doubt it.

That Rubio kid sure reminds me of Pistol Pete!

kdbanks

June 25th, 2009
4:00 pm

And I posted that before I even read the new blog and saw Dock mentioned again today – craziness.

Vinings Jim

June 25th, 2009
4:00 pm

According to Bowman: The Braves have placed Jeff Bennett on the 15-day disabled list with a broken left hand. According to a source, the right-handed reliever suffered the injury when he punched a door.

Vinings Jim

June 25th, 2009
4:01 pm

Boone Logan called up.

DAP

June 25th, 2009
4:01 pm

soonerbrave, do you have a link to that?

jukeandjive

June 25th, 2009
4:02 pm

Bowman’s blog at atlantabraves.com

cabravesfan

June 25th, 2009
4:02 pm

Vinings Jim-

Hey ;) Well, at least Bennett was smart enough to use his left hand…

X-Country Braves Fan

June 25th, 2009
4:03 pm

From Ken Rosenthal today:

Interesting perspective from a scout on the Braves’ Hanson: “I like him. I don’t love him. His arm action is not going to work for very long. He’s a short-armer, a dart thrower. And he’s stiff-wristed. Watch his curveball. He really has to work to snap it. They will get two to three good years out of him right away. Then he might have some problems.”

I thought the same thing about him short arming the ball. Hopefully it won’t lead to problems.

Ron Roberts

June 25th, 2009
4:05 pm

SoonerBrave, if that’s true, then the bullpen just got better by subtraction.

Ramblin Wrecker

June 25th, 2009
4:06 pm

Heard Jeff Bennett has been disabled (broken left hand due to head up a$$). I wonder if he punched the wall after his performance or after the Braves told him they were demoting him (which is what they should be doing).

Lunatic Fringe

June 25th, 2009
4:06 pm

Wayne, the Hawks need backcourt help, and look like they are about to trade 2 bench sitters for Crawford, a scoring guard. But they still might lose Bibby and Flip from the backcourt to free agency, so need to protect themselves. Jeff Teague another PG is another possibility in the draft. In some of the talk shows. Hansbrough has been discussed, and many seem to like his hustle, but I don’t think the Hawks would take him if he is there at 19, they have too many forwards as it is.

X-Country Braves Fan

June 25th, 2009
4:06 pm

It amazes me the inablity of so many pitchers to make quality pitches when ahead in the count. Jeff Bennett’s 0-2 to A-Rod last night being a prime example. You have to be able to locate and make them hit your pitch ahead in the count. So frustrating to watch that.

Soph

June 25th, 2009
4:06 pm

He punched a door? Nice.

Chris from the Rock

June 25th, 2009
4:06 pm

Sweet! No more Bennett for a while! 3 lefties in the ‘pen is a bit strange though.

getsomewins

June 25th, 2009
4:06 pm

Geez where have I been?

bravos2249

June 25th, 2009
4:07 pm

I’m sorry but I’m glad Bennett broke his hand….Kill me now

Vinings Jim

June 25th, 2009
4:07 pm

cabravesfan – maybe would have helped the Braves more the other way.

Soph

June 25th, 2009
4:07 pm

The mock drafts say the Hawks are going to draft PG Jeff Teague from Wake Forest. But, that was before the pending trade for Crawford of course.

Ramblin Wrecker

June 25th, 2009
4:08 pm

That’s what they should list as Bennett’s ailment:

15-day Disabled List: head/rectum inversion

GB

June 25th, 2009
4:08 pm

I don’t buy the Rosenthal comment on Hanson. Santana has a similar delivery. Don’t see a problem there.

Hillbilly

June 25th, 2009
4:08 pm

Did he really punch the door, or did one of the Braves starters use the door in the same manner that Frank Costello (Nicholson) used Billy Costigan’s (DiCaprio) shoe in “The Departed” when trying to find out if he was a cop?

getsomewins

June 25th, 2009
4:09 pm

Logan called up. Who went down?

cabravesfan

June 25th, 2009
4:09 pm

Vinings Jim-

You know, as soon as I typed that I had the exact same thought…

CorkylikesBeer

June 25th, 2009
4:09 pm

Jim..I read that as well from another source

Chris from the Rock

June 25th, 2009
4:10 pm

Hawks are drafting Hansbrough.

X-Country Braves Fan

June 25th, 2009
4:10 pm

True GB, as long as he is effective ans stays healthy it doesn’t matter what people say about his delivery. Mark Prior was supposed to have a perfect delivery and look how that worked out.

Robert (Chipper Is The Best)

June 25th, 2009
4:11 pm

That’s too bad to hear how Bennett went on the DL but the Lord does work in mysterious ways. :)

ChipperFan

June 25th, 2009
4:11 pm

Nobody went down, getsomewins. Bennett to DL, Logan called up.

DAP

June 25th, 2009
4:11 pm

getsomewins havent you noticed everyone talking about bennett going on the DL?

VaBravesfan

June 25th, 2009
4:13 pm

Cabravesfan: You said yesterday your father took you to games as a child. Here is my favorite father/daughter story. My 9-year-old daughter has a chronic illness that limits her avtivities. Last year I made the 500 mile trek to take her to her first Bravesl game. Seated in centerfield she had a baseball hand delivered to her by one Mark Kotsay. He will forever be one of my favorite palyers ever to don a Braves uni

fleming

June 25th, 2009
4:13 pm

If they brought up Logan then looks like Medlen goes to long relief or whatever Bennett was supposed to be doing and Logan becomes situational loogy

tvsportscaster

June 25th, 2009
4:13 pm

getsomewins, It was reported earlier that Bennett went on the DL with a broken left hand after punching a wall. Logan is taking his spot

ncscoots

June 25th, 2009
4:14 pm

Mark Prior was supposed to have a perfect delivery and look how that worked out

Huh? I think you might have Prior confused with someone else.

Chris from the Rock

June 25th, 2009
4:14 pm

Does anyone have a guess as to why KJ has a career average of .296 against lefties, but .253 against righties. Some lefties hit as well, or maybe a little better against lefties, but a 43 differenital is rediculous.

getsomewins

June 25th, 2009
4:16 pm

Bennett on the disabled list.

Logan, O’Flaherty, and Gonzalez. 3 lefties in the pen, but I get the feeling Braves had nobody else.

Chris from the Rock

June 25th, 2009
4:16 pm

Can anyone speculate as to why KJ has hit 43 points higher against lefties for his career? Weird, huh?

McPoyle

June 25th, 2009
4:16 pm

Can Kelly grab some bench for a while please?

And when is the fad of writing something that indicates you are the ‘first’ one to post on the blog going to end?

Hopefully Kelly’s playing time and ‘first’ will end sooner than later

monty

June 25th, 2009
4:17 pm

I like Hanson, and I too have pondered his throwing motion. He uses very little body/leverage. If he did, he could probably hit 100. As he pitches now he generally flicks the ball. I have questioned whether or not his motion will hold up over time, just have to wait and see.

fleming

June 25th, 2009
4:17 pm

Mark Prior was pitched to death early in his career

Jeff321

June 25th, 2009
4:17 pm

So, not only is Jeff “give it up boy” Bennett a crappy pitcher, but he also has a temper problem! Sounds like he fits like a glove in the Braves “very respectable” clubhouse, eh?

StingerSplash

June 25th, 2009
4:18 pm

Big Papi is hot. Ellsbury is hot. Beckett, Lester, Wakefield and Papelbon are hot. Gonna be a long, hot weekend in Atlanta with all those Bostonians flying in. Sorry, folks, no clam chowder or frappes to be found, but may we interest you in some sweet tea (thank God Yankees haven’t discovered its wonderful powers) and some chili dogs from The Varsity? They don’t hurt (heh heh heh heh).
And … we may get to see Rocco Baldelli finally play at Turner Field! Just for the Red Sox … not the Braves.

CorkylikesBeer

June 25th, 2009
4:18 pm

Va..Kotsay is a class act! I am sure that was a special moment for you.

GB

June 25th, 2009
4:18 pm

What happened to the Twins blog? Where Wes at?

cabravesfan

June 25th, 2009
4:18 pm

VaBravesfan-

That’s awesome. Memories like that last a lifetime for both of you :)
I’ve always heard Kotsay’s a really good guy- that just makes me like him even more.

fleming

June 25th, 2009
4:19 pm

getsomewins – Gonzo is a lefty but also a closer so really only have two situational loogys in the pen but that’s still a lot.

getsomewins

June 25th, 2009
4:19 pm

DAP

June 25th, 2009
4:11 pm
getsomewins havent you noticed everyone talking about bennett going on the DL?

Apparently not that’s why I asked.

Logan is going to replace Bennett’s spot. This is weird, but I’ve rarely seen Bobby use a lefty out of the pen strictly to face lefthanded hitters a la Tony LaRussa. They also pitch to righties, a la Mike Remlinger.

getsomewins

June 25th, 2009
4:20 pm

fleming

June 25th, 2009
4:17 pm
Mark Prior was pitched to death early in his career

Dusty Baker destroyed his and Kerry Wood’s arms.

Jersey Gil

June 25th, 2009
4:20 pm

VaBravesfan ..Good story about you Daughter..hope & pray for her recovery….Kotsay is one of Gentlemen of Baseball..we need to hear more about this kind of player, not the daily story about player using drug. There are a bunch of player like mark.

David O'Brien

June 25th, 2009
4:21 pm

Yep, we just met with Bennett. He punched a metal door adjacent to the dugout last night with his left (non-pitching) hand. Broken fifth metacarpal. Will have surgery to put a pin it in.

Said the frustration of last night and his season boiled over, and he’s “ashamed of himself” for what he did — the punch, that is.

McPoyle

June 25th, 2009
4:21 pm

mark prior was pitched to death early in his career? he only threw over 200 innings once. and it would have to be early in his career since later in his career he hasn’t pitched at allll

David O'Brien

June 25th, 2009
4:22 pm

And yes, Boone Logan is the replacement.

"Chef" Tim Dix

June 25th, 2009
4:22 pm

Rosenthal comments are some what misleading as Big Red’s fastball comes from the same wrist snap position; hitters have to have a hard time discerning the heater from charlie.

glord

June 25th, 2009
4:22 pm

Martin has to play 2B tonight. Players may love BC’s patience but it is really hurting the team running KJ out there every night. At some point it is not a slump and it becomes how good you really are.

While baseball is not always just about the numbers sometimes it is that simple.

Prado Ave .289 OPS .808 (Behind only Chipper, Mac and Ross)

KJ Ave .219 OPS .658 (only ahead of Francouer)

fleming

June 25th, 2009
4:23 pm

getsomewins – They also pitch to righties, a la Mike Remlinger.

Generally not when first called up until they develop trust. Remember earlier this year O’flan only came in to get out lefties.

Steve from OH

June 25th, 2009
4:23 pm

Mark Prior was pitched to death early in his career

Ok, sure, but having one of the worst pitching deliveries in the history of pitching doesn’t help either.

Pickin' Daisies

June 25th, 2009
4:23 pm

And we all take a collective sighhh of relief.

Ahhhhhhhh

Bennett to the D.L. I’ll Drink to that.

Strike Out-field

June 25th, 2009
4:23 pm

According to Bowman: The Braves have placed Jeff Bennett on the 15-day disabled list with a broken left hand. According to a source, the right-handed reliever suffered the injury when he got punched by a door.

Glen W

June 25th, 2009
4:23 pm

I have a similar story about Chris Reitsma. I took my daughter to her first Braves game a few years back and took her down to the player’s let to try to get an autograph. I told her the odds weren’t good because the Braves had just returned from a long road trip and had gotten in very late that morning… so they probably had not seen their families yet.

Many players waved and such. One player walked over to the fence to sign autographs… Chris Reitsma… and he had blown a save in the 9th inning and took the loss that night.

McPoyle

June 25th, 2009
4:23 pm

haha stupidity… at least we didn’t lose somebody to it like the White Sox lost Carlos Quentin last year. Now that was a tough blow to them… he would have been the AL MVP if he didn’t break his wrist by hitting his bat

getsomewins

June 25th, 2009
4:24 pm

Dusty Baker the pitcher killer:

Prior and Wood were often left in the game making over 120 pitches in a game. One time, Prior had 130 pitches in a game. Geesh.

Now Edinson Volquez has shoulder inflammation and is out indefinitely.

Shamus Thacker

June 25th, 2009
4:24 pm

Richard Pryor was the greatest stand-up comedian ever.

BravesGrrrl

June 25th, 2009
4:25 pm

Thank goodness “Wes” hasn’t found the new blog. Maybe his mommy finally got him to take his Ritalin.

cphizzle

June 25th, 2009
4:25 pm

woohoo no mo bennett its boone time baby

getsomewins

June 25th, 2009
4:25 pm

fleming

Generally not when first called up until they develop trust. Remember earlier this year O’flan only came in to get out lefties.

So now Logan becomes the situational lefty then, and O’Flaherty will not be? which we all thought he would be coming out of spring training.

bmacnation.com

June 25th, 2009
4:26 pm

DOB, you’re spot on in saying that this is near a must-win for the Braves tonight. But for me, the reason is different than those that you mentioned: I just flat out hate the Yankees.

mudcat

June 25th, 2009
4:26 pm

The rumor is the starting five got together and beat Bennetts pitching hand bloody, ensuring several fewer losses for the rest of the year. Welcome to the Bigs Boone Logan! You’re bound to be an improvement.

fleming

June 25th, 2009
4:26 pm

McPoyle – he only threw over 200 innings once

Not talking innings when talking about Prior getting pitched too much. Talking the infamous pitch counts- 140- 150 pitches a game sometimes if memory is correct. As getsomewins mentioned, the same was done to Kerry Wood

ncscoots

June 25th, 2009
4:27 pm

Dusty Baker destroyed his and Kerry Wood’s arms.

Well, I doubt that I’ll ever defend Dusty Baker on pitching decisions, LOL. That being said, Prior always broke his hands with his elbows, and always carried his elbow too high when he rotated. Do that long enough, something is gonna hurt. But he was winning, so nobody worried about his future too much.

Bob Dole

June 25th, 2009
4:28 pm

By punching the locker Bennett did what he thought was best for the team.

Scott K.

June 25th, 2009
4:29 pm

Hey did anyone hear that Bennett punched a door and broke his hand? Good lord people, it was first posted here in thread comment section 23 minutes ago.

McPoyle

June 25th, 2009
4:29 pm

I’ll give you Dusty being a moron when it comes to concern for pitchers. How bout bringing in Aaron Harang last year in that extra inning game… Harang was never the same the rest of the season.

Robert (Chipper Is The Best)

June 25th, 2009
4:29 pm

“Ashamed of punching the door”? He should be ashamed of his performance. Punching that door is the best thing he did all year!….I’m sorry. That was mean of me wasn’t. Lord forgive me. :)

fleming

June 25th, 2009
4:30 pm

getsomewins – So now Logan becomes the situational lefty then, and O’Flaherty will not be

If you noticed lately, O’Flaherty has been brought in to pitch complete innings not just situationally as he was doing earlier.

RHR

June 25th, 2009
4:30 pm


Atlanta Braves with David O’Brien
Braves need win tonight — no, really

OMG I hate you.

LOSS.

McFann Ô

June 25th, 2009
4:30 pm

Thanks for the new Blog, Chief! Clean slate…whew…

Odd news about Bennett…I guess odd is the word I wanted… :?

VaBravesFan

That’s a great story! Thank you for sharing that. I liked Kotsay a ton when he was here.

We met Glenn Hubard at Lowe’s in Dec. 2004–great guy. We talked for a while, then went about our shopping. When we were at the checkout, he walked passed us on his way out. He saw us and said good-bye. It was pretty cool.

Roman Gal

June 25th, 2009
4:30 pm

Kelly tries too hard sometimes, puts too much pressure on himself, over-analyzes.

I’ve noticed that when Kelly comes in off the bench he seems to do a lot better. I’ll bet that’s a product of him taking a mental break. Maybe Bobby should just tell Kelly that someone else is starting and then surprise him with the start.

I utilized this internet thingie and found that as a sub, Kelly’s numbers look like this in his career:

50 AB
.300 BA, .453 OBP, .480 SLG, .933 OPS
3 2B, 2 HR, 11 RBI, 15 RS, 13 BB, 1 HBP

(Let the Kelly-to-the-bench talk commence continue…)

Strike Out-field

June 25th, 2009
4:31 pm

I think the scenario is actually somethign a little more like this:

Bobby calls Bennett into his office after the game. Say’s “Jeff your a pretty terrible pitcher. However I feel sorry for you so I’m gonna give you two options. You can pack your bags and head to AAA for what may be a career or you can turn around and punch that door right there as hard as you possibly can.”

Jeff thinks about it for a minute before slowly turning around and rolling up his sleeve. Bobby leans back in his chair, grins, and while tapping his fingers together mutters “Excellent” under his breath remenicent of a one Mr. Burns.

TnBrian

June 25th, 2009
4:31 pm

Yeah, Bennett is definitely from Tn…see, we like to punch objects because we’re ignorant. Hopefully Logan can be better than JB. Hard to imagine somebody being any worse.

Crazy Trades McGee

June 25th, 2009
4:31 pm

The Braves should sign that door to a minor league contract and see if it becomes useful for the Big Club in the future. Or sign it to the front office and it can help them make decisions from now on.

What’s up with Big Papi anyways? Are those Balco Prescribed “eye drops” he’s been using to cure his problems?

getsomewins

June 25th, 2009
4:32 pm

I somehow Logan is not the answer to Bennett, but we’ll see. Braves will another deficiency (RF and middle relief)

Roman Gal

June 25th, 2009
4:32 pm

I was wondering what “injury” the Braves were going to come up with for Bennett after last night…I guess he helped them out, eh?

Boonie

June 25th, 2009
4:32 pm

Too bad Bennett didn’t punch the door with his right hand.

Supes

June 25th, 2009
4:33 pm

DOB,

Great news! He obviously did watch ‘Bull Durham”, use your NONE pitching hand:)

I know those numbers from Andy P. look daunting, but I watched him agains the BoSox earlier this month and get hit pretty good.

DWW

June 25th, 2009
4:33 pm

Thats kind of funny about Bennett. He said if Bobby wont put and end to this I’ll do it myself.

RHR

June 25th, 2009
4:34 pm

ncscoots – thanks :)

Chop Chop – I haven’t thought about Bases Loaded in forever! Used to kick my little brother’s ass on it all the time. Heh.

BravesfaninWis

June 25th, 2009
4:34 pm

The Braves should release Bennett if for no other reason then being extremely stupid.. You don’t punch objects like that and come away feeling satisfied.. Not sure if Logan will improve our bullpen, but he is not named Jeff Bennett so its worth a shot I guess..

As far as the Braves go, for me we will have a disappointing season when its all over.. Just when you think, wow, this team can actually hang with some very good teams, they play like they did last night.. All was well until the 6th inning when our bullpen couldn’t keep the Yankees off the board.. If the reliever is not named Moylan, Soriano, or Gonzalez, I don’t like our chances one bit.. Time for me to realize that the Braves for the foreseeable future are going to be nothing but mediocre..

cabravesfan

June 25th, 2009
4:34 pm

RHR-

Relax, girl- it’s way too early to start frothing… :P

Frank from KS

June 25th, 2009
4:36 pm

So who all here had the famous Farrah poster?

I wished I would’ve. It and the famous Heather Thomas bikini poster from the 80’s, during her time on The Fall Guy.

LOL

Ramblin Wrecker

June 25th, 2009
4:36 pm

So we replace a guy who doesn’t know what pitch to throw in an 0-2 count with a guy who looked so disinterested/lackadaisical in the Gwinnett Braves game I saw him in a couple weeks ago. Great.

Seriously Boone Logan looked like pitching was the last thing he wanted to be doing. Body language was terrible. He fielded a slow comebacker so slowly and deliberately that I swear he looked like he could have been fielding token grounders in batting practice. I hope he has more passion about himself now that he’s been promoted.

In that same game I saw a guy pitch with lots of passion and was very effective. His name was Juan Perez. He looked like a lefty Pedro Martinez (body wise), and had a very lively fastball that had hitters baffled. I remember thinking I wouldn’t mind this guy in Atlanta, and hoped Boone Logan wouldn’t be called up anytime soon. Ooops.

Scott K.

June 25th, 2009
4:36 pm

“The Braves should release Bennett if for no other reason then being extremely stupid.. You don’t punch objects like that and come away feeling satisfied..”

Hmm, have you tried it?

Coach ( 2010 or Bust)

June 25th, 2009
4:38 pm

Bennett put himself on the DL, cool!

getsomewins

June 25th, 2009
4:39 pm

Okay so let’s start up the replacement middle reliever talk (if Logan ends up not pitching well)

BamaBravesFan

June 25th, 2009
4:39 pm

Strike Out-field

Absolutely hilarious. Laughed out loud at work.

getsomewins

June 25th, 2009
4:39 pm

Who’s out there?

Elmer Dessens.

Steve from OH

June 25th, 2009
4:39 pm

I’m with scoots again on this one. Dusty’s never been a good manager of pitchers, but there weren’t any pitch limits other than “don’t throw any” that woulda kept Prior healthy. I suppose Dusty is case in point of why we should err on the side of caution in regards to pitch counts in young pitchers. In guys like D-Lowe or Vazquez or anyone else that is a veteran with demonstrated longevity, we can let ‘em go longer, but gotta keep an eye on the kids.

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