Mac and Mauer two of best — ever
Glancing through the Sports Illustrated that I fished out of my mailbox a few minutes ago, and on the cover is Twins catcher Joe Mauer. Story is about the possibility of him being the first since Ted Williams to hit .400.
Mauer is phenomenal, without question. And he’s a big reason that Brian McCann will probably continue to work in relative obscurity, despite the fact that, if he stays healthy, Mac could go down as one of the best hitting catchers of all time.
The thing is, so will Mauer. Yes, we’ve got two of the best five or so hitting catchers of my lifetime plying their trade at the same time, and both are young and hungry and have the mentality and desire to keep getting better.
Mac sees ball, hits ball
It’s way too early to say that Mauer will challenge Johnny Bench as, in my view, the best overall catcher ever. But if Mauer keeps hitting for power like he has this season for the rest of the decade and into the next one, it’s possible. Just that he’s already had the back issue, and with the DH option there in the future, or first base…. Well, we’ll see.
Oh, and yes, before someone asks, Mike Piazza’s longevity and stats made him the best hitting catcher in the view of many. Hard to disagree with that. But I’m talking overall skills. Mauer is a Gold Glove catcher on top of being a fine hitter. Piazza was a serviceable defensive catcher.
Bench was great behind the plate, though he eventually started playing the infield corners for about one-third of the season to ease the toll. Those who saw him play — I was in Little League when Bench was still a stud with the Big Red Machine, and I used to have a little plastic Reds helmet and pretended I was Bench, Rose or George Foster — would you agree with me that he was the best catcher in most of our lifetimes?
Anyway, back to Mauer. not only is he hitting .395 with a .464 OBP, but now he’s hitting with far more power than in previous seasons. He already has a career-high 14 homers in 177 at-bats, 10 as a catcher and three as a DH.
But before everyone outside Atlanta and Braves Nation bestows the best-hitting catcher label on Mauer over McCann, consider that McCann has a .300 career average with more homers (77) and almost as many doubles (134) and RBI (325) in 525 games than Mauer (58 homers, 139 doubles, 343 RBI) has in 608 games.
And remember, Mauer has the advantages of indoor, air-conditioned home ballpark and the DH option to get a rest now and then (he has 63 career games as DH).
Mauer has significant edges in career average (.323) and OBP (.404 to McCann’s .364), while McCann has a .504 career slugging percentage to Mauer’s .477.
So let’s wait a while and see what happens, see if both hold up and stay behind the plate for years to come, etc.
By the way, it’ll be interesting to see if McCann’s surge since his return from the DL will be enough to land him his fourth consecutive All-Star appearance.
It’s been extremely impressive to see what he’s done since getting the glasses and making that switch in the middle of a season, after never playing in glasses previously.
After hitting .195 with five-extra-base hits in 13 games before he went on the DL for his vision problem, McCann has hit .368 with a .444 OBP, .571 slugging percentage and 23 RBI in 39 games since he came off the DL on May 8.
He’s hit .371 with 13 extra-base hits (four homers) and 17 RBI in his past 26 games, including last night’s three-hit, two-RBI game with a double and homer.
♦ ”We’re playing good baseball.” That’s what McCann said after last night’s game, and he’s right. For the past week, the Braves have played well against good opponents, including a three-game series at Boston.
Specifically, they’ve pitched well. Very well. They’ve also gotten some timely hits in games they’ve won, but not in the games they lost in that span.
They are 4-2 with a stingy 1.38 ERA in their past six games, with a .272 batting average and four or more runs in four games. They’ve had only one homer in their past four games, that by Garret Anderson last night.
The Braves’ solid stretch of ball followed immediately after a lousy 1-6 stretch — that’s the way they’ve done it this year, hot to cold and back with little lukewarm between most times.
In that 1-6 stretch through June 17, they hit .234 with a 4.88 ERA and scored fewer than four runs five times.
”Now we just need to keep doing it,” McCann said last night, “because we’ve been here before, then tapered off.”
The Braves are finally playing better at home, which will be crucial with eight games left on this homestand, including two more with the Yankees, three against the Red Sox and three against the Phillies, who snapped a six-game skid last night.
The Braves are 5-2 with a 2.74 ERA in their past seven home games, including wins against Milwaukee, Pittsburgh, the Cubs, and the Yankees. They haven’t scored more than four runs in any of their past five home games, but still managed to win three of those because of their pitching.
That will need to change, I’ve got a feeling, if they hope to have a winning record on this homestand.
They just can’t keep counting on the pitching to limit opponents to three runs or fewer every night, as they’ve done in five consecutive home games, including consecutive shutouts the past two nights for the first time since 2005.
♦ The Good, the Bad, the Ugly:
• Of the Big Three relievers, Rafael Soriano has a 1.19 ERA and .190 opponents’ average in his past 21 appearances (19 scoreless); Mike Gonzalez has a 0.00 ERA and .189 opponents’ average in his past 14 apeparances; and Peter Moylan has a 1.35 ERA and .136 opponents’ average in his past eight appearances (seven scoreless).
• Yunel Escobar’s .331 average against right-handers is the seventh-best among NL hitters, while Kelly Johnson’s .184 average against righties is the worst in the league among qualifiers. Remember, of course, Johnson, is a left-handed batter.
Jeff Francoeur (.262) and Johnson (.267) have the NL’s third- and fourth-lowest OBPs against righties.
• Chipper Jones‘ .909 fielding percentage is the worst among starting major league third basemen, and his 11 errors are second-most among major league third baseman, behind Florida’s Emilio Bonifacio.
Chipper had 13 errors all of last season, and only nine in 2007.
OK, gotta get to the ballpark. This tune is something off Ryan Bingham’s debut CD from a couple years ago, Mescalito. He’s got a new one that just came out and I like it, but not as much as Mescalito.
A few new CDs I got that I’m loving: Elvis Costello’s Secret, Profane & Sugarcane, wherein Mr. McManus sounds like a rootsy American singer; Todd Snyder’s terrific The Excitement Plan; and Street Sweeper Social Club’s self-titled debut, wherein Tom Morello from Rage Against the Machine and Boots Riley from the underground rap act The Coup get together and lay down some hard stuff that sounds a lot like Rage on a couple of cuts.
“LONG WAY FROM GEORGIA” by Ryan Bingham
Oh sittin’ in a truck stop
With my cowboy boots and my guitar
I’ve been livin’ on a tip box
It was meant for cigars
Long way from Georgia
Long way from Georgia
Oh I’m out on the highway Yeah Yeah
I have no regrets
‘Cause I’m livin’ my way
Long coffee and cigarettes
Long way From Georgia
Long way From Georgia
Oh wind this highway is my poem
Oh through the night I ride on
I just keep on rollin’ on
‘Cause I’m a long way from home
Long way from Georgia
Long way from Georgia
Oh sittin’ in a truck stop
And a waitress tells me
Ah boy you got a good smile
Might take you a long way
Say boy you better make it count
‘Cause you’re a long way from Georgia
2,669 comments Add your comment
David O'Brien
June 24th, 2009
2:55 pm
This from Braves just now in an e-mail I got. I’m just pasting it, because I’m hurring out of here:
Tickets are still available, but we encourage fans to order in advance (at braves.com/tickets). Walk up tickets will also be available.
· All Turner Field lots will be permit only, meaning if fans don’t have a permit for a Turner Field lot, they will be turned away. Fans can pre-purchase discounted parking at braves.com/parking, but once it is sold out, no spaces will be available.
· We strongly encourage those fans who have not pre-purchased parking to take MARTA.
GT
June 24th, 2009
2:59 pm
first!
getsomewins
June 24th, 2009
3:01 pm
second. drat!!!
Chucktown Brave
June 24th, 2009
3:02 pm
second?
cabravesfan
June 24th, 2009
3:03 pm
DOB-
I hate correcting you but (as I am sure you know) Garret didn’t hit that Home Run last night, Mac did
cabravesfan
June 24th, 2009
3:05 pm
Heath (Cleveland)-
I think Rescue Me would be hard to follow if you jump in midseason (or even midseries)…there are a lot of continuing stories that just kinda flow from one episode or season to the next, mixed in with the “day to day” plots that vary from week to week. I actually loved that episode but then again, I’ve seen every episode that has aired…
BravesFan
June 24th, 2009
3:05 pm
I do believe that Brian McCann hit the homer last night.
keylargo
June 24th, 2009
3:07 pm
Re-post from last blog
McLouth of the South
That’s my point that when JV is pitching as great as he is, he just doesn’t have a lot of peers. He is among the elite right now and it is just idiotic to say something like “I’ll trade you Corey Hart for Javy Vazquez and Jeff F.
You trade Javy Vazquezs for Ryan Brauns.
getsomewins
June 24th, 2009
3:07 pm
They are 4-2 with a stingy 1.38 ERA in their past six games, with a .272 batting average and four or more runs in four games. They’ve had only one homer in their past four games, that by Garret Anderson last night.
getsomewins
June 24th, 2009
3:07 pm
That was B-MAC who hit the HR last night.
Lunatic Fringe
June 24th, 2009
3:07 pm
DOB,
I thought you might be trying to get some bonus points from McFann with this article, until that GA homer typo. I am sure she will let you know about that.
Nice Job though!
Jersey Gil
June 24th, 2009
3:08 pm
Not look good tonight, The Braves faces a First time Pitcher (Joba).
History say that we are not a winner Team when we face a first time Pitcher…Hope tonight we brake that….GO BRAVOS
Mr. Enigma
June 24th, 2009
3:10 pm
“They’ve had only one homer in their past four games, that by Garret Anderson last night.”
I think you mean Brian McCann.
McLouth of the South
June 24th, 2009
3:10 pm
keylargo,
Or prospect packages like those traded for Tex or CC…
Bobby's Cox
June 24th, 2009
3:11 pm
Nice that we’re selling some seats…can we have the Yanks here more often? Not only that but I’m sure we’ll play better than .500 ball if we played that sorry team every night.
Chucktown Brave
June 24th, 2009
3:11 pm
The last blog had some posts about what music would you have as your entrance music for your at-bats which intrigued me. What are some songs that you would come out to? I am at work and don’t have access to Youtube, so any links that you post, could you also say the song name in your reply.
getsomewins
June 24th, 2009
3:13 pm
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=At4gfKxJT4pGlG0mwChPgDYRvLYF?slug=ge-fullcount062309&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
Lunatic Fringe
June 24th, 2009
3:14 pm
Chucktown Brave
I have always liked “Cities on Flame” by BOC.
McFann ;Ô;
June 24th, 2009
3:15 pm
Fantastic Blog, Chief! cabravesfan, looks like you took care of the dirty work.
But before everyone outside Atlanta and Braves Nation bestows the best-hitting catcher label on Mauer over McCann, consider that McCann has a .300 career average with more homers (77) and almost as many doubles (134) and RBI (325) in 525 games than Mauer (58 homers, 139 doubles, 343 RBI) has in 608 games.
Ah! Take that, Elton John!
Seriously, though, Mauer is an amazing catcher (oh man, that was hard to type!)…but BMac could just be the better hitter. Like you said, DOB, Mauer gets to play in the covered, air-conditioned, air-blows-out-for-the-home-team-”it’s-called-home-field-advantage” ballpark. And he DH’s a little bit (that’s why I don’t like the DH…it’s cheating!).
Hey, if BMac cann get his D going (pretty please, Brian?), he could be a sort of a Johnny Bench. Johnny Bench likes him, too! He said so to McCann’s face at the 2006 ASG. (Johnny, come back! Help him with his D!)
Ah yes, and BMac’s made such a nice transition to the glasses. Gotta tell ya, it’s more than I expected so quickly. I thought it would take him at least a week to get used to them. Sometimes I love being wrong…
…sometimes!
chris from md
June 24th, 2009
3:16 pm
DOB,
I think McCann is one of the most underrated players in the league. He has also had marked improvement at throwing out runners this year. What is his percentage? It seems to me that when runners are successful it has less to do with our pitchers than his throws.
As for Chipper, has he had anything to say about his defensive drop-off?
Finally, any shot Soriano makes the All-Star team? He has an outside shot at getting his E.R.A. below 1.00 before the game.
Thanks,
Chris from MD
Chop Chop
June 24th, 2009
3:18 pm
Joe Mauer gets all the pub because he plays in Minnesota. The advantage of playing in that gigantic media market is patently unfair.
Chucktown Brave
June 24th, 2009
3:18 pm
gotta love Blue Oyster Cult
McFann ;Ô;
June 24th, 2009
3:18 pm
Lunatic Fringe I thought you might be trying to get some bonus points from McFann with this article, until that GA homer typo. I am sure she will let you know about that.
Yeah! That one hurt, Chief!
Just a typo…everyone makes ‘em. Plus, before I typed my post, I saw that cabravesfan had already pointed it out, so I thought I’d just get down to the other goodies…
fastasballs
June 24th, 2009
3:19 pm
It was McCann with the homer last night DOB.
Good blog & a good discussion about who is the better all around catcher. With Mauer getting to DH & playing at a more hitter friendly park I’d go with McCann as far as hitting & Mauer as the better defender.
I really think the Braves are about to put things together, IF Cox puts his bias aside & goes with Diaz in right & Prado at second. The Braves need SOMETHING out of the 7-8 spots in the order.
They don’t have to have some huge bat right now, just Diaz & Prado to get on base in the 7-8 holes, well that is if they get to play. We need our 1-5 guys hitting more times in the game. Too many times we have 8-9-1 leading off an inning or the pitcher because the 7-8 hole can’t get on base.
I really think we would see a huge improvement in run production if KJ & Frenchy were benched. What does Cox have to lose by trying this for a few weeks? Diaz & Prado couldn’t play any worse than Frenchy & KJ, not possible. If by odd chance they did, we get the same result as we would with the current two batless wonders.
We need the 7-8 guys to get on base & occasionally drive some runs in. Mainly just get on base to clear the pitcher & lead off with the top of the order. Too many times the Braves are forced to rally with two out because of the constant failings of two players & a manager who won’t play the better players.
Original Jon
June 24th, 2009
3:20 pm
Ok, I just got back from seeing Transformers 2 and I must say, I love it!!!! It was fricking AWEOME!!!!!!!!!! If you liked the first one, you will love this one, and if you didnt like it, then thats your right. GO SEE IT!!!!
getsomewins
June 24th, 2009
3:20 pm
Mauer is definitely a hitting machine, but what I was miffed about last year is the craze over Geovanny Soto. McCann is definitely better than him.
cabravesfan
June 24th, 2009
3:21 pm
McFann-
I was just heading you off- can’t have you pitchforking our fearless leader, now can we?
Buffalo NY Braves Fan
June 24th, 2009
3:21 pm
Chop Chop,
Since when is Minnesotta a “gigantic media market”
The KJ watch is on...
June 24th, 2009
3:21 pm
Space Monkey, I’ve sensed a growing opinion with some in the organization that Prado should be the starter if Kelly doesn’t snap out of this in a hurry. DOB
Johnson continues to struggle and is in a 7-for-56 slump since June 5. He has been a streaky player in the past, so there’s some hope he can get hot. If not, his struggles should soon start to impact his playing time. Rotowire.com
Kelly Johnson’s .184 average against righties is the worst in the league among qualifiers. Remember, of course, Johnson, is a left-handed batter. Jeff Francoeur (.262) and Johnson (.267) have the NL’s third- and fourth-lowest OBPs against righties. DOB
He is also 1 for his last 19, and that lone hit was a pop up off the green monster…Another 0-3 and he’s under .220…
CB
June 24th, 2009
3:23 pm
Man, you guys never made a mistake?
Shamus Thacker
June 24th, 2009
3:23 pm
“”They are 4-2 with a stingy 1.38 ERA in their past six games”"
Reads like a line from the 90s. Sweet.
McFann ;Ô;
June 24th, 2009
3:23 pm
chris from md It seems to me that when runners are successful it has less to do with our pitchers than his throws.
No no, it has more to do with our pitchers!
His percentage took a hit last night with though 4 steals the Yankees had against Hanson and BMac–went down to 23%. Those throws last night…mmm. Not so good. BUT they were the worst of the year, I mean…pretty much all of his throws before last night’s were very good. Crashing your throwing arm into the backstop cement will likely do that to a catcher…let’s just be thankful they weren’t playing in whatever stadium it is with the brick backstop.
jack
June 24th, 2009
3:24 pm
first
pryguy
June 24th, 2009
3:24 pm
USA Soccer up 1-0 at halftime vs Number 1 in the World, Spain…LETS GO USA!!!
Chop Chop
June 24th, 2009
3:25 pm
Since I played “Pretend,” Buffalo NY Braves Fan.
chixluvthebraves2
June 24th, 2009
3:25 pm
Buffalo Fan,
I think that was sarcasm………:) at least i hope it was.
McLouth of the South
June 24th, 2009
3:26 pm
Hmmm…
DeRo to play third, Chipper to first, Kotchman for prospects?
McFann ;Ô;
June 24th, 2009
3:26 pm
cabravesfan–
That’s for sure! I can’t afford to get on his bad-side.
Thanks for helpin’ me out! 
Eric from MO
June 24th, 2009
3:27 pm
Well my vote for greatest catcher would be Pudge Rodriguez. However, I am too young to have seen Johnny Bench. So no one get mad about that. Pudge is the best I have seen. Piazza was a better hitter, but Pudge was by far the better catcher. Piazza had no arm.
The_Superhoo (Montana by way of Virginia)
June 24th, 2009
3:28 pm
chris from md,
I agree entirely on your comment re: McCann throwing to second. I don’t know if his numbers caught stealing are any better, but his throws are WAY more on target than they were before. If nothing else, might make folks think twice before stealing on him.
McFann ;Ô;
June 24th, 2009
3:28 pm
getsomewins–
I am with you there! Almost looks like they “pulled a Francoeur” with the John Grove hype…
Though, Grove could still bounce back.
Heath (Cleveland)
June 24th, 2009
3:30 pm
So…I got two new movies in the mail from Netflix today… Lakeview Terrace and Frost/Nixon. Any recommendataion on which one to watch first?
Lamar1Banks2
June 24th, 2009
3:31 pm
I don’t the Mauer and McCann are the best ever but they are in the conversation
getsomewins
June 24th, 2009
3:31 pm
What’s the much ballyhooed Geovany Soto doing this season?
jason
June 24th, 2009
3:31 pm
keylargo, I’ll repost my response.
keylargo, Can we get an AMEN? And we could throw Francouer in for the heck of it
bravos2249
June 24th, 2009
3:32 pm
DOB
Wouldn’t a chuck…even if small…of Mauer’s stats not count as “catcher”, cause he DH’s…..
chris from md
June 24th, 2009
3:32 pm
McFann,
I meant to say more not less to do with our pitchers. Thanks for the correction.
Chris from MD
McFann ;Ô;
June 24th, 2009
3:32 pm
The_Superhoo I don’t know if his numbers caught stealing are any better, but his throws are WAY more on target than they were before.
Uh, his numbers this year are a little better than last year’s…he’s 8-35 so far this year. Oh man, last year was bad…I cann hardly type it, but here it goes: 21-114 for the season. Yow.
His throws (except for last night’s) have been so much better. That’d be sweet if it made opponents think twice about running…
Hu, I don’t think they’ve run as wild on him as they did last year, anyway!
Willy Wally
June 24th, 2009
3:32 pm
Screw that skinny little pretty boy Mauer (that’s the real reason Elton John wishes Mauer was a Brave). Give me that sloppy, chubby Heap all day, everyday. Catchers shouldn’t look like underwear models.
McFann ;Ô;
June 24th, 2009
3:33 pm
chris from md–
No prob! I knew that’s what you meant, just wanted to be sure everyone else did.
Salamander
June 24th, 2009
3:33 pm
Original Jon
More Hollywood cheese? No thanks.
I heard they’re going to remake Conan the Barbarian now… ugh. One of my favorite movies of all time is about to be ruined. Oh yeah, Hollywood sucks in case anyone was wondering where I stand on the quality of product that the major film companies put out (other than the few Oscar contenders each year that are usually decent flicks).
Shane (The original)
June 24th, 2009
3:34 pm
Frost Nixon was decent if you like history. Never heard of the other one
McPoyle
June 24th, 2009
3:34 pm
Yadier Molina? Really? If B-Mac doesn’t start for the NL it’s a crime. And I thought I saw somebody throw R. Soriano’s name out there as a candidate. I think that’s quite possible, the guy has been fantastic. Gonzo too lately.
Also… saying two of the best ever… isn’t that a little tooooo premature? Don’t get me wrong, there’s no doubt Right NOW Mauer and Mac are the two best. Now that Mauer has added the power game they both hit for Avg., Power, and high OBP. But it still might be slightly too early to throw the word “ever” in there. Just sayin. I may be, and would be delighted to be humbled in 3-4 years time, but for now, let’s just say their the best catchers in the game.
Chop Chop
June 24th, 2009
3:34 pm
Mauer has 233 career AB at DH (.330/.430/.476, 4 HR, 29 RBI)
Coach ( 2010 or Bust)
June 24th, 2009
3:35 pm
Chop Chop, your 3:18 is hilarious!
By the way, the Twins also have one of the best closers in the game. Joe somebody is his name????
McFann ;Ô;
June 24th, 2009
3:36 pm
Willy Wally Screw that skinny little pretty boy Mauer (that’s the real reason Elton John wishes Mauer was a Brave)
That’s what I say…
Um! But anyway…Right! Catchers are s’posed to be a little on the sloppy side, it’s part of the stereotype.
Chop Chop
June 24th, 2009
3:36 pm
He has 1983 career AB as a catcher (.324/.402/.478, 53 HR, 310 RBI)
bravos2249
June 24th, 2009
3:36 pm
Chop Chop
Well that’s still a lot ( A lot more than McCann “DUH”) and counts towards avg.
Buffalo NY Braves Fan
June 24th, 2009
3:36 pm
Chop Chop,
I thought it was sarcasm, just based on your other posts…. was just making sure…
Roman Gal
June 24th, 2009
3:36 pm
“Why does everyone get their panties in a wad when the Yankees are in town?” asked Braves pitcher Derek Lowe.
I was wondering the same thing.
Epinephrine
June 24th, 2009
3:37 pm
Kelly and Francoeur are two of the worst everyday players in the majors right now, per that ESPN list. Everyone marvels at how many two out RBIs we get-I don’t know if it’s possible, but I would love to see what percentage of those outs were earned by either Kelly or Jeff (or Garrett Anderson before late).
I’d be willing to wager a great deal. Now that the Braves are actually in this race, I’m not sure how much longer they can afford to let Kelly and Francoeur continue to try to make things right.
Anyway, pretty big game tonight. If the Braves can get a win with KK on the mound, the next five days shape up extremely well for the Bravos. It would be a huge, huge win. I’d say the odds are against the Bravos tonight, but let’s see what happens.
Heath (Cleveland)
June 24th, 2009
3:37 pm
Salamander:
I tend to think that Hollywood does tend to focus too much on special effects instead of plot, sotory lines and actual acting. Star Wars was a perfect example. While the technology was available to make Star Wars 1-3 really good movies, they seemed to focus on that too much and the older ones remain head and shoulders above the newer ones.
fastasballs
June 24th, 2009
3:38 pm
The Braves should be in decent position to make up some ground before the All Star game. I know the schedule is tough, but they play well against the best teams for whatever reasons.
The Mets are so banged up & they are facing a tough run of games as well, so I doubt they stay in second place for long. The way the Marlins are playing it might not be too crazy to think they could be the team the Braves are chasing for the division.
Philly has the offense to run off 8-10 games in a row, but their pitching is absolutely awful.
It’s going to be a good race in the East, I just hope the Braves are part of it. Even if they fall short I’d love the excitement of them being in it until the end.
Rodney Derrick
June 24th, 2009
3:39 pm
Last night the Yankees announcers said that AROD was tired and did not have his head on straight. This after pictures of him and Kate Hudson hot together in Miami. His connection previously with Madonna who played Eva Peron and sang about Crying in Argentina clearly a prelude to South Carolina Governor Mark Sanford reporting on his Crying in Argentina. Will this also affect attendance in Atlanta tonight by the neighboring state’s denizens?
VaBravesfan
June 24th, 2009
3:39 pm
Cabravesfan and McFann: I would give my right pinkie finger if my wife knew as much or cared as much about baseball as you two. In all seriousness, I mean that as a compliment to you both.
chc4
June 24th, 2009
3:40 pm
A tad early to start talking about McCann and Mauer being the best of all time at anything. They’re both still puppies… loooong way to go before that talk should even start.
Chop Chop
June 24th, 2009
3:40 pm
Based on the career numbers, Mauer is a better hitter.
McCann is a better slugger.
Mauer is a better overall catcher, but if both guys continue like this, we’ll see them in Cooperstown. No doubt about that.
richbrave
June 24th, 2009
3:40 pm
This just in from the deserted venue on RICHMOND’s BOULEVARD. Any professional baseball in this city will be played at “THE DIAMOND” in the future. No new stadium, not even a made over old one. RICHMOND baseball awaits the arrival of the WASHINGTON NATIONALS AAA franchise.
McFann ;Ô;
June 24th, 2009
3:42 pm
VaBravesfan–
Thank you! Man…what doesn’t your wife see in this game? I guess some people thing it’s boring…?
Chop Chop if both guys continue like this, we’ll see them in Cooperstown. No doubt about that.
You cann say that again!
Coach ( 2010 or Bust)
June 24th, 2009
3:43 pm
HEEEEEEELLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOO
Don’t forget, tonight’s game is on ESPN 2 for those of you who don’t have MLB.TV or Satellite.
Epinephrine
June 24th, 2009
3:44 pm
Also thought it was interesting that:
NEFTALI FELIZ is moving to the Ranger’s bullpen. After being a can’t miss prospect, he’s slipped a bit this year as chinks have shown up in his armor at AAA. Right now, he is just below a 4.00 ERA, though he is still striking out plenty of people.
The Teixeira trade has been lambasted by many people. But we forget that Tex put up darn good numbers for the Braves while he was here. And even though it didn’t work out, it did send a signal that the Braves were committed to winning.
Elvis Andrus appears to be the real deal, but like I said, we did get talent, and we also ended up with Kotchman and Marek as consolation prizes.
As for Feliz, Harrison (who has gotten shelled this year) and Salty, though…well, I’m just saying that the trade might not end up looking as bad as many people first feared.
Epinephrine
June 24th, 2009
3:46 pm
As for being premature on McCann-I’m of the opinion that he has been so underrated by the national media as of late, that any hyperbole may do well to push things aright. I have a feeling that the number of people crying foul over Molina v. McCann will increase after our whirlwind tour of the Boston, Chicago, Philly, and NY media over the next few series.
Lunatic Fringe
June 24th, 2009
3:48 pm
VaBravesfan
June 24th, 2009
3:39 pm
Cabravesfan and McFann: I would give my right pinkie finger if my wife knew as much or cared as much about baseball as you two
I made my wife and kids watch the braves last night while we ate dinner, and I was quizzing my wife on how much she knew. Not much. Did not even know who A-Rod was. Oh well.
VaBravesfan
June 24th, 2009
3:48 pm
Epinephrine: Agreed
Bobby's Belly
June 24th, 2009
3:51 pm
If you had your choice of Mauer or BMac and chose BMac, you drink to much – and I like BMac.
Eric from MO
June 24th, 2009
3:51 pm
Epinephrine that is why you shouldnt overreact when you see a bunch of prospects traded. Just because someone is in the minors doesnt mean they should be a prospect. That being said, we still traded too much, but oh well its in the past.
BossLady
June 24th, 2009
3:53 pm
Your name fits that action too.
VaBravesfan
June 24th, 2009
3:54 pm
Lunatic Fringe: Sometimes it just ain’t worth it, is it?
Turtsnap
June 24th, 2009
3:55 pm
DOB, your post this morning in the other blog about KJ/Prado brightened my day…. Now, if we just had a potential plan for Frenchy……
getsomewins
June 24th, 2009
3:56 pm
Heath (Cleveland)
Lakeview Terrace was a good movie.
Lunatic Fringe
June 24th, 2009
3:56 pm
VaBravesfan
No, I usually try to be by myself when I watch, easier that way.
bravos2249
June 24th, 2009
3:56 pm
Chop Chop
I agree…and Just wait until Mauer has to play outside next year in Minnesota
chris from md
June 24th, 2009
3:57 pm
Epinephrine,
Very well said. People act as if we gave up 4 All-Stars for Tex. Time will tell. Not saying it was a good move– just not the worst trade ever made.
Chris from MD
McPoyle
June 24th, 2009
3:57 pm
Whats the word on Infante? I miss him.
Duke
June 24th, 2009
3:57 pm
Heath,
Frost/Nixon is a really good movie. Ron Howard did a great job on it. Haven’t seen Lakeview Terrace
Epinephrine
June 24th, 2009
3:57 pm
Eric–yeah clearly if you have a do-over, you don’t want to make the trade. All I am saying is that along with the Marte trade, this might eventually might go from, “worst trade ever”, to a positive trade from the perspective of win share.
McFann ;Ô;
June 24th, 2009
3:58 pm
Speaking of McCann, I think this has been the best June of his career, combining power, AVG and RBI.
2009: 67 AB 23 H 7 2B 1 3B 2 HR 12 RBI 6 BB 10 K .343 AVG .405 OBP .567 SLG
Last year, he had the RBI (13) and some power (4 2B, 5 HR), but the AVG was down (.244).
In ‘07, he had the RBI (16) and a little power (3 2B, 4 HR), but, again, the AVG was way down (.238).
2006, all he really had going was the AVG (.365–no HR, 2 2B, and 2 RBI), but he was coming off the ankle injury.
In ‘05, he had the AVG going for him big time (.385), but had 2 HR, 5 RBI, and no doubles–but he was a Rookie, so…
He also tends to K more in June than other months. This year, he’s struck out 10 times in June after combining for 12 in April and May. Last year, he struck out 16 times, in ‘07 18 times, in ‘06 only 8 times, and in ‘05 only 3 times. That’s 55 career K’s in June–next highest is 48 in August.
Anyway, that was a need-my-thing-to-refresh moment, but I’ve also been kinda meaning to post all that…
rob from sc
June 24th, 2009
3:58 pm
Rangers have moved Neftali Feliz to the bullpen in hopes he can help later in the season
bravos2249
June 24th, 2009
3:58 pm
I know the lease for Turner Field isn’t up for like 20 something years…but I was just thinking of something. I know right now it won’t happen, but way off in the future if the Braves got a new stadium….where the hell would they put it?
Epinephrine
June 24th, 2009
3:58 pm
Also, speaking of prospects, isn’t Jordan Schafer due back pretty soon?
Adam Dunn
June 24th, 2009
3:59 pm
francouer = out the door (lets hope) a trade is in the works
kelly johnson = sent down or out the door (lets hope) and play prado full time.
thats it folks bring in a legit rf with some power and put prado at 2B full time and you got a great overall team
Epinephrine
June 24th, 2009
3:59 pm
Rob From Sc–Yeah I know, I actually meant to make that post earlier, seeing his name in the news just reminded me. But his numbers this year in AAA have certainly not been, well, Tommy Hanson like.
bravos2249
June 24th, 2009
3:59 pm
McPoyle
I read on mlb.com that he’ll start rehab soon on his wrist….
Infielder Omar Infante will begin therapy on his broken left hand on Wednesday. Infante is expected to return to the team some time after the All-Star break.
Crazy Trades McGee
June 24th, 2009
3:59 pm
This is the perfect opportunity for us to trade javy vazquez, jeff francoeur and kelly johnson for pat burrell
Canadaian braves fan
June 24th, 2009
4:01 pm
go to http://www.newblogofbraves.blogspot.com new entries to the blog
Heath (Cleveland)
June 24th, 2009
4:02 pm
2-0 USA(14th in the world) over Spain (1st in the world). Nice.
Interesting that Cleveland is trading FOR relievers right now. Doesn’t exactly signal that they are sellers, huh?
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4284492
McFann ;Ô;
June 24th, 2009
4:02 pm
Epinephrine As for being premature on McCann-I’m of the opinion that he has been so underrated by the national media as of late…
“Of late”? He’s always been overlooked by the national media. (He prob’ly likes it that way–and I kinda do, too, sometimes. It’s like he’s our secret weapon or something…) But I know what you’re saying. Hope he and the Braves tear it up against these tough teams!
Eric from MO
June 24th, 2009
4:03 pm
Epinephrine I didnt blog when the Marte trade went down, did people really think it was the worse trade ever? He had already played some in Atlanta and didnt look all that good. Renteria was a former all-star. Geeze, bloggers are so dumb.
David O'Brien
June 24th, 2009
4:05 pm
Same lineup:
1. McLouth
2. Escobar
3. Chipper
4. McCann
5. Anderson
6. Kotchman
7. Francoeur
8. Johnson
9. Kawakami
Ron in MObile
June 24th, 2009
4:05 pm
Derrick Lowe on espn radio new york
McFann ;Ô;
June 24th, 2009
4:05 pm
Thanks for the lineup, Chief!
Martin
June 24th, 2009
4:05 pm
HEY DOB!
Can you please ask Mr. Wren about Mark DeRosa….We all want him back!! Ask him if there is any shot it acquiring him..Everyday that passes by I get more convinced that Kelly Johnson is not our best option at 2nd base..ASk him please! even give him a trade idea…Johnson, Jo-Jo and Medlen or Bennett for DeRo!!!!
McPoyle
June 24th, 2009
4:05 pm
thanks for the update bravos. it’ll be nice to have him back come mid-July, although I can’t imagine a hang or wrist injury being a real easy one to come back from real quick.
2-0 USA? that is shocking! i’m not really one for soccer, but usa is playing out of their minds the past couple matches
keylargor
June 24th, 2009
4:06 pm
keylargo, Can we get an AMEN? And we could throw Francouer in for the heck of it Jason
Amen, Jason. Thanks for the backup. Sorry, I was away from the computer for a few.
And yes, I think any multi player deal will have JF and his salary dumped into it.
Heath (Cleveland)
June 24th, 2009
4:06 pm
So, if Johnson goes 0-fer tonight, will we finally see Prado?
Epinephrine
June 24th, 2009
4:07 pm
Eric, great summary:
http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/trade-review-andy-marte-and-edgar-renteria/
One quote from Sabernomics:
I don’t even want to talk about it. I cannot believe the Braves just traded Andy Marte. Unbelievable. There’s nothing left to say other than this is a very bad deal for Atlanta.
getsomewins
June 24th, 2009
4:07 pm
David O’Brien
June 24th, 2009
4:05 pm
Same lineup:
1. McLouth
2. Escobar
3. Chipper
4. McCann
5. Anderson
6. Kotchman
7. Francoeur
8. Johnson
9. Kawakami
Bobby Cox is LOYAL. The same two deadbeats are hitting 7th and 8th against Joba Chamberlain.
PWHjort
June 24th, 2009
4:07 pm
Epinephrine,
The problem with the Tex trade is it didn’t address a need. We weren’t deficient in offensive production. We didn’t NEED another 1B, Salty was doing just fine. Tex didn’t represent THAT much of an upgrade. What we needed was a starting pitcher. That 2007 rotation was awful. There weren’t many available at the deadline. But it was still stupid to trade for Tex.
jason
June 24th, 2009
4:10 pm
Javy is out pitching our Ace (Lowe). ATL will not be trading any pitching this year. ATL will have to do this thing with the team they have now. Unless there are some prospects that can be moved that I am not aware of. The ones I know are untouchable.
coach joe
June 24th, 2009
4:10 pm
chop- chop.. funny about minesota media market vs. atlanta..
CB
June 24th, 2009
4:11 pm
Eric, aren’t you a blogger? lol
Bobby's Cox
June 24th, 2009
4:11 pm
Ephinephrine,
Thanks for the update on Feliz.
I think what the Rangers are going to do is see how Feliz manages major league hitters in a long relief role. If he has any success they will move him into the rotation. That’s what they did with Derek Holland, who is showing MLB growing pains. Their rotation hasn’t been as good as it was earlier in the year, so I think they want to test Feliz in hopes that he’ll do well enough where he can be moved to, and bolster, the rotation.
rob from sc
June 24th, 2009
4:12 pm
I feel like Johnson could go 0 for the rest of the season and still Prado will be on the bench.
Jonathon
June 24th, 2009
4:12 pm
Make that 2-0 USA!
Eric from MO
June 24th, 2009
4:12 pm
Wow, I didnt know people were really that upset about the Marte trade.
jason
June 24th, 2009
4:12 pm
getsomewins, At least they are batting 7th and 8th….
Kentavo
June 24th, 2009
4:12 pm
Hey, when did we pick up Chris Burke?
He’s the dude that knocked us out of the postseason and we haven’t been back.
Also, is about time to bring up Brooks Conrad and give him a shot at 2 B?
He’s got 9 dingers for the G-Braves.
AndyC
June 24th, 2009
4:12 pm
McFann
What’s this business about Elton John and Mauer? Am I missing out on a joke?
Heath (Cleveland)
June 24th, 2009
4:13 pm
They are in the 87th minute now… now way USA loses this. Even though there was a stupid red card assessed against us.
rob from sc
June 24th, 2009
4:13 pm
In all fairness, Marte is doing well at Triple A
RHR
June 24th, 2009
4:14 pm
“Why does everyone get their panties in a wad when the Yankees are in town?” asked Braves pitcher Derek Lowe.
I was wondering the same thing.
Ha! I agree. It’s like…the Atlanta media is acting like a star struck teenager who just found out they have a date with a Jonas Brother. It’s embarrassing how wide eyed everyone gets when they roll into town.
njbraves
June 24th, 2009
4:14 pm
Another day, another blog, more comments about how bad jeff and KJ are. We get it. The same people don’t need to post the same exact thing every damn day.
rob from sc
June 24th, 2009
4:14 pm
If we make a trade for DeRosa, we should ask for Marte as well. We need Chipper Jones injury insurance.
ncscoots
June 24th, 2009
4:15 pm
Once again, you cannot trade Vazquez or Medlen this year; there simply isn’t any depth behind them. Trade one of those guys, and Plan A becomes “nobody better get hurt, not even a tweak”. That sound good to you? Or does the spectre of James Parr throwing three starts during a DL stint excite?
Next winter, Hudson will be nearly 18 months into his rehab, and should be close to normal in arm strength, range of motion, and endurance (assuming a normal recovery, the Braves pick up the option, etc., etc.). Trading a pitcher, at that point, might be doable. To do it now, to add a bat, would be like standing on a ledge and hoping the rocks don’t crumble.
Boonie
June 24th, 2009
4:15 pm
Why isn’t Prado in there? Is he still not healthy enough to play? KJ and Frenchy are killing us.
jason
June 24th, 2009
4:15 pm
rob from sc, Unfortunately, DeRosa is that insurance, and KJ will be back at 2B, Frenchy back in RF.
Heath (Cleveland)
June 24th, 2009
4:16 pm
njbraves
You’re surprised?
GT
June 24th, 2009
4:16 pm
bravos2249:
IDK, but they need to move it out of that economic debacle that is the Southside. People who would normally go to Braves games, don’t live down there. Every day that we have ‘thought’ about going to the Braves game we haven’t because of the crime and traffic in that area. The game would have been sold out yeaterday if Turner Field was located somewhere north of downtown, I guarantee it. No way has building the Ted at its current location helped that area down there. A northside stadium would help the bottom line tremendously…..
Eric from MO
June 24th, 2009
4:16 pm
CB yes, but when do you see me overreact and start cussing everyone. Look at the Vazquez trade, people were complaining because Vazquez is horrible. How many times a day does someone post FRANCOUER SUCKS! We know, get over it. How many times do I post during the games? Look at in-game posts and tell me bloggers are not dumb. People say Wren is the worst GM ever, even though he has not even been the GM in 2 years and inherited an atrocious team. By the way, the way he has built this team looks like we are going to contend for awhile.
Heath (Cleveland)
June 24th, 2009
4:17 pm
In stoppage time…USA going to the finals. Amazing considering they needed a miracle just to get to the semi-finals.
ncscoots
June 24th, 2009
4:18 pm
We didn’t NEED another 1B, Salty was doing just fine. Tex didn’t represent THAT much of an upgrade.
On that, my friend, I will have to disagree. A lot.
Crazy Trades McGee
June 24th, 2009
4:18 pm
Holy Santa Clause Sh#t, the USA squad is going to upend the Spaniards…
Eric from MO
June 24th, 2009
4:19 pm
Meant “for 2 years.”
Renegator
June 24th, 2009
4:20 pm
4:20!
Shane (The original)
June 24th, 2009
4:20 pm
Jarrod Saltalamacchia cant hit at all. His numbers this year are pretty bad. I never liked his swing anyway. But of course he is a former Braves prospect that we “gave away” so he must be a superstar by now.
Shane (The original)
June 24th, 2009
4:20 pm
its going to be 4:20 at about 5:30
CLE
June 24th, 2009
4:21 pm
Wouldn’t the Gwinnett Braves stadium be considered a “northside stadium”? How far north could they build the next Turner Field?
rob from sc
June 24th, 2009
4:21 pm
I know there are a lot of Kelly Johnson supporters on this blog, but he has been horrible this season. To me even worse than Francoeur because I expected him to have a solid season. Someone made a great point on yesterday’s blog that when there was an open competition in ST a few years ago, Martin Prado outplayed him. Prado has become stronger and can hit the ball out of the ballpark. I just don’t understand why Prado does not get the same opportunity as Johnson keeps getting.
Greg in TN
June 24th, 2009
4:21 pm
Afternoon denizens…
Excellent food for thought DOB. To me, the argument for best all around backstop of all time begins and ends with Johnny Bench, one of the cornerstones of the Big Red Machine that usually slaughtered us in the mid to late 70s. Campanella and Berra would have to be part of the discussion as well, however Bench had a great bat, a solid glove and great baseball savvy.
The BMac/Mauer debate is just getting started, and barring injury to either, it should be an argument that fans will have for many years to come. I think Mauer gets the slight edge now because his defensive numbers are a bit better than what Everybody’s Favorite Catcher has posted, however I see BMac making strides in that part of his game and he’ll bridge that gap in the not to distant future. Mauer has better CS numbers to be sure, but some of that advantage is likely due to Twins pitchers making more of an emphasis of holding runners closer to the bag than what ours do sometimes.
Nice to see the phenom introducing himself to Fort Knox The Bronx last night. It’s been pointed out that the Braves are playing much better in all aspects of the game, especially on defense, which has helped translate into some low scoring victories. Have to have more of that to say the least, and the Braves can certainly gain ground when the phillies hit town next week as long as the solid play continues.
jukeandjive
June 24th, 2009
4:21 pm
USA! USA! USA! Holla at your boyz!!!
fleming
June 24th, 2009
4:21 pm
It’s five o’clock somewhere
CB
June 24th, 2009
4:22 pm
I agree Eric,we do have some honeys on here, but I refuse to let them keep me away,lol. We may be outnumbered but we are fighters.
Bobby's Cox
June 24th, 2009
4:23 pm
Holy Cow, USA won!
cabravesfan
June 24th, 2009
4:24 pm
VaBravesfan-
just caught your comment about me & McFann- Thanks! I used to watch Dodger games with my dad as a kid…turned me into a HUGE baseball fan and I’m glad for it
Did D Lowe really say that about the Yanks? Awesome!
DAP
June 24th, 2009
4:25 pm
if the Braves got a new stadium….where the hell would they put it?
im not sure the the land layout would support it, but they need to put it where the olympic centennial park thingy is now, near the aquarium, cnn center, phillis arena and georgia dome…those thing could be bunched together to create a better atmosphere OUTSIDE the ball park. restaurants and street performers could be out there before games, and make it a better atmosphere. the way it is now, you get the feeling youd better hurry up and get inside turner field, because theres no telling what could happen to you out there.
so thats where id put it. not that traffic and parking arent bad enough already, but as long as stuff isnt going on at the same time (it usually isnt) then turner field could share the phillips arena/georgia dome parking, ect.
McLouth of the South
June 24th, 2009
4:25 pm
PWHjort
June 24th, 2009
4:07 pm
Epinephrine,
The problem with the Tex trade is it didn’t address a need. We weren’t deficient in offensive production. We didn’t NEED another 1B, Salty was doing just fine. Tex didn’t represent THAT much of an upgrade.
…Dude, are you mental? Did you see what Tex did after coming over?
bravos2249
June 24th, 2009
4:26 pm
GT
The only thing is…it used to be Olympic Stadium….so basically Ted got a stadium he didn’t have to pay for all of it. If they do build a new stadium…it needs to be around 40,000-45,000 seats…but hey I like the cheap seats now…lol
I think in cities like Boston and NY..with both parks….they are around bad parts of the city too. It’s just people still go to the games.
McFann ;Ô;
June 24th, 2009
4:27 pm
AndyC–
Elton John said that Mauer was the best catcher in baseball and he wishes he played for the Braves.
Greg in TN–
Hey! Long time no see!
I see BMac making strides in that part of his game and he’ll bridge that gap in the not to distant future.
Me, too! He’s made some strides already!
bravos2249
June 24th, 2009
4:27 pm
GT
Forgot to add….the inner city of Atlanta is no better than where the stadium is.
DAP
June 24th, 2009
4:28 pm
same lineup hunh? i dont like that at all.
beekay
June 24th, 2009
4:28 pm
If I had to choose one reliever to keep, I think I would take Gozo over Sori. I think Gonzo will be cheaper my guess is Sori gets 3 years 25 mill (if he stays healthy) and Gonzo gets 2 years 10 mill. Both have been awesome this year. Sori has been a bit more dominant. I love Gonzo’s attitude though and his teammates seem to really like him a ton
Bobby's Cox
June 24th, 2009
4:29 pm
Someone made a great point on yesterday’s blog that when there was an open competition in ST a few years ago, Martin Prado outplayed him.
rob in sc,
that was me…but what i didn’t mention (my post was long enough), was that the Braves preferred Kelly that year because they needed a leadoff hitter. KJ, if you look at his walk rate early in his career, drew a ton of walks. Unfortunately, his walk rate is almost a third of what it used to be (8% this year, 8.5% last year, compared to 22% in his 1st 2 years). Kelly did have a good spring that year, but I still believe he was outplayed. He was definitely outplayed the next spring (2008) at the plate as well, though he started the season off on fire in Philly (both these last 2 seasons).
GT
June 24th, 2009
4:29 pm
CLE:
Yes, and even though it is the first year of the facility attendance is high. Im not saying move the Braves out of Fulton County, but if they did move them to a safer neighborhood closer to their paying fan base I think the attendance would be higher. I know land is cheaper on the Southside but there are increasingly more vacant industrial parks north of downtown, inside the perimeter.
PWHjort
June 24th, 2009
4:31 pm
What was the net gain of using Tex over Salty/Thorman? The answer: not nearly enough to justify parting with Andrus, Salty, Feliz, Jones, and Harrison.
Buffalo NY Braves Fan
June 24th, 2009
4:32 pm
If and when they ever build a new stadium in Atlanta, they need to leave that ugly bovine far far behind.
I can’t wait to see the stadium implosion and that thing going down in the rubble…. what an eye sore.
Vinings Jim
June 24th, 2009
4:32 pm
DOB – thanks for the reminder about Cousin Declan’s album – I’ve seen him play “Sulphur to Sugarcane” a couple of times on TV, and absolutely love it.
Eric
June 24th, 2009
4:34 pm
I don’t know if you guys care about hawks but they are about to pull off a trade with Golden State to bring Jamal Crawford and send Acie and Speedy to Them
1957 Braves Fan
June 24th, 2009
4:37 pm
Enjoy watching Soriano this year because the Braves will not be able to afford him next year.
GT
June 24th, 2009
4:38 pm
bravos2249:
BOS and NY are in bad parts of their respective cities, however their franchises can thrive in those situations because of historic stadiums, huge fan bases, and greater marketability. The braves are big in the south but its just not the same. You can’t tell me that less people would come to the games if the stadium was located somewhere right outside buckhead or at the perimeter/400 interchange. Those locations would be far better and safer than near the capital…Once you get within 2 miles of the capital the crime rate skyrockets 150%…..
rammerjammer
June 24th, 2009
4:38 pm
The Tex trade talk is the thing that won’t die.
Wilson Betemit, anyone???
JDH GT
June 24th, 2009
4:38 pm
GT, I agree. I think the strength of the Braves’ radio and tv markets shows just how big the fanbase is. I used to go to over 20 games per year when I was at GT because it was such easy access downtown (and cheap college tickets!). People outside of the city have such a negative conception of intown Atlanta. I also agree that there really isn’t any other reason to go to the southside (in fact, more reasons not to go there), so there are few walk-up tickets sold. Ideally, that part of town would see new developments and easier access from the suburbs.
Heath (Cleveland)
June 24th, 2009
4:39 pm
The worse part about Soriano and Gonzalez dominating the Yanks…they’ll remember that and throw some major amounts of money at them as FAs.
keylargor
June 24th, 2009
4:40 pm
We didn’t NEED another 1B, Salty was doing just fine. Tex didn’t represent THAT much of an upgrade. PWHj
Greg in TN
June 24th, 2009
4:41 pm
It’s been too long, McFann! I’d hoped that I’d be back to a more regular blog experience by now, but things are just now starting to settle down enough on the home and work front to allow me to do so.
bravos2249
June 24th, 2009
4:41 pm
GT
I know I said INNER CITY
Buffalo NY Braves Fan
June 24th, 2009
4:42 pm
Heath (Cleveland),
Maybe willymo will be around and tell us all if Soriano plans to stay in the ATL next season.
keylargo
June 24th, 2009
4:42 pm
We didn’t NEED another 1B, Salty was doing just fine. Tex didn’t represent THAT much of an upgrade. PWHjort
Anybody who saw the debacle that Salty was at first knew he was NOT ever going to be a first baseman.
He played the position fourteen times for the Braves in 2007 and 24 after he was traded to the Rangers. He has not played there since.
Bobby's Cox
June 24th, 2009
4:44 pm
I agree with scoots. It would a shame if we traded Vasquez or Medlen. I’d be pretty upset. I still believe if we solve our offensive problems internally, it will be good enough because our pitching is good enough…
VaBravesfan
June 24th, 2009
4:46 pm
Cabravesfan, June 24 4:24 p.m.: I am glad for you. ( I don’t know how to make those little smiley faces.)
Greg Olson Homers
June 24th, 2009
4:46 pm
If/When Gonzo and Soriano go, will they be Type A free agents if they stay on their current track? I mean, yeah we will lose them but at least we will get some sick picks back.
GT
June 24th, 2009
4:47 pm
sorry bravos2249 for the miscommunication but i have never heard of the downtown area referred to as the inner city….most people use inner city to refer to inside the perimeter as opposed to outside….and then use the neighborhoods to identify within ITP, i.e. morningside, downtown, midtown, buckhead, virginia highlands…..
N8
June 24th, 2009
4:48 pm
Shane (The original), I can tell you this. Salty will help us no less or no more than Tex will this year.
We basically traded Salty, Feliz, Harrison and Andrus for Kotchman, and a year of Tex and a half year of whoever the left reliever was in that deal (already forgot – that’s how significant he was).
I like Kotchman. Actually like him a lot. But no way in hell anybody makes that trade.
Those prospects “got away” from us because if ANY of them go on to have a productive career, even as backups, they will have provided somebody else more than Tex provided us.
Doyle Alexander went 9-0 for the Tigers with a 1.53 ERA, leading them to the AL East title in 87. But I’m guessing that in the end, John Smoltz is still the one that “got away” from them. Dont’ you think.
Salty may or may not amount to an All-Star player in his career. But in the end, it would have been nice to trade him while his stock was “high” for a guy that was going to be here for a while.
I’m not so sure that JS would have traded Salty even up for Kotchman, much less “throw in” Feliz, Harrison and Andrus.
Did Salty “get away”? Who knows. But Tex sure as hell “got away” as fast as he could. Dude had ZERO interest in staying in Atlanta, and JS should have known as much.
JS gave up a tone of prospects at the hope of getting to the playoffs for two seasons.
So, basically Wren and JS have given up Flowers, Salty, Andrus, Harrison, Feliz, Jones, Gorkys, Morton, Locke, Lillibridge, Gilmore and Rodriguez for Kotchman, McLouth, Vazquez and Boone Logan.
I sure as hell hope those three guys help us win a title. Because that is a LOT of talent to give up, when you’re not a player or two “away” from making a run. 6 or 7 of those guys have been ranked in our Top 10 prospects in the past few years at one time or another.
I just can’t help but think how different the roster would be right now if JS hadn’t traded for Tex and we used Salty and Andrus (or Escobar) to solidify the roster “long term” with a young ML ready player under our control. Like McLouth.
Which is EXACTLY why if there is a chance we are out of it, Vazquez needs to be moved. If we could even remotley “steal” somebody off of a contenders roster for Javier, Wren needs to replenish that farm system.
Say, like he did to the Tigers for JJJ. If Wren could get us a young up and coming starting pitcher that would be inexpensive and under our control for 4-5 more years, that a contending team doesn’t want to throw into the fire, I’d even be willing to sacrifice this season no matter how close we were to get said pitcher.
Can NEVER have enough good young pitchers under your control, IMO.
McFann ;Ô;
June 24th, 2009
4:49 pm
Greg–
Well, hope you cann be a regular again, soon! Glad to have you aboard!
N8
June 24th, 2009
4:49 pm
Sorry. Didn’t mean to “yell” that post. Damn format.
McFann ;Ô;
June 24th, 2009
4:50 pm
Oh no…Neight’s all bold…here comes another blast of the new format!
McFann ;Ô;
June 24th, 2009
4:50 pm
Hey hey! I was right, anyway!
TBrown
June 24th, 2009
4:53 pm
N8 – Love the post and agree with most. But Ron Mahay wasn’t THAT bad..
Capt Caveman
June 24th, 2009
4:54 pm
YO Keylargo — At this point I would have to agree that to make the playoffs we have to win the division. The East champ will probably have the fewest wins of any div winner. ( or close to it )
That being said it also means that at this point everyone except the Nats have a chance and are still in contention. I am very curious to see what move if any the Braves can pull off.
Personally, I would be ok with no trade at all if the bats started to wake up. There is something about a team that guts out wins on a weekly basis with good pitching and just enough hitting that is electrifying to the momentum of the season. Besides we have options coming off the DL soon too.
oklahomabrave
June 24th, 2009
4:54 pm
someone tell me what Martin Prado has done to not even get a look at second for at least a series.
AndyC
June 24th, 2009
4:55 pm
McFann
Thanks for the info. Clearly Elton doesn’t know what he is talking about!
O'Brien
June 24th, 2009
4:55 pm
So Frenchy and Johnson are back in the lineup again?
No wonder players love playing for Bobby Cox. He sticks with you, no matter what.
N8
June 24th, 2009
4:57 pm
T-Brown, you’re right. Mayhay (thanks for reminding me), wasn’t bad at all. Just didn’t impact anything enough for me to remember him.
I believe we also got a reliever (Marek?) in the Kotchman deal too. We’ll see if that amounts to anything.
McFann, you typed too fast didn’t you?
JEFF
June 24th, 2009
4:58 pm
MCCann is a beast and all you Garrett Anderson haters need to hush for awhile. Hes the hottest brave with runners on base… I will admit he doesnt help much on defense but his bat is on fire right now.. and again bobby cox sends those 2 hosers out there again.. Francouer and Johnson gotta gooo….Wren do ur stinkin job and get rid of these dead beats.. and hec yea Get Mark Derosa. He definitely hates it in cleveland.. Send Francouer, Bennett Johnson, JoJo to get him.. Guaranteed he will boost this team.. Sit stinkin Johnson and play prado or Hernandez. Those 2 will do so much better than loser johnson. I used to be a fan of his but the last 2 yrs have been atroshish. needs a change of scenary.. and To Trade any of our starters would be a HUGE AND dumb mistake.. and love mark Teixeria Lie through his teeth. I loved in here in atlanta and still call it home.. righttt. after slamming this team and then signing with the overrated and overpaid steriod induced yankees. Arod’s cousin is spreading juice lol.. and see what they do when there out of the retarded bandbox of a stadium. they stink haha… no cheap fly balls that go 310 feet for a home run in atlanta haha.. but not Least Gonzo and Soriano are on fire right now.. and if I see someone else say trade vasquez . you should be taken out back and stripped naked …
McFann ;Ô;
June 24th, 2009
4:58 pm
AndyC–
You’re welcome. Yeah, he sure doesn’t. I guess that’s why they call it the blues…
Heath (Cleveland)
June 24th, 2009
4:58 pm
Summer is the Best part of the year… You got Braves baseball, nice weather, and cookin’ out on the grill. Last night I cooked barbeque grilled chicken, grilled yellow squash and grilled zucchini. For night, I’ve got the grill fired up for some Bratwurst…mmm mmm.
mattdrum
June 24th, 2009
4:58 pm
Enough with the Tex trade talk already! It’s done, get over it.
TBrown
June 24th, 2009
4:58 pm
N8 – No problem..I was just kiddin around. I’m not too high on Marek. I agree with you though, over the long haul, we should have gotten alot more for the talent we gave up. Did Mahay net us any picks when he left?
McFann ;Ô;
June 24th, 2009
4:59 pm
Neight–
Yeah, spoke too soon again…
CLE
June 24th, 2009
4:59 pm
GT — Okay, I see what you’re saying. Wonder if that would make traffic better or worse for those trying to get to the game if the stadium were a bit farther north. Hard to imagine that it could be much worse than it is now!
TBrown
June 24th, 2009
4:59 pm
Heath – Grilled some steak and shrimp last night. Send the zucchini this way bro!
Bobby's Cox
June 24th, 2009
5:00 pm
I’m not sure why development around the TED hasn’t transpired. Since they put the Staples Center in downtown LA, you have seen a gradual improvement in an area that was vastly run down. LA is becoming a cool place to go to again, but when I was a kid the thought of going to downtown was scary.
Petco Park has made an even bigger difference in San Diego. The area where the old warehouses are was a dangerous, dark, poor, run down slum. But Petco has turned that community, well, into a community. Everywhere you look there’s a new modern high rise condominium project going on. Plenty of bars, great night life, plus they implemented a trolly system you can use to access the park from anywhere. My favorite is driving down to old town, having dinner at one of the Mexican restaurants (Casa Guadalajara, Casa de Reyes, Cafe Coyote, etc..), then taking a nice relaxing, 7 minute trolly ride to Petco. Beats the 2 hour traffic after the game as well.
Anyway, building a stadium in a bad part of town is a good thing. I’m not sure why it hasn’t been a good thing in Atlanta, maybe because it was right next door to FulCo Stadium?
ncscoots
June 24th, 2009
5:02 pm
No wonder players love playing for Bobby Cox. He sticks with you, no matter what.
Do folks really think that Cox would continue running these guys out there if there were players available who were obviously head-and-shoulders above the guys in question? That the man would just disregard the fortunes of his team because he “likes” a player? I mean, do folks really think that?
Willy Wally
June 24th, 2009
5:03 pm
What was the net gain of using Tex over Salty/Thorman? The answer: not nearly enough to justify parting with Andrus, Salty, Feliz, Jones, and Harrison. (PWHJORT)
PWH, as a very superficial lover of sabermetrics, you might want to check out some deeper sabermetric analysis, and realize that, as of today, Tex/Kotchman/Mahay have created about a 70 to 80 run differential above average for the time they played as Braves versus whatever Andrus, Salty, Harrison, Feliz, Jones have given the Rangers thus far relative to average.
Seriously, PWH, please cease making a mockery of yourself with superficial sabermetric analysis. It makes you more of a boob than the yokels who know nothing more than AVG/HR/RBI.
The Braves have kicked the ever living hell out of the Rangers in terms of on-field value for what they got back in that trade versus what they gave …. and remember the value of what they got in Tex grows in value by 10% with each passing year.
The Rangers have a ton of catching up to do if they ever hope to break even on that trade ….. the Rangers certainly got themselves value over replacement back in that trade, but very little back in terms of value over average thus far, and, when it’s all said and done, that’s really all that matters when you assess how the teams fared in the trade.
The only regret of that trade is the opportunity cost because those farmhans could’ve been used to possibly purchase Haren or Harden or Peavy. But value on the field? Not even friggin’ close. The Braves have kicked the hell out of the Rangers in that trade in terms of value over average. The Rangers can have all the value over replacement they want when it doesn’t amount to much value over average.
DAP
June 24th, 2009
5:04 pm
ncscoots
so you think playing jeff and kelly just about every day is a better idea than at least splitting time with diaz and prado? please explain that.
wjones
June 24th, 2009
5:04 pm
N8, would you say that it is good timing, then, that we play the Phillies when we do? Let’s say, for instance, that we are 4 games out when we play them, basically the same as now. A sweep puts us only one back, and certainly in contention. Two of three puts us 3 out, and that is still ok, with our pitching staff, Phils injuries, Mets disasters, etc. Lose two, and we are 5 back, and of course get swept and we are 7 back. The calendar is also a factor here as this puts us into July. So do you think Wren and the boys are also thinking this way? But I tell you, if we put Vazquez on the market, whether we are giving up the season or not, with the way he is pitching we better hold somebody hostage! None of this PTBNL crap! We better be at least thinking of raping someone’s farm system the same way the Rangers raped ours! Because I really, really like our rotation now. I’m afraid our pen’s arms are going to fall off, but I really like the rotation, and with just decent offense we could make a run for it. There have been champions with weaker hitters than Kelly or Frenchy in it before, but you have to have truly great pitching to pull it off, and I think we do. Taking Vazquez out of the mix, however, and that does it for us, because then the remaining four, particularly Kamakaze and Tommy, will be asked to do more and that will expose us, not to mention more pen stress. But even in a “write-off the season” scenario, we better get loaded if we trade Vazquez.
keylargo
June 24th, 2009
5:05 pm
N8
Ron Mahay was the best relief pitcher the Braves have had in years that was not a closer. I wanted the Braves to resign him, but they don’t pay middle relief or set up men. I think he signed with the Royals for $4mm a year, three years. Something like that, but something the Braves would never do.
keylargo
June 24th, 2009
5:07 pm
Ron Mahay lhp
2 years/$8M (2008-09)
* 2 years/$8M (2008-09)
o signed by Kansas City as a free agent 12/20/07
o 08:$4M, 09:$4M
o award bonuses: $50,000 each for All Star, Gold Glove, LCS MVP; $0.1M each for WS MVP, MVP ($50,000 for 2nd-5th), Rolaids ($50,000 for 2nd-5th)
McFann ;Ô;
June 24th, 2009
5:07 pm
Heath–
“Nice weather”? Where do you live?
Self - Ish
June 24th, 2009
5:08 pm
On good catchers, Tony Pena “invented” the snap throw to first, sometimes from his butt. Benito Santiago was a phenom, was he in a car wreck or something? Has any catcher other than Jason Kendall hit lead-off and led his team in SB’s? Johnny Estrada was on the way to being very good, till the Erstad-inflicted concussion.
DOB: are the heels returning Hansbrough & Lawson?
Heath (Cleveland)
June 24th, 2009
5:08 pm
McFann…
Since there are a lot “Cleveland’s” in the US…
I live in Cleveland, Ohio right now.
TexasBrave
June 24th, 2009
5:09 pm
oklahomabrave – Right now Prado has a strained groin and the Braves are probably trying to get it healed before putting him into any further action because they will need him if Chipper or Casey goes down.
But I agree Prado deserves a look over at second for at least a series or two. Perhaps a couple of series off will do KJ some good. However, if Prado is delivering like he usually does then he should keep it for as long as he is playing well. I know a lot on here will say that it will be a step down defensively but to me it’s a wash between them both.
cabravesfan
June 24th, 2009
5:09 pm
McFann-
Since you brought it up I feel the need to share- 76 and beautiful out here again today
Heath (Cleveland)
June 24th, 2009
5:13 pm
TBrown -
I love grilled vegetables. The key is to put the “meat” side down first to sear in the juices.
nolie
June 24th, 2009
5:13 pm
NEFTALI FELIZ is moving to the Ranger’s bullpen (EPI)
Feliz is young for AAA which might be much of the problem. I think there is still a good chance that he will be an above average pitcher if he stays healthy. I do agree pretty much with your take on the trade overall.
jmart1951
June 24th, 2009
5:13 pm
nscoots says …Do folks really think that Cox would continue running these guys out there if there were players available who were obviously head-and-shoulders above the guys in question? That the man would just disregard the fortunes of his team because he “likes” a player? I mean, do folks really think that?
Yes and he has done it for years … can anybody say Jerry Royster?
Prado is in the middle of a hitting streak and Cox is not optimizing this time period by starting him.
This at a time when the Braves can’t seem to score more than 0 to 4 runs a night.
jason
June 24th, 2009
5:14 pm
Vasquez is going no where. What BC needs to do concerning the BP is simpily let the startres go longer. With KK an d Hanson I understand as far as pitch counts. But Lowe, JJ, and Javy could go 8 or 9 if they are pitching good. If the game is close don’t pinch hit for the sake of a miracle HR. Continue with good starting pitching. The dumbest play in baseball is to pull your strater out after a dominating outing for a pinch hitter when there is 2 outs in the inning.
PWHjort
June 24th, 2009
5:14 pm
Willy Wally,
Contracts my friend. All the players we gave up are going to be around for a whole heck of a lot longer than the ones we netted. We basically traded 6+ years of Beau Jones, Neftali Feliz, Matt Harrison, and Elvis Andrus plus 5 years of Jarrod Saltalamacchia for 3 and a half years of Casey Kotchman, 1 year of Mark Teixeira, 6 years of Stephen Marek (who has completely fallen off the prospect map), and 28 INNINGS from Ron Mahay. Like any trade, you can’t properly evaluate it until all of the involved players’ careers are finished. And as it stands RIGHT NOW, we’ve netted wins. But when it’s all said and done, if we came out of this one on top, I’ll be extremely surprised. It’d be different if we made the post-season. But we didn’t. And we pissed a ton of talent down the drain upgrading our 3rd or 4th biggest need.
CLE
June 24th, 2009
5:16 pm
Hey Heath, I’m in Cleveland, too — want to share some of those brats you’re grilling up?
PWHjort
June 24th, 2009
5:16 pm
And Willy Wally, in regards to the last two paragraphs of your post:
HUH?!?!?!?!
Heath (Cleveland)
June 24th, 2009
5:19 pm
CLE
I’ve got 10 of ‘em on the grill right now. Servin’ up some macorini and potato salad with ‘em tonight.
Where in CLE? I am actually more in the Akron area.
N8
June 24th, 2009
5:19 pm
T-Brown, I don’t remember if we got anything for Mahay or not. To me, Salty and Harrison were the two “throw ins” in the Tex deal. Ironically, I think Gorkys was the “throw in” in the Renteria trade from Detroit. Yet he helped us net McLouth.
I should point out that I’m not one of these guys that whine about trades, and think that we should always be fleecing the other GM/team. Perhaps it’s karma for all those trades JS did in the 90’s?
For all of the prospects that we gave up for Tex (which became Kotchman).
We basically turned Andy Marte into JJJ and McLouth. Add in the fact that inbetween, we got to use Renteria for CHEAP (while Boston ate a bunch of his salary), for two seasons to help bridge the gap from Furcal to Escobar.
Not a bad return on a guy (Marte) who has amounted to NOTHING in the big leagues.
Also, keep in mind that had Tex led us to the playoffs and STILL left via free agency, I’d still feel we gave up too much for it (long-term). Doesn’t mean I wouldn’t have enjoyed it. But since draft picks are not tradeable and you lose them for signing free agents, I think your prospects (if your good at drafting and developing) are more important than people think for long-term success to a team that has payroll limitations.
Look at the Twins and Marlins, and more recently the Rays. Three teams that the Braves need to model themselves after, if they are going to continue to be owned by LM. Hang on to prospects and if you have somebody capable in your system of replacing somebody on your 25 man roster, trade that player away for more prospects and to clear a path for your up and coming player.
One might say that it’s a flawed system, and doesn’t allow the fans to get “attached” to their players long-term. But need I point out that since 1995, we have one WS title, and the Marlins have two?
I’ll also point out, that since the beginning of the 2006 season, the Braves are 269-287. While the Marlins are 269-288.
Not that we should strive to be a 3rd place team rather than a 4th place team. But my point, is that with ALL of the moves and drama that this team has had. The Marlins have been every bit as good as us, with half the payroll.
Who out there would be willing to sell off the older veterans (or just stop signing them and trading for them), and go through about 2 or 3 years of stockpiling prospects. Keeping the payroll around 50 million (I’ll also point out that the Marlins have spent as much on payroll – around 100 million – in the last 4 seasons, as we are this year), and THEN when a nucleus is ready to roll, add some free agents or make a couple of trades to make a REAL push for the playoffs.
After all, we have more flexibility than the Marlins do. Why not build the team up again from the ground, and then pour it on?
It just seems that when expectations are high, due to additions in the winter, the fall from grace is a lot harder to swallow. The Braves organization and players should be embarrassd that a team that had a payroll of 80 million less than them last year, finished that far ahead of them, and then this year STILL a game ahead of us, even though they are 60 million below us in payroll.
Talk about Braves fans getting “ripped” off on the value of their dollar.
rammerjammer
June 24th, 2009
5:20 pm
Bobby is the last to give up on someone who has produced. And he probably believes Kelly is far from finished and that Kelly has more tools that Martin. He also likes the versatility that Martin offers, especially valuable with Omar out.
So I think Kelly has until Omar returns to get back to his old form. If he’s still struggling then, Prado goes to 2b and Kelly becomes the utility guy with Omar.
jason
June 24th, 2009
5:20 pm
Another thing if you carry 6 or 7 in the BP, why use 4 guys. WE have Sori, Gonzo, Moylan, Bennett, O’flar, Acosta, and Medlen. That is 7 guys. I think O’Flar could be used more along with Medlen and Acosta. Bennete should be the one held in reserve.
Heath (Cleveland)
June 24th, 2009
5:20 pm
McFann
Where are you located?
Atrosh-Ish
June 24th, 2009
5:21 pm
KeyLargo: I loved Mahay last year too, and was sad to see him go, but his numbers aren’t that hot this year, O’Flaherty is better. O’F is also better than Wil Ohman this year
Roman Gal
June 24th, 2009
5:21 pm
RHR
Jonas Brother! Where?!
Seriously, though, I can understand why the front office gets excited, because the Yankees are a big draw. I guess it just annoys me that people are so wound up about facing them…I mean, they’re not even in our league.
Capt Caveman
June 24th, 2009
5:21 pm
If any of you missed the chance to watch the USA soccer team beat #1 ranked Spain you missed an awesome game. Spain’s superior talent and experience was evident from the get-go but Team USA had all of the grit and resolve and posted a truly awesome win today 2-0.
U-S-A U-S-A U-S-A U-S-A
True American
June 24th, 2009
5:22 pm
Soccer is for pansies.
braves fan lmh
June 24th, 2009
5:23 pm
Why don’t the braves do this trade:
Braves get: Matt Murton
Garrett Atkins
Rockies get: Kelly Johnson
Manny Acosta
James Parr
Low level prospect
beekay
June 24th, 2009
5:24 pm
Gwinett Braves update
Norton batting .500 with HR and pinch hit triple….Shaf 4-13 so far….Valdez 13 saves and Brandon Jones batting .304
CLE
June 24th, 2009
5:26 pm
Heath — I live in Cleveland Heights and work in North Olmsted. It’s my second summer up here and so far, it beats the summers in Atlanta! I chuckle when I hear folks up here complain about the humidity.
beekay
June 24th, 2009
5:26 pm
Marek has 5.27 era at AA Mississippi……I thought he was good?
The_Superhoo (Montana by way of Virginia)
June 24th, 2009
5:26 pm
braves fan lmh,
why the hell would we want either of those guys? avg is crap, power is crap.
Goldenglove002
June 24th, 2009
5:27 pm
DOB, I can’t believe you brought up Mauer vs. McCann. I really hope we can see them square off during the All-Star game.
Gotta miss the first part of this game, but I wish I wasn’t. Is it just me, or does Kawakami seem to do great in the important matchups. I haven’t paid much attention to Joba this year, but if he lived up to his hype this has the potential to be a great pitchers duel. Hope I’m not wrong.
Kentavo
June 24th, 2009
5:27 pm
I love it when Braves are on; each night I come home, forget about work, my wife has something ready for me to throw on the grill and a frosty High LIfe ready, we eat, play with the toddler and watch the Braves game.
jason
June 24th, 2009
5:28 pm
rammerjammer, liked your response to the KJ/Prado debate. I agree. Now why is Diaz not in RF in place of Frenchy?
NotAgain
June 24th, 2009
5:28 pm
Sorry. Didn’t mean to “yell” that post. Damn format (N8)
BS. nobody else does that once a day and then cries accident. There is nothing in the format that makes anybody else scream all the time. Are you and idiot or what? If so why am I reading your posts? Just stop it right now I tell you.
Mike Mike Bo
June 24th, 2009
5:29 pm
DOB,
Do you know if the Braves have any interest in Russel Branyan in Seattle?
bravos2249
June 24th, 2009
5:29 pm
GT
lol…I just put it that way cause they sometimes refer to the stadium being in downtown
Supes
June 24th, 2009
5:29 pm
Josh Willingham or Cody Ross would be an upgrade over the bum currently starting in RF.
Jeff and KJ must have some daming evidence against Bobby Cox, b/c no matter how much they both continue to SUCK, they sure do find their way in the lineup.
Diaz and Prado should start in their place!
Atrosh-Ish
June 24th, 2009
5:30 pm
Imh: Atkins is hitting .206? And he plays 3rd base? wtf?
Roman Gal
June 24th, 2009
5:31 pm
No way has building the Ted at its current location helped that area down there. A northside stadium would help the bottom line tremendously….. GT
I think it’s wrong to say that the stadium being built where it is hasn’t helped the area. It’s just not true. It may not be as nice as mid-town or wherever, but it’s gotten nicer in the last decade or so. I do, however, agree that a stadium on the northside where it’s a lot nicer would probably bring in more revenue. I don’t think it’ll ever happen, but it’s interesting to speculate…
alvin
June 24th, 2009
5:31 pm
PWHjort-
Your keen sense of hindsight is amazing!! Where can I pick up that skill?
N8
June 24th, 2009
5:32 pm
Keylargo, I guess I didn’t remember him being that good. Probably because the team didn’t do much in the W-L column. But either way, all we got was 2 months out of him, and six months of Tex (season months). Not enough for what we gave up.
Besides. Have you looked at Mahay’s stats from last year and this year? THAT is why you don’t pay a guy 8 million dollars for what he did after being thrust into a playoff run. Guy has been mediocre at best for the Royals.
Eric O’Flaherty is outperforming Mahay, and making about 3.6 million less. Just think. If Mayhay is on this team, no room for McLouth’s salary.
I don’t think the bullpen should be built on the cheap like ours was in the 90’s. I think you need a good closer and one good setup man. If you don’t have young (cheap) guys to fill those roles, you better “buy” them. The other spots can be filled with veterans and youngsters.
So, I don’t even for a second disagree with us not signing Mahay to an extension at that price. Nor do I think the Braves should have given Will Ohman, either. So many were steaming that we didn’t give him the cash. Imagine the anger if he and his 5.84 ERA in were to have been signed for a few million bucks? Good gawd.
Piedmont Blues (ex-BFIR)
June 24th, 2009
5:32 pm
The Tex trade is soooo 2006.
jason
June 24th, 2009
5:32 pm
Prado plays 2B, 3B, and 1B. KJ plays 2B and LF? That’s why KJ is starting. Also Prado has a bad groin. When Infante gets back, KJ could be benched if he is still struggling. Frenchy… I have no clue.
TexasBrave
June 24th, 2009
5:32 pm
ncscoots – While I will agree that putting in Prado and Diaz would not be a huge increase in offense, I would surmise that since they are more consistent than KJ and Jeff that our offensive output would increase slightly with them in the line up on a regular bases. And really, in my opinion, is what we need, just a little more offense. Look at the numbers:
AB 2B HR BB OBP SLG
JF 256 7 4 12 .281 .336
Diaz 124 6 3 12 .345 .427
KJ 225 15 5 20 .298 .373
Prado 120 11 3 12 .348 .450
Now while these numbers are not a “huge” difference. They do show that Diaz and Prado give the Braves more offense and greater chances to score. And with our pitching staff a little more is what we need to be contenders in the NL East.
braves fan lmh
June 24th, 2009
5:32 pm
I will admit Atkins is struggling but look at his numbers in the past. Also in spring training he played some at second base. With Murton look at the year he got full playing time. His numbers are better than francoeur’s. Plus he is cheap and team controlled to Heyward is ready in rf.
keylargo
June 24th, 2009
5:34 pm
I love it when Braves are on; each night I come home, forget about work, my wife has something ready for me to throw on the grill and a frosty High LIfe ready, we eat, play with the toddler and watch the Braves game. Kentavo
Quit Bragging! LOL, no I hope you enjoy yourselves as that sounds about as good as it gets.
Epinephrine
June 24th, 2009
5:35 pm
It’s impossible to evaluate the trade from win share right now given the uncertain status of the major players of the deal. My only point is the trade, like so many others, has moved from Unbelieveable Disaster mode to Status Uncertain mode.
Again, my ONLY POINT was that prospects whose future looked so gilded only a few months ago have now declined somewhat. And as a result, it is now POSSIBLE to envision a scenario in which the combination of Tex, Kotchman, and Marek actually pushes the Braves into positive win-share territory.
But I will say this–anyone, and I mean anyone who was watching the Braves two years ago knew that the Salty/Thorman platoon was a flat out disaster. Salty only seemed to hit when he was playing catcher-not first base. Time has suggested he would have stopped hitting as a catcher, too (currently at a banner year of .254/.300/.386 with 6 HR, in Texas no less). He was also an extremely poor fielder.
And Scott Thorman made Francoeur look like Albert Pujols. The trade was a mistake if the goal was to reach the playoffs, or secure a future with Tex. No doubt about that. But the POINT is that the COST of the trade appears to be diminishing by the month. That is all.
Roman Gal
June 24th, 2009
5:36 pm
…but they need to put it where the olympic centennial park thingy is now, near the aquarium, cnn center, phillis arena and georgia dome…those thing could be bunched together to create a better atmosphere OUTSIDE the ball park. DAP
I like your idea, too. I don’t really mind where the stadium is, I just wish there was more to do right outside of it. If they put a bunch of restaurants and stuff out there it would help bring more people to the game.
N8
June 24th, 2009
5:36 pm
NotAgain, if you’re so damn smart, how come you didn’t italicize the quote, or make the “quotee” in bold. Kinda hard to decipher what is typed from you, or who you’re quoting.
Roman Gal
June 24th, 2009
5:37 pm
Elton John said that Mauer was the best catcher in baseball and he wishes he played for the Braves. McFann
What? He really said that? Why? Is he a Braves fan?
braves fan lmh
June 24th, 2009
5:37 pm
DOB,
Do you know if the braves are interested in Scott Hairston, an what it would take to acquire him?
Lamar1Banks2
June 24th, 2009
5:39 pm
People that keep saying get over the Tex trade, when did u want people to evaluate the talent? When the were in the minors.
What you did before affects today.
McFann ;Ô;
June 24th, 2009
5:40 pm
Heath–
I can’t tell you how incredibly stupid I feel for asking that question…
We live in Gwinnett County, GA–Lawrenceville, to be exact.
cabravesfan–
Oh, goody-goody for you!
We’re at 90, “feels like 91″ out here…cold front happening, apparently. 
Roman Gal
June 24th, 2009
5:41 pm
Always good to hear from Greg in TN.
rammerjammer
June 24th, 2009
5:41 pm
jason,
I think Bobby sees Francoeur as having more tools than Diaz and that it’s only a matter of time before he starts producing better results.
Diaz had his shot at everyday status last season and didn’t produce, so Bobby may feel justified in believing Diaz is a role player.
Unless Frank makes a deal, I think Francoeur is the rightfielder for the rest of the season.
cabravesfan
June 24th, 2009
5:42 pm
McFann-
In about a month it’ll be that hot here (”here” being downtown LA- at home it’ll still be 76 and beautiful
)
Heath (Cleveland)
June 24th, 2009
5:42 pm
McFann -
Don’t feel stupid, there is Cleveland, Mississippi and that IS Braves country also.
McFann ;Ô;
June 24th, 2009
5:43 pm
Roman Gal Is [Elton John] a Braves fan?
Allegedly.
Robert (Minneapolis)
June 24th, 2009
5:44 pm
I am a recent Minneapolis transplant from Atlanta… and you should hear the sports talk radio go ON and ON and ON about Mauer. He is an amazing player and a great individual but they have dubbed him “the baby jesus”… while they say it jokingly I think its a bit much for such a young player…. Sports nuts up here also are extremely fond of any players that are “one of us” — A player born and raised the great state of MN. I think we love Atlanta and Georgia bred talent as much as any other homer… but they are REALLY proud of locals.
Capt Caveman
June 24th, 2009
5:45 pm
I gotta say that I cracked up at T.O. getting dissed to his face on camera by that little diva model. That was freakin’ HILARIOUS !!
Lamar1Banks2
June 24th, 2009
5:45 pm
Scott Thorman was bad come to think of it so was Horacio Ramirez/Kyle Davies/Ryan Langerhans/Mark Redmen/Dan Kolb and Bob Wickman.
wow those teams were terrible.
N8
June 24th, 2009
5:45 pm
And Scott Thorman made Francoeur look like Albert Pujols. Epinephrine
I disagree. In 2007, in 287 AB’s, Thorman batted .216 with 11 HR and 36 RBI, OBP of .258, SLG of .394 and and OPS of .652.
This year in 256 AB, Jeff is batting .246, with 4 HR, 30 RBI, .281 OBP, .336 SLG, and a .617 OPS.
I would say it’ the other way around. Jeff Makes me wish we had Thorman playing in LF. LOL!
It really does make one ask the question. Why was Thorman dumped upon and even before the Tex trade, forced into a platoon? While Jeff is allowed to rack up almost as many AB’s in half the games? (Thorman’s stats were over 120 games.)
Jeff’s defense isn’t THAT good anymore.
McFann ;Ô;
June 24th, 2009
5:46 pm
cabravesfan–
“76 and beautiful”…blah blah blah!
It should not be this hot this early here!
I can’t stand heat (I’m about as hot-natured as you cann be–gets annoying when I’m drawing and the paper gets all wet or I can’t get a good grip on the pencil!).
Heath–
Whew! That makes me feel better!
Wayne in Utah
June 24th, 2009
5:46 pm
jason
In support of rammerjammer’s comment, do you really want Garret Anderson in left and Diaz in right in the same game. Maybe once in a while, but not long term.
As bad as Francoeur can be, he is our best corner outfielder by far.
I do think that Prado should get some starts, but maybe KJ is being played to try to get him out of his funk. Could be a ploy to increase his trade value.
Chop Chop
June 24th, 2009
5:46 pm
McFann,
Check out this page. It’s from a couple of years ago, I guess.
JeanE
June 24th, 2009
5:46 pm
Also…Garrett “Loaf” Anderson might be a doubles machine but he’s a wretched left fielder & I cringe every time a ball is hit his way!!!!
jason
June 24th, 2009
5:46 pm
I agree that Diaz is not an everyday player. I also think Diaz being hurt last year played a lot into his struggles as an everyday player. How long do you wait and hope for production before you have to try something different. I am saying start Diaz for a series or a week. Let Frenchy sit and clear his head. His problems are all mental.
Roman Gal
June 24th, 2009
5:48 pm
Allegedly. McFann
You know, now that you mention it, I’m pretty sure I knew that.
Epinephrine
June 24th, 2009
5:49 pm
N8,
It was a joke. But the reason is because Thorman never did anything to impress talent evaluators and scouts. Francouer, for better or for worse, did. And because the Braves are loathe to give up on someone who could feasibly once again display that prowess, he gets a longer look.
Piedmont Blues (ex-BFIR)
June 24th, 2009
5:49 pm
N8,
Frenchy had the Delta commercial, the SI cover, the whole Golden Boy thing going on about the time Thorman tanked. He probably still sells some merchandise for the Braves. I’m sure plenty of small kids who don’t know much about baseball still think Jeff’s a great player. Since there’s no obvious replacement ready in the system, hawking those jerseys may be reason enough (in the view of the suits, mind you, not mine) to keep running him out there instead of giving Diaz or Brandon Jones a chance to play and benching Frenchy.
N8
June 24th, 2009
5:50 pm
“Diaz had his shot at everyday status last season and didn’t produce, so Bobby may feel justified in believing Diaz is a role player. rammerjammer
You may be right. But that’s just BS. Diaz had a fine Mar/April last year (.292 BA, 2 HR and 12 RBI in 25 games), then stumbled in May before getting hurt.
Jeff has had MUCH more time to “show what he can do”, regardless of his tools. If they think Jeff has better tools, how about let him refine using them in Gwynnett?
Capt Caveman
June 24th, 2009
5:50 pm
YO jmart1951 — don’t be dissin my boy Jerry Royster. He was the bomb diggity. I mean , what’s next , you gonna tell us that MIKE LUM didn’t deserve to have a Bat Day. LOL
You know I think I still have that ugly little Mike Lum bat in the garage. LOL
Roman Gal
June 24th, 2009
5:51 pm
Garrett “Loaf” Anderson might be a doubles machine but he’s a wretched left fielder & I cringe every time a ball is hit his way!!!!
Me too. And every time a ball that he should have cut off gets to the wall and he lobs it in to second base instead of attempting to throw out the runner at the plate, I tell all the people around me how much I hate him in LF.
I liked him just fine as the DH…
jason
June 24th, 2009
5:52 pm
I am not talking about a full benching. I think ATL is going to go with what they have now. It will take an overwhelming trade for FW to do something. And that something will not invole moving any pitching.
TBrown
June 24th, 2009
5:53 pm
Lay off Loaf “no time for defense” Anderson. He just uses his field time to get his mind right for his next AB. He doesn’t like to DH cause his Blackberry distracts him in the dugout. That’s how he always ends up posting on the blog..
Wayne in Utah
June 24th, 2009
5:54 pm
Please, denizens, let’s not let our displeasure with JF cloud our opinion of the fact that Matty Diaz is NOT a right fielder, excepting for an occasional game here or there.
IS Brandon Jones any better in the field??? I would rather try him than Diaz out there. BUT, truth be told, I think either a trade will solve this issue, or the return of Schafer. Just my opinion.
J-MAN
June 24th, 2009
5:55 pm
We need to resign Soriano and Gonzalaz ASAP!!!
wow
June 24th, 2009
5:55 pm
USA was brilliant shocking spain and the rest of the world finals sunday GO USA. GO Braves we need a sweep or two!!
cabravesfan
June 24th, 2009
5:56 pm
McFann-
we had several days last month when it hit 90 by 8:00 in the morning…and come September, when you all have that great fall weather, it will still be close to 100 here (our really hot months are August and September)
hmmmm
June 24th, 2009
5:57 pm
How about you just freaking get someone to take KJ and Franc for nothing. Just get rid of the dollars and free it up for someone else. Dye is the RF solution but we really could use another 1b too
bravos2249
June 24th, 2009
5:58 pm
Chop Chop
In the Thumbs up vid…JS admits the Dye trade was dumb….
rammerjammer
June 24th, 2009
5:58 pm
Wayne, I read (was it that Gordon Edes column?) where Bobby is already penciling Nate in LF and Jordan in CF next season. Rightfield was not mentioned. An oversight or an ominous vision of the future??? (cue Twilight Zone music…)
hmmmm
June 24th, 2009
5:59 pm
and at this point Schafer is no worse than those two crap machines … bring him back.
David O'Brien
June 24th, 2009
5:59 pm
I asked Bobby about Prado not playing this game or last night, whether he was trying to get him some rest for the sore groin, etc. He said, yeah, that he was.
I asked Prado if it was hurting any more than usual and he said no. You people and me aren’t the only ones wondering why Prado wouldn’t have played against one of the right-handers they faced in first two games of this series, believe me.
N8
June 24th, 2009
6:03 pm
Epinephrine, I got it was a joke. No malace intended with my post. I just wanted to point out that NOBODY was making Jeff look like Pujols in recent memory. Not even Thor.
Piedmont Blues (ex-BFIR), I’m not buying it. If Wren and Liberty Media were about selling tickets and marketing, then Smoltz and Glavine would be in Braves uniforms this year. Might even had tried to talk Maddux out of retirement. LOL!
But if you are correct, that is sad. Very sad. That’s a big bowl of unacceptable sad, imo.
Lamar1Banks2
June 24th, 2009
6:03 pm
Garrett Anderson is a terrible outfielder I wish the braves could have Anderson bat when it Frenchy’s turn at bat and Frenchy could just play defense. The braves then might have one complete player.
CorkylikesBeer
June 24th, 2009
6:04 pm
Tbrown…loaf is a professional hitter and doesn’t have time for fielding
TexasBrave
June 24th, 2009
6:04 pm
Wayne while I completely agree that Diaz is nowhere near the fielder that Jeff is, I believe then increased offense that Matt produces will offset his defensive challenges. As I said before we need more offense, pure and simple, and Jeff is just not doing it for us.
McFann ;Ô;
June 24th, 2009
6:04 pm
Roman Gal–
Yeah…I just said “allegedly” ’cause how cann you wish we had anybody but BMac behind the plate and call yourself a Braves fan?
cabravesfan–
Think we had it at 98 at 8:30 a couple days ago…dang! I hate it…
when you all have that great fall weather, it will still be close to 100 here
Chop Chop–
I’ll see if I cann get it to work…so far, no luck…
CorkylikesBeer
June 24th, 2009
6:05 pm
KJ and Frenchy both had good at bats last night..hit the ball hard but right at people…still early in the season..they will come around…bobby cox
cabravesfan
June 24th, 2009
6:06 pm
McFann-
Of course, come December, it will be back to 76 and beautiful…
N8
June 24th, 2009
6:07 pm
Wayne in Utah, one could certainly argue that Jeff is a worse hitter than Diaz is a RF. I’m not really arguing with you. I think Diaz would be pretty rough (arm wise) in RF. But that’s how down I am on Jeff. I don’t care anymore about the defense. And I’m a HUGE defense guy. Jeff is just that bad.
From what we’re told, Brandon isn’t much better.
McFann ;Ô;
June 24th, 2009
6:07 pm
Hey, the popup video worked…the hypocrite! He told JS “good boy” for signing BMac to a long-term deal, and now…?
Guess it’s whatever fits the moment, eh, John?
bravefaninok
June 24th, 2009
6:07 pm
hmmmm
June 24th, 2009
5:59 pm
and at this point Schafer is no worse than those two crap machines … bring him back.
NO….we need shaf to get right,he will be a superstar if let properly develop. next season he will be our stating CF,mclouth will be our stating LF.
Wayne in Utah
June 24th, 2009
6:08 pm
hmmmm
Let me splain it to you, my friend. Any team that is in the hunt will have a second baseman or a left fielder that are better than our two guys. Those teams will not want either of our guys. They will not pay that salary for a player who will not play.
As for teams that are NOT in the hunt, they are not in a hurry to add players. Their additions will only be smart ones, after some other team releases such players so they will not have to pay their full salaries. So, they will wait for us to releast these guys before they would take them.
Really, the only chance we have of dealing them, would be for them to improve their performance first, in which case we would then probably keep them for the rest of the year.
So, our choices are to play them, send them to AAA, or package them in a larger deal. Or, we could deal them and send along some cash to help defer their salary.
If I were a team that wanted KJ or JF, I would wait until they are non-tendered next winter, and make them a reasonable offer or a minor league contract next winter.
Hope that makes sense….
McFann ;Ô;
June 24th, 2009
6:09 pm
cabravesfan–
We’ll have some below-freezing and beautiful! (But I think we’ve had 70’s in December before…)
hmmmm
June 24th, 2009
6:09 pm
OK heres my 2nd base/OF solution …send Kotchman and Medlin, Parr to Pirates for Sanchez then Pirates send LaRouche and Zach Duke to LA Angels and Angels send Figgins and Matthews Jr. to the Braves and pay most of Matthews salary.
I know I am not the GM – that is what blogs are for …
RJB in DC
June 24th, 2009
6:09 pm
The Ted-
In my view, the reason why the Ted hasn’t fully taken off with the neighborhood is two-fold. First, thier own parking lots create nearly a 3/4 mile long asphalt barrier between the stadium and the rest of downtown. If they built parking decks, they could develop the remaining land with attractions or commerce to draw people beyond just games. Second is the lack of direct Marta rail access. I can’t tell you how many fans ride to the DC stadium on the green line.
Will be interesting to see how they develop the new porposed stadium site in Miami for the fins. The old Orange Bowl site was in a very depressed neighborhood. They now plan to re-develop the whole area so it has a draw 24 hours daily.
hmmmm
June 24th, 2009
6:09 pm
Oh Chipper moves to 1st by the way
Chop Chop
June 24th, 2009
6:10 pm
McFann,
If Sir Elton doesn’t understand that you can’t have two star players playing full-time at the same position, that doesn’t make him much different than many of those who post on this blog. I guess he just likes good players, especially catchers.
(Yeah. There’s a joke. Ba-dum-bum.)
Bobby's Cox
June 24th, 2009
6:12 pm
And he probably believes Kelly is far from finished and that Kelly has more tools that Martin. He also likes the versatility that Martin offers, especially valuable with Omar out.
Lets be clear….If Prado starts, that does not mean we lose his versatility. If someone were to get hurt, etc, then you simply move Prado to that position, then bring in the backup (johnson) to play 2nd. I don’t get the logic that if you start Prado, then you lose the versatility….
TexasBrave
June 24th, 2009
6:12 pm
DOB thanks for doing that follow up with Bobby and Prado. Do you know if Prado is still having the leg wrapped for each game? If it is then I can understand a little why Bobby is not playing him more until it is fully healed.
I think I and the rest of the denizens here would love to here from you when you think Prado is full healed are ready to play everyday at full strength. I think that would be a truer mark as to question why Bobby is still playing KJ instead of Prado.
Henry D.
June 24th, 2009
6:14 pm
The reason KJ keeps his job and Prado can’t get a break is because Cox either made the decision or helped make the decision to move KJ from the outfield to 2nd base. If he doesn’t play, Cox is shown to be the failure he is as a manager.
Either that, or KJ has some major nudy pictures of Cox.
Wayne in Utah
June 24th, 2009
6:15 pm
N8 and Texasbrave
Guys, I too am frustrated with JF. He is hitting like a 300 hitting singles hitter right now. Certainly not enough for a corner outfielder, but I wish there were some way of determining how many runs a guy like Jeff saves on average per game.
Could Diaz make up for that many runs??? Is Diaz an 80 RBI guy? That’s a half a run per game. If Jeff is a 60 RBI guy, then he only would need to save 20+ runs per season to be better overall.
Just thinkin out loud. I really don’t think we can afford Matty and Diaz together too many days per week. Maybe once or twice a week, but no more.
DOB Is KJ being played to allow him to improve, so as to show case him for a deal??? He’s got a dang long way to go to get back to his normal numbers. Very curious indeed.
Logan
June 24th, 2009
6:18 pm
New braves third baseman on fast tract to majors. (day one of the gulf coast league)
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?n=Dalfonso%20%203B&pos=&sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=571599
The_Superhoo (Montana by way of Virginia)
June 24th, 2009
6:19 pm
Branyan has attractive numbers, but he’s too old. If we trade for a power bat, we need someone we can keep for 3-5 years. That means <30 years old.
joe
June 24th, 2009
6:19 pm
DOB,
Any chance that Bobby and front office is trying to get KJ on track a little bit, get him on one of his hot streaks, then use the context of how KJ heats it up in the second half and put him on the block? It really is the only thing I can think of. KJ is not better than Prado at this point in any phase of the game.
Wayne in Utah
June 24th, 2009
6:19 pm
Bobby’s Cox
Putting Prado at second could possibly limit your flexibility, if you pinch hit KJ, or more likely, if you release him. I don’t see KJ staying around long if Prado got the job and kept it.
I still think Prado should get a few more starts. I would love to see him start, and get parked at 7 or 8 for a week.
Personally, in the long run, I don’t think he works out, but I would be willing to give it a try though.
Lamar1Banks2
June 24th, 2009
6:21 pm
HMMMMM
I like the idea of Chone Figgins(if you can’t add power add speed) but Matthews has a terrible contract, Sanchez may not be able to play 3rd and why move Kotchman when a lesser set of prospects could net Figgins who is in the final yr of his deal.
I think you could make easier moves and net the same result.
Bobby's Cox
June 24th, 2009
6:21 pm
N8,
Good post about we got McLouth and Jair for Marte.
Later in that post you kinda rip the Braves for having such a high payroll, yet having the same record as the Marlins over time.
I’m not sure I agree with that. The reason our payroll is so high is because some veterans have stuck around. When your franchise players hit the free agent market, you pay them to show them respect of being team owned for the first 6 years (+ minor league ball) of their career. Whereas the Marlins dump their franchise players for more prospects, we like to keep ours around. The Marlins also draw 7,000 fans a game, so they don’t bring in the money to sign such players. It’s just different strategy, and I think it has more to do with attendance and player respect, than it does about paying too much for similar results.
I just think we get good value for our dollar. Chipper at 10 mil a year is a bargain. Hudson’s deal is a bargain (though he’s hurt). We hit a HR with Lowe. KK is an investment to sign more Japanese players in the future (yet he’s been effective), and he makes less the next 2 seasons than he does this season I believe (bonus?). Signing McCann early was a huge bargain as he’s only making what, 3.8 mil this year? He’d be making more than that through arbitration…
joe
June 24th, 2009
6:22 pm
I don’t understand the severe disrespect betsowed upon Bobby Cox by some of you. No manager is perfect, but just about every player that comes through here and has ever played for him respects him, loves him, and has nothing bad to say about the way he handles the team, the clubhouse, and on field decisions. Perhaps some of you know something actual ballplayers don’t. It is just appalling to me.
Heath (Cleveland)
June 24th, 2009
6:25 pm
Mmmmmmm…
Those Brats were awesome. Sitting here stuffed. The best way to top off the night? A Braves win?
Wayne in Utah
June 24th, 2009
6:27 pm
logan
I like that kid’s first day! What is the story on him?? He is tall, and young. JuCo product, it looks like.
Do you know anything about his tools, D, etc?
Heath (Cleveland)
June 24th, 2009
6:27 pm
CLE -
What? You live in Cleveland and you have a job?
Bobby's Cox
June 24th, 2009
6:28 pm
Wayne,
We also have Infante who plays more positions than Prado. True he’s hurt now, but that’s 2 players with extreme versatility, where most teams don’t even have 1. Again, even if you pinch hit KJ and want to double switch, and Prado is already in the game, you can move players around the diamond..it does not affect the versatility at all. If KJ is traded/relseased like you say, we still have Diory, Burke, etc.. as “backups”, but KJ, Prado = Diory, Prado = Burke, Prado in terms of versatility because Prado can still play multiple positions whether he starts or not.
PWHjort
June 24th, 2009
6:28 pm
Joe, all the football players at Georgia Tech loved Chan Gailey. Because he babied them. Then the athletic department and boosters got sick of losing, especially to Georgia, and decided it was time to make a change. And at first the players hated Paul Johnson because he’s a hard ass. But then guess what happened? We beat Georgia. And now the whole team is happier. This isn’t a perfect analogy, but my point is making the players happy isn’t the manager’s job, making them successful is.
McFann ;Ô;
June 24th, 2009
6:29 pm
Chop Chop If Sir Elton doesn’t understand that you can’t have two star players playing full-time at the same position, that doesn’t make him much different than many of those who post on this blog.
Ha, really…
Sorry…I feel bad, but um…I didn’t catch the joke…
The_Superhoo (Montana by way of Virginia)
June 24th, 2009
6:31 pm
PWHjort:
BOOYAH. completely correct. The manager’s job (ANY leader’s job) is to make a team succeed. If people are unhappy, so be it. I don’t care if everyone on the team is happy. I want the team to win.
David O'Brien
June 24th, 2009
6:31 pm
Doctor told Prado he’d need two months of rest of that to heal completely. it’s bothered him for years, off and on. Cox told me as much today, too, that it might never heal completely, that Prado needs to skip winter ball one year, but Cox understands why he plays because they make good money down there and Prado takes care of his family. They came from nothing, or not much, and he takes care of them.
Maybe when he gets an arb salary, he’ll be in better position to skip winter ball or at least most of a winter-ball season. I’m just speculating, but that seems like it could be the case. Guys don’t make a lot until they’re arb-eligible, and certainly utility guys don’t.
Lamar1Banks2
June 24th, 2009
6:31 pm
joe
June 24th, 2009
6:22 pm
I don’t understand the severe disrespect betsowed upon Bobby Cox by some of you. No manager is perfect, but just about every player that comes through here and has ever played for him respects him, loves him, and has nothing bad to say about the way he handles the team, the clubhouse, and on field decisions. Perhaps some of you know something actual ballplayers don’t. It is just appalling to me.
Some fans on this site watch the Braves every day/night. They buy tickets, merchandise etc. They follow them in the paper and on the internet. The go to minor league games and subscribe to cable/sat packages and magazines just to know more about there team.
After all that money and time they invest, doesn’t a couple of grips about Bobby Cox’s managing style well worth it. They play a game for fans to watch. Everyone gets a say, whether YOU agree or not. Besides its a blog that’s what they are for.
TexasBrave
June 24th, 2009
6:32 pm
Wayne you are correct that Jeff saves runs being out in right field and after a length analysis using current stats, your right in that Jeff would most likely save as many runs as Matt would create.
Point taken.
Lamar1Banks2
June 24th, 2009
6:32 pm
PwHjort
Well said.
NotAgain
June 24th, 2009
6:33 pm
N8
get off your high horse N8 the H8. You do the same stupid thing damn near every day. Bold or italicize an entire post and then claim it was an accident. After all this time you must be even more stupid than the content of most of your posts indicates to continue to do the same think. It’s not like a typo, it is not all that simple to do. It’s a lot of keystrokes at just the right places, how can that be “accidental”? And if there was any question in your mind about what my post conveyed than you really are a dolt. Try to get through the next week without an “accidental” bolded post. we will all feel so much better about your intelligence level…as much as we can anyway.
FEAR
June 24th, 2009
6:33 pm
damn prado should start
McFann ;Ô;
June 24th, 2009
6:35 pm
DOB Cox understands why he plays because they make good money down there and Prado takes care of his family. They came from nothing, or not much, and he takes care of them.
OK, now I LOVE that.
joe
June 24th, 2009
6:37 pm
PWH,
good point, but bobby has proven over and over that he is successful. exactly how much more successful do you need him to be?? i need not remind you of his prior history.
perhaps you might say that he won only because of his players. Well, that might have been true over a certain period, but then you are neglecting to take into account the early portions of this decade when he won with the likes of Russ Ortiz, Damian Moss, Horacio Ramirez,an againg and declining Glavine and Maddux, Chris Reitsma, John Burkett, Rico Brogna, Scott Thorman, the “Baby Braves”, and a bullpen of castoffs, and i’m sure i’m forgetting other circumstances. Every other media source calls Cox one of the greatest managers in the history of the game. He refuses to take credit for his success managing the teams of the 90s, he refuses to take credit for his success with mediocre teams from 2000-2004, and he refuses to blame the players for their recent lack of production.
again, i have no problem questioning and second-guessing moves that he makes from game to game. but to for so many of you to disrepect him like that is nauseating and short sighted. to me. IMHO.
Lamar1Banks2
June 24th, 2009
6:37 pm
OK I could buy the argument that Francouer is a better defender than Diaz and Diaz is a better offensive player and then the numbers would equal out. But what the defense for KJ over anybody. His defense is mediocore at best and he has no offense to speak of.
N8
June 24th, 2009
6:38 pm
Bobby’s Cox
I understand why the payroll is higher. But the bottom line is that the net result is the same, and ticket prices are surely higher in Atlanta than in Florida. Yet the teams finish with about the same record each year.
If I lived in Atlanta, and my team wasn’t going to make the playoffs, I’d prefer a younger, cheaper roster, so I could afford to take my boys to more games. Since a few people have been on the “marketing” angle for some of this stuff.
DOB, then why don’t the Braves offer to pay him what he’d make in Winter Ball in agreement that he won’t play, as to “protect” their investment for the future, if they would like him to take the year off of Winter ball to get as healthy as he can be? Seems like a no-brainer if they would like to have him at 100 percent next summer.
Lawton
June 24th, 2009
6:39 pm
I’ve seen some comments related to Hudson being back in the rotation next year creating a crowded rotation scenario. But the Braves hold a $12mil club option on Hudson with a $1mil buyout. Seems to me the Braves would go the buyout scenario adn keep the current rotation intact for next season. Some of the savings could go a long way to locking up Gonzo and Soriano.
joe
June 24th, 2009
6:39 pm
Lamar, then why are you jumping on me for stating my opinion of other posts on this blog, if this is indeed what it’s for. don’t be hypocritical. i have a legitimate point.
Heath (Cleveland)
June 24th, 2009
6:39 pm
Lamar1banks2 -
I agree with you on that too.
Lamar1Banks2
June 24th, 2009
6:41 pm
I’m not attacking you more so I defending others rights to have an opinon. Not hypocritical.
monty
June 24th, 2009
6:42 pm
I just wonder if Brian would be willing to loan Jeff his hitting glasses.
Lawton
June 24th, 2009
6:43 pm
N8, I think paying a player to not play winter ball could create a very bad precdent. Players could effectively hold team management hostage threatening to risk injury playing winter ball unless they are given some compensation to not play.
As for the salary situation, if you look at it from a global view, the Braves have been in a transition for a few years from a somewhat aging, expensive roster to a roster that is more balance and a little more efficient. Many of the contracts that expired over the past couple of seasons originated when the Braves were winning. When a team stops winning and is still carrying those contracts it usually takes a while to get things situated again.
Lamar1Banks2
June 24th, 2009
6:43 pm
Thanks Heath(Cleveland)
Charles
June 24th, 2009
6:43 pm
Prado needs to skip winter ball one year, but Cox understands why he plays because they make good money down there and Prado takes care of his family. They came from nothing, or not much, and he takes care of them. Maybe when he gets an arb salary, he’ll be in better position to skip winter ball or at least most of a winter-ball season. Guys don’t make a lot until they’re arb-eligible, and certainly utility guys don’t.
So basically Cox and Kelly are taking food away from the Prado’s? Not cool.
I’m really beginning to like this kid now. It’s perhaps a glimpse as to why Martin is willing to learn every position he can to stick around. The guys work ethic is charming. He reminds me of Eddie Perez in a way…
More news like this O’Brien and he really will become a fan favorite like Eddie became.
ALL CAPS N8 (FORMERLY JUST..... N8)
June 24th, 2009
6:43 pm
IT’S NOT LIKE A TYPE (NOTAGAIN) UH..IT ACTUALLY IS BUT SINCE YOURE TOO STUPID TO GRASP THAT IM OFFICALLY GONNA TYPE EVERYTHING FROM NOW ON IN ALL CAPS WITH NOT APOSTROPHES PERIODS OR COMMAS I WILL NO LONGER BE USING ITALICS OR BOLD FOR FUTURE POSTS I HOPE THIS IS EASIER FOR YOU GRASP AND EQUALLY AS ANNOYING IT WONT BOTHER ME ONE BIT
hmmmm
June 24th, 2009
6:44 pm
Ok Medlen , Reyes, Camparillo and Parr to Pittsburgh. Zach Duke to the Angels and Figgins and Sanchez to Atl …… off set that salary by giving KJ and Franc away – if someone will just take them.
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
6:46 pm
Interesting note one of Joba Chamberlains biggest idols growing up was Chipper Jones.
Lamar1Banks2
June 24th, 2009
6:46 pm
I just wonder if Brian would be willing to loan Jeff his hitting glasses.
I would if Jeff would bat with his eyes closed he wouldn’t have a better chance at getting a base hit.
David O'Brien
June 24th, 2009
6:47 pm
Also in that Sports Illustrated that arrived today is another question from the MLB players survey.
Today’s question: “Which manager would you most like to play for?” Players weren’t allowed to vote for their own manager (I did the survey for SI for the Braves players).
Anyway, the results: 1. Bobby Cox, 25 percent; 2. Joe Torre, 16 percent. Next were Scioscia and Francona, if I remember correctly. Leyland, whose four manager of the year awards are second to Bobby’s eight, was ninth in the poll.
Heath (Cleveland)
June 24th, 2009
6:47 pm
Now, I hope no one misunderstands my post. I’m not saying anything else that what was exactly said. KJ offers less to the team right now and his replacement will provide an upgrade accross the board.
Skeeterleg
June 24th, 2009
6:47 pm
actually joe, Kenny Lofton and Gary Sheffield said a few bad things about him. They’re pretty good players.
FEAR
June 24th, 2009
6:48 pm
Hmmmmmm – Ok Medlen , Reyes, Camparillo and Parr to Pittsburgh. Zach Duke to the Angels and Figgins and Sanchez to Atl …… off set that salary by giving KJ and Franc away – if someone will just take them.
I don’t know about that one I Iike Campillo and Parr.
ALL CAPS N8 (FORMERLY JUST..... N8)
June 24th, 2009
6:48 pm
After all this time you must be even more stupid than the content of most of your posts indicates to continue to do the same think (NOTAGAIN)
YOU KNOW WHAT I LIKE I LIKE IT WHEN PEOPLE CALL OTHER PEOPLE STUPID AND MOCK TYPOS YET THEY MAKE ONE THEMSELVES WHEN THEY ARE POSTING THEIR DRIVEL WELL DONE
Lamar1Banks2
June 24th, 2009
6:49 pm
Hmmm
So if you take Mathews out, and trade Frenchy, who is going to play right field? Diaz?
Wayne in Utah
June 24th, 2009
6:49 pm
hmmmm
go back and read my response to you on why you can’t offset the salary of kj and jf
Joebrave
June 24th, 2009
6:50 pm
If you tied Jeff Stenchcouer into a knot,and stuck a bat in his ass that boy would still swing at the first pitch!
hmmmm
June 24th, 2009
6:51 pm
Wanting to play for them and actually playing for him is two different stories. Smoltz, Tex, etc. they all WANT to play for him- as long as they get paid as much as Boston or NY will pay them. That survey means absolutely nothing except they like the guy – maybe because he is so soft on them. There are plenty of managers lower on that list with better results- World ChampionshipS …. RESULTS is what counts not whether a spoiled pompous over paid athlete doesn’t get there feelings hurt by their big mean manager…. give me a break
Train Wreck Bystander
June 24th, 2009
6:52 pm
Good news: ESPN 2 picks up the game
Bad News: It seems to be blacked out in the territory
(silently throwing a one-finger salute in the direction of the WPCH broadcast tower)
Roman Gal
June 24th, 2009
6:52 pm
Anyway, the results: 1. Bobby Cox, 25 percent DOB
I’m not surprised one little bit.
Joebrave
June 24th, 2009
6:52 pm
Hope Booby gives Kelly his Midol before the game starts.
Lamar1Banks2
June 24th, 2009
6:53 pm
I’m not surprised that Bobby is one of the most loved managers in the game. I just think current fans are fed up with his loyalty to Frency and esp KJ.
joe
June 24th, 2009
6:53 pm
skeeter, that’s two players out of how many exactly, also two players that can’t seem to stick with any one team? how exactly is that relevant?
lamar, i have never challenged anyone’s right to post their opinions on the blog. i simply stated that i find it to be appalling that anyone would severely disrepect bobby’s whole body of work. and i have given my reasons on why i strongly disagree. not to mention, i also said i have no problem with people who second guess bobby’s decisions on a game to game basis, as i do the same. so, tell me how i am trying to infringe on people’s freedom of speech and blogging rights?
hmmmm
June 24th, 2009
6:53 pm
Figgins can play the outfield.
Heath (Cleveland)
June 24th, 2009
6:53 pm
I’m ready for some ball!!! Let’s keep the winning streak going! (Pretty bad when 2 in a row is a winning streak, huh?)
Jennifer
June 24th, 2009
6:54 pm
I just wanna say I don’t like PTV it sucks
Charles
June 24th, 2009
6:54 pm
Also, Cox doesn’t make sense. If he’s not playing Martin because of the groin, but yet the groin won’t be healed unless he gets 2 months rest, then that goes against DOB’s post this morning that Kelly won’t be starting soon if he doesn’t turn things around soon. Either way, Martin will be playing hurt.
Either someone’s wrong that Kelly’s job is in jeopardy, because it seems like Kelly will keep his job until Infante comes back if Cox is that worried about Prado’s groin.
I really have no problems with this, because we will need a healthy Prado down the stretch and for the postseason if we can stick in the race…..
Bobby's Cox
June 24th, 2009
6:54 pm
Yes N8, but if the Braves rid themselves of the few veterans they have and cut costs, how many people show up to games? We essentially have to lower ticket prices to the Marlins level, and we essentially become the Marlins but with a worse record. You kinda need guys like Chipper to bring fans to the games. It is working both ways for the Braves/Marlins, but I don’t think the Braves would be able to do what the Marlins do with such great success, at least not initially.
Lamar1Banks2
June 24th, 2009
6:55 pm
LOL Train Wreck Bystander
that was priceless
Capt Caveman
June 24th, 2009
6:55 pm
You know what really bothers me about this blog — the incessant almost hateful talk about Bobby Cox by people who have never met him, and probably never played baseball to any extent.
You feel it is your right to get on this blog and vent and feel it is ok b/c you’re a “fan”. YET you same people will become utterly offended and outraged if your posts or opinions are disagreed with or lambasted as idiotic. Do you not see the absurdity of your actions and words??
I wonder how you would feel if someone said the same things about you and the way you do your job.
You would probably blow a gasket. And then spit in the burger before you served it at the drive thru.
jason
June 24th, 2009
6:56 pm
I have been thinking, and I was wondering if there was anything wrong with JF’s vision. I know we may have discussed this at some point earlier in the year. I am thinking depth perception. While Francouer is striking out less, he’s not striking the ball. He’s not centering the ball. Think about it. He tops almost every freaking pitch. And if he hits the ball in the air, seems he’s always under the ball. I know that that is not all his problems. He has alot going on or not going on between the ears. He doesn’t seem to make adjustments during an AB like Bmac and Chipper. Remember the story wrote on Chipper’s AB facing KRod of the Mets. How he was explaining what he was thinking from pitch to pitch. I don’t see JF being able to do that ever.
Here is a JF game. AB 1) I am going to take pitches and work the count. Damn 0-2 count. I have to protect the plate. Off Speed Top the base ball routine grounder to SS for an out.
AB2) I am coming out swinging. After 2 breaking balls 0-2, I need to fight off pitches. Crap Fastball down the middle for K.
that is the basis of his ABs. Look at Bmac the other night. He took probably the worse swing that I have ever seen him take. Totally fooled. Next pitch low and away and he 2Bs off the LCF wall and almost goes yard. Why can’t JF make the adjustments? Is it no depth perception, Between the ears, what?
Interested Observer
June 24th, 2009
6:56 pm
Not to pick on Prado, but he can’t support his family on $415,000?
Charles
June 24th, 2009
6:56 pm
Also, how can Bobby be that concerned with Prado’s groin when he let Prado play 3rd in Boston while he DH’d Chipper instead? Sounds fishy….
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
6:56 pm
DOB
Why is it that Melky Caberera was in the lineup then later on they put swisher in place of him????Is a trade to the braves a possibility???
joe
June 24th, 2009
6:56 pm
captain caveman. my point exactly. thank you.
N8
June 24th, 2009
6:57 pm
“It’s not like a typo, it is not all that simple to do. It’s a lot of keystrokes at just the right places, how can that be “accidental”?” NotAgain
You do realize that if you leave the “/” out of the equation, the format of this blog will either make the ENTIRE post bold or italic (depending on which one you are trying to do), right?
REGARDLESS of what other words/phrases you try to make bold or italic in the whole post. So, in reality, it IS like a typo.
You wanna mock my posts or my views. Go for it. I’ve been insulted by far smarter girls than you. But pick a better battle. I prefer the use of the ** before and after a phrase you want ot make bold. Always have, and always will. Just easier and quicker to do, and harder to screw up.
I never had an issue with the blog slowing down. I’ve got a fast computer. Also like that everything was on “one page” so if you wanted to search for somebody’s post you could do that, without having to search for it on EVERY page, or remember what page they made the post on.
It’s not that tough. It’s my opinion. Purely “operator error” on my behalf when a post is all bold or all italic. But whether it’s my fault or not. It happens MUCH more often than it used to on the old format.
But before you call people stupid, you should learn to spell, and do some research on how the ole’ blog actually works. Once you’re an expert, you will have earned the right to mock others’ “stupidity”. Until then, STFU.
Excuse me, while I tie up my High Horse to the post and get me a shot of whiskey.
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
6:57 pm
Brian Cashmen is at the game today
Lawton
June 24th, 2009
6:59 pm
Interested Observer: to be fair to Martin, we don’t know how large a fmaily he is supporting. It would not be unsual to include his parents, siblings, nieces, nephews, etc. Also, no one knows how long his baseball career will last. He could have a career-ending injury tonight. He needs to make all he can while he can.
here
June 24th, 2009
6:59 pm
N8 are u having a PMS moment?
hmmmm
June 24th, 2009
6:59 pm
No one hates Bobby Cox but we certainly don’t have to agree with your opinion that he should be the manager. OVERRATED. No one is saying he is a BAD PERSON, but his managing is no better than Charlie Manual, Lou Pinella, Jim Leyland or anyone else that has won ONE World Series.Cito Gaston has TWO. Kelly from MN had TWO. RESULTS are what they are.
Skeeterleg
June 24th, 2009
7:00 pm
Two or not Joe, you said no one, ever. Besides, no player in their right minds is going to go around bad mouthing managers. Its not the best way to get a new job.
NotAgain
June 24th, 2009
7:00 pm
ALL CAPS N8
how is it like a typo Nate? A typo is one keystroke, anyone can do that and I wouldn’t comment to you about one. Mis-bolding is like making 17 typos in a row. That is kind of extreme don’t you think? That is a real
thing to do IMHO.
BTW I don’t really care how you post I just like to needle your pompous know-it-all persona. It is fun.
joe
June 24th, 2009
7:00 pm
Game time! Let’s go Braves!
Vinings Jim
June 24th, 2009
7:01 pm
Wouldn’t it be funny if Brian Cashmen ran into Brian Cashman?
bravefaninok
June 24th, 2009
7:02 pm
BIG MAC getting some ESPN LOVE!!!!
Heath (Cleveland)
June 24th, 2009
7:03 pm
Have to be careful with the added HRs from Melky this year…almost all of his HRs have come in that Bandbox in NY.
Bobby's Cox
June 24th, 2009
7:04 pm
Jason,
there’s nothing wrong with Jeff’s vision. There’s something wrong with his bat speed. Deciding to swing before the pitch is thrown, chasing high fastballs & outside sliders, etc…all signs of Jeff trying to speed up the bat to get to pitches. Jaramillo tried to get Jeff to already get his foot planted and hands in position before the pitcher releases the pitch because….his bat speed is too slow. I’m a firm believer in this….
Jeff does need to stay inside the ball though. That’s when he has his most success…You have more time to wait on a pitch if you hit it up the middle or oppo. Jeff did that when he first came up. Heck, his 1st ML HR was just to right of center, and in 2007 when he hit well with RISP, most of those hits were up the middle. He’s done it before. but something happened when Andruw left….he felt he needed to hit more bombs.
joe
June 24th, 2009
7:05 pm
I’m sorry that I completely discredit anything Gary Sheffield or Kenny Lofton have to say about any issue.
o-me
June 24th, 2009
7:05 pm
Frenchy and Guillen deal in works….espn rumor center
JerseyGil
June 24th, 2009
7:06 pm
DOB….It That you Conpadre in ESPN???
Heath (Cleveland)
June 24th, 2009
7:07 pm
DOB:
Because they have Prado and Infante, does that tend to make the Braves lean more towards a OF instead of a 2B if they were to try to get someone? Sure, we would like to get more from RF, but hasn’t 2B been worse when you consider offense AND defense collectively? My guess is that they would because concentrate on an OFer because they have internal options that will improve them.
Heath (Cleveland)
June 24th, 2009
7:09 pm
I didn’t delete some of my text in that last one…. ugly.
sri
June 24th, 2009
7:09 pm
Train Wreck, if you have a fast connection and dont mind watching the game online, you can watch the game online at espn.com
nolie
June 24th, 2009
7:09 pm
Frenchy and Guillen deal in works….espn rumor center (o-me)
I just don’t see how that is financially possible for the Braves, but it keeps popping up.
Bobby's Cox
June 24th, 2009
7:10 pm
So I’ve been watching this broadcast on ESPN for about 7 minutes or so, and I have to learn who the Yankees are playing…Anyone have a clue?
N8
June 24th, 2009
7:10 pm
“Yes N8, but if the Braves rid themselves of the few veterans they have and cut costs, how many people show up to games? Bobby’s Cox
I don’t know. When the Yankees and Red Sox are in town, I’m sure they’d show up just fine. LOL!
I’m not saying “fire sale” and before next season starts, rid ourselves of all high salary. That would be disasterous. But they could STOP taking on big contracts in trades and signing free agents in their late 30’s.
The difference between Florida and Atlanta (from what I’ve seen), is the fans would show up and support a winning team in Atlanta (regardless of the names on the jersey), where Florida fans will show up in October (if they’re interested at all).
The Braves could build a good nucleus of young players. Trade off the veterans and expensive contracts and when said youngsters are ready for a raise, either trade the ones off that aren’t part of the lont-term future (based on the farm system and who’s coming up), and sign the other ones that ARE part of the “future” to extensions.
It’s essentially what JS did in the 90’s. Until he went out and got Weiss and Galarraga between the 97 and 98 seasons, Maddux in 93 was the only big splash on the open market. EVERYBODY else was guys that came up through the system that they locked up. Even McGriff was given an extension.
So unlike Tex or Vazquez (who I doubt will ever get an extension to stay in Atlanta), when JS traded prospects for guys in their prime, he did it KNOWING that they would be retained long-term. Add to that, he was able to sign those guys to extensions WITHOUT “no-trade” clauses so HE could control how long he had to hang on to them.
That’s all I’m saying. Build the team for the long-haul (through the draft and trades – and even signing a YOUNG “about to hit his prime” guy like they did with Maddux), rather than always constructing a team to make a run in the upcoming season, while throwing caution to the wind (like signing D-Lowe to a four year deal).
Poorjeff
June 24th, 2009
7:11 pm
I would love for Braves to get Melkey, hell yes.
Bobby's Cox
June 24th, 2009
7:12 pm
I’d rather have Gary Matthews Jr. instead of Guillen…he’s cheaper, better, and he wants out of Anaheim so he can play everyday…
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
7:12 pm
Nolie
IF the Royals eat half the salary, then its a deal
Heath (Cleveland)
June 24th, 2009
7:13 pm
KK is pounding that strike zone, huh?
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
7:13 pm
AGAIN MELKY WAS IN THE LINEUP BUT FOR SOME REASON THEY TOOK HIM OUT
nolie
June 24th, 2009
7:14 pm
They need to score some runs tonight. Kinda hard to believe they will pitch a third low-scoring game in a row isn’t it?
C’mon Chipper, forget that I said you are gonna have a down year, rub my face in your continued greatness. I can handle it.
Interested Observer
June 24th, 2009
7:14 pm
Lawton: That’s a fair point and again I like Prado and don’t mean to single him out. But I’m not sure it would be a great hardship to miss one winter ball season in order to heal a nagging injury, particularly one that, if you believe Bobby, is preventing him from claiming his rightful starting spot.
GboroBravo
June 24th, 2009
7:14 pm
Anyone else having problems with Peachtree TV? ESPN 2 is blacked out and PTV isn’t working for some reason.
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June 24th, 2009
7:15 pm
[...] in his past 26 games, including last night
Jennifer
June 24th, 2009
7:15 pm
GboroBravo my peachtree tv is working fine
Vinings Jim
June 24th, 2009
7:15 pm
Great start, Kenshin!
Heath (Cleveland)
June 24th, 2009
7:15 pm
Nice inning!
FEAR
June 24th, 2009
7:15 pm
KK looking good!!
Jeff321
June 24th, 2009
7:15 pm
Special K strikes out the BIG CHOKER!
Jennifer
June 24th, 2009
7:15 pm
what a great 1st inning
bravesgrl4life
June 24th, 2009
7:15 pm
KK is dealing tonight at least for the first.
Bobby's Cox
June 24th, 2009
7:16 pm
<em?The Braves could build a good nucleus of young players. Trade off the veterans and expensive contracts and when said youngsters are ready for a raise, either trade the ones off that aren’t part of the lont-term future (based on the farm system and who’s coming up), and sign the other ones that ARE part of the “future” to extensions.
N8,
Then we’d be right back in the same boat with a $90,000+ payroll….Believe me, I get your point and even agree with it to an extent, but I think the Braves have found a good balance between high salaried veterans and youngsters….The Marlin way is a little more risky, though that risk has paid off. Very few other small market teams have been unable to do it.
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
7:16 pm
lets keep tex 0 for – this series
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
7:17 pm
GA kills the Yankees
nolie
June 24th, 2009
7:17 pm
I would love for Braves to get Melkey, hell yes. (PoorJeff)
I’m not a Melky fan. He has been a questionable hitter till they got into the new band-box stadium this year. I don’t want the guy enough to give up anything worthwhile.
CLE
June 24th, 2009
7:18 pm
Heath –
Haha! Yes, it was actually my husband’s job that brought us up here. Income is a good thing; allows us to afford the Extra Innings package on Directv, so I can catch all these Braves games!
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
7:18 pm
Mclouth grounds out
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
7:19 pm
Chipper vs Joba
FEAR
June 24th, 2009
7:21 pm
where was that jeff trade rumor?
FloridaBrave
June 24th, 2009
7:21 pm
I just noticed this…but how long has Chipper been using the black bat from the left-side?
I remember him only using the black bat from the right-side.
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
7:21 pm
FEAR
it might be insider
Bobby's Cox
June 24th, 2009
7:22 pm
Chipper normally hits that pitch over the fence (that 3-1 pitch)
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
7:22 pm
Damnit it tex
Brooklyn Braves Brawler
June 24th, 2009
7:23 pm
Tex is a hell of firstbase man
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
7:23 pm
CHhipper has been in a funk, i dont remember the last time he was hitting under 300
nolie
June 24th, 2009
7:23 pm
(BRAVESMAN)
I just can’t figure out why KC would do that. Andt it’s not just this year, he has another over-paid year still on the contract. Would KC pay half of that? I doubt it and I don’t see the Braves paying him 12 mil next year. I could be wrong about that, but I know for a fact that I don’t want them paying him 12 mil next year.
Brooklyn Braves Brawler
June 24th, 2009
7:24 pm
Seinfeld puffy shirt episode + TBS = Classic
Heath (Cleveland)
June 24th, 2009
7:26 pm
Scoreless after 1 inning in Tampa
FEAR
June 24th, 2009
7:26 pm
nice catch nate
Brooklyn Braves Brawler
June 24th, 2009
7:27 pm
KK looking good early on!
Heath (Cleveland)
June 24th, 2009
7:27 pm
Looks like another game with a lot people in the stands…Any guesses on attendance DOB?
RHR
June 24th, 2009
7:30 pm
Enter your comments here
Bobby's Cox
June 24th, 2009
7:30 pm
Does KK have his own Japanese trainer? Who was that guy he was long tossing with before the game?
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
7:30 pm
NOLIE
Frank wren said we have a limited payroll, so if we do trade for him you can guarantee that KC will pay alot of that contract. I would rather want Melky.
FloridaBrave
June 24th, 2009
7:31 pm
Bobby’s Cox,
I’m guessing it was his interpreter.
Heath (Cleveland)
June 24th, 2009
7:31 pm
VERY nice catch!
Jeff321
June 24th, 2009
7:31 pm
WOW, nice catch by Clout.
Bobby's Cox
June 24th, 2009
7:31 pm
Wow.. Nice catch!
FEAR
June 24th, 2009
7:31 pm
NATE AGAIN!!!!
N8
June 24th, 2009
7:31 pm
What a catch by McLouth!
FloridaBrave
June 24th, 2009
7:31 pm
McLouth’s defense looks better than advertised to me.
David O'Brien
June 24th, 2009
7:31 pm
OK, now THAT is covering some serious ground. McLouth’s got wheels.
Heath (Cleveland)
June 24th, 2009
7:32 pm
He covered some ground on that one.
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
7:32 pm
Bobby’s Cox
It could be his personal translator, everyone knows how to toss a ball
Pennski
June 24th, 2009
7:32 pm
wow, didn’t think he was going to catch up to that one… what a catch
Mixxo
June 24th, 2009
7:32 pm
Nate = Professional Center Fielder
Bobby's Cox
June 24th, 2009
7:33 pm
I don’t even remember Andruw going to that part of LCF to get those. Wow.
cricket
June 24th, 2009
7:33 pm
Screw the stats, GG for McLouth
jukeandjive
June 24th, 2009
7:33 pm
WOW!
N8
June 24th, 2009
7:33 pm
Bobby’s, what’s the matter, are you too stupid to figure out the italics thing? Just kidding.
No, I hear you. I think the thing that seperates the Marlins, is that they seem to have a pretty damn good grasp on analyzing talent. Whether it’s their own guys they draft and develop, or the guys the snag from other teams in the trades they make.
FloridaBrave
June 24th, 2009
7:33 pm
DOB,
Chipper used a light-brown bat left-handed, IIRC, and a black bat right-handed. I see he’s now using a black bat. Is he using the right-handed bat from the left-side? If so, for how long has this been going on.
Epinephrine
June 24th, 2009
7:33 pm
Wow
RHR
June 24th, 2009
7:33 pm
Guys don’t make a lot until they’re arb-eligible,
Relatively speaking, of course.
McClouth with the web gem! Holy crap what a catch!
cricket
June 24th, 2009
7:33 pm
Has anyone scouted KK’s interpreter?
Heath (Cleveland)
June 24th, 2009
7:33 pm
Gonna get me a cold one. I don’t always drink beer, but when I do, I prefer Dos Equis. What can I say, I am the most interesting man in the world.
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
7:34 pm
Yankees Hitting the ball pretty well against KK. Hopefully KK can adjust.
GboroBravo
June 24th, 2009
7:34 pm
Anyone know awebsite where I can stream the video or audio for the game since PTV isn’t working and ESPN 2 is blacked out?
Coldwork
June 24th, 2009
7:35 pm
DOB,
I noticed last night and tonight that Chipper is using his black bats when hitting left handed. The black bats are the ones that he normally uses right handed and are lighter. Any idea if Chipper is feeling a little weak from the left side?
FEAR
June 24th, 2009
7:35 pm
Chip shut up
Epinephrine
June 24th, 2009
7:35 pm
Yeah KK has dodged a few bullets thus far. But hey, it’s two scoreless. Still, this doesn’t figure to be another shut out.
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
7:35 pm
DOB
where do you get to sit???next to wren
Bobby's Cox
June 24th, 2009
7:37 pm
lol N8…sucks when you hit submit then look at the screen and see the error… oh well.
One more thing I forgot to mention that EPSN actually did was that when you have veterans around, then kids grown up watching them. They made a comment about how all the Atlantans have been watching Chipper over all these years.
That’s how you create a fan base, a la my sports marketing class in college. How many different kids have the kids in Florida grown up watching? I’m sure that contributes to attendance.
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
7:37 pm
Cricket
do you watch cricket??
My favorite team is Pakistan, Pakistan just won the 20/20 world cup. I was pumped.
McFann ;Ô;
June 24th, 2009
7:37 pm
Not even sure how BMac hit that ball! But I’ll take it!
Brooklyn Braves Brawler
June 24th, 2009
7:37 pm
Loaf’s walkup music is some old DOC “Let’s get it Funky”. Old NWA and Dre stuff from the early 90’s. Classic
Bobby's Cox
June 24th, 2009
7:38 pm
GA hit that pretty good.
RHR
June 24th, 2009
7:38 pm
Why would Frank Wren be in the press box?
McFann ;Ô;
June 24th, 2009
7:38 pm
Man…if only GA had eaten another biscuit for breakfast…
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
7:39 pm
RHR
I really have no idea where people sit, my bad
Moron Alert
June 24th, 2009
7:39 pm
DOB,
I noticed last night that Chipper is using a bat that looks like a candy cane from the left side and a barbers pole from the right side. Do you know if he is OK? He normally doesnt use that bat unless he is getting a haircut
Bill in VA
June 24th, 2009
7:40 pm
Andruw who?
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
7:40 pm
Casey was hot b4 he got hurt
FEAR
June 24th, 2009
7:41 pm
casey might need some more rehab games in gwinette
FEAR
June 24th, 2009
7:41 pm
hahahha look at that stat they showed for frenchy
Vinings Jim
June 24th, 2009
7:42 pm
Good try, Jeff.
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
7:42 pm
Frenchy trying to kill the ball, whats new
FloridaBrave
June 24th, 2009
7:42 pm
Francoeur just missed a hanging slider right over the middle of the plate.
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
7:42 pm
FEAR
what was it??
Bobby's Cox
June 24th, 2009
7:43 pm
Frenchy really needs to keep his hands in. He pulls them in when he starts his swing anyway, so why not just start them there in the 1st place? Keep your hands back and stay inside the ball Jeff….
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
7:44 pm
KK keeping up the scoreless streak
Bobby's Cox
June 24th, 2009
7:44 pm
Rays on top of Philly early….
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
7:45 pm
20 scoreless innings
Vinings Jim
June 24th, 2009
7:45 pm
I can feel the excitement running through the blog thinking about Greg Norton’s possible return.
FEAR
June 24th, 2009
7:45 pm
48%of his ABs are first pitch swings #1 in NL
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
7:46 pm
Norton has 2 rbi triple today, his only AB
Heath (Cleveland)
June 24th, 2009
7:46 pm
2-0 Rays.
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
7:47 pm
i dont know since norton has left we have been playing well
CorkylikesBeer
June 24th, 2009
7:47 pm
Frenchy hit another one really hard but right at someone..just bad luck again
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
7:48 pm
I really hope we can rough up pettite, he really killed us in the WS
GboroBravo
June 24th, 2009
7:48 pm
Can someone help me out with a link to hear the Braves game?
Jeff321
June 24th, 2009
7:49 pm
Special K takes one off the mouth piece.
cricket
June 24th, 2009
7:49 pm
Bravesman,
Yup, big cricket fan, originally from India. Amazing win for Pakistan. I picked them over the chokers from South Africa and then Sri Lanka. Pak bowling is again pretty good with some of the younger bowlers coming thru. I hope they are able to play in IPL.
joe
June 24th, 2009
7:49 pm
HOly smoke! KK, please be ok
Heath (Cleveland)
June 24th, 2009
7:49 pm
Joba made some good contact. Ouch!
Vinings Jim
June 24th, 2009
7:49 pm
Way to go, Nolan Kawakami!!!!
FEAR
June 24th, 2009
7:49 pm
kk almost decapitated…..did i just see him leave? damn…here comes bennett
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
7:49 pm
Scary moment their
Brooklyn Braves Brawler
June 24th, 2009
7:50 pm
K-Dub is tough mother-effer! Luv that guy!
Vinings Jim
June 24th, 2009
7:50 pm
corkylikesbeer – thanks for the laugh
Mixxo
June 24th, 2009
7:50 pm
KK’s aight!
Bobby's Cox
June 24th, 2009
7:50 pm
man, that could’ve hit him in the throat….scary…
joe
June 24th, 2009
7:50 pm
Few inches higher and that is major disaster
McFann =Ô=
June 24th, 2009
7:51 pm
Oh, I hope KK is OK!!
McCann almost couldn’t decide whether he should backup Kotchy like he s’posed to, or go over to Kawakami…
Epinephrine
June 24th, 2009
7:51 pm
was that blood?
David O'Brien
June 24th, 2009
7:51 pm
That was scary. Still not sure where it hit him. Waiting for replay.
FEAR
June 24th, 2009
7:51 pm
oh sorry that was out 3 my mistake
McFann :Ô:
June 24th, 2009
7:51 pm
Joe Few inches higher and that is major disaster
Baseball is a game of inches…
Brooklyn Braves Brawler
June 24th, 2009
7:51 pm
GBoroBravo
Try this one:
http://player.cumulusstreaming.com/Audioplay.html?WIFN-FM
David O'Brien
June 24th, 2009
7:52 pm
Looked like right collarbone area.
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
7:52 pm
Cricket
Afridi was awesome in that game. You have no idea what i had to go through to watch that game. Dish network said i have to pay like 250 bucks for that channel. I had to find it online
CorkylikesBeer
June 24th, 2009
7:52 pm
Is it bad that I prefer the ESPN telecast
joe
June 24th, 2009
7:52 pm
Medlen comin in
David O'Brien
June 24th, 2009
7:52 pm
Medlen’s up in ‘pen.
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
7:52 pm
Damn KK is done
Jeff321
June 24th, 2009
7:52 pm
I guess KK must be hurt from that one.. Couldn’t really tell if he got the glove up or not.
Medlen is up in the pen.
Bobby's Cox
June 24th, 2009
7:52 pm
Medlen up….Yanks gonna get a taste of our top pitching prospects in back-to-back nights
Train Wreck Bystander
June 24th, 2009
7:53 pm
GboroBravo: Someone said earlier its being streamed on the ESPN website
groundfog
June 24th, 2009
7:53 pm
dang bad luck KK was on
GboroBravo
June 24th, 2009
7:53 pm
Can anyone help me out with streaming audio for the game since PTV isn’t working and ESPN 2 is blacked out?
Tomahawkin
June 24th, 2009
7:53 pm
Dammit…!
I’m Not hating on Medlen but I don’t Think Medlen will do well going against this offense…I think he will let the Jitters of going against the Yankee offense get to him
I know I would…
joe
June 24th, 2009
7:53 pm
god i hope he is ok. cmon, lets get medlen some runs!
GboroBravo
June 24th, 2009
7:53 pm
Time Warner in my area doesn’t carry it for some reason Train Wreck.
K Johnson
June 24th, 2009
7:53 pm
corky
I’m blacked out and having to watch it on css/peachtree. It looks like atari. I still haven’t seen the ball actually hit kk. So no it’s not bad.
Brooklyn Braves Brawler
June 24th, 2009
7:53 pm
KJ blows!
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
7:54 pm
Nice contact kelly, cough cough
Vinings Jim
June 24th, 2009
7:54 pm
Combined Perfect Game?
FEAR
June 24th, 2009
7:54 pm
aawwww crap KK was cruising
K Johnson
June 24th, 2009
7:54 pm
of course it’s not hd
Epinephrine
June 24th, 2009
7:54 pm
Looked like he spit out blood on the way out. Wouldn’t be surprised if it bruised his throat or something.
Mixxo
June 24th, 2009
7:54 pm
Crap! I guess he isn’t “aight.”
Tomahawkin
June 24th, 2009
7:54 pm
Kamakaze Might’ve Pitched Better tonight than he did in his last start…
It’s About Time They Play some Good Batter Intro Music for Diory!
joe
June 24th, 2009
7:54 pm
tomahawkin, i believe he has those issues worked out. i for one think he’s talented and will step it up. i guess we’ll see.
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
7:54 pm
Medlen cant handle pressure yet
RHR
June 24th, 2009
7:54 pm
YIKES holy crap I hope he’s okay. Joba, you fat ba$stard, eat a salad or two how ’bout it.
Welp. Here comes Medlen the bag of nerves vs the most revered lineup in baseball. Dammit.
Mixxo
June 24th, 2009
7:55 pm
Medlen’s gonna get ROCKED!
Heath (Cleveland)
June 24th, 2009
7:55 pm
Greaaaaaaat. Gosh I hope Medlen is able to keep himself relaxed and keep us in the game.
Epinephrine
June 24th, 2009
7:55 pm
This will be a big test for Medlen.
Tomahawkin
June 24th, 2009
7:55 pm
Combined Perfect Game Would Be Too Sweet…
The League Is About due for another one…
It would be too sweet if it came against the Bankees!
CorkylikesBeer
June 24th, 2009
7:55 pm
I am in athens, ga and they usually black out the espn telecast but not tonight.
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
7:56 pm
KK didnt really look like he was hurting that bad. Maybe it is just for precautionary reasons.
Mitchell
June 24th, 2009
7:56 pm
What an @$$hole. That’s the only way he was going to beat Kawakami.
What a bunch of ****.
Brooklyn Braves Brawler
June 24th, 2009
7:56 pm
Good to have Omar back after the All Star Break. Chip and Joe say he got the cast off today.
Tomahawkin
June 24th, 2009
7:57 pm
RHR
Welp. Here comes Medlen the bag of nerves vs the most revered lineup in baseball. Dammit.
Agreed…I’m having Flashbacks of that Colorado Start…
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
7:57 pm
Nice hit Mclouth
K Johnson
June 24th, 2009
7:57 pm
who is this guy batting? where is woodward?
Mitchell
June 24th, 2009
7:57 pm
Good thing Kelly or Diory didn’t get on base. Wouldn’t want that.
JJ (WTH is Jeff Bennett still on the roster???)
June 24th, 2009
7:57 pm
Way to go Nate!!
Jack
June 24th, 2009
7:57 pm
Nater!
Heath (Cleveland)
June 24th, 2009
7:57 pm
Good hit there by McLouth. I wanna see some 2-out magic here boys!!!
groundfog
June 24th, 2009
7:57 pm
McClouth is the man. Thank you!
Tomahawkin
June 24th, 2009
7:57 pm
There We Go Nate-Dawg!!!
Vinings Jim
June 24th, 2009
7:57 pm
RHR – “the most revered lineup in baseball” – maybe not so much this year, with a .200 hitter batting cleanup. GO NATE!!!
Doc Holiday
June 24th, 2009
7:57 pm
Is there really a reason not to at least let KK warm up? Then decide?
I know it could be serious, but no reason not to let him try.
J williams
June 24th, 2009
7:57 pm
Hope KK is ok. I don’t know if Medlen’s ready for this type of pressure. Remember his first two starts.
RHR
June 24th, 2009
7:58 pm
Did y’all really see him spitting out blood? I was too mad to look. Damn Damn Damn.
Alright top of lineup do your thang.
Bobby's Cox
June 24th, 2009
7:58 pm
I don’t know how much “pressure” there will be on Medlen. I mean, have you been paying attention to the Yankees offense as of late?
Mitchell
June 24th, 2009
7:58 pm
Yeah right Mixxo, Medlen’s going to kick their @$$es.
I can’t believe that. What a punk.
RHR
June 24th, 2009
7:58 pm
I know it’s not on paper, Jim, but in Medlen’s 22 year old head I’m sure it is.
Bobby's Cox
June 24th, 2009
7:59 pm
Doc, they already pinch hit for him. He’s done for the day.
Jack
June 24th, 2009
7:59 pm
Let’s hope KK is OK.
joe
June 24th, 2009
7:59 pm
I think Medlen will do just fine.
BravesFanChris24
June 24th, 2009
7:59 pm
I hope Kawakami is alright. That looked sick and not in a good way
Jake W.
June 24th, 2009
7:59 pm
Hope KK is alright, hopefully medlen will continue the good pitching.
CorkylikesBeer
June 24th, 2009
7:59 pm
Can we all hold hands and say a prayer for KK
Jack
June 24th, 2009
8:00 pm
The key is throwing strikes for KM. Can’t get behind in the count.
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
8:00 pm
I was thinking about the pirates lineup if they kept bay nady mclouth
Mclouth
Sanchez
Nady
Bay
Ad. Laroch
An. Laroche
Jaramillo
Wilson
RHR
June 24th, 2009
8:00 pm
Maybe Medlen will surprise me, I’d love that. Go get ‘em Kris Medlen!
joe
June 24th, 2009
8:01 pm
Why is everyone so negative on Medlen without even giving him a chance? Let him pitch an inning at least, for God’s sake
Mitchell
June 24th, 2009
8:01 pm
By the way Mixxo, I wasn’t calling you a punk. I was referring of course to that douche Chambermaid.
Oh, I burned him. No really I did.
Heath (Cleveland)
June 24th, 2009
8:01 pm
Still 2-0 after 3 in Tampa.
Brooklyn Braves Brawler
June 24th, 2009
8:01 pm
KK is quickly becoming one of my favorite pitchers. The guy battles. I hope he doesn’t miss a start. He’s been dealin as of late.
BTW, KJ Blows!
CorkylikesBeer
June 24th, 2009
8:01 pm
I hope Medlen wears his Depends on the mound against the Yankees
rob from sc
June 24th, 2009
8:01 pm
I change my mind. The hell with the big bat. Keep Vazquez and Medlen and the rest of out pitching.
Vinings Jim
June 24th, 2009
8:01 pm
RHR – maybe I’m being overly optimistic, but I have faith – he needs to show Bobby he should be pitching a whole lot more.
bravesgrl4life
June 24th, 2009
8:01 pm
that sucks about kk. i’m following on game day tonight since i got to watch the whole game last night. i hope medlen plunks a yank sometime tonight. go get ‘em eric!
Bobby's Cox
June 24th, 2009
8:01 pm
Who says Medlen can’t handle pressure. That was his 1st start. He was excellent in his 3rd start and in an extra inning game against the Pirates. If anything he might suck because Bobby hasn’t pitched him in a year…
J williams
June 24th, 2009
8:01 pm
Sometimes the pressure is imagined, and not actually real.
Unknown
June 24th, 2009
8:02 pm
Great, our best pitcher is hurt. C’mon Medlen.
Mitchell
June 24th, 2009
8:02 pm
I can’t believe those Yankee fans. It’s sickening.
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
8:02 pm
cmon
FEAR
June 24th, 2009
8:02 pm
man this is gonna be nerve wracking
cricket
June 24th, 2009
8:02 pm
Bravesman,
Try spectralmedia.org for cricket. They provide mms links at very cheap rates.
Afridi was the man of the tournament. Also glad that younis khan has retired from T20. I am sick of people dissing T20.
RHR
June 24th, 2009
8:03 pm
The key for Medlen is first of all, slow down, second of all, forget the faces and the names, don’t even look at them, just watch Mac and throw, and….Mac and Chipper need to get at him like they did before.
And the damn Braves fans need to get up and drown out those stupid chants.
I’m SO mad right now. Man what a tough break.
cabravesfan
June 24th, 2009
8:03 pm
RHR-
I know you aren’t talking badly about my boy are you?
Jack
June 24th, 2009
8:03 pm
Jeter…check.
Next.
Mitchell
June 24th, 2009
8:03 pm
That’s right Yankees. Nice try.
Keep your mouths shut.
Jack
June 24th, 2009
8:04 pm
Damon…check.
Next.
Heath (Cleveland)
June 24th, 2009
8:04 pm
That was unnecessary harassment there from Suckliffe. Yunel had PLENTY of time and he just wanted to make sure he made a good throw.
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
8:04 pm
KK didnt look like it killed him, you saw that Mcann asked him if he was OK and KK nodded.
RHR
June 24th, 2009
8:04 pm
I have faith too, Jim. I like Medlen a lot, he has a lot of potential, just wish he didn’t have to come in unexpectedly like that vs the Yankees. Plus, I’m mad and maybe a little bit irrational. lol
Jack
June 24th, 2009
8:05 pm
Teixeira…check.
Sweet.
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
8:05 pm
Oh my god made tex look bad
groundfog
June 24th, 2009
8:05 pm
Medlen!
Jeff321
June 24th, 2009
8:05 pm
Medlen strikes out the BIG CHOKER!
Unknown
June 24th, 2009
8:05 pm
Ok, Medlen works just fine, lol.
Chop It Up All-star
June 24th, 2009
8:05 pm
Who is this dude to bagging on Escobar – geez.
Heath (Cleveland)
June 24th, 2009
8:05 pm
Whew!!! Cy Medlen out there in that inning.
Bobby's Cox
June 24th, 2009
8:05 pm
haha…Medlen gets Tex on 3 pitches….Awesome!
FEAR
June 24th, 2009
8:05 pm
strike out of the billion dollar man……awesome! Get ‘Em Medlin!!!
BravesFanChris24
June 24th, 2009
8:05 pm
Medlen
Soph
June 24th, 2009
8:05 pm
Wow. Go ahead little Medlen.
cricket
June 24th, 2009
8:05 pm
Little KK is dealing..
Mitchell
June 24th, 2009
8:05 pm
Two outs.
“Dead Bats Society”? That’s embarrassing. The New York media is retarded. Those writers probably never lifted a bat.
WHAT DID I SAY!? BRING IT KRIS!
Yankees suck.
Brooklyn Braves Brawler
June 24th, 2009
8:05 pm
Medlen has a good half inning
Unknown
June 24th, 2009
8:05 pm
DOB, how bout an update on KK, like now.
rob from sc
June 24th, 2009
8:05 pm
great work for Medlen. I have the game muted. Please let me know any update on Kawakami
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
8:05 pm
He pitched right where Mcann is telling him to pitch.
FloridaBrave
June 24th, 2009
8:06 pm
McCann definitely read the scouting report on Tex. He called for a curveball in the dirt and to Medlen’s credit, he hit his spot.
Good start for Medlen.
McFann :Ô:
June 24th, 2009
8:06 pm
Bravesman–
Yeah.
(McCann is spelled with two c’s, BTW.)
Jack
June 24th, 2009
8:06 pm
Put Medlen back in the rotation. You can’t stop him.
Mixxo
June 24th, 2009
8:07 pm
Don’t get me wrong, I’m pullin’ for the kid.
But, he looked like he was about to pee his uni when he first got to the mound. :facepalm:
He’ll settle down.
Epinephrine
June 24th, 2009
8:07 pm
If his control is working, that is a very, very good sign.
David O'Brien
June 24th, 2009
8:07 pm
One pressbox wag just said, “Hey, if Kawakami’s hurt, I hear Tom Glavine might be available.”
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
8:07 pm
Medlen knows that Hanosnn is watching him
McFann :Ô:
June 24th, 2009
8:07 pm
FloridaBrave–
Dang! I missed it! Looked good on the Gameday, though…
Love it when our pitchers hit their spots!
CorkylikesBeer
June 24th, 2009
8:07 pm
Heath..do you remember what smoltzie said about suckliffe
Shamus Thacker
June 24th, 2009
8:07 pm
Hope Medlin can hold it long enough to take Bennett out of the equation.
FloridaBrave
June 24th, 2009
8:07 pm
Chipper back to the light brown bat after using the black one first AB.
Hmmm…
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
8:07 pm
DOB
HAHAHHA
Unknown
June 24th, 2009
8:08 pm
Chipper needs a hit in the worst way.
Unknown
June 24th, 2009
8:08 pm
Nice
Mitchell
June 24th, 2009
8:08 pm
Bust his kneecap next time Chipper.
Brooklyn Braves Brawler
June 24th, 2009
8:09 pm
I am noticing that the board members are perking up fo KK, I figured that we all had some unreal expectations for KK initially. Now we know what he is and we changed our expectations. I am a big fan of Javy, D.Lowe, JJ, and Tommy Boy!
Jack
June 24th, 2009
8:10 pm
Good hit Chip! Home run time baby!
Unknown
June 24th, 2009
8:10 pm
One could argue that KK has been better than JJ & Lowe this month. 9 straight starts allowing 3 runs or fewer. Thats pretty consistent.
Mixxo
June 24th, 2009
8:10 pm
Does Joba have the biggest cheeks ever on a human being?
Jeff321
June 24th, 2009
8:10 pm
Sutcliffe says McCann will get surgery in the off season.
RHR
June 24th, 2009
8:11 pm
I hope you boo’ed him, DOB.
bravesgrl4life
June 24th, 2009
8:11 pm
I am with ya, McFann. Meden’s looking sharp.
Mitchell
June 24th, 2009
8:12 pm
It’s too bad you can’t unvote someone cause, uh, Teixeira sucks.
I don’t have very strong feelings for or against the lumberjack on the other hand.
Vinings Jim
June 24th, 2009
8:12 pm
Ouch!
rob from sc
June 24th, 2009
8:12 pm
Bad swing
RHR
June 24th, 2009
8:12 pm
Brooklyn Braves, KK has proven himself to be a very good big hype game pitcher, and even in his other starts he hangs around and settles in. I’m a fan.
Mitchell
June 24th, 2009
8:12 pm
Come on man.
Brian, you’ve disappointed me.
rob from sc
June 24th, 2009
8:12 pm
Mac doesn’t get fooled like that very often
bravesgirlnc
June 24th, 2009
8:13 pm
Bravesman
The Pirates got Andy LaRoach in the Bay trade.
FloridaBrave
June 24th, 2009
8:13 pm
I’d have Chipper swipe one here. Joba’s slow to the plate.
Bobby Cox Hat Tipping Club
June 24th, 2009
8:13 pm
Just shows how perceptions differ. Medlin got them three up and three down and some here said it was a good inning. Yes it was a good inning with no baserunners. But two of those outs were shots off the bats of the Yanks. I actually hope Medlin has a little more than he showed that first inning.
David O'Brien
June 24th, 2009
8:13 pm
Another reason why the rumors you hear about the Braves trading a starting pitcher during this season, while they’re still in the race, are most likely not coming from anyone connected to the team.
McFann :Ô:
June 24th, 2009
8:14 pm
I’d like to see Chip come out here and make me tip my cap!
Jeff321–
For what?
bravesgrl4life–
Really? I haven’t actually seen him yet tonight…
CorkylikesBeer
June 24th, 2009
8:14 pm
Loaf is back
the real Andy
June 24th, 2009
8:14 pm
gotta say – i don’t really want soriano to make the all-star team. the less work the better for him
FloridaBrave
June 24th, 2009
8:14 pm
Pathetic AB from Anderson. Did that even go 59 feet?
RHR
June 24th, 2009
8:14 pm
I was just thinking that, DOB. Who still wants to trade Vazquez?
Brooklyn Braves Brawler
June 24th, 2009
8:14 pm
I didn’t think Joba was this good
Jeff321
June 24th, 2009
8:15 pm
McFann – For his eye.
Jack
June 24th, 2009
8:15 pm
Casey get A HIT!
GboroBravo
June 24th, 2009
8:16 pm
Finally PTV is working for me
Unknown
June 24th, 2009
8:17 pm
Awfense showed up tonight…
Tomahawkin
June 24th, 2009
8:17 pm
I can’t Believe Joe And Chip Think Highly of this offense over the last 4 games…
The Offense is still Inconsistant…
McFann :Ô:
June 24th, 2009
8:17 pm
Jeff321–
That’s what I thought. (Guess you should have added a “duh”, I mean, what the else would he be having surgery on?)
Anyway, how does what’s-his-face know?
cabravesfan
June 24th, 2009
8:17 pm
Brooklyn Braves Brawler-
Joba can be very, very good or very, very bad. Looks like good joba made the trip…
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
8:19 pm
Medlen lets do 3 up 3 down
cabravesfan
June 24th, 2009
8:19 pm
is it really necessary to say “offensive” when talking about hitting? Or is defensive hitting a new stat?
Jack
June 24th, 2009
8:19 pm
Enter your comments here
Tomahawkin
June 24th, 2009
8:19 pm
To Everyone In here
Joba Has Only Looked Good because He has that Juggernaut Bankees Offense Behind Him…
Put Him In a Braves Uniform He’d Have a Sub .500 Record…
Jake W.
June 24th, 2009
8:19 pm
I have to think the reason that Bobby mainly keeps sticking with KJ over Prado is because Prado is not fully healthy. Otherwise can’t see why.
David O'Brien
June 24th, 2009
8:20 pm
Between innings on the huge video board, where they play Dream Weaver and show fans who look like characters from TV shows, they did Sopranos characters tonight. They showed a guy who looked a lot like Tony, particularly the body type and the outfit. Crowd got a kick out of that.
Mitchell
June 24th, 2009
8:20 pm
You’d think if you got booed in every stadium including your own and you’re not even playing that well that you’re probably a bitch.
A-Rod sucks. What a douche.
Heath (Cleveland)
June 24th, 2009
8:20 pm
CorkylikeBeer –
He said???
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
8:20 pm
love how esco plays SS
David O'Brien
June 24th, 2009
8:20 pm
A-Rod’s average is down to .204 after that out
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
8:21 pm
2 gone
uga-brave
June 24th, 2009
8:21 pm
joba walked 40 in 73 innings. none tonight.
Jeff321
June 24th, 2009
8:21 pm
McFann, I can paraphrase what Sutcliffe said:
He mentioned talking to McCann recently and he said something about wearing the glasses because that’s all he can do until the off season when he gets surgery.
Jack
June 24th, 2009
8:21 pm
Ha-Ha A-Rod you STINK!
Heath (Cleveland)
June 24th, 2009
8:21 pm
Still 2-0 Rays after 4.
RHR
June 24th, 2009
8:21 pm
lol Mitchell tellin it like it is tonight.
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
8:22 pm
DOB
He also has truck load of money doing that
CorkylikesBeer
June 24th, 2009
8:22 pm
Heath..he is just an announcer
Unknown
June 24th, 2009
8:22 pm
I wonder if A-Rod’s teammates still call him b*tch t*ts?
Mitchell
June 24th, 2009
8:22 pm
They all look like Tony Soprano if you ask me.
By the way, let’s get some runs because we’re kicking their @$$e$ otherwise.
I didn’t like Medlen at first. I wanted to see Glavine on Tommy Hanson before he ever made a start but I gotta admit, he’s a baddass.
Sorry for the language.
Vinings Jim
June 24th, 2009
8:22 pm
RHR – only people whose intelligence I would question if I was the type to attack my dear friends on the blog (not that it was a bright idea before tonight).
rob from sc
June 24th, 2009
8:23 pm
Why does Joe Simpson seem so suprised to see a player with poor bat speed. Get gets to watch Jeff Francoeur every night.
Heath (Cleveland)
June 24th, 2009
8:23 pm
Cy Medlen indeed.
Brooklyn Braves Brawler
June 24th, 2009
8:23 pm
Swisher swings hard just in case he hits it! LOL
Vinings Jim
June 24th, 2009
8:23 pm
Let’s get some flippin’ runs!!!!!!!!!!
FEAR
June 24th, 2009
8:23 pm
wooooooo……Kris kicking some ass
groundfog
June 24th, 2009
8:24 pm
Medlen, if you have not bought a house in ATL yet, go ahead lol
joe
June 24th, 2009
8:24 pm
how do you guys and gals like my boy medlen now?
Unknown
June 24th, 2009
8:24 pm
No hitter through 5!
Paul Lentz
June 24th, 2009
8:24 pm
RHR………it isnt that anyone “wants” to trade Vazquez. I have repeatedly stated over and over again that I think that he is a really good pitcher. He pitches a lot of innings, keeps the team in games, never gets hurts. What is there “not to like”.
However, the way our offense is set up now, there is NO WAY that the Braves can stay in this race. The Braves NEED some right handed power.
So knowing that, either the Braves keep the roster the way it is and “hope” that our starters can keep shutting the opponents out……..or………the Braves can trade our best prospects (because that is the only other way that the Braves can get a slugger if Vazquez isnt used as trade bait).
So RHR, let me ask you this. If the Braves dont trade any of our starting pitchers for a slugger…….how would you go about improving the offense?
By the way……….15 up, 15 down.
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
8:24 pm
dont jinx the you know what
AMG
June 24th, 2009
8:24 pm
I wish the TV people would stop saying how poor the Yankees have hit lately . . . let the sleeping dogs lie. Sooner or later Jeff Bennet will enter this game . . .
abwright
June 24th, 2009
8:24 pm
Good pitch by Medlen for the strike out to end the inning.
Chip is doing his best to curse the P.G.
RHR
June 24th, 2009
8:24 pm
A grown man who carries a My Little Pony backpack just made you look foolish. Have a seat.
groundfog
June 24th, 2009
8:24 pm
Our pitching is going from good to great.Can our hitting go from poor to average?
Mitchell
June 24th, 2009
8:24 pm
Holy Cow. Wow.
Let’s get some freakin’ runs for crying out loud. Kung Pow.
I don’t know.
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
8:24 pm
Unknown
dont jinz it
Skip is Acting like a Knob
June 24th, 2009
8:24 pm
If skip talks about the obvious one more time I am going to lose it!
RHR
June 24th, 2009
8:25 pm
Sorry Paul, I’m not taking questions tonight.
bravos2249
June 24th, 2009
8:25 pm
I’m getting the PTV broadcast…..what exactly did ESPN say about Escobar?????
Paul Lentz
June 24th, 2009
8:25 pm
Unknown…..not just no-hitter through 5……..PERFECT through 5.
Skip is Acting like a Knob
June 24th, 2009
8:26 pm
He is still at it!!!!!! WTF?
David O'Brien
June 24th, 2009
8:26 pm
A-Rod has hit eight of his nine homers at Yankee Stadium. Jeter has hit seven of his nine homers there, Damon has hit 10 of his 14 there, and Teixeira’s has hit 13 of his 20 homers there.
Steve from OH
June 24th, 2009
8:26 pm
Paul, who would you trade Vazquez for?
Jack
June 24th, 2009
8:26 pm
GO KM! HE IS ON FIRE! And Yankees you STINK! BYE
Heath (Cleveland)
June 24th, 2009
8:26 pm
Gone!
Soph
June 24th, 2009
8:26 pm
Frenchy! Hell yeah!
Jeff321
June 24th, 2009
8:26 pm
Frenchy hits a jack.
RLPmetro
June 24th, 2009
8:26 pm
Attaboy, Frenchy!
Mixxo
June 24th, 2009
8:26 pm
Jeffrey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
rob from sc
June 24th, 2009
8:26 pm
how did that happen
Thinking....
June 24th, 2009
8:26 pm
ATTA BOY JEFF!!!!!!
cabravesfan
June 24th, 2009
8:26 pm
There’s your offense
Who woulda thought…
FEAR
June 24th, 2009
8:26 pm
HA! FRENCHY??!! damn
FloridaBrave
June 24th, 2009
8:26 pm
Did that just happen?
Not even Frenchy misses 2 hanging sliders!
Unknown
June 24th, 2009
8:26 pm
WTF? THAT JUST HAPPENED!
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
8:26 pm
wow, he finally killed a ball
bravefaninok
June 24th, 2009
8:26 pm
-*/OHHHHHHHHHHHHH FRENCHY!!!!!!
bill clay
June 24th, 2009
8:26 pm
I can hear it now………
BravesFanChris24
June 24th, 2009
8:26 pm
OMG A HR FRANCOEUR!
Vinings Jim
June 24th, 2009
8:26 pm
What did I just say – that’s why we love him!
Mitchell
June 24th, 2009
8:26 pm
I’ll take it.
Well done Jeff. Okay, let’s get some more runs.
Cactus Jack
June 24th, 2009
8:26 pm
FRANK THE TANK!!
keylargo
June 24th, 2009
8:26 pm
Paul Lintz! Paul Lintz! Paul Lintz!!
bravesgirlnc
June 24th, 2009
8:26 pm
And the never trade Jeff mess will begin again.
joe
June 24th, 2009
8:27 pm
WOOOOOOHOOOOOO frenchy!
abwright
June 24th, 2009
8:27 pm
How much are the Yankees paying A-Roid?
And there’s your run for the night! Francœur launches a hanging slider into the left field seats.
RHR
June 24th, 2009
8:27 pm
Skip is dead buddy. Try again.
Ugh. Attaboy Frenchy.
David O'Brien
June 24th, 2009
8:27 pm
Just as Braves were announcing that Kawakami has a contusion to the right base of his neck, Francoeur goes deeeep.
No X-Rays on Kawakami, he’s day-to-day.
Interested Observer
June 24th, 2009
8:27 pm
Joba should know better than to hit Francouer’s bat like that!
CorkylikesBeer
June 24th, 2009
8:27 pm
Finally some good luck with Frenchy..has been hitting the ball hard…..
TNScott
June 24th, 2009
8:27 pm
WOW, jEFF WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Heath (Cleveland)
June 24th, 2009
8:27 pm
How much would it kill all the Francoeur-haters if we won 1-0 on his HR?
groundfog
June 24th, 2009
8:27 pm
Jesus ESPN tiotally missed the homerun. That’s twice!
TBrown
June 24th, 2009
8:27 pm
HEY PAUL LENTZ– HOW’D THAT HANGER LOOK
Brooklyn Braves Brawler
June 24th, 2009
8:27 pm
Frenchy, wow!
Mitchell
June 24th, 2009
8:27 pm
Back to back KJ.
Whoops, too soon.
Joebrave
June 24th, 2009
8:27 pm
Well I am a speechless sommab1tch, Stenchy just went yard….My eyes are decievin me!
rob from sc
June 24th, 2009
8:27 pm
How good would we be if Jeff figures things out
Jack
June 24th, 2009
8:28 pm
Atta boy frenchie!
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
8:28 pm
Medlen a switch hitter
Unknown
June 24th, 2009
8:28 pm
I guess thats good news on KK, could have been worse. Thanks DOB.
groundfog
June 24th, 2009
8:28 pm
Espn ssobs-ughh!!missing a frenchy homerun is like missing a lunar eclipse!
Cactus Jack
June 24th, 2009
8:28 pm
They really need to put Joba back in the pen
cabravesfan
June 24th, 2009
8:28 pm
RHR-
come on! You can manage more then an “ugh” can’t you??
Kurdt Kobain
June 24th, 2009
8:28 pm
Frenchy has put some good swings on the ball the last couple of nights. Hit it hard the other way last night. That was a shot.
Mitchell
June 24th, 2009
8:28 pm
I’m not getting the game on ESPN. What a shame.
Bobby Cox Hat Tipping Club
June 24th, 2009
8:28 pm
Medlin made me breathe a little earsier that inning. Looked effective instead of tentative.
David O'Brien
June 24th, 2009
8:28 pm
For those who might remember: The Braves threw a combined no-hitter in 1991: Mercker for seven, Wohlers in the eighth, Pena in the ninth.
Tomahawk Talk
June 24th, 2009
8:28 pm
I swear everytime i write something about a player/coach they do well!
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
8:29 pm
Wow Yank broadcasters are pissing me off
Jeff321
June 24th, 2009
8:29 pm
ESPN says KK has a contusion to the base of the neck on the right side. No x-rays.
CorkylikesBeer
June 24th, 2009
8:29 pm
Rob..do pigs fly
Pennski
June 24th, 2009
8:29 pm
Paul Lentz, there goes a hanger out of the ball park for ya. I’m not trying to be antagonistic here, just wanted to point it out for you!! Hopefully he can get hot
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
8:29 pm
DOB
What did that spark to……14 divisional title
cabravesfan
June 24th, 2009
8:29 pm
Medlen was a SS in college- he can hit
joe
June 24th, 2009
8:29 pm
I sure do hope Frenchy starts doing more of that, holy smoke. Gotta feel good for him.
Mitchell
June 24th, 2009
8:29 pm
BS.
Okay, so he went. Let’s go Nate!
BravesFanChris24
June 24th, 2009
8:30 pm
Hopefully it turns out OK for Kawakami.
Heath (Cleveland)
June 24th, 2009
8:30 pm
Juuuuuust foul.
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
8:30 pm
I love Mclouths swing
Paul Lentz
June 24th, 2009
8:30 pm
UNREAL. Well, there’s your right handed power, lol.
Now that was a hanger that had “put my a$$ in the cheap seats” written ALL OVER it. That is what I was talking about when I said that Francoeur needs to DRIVE hangers. Chamberlain hung that mofo and Francoeur FINALLY made the pitcher pay for it.
Before you guys start saying “He’s coming around”…………….lets see Francoeur hit 2 or 3 more homers in the next week. That was Francoeur’s first homer since the Chicago game 3 weeks ago when he hit one off of Kevin Gregg.
Damn, Nate just missed one.
GboroBravo
June 24th, 2009
8:30 pm
DOB whats your attendance guess for the game?
Skip is Acting like a Knob
June 24th, 2009
8:31 pm
Alright, he has money on the game for sure!!!!!!
CorkylikesBeer
June 24th, 2009
8:31 pm
ca..medlen was a shortstop at santa ana community college..not really sec baseball
Unknown
June 24th, 2009
8:31 pm
Mets winning 4-0 in 5th, Marlins winning 3-0 in 5th, and Phillies losing 2-0 in the 5th.
RLPmetro
June 24th, 2009
8:31 pm
Interested Observer @ 8:27….LMAO
RHR
June 24th, 2009
8:31 pm
Way to go, DOB. You can jinx like no other. lol between you and Chip…I swear.
Jeff321
June 24th, 2009
8:31 pm
I told you people Medlen was a stud. No reason for him to not be in Bennett’s spot.
Pennski
June 24th, 2009
8:31 pm
I know Paul, we just had to bust your chops dude that’s all!
joe
June 24th, 2009
8:32 pm
Cmon Frenchy, please let this be the beginning of your comeback. That would be perfect
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
8:32 pm
As long as ESPN doesnt bring it up.
Tomahawkin
June 24th, 2009
8:33 pm
It’s Good Francoeur Hit A Homer But A Bad thing In that He will Think He Is Willie Mays Hayes from the Second Major League In That “He’s A Power Hitter Now”
Charles
June 24th, 2009
8:33 pm
A-Rod’s average is down to .204 after that out
Johnson’s avg is down to .220 after that out, and that’s a more heavily weighted .220 than A-Rod’s .204.
FEAR
June 24th, 2009
8:34 pm
damn mets and fish are winning…least the phils are losing
Trade Frenchy
June 24th, 2009
8:34 pm
Good rip Frenchy!
Now hurry and trade him while his value is higher than it was a month ago!
Tomahawkin
June 24th, 2009
8:34 pm
With All The Complaining About BSPN Calling The Game Tonight…Makes me glad That I get To Hear Chip…If he stays away from the Cubs He’s ok to listen to…
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
8:34 pm
Gardner up to bat
Mixxo
June 24th, 2009
8:34 pm
For those who might remember: The Braves threw a combined no-hitter in 1991: Mercker for seven, Wohlers in the eighth, Pena in the ninth. – DOB
I saw that game!
Chip pullin’ HARD for the Yanks to get a hit.
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
8:35 pm
perfect game gone
Pennski
June 24th, 2009
8:35 pm
ESPN.com has “braves perfect through 5″ on their home page, way to ruin it…
Unknown
June 24th, 2009
8:35 pm
There goes the perfect game.
AMG
June 24th, 2009
8:35 pm
Please tell Chip to stop talking!!!!
BravesFanChris24
June 24th, 2009
8:35 pm
There goes the perfect. No hitter still intact….for now ~_~
Bobby's Cox
June 24th, 2009
8:35 pm
Well, there goes the combined complete game…
Tomahawkin
June 24th, 2009
8:36 pm
Come On Medlen…
Hold The Runners Close…We Can’t have The Bankees Running at Will on us Tonight…
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
8:36 pm
quick move by medlen
RLPmetro
June 24th, 2009
8:36 pm
About Frenchy…I am not trying to suggest he is back or anything. But I really think that his glove is more valuable than the other players the Braves have to replace him right now. I think the trade off by putting Diaz in there defensively offsets any improved offensive numbers he may put up, and I think it’s debateable that he is an upgrade offensively after watching him last year when he did start every day. If Frenchy could only just get on base more frequently, I think he would be fine. The power can come from other spots in the lineup, too. It’s not just him that is underproducing from a power standpoint.
the hope of the braves nation rests in your hands mr hanson
June 24th, 2009
8:36 pm
damn, do you think that chip carrey purposely tries to jinx us?
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
8:36 pm
Oh man
Heath (Cleveland)
June 24th, 2009
8:36 pm
Go sit down!
FEAR
June 24th, 2009
8:36 pm
YEAH Medlen……..sweet pick off!!!!!
cabravesfan
June 24th, 2009
8:36 pm
Meds got a nice move to first! whoo hoo!
Tomahawkin
June 24th, 2009
8:36 pm
Yeahhh!!!! Good Throw Kris!!!
groundfog
June 24th, 2009
8:36 pm
woohooo!
Frumpy
June 24th, 2009
8:36 pm
Medlen getting thoe outs, but boy he throws alot of balls, needs to get ahead of the batter more often
Frumpy
June 24th, 2009
8:36 pm
Medlen getting thoe outs, but boy he throws alot of balls, needs to get ahead of the batter more often
BravesFanChris24
June 24th, 2009
8:36 pm
He got picked off!
keylargo
June 24th, 2009
8:36 pm
I LUV a pickoff!
Jeff321
June 24th, 2009
8:36 pm
Medlen, the aforementioned stud just got a little pick off action!
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
8:36 pm
Medlen you are a stud
Pennski
June 24th, 2009
8:36 pm
atta baby Medlen!!!
Good stuff baby!
FEAR
June 24th, 2009
8:37 pm
toss joe’s ass
Mitchell
June 24th, 2009
8:37 pm
Give me a break Yankees.
Sit down. You couldn’t see **** Joe.
Epinephrine
June 24th, 2009
8:37 pm
Wow keep talking about the no hitter guys. Nice work.
Brooklyn Braves Brawler
June 24th, 2009
8:37 pm
You are not supposed to mention the obvious but Chip is just running off at the mouth like a rookie announcer. He must not have watched the nmovie ” Fight Club”!
A pick off at first, Wow!
RHR
June 24th, 2009
8:37 pm
Come on, fight! fight! fight!
Where’s Chipper, go out there and cuss some more!
Paul Lentz
June 24th, 2009
8:37 pm
Pennski………..Just like I dont get too “down” when Chipper goes 0-20 (after all, we know that when Chipper busts out of he………he will hit more than 2 homers a month)……….I dont get too excited when Francoeur hits a homer. I remember when the WHOLE board lit up 3 weeks ago when Francoeur hit that homer against the Cubs. Many of you were proclaiming the slump over it.
Well, three weeks later, Francoeur finally hits another one, and many of you are saying “wow, maybe this will propel him and jump start him. After all, he’s been hitting the ball hard, lol”.
Let’s see some CONSISTENCY. Let’s see a hot streak (you know, where a hitter has a 10 game stretch where he hits 3 or 4 homers, 3 or 4 doubles, and 12 RBIs, while batting .400). I want to see a high average AND power. When Francoeur had his recent 7 for 18 stretch….he only had 1 double. That isnt going to cut it.
Point is, I need to see far more than 1 homer every 3 weeks.
keylargo
June 24th, 2009
8:37 pm
Giradi wants to get tossed
Pennski
June 24th, 2009
8:37 pm
he wanted to get tossed, needs the motivation for his team!
keylargo
June 24th, 2009
8:37 pm
AND he did
CorkylikesBeer
June 24th, 2009
8:37 pm
Joe still works out
BravesFanChris24
June 24th, 2009
8:37 pm
He was safe, but we’ll take that.
FEAR
June 24th, 2009
8:38 pm
hhehehehehe he was safe
Soph
June 24th, 2009
8:38 pm
Yeah – it’s like he told the ump to throw him out. I have to say he was safe. Horrible call.
CorkylikesBeer
June 24th, 2009
8:38 pm
wow..the umps missed that call..we got a big break
McFann :Ô:
June 24th, 2009
8:38 pm
Boo-yah!!
RHR
June 24th, 2009
8:38 pm
That was weak, Joe. After you get rung you’re supposed to REALLY go off on him, not turn around and walk off. Wuss.
groundfog
June 24th, 2009
8:38 pm
Na Na Na Na, hey hey hey goodbye…screw it we needed a break we never get those calls
Heath (Cleveland)
June 24th, 2009
8:38 pm
He was safe. We get a break.
Jake W.
June 24th, 2009
8:38 pm
A break goes the Braves way???
AndyC
June 24th, 2009
8:38 pm
Throw him out!
David O'Brien
June 24th, 2009
8:38 pm
Bad call, Braves caught a break. He was safe.
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
8:38 pm
No dont kick out Girardi, i dont want him to miss the no hitter
Tomahawkin
June 24th, 2009
8:39 pm
Finally A F’d Call goes Our Way…!
But The Umpiring Leaguewide has been Garbage all season…
cabravesfan
June 24th, 2009
8:39 pm
It’s about time we got a call our way…
groundfog
June 24th, 2009
8:39 pm
Sutcliffe, yes they miss them by that much. did you see the braves/Red Sox game? lol
Brooklyn Braves Brawler
June 24th, 2009
8:39 pm
He was safe! Finally a call in our favor!
McFann :Ô:
June 24th, 2009
8:39 pm
Jeff321–
Really? Hmm.
Bobby's Cox
June 24th, 2009
8:39 pm
1B umpire showing a lot of patience there. Gardner probably should have been tossed, and Welke let Girardi go a while.
I think Girardi asked to be tossed based on how his team has been playing, cuz Welke said, “Ok” then tossed him
Btw, thanks Welke for the missed call…
Mitchell
June 24th, 2009
8:39 pm
That’s what he wanted. I wanted it too.
That’s only going to help us Joe.
I wonder if anybody at ESPN will just give the Braves credit for getting the pick-off without commenting that the ump missed the call. Probably not.
AndyC
June 24th, 2009
8:39 pm
That was a really bad call! We had one coming our way after all the bad calls that have gone against us.
BravesFanChris24
June 24th, 2009
8:40 pm
There goes the no hitter. ~_~
Soph
June 24th, 2009
8:40 pm
Awwww. Dammit. Oh well, at least there was no one on.
Heath (Cleveland)
June 24th, 2009
8:40 pm
Now that pick-off is REALLY huge.
Tomahawkin
June 24th, 2009
8:40 pm
That No Name Jubroni Just Went Yard!!!
OMG…WTF!
Mitchell
June 24th, 2009
8:40 pm
Hey, the got a run. Good for them.
groundfog
June 24th, 2009
8:40 pm
well, it’s only 1-1 whew!
FEAR
June 24th, 2009
8:40 pm
WOW! We caught a HUGE break……..
Brooklyn Braves Brawler
June 24th, 2009
8:40 pm
Wow, I guess Joe Girardi knew what he was doing!
Pennski
June 24th, 2009
8:40 pm
Paul, what part of “I am just busting your chops” do you not understand. We are all hopeful that this will propel him to where we want and need him to be, that’s part of being a fan. You seem to think that us being hopeful is the same as thinking it’s going to propel him. Big different Paul, big different.
You can take out of my comments what you want, but the reality is you taking our wishes and hopes that he turns it around from here is not us predicting he is going to. Moron
RHR
June 24th, 2009
8:40 pm
Chip almost pissed his pants he was so happy.
Mixxo
June 24th, 2009
8:40 pm
Attaboy Kris!
Fer Chrissakes!!!!!!
McFann :Ô:
June 24th, 2009
8:40 pm
Crud…
At least that guy was called out…?
rob from sc
June 24th, 2009
8:40 pm
Joba hits better than KJ
groundfog
June 24th, 2009
8:41 pm
This is a pretty exciting game.
N8
June 24th, 2009
8:41 pm
This just in: ESPN has “East-coad”( East coast veto), that call at 1B, and that solo HR is going to be considered a 2-run HR.
Nobody out.
Jeff321
June 24th, 2009
8:41 pm
I wonder if anybody at ESPN will just give the Braves credit for getting the pick-off without commenting that the ump missed the call. Probably not.
They were ripping the call and saying how a major league umpire shouldn’t miss calls like that.
Tomahawkin
June 24th, 2009
8:41 pm
What Is Up With The Mo-Hawk Trend Being Hot On the Streets Now?…Everyone Is Doing It!
RHR
June 24th, 2009
8:41 pm
OMG SHUT UP CHIP. GOD. How can he seriously be a broadcaster for the Braves? His job is to be a homer FFS.
FEAR
June 24th, 2009
8:41 pm
ESPN will now say what a genius Girardi is for getting thrown out and jacking up his players….lame
the hope of the braves nation rests in your hands mr hanson
June 24th, 2009
8:41 pm
that sucks…. really not medlen’s fault. he never thought that he would play tonight let alone play a very important part in this game against the yanks.
its a shame because kawakami is obviously made for big games like these…
Bobby's Cox
June 24th, 2009
8:41 pm
Look at all of those Braves fans cheering after the HR. I like how our fans cheer a good ballgame.
joe
June 24th, 2009
8:41 pm
WEll, maybe we can steal a win here…get some runs back!
TNScott
June 24th, 2009
8:41 pm
THANKS ANNOUNCERS FOR REMINDING US THAT IT WAS A PERFECT GAME!!!!!
rob from sc
June 24th, 2009
8:41 pm
Cervelli celebrated too much. Just run the bases kid. When Schafer hit his first he wasn’t pointing at everyone. Plunk his ass next time.
Pennski
June 24th, 2009
8:41 pm
I meant to say difference for those reading…
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
8:41 pm
Medlen settle down, its tied we need you
Soph
June 24th, 2009
8:42 pm
The Sunday MLB on TBS broadcasts are getting to him now.
CorkylikesBeer
June 24th, 2009
8:42 pm
Where is Jeff Bennett when we need him..Medlen is running out of gas
AMG
June 24th, 2009
8:42 pm
2nd time thourgh the order . . .
the hope of the braves nation rests in your hands mr hanson
June 24th, 2009
8:42 pm
chip carrey could care less about the braves.
he loves the cubs, sox, and yanks…..and not necessarily in that order.
TNScott
June 24th, 2009
8:42 pm
Time to get the pen up.
rob from sc
June 24th, 2009
8:42 pm
Was ESPN bitching when Jeter wasn’t called out on strikes last night
Couch Tater
June 24th, 2009
8:42 pm
Girardi just wanted to sit in the a/c.
Tomahawkin
June 24th, 2009
8:42 pm
I bet R. SuckCliffe Is Getting a Stiffy watching this, and at his age he can’t afford to waste them…
Jeff321
June 24th, 2009
8:42 pm
Maybe Medlen is getting tired. Shouldn’t Cox have someone up in the bullpen? We can’t exactly leave him in there to give up the GO AHEAD RUN??
RHR
June 24th, 2009
8:42 pm
Chipper? Mac? Somebody go settle Medlen down? This is where he gets nervous.
Jake W.
June 24th, 2009
8:43 pm
Yanks got robbed according to the ESPN announcers. That game in New York where we were on the bad side of a call, it was a great Mets Comeback. I can see it on sportscenter now where they keep replaying it while I don’t think I saw one replay on our bad call in New York. Gotta love it.
Lets go Medlen, settle down and get out of this ending.
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
8:43 pm
dip into that pen
Brooklyn Braves Brawler
June 24th, 2009
8:43 pm
The Yankee fans are just so annoying at the park! At least Mets fans know their team sux, Yankee fans think their team is freaking fantastic.
groundfog
June 24th, 2009
8:43 pm
Fear you are exactly right. Sutcliffe basically gave Girardi credit for the homerun lol
the hope of the braves nation rests in your hands mr hanson
June 24th, 2009
8:43 pm
im sorry for making another post back to back about chip carrey but i really hate that douchebag. is this the best we can get?
AMG
June 24th, 2009
8:43 pm
Could have been a two run homer but was not. Worry about winning the game now.
cricket
June 24th, 2009
8:43 pm
Announcers are really sucking up to yanks catcher. If Esco had run talking like this guy, they and half the bloggers here would be ripping his as$.
N8
June 24th, 2009
8:44 pm
“Cervelli celebrated too much. Just run the bases kid.”
Yeah, but sadly enough he circled the bases on a HR faster than most Braves do when they are trying to “hustle”.
Paul Lentz
June 24th, 2009
8:44 pm
Look at how easy it is to hit a homer. This good glove, no hitting catcher just hit his FIRST career homer. This guy hit a hanger as well.
That is why I kept preaching about Francoeur inability to hit the hangers. Even average MLB hitters can hit a hanger out if given an opportunity.
What separates the good hitters from the BUMS is that the good hitters will go through stretches where they hit EVERY hanger they see.
Dont get me wrong, I was glad to see Francoeur hit the homer because I want to see the Braves WIN. I just dont see him hitting homers with any consistency.
Jeff321
June 24th, 2009
8:44 pm
Ah, Bennett & EOF up in the pen. But, will Cox yank him in time? Its already 1st&3rd..
Pennski
June 24th, 2009
8:44 pm
oh geez… here we go
Soph
June 24th, 2009
8:44 pm
Come on Med. Finish the inning!
David O'Brien
June 24th, 2009
8:44 pm
Moylan and Gonzalez have both pitched in three straight games, so I’d doubt you will see either tonight.
Soriano has pitched in the past two games.
Mixxo
June 24th, 2009
8:44 pm
Flood gates are open.
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
8:44 pm
Jeff321
He was a starter in AAA. I doubt it
Tomahawkin
June 24th, 2009
8:44 pm
Are The Braves The Only Team That doesn’t Go 1st-To-3rd…?
Medlen About to get Slapped!
groundfog
June 24th, 2009
8:44 pm
Now Chip giving Girardi credit for the hits. As if him getting thrown out caused the hits, i’m gonna hurl.
Heath (Cleveland)
June 24th, 2009
8:45 pm
Yep….Sutcliffe did exactly that groundfog.
Pennski
June 24th, 2009
8:45 pm
Good for you Paul, good for you. All I’m saying is that you are putting words in to all of our mouths by us saying that we hope it’s going to lead to where we want and you antagonize everyone. It’s morons like you that should be banned on this board.
Mitchell
June 24th, 2009
8:45 pm
I like it. They finally have something to cheer about. Good for them.
Joe, for crying out loud, there were two outs. Corky Miller would have gotten to third on that ball.
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
8:45 pm
As long as we dont bring in Bennet, we are good
Tomahawkin
June 24th, 2009
8:45 pm
Can We Get Jeter To come Coach The Braves on Fundamentals?
Bobby's Cox
June 24th, 2009
8:45 pm
dangerous 1st pitch to Tex…
AndyC
June 24th, 2009
8:45 pm
Tomahawkin
LOL.
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
8:46 pm
would you either pitch to arod or tex
FEAR
June 24th, 2009
8:46 pm
medlen is losing it
David O'Brien
June 24th, 2009
8:46 pm
You guys do realize that was Cervelli’s first career homer? So if he didn’t act like he’d been there before, probably because he hadn’t been.
Pennski
June 24th, 2009
8:46 pm
throw a strike medlen. come on kid
CorkylikesBeer
June 24th, 2009
8:47 pm
Medlen is having his usual mental breakdown
Heath (Cleveland)
June 24th, 2009
8:47 pm
Not unhappy about a walk to Tex to face ARod there.
Pennski
June 24th, 2009
8:47 pm
oh god…
JJ (WTH is Jeff Bennett still on the roster???)
June 24th, 2009
8:47 pm
NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tomahawkin
June 24th, 2009
8:48 pm
Meds
Come On…I’m Blowing In a Bag Right Now…!
I’m having a Todd Helton Flashback of that Colorado Game…
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
8:48 pm
Jeff Bennet in the game
FEAR
June 24th, 2009
8:48 pm
bennett…………………….. ring up TAPS on the sound system
RHR
June 24th, 2009
8:48 pm
Oh yay! Jeff Bennett!
Well, we’ll get ‘em tomorrow.
bravos2249
June 24th, 2009
8:48 pm
Whether or not that’s your first homer….that’s what gets people hit and starts fights….will anyone of our pitchers hit them..no cause they are wimps!!!!
bravesgirlnc
June 24th, 2009
8:48 pm
Bennett coming in to give up the Grand Slam to Afraud
groundfog
June 24th, 2009
8:48 pm
Well, it was a good night.Arod is going to jack one here I bet.
bravefaninok
June 24th, 2009
8:48 pm
here comes jeff b………..
Chop It Up All-star
June 24th, 2009
8:48 pm
Bennett?! Oh no, I feel a grand slam coming on.
Mitchell
June 24th, 2009
8:48 pm
Uh oh.
David O'Brien
June 24th, 2009
8:48 pm
Don’t worry, Med, kid, we’ve got Bennett coming in to clean up the mess.
On second thought….
the hope of the braves nation rests in your hands mr hanson
June 24th, 2009
8:48 pm
im glad he walked him…. i dont care if arod does hit a grand slam. we needed a pitching change and if medlen would have thrown one down the middle tex would have hit it over the right field wall.
but here comes bennett. i might have spoken too soon. arod might hit one over the left field wall instead.
Pickin' Daisies
June 24th, 2009
8:48 pm
Did you hear Joe – They’re gonna bring in another righty………ooooo &$#@ it’s Bennett
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
8:48 pm
Bennet dont blow it
J-MAN
June 24th, 2009
8:49 pm
Jeff Bennett, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo!!!!!!!!
N8
June 24th, 2009
8:49 pm
“Sutcliffe basically gave Girardi credit for the homerun…”
Which he has done MANY times when Bobby gets ejected “firing up” or protecting his players from getting ejected.
Did you guys ever watch ESPN’s coverage of the Braves during the 14 year run? Especially Sutcliffe?
We’re under .500.
On a side note: ARE YOU F***ING KIDDING ME??? Jeff Bennett with the bases loaded?
How about you guys bitch about your senile manager, rather than what the hacks at ESPN have to say about a blatently obvious blown call?
FloridaBrave
June 24th, 2009
8:49 pm
Interesting perspective from a scout on the Braves’ Hanson: “I like him. I don’t love him. His arm action is not going to work for very long. He’s a short-armer, a dart thrower. And he’s stiff-wristed. Watch his curveball. He really has to work to snap it. They will get two to three good years out of him right away. Then he might have some problems.”
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/9727242/Lee-may-cost-too-much-for-Dodgers
Paul Lentz
June 24th, 2009
8:49 pm
Freaking Bennett, lol. Why with the bases loaded does Bobby bring this BUM in? I’d rather see Acosta. Bennet, lol. What a joke.
Many when Bobby believes in you, you have to screw up really bad to be benched.
bravos2249
June 24th, 2009
8:49 pm
Ummm has Acosta died or something? I mean seriously!!!!!!
Brooklyn Braves Brawler
June 24th, 2009
8:49 pm
Jeff Bennett-Oy!
bigmacattack
June 24th, 2009
8:49 pm
The Braves long inning relief pitcher can’t even make it 3 innings.
Bennett in.
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
8:49 pm
I would like moylan for this 1 out
J williams
June 24th, 2009
8:49 pm
Let’s see if Bennett is ready to take the next step and become one of the guys that Cox can depen on.
Epinephrine
June 24th, 2009
8:49 pm
Here we go
JJ (WTH is Jeff Bennett still on the roster???)
June 24th, 2009
8:49 pm
For the love of all thing pure and holy………..DO NOT LET BENNETT PITCH!!!!!!
Salty Dawg
June 24th, 2009
8:50 pm
“A-Rod has hit eight of his nine homers at Yankee Stadium. Jeter has hit seven of his nine homers there, Damon has hit 10 of his 14 there, and Teixeira’s has hit 13 of his 20 homers there.”
I don’t understand why mlb would let them build a stadium that is clearly designed to boost offensive numbers. Hmmm…A-Fraud is projected to make a run for the HR record and now he gets an artificial boost by playing in a stadium designed to be a launching pad. How is that in any different from players using steroids as far as the integrity of records are concerned?
Brooklyn Braves Brawler
June 24th, 2009
8:50 pm
JJ the Peachtree pitchman needs gym membership. That guy is huge!
RHR
June 24th, 2009
8:50 pm
I love Gonzo.
Bobby Cox Hat Tipping Club
June 24th, 2009
8:50 pm
This is a script in the making. A-Rod slumping. Yankees stinking. Ump misses call. Girardi tossed. Backup catcher homers to tie game and fire team up. Slumping A-Rod to the plate with the sacks loaded. Does he break out with a monster slam?
Geez, like the ‘96 World Series lol
Tomahawkin
June 24th, 2009
8:50 pm
Here We Go Fellas…!
Bennett Will Get Through This, “Bank On It!”
rob from sc
June 24th, 2009
8:50 pm
Medlen needs to learn some composure from his roomate
Steve from OH
June 24th, 2009
8:50 pm
FloridaBrave:
http://www.drivelinemechanics.com/2008/12/12/690731/pitching-mechanics-tommy-h
Chop It Up All-star
June 24th, 2009
8:50 pm
This is not good.
Heath (Cleveland)
June 24th, 2009
8:51 pm
First two from Bennett looked pretty good to me.
RHR
June 24th, 2009
8:51 pm
LOL bravos2249.
FEAR
June 24th, 2009
8:51 pm
strike him out!!!!!!!!
Pennski
June 24th, 2009
8:51 pm
oh wow… so close
groundfog
June 24th, 2009
8:51 pm
Wow wish I was there!
JJ (WTH is Jeff Bennett still on the roster???)
June 24th, 2009
8:51 pm
I’m scared…..so very scared………
bravos2249
June 24th, 2009
8:51 pm
Pickin’ Daisies
lol!!!
rob from sc
June 24th, 2009
8:51 pm
Bobby Cox has balls
Brooklyn Braves Brawler
June 24th, 2009
8:51 pm
0-2 on A-Roid!
Couch Tater
June 24th, 2009
8:51 pm
Throw the heat meat.
the hope of the braves nation rests in your hands mr hanson
June 24th, 2009
8:51 pm
wish mac could have held on to that one…..tough play though.
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
8:51 pm
If this was “aroid” he would have not missed those
Mitchell
June 24th, 2009
8:51 pm
I fear nothing. Bennett will get him. I just hope to hell he doesn’t walk him.
OH COME ON! That was strike three.
rob from sc
June 24th, 2009
8:51 pm
I am scared too
rob from sc
June 24th, 2009
8:52 pm
Enter your comments hereWHF did McCann call for a slider
groundfog
June 24th, 2009
8:52 pm
damn right down the middle
FEAR
June 24th, 2009
8:52 pm
figures…………….coulda been worse
Pennski
June 24th, 2009
8:52 pm
awful. Should have kept throwing the heat. Joe is right
bravos2249
June 24th, 2009
8:52 pm
HE can’t hit a damn fastball and he throws a slider!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
the hope of the braves nation rests in your hands mr hanson
June 24th, 2009
8:52 pm
right down the middle on an 0-2 count.
Tomahawkin
June 24th, 2009
8:52 pm
Get Rid Of Bennett NOW!!!
That was Way-Too Good a Pitch!!!
beachcomber
June 24th, 2009
8:52 pm
Over/under on how many more times the ex Marlins announcer doing the ESPN game is going to whine about the play at first?
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
8:52 pm
good job Bennet
you had 2 strikes on him
Heath (Cleveland)
June 24th, 2009
8:52 pm
It’s early, but should have brought in Moylan on that one.
Mitchell
June 24th, 2009
8:52 pm
We had him.
Come on Jeff. That was terrible.
N8
June 24th, 2009
8:52 pm
Un-F***ing-believable.
RHR
June 24th, 2009
8:52 pm
Let’s see if Bennett is ready to take the next step and become one of the guys that Cox can depen on.
The answer is no. The answer was no yesterday. The answer was no last week. The answer will be no tomorrow.
JJ (WTH is Jeff Bennett still on the roster???)
June 24th, 2009
8:52 pm
SON OF A FREAKING B!TCH…..WHY THE HELL IS JEFF FREAKING BENNETT ON THIS TEAM????????????
bravesgirlnc
June 24th, 2009
8:52 pm
Oh Sh!t. Who would have thunk it?
Jake W.
June 24th, 2009
8:52 pm
Bad pitch selection
Brooklyn Braves Brawler
June 24th, 2009
8:52 pm
He can’t hit a fastball and he throws him a slider. Geez!
Bobby's Cox
June 24th, 2009
8:52 pm
Does Bennett have another pitch besides a fastball?
Pennski
June 24th, 2009
8:52 pm
no, that was a fastball, just too hittable. Should have been at his eyes
BravesFanChris24
June 24th, 2009
8:52 pm
Well, maybe a comeback win can happen
Mixxo
June 24th, 2009
8:52 pm
Bennett was dishing up cheese before he grooved one!
WTF?!?
TNScott
June 24th, 2009
8:52 pm
Bennett does it again!!!!
CorkylikesBeer
June 24th, 2009
8:52 pm
Arod..breaks out of his slump now…have to tip your cap to the other team..they wanted it more
FloridaBrave
June 24th, 2009
8:53 pm
Typical Bennett.
K Johnson
June 24th, 2009
8:53 pm
CHEATER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bobby Cox Hat Tipping Club
June 24th, 2009
8:53 pm
Wow! Could not have thrown that ball any more down the middle of the plate than if he put it on a tee! lol
fnnn bennett
June 24th, 2009
8:53 pm
Enter your comments here
who knew
June 24th, 2009
8:53 pm
0 and 2, base hit… who woulda thought that possible, that’s our bennett… yeah boy…
David O'Brien
June 24th, 2009
8:53 pm
That’s seven of 18 inherited runners who’ve scored against Bennett
K Johnson
June 24th, 2009
8:53 pm
ROID HEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
RLPmetro
June 24th, 2009
8:53 pm
how the hell do you groove a pitch on an 0-2 count??? Throw one in the dirt for good measure, at least! Come on!
bigmacattack
June 24th, 2009
8:53 pm
went from a perfect game to a losing game real quickly
Steve from OH
June 24th, 2009
8:53 pm
Most pitchers don’t throw 96 mph sliders, guys…
J-MAN
June 24th, 2009
8:53 pm
????? your up 0-2 and you throw one right down the middle of the plate?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? Why did you put in Cox and why is he even in the Majors??????????????
J williams
June 24th, 2009
8:53 pm
With two strikes on A_Rod, why would Bennett keep coming right over the plate?
JJ (WTH is Jeff Bennett still on the roster???)
June 24th, 2009
8:53 pm
Freaking loser!!!
bravos2249
June 24th, 2009
8:53 pm
Pennski
That was not a fastball
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
8:53 pm
0-2 cmon
Rodney Derrick
June 24th, 2009
8:53 pm
Bennett has a great ERA. Unfortunately, those he relieves do not.
Turtsnap
June 24th, 2009
8:53 pm
Bobby’s man crush on Jeff Bennett continues!!
David O'Brien
June 24th, 2009
8:53 pm
A-Rod had been 1-for-8 with bases loaded before that
Lash La Rue
June 24th, 2009
8:54 pm
another great move by Cox for u Cox lovers.
Heath (Cleveland)
June 24th, 2009
8:54 pm
ESPN still attributing all this from Girardi arguing. Ugh.
who knew
June 24th, 2009
8:54 pm
yeah, this is all because he got tossed… freaking morons in the booth
BravesFanChris24
June 24th, 2009
8:54 pm
Game still in reach.
Jake W.
June 24th, 2009
8:54 pm
It would be nice if the offense can pick up the pitching for once.
J williams
June 24th, 2009
8:54 pm
And Cox acted like he was surprised when A_Rod got the hit!
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
8:54 pm
Where the hell is ACOSTA
TNScott
June 24th, 2009
8:55 pm
When will Bobby learn!!!! He’s come in these situations before and has done the same thing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bobby's Cox
June 24th, 2009
8:55 pm
I don’t know what that was…ESPN keeps saying “He finally caught up to the fastball”….it was straight as hell…I don’t see how it was a slider, but he should’ve thrown in the dirt at least twice. Didn’t throw A-Rod anything but fastballs. Terrible.
cabravesfan
June 24th, 2009
8:55 pm
I love Gonzo.
RHR-
Do I have to comment?
Brooklyn Braves Brawler
June 24th, 2009
8:55 pm
If KK was still in, we’d still be winning
DAM
June 24th, 2009
8:55 pm
That was a good idea. Take out Medlen to bring in Bennett. Yet again, Bennett’s ERA goes nowhere, but he allows more runners to score.
Sigh.
FloridaBrave
June 24th, 2009
8:55 pm
Bennett makes everyone else’s ERA look like garbage while his stays respectable enought to apparently keep him on the roster.
CorkylikesBeer
June 24th, 2009
8:55 pm
I guess everyone still loves Medlen…he is a nut case
Chop It Up All-star
June 24th, 2009
8:55 pm
Why is Bennett still on this team? And why does Bobby insist on bringing him in when the game is in the balance…dammit!!
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
8:55 pm
BLAME THE BRAVES OFFENSE
Heath (Cleveland)
June 24th, 2009
8:55 pm
Oh…and lest we forget Sutcliffe saying how brilliant it was that Cox had given three different pitchers for ARod to face….like he planned it that way. How do they get away with this crap?
Paul Lentz
June 24th, 2009
8:55 pm
0-2 fastball right down the middle. Unreal.
Just saw another replay. Freaking fastball down the middle on an 0-2 pitch. MORON.
That’s the ballgame there.
That is a classic example of why Bennett’s 3.13 ERA is misleading. Dude has allowed so many “inherited” runners to score. He wont get credited with those 2 runn (Medlen will).
Bennett is the ABSOLUTE WRONG GUY to bring into the game with runners on base. Dude has allowed 66 base runners in 33 innings pitched.
DAMN.
Pennski
June 24th, 2009
8:55 pm
Bravos: yes it was, how else did it go straight and 95mph???
McFann :Ô:
June 24th, 2009
8:55 pm
Dangit.
Jeff321
June 24th, 2009
8:56 pm
Jeff Bennett is nothing but a charity case. He occupies a spot on this roster because Cox considers him one of his BOYS. Ya know, guys with no business on a ML roster but get trotted out in tight situations. Sheesh
I’m out, later.
bravos2249
June 24th, 2009
8:56 pm
Okay we throw 23 scoreless innings…..you expect Medlen to give up something because he hasn’t pitched in 10 days….but when you get used as much as Bennett you need to learn how to effin pitch.
They need to make Medlen the MR guy and Bennett the long relief…and ship him out when Buddy comes back…..I rather not see Bennett for 10 days than Medlen!!!!!!!!!!
RHR
June 24th, 2009
8:56 pm
I pin this one on Joba’s fat ass for taking out our starter, DOB and Chip for jinxing what was a well pitched game up until the 6th, and whoever is in charge of Jeff Bennett having a job that doesn’t require him to say “do you want fries with that?”
JJ (WTH is Jeff Bennett still on the roster???)
June 24th, 2009
8:56 pm
And the ole senile HOFer is out of his freaking mind. Why the hell waste guys like Moylan, Soriano, and Gonzo in games that are 7-2 and then pitch freaking loser give-up-a-run-every-pitch Jeff Bennett??????
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
8:56 pm
Watch Bennet is going to go out for the next inning.
LT-A blogger
June 24th, 2009
8:56 pm
I really don’t understand. They have been seeing the same thing from Bennett time after time. I really do not understand.
Mitchell
June 24th, 2009
8:56 pm
I thought we were going to get out of that.
It’s only three runs for crying out loud.
It’s all because of KK. This game would probably be over by now. They get lucky but SportsCenter won’t bother mentioning that they finally scored after he left the game.
Medlen’s still a rookie. What are you gunna do?
Let’s go Braves.
Pickin' Daisies
June 24th, 2009
8:56 pm
Bennett has single handly killed what ever mojo we’ve got going over the past week. Take that joker and set his butt out on the TECH campus tonight. Within any luck the A T L’s finest will handle him!!!
groundfog
June 24th, 2009
8:56 pm
1 run is not going to cut it anyway. We need 4 runs a night. Offense is the reason we are losing not the pitching
Joebrave
June 24th, 2009
8:56 pm
And Bobby Cox is due for his Meds, ey Boob, it’s lights out at the Nursing Home, You Muleheaded OLd Fart
Brooklyn Braves Brawler
June 24th, 2009
8:56 pm
He threw a alider that did not slide. No movement no break. Was pretty straight! No heat on that pitch what so ever.
cabravesfan
June 24th, 2009
8:57 pm
RHR-
Bennett at a fast food place? Ummm, maybe not the best idea…
Soph
June 24th, 2009
8:57 pm
Let’s get some runs.
a643dp
June 24th, 2009
8:57 pm
If you read Arods lips he tells pena “I cant believe they brought that guy in”
Pennski
June 24th, 2009
8:57 pm
Bravos2249: did you see my post? You didn’t admit you were wrong yet, so I was just wondering
Steve from OH
June 24th, 2009
8:57 pm
And another one from a different school of thought on mechanics:
http://www.baseball-intellect.com/scouting-tommy-hanson/
J-MAN
June 24th, 2009
8:57 pm
Dont defend Jeff Bennett, D.O.B. I love ya but please dont
Tomahawkin
June 24th, 2009
8:57 pm
BravesFanChris…
The Game Is Till In Reach…Too Bad It feels like 6-1 game instead of 3-1
Offense is still too inconsistant…
Jake W.
June 24th, 2009
8:57 pm
But congrats to the Yankees on doing something special. They knock out our starting pitcher(literally) and pick on the bottom half of our bullpen. They are so great. I learn something new everyday when I watch tem play.
groundfog
June 24th, 2009
8:57 pm
I’m starting to really like the Red Sox again. I hate these b@stards
FEAR
June 24th, 2009
8:57 pm
score some runs damn it
N8
June 24th, 2009
8:57 pm
“Bobby Cox has balls”
And apparently Jeff Bennett has a photo of them he’s threatening to post on the internet.
Because blackmale is the ONLY reason that he should be on this 25 man roster.
There’s an old saying. Momentum is only as good as your next starting pitcher.
There’s another saying. Your team is only as strong as your weakest link. Which is true. But MOST managers of MLB teams ‘hide’ that weakest link as the 12th guy out of the bullpen or 13th guy on the bench.
Not Bobby Cox. Nope. He brings that weak link in to hang an 0-2 slider to Arod with the bases loaded.
It’s unfortunate that KK got hurt, because he was on a roll. But if the Braves lose. It’s SQUARELY on Bobby’s shoulders. Period.
And they can thank the umpire at 1B that the lead isn’t bigger.
J williams
June 24th, 2009
8:57 pm
Do you think Cox knows that Bennett allows inherited runners to score at the clip that DOB just gave us…yet, he still puts him in situations to fail.
Pickin' Daisies
June 24th, 2009
8:57 pm
Was Boyer as bad as Bennett???? I can’t remeber….
Soph
June 24th, 2009
8:58 pm
Yeah, come on big guy!
bravos2249
June 24th, 2009
8:58 pm
Bennett should be DFA….I rather see Glavine/Jojo/hell even CHuck James in the BP
Unknown
June 24th, 2009
8:58 pm
I hate Jeff Bennett, has this guy ever not blown a game? The game is over, Braves can’t score.
RHR
June 24th, 2009
8:58 pm
Hit Chipper, Joba, I freakin dare you.
WestPalmDawg
June 24th, 2009
8:58 pm
Why is there such an emphasis on velocity these days? If you throw 95 pmh, it doesn’t mean $#!) anymore.
Who wants to bet Bennett is DFA after the game?
BravesFanChris24
June 24th, 2009
8:58 pm
Chipper
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
8:58 pm
good hit chip
Bobby Cox Hat Tipping Club
June 24th, 2009
8:58 pm
Folks, it was a fastball. A very badly located fastball. It was belt high and caught the middle of the plate. You should know better than to listen to Chip on ANYTHING!
bravos2249
June 24th, 2009
8:58 pm
Pickin’ Daisies
They were both bad…..they both sucked and if Boyer left then Bennett should too
Paul Lentz
June 24th, 2009
8:59 pm
Nice job of hitting there Chipper. Went with the pitch.
G thebrave3
June 24th, 2009
8:59 pm
I found only way to watch the braves on espn is to mute the TV.
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
8:59 pm
Mcann show everyone why you are an allstar
Soph
June 24th, 2009
8:59 pm
Yeah, I would say Boyer and Bennett both suck equally.
bravos2249
June 24th, 2009
8:59 pm
I don’t care what Mac hits…just keep getting them on and continue the inning
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
8:59 pm
Missed it
rob from sc
June 24th, 2009
9:00 pm
First off to the Hall of Fame Manager of ours. Use Moylan, why get beat with your 5th best reliever. And Acosta is better than Bennett.
Second Braves front office. send Medlen and Reyes to a confidence building class. Medlen was cruising. 2 outs, gives up a HR and it all falls apart. Get tougher
Brooklyn Braves Brawler
June 24th, 2009
9:00 pm
This game is going to come down to the wire, I gotta feeling
Soph
June 24th, 2009
9:00 pm
Ugh…not pretty.
J-MAN
June 24th, 2009
9:00 pm
Dang I hate this
WestPalmDawg
June 24th, 2009
9:00 pm
Who was worse?
Jeff Bennett
Macay McBride
Blaine Boyer
Unknown
June 24th, 2009
9:00 pm
Medlens ERA is 6.38 now. Am I missing something about this guy? Trade him.
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
9:00 pm
His breaking ball is killing us
FEAR
June 24th, 2009
9:00 pm
damn bmac
J williams
June 24th, 2009
9:00 pm
Medlen’s oing to have to be able to stretch it out a little longer. The Yanks went from sleepwalking to their old form in a matter of a few pitches.
Pennski
June 24th, 2009
9:01 pm
Bravos2249: It was a fastball, it went straight and 95mph. just wanted to tell you again
Mitchell
June 24th, 2009
9:01 pm
Great work Braves.
Lash La Rue
June 24th, 2009
9:01 pm
Chip said it was a change up down the middle after 2 -90 plus fastballs,what was he thinking. Joe agrees with alot more to say.
dwaynerice
June 24th, 2009
9:01 pm
All agreed about what’s been said about Bennett, he needs to be cut after the game, if not sooner…now, it is time for a comeback, no more tucking our tail between our legs after Bennett’s numbskull pitching. Pitching IQ must be quite low
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
9:01 pm
Westpalmdog
Dan Kolb
groundfog
June 24th, 2009
9:01 pm
This offense is piss poor. You would think Gerg Maddux is friggin pitching in his prime tonight.
Pickin' Daisies
June 24th, 2009
9:01 pm
bravos2249
I’am with you 110 on that. Nobody deserves the opp.’s Bennett has gotten. Hopefully he’s released by the end of the game.
Tomahawkin
June 24th, 2009
9:01 pm
I’m Calling it, That’s the Ball-Game Folks…
Joba Is Another Level when He’s Facing Our AWFense
rob from sc
June 24th, 2009
9:01 pm
I am all for trading Medlen. He has a mental breakdown everytime he gets in trouble. Just like Reyes and Morton.
Brooklyn Braves Brawler
June 24th, 2009
9:01 pm
We need to get 2 before Mo Rivera get warm or its curtians tonight!
Bobby Cox Hat Tipping Club
June 24th, 2009
9:01 pm
Chamberlin is McCann’s daddy. Not many pitchers are McCann’s daddy, but looks like Jaba is.
Mixxo
June 24th, 2009
9:02 pm
Not too good Mac. Nope ….not good.
Ballgame folks.
THWG
June 24th, 2009
9:02 pm
I hate ESPN.
McFann :Ô:
June 24th, 2009
9:02 pm
WHY ARE YOU STRIKING OUT SO FREAKING MUCH THIS MONTH??? That’s 12 already and you had 12 coming into June!! Dangit!!
Heath (Cleveland)
June 24th, 2009
9:02 pm
Medlen must has a mental problem. He was going along just fine until that HR. It’s almost like he’s just waiting around for the other shoe to drop, so to speak, when someone gets to him.
TNScott
June 24th, 2009
9:02 pm
I’ve seen all the 0-2 pitch hits I need to for this decade in this season!!!!!!!!!
J williams
June 24th, 2009
9:02 pm
The Yanks just snatched the momentum from the Braves. Maybe Cox should come out and throw a hissy-fit, and see if the Braves can snatch it back.
Paul Lentz
June 24th, 2009
9:02 pm
I rewound it 5 times to make sure. It was a FREAKING FASTBALL down the middle of the plate. If A-Rod wasnt in a slump, he would have hit that baby for a grand slam.
In a way, I guess that we are lucky that he only got a 2-run single. there. Should have been a grand slam.
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
9:03 pm
Dwaynerice
That is what cox problem is he sticks with the players too long. If i was cox i would have prado instead of Johnson. Atleast prado is not an automatic out. Bennet the same problem.
JJ (WTH is Jeff Bennett still on the roster???)
June 24th, 2009
9:03 pm
I swear it’s like the HOFer doesn’t even try to win these damn games. How many freaking times can you go to Jeff Bennett in a big situation with the game on the line, have him blow it every freaking time, and then…..in a move of pure genious, decide it’s a good idea to GO TO HIM AGAIN?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
Someone, ANYONE, please explain this to me!!!!!!!!
N8
June 24th, 2009
9:03 pm
Slider, fastball, split-finger, spit-ball. WHATEVER the hell it was, it was too “good” of a pitch on an 0-2 count.
Jeff Bennett is the Mark Teixeira of pitchers. He racks up decent stats when it doesn’t matter, but when you need him to actually come through in a big spot, forget about it. Not gonna happen.
RHR
June 24th, 2009
9:03 pm
Who wants to bet Bennett is DFA after the game?
Uh is today your first day as a Braves fan? DFA? Pahahhahaha hell, he’ll probably pitch again tomorrow night.
Unknown
June 24th, 2009
9:03 pm
We need hitters in the worst way. This offense is one of the worst. We need to face someone like Dice-K or Wang to actually score runs.
joe
June 24th, 2009
9:03 pm
cmon guys, let’s regroup…….
i really dont understand bringing bennett in there. i really don’t.
Pennski
June 24th, 2009
9:03 pm
See Bravos2249, even Paul Lentz agrees w/ me. it was a fastball…
Mitchell
June 24th, 2009
9:03 pm
We’d be well on our way to a win with KK.
Yankees get all the breaks. What else is new.
We seriously cannot lose 3-1 because of Bennett. That just wasn’t even fair.
He’s still pitching are you ****ing kidding me!?!?!?!?!?
What the ****!?!
rob from sc
June 24th, 2009
9:03 pm
Pickin’ Daisies
Bennett, like Francoeur and Johnson are Bobby’s boys. He protects his favorites. Bennett will be right back out there to blow the game. He doesn’t forgive Acosta for struggling because he pitched everyday. Cox can’t manage a bullpen
ESPN
June 24th, 2009
9:04 pm
I hate THWG.
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
9:04 pm
Swisher
Unknown
June 24th, 2009
9:04 pm
Get Bennett out and DFA his @ss!
Soph
June 24th, 2009
9:04 pm
Are you serious? He’s still out there?
rob from sc
June 24th, 2009
9:04 pm
Our manager is a F****** IDIOT
Pickin' Daisies
June 24th, 2009
9:04 pm
It’s really laughable at this point
bravesgirlnc
June 24th, 2009
9:04 pm
haha. It is just funny now.
RHR
June 24th, 2009
9:04 pm
Jeff Bennett for MVP!
BravesFanChris24
June 24th, 2009
9:04 pm
That’d be it
FEAR
June 24th, 2009
9:04 pm
bring me the head of jeff bennett
Chop It Up All-star
June 24th, 2009
9:04 pm
How much do we need to see with this guy? Man!!
Heath (Cleveland)
June 24th, 2009
9:04 pm
Yeah Bobby, obviously it is Bennett’s night. Leave him in there to give up some more.
Mixxo
June 24th, 2009
9:04 pm
Ballgame.
Brooklyn Braves Brawler
June 24th, 2009
9:04 pm
I don’t think Medlen is a bad picher, I just think Jo-Jo has more talent.
J. Bennett is meat, he is a shot horse.
N8
June 24th, 2009
9:04 pm
I’m out. Cox has lost it. No sense watching. Game over.
JJ (WTH is Jeff Bennett still on the roster???)
June 24th, 2009
9:04 pm
Oh…well, here’s a bright idea. Let’s run him back out there so we can get down 6-1 and then bring in Soriano for mop up duty. STUPID LITTLE PIECE OF CRAP!!!!! He did it again.
GET HIS SORRY ARSE OFF THIS DAMN TEAM!!!!!!!!!
bigmacattack
June 24th, 2009
9:04 pm
there you go bennett, up your own era instead of someone elses
David O'Brien
June 24th, 2009
9:04 pm
I don’t take back what I said about the bandbox. Homers off Medlen and Bennett don’t count.
Lash La Rue
June 24th, 2009
9:05 pm
Oh, how I love you Bobby…..get him out!!!!!!!!!!!
Mitchell
June 24th, 2009
9:05 pm
Take him out!
That just ain’t right. Too easy.
It’s not an even playing field with Bennett out there. What the **** Bobby!
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
9:05 pm
FU bennet
rob from sc
June 24th, 2009
9:05 pm
nice play Esco
TnBrian
June 24th, 2009
9:05 pm
They say players are done…can a manager be done? We have a rotten egg on the team and he sits and picks his nose in the dugout. Absolutely uncalled for bringing in your worst reliever in that spot. And he gives up another one! WOW!! Bennett, start looking for another job, because you fat boy, ain’t no pitcher.
Wren In Doubt
June 24th, 2009
9:05 pm
Are we going to learn some day that Bobby Cox bet on baseball but only on his team to win – but never on a day when he planned to use Bennett?
TNScott
June 24th, 2009
9:05 pm
Get him out!!!!!!!!! So much for us taking this series tonight.
J-MAN
June 24th, 2009
9:05 pm
Jeff Bennett is the best offensive player in the league
Doc Holiday
June 24th, 2009
9:05 pm
Bennett is not the guy to hate…………..Cox is.
Last night………..game out of reach…………he puts Soriano…………tonight game on the line, he brings bennett……………….
I mean……….you can hate bennett cause he is a loser…………but man……….you can bring a better pitcher ………..bring acosta, bring oflaherty…………if they dont respond and we fall behind…………then it is Bennetts time to play.
This guy just suck………….and excuse me for the word, I have never written that word, but there is not better time to start than tonight……………release the guy……….he is worse than Boyer…………much worse.
Paul Lentz
June 24th, 2009
9:05 pm
Another Bennett gem there. Throws 2 fastballs way off the plate. Throws another fastball close the strike zone in his wheelhouse and Swisher jacks one.
Bennett throwing nothing but hangers.
Pennski
June 24th, 2009
9:05 pm
Bennett has to be gone, Buddy is almost ready to come back am I right? Someone give me something!
Tomahawkin
June 24th, 2009
9:05 pm
Drill That Cervelli Jubroni NOW!!!
Unknown
June 24th, 2009
9:06 pm
Maybe St. Louis will take Bennett too.
Jake W.
June 24th, 2009
9:06 pm
I have to think Jeff Bennett’s days are numbered. And people ask why Bobby uses the big three so much. Not a lot of other trustworthy arms out there. That’s why we must hurry and trade Gonzo and Soriano now.
J-MAN
June 24th, 2009
9:06 pm
Lets start a get rid of Jeff Bennett petition:
#1.J-MAN
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
9:06 pm
This is where the braves offense question comes in. The yanks are only 3 runs ahead, but braves dont have comeback attitude
Bobby Cox Hat Tipping Club
June 24th, 2009
9:06 pm
So ahhhh Mr. Cox……..I noticed you sitting in the dugout shaking your head and looking surprised when Bennett let that last gopher ball go.
Why shaking the head? Why look shocked? YOU are the one who keeps deciding this guy is worthy to run out there night after night.
rob from sc
June 24th, 2009
9:06 pm
I am tired of Cox losing games the same way
Mitchell
June 24th, 2009
9:06 pm
Not fair. I’m sorry but this is a bunch of bull****.
Yeah, Joe Girardi made it happen. Give me a … break.
dwaynerice
June 24th, 2009
9:06 pm
“Oh do you know the Mop Up Man, the Mop Up Man, the Mop Up Man, oh do you know the Mop Up Man, he pitches for Bob-by’s Boys….!!!” Sack Bennett’s arse already, have mercy on us please!!
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
9:06 pm
Where is Jorge Campillo
Pickin' Daisies
June 24th, 2009
9:07 pm
Doc -
Well Put…
RHR
June 24th, 2009
9:07 pm
How close are you to Chip Caray, DOB? I’ll give you $1000 if you’ll go knock the hell out of him.
Steve from OH
June 24th, 2009
9:07 pm
Jeff Bennett is the Mark Teixeira of pitchers. He racks up decent stats when it doesn’t matter, but when you need him to actually come through in a big spot, forget about it. Not gonna happen.
I will disagree with you on this until the day I die. Tex has been very good in pretty much every situation you could ask for. His OPS is above .900 in every situation–RISP/2 outs, late&close, w/in 1,2,3,4, runs, whatever. He’s just good. This knock on him has no substance.
J-MAN
June 24th, 2009
9:07 pm
some body please hit a come backer to jeff bennett to take him out instead of
kawakami
cabravesfan
June 24th, 2009
9:07 pm
Bravesman-
Campillo is still on the DL
VENEZUELA
June 24th, 2009
9:07 pm
FCKNGGGGGGGGGGGGG Bennett is INCREDIBLE!!! he HAS Boooby’s daughter naked pic or something….
I cant believe he is still pitching in the majorS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! no team would have him…
DOOBBB u go silent! but there has to be rage against bobbys decision tonight!
Steve from OH
June 24th, 2009
9:07 pm
And that post has nothing to do with Bennett…he just…no comment.
bravos2249
June 24th, 2009
9:07 pm
When are we going to get rid of Chris Reitsma?
Soph
June 24th, 2009
9:07 pm
nana-nana, nana-nana, hey, hey, hey goodbyeeeeee.
Heath (Cleveland)
June 24th, 2009
9:08 pm
Sometimes a save comes in the middle of a game. Should have brought in someone besides Bennett in that situation. It was the 6th inning after all.
rob from sc
June 24th, 2009
9:08 pm
Doc Holiday
In all fairness Soriano was warming up before McCann’s HR made it a for run game. Relievers say if they warm up they should pitch.
FEAR
June 24th, 2009
9:08 pm
get the hook for this jack off
Unknown
June 24th, 2009
9:08 pm
Bennett and Bobby need to go.
RHR
June 24th, 2009
9:08 pm
A walk! A homer! A double! Can Bennett go for the cycle tonight? Stay tuned!
bravos2249
June 24th, 2009
9:09 pm
Joe…everyone in the BP is good but Bennett
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
9:09 pm
Bennet take that ball out of your mouth
Pennski
June 24th, 2009
9:09 pm
awful. Manny Acosta would do better than this. I would think
Tomahawkin
June 24th, 2009
9:09 pm
I normally Don’t Hate On Chip Carey But Is He calling the Game on the YES Network…?
He Sounds Like such a Yankee Homer It’s beginning to P’s Me off Maybe he needs a new contract for the YES Network or BSPN…
Stop Kissing Joba’s Ass! You Are sounding just as bad as those turds on BSPN….!
RemoW
June 24th, 2009
9:09 pm
IS Manny Acosta injured? Did Bobby ban him?
jkerr
June 24th, 2009
9:09 pm
seriously, but i dont mean to sound hateful, but DOB if you take that earlier offer i will double it. Chip, just shut up.
VENEZUELA
June 24th, 2009
9:09 pm
Enter your comments here
J williams
June 24th, 2009
9:09 pm
How can the Yank’s pitchers bunt better than the Braves’ players?
Lennie G
June 24th, 2009
9:09 pm
THIS JUST IN……….Bennett sux
Bobby Cox Hat Tipping Club
June 24th, 2009
9:09 pm
After the game, Bobby will probably say something like, ” I thought Jeff pitched well. He just threw a couple of bad pitches, that’s all. Other than that, I thought he was sharp!”
Unknown
June 24th, 2009
9:09 pm
Hopefully the Rays hang on so we will stay only 4 games out.
Jake W.
June 24th, 2009
9:09 pm
Let me get this straight. The Yankee catcher who talks all the time is good and brings life to his team and Escobar’s fire and talking seems to annoy the crap out of Bobby. Ok got it.
Soph
June 24th, 2009
9:09 pm
Haaa! RHR, I’ll throw in a few stacks too.
Heath (Cleveland)
June 24th, 2009
9:09 pm
Rays still leading, 2-1 now in the 7th.
J-MAN
June 24th, 2009
9:09 pm
Bennett needs to go away forever
rob from sc
June 24th, 2009
9:09 pm
Heath (Cleveland)
Bobby Cox only believes that saves come in the 9th. Plain and simple the game has passed him by. My wife told me last year that we will not make the playoff’s again until we get a new manager. She might be right
groundfog
June 24th, 2009
9:09 pm
Can we get Blain Boyer back?
6-4-3
June 24th, 2009
9:10 pm
What is the infatuation with Bennett?
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
9:10 pm
What is Chip carey doing wriong
bravos2249
June 24th, 2009
9:10 pm
I really am begging to wonder why Acosta’s 1.54 era is riding the pine…does Bobby not like Panamanians too?
Brooklyn Braves Brawler
June 24th, 2009
9:11 pm
When Frenchy hit that homer, the Yanks were finished. They just needed to be put out of their misery. Then we let them back in the game
RHR
June 24th, 2009
9:11 pm
What is Chip carey doing wriong
Breathing.
K Johnson
June 24th, 2009
9:11 pm
maybe if GA was on roids??
J-MAN
June 24th, 2009
9:11 pm
about an inning too late Jeff Bennett
Mitchell
June 24th, 2009
9:11 pm
Derek Jeter officially sucks. What an idiot.
PIBraves
June 24th, 2009
9:11 pm
@$#$!# You Bennett!!!!
Unknown
June 24th, 2009
9:11 pm
Weak part of the lineup coming up, not good.
CorkylikesBeer
June 24th, 2009
9:11 pm
Chamberlain looks really good out there
groundfog
June 24th, 2009
9:11 pm
Totally on Bobby tonight. No way Bennett should have been in there.
jkerr
June 24th, 2009
9:11 pm
he just keeps talking and talking and he is saying nothing
Tomahawkin
June 24th, 2009
9:11 pm
Damn I haven’t Seen Jeter Look like that in years…I wish Bennett Could’ve done that to A-Fraud/A-Roid/Gay-Rod whatever his name is!!!
J-MAN
June 24th, 2009
9:12 pm
Boy, after seeing all this mabye Jeff Bennett needs to start throwing lefty
FEAR
June 24th, 2009
9:12 pm
Is there any way DOB that you can ask Cox: Why the hell he always puts bennett in these situations when he always screws it up?
Heath (Cleveland)
June 24th, 2009
9:12 pm
I am not the manager, obviously, but I would have brought in Moylan there and brought in Acosta to pitch the 7th.
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
9:12 pm
Bennet for arods steroids
RemoW
June 24th, 2009
9:12 pm
I think a real left fielder would have caught that Swisher HR!!!!
groundfog
June 24th, 2009
9:12 pm
Either way, 1 run against this guy aint gonna cut it.
BosnianBaller
June 24th, 2009
9:12 pm
I rather see McCay McBride then Jeff Bennett in a braves uni.Thats how much Bennett sucks
wow
June 24th, 2009
9:13 pm
bravos2249
I wonder the same thing why does bennett continue to get chances and continues to fail but acosta just is used for mop up spots give someone else a chance Bobby your decisions cost us dearly dumb@$$.
Medlin Is Chuck James
June 24th, 2009
9:13 pm
Medlin is Chuck James from the right side.
Why do the Braves like these Midget pitchers who have a big heart but no size?
Big heart is usually good for a couple of innings. After that, it takes talent, stuff and confidence. And being Hanson’s size doesn’t hurt.
Steve from OH
June 24th, 2009
9:13 pm
I really am begging to wonder why Acosta’s 1.54 era is riding the pine…does Bobby not like Panamanians too?
No, I believe the only bias Bobby has on record is against those hailing from Moldavia. Fortunately for him, no one here has heard of or cares about Moldavia, so he’s gotten away with that relatively scot-free.
Rex
June 24th, 2009
9:13 pm
Why is Acosta not being used a little more? Bennett has been hit hard all year and Acosta has been pretty solid since being called back to Atlanta. You just can’t keep throwing Bennett out there with the game on the line.
bravos2249
June 24th, 2009
9:14 pm
Jake W.
I know.. that’s what I hate about frickin bias. And it’s not just the Yankees either. There are other players that act like Escobar…but they are not bashed like him…by his own Manager ( Bobby didn’t really bash per se but it wasn’t good) or TV announcers.
rob from sc
June 24th, 2009
9:14 pm
Bobby Cox wants the first draft pick, that is why Bennett keeps pitching
never going to win
June 24th, 2009
9:14 pm
Atlanta is the launching pad for slumping teams. Bunch of sorry sacs. They lose 7 of the next games I guarantee. Selling by the end of June. Oh this team is so close to breaking through, playting really well. Nope, same sh :t different day.
Heath (Cleveland)
June 24th, 2009
9:14 pm
FEAR
I would love DOB to ask Bobby that question exactly like that too. “Bobby, why the hell do you continuously bring in Bennett in those situations when he fails more often than not?”
he he
Would LOVE to hear the question….see the look on Cox’s face, and then here his responce.
Brooklyn Braves Brawler
June 24th, 2009
9:14 pm
For the love Gene Garber and Juan Berenguer. The last truly great Braves relievers!
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
9:14 pm
Kotchman come on
JJ (WTH is Jeff Bennett still on the roster???)
June 24th, 2009
9:14 pm
I can’t figure out if I’m more pissed at Jeff Bennett or the washed up HOFer. On the one hand, Jeff Bennett is a scrub pitcher that couldn’t get a one-armed blind man out. But it ain’t his fault the HOFer keeps telling him to go out there.
I mean, I guess he’s doing all he can. He just sux and is limited by his incredible inability to pitch. The ole HOFer, however, keeps trotting him out there like he’s freaking mariano rivera. That pisses me off.
don't mention that cox sucks, because everyone loves him
June 24th, 2009
9:14 pm
Who wrote that puff piece on Cox today? Hack. The Rockies also had a manager everyone loved, and they’re much better since he was fired.
Heath (Cleveland)
June 24th, 2009
9:14 pm
*response
TnBrian
June 24th, 2009
9:14 pm
If the Yankees have heated up here, I’m not feeling good about Lowe tomorrow. He hasn’t looked good at all lately and Pettite has always pitched well against Atl, age be damned.
Hey, Bennett is the barber on the team, right? There you go Jeff.
BravesFanChris24
June 24th, 2009
9:15 pm
Kotchman!
Let’s go offense.
Mixxo
June 24th, 2009
9:15 pm
Attaway Casey!
Unknown
June 24th, 2009
9:15 pm
Finally, Kotchman does something.
bravefaninok
June 24th, 2009
9:15 pm
Kotchy gets a single cmon frenchy……………..
wow
June 24th, 2009
9:15 pm
I like Chip i dont see how you cant he brings the passion with him every game.
jkerr
June 24th, 2009
9:15 pm
here is your chance francine
Tomahawkin
June 24th, 2009
9:15 pm
We Are Gonna Slap Pettite Tomorrow, “Bank On It!”
Pettite Is a known pitcher to us…
THWG
June 24th, 2009
9:15 pm
I think Rick Sutcliffe loves cervelli more than Joe Simpson loves frenchy
bravos2249
June 24th, 2009
9:15 pm
Heath (Cleveland)
I agree. Some people say…sometimes you earn a save in the 6th. You can’t think about what may happen in the game….put the best in that spot…w/o using your closer.
David O'Brien
June 24th, 2009
9:15 pm
Crowd of 42,315
rob from sc
June 24th, 2009
9:16 pm
Heath (Cleveland)
Bobby Cox would keep Bennett and DFA DOB
FEAR
June 24th, 2009
9:16 pm
Heath – Cox would probably wipe a booger on DOB and kick him out of his office.
JJ (WTH is Jeff Bennett still on the roster???)
June 24th, 2009
9:16 pm
Heath (Cleveland) –
I wouldn’t hold my breath or wait around tonight for DOB to ask that particular question…..
Heath (Cleveland)
June 24th, 2009
9:16 pm
Could almost guarantee JF would be swinging for the fences after his last AB.
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
9:16 pm
Could Bobby be racist??
He doesnt like escobar
Doesnt put in Acosta
Doesnt play Prado
Paul Lentz
June 24th, 2009
9:16 pm
This just goes to show what the Braves have to look forward to when we dont shut the other team down. Our offense really lacks consistent power (particularly consistent right handed power).
Double play anyone? Francoeur tried to hit another homer on those first two swings.
rob from sc
June 24th, 2009
9:16 pm
bravos2249
You are correct because we could score 5 runs and not need a closer, then again any lead any Bobby uses the big three
Unknown
June 24th, 2009
9:17 pm
Theres the Frenchy we all know and hate.
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
9:17 pm
Man this team needs a bat
Mitchell
June 24th, 2009
9:17 pm
It’s okay, as long as he only makes one out.
As long as Kelly uses that song he’s only going to get worse.
Paul Lentz
June 24th, 2009
9:17 pm
Well, at least he didnt hit into a double play. Hopefully Kelly wont hit into a double play so Bobby can pinch hit for Bennett and get his a$$ out of the game.
Doug
June 24th, 2009
9:17 pm
NICE!
groundfog
June 24th, 2009
9:17 pm
nice KJ
BravesFanChris24
June 24th, 2009
9:17 pm
Way to go Kelly!
bravefaninok
June 24th, 2009
9:17 pm
K J perfect bunt
J williams
June 24th, 2009
9:17 pm
Worse thing that could have happened to Jeff was to hit a homerun…now he’s swinging for the fenses!
FEAR
June 24th, 2009
9:17 pm
nice play there…caught em off gaurd
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
9:17 pm
didnt see that coming
Mitchell
June 24th, 2009
9:17 pm
There we go. Finally a bunt.
Shamus Thacker
June 24th, 2009
9:18 pm
Bobby is no racist.
rob from sc
June 24th, 2009
9:18 pm
Attention Frank Wren
You let Smoltz leave, you released Tom Glavine, For the love of God please don’t re-sign Bobby Cox
wow
June 24th, 2009
9:18 pm
we caught a break can we take advantage though
Brooklyn Braves Brawler
June 24th, 2009
9:18 pm
Oh, I can’t forget about Johnny Rox (Rocker). Other than being a racist and a prick, he was hell of pitcher. Guys would sing just to protect themselves from getting hit with the ball!
BTW: Kelly Sux! 9 for 67! Make that 10 for 68!
cabravesfan
June 24th, 2009
9:18 pm
good idea KJ! Speed is a wonderful thing
Vinings Jim
June 24th, 2009
9:18 pm
Little late on agreeing on this, but, clearly, after pitching in his sixth major league game, we can definitively conclude Kris Medlen has a mental problem (or is it Kris we can conclude that about)?
TNScott
June 24th, 2009
9:18 pm
Smart move, Kelly!!
jkerr
June 24th, 2009
9:18 pm
we get a break, can we do something with it?
never going to win
June 24th, 2009
9:18 pm
How many foul ball popups can 1 douche hit in an fn season.
Heath (Cleveland)
June 24th, 2009
9:18 pm
Good play by KJ. Make them make the perfect defensive play.
N8
June 24th, 2009
9:18 pm
“His OPS is above .900 in every situation…” Steve
Except in March, April and May of 2008, when the Braves got buried in the standings.
Tex was only slightly better last spring than Jeff was in April and May of this year. Barely.
So don’t give me that he’s thrives in every situation. He DID NOT thrive when the Braves NEEDED him to carry them on his back. Or didn’t you watch the games last year. LOL!
Mitchell
June 24th, 2009
9:18 pm
Martin, gapper baby! Let’s go.
J-MAN
June 24th, 2009
9:18 pm
Wow!!! Kelly Johnson made the smartest play ive seen him make in 3 years. Props!!!
abwright
June 24th, 2009
9:18 pm
Gonzalez has been used on the 21, 22, 23.
Moylan has been used on the 21, 22, 23.
Soriano has been used on the 22, 23.
O’Flaherty has been used on the 21 and got tossed after one batter.
Acosta last pitched on the 14th!
Bennett pitched on the 20, 21 (one pitch)
This was a bad game to have your starter go three. Medlen needed to soak up 4-5 innings. But Moylan and Gonzalez have to be unavailable tonight.
BravesFanChris24
June 24th, 2009
9:18 pm
Prado hitting.
bravefaninok
June 24th, 2009
9:18 pm
Marteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
9:18 pm
Prado
FEAR
June 24th, 2009
9:19 pm
earn that starting spot prado!!!!
rob from sc
June 24th, 2009
9:19 pm
Prado will get a hit then not play for a week
Paul Lentz
June 24th, 2009
9:19 pm
Nice bunt there Kelly. Come on Prado.
TnBrian
June 24th, 2009
9:19 pm
I don’t want to hear that BS one more time from Chip carey about Girardi getting thrown as what woke up the Yankees either. Medlen has very little stamina and was making horrible pitches starting with that walk. Bennett is no more than a AA pitcher at best. Good pitching always win. Chip is trying to make it out to be a dramatic story.
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
9:19 pm
Love too see the top of the lineup
The Abs Man
June 24th, 2009
9:19 pm
This Jeff Bennett move into a 1-1 game vs. Yanks is the exact reason why Braves cannot be taken seriously as a quality team.
This 20-ton bull elephant in the room blocking Braves prograss is senile and stubborn Bobby Cox. Plain and simple.
Show some onions and leave old man. Before you kill another season.
What’s this morbid attraction to Bennett? Is he a relative? Does Cox owe the family some money?
How many games is this bum gonna blow?
And the old fool leaves him in the next inning! Lead-off homer. Shocking.
JJ (WTH is Jeff Bennett still on the roster???)
June 24th, 2009
9:19 pm
Prado PHing…..best news of the night cuz it also meand NO MORE BENNETT!!!!!
bravos2249
June 24th, 2009
9:19 pm
rob from sc
I know. But too many times…not just with the Braves…managers put in MR when it’s a big spot and they fail. Would it have killed to have Moylan or Soriano pitch….maybe Soriano…but I would not have hated it one bit if Moylan came in…..if he gave it up, it’s not like he was struggling the last few days. I mean give Acosta a chance…he’s no worse than Bennett…if you have 7 guys in the BP use all of them!!
rob from sc
June 24th, 2009
9:20 pm
those are not strikes
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
9:20 pm
That was outside
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
9:20 pm
I have a fealing its going to be a breaking ball
Shamus Thacker
June 24th, 2009
9:20 pm
It’s a shame KK had to leave.
BravesFanChris24
June 24th, 2009
9:20 pm
Prado!
Doug
June 24th, 2009
9:20 pm
PRADO!
FEAR
June 24th, 2009
9:20 pm
YES!!!!!!!
Heath (Cleveland)
June 24th, 2009
9:20 pm
Gotta love Prado!!!
rob from sc
June 24th, 2009
9:21 pm
Told you he would get a hit, now he will ride the pine for a week
bravos2249
June 24th, 2009
9:21 pm
HAHA Tex missed it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tomahawkin
June 24th, 2009
9:21 pm
there we go!!!
Carpe Diem
June 24th, 2009
9:21 pm
Like many said, pretty much no chance after losing KK. Medlen just isn’t there yet,if ever, and Bennett…well ’nuff said.They needed to score some runs and they didn’t. Too bad, hope KK is not hurt badly.
Mixxo
June 24th, 2009
9:21 pm
Nice Martin!
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
9:21 pm
Prado clutch
J-MAN
June 24th, 2009
9:21 pm
PradoOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
RHR
June 24th, 2009
9:21 pm
Marteeeeeeeeeeeeeeennnnnnnnnnn!
Brooklyn Braves Brawler
June 24th, 2009
9:21 pm
Marteen is beast! Luv that guy!
Unknown
June 24th, 2009
9:21 pm
Prado is quietly becoming my favorite player.
jukeandjive
June 24th, 2009
9:21 pm
PRADO! PRADO! PRADO!
i cant take it anymore
June 24th, 2009
9:21 pm
BRAVESMAN…your and idiot
Mitchell
June 24th, 2009
9:21 pm
That’s what I’m talkin’ about!
Gotta love my boy Prado. Screw this, this ain’t over. Yankees have to earn it and so far they have not.
bravesgirlnc
June 24th, 2009
9:21 pm
Prado is the man
Jeff R
June 24th, 2009
9:21 pm
Yeah, I don’t get bringing Bennett in… Then, again, Kelly Johnson is at 2B. Go figure.
On another topic, Bench was a great catcher. Got to watch him play when I was a kid. The guy had one of the best arms of all time.
Once, I saw him flick the ball to first base from a crouch. Nearly caught the runner. Flicked it just as if he had stood and threw full force.
Ted Simmons and Gary Carter were very good catchers, but nothing compared to Bench.
TnBrian
June 24th, 2009
9:21 pm
Why again is this kid not our everyday 2B?
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
9:21 pm
lets atleast get the run in from 3rd
Medlin Is Chuck James
June 24th, 2009
9:21 pm
No offense, Tomahawkin, but your “bank on it” statements have proved to be wrong most of the time. Those “bank on it’s” have almost been a kiss of death. lol
CorkylikesBeer
June 24th, 2009
9:21 pm
DOB…Prado..isn’t hurting at all. I can’t see why he doesn’t get to play
FEAR
June 24th, 2009
9:21 pm
nate goes yard and we take the lead? please!
bravos2249
June 24th, 2009
9:22 pm
This is why we lose….had this been anybody on our team Bobby would leave them in…..
BravesFanChris24
June 24th, 2009
9:22 pm
I think Prado will start tomorrow.
bigmacattack
June 24th, 2009
9:22 pm
Maybe this guy will be the Yanks Jeff Bennett
Soph
June 24th, 2009
9:22 pm
Gotta love Marteeeeeeen.
jkerr
June 24th, 2009
9:22 pm
man, i wish PRADO was healthy so he can start playing every day
Mixxo
June 24th, 2009
9:22 pm
Maybe it’s not “ballgame” just yet …..
Mitchell
June 24th, 2009
9:22 pm
I’d take a squeeze by Nate.
That sounds weird.
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
9:22 pm
Tribrian
Ask bobby????
abwright
June 24th, 2009
9:22 pm
Great job of pinch hitting by Martin Prado. Sends a 1-2 pitch into the RF corner.
Kotchman scores all the way from second.
Joba out of the game.
First and third with one out, down two runs. Braves really need to get that run in from third.
Fortunately, McLouth, Escobar, and Chipper are coming up.
rob from sc
June 24th, 2009
9:22 pm
For me, there is nothing else I can say about Bobby Cox. He plays his guys regardless of stats. Yes he won a World Series, but he lost 4 with Maddux Glavine Smoltz and Avery.
Shamus Thacker
June 24th, 2009
9:22 pm
When I see Bennett I have the urge to go fetal and babble to myself.
Paul Lentz
June 24th, 2009
9:22 pm
Way to go PRADO……..nice going the opposite way with 2 strikes.
Good spot for McLouth to come up….runners on 1st and 3rd, one out, fast runners on base with Kelly on 3rd and Blanco on 1st. I’d be happy with a sac fly right now (although I’d love to see him jack one right now, lol).
who knew
June 24th, 2009
9:22 pm
while on this break, everyone go to MLB.com and get your 25 votes in for Jeff Bennett for the All Star team… come on now, show some support..
Doug
June 24th, 2009
9:23 pm
This would be a good time for another gapper from Nate
TBF(n)K as Billy
June 24th, 2009
9:23 pm
has bennett ever not allowed a run…hate to bash players really do as most here go overboard but it seems benette can get people out when it counts….get rid of him
Unknown
June 24th, 2009
9:23 pm
C’mon Nate!
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
9:23 pm
Phil coke coming in
Cmon Mclouth this is why we got you
bigmacattack
June 24th, 2009
9:23 pm
DOB…Prado..isn’t hurting at all
What he’s showing and what he’s actually feeling could be completely different.
bravos2249
June 24th, 2009
9:23 pm
TnBrian
Right now he’s hurt….and DOB said the groin has been a problem with Prado for 2 yrs I think…he’d have to not play for 2 months to be fully healed…and the Braves really can’t afford that….whether Omar is healthy or not.
Jeff R
June 24th, 2009
9:23 pm
But let’s not forget that Prado is to valuable in utility to have him start at 2B.
Brooklyn Braves Brawler
June 24th, 2009
9:23 pm
Marteen would start on a lot of teams, he needs to be starting on this one
Doug
June 24th, 2009
9:23 pm
Dang
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
9:24 pm
Mclouth put a ride into that
bigmacattack
June 24th, 2009
9:24 pm
wow, he got lucky.
he jumped at the right time
rob from sc
June 24th, 2009
9:24 pm
I thought that was gone. SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO close
Mitchell
June 24th, 2009
9:24 pm
Give me a break. That would have been sweet.
Heath (Cleveland)
June 24th, 2009
9:24 pm
Almost!!!
Atleast got the run in.
cabravesfan
June 24th, 2009
9:24 pm
that was a great catch by Swisher…good out by Nate though
FEAR
June 24th, 2009
9:24 pm
I WAS SOOOOOO CLOSE!!!!!
Unknown
June 24th, 2009
9:24 pm
missed it by that much!
David O'Brien
June 24th, 2009
9:24 pm
Wow. McLouth’s got some serious pop. I thought that was gone, for sure. Helluva catch.
J-MAN
June 24th, 2009
9:24 pm
Oh so close Ugh, At least we got a sac fly.
never going to win
June 24th, 2009
9:24 pm
Fn, f, fn fn f
RHR
June 24th, 2009
9:24 pm
YOU SONOFABITCH – Swisher, you’re off my twitter friends list.
But YAY Nate! We’ll take one.
Soph
June 24th, 2009
9:24 pm
Sooooooo close
abwright
June 24th, 2009
9:24 pm
McLouth hit a deeeeep fly ball to the wall. Goes as a sac fly, with KJ scoring.
Jake W.
June 24th, 2009
9:24 pm
Yikes, man. Geez man.
Tomahawkin
June 24th, 2009
9:24 pm
That would’ve been a homer anywhere else, Dammit!!!
Bobby Cox Hat Tipping Club
June 24th, 2009
9:24 pm
Thank you Nick Swisher for conceding that run. Kotchman was stumbling around third looking like a Nash with a blown engine when you decided to throw to second.
Mixxo
June 24th, 2009
9:24 pm
Oh maaaaaan! Thought it was gone!
Mitchell
June 24th, 2009
9:24 pm
He made it look hard, it probably wasn’t.
rob from sc
June 24th, 2009
9:24 pm
Lets go Esco
Paul Lentz
June 24th, 2009
9:24 pm
DAMN……………….McLouth is really swinging the bat well. At least it was a sac fly.
Come on Escobar.
who knew
June 24th, 2009
9:24 pm
yeah, that was great… someone shoot suttcliff
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
9:24 pm
atleast we got that run
Heath (Cleveland)
June 24th, 2009
9:24 pm
That is probably a HR in Yankee stadium.
abwright
June 24th, 2009
9:25 pm
And, boy, does that HR in the top of the inning hurt.
rob from sc
June 24th, 2009
9:25 pm
Joe says Prado can’t run because he is injured, Chip says he has good speed
BravesFanChris24
June 24th, 2009
9:25 pm
1 Run Game and 2 at bats left.
Brooklyn Braves Brawler
June 24th, 2009
9:25 pm
Forgot we only had one out when Nate hit that flyball
FEAR
June 24th, 2009
9:25 pm
well lets keep it close
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
9:25 pm
Blaming Bennet big time now
Bobby Cox Hat Tipping Club
June 24th, 2009
9:25 pm
Bennett’s inability to pitch effective baseball is even more of an issue now.
groundfog
June 24th, 2009
9:25 pm
WOW THIS IS REMINDING ME OF THE 90S-THE EXCITEMENT!
Unknown
June 24th, 2009
9:25 pm
At least we got 2 back.
bravos2249
June 24th, 2009
9:25 pm
And had Bobby not put Bennett back out there it would be a TIE GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Soph
June 24th, 2009
9:26 pm
So, who will be pitching next?
bigmacattack
June 24th, 2009
9:26 pm
Alright Braves bullpen, whoever gives up as much as a run in the next two innings can expect a pink slip!
rob from sc
June 24th, 2009
9:26 pm
We all know Bennett sucks. Blame the manager for letting him anywhere near the mound.
Mitchell
June 24th, 2009
9:26 pm
So glad Bennett came back to pitch the 7th. Love that extra run he gave them.
Have to keep it at 1.
Heath (Cleveland)
June 24th, 2009
9:26 pm
I would like to see Acosta here.
Bravesman
June 24th, 2009
9:26 pm
Mclouth almost had that
never going to win
June 24th, 2009
9:26 pm
eight down the middle and he pops it up. 9th inning is francine’ shelly and some random fan. Game over. Way to go losers. Losing streak sta