SOMETHING has to be done to get these players heads in the game … KL, Frenchy and Bennett should just be freaking released …. gotta wake these boys up.
SOMETHING has to be done to get these players heads in the game … KL, Frenchy and Bennett should just be freaking released …. gotta wake these boys up.
You really think we’ll be able to produce without Kelly Lohnson?
Chip called it a slider! A slider? Rivera throws one damn pitch, Chip. One.
I’ve never been one to get down on the guys calling the game, but that’s bad. Glad I watched the ESPN telecast tonight. I’m getting tired of Chip too. Riding Harry and Skip’s(RIP) coattails to a job. Sort of like Bill Bavasi doing the same with Buzzie to get his job with the Angels. Mariners fans were unfortunately unaware that the man that would ruin their franchise was given his start that day, but Baltimore Orioles fans now hold that day to be a national holiday.
On a completely unrelated note, Rivera has really shown some hard-core longevity for a reliver, huh?
Confidence be damned: Donkey has to have a quicker hook with these bullpen guys – he has no feel for the game flow.
Medlen should have been pulled immediately after the homer and it shouldn’t have been allowed to escalate into the mess.
I would have pull O’ Loaferthy’s ass too for not covering the bag. That kind of crap always bites the Braves in the butt – and sure enough it did.
Can the Jeff Bennett Experiment please end. Yes, he can hum it 95 mph, but he cannot pitch.
And forgive me for being a tad hypothetical here, but I daresay that he most certainly did not call for it to be right down the middle. But then again, I don’t know anything, you do, etc., etc….
I thought Giraldi and Yankee fans were smarter than that….he flat out had to be asked by the ump if he wanted to be ejected…..what’s “sly” about that….
We had this obnoxious gooberish girl sitting in our section who kept rooting for the Yanks in the most annoying girlish ways. We had this other hot blond soriority looking chick in our section who was evidently a Braves fan. She didn’t say much of anything the entire game. But after Rivera struck KJ out, the hot blond chick who was a Braves fan made her way down the stairs to leave. But before she exits, she takes the giant cup of water she’s got in her hand and flings it all over the annoying Yankee chick, and then flees the scene. In the words of Ron Burgundy, Stay Classy Atlanta!
Felt bad for the Yankee chick for a brief second until she started acting like woe is me, Braves fans are so trashy, and Yankees fans are so classy. Screw it, I thought to myself, it ain’t right, but she had it coming.
And, oh, those five cars on Pryor Street that got their windows busted out during the Cubs game on Monday night, does anyone plan on cleaning up all that glass? Or is that gonna remain an eyesore as long as the Westin Hotel has remained an eyesore after that tornado?
Yes, Joe Simpson has really slipped to the level of rah-rah cheerleader homer. But what’s really annoying is his constant complaining about the umpiring. He seems to blame every Braves loss on a bad call.
Jeff Bennett may have “good stuff”, but he doesn’t execute well. And…I wish he would lose some weight.
But you know who didn’t execute that pitch? Bobby Cox. You know who didn’t formulate a strict workout and biochemically-engineered diet for Jeff Bennett? Bobby Cox. Moron. Boom. Hee-haw. Fin.
Your story reminds me of a girl I saw at the game yesterday…She had the Atlanta “A” tattooed on her foot. It was adorable. I think I might get one in a couple of years.
Bravehart–don’t complain. At least you get to go to the games more than once a year (if I can even make it down to Cincy for that; this year I couldn’t).
But, if Bobby Cox hadn’t been the manager, Jeff wouldn’t have been so distracted by the nose-picking and donkey stench and would’ve gotten out of the inning without any problems…right?
I wonder when Bobby Cox is going to be held accountable for all the mismanaging he does.This crap has been going on for years,evrn when the Braves were losing 13 out of 14 championship series.Everybody in my house said get Medlin out after the HR,but not BC.He leaves him in untill it’s Bennett’s time to bring back memories of CLebrant.Good ole Bobby,players friend to the end.Braves lose,but Bobby sticks by his players.And with players not covering bases and other miscues,I wonder why he didn’t BENCH Escabor.This is not Braves baseball,or is it?Bobby something is rotten in Braveland and it’s time for you to GO.That ex Brave coach in Fla. is getting it done and you’re failing bad.Wren,It’s time to save this team and send Bobby Coix to the FARM.
Your story reminds me of a girl I saw at the game yesterday…She had the Atlanta “A” tattooed on her foot. It was adorable. I think I might get one in a couple of years. (ROMAN GAL)
Mac calls most of, if not all of, the games, skeeter. I very rarely (if at all) see him look over to the dugout for a sign. Didn’t see him do it on that pitch, either, unless I missed something (which I may have). I haven’t read anything to suggest that anyone but Mac calls the games either. And I think it’s cute that you defend Coach like that.
People always give this bull about they don’t hurt….I’m sure they do, they are probably the ones who scream while getting one. I think the foot or ankle is the most painful….IDK…I’d tell you to get a little buzzed before you go…hey if you don’t drink just take some medicine that makes you drowsy…lol…IDK what to tell ya
I would never defend Coach, and I don’t know how much control Cox gives McCann. I was just saying it was silly of you to blow that statement off like its insane. Some managers are so controlling they call the whole game. Larussa use to be that way.
Steve is correct, the manager never calls pitches from the dugout. It was all McCann when the Braves intentionally walked Teixiera to get to A-Rod. So yea, it was all McCann’s fault as to the pitch selection and another Cox defender has revealed his true colors….
skeeter, as far as I’ve read/seen, Mac calls at least most of the game, if not all of it. And I think he’s done a pretty solid job. It’s just another one of Coach’s BS statements trying to tag every team failure on Cox. And I wouldn’t expect anything less of him. Oh well, at least he gets pretty creative about it so I can actually get a laugh every now and then. The hee-haw routine gets old but with Coach…always someting new.
No offense to you man, I’ve just had a very long couple of days…
Well, seeing as there was a COACHING VISIT to the mound right before the Tex AB, sure, that can fly. Never once did I see Mac look to the dugout during the A-Rod at-bat, though. So either A) Cox yelled “fastball, Mac” right before that pitch or B) McDowell told Bennett that he’s only allowed to throw fastballs right down the middle (since you accused Cox of calling the location, too). Another Cox hater shows his true colors…
Ok, I’m defending Bobby Cox, sure, whatever, but you’re not defending YOUR statement. Big difference there Plato. But you know, that’s always your typical MO, you can talk the talk but when it comes right down to it you can’t walk the walk.
I don’t understand why anyone would think Cox or anyone else would call for a fastball down the middle. It was just terrible execution to a great hitter.
You know what I’d like to see? Since Bobby will never be fired, what if he suddenly announced that he was retiring at the end of the season? I think that would definitely fire up this otherwise lifeless team. Might even push the front office to make another deal.
I think the team is fired up, just not executing well on defense. mental lapses. not to mention human run machine jeff bennett. lot of weird things tonight. passed ball by mac. throw down to second that hit jeter. throw down to first that hit cano. mclouth’s drive that fell just short of a 3 run homer. (has he been a beast lately or what?) just a weird game. KK’s painful 1-5-3 putout.
From K-Ros this morning, perhaps another outfielder we are looking at adding:
The Brewers’ quest for pitching could lead to renewed talks with the Braves, who in the past have targeted Brewers right fielder Corey Hart. The Braves would need to clear their own right fielder, Jeff Francoeur, before acquiring Hart, and no team is hot after Francoeur.
The problem for the Brewers in trading Hart is their lack of a suitable replacement. Still, the Braves are deep in pitching — and could get even deeper if right-hander Tim Hudson returns from Tommy John surgery in mid-August.
Like Francoeur, Hart is in his first year of arbitration and signed to a similar contract. Surely the Royals would take him if we just sort of gave him away.
The Braves apparently inquired on Hart back in early December at the Winter Meetings, though there is some debate as to whether they did or not. Hart is a somewhat similar player to Francoeur, though he may be realizing more of his potential at this point than our current right fielder.
The Braves Kelly Johnson is an albatross in the lineup
Gondeee_tiny by gondeee on Jun 24, 2009 5:01 PM EDT Comment 31 comments
The guys over at Rowland’s Office came up with these pitiful numbers about our second baseman, Kelly Johnson:
20 — Games since Kelly Johnson had an RBI hit.
17 – Games since Kelly got more than one hit in a game.
19 — Games since Kelly got 3 hits in a game.
4 — Hits by Martin Prado in his past 5 at-bats.
4 — Hits by Kelly in his past 35 at-bats.
7 — RBIs for Kelly in the season’s first 7 games.
8 — RBIs for Kelly in his past 26 games.
.203, .297, .138 — Kelly’s batting averages for the months of April, May and June.
2/12 — Kelly’s RBIs and total bases in June.
3/13 — Backup catcher David Ross’s RBIs and total bases in June.
220 — National Leaguers with better on base percentages than Kelly.
Jame Moyer — the person just ahead of Kelly on the NL OBP list.
Guess who’s starting at second tonight?
Yuck. But Bobby Cox just keeps trotting him out there every day hoping he will play his way out of his funk.
You know Bobby complained on that call for awhile…either the umps were nice tonight or they knew the effed the call up. Because Bobby usually gets ejected for that stuff.
This ain’t Washington or KC…if the braves want to win they need someone better than KJ in the lineup. I’m just saying I could take Kelly or Jeff…but it’s hard having to see both play.
bravos2249,
Thats right, we can be patient with one……..since they “have potential”, but cant be patient with both of them…………so Id suggest the organization to choose their weapon and send the other one packing.
This is a very good story about our second base situation. (RG)
I’ve seen that defensive stat on Prado B4 and I don’t for a minute think he is anywhere near that bad a defender. The writer crteams Martin for a stat with a small MLB sample size and then gives KJ a pass on a much bigger sample size saying he was initially an outfielder when in fact he was initially a SS . There is not that much difference in their abilities one way or the other. That closing summation smacks of pushing an agenda to me.
That closing summation smacks of pushing an agenda to me.
…and?
Kidding, kidding. I was mostly talking about the offensive numbers anyways. I know Martin isn’t the best fielder, but he’s not a butcher. I think Kelly has been much, much better this year defensively.
Personally, I’m ready to dance with the Devil, as in talking trade with the Phillies.
I know most Braves fans don’t know who Michael Taylor is but believe you me, he’s a five tool monster just baking away in the Phillies oven. I wouldn’t hesitate to trade Javier Vasquez for Taylor and a package of Philly prospects.
I think Kelly has been much, much better this year defensively. (RG)
yes I think so too, but he has been much worse offensively. I have always supported Prado, but have also always thought that Kelly has more upside on O and that he should start. But even I am beginning to think about changing my opinion on that subject. I sure hope he breaks out while we are still close. Of course Chipper had an entire year where he hit .249-don’t ask me how he managed that-and he bounced back, but he also had a prolonged history of success B4 that happened.
I think braves have learned from the past……….running away with division paying lots of money to lots of people just doesnt make sense. Their new approach of things………..let the team dance around half the season and then we will insert the missing piece……….no need to insert it that early and win the division by 10 games……….that will not guarantee you a WS title. even WC would do……….
Braves have a team to compete and beat any team in the league………I mean close to it. It is clear they are just 2 moves away……….getting 1 moderate RBI man……….a guy that will end the season with more than 100 RBI and step 2 would be getting rid of bennett………..that would do. This second step we might be able to complete once JoJo is back………..or campillo………if they ever are.
nolie………..Prado just looks more professional, more comfortable at the plate………….the guy looks confident………….he feels he is going to get a hit………..he knows he can help.
KJ and JF have an expression on their faces like………….please god help me………..Im desperate for a hit…………anything would do…………let me get on base on an err.
Prado and Infante bring a positive note with them………….KJ and JF bring nothing but stress to this team………..frustration, and we dont need more of that, do we?
I agree, but I also don’t want Prado to hurt his groin any more than he has too. And for “our” team to be playing so bad…being only 4 games out in June I believe is the best we’ve been in the last couple of years.
Well I mean he ain’t gotta be no Albert Pujols…but as long as he can
Hit, hit with men on base, play good defense, and drive in runs….then by so means do.
The Braves could get DeRosa for likely 2 minor leaguers or 1 major leaguer. The Cleveland pen sucks….why not try and give them a prospect Bennett and maybe someone else….probably wouldn’t work…lol.
Bennett may suck, but in that BP he’d be good…trust me.
I am in opposition to the Braves trying to add another veteran bat.
For obvious reasons. Our Braves would have to play .600 baseball for the rest of the season and they haven’t done that since 2004. Secondly, the defense isn’t up to par. It must be addressed. Third but not least, the running game is all but non-existent. This is not the way the game of baseball is supposed to be played.
One veteran bat won’t fix this team. Hell, two won’t. It’s like putting a band aid on a bullet wound. The patient is still critical and the bleeding can’t be stopped without major surgery.
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hmmmm
June 25th, 2009
12:26 am
SOMETHING has to be done to get these players heads in the game … KL, Frenchy and Bennett should just be freaking released …. gotta wake these boys up.
Mel on a car phone
June 25th, 2009
12:27 am
Pettitte was a bit younger back then too. He hasn’t faced the Braves since Sept. 30, 2006.
jeffrey d
June 25th, 2009
12:28 am
SOMETHING has to be done to get these players heads in the game … KL, Frenchy and Bennett should just be freaking released …. gotta wake these boys up.
You really think we’ll be able to produce without Kelly Lohnson?
Braveheart
June 25th, 2009
12:29 am
Coach, is it wrecking ball time? Isn’t June right about the time you start swinging that wrecking ball every which way?
Steve from OH
June 25th, 2009
12:31 am
Chip called it a slider! A slider? Rivera throws one damn pitch, Chip. One.
I’ve never been one to get down on the guys calling the game, but that’s bad. Glad I watched the ESPN telecast tonight. I’m getting tired of Chip too. Riding Harry and Skip’s(RIP) coattails to a job. Sort of like Bill Bavasi doing the same with Buzzie to get his job with the Angels. Mariners fans were unfortunately unaware that the man that would ruin their franchise was given his start that day, but Baltimore Orioles fans now hold that day to be a national holiday.
On a completely unrelated note, Rivera has really shown some hard-core longevity for a reliver, huh?
Kentavo
June 25th, 2009
12:31 am
Confidence be damned: Donkey has to have a quicker hook with these bullpen guys – he has no feel for the game flow.
Medlen should have been pulled immediately after the homer and it shouldn’t have been allowed to escalate into the mess.
I would have pull O’ Loaferthy’s ass too for not covering the bag. That kind of crap always bites the Braves in the butt – and sure enough it did.
Can the Jeff Bennett Experiment please end. Yes, he can hum it 95 mph, but he cannot pitch.
Steve from OH
June 25th, 2009
12:34 am
The question is, who is the moron who called for Jeff Bennett to groove an 0-2 fastball to A-Rod when they should have wasted a pitch?
Brian McCann? You know, the guy who typically calls the games?
Coach ( 2010 or Bust)
June 25th, 2009
12:37 am
No wrecking ball or magic wand can fix this bunch. This is by far the worst offense since Cox took over in 1990.
Steve from OH
June 25th, 2009
12:38 am
And forgive me for being a tad hypothetical here, but I daresay that he most certainly did not call for it to be right down the middle. But then again, I don’t know anything, you do, etc., etc….
jeffrey d
June 25th, 2009
12:40 am
I thought you left, Coach?
bravos2249
June 25th, 2009
12:44 am
Chop Chop
I thought Giraldi and Yankee fans were smarter than that….he flat out had to be asked by the ump if he wanted to be ejected…..what’s “sly” about that….
Braveheart
June 25th, 2009
12:45 am
We had this obnoxious gooberish girl sitting in our section who kept rooting for the Yanks in the most annoying girlish ways. We had this other hot blond soriority looking chick in our section who was evidently a Braves fan. She didn’t say much of anything the entire game. But after Rivera struck KJ out, the hot blond chick who was a Braves fan made her way down the stairs to leave. But before she exits, she takes the giant cup of water she’s got in her hand and flings it all over the annoying Yankee chick, and then flees the scene. In the words of Ron Burgundy, Stay Classy Atlanta!
Felt bad for the Yankee chick for a brief second until she started acting like woe is me, Braves fans are so trashy, and Yankees fans are so classy. Screw it, I thought to myself, it ain’t right, but she had it coming.
And, oh, those five cars on Pryor Street that got their windows busted out during the Cubs game on Monday night, does anyone plan on cleaning up all that glass? Or is that gonna remain an eyesore as long as the Westin Hotel has remained an eyesore after that tornado?
Robert
June 25th, 2009
12:45 am
Tonight’s game was donkey baseball at its finest
Tri State
June 25th, 2009
12:46 am
Yes, Joe Simpson has really slipped to the level of rah-rah cheerleader homer. But what’s really annoying is his constant complaining about the umpiring. He seems to blame every Braves loss on a bad call.
Roman Gal
June 25th, 2009
12:48 am
I daresay that he most certainly did not call for it to be right down the middle.
One word; execution.
Jeff Bennett may have “good stuff”, but he doesn’t execute well. And…I wish he would lose some weight.
Steve from OH
June 25th, 2009
12:50 am
One word; execution.
Jeff Bennett may have “good stuff”, but he doesn’t execute well. And…I wish he would lose some weight.
But you know who didn’t execute that pitch? Bobby Cox. You know who didn’t formulate a strict workout and biochemically-engineered diet for Jeff Bennett? Bobby Cox. Moron. Boom. Hee-haw. Fin.
Roman Gal
June 25th, 2009
12:50 am
Braveheart-
Your story reminds me of a girl I saw at the game yesterday…She had the Atlanta “A” tattooed on her foot. It was adorable. I think I might get one in a couple of years.
Steve from OH
June 25th, 2009
12:52 am
Bravehart–don’t complain. At least you get to go to the games more than once a year (if I can even make it down to Cincy for that; this year I couldn’t).
Roman Gal
June 25th, 2009
12:53 am
Steve-
But, if Bobby Cox hadn’t been the manager, Jeff wouldn’t have been so distracted by the nose-picking and donkey stench and would’ve gotten out of the inning without any problems…right?
jj
June 25th, 2009
12:54 am
I wonder when Bobby Cox is going to be held accountable for all the mismanaging he does.This crap has been going on for years,evrn when the Braves were losing 13 out of 14 championship series.Everybody in my house said get Medlin out after the HR,but not BC.He leaves him in untill it’s Bennett’s time to bring back memories of CLebrant.Good ole Bobby,players friend to the end.Braves lose,but Bobby sticks by his players.And with players not covering bases and other miscues,I wonder why he didn’t BENCH Escabor.This is not Braves baseball,or is it?Bobby something is rotten in Braveland and it’s time for you to GO.That ex Brave coach in Fla. is getting it done and you’re failing bad.Wren,It’s time to save this team and send Bobby Coix to the FARM.
Skeeterleg
June 25th, 2009
12:55 am
Steve from OH – Thats cute that you were trying to be a smartazz and all, but Bobby Cox calls some pitches from the dugout. A lot of managers do.
Braveheart
June 25th, 2009
12:56 am
Your story reminds me of a girl I saw at the game yesterday…She had the Atlanta “A” tattooed on her foot. It was adorable. I think I might get one in a couple of years. (ROMAN GAL)
Get the tat now while you’re still in college.
Steve from OH
June 25th, 2009
12:57 am
How could Bennett possibly be distracted by Bobby’s stench when he’s always got that enourmous lipper in? My God, how can the man smell anything?
Roman Gal
June 25th, 2009
12:58 am
Get the tat now while you’re still in college.
But aren’t they really painful? Especially if I were to get it on top of my foot…it’ll probably take me a while to build up my courage.
Steve from OH
June 25th, 2009
12:59 am
Mac calls most of, if not all of, the games, skeeter. I very rarely (if at all) see him look over to the dugout for a sign. Didn’t see him do it on that pitch, either, unless I missed something (which I may have). I haven’t read anything to suggest that anyone but Mac calls the games either. And I think it’s cute that you defend Coach like that.
Chop Chop
June 25th, 2009
12:59 am
One would think that “The Scarlet Letter” would deter women from wanting the letter “A” tattooed on their bodies.
bravos2249
June 25th, 2009
1:01 am
Braveheart
Hey at least it was water…Are you saying 5 cars in the parking lot got their windows knocked out or 5 cars on the street did?
Braveheart
June 25th, 2009
1:01 am
Yeah, RG, unless you’ve got you some cankles, I gotta imagine that getting a tat on your foot where you have little fat has got to hurt like hell
Chop Chop
June 25th, 2009
1:02 am
If you really love your girlfriends/wives, buy ‘em white Braves T-shirts with the big red script A on the front of ‘em. See if they get the joke.
Braveheart
June 25th, 2009
1:03 am
bravos2249, 5 cars parked on the street. They thought they were slick I guess parking in that neighborhood for free.
bravos2249
June 25th, 2009
1:03 am
Roman Gal
People always give this bull about they don’t hurt….I’m sure they do, they are probably the ones who scream while getting one. I think the foot or ankle is the most painful….IDK…I’d tell you to get a little buzzed before you go…hey if you don’t drink just take some medicine that makes you drowsy…lol…IDK what to tell ya
Roman Gal
June 25th, 2009
1:04 am
Chop Chop-
That’s funny. I didn’t think about that. Funny thing is, my dad is a preacher, too
Skeeterleg
June 25th, 2009
1:04 am
I would never defend Coach, and I don’t know how much control Cox gives McCann. I was just saying it was silly of you to blow that statement off like its insane. Some managers are so controlling they call the whole game. Larussa use to be that way.
bravos2249
June 25th, 2009
1:05 am
Braveheart
Wow…that was dumb…lol. I mean especially if they are Braves fans. It is expensive to park…but worth the security…
Braveheart
June 25th, 2009
1:05 am
I long for the days of Paronto and McBride
Roman Gal
June 25th, 2009
1:06 am
Braveheart-
I do NOT have cankles. But it seems like getting them on bonier places would hurt worse…then again, what do I know?
jeffrey d
June 25th, 2009
1:07 am
Roman Gal – It hurts, yeah….I’ve got 2. But it’s not unbearable, and once you’re done it’ll be well worth it. I’d have more work done if I wasn’t poor
Coach ( 2010 or Bust)
June 25th, 2009
1:07 am
Steve is correct, the manager never calls pitches from the dugout. It was all McCann when the Braves intentionally walked Teixiera to get to A-Rod. So yea, it was all McCann’s fault as to the pitch selection and another Cox defender has revealed his true colors….
Epinephrine
June 25th, 2009
1:07 am
Bennett has to go, I just don’t know who replaces him. But yeah, he’s atrocious.
Steve from OH
June 25th, 2009
1:08 am
skeeter, as far as I’ve read/seen, Mac calls at least most of the game, if not all of it. And I think he’s done a pretty solid job. It’s just another one of Coach’s BS statements trying to tag every team failure on Cox. And I wouldn’t expect anything less of him. Oh well, at least he gets pretty creative about it so I can actually get a laugh every now and then. The hee-haw routine gets old but with Coach…always someting new.
No offense to you man, I’ve just had a very long couple of days…
jeffrey d
June 25th, 2009
1:08 am
It doesn’t matter if it’s fatty or not, it matters if there’s a tendon there (I think…something like that)
Like, I have a band going around my ankle. It hurt A LOT more on the inside of my ankle than the outside.
Roman Gal
June 25th, 2009
1:09 am
I’d have more work done if I wasn’t poor
I’ve got that problem, too.
Roman Gal
June 25th, 2009
1:11 am
Steve-
You should go relax and watch a Disney movie.
Braveheart
June 25th, 2009
1:11 am
RG, I dunno either. Always wussed out when I was young, and am now too old to try to make up for lost youth
Steve from OH
June 25th, 2009
1:13 am
Well, seeing as there was a COACHING VISIT to the mound right before the Tex AB, sure, that can fly. Never once did I see Mac look to the dugout during the A-Rod at-bat, though. So either A) Cox yelled “fastball, Mac” right before that pitch or B) McDowell told Bennett that he’s only allowed to throw fastballs right down the middle (since you accused Cox of calling the location, too). Another Cox hater shows his true colors…
Steve from OH
June 25th, 2009
1:14 am
Nah RG I’ve gotta hit the sack soon so I can get up on my day off tomorrow and work out before I run errands and do some more–guess what–work. Sigh…
Coach ( 2010 or Bust)
June 25th, 2009
1:14 am
Earth to Steve,
I
AM
NOT
THE
ONE
DEFENDING
BOBBY
COX….
YOU ARE.
bravos2249
June 25th, 2009
1:14 am
Roman Gal
I’ve heard the new trend is black light tattoos…they cost more though…but they are neat and it’s something you won’t regret when your 50.
Roman Gal
June 25th, 2009
1:15 am
Coach-
I’m pretty sure that’s they point.
Roman Gal
June 25th, 2009
1:16 am
Steve-
Sounds like a fun day off.
[rolls eyes]
Coach ( 2010 or Bust)
June 25th, 2009
1:16 am
So yea, get some sleep, it’s gonna be a long frustrating season for all of us
Steve from OH
June 25th, 2009
1:17 am
Ok, I’m defending Bobby Cox, sure, whatever, but you’re not defending YOUR statement. Big difference there Plato. But you know, that’s always your typical MO, you can talk the talk but when it comes right down to it you can’t walk the walk.
Night, everyone.
bravos2249
June 25th, 2009
1:18 am
Steve from OH
Either way Mac called 4 straight fastballs…I know you shouldn’t speed a guys bat up…but they could’ve tried something else
Roman Gal
June 25th, 2009
1:19 am
bravos2249-
It would just be a little one, though. Probably not much bigger than my big toenail.
Roman Gal
June 25th, 2009
1:21 am
Always wussed out when I was young, and am now too old to try to make up for lost youth
Braveheart-
Maybe I can make it a present to myself for my 21st birthday.
Coach ( 2010 or Bust)
June 25th, 2009
1:23 am
Nighty night Steve! don’t let the bed bugs bite.
Roman Gal
June 25th, 2009
1:25 am
Either way Mac called 4 straight fastballs…I know you shouldn’t speed a guys bat up…but they could’ve tried something else
Actually, I’m pretty sure the pitch that A-Rod hit was a hanging breaking ball.
joe
June 25th, 2009
1:28 am
I don’t understand why anyone would think Cox or anyone else would call for a fastball down the middle. It was just terrible execution to a great hitter.
Roman Gal
June 25th, 2009
1:29 am
Braveheart-
This is for you!
joe
June 25th, 2009
1:31 am
Came back from dinner hoping to read that Bennett had been unconditionally released and sent to chop ice in Siberia.
joe
June 25th, 2009
1:33 am
Either way Mac called 4 straight fastballs…I know you shouldn’t speed a guys bat up…but they could’ve tried something else
Actually, I’m pretty sure the pitch that A-Rod hit was a hanging breaking ball.
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Bennett throws a breaking ball?
Roman Gal
June 25th, 2009
1:37 am
Bennett throws a breaking ball?
It might’ve been a sinker, but it didn’t look like a fastball to me.
Roman Gal
June 25th, 2009
1:46 am
Bennett throws a breaking ball?
It could’ve been a sinker, but it certainly didn’t look like a fastball to me.
Roman Gal
June 25th, 2009
1:48 am
suuuuure…nooow it shows up.
jeffrey d
June 25th, 2009
1:51 am
You know what I’d like to see? Since Bobby will never be fired, what if he suddenly announced that he was retiring at the end of the season? I think that would definitely fire up this otherwise lifeless team. Might even push the front office to make another deal.
Roman Gal
June 25th, 2009
1:55 am
An LA Columnist on David Justice: “He could give ego lessons to Rickey Henderson.”
Haha…maybe that was part of his charm?
joe
June 25th, 2009
1:58 am
I think the team is fired up, just not executing well on defense. mental lapses. not to mention human run machine jeff bennett. lot of weird things tonight. passed ball by mac. throw down to second that hit jeter. throw down to first that hit cano. mclouth’s drive that fell just short of a 3 run homer. (has he been a beast lately or what?) just a weird game. KK’s painful 1-5-3 putout.
Chop Chop
June 25th, 2009
1:59 am
I like cankles with canklets. They’re just so damn hot and canky to me.
nolie
June 25th, 2009
2:00 am
my dad is a preacher, too (RG)
oh boy, them are the wild ones, preacher’s daughters. Interest quotient just spiked!!
Doc Holiday
June 25th, 2009
2:01 am
From K-Ros this morning, perhaps another outfielder we are looking at adding:
The Brewers’ quest for pitching could lead to renewed talks with the Braves, who in the past have targeted Brewers right fielder Corey Hart. The Braves would need to clear their own right fielder, Jeff Francoeur, before acquiring Hart, and no team is hot after Francoeur.
The problem for the Brewers in trading Hart is their lack of a suitable replacement. Still, the Braves are deep in pitching — and could get even deeper if right-hander Tim Hudson returns from Tommy John surgery in mid-August.
Like Francoeur, Hart is in his first year of arbitration and signed to a similar contract. Surely the Royals would take him if we just sort of gave him away.
The Braves apparently inquired on Hart back in early December at the Winter Meetings, though there is some debate as to whether they did or not. Hart is a somewhat similar player to Francoeur, though he may be realizing more of his potential at this point than our current right fielder.
Doc Holiday
June 25th, 2009
2:03 am
The Braves Kelly Johnson is an albatross in the lineup
Gondeee_tiny by gondeee on Jun 24, 2009 5:01 PM EDT Comment 31 comments
The guys over at Rowland’s Office came up with these pitiful numbers about our second baseman, Kelly Johnson:
20 — Games since Kelly Johnson had an RBI hit.
17 – Games since Kelly got more than one hit in a game.
19 — Games since Kelly got 3 hits in a game.
4 — Hits by Martin Prado in his past 5 at-bats.
4 — Hits by Kelly in his past 35 at-bats.
7 — RBIs for Kelly in the season’s first 7 games.
8 — RBIs for Kelly in his past 26 games.
.203, .297, .138 — Kelly’s batting averages for the months of April, May and June.
2/12 — Kelly’s RBIs and total bases in June.
3/13 — Backup catcher David Ross’s RBIs and total bases in June.
220 — National Leaguers with better on base percentages than Kelly.
Jame Moyer — the person just ahead of Kelly on the NL OBP list.
Guess who’s starting at second tonight?
Yuck. But Bobby Cox just keeps trotting him out there every day hoping he will play his way out of his funk.
bravos2249
June 25th, 2009
2:03 am
Roman Gal
It didn’t look like a fastball but it was clocked at 95 mph
Roman Gal
June 25th, 2009
2:05 am
oh boy, them are the wild ones
That’s what I hear. I’m not wild, just a little crazy.
Roman Gal
June 25th, 2009
2:07 am
2nd Base Situation
This is a very good story about our second base situation.
bravos2249
June 25th, 2009
2:08 am
You know Bobby complained on that call for awhile…either the umps were nice tonight or they knew the effed the call up. Because Bobby usually gets ejected for that stuff.
nolie
June 25th, 2009
2:09 am
t didn’t look like a fastball but it was clocked at 95 mph *Bravos22)
coming in or going out?
bravos2249
June 25th, 2009
2:10 am
Roman Gal
This ain’t Washington or KC…if the braves want to win they need someone better than KJ in the lineup. I’m just saying I could take Kelly or Jeff…but it’s hard having to see both play.
Roman Gal
June 25th, 2009
2:12 am
Despite Johnson’s fervent objection to the call, Cano agreed with Welke, and he didn’t appear to think the play was even that close.
“I know I was fine,” Cano said. “I was running on the baseline. I wasn’t worried.”
You don’t know nothin’, kid.
Roman Gal
June 25th, 2009
2:13 am
bravos2249-
I would take Kelly over Jeff 9 times out of 10. Of course, Frenchy is actually getting some of his hits to fall for him right now…
Doc Holiday
June 25th, 2009
2:14 am
bravos2249,
Thats right, we can be patient with one……..since they “have potential”, but cant be patient with both of them…………so Id suggest the organization to choose their weapon and send the other one packing.
Roman Gal
June 25th, 2009
2:15 am
Chop Chop-
I’m sure there are plenty of cankles readily available.
Doc Holiday
June 25th, 2009
2:17 am
Id also pick KJ since it would be easier to vastly improve what Jeff give us than what KJ gives us.
Chop Chop
June 25th, 2009
2:17 am
Someone should hit Coach upside the head with a spinning cankle kick.
Roman Gal
June 25th, 2009
2:18 am
Someone should hit Coach upside the head with a spinning cankle kick.
Where’s melissa when you need her?
bravos2249
June 25th, 2009
2:20 am
Roman Gal
I would too…but if we could get better stuff out of KJ I’d be for that too. but if it’s just prospects for either than I’d keep KJ.
nolie
June 25th, 2009
2:21 am
This is a very good story about our second base situation. (RG)
I’ve seen that defensive stat on Prado B4 and I don’t for a minute think he is anywhere near that bad a defender. The writer crteams Martin for a stat with a small MLB sample size and then gives KJ a pass on a much bigger sample size saying he was initially an outfielder when in fact he was initially a SS . There is not that much difference in their abilities one way or the other. That closing summation smacks of pushing an agenda to me.
Chop Chop
June 25th, 2009
2:25 am
Kelly Johnson is vastly superior to Martin Prado.
(What’s Kelly getting? $2.825 million? Sure is.)
Kelly Johnson is the greatest second baseman I’ve ever seen.
(I can’t wait for my check.)
Coach ( 2010 or Bust)
June 25th, 2009
2:26 am
No, just drug induce me into a coma until 2010.
Roman Gal
June 25th, 2009
2:27 am
That closing summation smacks of pushing an agenda to me.
…and?
Kidding, kidding. I was mostly talking about the offensive numbers anyways. I know Martin isn’t the best fielder, but he’s not a butcher. I think Kelly has been much, much better this year defensively.
Roman Gal
June 25th, 2009
2:28 am
Coach-
Chop Chop will be glad to cankle-kick you into a coma…
Roman Gal
June 25th, 2009
2:29 am
Good night.
Coach ( 2010 or Bust)
June 25th, 2009
2:35 am
Personally, I’m ready to dance with the Devil, as in talking trade with the Phillies.
I know most Braves fans don’t know who Michael Taylor is but believe you me, he’s a five tool monster just baking away in the Phillies oven. I wouldn’t hesitate to trade Javier Vasquez for Taylor and a package of Philly prospects.
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/48589117.html
nolie
June 25th, 2009
2:40 am
I think Kelly has been much, much better this year defensively. (RG)
yes I think so too, but he has been much worse offensively. I have always supported Prado, but have also always thought that Kelly has more upside on O and that he should start. But even I am beginning to think about changing my opinion on that subject. I sure hope he breaks out while we are still close. Of course Chipper had an entire year where he hit .249-don’t ask me how he managed that-and he bounced back, but he also had a prolonged history of success B4 that happened.
Doc Holiday
June 25th, 2009
2:43 am
I think braves have learned from the past……….running away with division paying lots of money to lots of people just doesnt make sense. Their new approach of things………..let the team dance around half the season and then we will insert the missing piece……….no need to insert it that early and win the division by 10 games……….that will not guarantee you a WS title. even WC would do……….
Braves have a team to compete and beat any team in the league………I mean close to it. It is clear they are just 2 moves away……….getting 1 moderate RBI man……….a guy that will end the season with more than 100 RBI and step 2 would be getting rid of bennett………..that would do. This second step we might be able to complete once JoJo is back………..or campillo………if they ever are.
Doc Holiday
June 25th, 2009
2:46 am
nolie………..Prado just looks more professional, more comfortable at the plate………….the guy looks confident………….he feels he is going to get a hit………..he knows he can help.
KJ and JF have an expression on their faces like………….please god help me………..Im desperate for a hit…………anything would do…………let me get on base on an err.
Doc Holiday
June 25th, 2009
2:48 am
Prado and Infante bring a positive note with them………….KJ and JF bring nothing but stress to this team………..frustration, and we dont need more of that, do we?
bravos2249
June 25th, 2009
2:48 am
Doc Holiday
I agree, but I also don’t want Prado to hurt his groin any more than he has too. And for “our” team to be playing so bad…being only 4 games out in June I believe is the best we’ve been in the last couple of years.
Doc Holiday
June 25th, 2009
2:50 am
bravos2249,
Sure, so why not bring that RBI man……….pay the high price………….moderate price that is.
bravos2249
June 25th, 2009
2:53 am
Doc Holiday
Well I mean he ain’t gotta be no Albert Pujols…but as long as he can
Hit, hit with men on base, play good defense, and drive in runs….then by so means do.
The Braves could get DeRosa for likely 2 minor leaguers or 1 major leaguer. The Cleveland pen sucks….why not try and give them a prospect Bennett and maybe someone else….probably wouldn’t work…lol.
Bennett may suck, but in that BP he’d be good…trust me.
Coach ( 2010 or Bust)
June 25th, 2009
3:05 am
I am in opposition to the Braves trying to add another veteran bat.
For obvious reasons. Our Braves would have to play .600 baseball for the rest of the season and they haven’t done that since 2004. Secondly, the defense isn’t up to par. It must be addressed. Third but not least, the running game is all but non-existent. This is not the way the game of baseball is supposed to be played.
One veteran bat won’t fix this team. Hell, two won’t. It’s like putting a band aid on a bullet wound. The patient is still critical and the bleeding can’t be stopped without major surgery.