2:16 pm June 23, 2009, by David O'Brien
Mike in LA
June 23rd, 200910:35 pm
Has it been mentioned anywhere what Cleveland is looking for in return for Derosa? Medlan would certainly get it done but would be too costly for the Braves in my opinion. How bout Canizares, Kelly Johnson, and Jo-Jo for him? Or one of the lower-level lefty prospects the Braves have? You’ve got to figure that the price couldn’t be that steep for half a year of Derosa. I don’t think the Braves need a superstar as many on year have suggested. Just a good hitter with some pop, and Derosa fills that description. I think most people would be happy with this lineup.
That to me would be lineup with good hitters with gap power who don’t strike out a lot all the way down. That lineup with the Braves pitching would be good enough to get in the postseason
Hanson and McCann got some luv from MLB Network. Can’t say the Braves get dissed all the time by the media.
You’ve got mail
June 23rd, 200910:36 pm
the only reason they are not getting dissed is because they played (and shut out) the yankees
brewdawg you are a damn fool. wow…jo jo reyes
Later all….tuning in to some Netflix.
June 23rd, 200910:37 pm
You were waiting all day to bring out those greatest hits!
cabravesfan – I should warn you – my neighbor is becoming uncomfortably fond of you – he seems kind of scary.
June 23rd, 200910:38 pm
The Braves using the NL East’s “Plan To Beat the Yankees” Day 1: Very good pitching and just enough offense … success!
The opening thought for the hour was that the Yankees lost….Not that we beat them. They changed when they spoke to them.
Just got to enjoy this one. As good as it was there is still room for improvement. Imagine what it will be like when that happens. Hope it continues. Nothing better that when the Braves win and both New York teams lose!
June 23rd, 200910:39 pm
I’m not worried Like I said, your neighbor is a cool guy. I like him (and I have no problems kicking his a** if need be - oh, and I have a very protective Pit Bull at home)
Gil In Mechanicsville
June 23rd, 200910:40 pm
Mike in LA… really? I bet you would expect a great trade in for a Yugo and a Fiat for a new BMW too….
June 23rd, 200910:43 pm
How about Soro?
To win in the playoffs, you need 2 dominant starters and a great closer. A deep rotation helps you little. All those years the Braves missed out on the WS ring, it was the lack of a dominant closer that was the difference.
June 23rd, 200910:44 pm
I hate it when you guys complain that we usually get “dissed” by the national media. I hate to break it to you, but not too many people outside of Atlanta care about the Braves – especially a Braves team that’s struggling to be a .500 team.
Imagine the story…
Welcome to SportsCenter! Our top story – the Atlanta Braves lost 5-4 tonight. The Braves were shafted by a play at the plate, the umps sure blew that one. Bobby Cox continues to make questionable moves, and Terry Pendleton actually taught Jeff Francoeur how NOT to hit before the game. I don’t know about you guys, but I think Frank Wren should try trading Jo Jo Reyes for Jermaine Dye.
We now go to Hannah Storm with an in depth analysis on why Kelly Johnson is awful and not even good enough to play slow pitch softball. Hannah?
I know, I know. But Jo-jo’s “stuff” has always been highly regarded. It’s his head that seems to be the problem. Hanson does not seem to have the same issue. Like I’ve said, not knocking Hanson.
Moylan’s fist pump was probably the best fist pump ever
June 23rd, 200910:45 pm
cabravesfan, 10:36 pm … “the only reason they are not getting dissed is because they played (and shut out) the yankees”
Exactly. The Braves did something, and they get a little respect.
Surely noone thinks you should get respect for letting pop ups drop between your unmoving third baseman and shortstop?
Coach (2010 or Bust)
Back to back shut outs?
This my friends is what I call the ultimate tease. Enjoy the moment.
June 23rd, 200910:46 pm
Well then I’m sure no ones cares about half the teams in baseball seeing as almost all of them are playing around .500
June 23rd, 200910:47 pm
…oh, and LeBron James was arrested for murder, but we’ll have more on that after highlights from the Braves game
Make that majority of the teams in baseball. If on back to back nights 2 of the best teams in baseball leave 9+ runners on base against you…it doesn’t matter if your Pittsburgh or Boston….that’s a damn good job.
Any potent quotables?
June 23rd, 200910:49 pm
cabravesfan & Jim — I just got off the phone with Tom O, and he said “hi”. He also said to say hi to McFann, RHR, nolie, RG ….. and then I stopped him. He can type, I hunt and peck. Then he said, “OK, then say hi to all the bloggers that don’t piss me off”. So Tom says hi to all of you non-piss-him-off’ers.
Well Tex got booed….check
He didn’t K…but was 0-3
He didn’t make an error…damn
June 23rd, 200910:50 pm
We know one thing….David Price ain’t getting no phone call tonight….10 runs….5 earned…
…Enjoy the moment.- coach
I’m enjoying Chief!
What are you doing?
June 23rd, 200910:52 pm
14 straight scoreless for Hanson. He’s allowed 21 baserunners in that span, but we won’t mention that. Oops.
Gil, Wohlers and Rocker weren’t slouches as closers. I also remember a guy named Smoltz who was pretty fair as a closer.
June 23rd, 200910:53 pm
DOB – Just read your after game piece. Question did Soriano get a save tonight? Seems to me that he came in with a 4 run lead and only 3 outs to get.
June 23rd, 200910:54 pm
Totally swamped with work at the moment, so I only got to see pieces of the game (got to hear the McCann blast on the radio at least). Nice win all the way around… seems like Hanson has pitched on the right days so far this season (in terms of getting run support).
“We are the greatest team in the history of the game,” said Braves manager Bobby Cox. “When we take the field, the gods bow before us. It is indeed right and salutary for them to do so.”
“Did you not see me out there, plebeian? I am a living legend,” added Braves RF Jeff Francoeur, who went 0-for-3 with 1 K. “There is no task on a diamond that I cannot master.”
June 23rd, 200910:55 pm
SoWeGa Fanatic – a lot of people don’t let pesky facts get in the way if it hurts their point.
Ouch…he’s gonna be another Houdini.
June 23rd, 200910:56 pm
Jeffry D, when the Bankees were out of the playoffs and 10 games back, they still led the sports talk. Turn on MLB radio on XM, and it’s Yanks and Red Sox about 75% of the time, regardles of their positions in the standings.
June 23rd, 200910:57 pm
if true, why did you not tell him to get his butt on the blog? I miss him
Gil, what do you think it would cost for half a season of Derosa? Look at what the Braves gave up for 3 cheap years of Mcclouth who to me is a five tool guy coming off of an all star season. They gave up Morton, whose minor league numbers were unimpressive before 08 and wasn’t going to be able to crack the rotation for the Braves, Gorkys whose a talented outfielder without any power, and Locke who gets lit up on a nightly basis. You got to figure that half a season of Derosa won’t come anywhere near the return of three cheap years of Mcclouth. Canizares is having a terrific year in Gwinnett. Got to figure that he would have some value. As would someone like Cole Rohrbough or the pitcher the Braves got from the Angels, can’t remember his name. My point is that the Braves can get a productive bat for half of a season without giving up any of the untouchable prospects or the borderline untouchables like Medlan.
“Why does everyone get there panties in a wad when the Yankees are in town?” asked Braves pitcher Derek Lowe.
Medlen sits, waits. …“We haven’t forgotten him,” Cox said.
Anyone else think Bobby was like…who? lol
June 23rd, 200910:58 pm
In tonight’s South Atlantic League all-star game. Zeke Spruill received the nod as the starter and pitched an inning allowing a bloop single and a walk and struck out a batter. J. J. Hoover pitched the 4th inning striking out 2 batters on his way to retiring the side in order. Luis Sumoza didn’t start, but collected a single in 2 at-bats. Jesus Sucre was the last catcher used and he recorded a single in his only at-bat. Pretty good night for the Rome Braves in the SALLY League All-Star Game.
bravos – But people on here talk like ESPN has something AGAINST the Braves because they don’t show highlights that we think are important. Like Stuart Scott and Scott Van Pelt are sitting in the breakroom chuckling over how they shafted us on the broadcast. And they’re probably throwing darts at a big poster of DOB’s head with a red X over it
June 23rd, 200911:00 pm
SoWeGa – check out our stands over the next few days…it’s gonna be littered with Yankees, Red Sox, and Cubs fans (well, yesterday it was). That’s because these teams have a nation-wide fanbase. Hence, they garner a lot more interest. Hence, they have a lot more air time. Not saying I’m a fan of it, just pointing out why
June 23rd, 200911:01 pm
Tommy Hanson – 4 starts, 4 team wins – the only stats I care about.
June 23rd, 200911:02 pm
cabravesfan— “if true”???? Not sure what you mean by that. He’s doesn’t have any access to the internet. He doesn’t even have access to a phone. I’ve been down there (Shinhopple), and will be going down again in July. To use a cell phone, you have to drive about 7 miles up this mountain. Then you have access to a cell tower in Walton.
Does a pitcher pitch to the score? Does he get wins? That’s all I look for in a pitcher.
Well I’ll just let you know that if I ever complain it’s not that reason. I only get mad if they don’t say something about how good a starter was or the fact that the other team “got beat” and didn’t lose. It doesn’t matter if it’s ESPN,FOX, PTV, or a website. I don’t think they have anything against them. But yesterday a headliner on one website said something about Javy didn’t pitch well last night, and his first quote was…”I threw great tonight.”….lol
June 23rd, 200911:03 pm
Speaking of Netflix — If any of you folks want a break from the action stuff, check out “Station Agent.” One of the best unknowns I’ve seen in years. You can thank me later.
June 23rd, 200911:05 pm
jeffrey d, I understand the why – huge markets, but I don’t have to like it. Irregardless, no talking head should make excuses for a losing team simply because more people live in that market.
forgive me for sounding sceptical- with all the BS that flys around the blog it’s hard to know when someone is telling the truth
June 23rd, 200911:06 pm
Back when ESPN was the only national outlet for baseball highlights and scores, I remember waiting, and waiting, and waiting, for a 10 second snippet on the Bravos, even when the Braves were on their 14 consecutive division title streak. I suspect there was some ESPN versus TBS competition for market share.
With the internet and now MLB Network, ESPN is no longer relevant. I haven’t switched it on this year.
June 23rd, 200911:08 pm
Bear – relay my thanks to Tom, for driving hundreds of miles to send greetings – tell him I’m standing in for him in his absence, and we look forward to seeing him this winter when it’s time to hibernate.
The Carolina/California league all star game is underway. Jason Heyward isn’t starting. I assume because he’s missed time due to injury. Freddie Freeman didn’t make the team. Cody Johnson is DHing and struck out in his first at bat (he’s never done that before).
June 23rd, 200911:10 pm
It’s sad to hear that nobody outside of Atlanta cares about this team anymore. The day Turner Broadcasting was sold to Time Warner was one of the worst days of my life, in retrospect. It cost us years of great TBS baseball. I now have to beg my local TW to carry Peachtree here in North Carolina, and of course, no HD and really strange, no commercials. Man, it was great when you could travel to any town in America and still watch the Braves. I remember watching the great comeback in 91 from a hotel room in Rapid City. That’s the one where we came back to score six runs in the ninth to win. David Justice hit a homer to win the game. That was Braves baseball on TBS. Man, I miss it. Man, I miss Skip Caray and the Professor and Don Sutton. It just ain’t the same anymore. It sucks. It really sucks.
June 23rd, 200911:11 pm
Good night, boys and girls.
Mixxo, our pitching is playoff caliber, the rest of this team isn’t.
But unlike the rest of the blog, I’m dreading the inevitable letdown. Two game winning streaks won’t pique my interest. Get back to me when and if this team ever wins four or five in a row
June 23rd, 200911:13 pm
So Coach…cup’s half full, is it?
June 23rd, 2009
“MLB Network is as bias as ESPN…the Braves didn’t win and the Braves didn’t get off to a good start in the series…the Yankees lost and the Yankees got off to a poor start to the series…will it ever end?”
Heath, I would say that the Yankees did suck pretty hard tonight but you know, I’ll take it. That doesn’t surprise me and I’m usually the one leading the charge on that issue but for once, I’ll just take the win and not worry about it.
meant no disrespect- relay my greetings to Tom as well if you talk to him again (and thanks to you as well)
June 23rd, 200911:14 pm
As you can imagine, a pleased clubhouse (though most of the guys were slow coming out because they were watching the Texas-LSU game in the players’ dining room.
Everybody praised Hanson’s bend-don’t-break act, his mental toughness, but perhaps even more praise was directed at the back end of the bullpen.
“Can’t say enough about the back of our bullpen,” said McCann, who praised Hanson’s gutty performance and called him a “special, special player.”
Bobby Cox: “Tommy would bend a little bit, then he would get out of it. That’s a sign of a pretty good pitcher, to get in those situations and you don’t panic.”
Hanson said he knows why his command’s not pinpoint like it’s always been in the minors, and he said he’s not concerned because it’s just a matter of slowing down and getting comfortable. He was pumped up to face the Yankees tonight.
“I made some good pitches, and some not-so-good. It was definitely a battle the whole game, and I’m glad to get out of there with a win….
“The walks are something I’ve never really experienced before,” said Hanson, known for pinpoint control in the minors. “I know what I’m doing wrong, and I’ve just got to correct it and slow myself down.”
June 23rd, 200911:15 pm
John Kruk just said “The bottom line is, a win goes in the column when Livan Hernandez pitches”. I laughed so hard I threw up. Then threw up again because I threw up. And started laughing again because I just threw up because I threw up. Then I remembered why I threw up, because I was laughing. Then I remembered why I was laughing, because Kruk said “The bottom line is, a win goes in the column when Livan Hernandez pitches”. And I again started laughing so hard that I threw up.
June 23rd, 200911:17 pm
What’s up with the name? It’s bizarre. My nickname is Mizzo but I can’t bring myself to change my screen name. If I had it to do over again I would which is what makes seeing somebody who calls themself “Mixxo” all the more unusual. I guess.
McCann on the thousands of Yankee fans cheering tonight: “We knew what was it was going to be like. It’s good to play in that atmosphere. It’s like a playoff atmosphere.”
And on the team’s performance the past couple of nights, he said they’ve played good baseball going back to the Boston series, even though they only won one of those games.
He indicated they need to not let up, not take anything for granted, not act as though they’ve turned a corner or whatever.
“We’ve just got to continue to do it,” he said. “Because we’ve been here before and then tailed off.”
Yunel's Frosted Tips
June 23rd, 200911:18 pm
Does Joe Simpson have adjoining rooms with Franceour and Johnson on the road?
June 23rd, 200911:19 pm
Thanks DOB for the quotes.
Yeah, you have a point, I understand. Tom turned me onto the blog, quite awhile ago. I don’t post too much, but I do read it — so I know what you mean. Tom and I met a long time ago, playing ball. We both loved the Braves and the Packers. Unusual for growing up in upstate NY. I now consider him my best friend.
I caught my wife cheating on me with a guy from her work. I threw her out. Of course, at the divorce trial, the judge threw me out and gave her the house. Now I’m at ma’s. I asked Tom if I could move into his house (he owns a big 2 apartment house), but he said “no”. I can’t blame him, his downstairs flat is half storage and half gym. He said he likes to play loud music and sometimes jam, when he pleases, and can’t do that if someone else has to be considered. However, he said he’ll be living in his rented place, in the Mts., most of the summer, and I can stay here while he’s gone. As a matter of fact, he encouraged it. (Rather have someone here to keep an eye on the place) I’m in his house and using his computer as we speak.
June 23rd, 200911:21 pm
There’s no question that Hanson is definitely not another Chucky James or Kyle Davies. His demeanor and mentality to go with his stuff is getting him wins and that’s with the conrtrol problems. How many times have we see veteran pitchers, much less a rookie, lose control during a game and the other team is quickly up by a touchdown? Not this kid.
Liked Jeter giving Hanson that look after he walked like, “good battle”. I don’t like Jeter because he’s a Yankee but he’s a future HOF and he gave Hanson a look back of respect.
June 23rd, 200911:22 pm
cabravesfan – I need to move along – plus, Larry David is on with my fellow W&M alum, Jon Stewart. Have a great night, and thanks for my neighbor’s b-day wishes.
June 23rd, 200911:23 pm
Everybody needs to relax. KK’s gonna come out tomorrow and kick some Yankee ass.
The Yankees suck by the way. How they didn’t light up the scoreboard after Yunel and Chipper’s tomfoolery is beyond human comprehension. Those two could join the circus.
Just relax. We’ve played well against better teams all year so there’s nothing to really be surprised about. Going for the series victory tomorrow and I have a good feeling we’re going to get it.
I know we won but there’s still DANGER WILL ROBINSON…
How many outs were there for all of our runs tonight?
We cannot survive long-term unless the lineup hits consistently with less than 2 out. We will not get shutouts every night.
Mark my word.
June 23rd, 200911:24 pm
I’m with you Space Monkey. Nothing against any of the guys calling the games now, but a lifetime of listening to Skip and Pete is hard to let go of.
June 23rd, 200911:26 pm
was just about to respond to the e-mail Agree with every word, by the way (even the one you don’t often use )- Good night, happy wishes and hope to talk to you soon!
June 23rd, 200911:28 pm
Nothing very complicated or “thought-out” really. I mix “live” sound (music) and it’s a take-off on one of my email addys.
Bizarre? Perhaps, but I’m kinda wacky anyway, so apropos I suppose.
June 23rd, 200911:30 pm
I figured if he hadn’t been washed away he’d be off bonding with nature Poor guy leads a rough life, huh? Anyways, please do send him my…thoughts and tell him to find a computer!
DOB thank you for the comments from McCann. That dude really gets it and I like his attitude.
Moylan on pumping his fist a little after the Jeter double play:
“I pumped my arm a little bit, looked a little like a douche,” he said, smiling. “But we’ll worry about that tomorrow.”
“We pitched great, hit great, and did what it took to win.”
Then I asked him again about the arm pump.
“It was a mixture of a Jonathan Papelbon and K-Rod, I guess,” he said.
June 23rd, 200911:32 pm
If Moylan keeps this up we might lead MLB in quality starts when it’s all over — maybe even with a losing record!
On the subject of Tommy Hanson.
His performance tonight was more of a mix of Houdini and raw talent than pitching. Notice this: ALL of his walks came with runners on base. He is having some kind of mechanical breakdown pitching from the stretch. Hanson is commanding his fastball but the breaking stuff needs work. I think he might be working just a tad bit to fast.
The Yankee’s ran with absolute abandon tonight, stealing four bases. Hanson does not do a good job of holding runners on, nor is his pick off move all that impressive. He’s getting by for the moment but believe you me, the opposing scouts will catch up.
June 23rd, 200911:36 pm
I was supposed to give you another message from Tom, if you were on the blog. But the reception wasn’t the greatest, and my notes are even worse. To paraphrase, to the best of my recollection, it was something like “keep a close eye on our lady, but not too close”.
“It’s sad to hear that nobody outside of Atlanta cares about this team anymore”
I’m from upstate NY, talking in behalf of another Braves fan from upstate NY, and I’ve been talking to another Braves fan from Ca. You do realize that upstate NY and California aren’t in Atlanta, don’t you?
Canadaian braves fan
June 23rd, 200911:38 pm
new blog up at http://www.newblogofbraves.blogspot.com
please check it out, its a school project
DOB great job on the quotes and your work in general
MINOR LEAGUE REPORT:
Opening day for Danville and the Gulf Coast Braves…
Gulf Coast lost 9-8…the 5 errors seemed to do them in.
Alot of guys who were in the Dominican League last year are on the team so honestly I don’t know too much about them. Kyle Rose, our 8th round pick(I think) this year, is there starting in CF and he went 0-2.
The top prospect, at least in terms of position prospects, is C Christian Betancourt. We signed him last year out of Panama to a pretty good bonus. He’s ONLY 17 so watch out for him. He went 1-4 2B, BB, RBI on opening day.
Danville, on the other hand, was really impressive winning 8-3. Julio Teheran, an 18 year old pitcher who’s one of the Braves’ top prospects, started and gave up 2 ER on 5 H in 3.1 UP. He walked none, struck out 5, hit 3 guys, and picked off a guy. There’s a lot of hype around him but I don’t know how high you can rate a guy who has had arm issues already and hasn’t been too successful in pro ball. The stuff is there though…we’ll se eif he puts it together.
It’s the prospects who really shined in the game. 4th Round pick Mycal Jones went 3-6 with 4 RBI’s and was a HR short of the cycle. 5th Round Pick Robert Hefflinger went 2-5 with an RBI. 17ish Round Pick Riaan Spanjer-Furstenberg went 2-2 HR, 2 RBI, BB. One of the mid-round picks this year, Casey Masters threw 3 2/3 hitless, scoreless inning and struck out 8.
A kid drafted last year and was shut down due to an injury, Adam Milligan, made his professional debut as well and went 3-6, 2B, RS.Braves have drafted him twice so they really like himm.
TG from CA
Jeffrey D – I thought that was pretty funny. Great stuff!
June 23rd, 200911:42 pm
“I pumped my arm a little bit, looked a little like a douche,”
Awesome. I love the Aussie
Hey- if he’s going to spend all summer in the mountains…
I think it’s safe to say at least a third of the people on the blog are NOT from Atlanta, or even Georgia…I’m sure not and I care about the Braves a lot- maybe too much
June 23rd, 200911:43 pm
Who came up with calling someone a cleaning product for a woman? It does sound funny just sayin it though…I’m saying right now.
June 23rd, 200911:45 pm
Don’t know but speaking from a woman’s point of view- that comment totally cracked me up
Youll rue the day you crossed me Trebek!
June 23rd, 200911:47 pm
Ill have “Presidents on the dollar bill” for 400 Alex
I failed in my attempt to ruin 5 Yankee Fans outfits…
I am a failure.
June 23rd, 200911:48 pm
McFann, Got your 2B tonight. I got my HR. Pretty good night huh? Now if we can work on his throwing…
My little nagging perspective. Hanson is working to much. Thowing to many pitches. I love the make up and the poise. McCann or Ross needs to tell him that he has arrived. He is a MLB pitcher, and he won’t be going back to Gwinnet any time soon. Just relax. If he gets the pitch count down this season, he will win ROY. He has it all. And Yes I agree with who said the difference between him, Davies, Reyes and etc was between the ears is right. He has the “IT” Factor. The stuff of Maddux, Glavine, and Smoltzie. The stuff noone can explain. Great job tonight, great win. ATL could have done things better, but what they have done tonight and the Redsox series is fight, and show some life. About time, the Braves have a pulse. They know they are going to have to scratch and claw for every win. This will only make them better in the years to come.
June 23rd, 200911:49 pm
moylan was probably the player of the game. faced four hitters and got five outs.
after the jeter dp he got swisher, tex and a-rod in order in the seventh. nice job mate.
That is truly a disappointment! Heels, stairs and beer is all you need (of course you are too young to drink, right? )
June 23rd, 200911:51 pm
cabravesfan— if you prefer, you can call me Ed. Bear is an old nick-name.
you said, ” tell him to find a computer”. He can find the best computer in the world, there’s just no access. I guess via satellite, would be the only way.
You also said, “Hey- if he’s going to spend all summer in the mountains…” I’ve been down there, it’s to die for. He works his butt off all year so that he can do that in the summer. As he has said, “it’s a slice of heaven”. I can’t disagree.
June 23rd, 200911:56 pm
All this beer talk is making me want a brewsky. Should go grab an Anderson Boont Amber Ale in memory of GA’s hit tonight…love that stuff.
Hey McFann, I know you are just elated. McCann got you a double and topped off with one out of here. Enjoy!!
June 23rd, 200911:59 pm
Is there anything Randy Johnson can’t do? According to yahoo, he has -2 blown saves.
June 24th, 200912:01 am
I actually like “Bear” if it’s all the same Hey- I’ve got a place in the Sierras…we manage internet and regular phones but cell service is highly sketchy (and the internet is not the most reliable)
I agree that it is heaven- he sent a link to the satellite photos- it’s beautiful. And he’ll know I’m joking (at least I hope he does )- I just enjoy our late night chats and I’ll miss him
June 24th, 200912:07 am
Another great night at the Ted. It would be a darn shame if that Gonzalez/Soriano tandem are never given a chance to shine in October together. That’s some Rivera/Wetteland ‘96 magic going on there.
June 24th, 200912:08 am
June 24th, 200912:09 am
As I said before, I don’t post much, but I do read. At least when I can. When there are any posts, concerning Tom, I obviously pay more attention.
These posts are permanent, and I have to watch what I say because he may see them (and he’s letting me stay here until I find a place). But from his adamant request, on his phone call, I believe he enjoys your late night chats, as well.
NO MORE BOBBY
June 24th, 200912:10 am
When was the last non playoff sell out at Turner?
June 24th, 200912:12 am
Just out of curiosity, how do you link to the internet, when in the Sierra’s?
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