Hanson vs. Yanks at Turner

  Now it begins in earnest, the homestand that could feel a bit like a road trip against the AL East superpowers. Six games against the Yankees and Red Sox at Turner Field, beginning with tonight’s series opener against the damn Yankees.
   While there’s nothing the Braves can do about the tens of thousands of Yankees and BoSox fans who’ll infiltrate Turner Field — nothing except count the money they’re spending, which sure helps the bottom line — there is one thing they can do to keep the opposing teams’ crowd noise to a minimum. And that’s win.
   Yes, if the Braves just play well, jump out in front early and don’t the Yankees and Red Sox fans anything to get too pumped about, well, then it’ll feel like a homestand. So stop complaining about the opposing fans and silence them.
  Yes, that’s perhaps easier said than done, particularly against the Red Sox. But it’s not as if the Yankees are some winning machine that’s coming in on a roll. Tommy Hanson and other young Braves need to forget about the uni, just view the Yankees as a team that’s 6-9 with a .240 batting average in its past 15 games, including losses the past two days at Florida.
  Take them out of that bandbox in the Bronx, and they’re not nearly the same power-hitting lineup. They haven’t hit a homer in four of their seven road games this month, but they have seven multi-homer games in 12 home games this month.
  By the way, the Braves are 9-10 against the Yankees in the all-time interleague series. They last played them in Atlanta in 2000, and the teams split six games at Yankee Stadium since then, in series during the 2001 and 2006 seasons.
  Chipper Jones has always enjoyed hitting against the Yankees, and has a .355 career average with five homers, 17 RBIs and a 1.050 OPS in 19 regular-season games against them.
  Longtime former American Leaguer Garret Anderson has a .322 average and 15 homers in 119 games (487 at-bats) against the Yankees.

 ♣ Tradition-rich foes: If the Braves hadn’t blown that game Sunday at Boston, they would’ve had a rare opportunity to pull off an unusual feat — beat the Red Sox, Cubs and Yankees in a three-day span. But they did blow that game Sunday, and were shut out Saturday by Josh Beckett.
  So they would have to settle for beating all three of those tradition-rich franchises in a five-day span (they won Friday’s series opener at Boston).
  After beating the Red Sox and since-DL’d starter Daisuke “Dice-K” Matsuzaka on Friday, and winning last night’s makeup against the Cubs behind another well-pitched game by Javier Vazquez, the Braves and Hanson face a pitcher tonight who’s been even worse this season than Dice-K.
  If only Chin-Ming Wang were a notorious headhunting pitcher, then he could be “Chin-Music” Wang. How cool would that be? Alas, he’s just a bad pitcher. At least, he has been bad for the past year or so. Really, really bad.
  Wang is 0-5 with a 12.30 ERA in nine games (six starts) this season, with a .410 average and six homers allowed in 26-1/3 innings. Seriously, that’s bad, and get this: As a starter, he’s 0-5 with a 16.69 ERA.
  It’s a little hard to believe a team with the Yankees’ payroll would have a starter with those numbers toeing the slab in mid-June, but they do.

  Wang hadn’t made it through the fifth inning in any start this season until his last one on Wednesday against Washington, when he gave up three runs and six hits in five innings, far and away his best start of the season.
  Going back to late May 2008, Chin Music is 2-5 with an 8.73 ERA in his past 14 games (11 starts), with a .357 opponents’ average and not many fewer walks (27) than strikeouts (36) in 54-2/3 innings.

  This could also bode well for the Braves: His .410 opponents’ average this season includes a .457 mark (32-for-70) by lefty hitters, who have a .519 OBP and .771 slugging percentage against him, including 13 extra-base hits. With runners in scoring position, he’s allowed a .455 average (20-for-44). On the other hand, Wang pitched well in his only start against the Braves in 2006 — eight innings, two runs and seven hits with one walk. He didn’t get a decision in the Yankees win.

 ♣ Coming around: While Jeff Francoeur and Kelly Johnson continue to struggle, leadoff man Nate McLouth and the previously moribund Anderson have come around lately, with Anderson finally giving the Braves some decent production from a bottom half of the order that’s been terrible this season.
 • McLouth is 8-for-21 with two homers and eight RBI in his past five games, and Anderson is 8-for-14 with two doubles and five RBI in his past four games.
 • Going back to the end of May, Anderson has hit .328 (20-for-61) with three homers and 12 RBI in his past 18 games, with a .364 OBP and .508 slugging percentage. That’s the kind of production the Braves expected from the veteran.
 Now if he could find a similar spark in his, well, sometimes lackluster defense.

 ♣ Speaking of 2B… Johnson has hit .145 (9-for-62) with two RBIs and a .444 OPS (.194 slugging) in his past 18 games, sinking his season average to .225 with a .297 OBP and .378 slugging percentage.
  While the Braves are disappointed that Jeff Francoeur hasn’t snapped back from his poor 2008 season, it could be argued that Johnson has been even more disappointing, because he finished 2008 with a sizzling September, hit .287 with a .349 OPB, and seemed poised to take his game to another level in his third full season at 2B, or at least back to his .2007 level (.375 OBP, .831 OPS).
  With 69 games down and 93 to go, he’s got time to go on a couple of the extended tears that he’s known for. But he’d better not wait much longer, because Bobby Cox’s famed patience has begun to wear thin.  Johnson’s playing time could be further diminished after Omar Infante returns at some point after the All-Star break, giving them a steady backup infielder to go with Martin Prado.

  • Speaking of … Prado has hit .368 (14-for-38) with three doubles, a homer and a .941 OPS in his past 13 games, despite playing recently on a strained groin that has to be wrapped tightly for every game.

  ♣ Diversions: Rented a movie last night that most of you will love, I’m sure. It’s called What Doesn’t Kill You, starring the always-great Mark Ruffalo, a surprisingly strong Ethan Hawke, and the gorgeous Amanda Peet. Based on a true story of two best friends, Irish tough guys who grow up poor in South Boston, doing petty crimes that turn more serious and end up landing both in prison. First film directed by actor Brian Goodman, a Southie (South Boston native) who did prison time himself. If the premise doesn’t sound original, the movie is. Gritty story, great acting, and I can’t believe it didn’t get wider release and box-office success. Something to do with the production company, from what I read when I first heard about the movie.

 OK, let’s wrap it up. Whenever I’m asked about the music that hitters choose to have played when they come to the plate, I tell people I can’t believe no one uses the first chords of this great Cash tune.

“FOLSON PRISON BLUES” by Johnny Cash
I hear the train a comin’
It’s rolling round the bend
And I ain’t seen the sunshine since I don’t know when,
I’m stuck in Folsom prison, and time keeps draggin’ on
But that train keeps a rollin’ on down to San Antone

When I was just a baby my mama told me, Son,
Always be a good boy, don’t ever play with guns
But I shot a man in Reno just to watch him die
When I hear that whistle blowing, I hang my head and cry

I bet there’s rich folks eating in a fancy dining car
They’re probably drinkin’ coffee and smoking big cigars.
Well I know I had it coming, I know I can’t be free
But those people keep a movin’
And that’s what tortures me

Well if they freed me from this prison,
If that railroad train was mine
I bet I’d move it on a little farther down the line
Far from Folsom prison, that’s where I want to stay
And I’d let that lonesome whistle blow my blues away

 

 

 

2,107 comments Add your comment

pryguy

June 23rd, 2009
2:20 pm

pryguy

June 23rd, 2009
2:20 pm

Tomahawkin,

Good point at 1:55 from the previous blog. Living in Philly and attending Phillies games whenever they play the Braves or whenever I feel like putting up with their ignorant fans, I’ve realized they appeal to my age group (20-30 year olds) quite well. Tailgating is quite popular around these parts for Phillies games, and they cater to the college/young professional crowd as well as the family crowd. Never been to the Ted, but I could understand what you mean by appealing to certain crowds, and the Phillies do well with the atmosphere in and out of the stadium. Different way of following sports up here is what I presume. Intense fans who are pretty irrational and stupid for the most part, but dedicated to attending games nonetheless. That can be a whole other argument. I digress living up North my entire life, not really understanding the way of life down south with ya’ll.

McLouth of the South

June 23rd, 2009
2:22 pm

♣ Coming around: While Jeff Francoeur and Kelly Johnson continue to struggle,

Why must you say these things DOB? WHY?

Don’t you know the frenchy flames fan themselves?

Wayne in Utah

June 23rd, 2009
2:24 pm

Great song and good report on the upcoming series. If we don’t light up Ming-Wang, then shame on the Braves.

Handsome Hanson

June 23rd, 2009
2:24 pm

There he is! nice pic!

RHR, don’t be scared

McFann :Ô:

June 23rd, 2009
2:25 pm

Thanks for the new Blog, Chief!

OK, here’s a Q for the denizens: With Tommy Hanson pitching tonight, who is gonna catch??

joe(shoyo wang)

June 23rd, 2009
2:25 pm

Play Prado Permanently!

cphizzle

June 23rd, 2009
2:25 pm

DOB you are the one who fuels the bashing francouer fire on this blog! now it makes sense as to why thats all this blog consist of, its all on you!

Wayne in Utah

June 23rd, 2009
2:26 pm

Tonight could be the beginning of Hanson taking his place at or near the top of the Braves rotation. Now, if we could just get Jeff to hit with some authority!!

joe(shoyo wang)

June 23rd, 2009
2:26 pm

frenchy’s flames— good idea for a fan section in right field

pryguy

June 23rd, 2009
2:27 pm

McFann,

McCann…Definitely! Can’t see him going tonight, after his night last night. Lefties rake against this dude.

cabravesfan

June 23rd, 2009
2:27 pm

What a great song :) Man, I love Johnny Cash!

joe(shoyo wang)

June 23rd, 2009
2:27 pm

i think frenchy will flame one out to left field seats tonight. wishful thinking.

McLouth of the South

June 23rd, 2009
2:27 pm

Y’know McFann, I think I’d like to see Diaz get a shot back there…

cabravesfan

June 23rd, 2009
2:28 pm

McFann-

Unless Mac’s knee fell off at some point during the night there is no way he doesn’t catch…you did see Wang’s numbers against lefties, right ;)

Tomahawkin

June 23rd, 2009
2:29 pm

From the Last Blog…

Pryguy…

Tomahawkin,

Good point at 1:55. Living in Philly and attending Phillies games whenever they play the Braves or whenever I feel like putting up with their ignorant fans, I’ve realized they appeal to my age group (20-30 year olds) quite well. Tailgating is quite popular around these parts for Phillies games, and they cater to the college/young professional crowd as well as the family crowd. Never been to the Ted, but I could understand what you mean by appealing to certain crowds, and the Phillies do well with the atmosphere in and out of the stadium. Different way of following sports up here is what I presume. Intense fans who are pretty irrational and stupid for the most part, but dedicated to attending games nonetheless. That can be a whole other argument. I digress living up North my entire life, not really understanding the way of life down south with ya’ll.”

Philles Fans are living the Spur of the Moment Plus there is no SEC Football Experience. You Can’t Tell Me That the PSU games Can tough The SEC…?

Paul Lentz

June 23rd, 2009
2:29 pm

Jeff Francoeur must have some serious blackmail on Bobby Cox.

joe(shoyo wang)

June 23rd, 2009
2:30 pm

maybe we can get some kids to sit in RF seats all wearing shirts that say: Frenchys Minor Leaguers.

Tomahawkin

June 23rd, 2009
2:31 pm

Mcfann…

B-Macc Better Be catching we are gonna need his Bat all week!!!

The lineup is already bad as it is (No Knock on B-Macc). The Lineup without B-Macc Is putrid and that is an understatement

TBrown

June 23rd, 2009
2:32 pm

Frenchys Minor Leaguers..thats good stuff joe

Tomahawkin

June 23rd, 2009
2:33 pm

Aight You Guys I want Matty-D in there at Right…The Bankee Pitchers Don’t know this Dude and his tendencys…

I don’t care If Francine Has been Hot! He’s been a Singles hitter for the Month who still isn’t clutch…

Heath (Cleveland)

June 23rd, 2009
2:34 pm

Oh…and just because there is a new blog, doesn’t mean we forget the word of the day. As a reminder: succint

:grin:

rob from sc

June 23rd, 2009
2:34 pm

After looking over the minor league stats, it doesn’t look like Eric Campbell is going to be the long term answer at third base.

LT200

June 23rd, 2009
2:35 pm

I think Wang is just what the doctor ordered. Here is the chance to get the O on a roll and light a fire under the whole team. Go Braves!!

pryguy

June 23rd, 2009
2:37 pm

Tomahawkin,

Never been to an SEC game….but I will say PSU is pretty pretty cool experience.

Wayne in Utah

June 23rd, 2009
2:37 pm

rob from sc

I really don’t see anybody in our minors that stands out at either third or second.

Your idea last night to get Brandon Wood was a great idea, although I would be extremely surprised if we could come up with enough to get him.

red sox

June 23rd, 2009
2:38 pm

“Rob Biertempfel of the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review says Neal Huntington is trying to build a young, athletic, defensive-minded outfield around Andrew McCutchen in Pittsburgh.”

and then promptly trade him.

joe(shoyo wang)

June 23rd, 2009
2:39 pm

who is brandon wood?

oldmike

June 23rd, 2009
2:40 pm

DOB- I knop I asked this before but- doesn’t Francoeur’s LONG struggles at least give some credence to the poor vision argument? He is lost most times up there.

McLouth of the South

June 23rd, 2009
2:40 pm

Frenchy’s Flailers?

F’in Francoeurs?

Jeff and Cate plus 8?

Heath (Cleveland)

June 23rd, 2009
2:41 pm

*sigh*

Two tenants just called… I need to go look at a refrigerator and a hot water tank. Ahhh, the joys of being a landlord. Anyone want to come help me? :?:

rob from sc

June 23rd, 2009
2:41 pm

pryguy

My sister graduated from Penn State. She loved it there. She was there the same time as Lavar Arrington.

Ramblin Wrecker

June 23rd, 2009
2:41 pm

DOB,

Has anyone asked Bobby Cox why he hasn’t allowed Martin Prado a chance at the everyday 2B job? Is it the groin injury?

Every time I see him play it seems he hits a HR or a 2B. And he has a nice approach at the plate.

McFann :Ô:

June 23rd, 2009
2:42 pm

pryguy, cabravesfan, Tomahawkin

Reason I asked was ’cause Tommy did so well in his last start, which Ross caught. But I think you guys (and girl ;) ) are right–hu, unless BMac woke up really sore…I think if he could finish the game last night, he should be OK to go today.

I haven’t seen Wang’s numbers against lefties, but I’ve heard rumors…

McLouth of the South

Careful what you wish for! ;)

cabravesfan

June 23rd, 2009
2:43 pm

I don’t normally do this but with so many people interested in big minor league stats I decided to give it a try…
Check out these minor league numbers: (What would you say if you saw them? Good, not anything special…)
G 308
AB 1091
R 122
H 301
2B 87
3B 5
HR 36
RBI 176
BB 93
SO 178
AVG .276
OBP .335
SLG .464
OPS .799

Heath (Cleveland)

June 23rd, 2009
2:43 pm

…the worse part…the one hot…and I mean HOT chick moved out. :cry:

AndyC

June 23rd, 2009
2:44 pm

So stop complaining about the opposing fans and silence them. – DOB

To be honest, the Braves led the Cubbies the entire game last night and they scored 0 runs but the Cub fans were still very loud so I don’t think getting ahead of them has much to do with it unless it’s a blow out.

McLouth of the South

June 23rd, 2009
2:45 pm

We also welcome other RF fan sections:

Peter Paul’s Peters

Lentz’s Blintzes

Paulbob’s Handsinthepants

and, last but not least…

The “I kicked Paul Lentz’s ass” Facebook group! 25,000 members strong!

cabravesfan

June 23rd, 2009
2:46 pm

McFann-

DOB posted Wang’s numbers against lefties:

.457 mark (32-for-70) by lefty hitters, who have a .519 OBP and .771 slugging percentage against him, including 13 extra-base hits.

No way Mac’s missing this one :)

Jonathon

June 23rd, 2009
2:46 pm

Man, I am sick of hearing how “tradition rich” the Cubs, Red Sox and Yankees are. Newsflash – THE BRAVES ARE A TRADITION RICH FRANCHISE.

McFann :Ô:

June 23rd, 2009
2:47 pm

cabravesfan

Huh…don’t know how I missed that! (Sorry, Chief!)

Oh yeah…BMac’s gotta be in there!

ryan c

June 23rd, 2009
2:50 pm

i dont post much, so i am going to re-post my response to our fan base from the end of the last thread:

atlanta is a melting pot of many cities all over the country, so the fan base is not as strong as many other cities. plus, turner field has absolutely no “walk up attendance” so there arent many “spur of the moment” fans. atlanta’s fan enthusiasm and attendance have been just average for quite some time. i blame it on 2 things:
1. the inability to win the big show. 1 world series in 14 straight division winning years is not going to sit well with the fan base. in lesser words, braves fans got bored with being good but not great.

2. no high profile players. even though i hate john rocker, he was a reason to go to a game because he caused a spark. the braves relaxed fanbase is a reflection of the relaxed clubhouse. the braves need a little chili powder in their melting pot. solution: instead of signing a guy that “fits” in the clubhouse, sign a big name that doesnt fit into the clubhouse. heck, it might put a few extra butts in the stands and give the fans something to get pumped up about. the last risky signing we had as far as “attitude” is concerned was gary sheffield. sheffield put up great numbers here and probably helped sell some tickets along the way. the term “clubhouse cancer” is overworked and good teams deal with controversy well, and i’m sure the braves could look over a little attitude, in turn for production.

a little media hype in atlanta would be a good thing.

Goldenglove002

June 23rd, 2009
2:51 pm

Braves better dominate Wang tonight. He’s horrible. horrible. If the braves can’t score atleast 5 off of him than I denounce this offense.

sportsmandh

June 23rd, 2009
2:52 pm

Hope Hanson kicks butt tonight. Hope he keeps the walks down too.

I got one thing I’ve noticed about Hanson the 1st few times I’ve seen him. And don’t think I’m making it a big deal, just an observation. He doesn’t have a very fluid throwing motion, if you’ll notice he kind of clutches or double clutches right before he throws the ball. It’s very unique. Only reason I bring it up is I hope that type of motion isn’t one that is hard on the shoulder or elbow over time. I always here people say Jake Peavy has a rough throwing motion and people predict him throwing his arm out. I have no reason to think this could happen to Hanson, I just noticed he throws a unique way. The results of course are great.

rammerjammer

June 23rd, 2009
2:53 pm

Frank is working the phones right now for an outfielder with pop. You know he is.

Vazquez is the bait if the bat is huge. Medlen (who hasn’t pitched since June 14) is the bait if the bat is promising. Francoeur is the bait if the bat needs a “fresh start.”

Lunatic Fringe

June 23rd, 2009
2:55 pm

Andy C
To be honest, the Braves led the Cubbies the entire game last night and they scored 0 runs but the Cub fans were still very loud so I don’t think getting ahead of them has much to do with it unless it’s a blow out

I am all for a blow out or three!

jeffrey d

June 23rd, 2009
2:56 pm

Man this new AJC layout is awful….they put the HBCU blog on the sports page, not O’Brien’s?

McLouth of the South

June 23rd, 2009
2:57 pm

Vazquez is the bait if the bat is huge. Medlen (who hasn’t pitched since June 14) is the bait if the bat is promising. Francoeur is the bait if the bat needs a “fresh start.”

And Bobby cox is the bait if the bat died six months ago

Travis

June 23rd, 2009
2:57 pm

One of the big reasons the Braves don’t draw as well as the some of the small market teams like Milwaukee Kansas, city etc is because of the outstanding weather and outdoor activities that don’t cost money to enjoy. Take a family of four to the ballpark and you are brwonbagging your lunch for the rest of the week. Excellent tv coverage will eventually take it’s toll on the Yankee attenndance just like it did in Atlanta. There is life after the Braves trust me.

toga party

June 23rd, 2009
2:58 pm

Please score some runs tonight! There’s no way I’ll be able to tolerate my Yankee fan co-workers if we can’t even beat Chin-Ming Wang.

Light ‘em up Tommy. Big stage tonight.

Great song DOB! I realize I’m emasculating myself a bit here, but you should check out Brandi Carlile’s live version. Absolutely brings the house down. I’ll link it up if I can find a good version on youtube.

beekay

June 23rd, 2009
2:58 pm

Would love to see the ol’ blog a few months back when Wren pulled the trigger on the Javy trade. So many people complaining and bashing him. J.V. is one of the most consistent pitchers in the MLB. We got him for a 4A shortstop and a low ball catcher that would have never seen the field…….I’m starting to warm up to Loaf, he is starting to rake. Him and Matty hopefully can make the platoon work…..Diory needs to go back down. There has to be a ss in our organization that can get a hit every 10 times up. I thought his range and arm were suspect yesterday as well

Adam Dunn

June 23rd, 2009
3:02 pm

good post ryan c. exactly what is going on right on point. on the other hand, mcclouth of the south= same garbage. trade vazquez (arguably our most consistent, best pitcher right now who is a k machine) and trade escobar (most consistent rbi producer with risp and outs…. without these guys dumbas* our team would go south ……

McLouth of the South

June 23rd, 2009
3:04 pm

Hmmmm….

A new poster with a new name speaking of something spoken about yesterday. Why, whoever could it be?

jeffrey d

June 23rd, 2009
3:05 pm

It’s Adam Dunn

Wayne in Utah

June 23rd, 2009
3:05 pm

Soriano vs Gonzalez

Which one is more valuable? more signable? higher trade value? more likely to fall off the table?

The Braves have TWO top notch closers in these guys. A luxury for sure. Can we afford this luxury when we need another bat in the lineup? Who would be a good trading partner?

Do we keep them both, and try to win more 3-2 games, or trade one of them for some help? Do we trade one for some future help?

Which contending teams need a closer or a strong set-up guy, and still have a bat they can deal?

Lunatic Fringe

June 23rd, 2009
3:06 pm

Here I am slaving away at work, trying my best to keep up with the blog and I read a comment like, “There is life after the Braves trust me.”

Makes me want to quit reading and do something useful.

ease19

June 23rd, 2009
3:08 pm

Speaking of Medlen, does anybody know WHY he has not pitched…I mean only twice since Hanson came up…and Bennett pitches every other hour…very bizarre :?:

Chop It Up All-star

June 23rd, 2009
3:08 pm

DOB,

You’re right about Amanda Peet. Something about her is just damn sexy!!

Renegator

June 23rd, 2009
3:08 pm

Tonight is the perfect set up for a HUGE let down. The fan base is starting to feel a little optomistic as the Braves won last night and looked pretty good against the Bo Sox. On top of that, the Braves are facing a pitcher who they should light up.

Just saying – sounds like a perfect Braves let down tonight…

Wayne in Utah

June 23rd, 2009
3:09 pm

Tampa Bay???

McLouth of the South

June 23rd, 2009
3:10 pm

Wayne, I think that’s the problem. Nobody who’s contending wants to deal a bat, and nobody wants to admit they aren’t contending. It will require two deals to get a bat IMO. One to get some prospects and dump some salary, then one to get a bat. That’s the whole point about Vazquez. If we sell high on him now we could get good prospects plus dump his 11.5 annual. You then can turn around and buy a $10 mil type bat such as Adam Dunn, or two smaller but potent bats like LaRoche and Cody Ross as I’ve mentioned before.

jeffrey d

June 23rd, 2009
3:10 pm

So your glass, Renegator, half full, is it?

McFann :Ô:

June 23rd, 2009
3:11 pm

Goldenglove002

What if they score 4? 8O

rammerjammer

June 23rd, 2009
3:13 pm

And let me say, I am not advocating a trade of Vazquez. He is a horse. But to GET you have to GIVE. And he is our most attractive GIVE.

And, theoretically, we could slide Medlen into the rotation for the balance of the season or until Hudson is ready.

Is there a risk? Good grief, of course there is! But this team will not make the postseason with the RF production it currently gets. Just won’t.

Coastal

June 23rd, 2009
3:15 pm

Heard it here first, Braves will sweep the Empire. I HAVE SPOKEN!

McLouth of the South

June 23rd, 2009
3:15 pm

It ain’t like LF has set the world on fire either…

Renegator

June 23rd, 2009
3:16 pm

jeffrey d

My glass is realistic.

Wayne in Utah

June 23rd, 2009
3:17 pm

McLouth

Good point. As much as I would love to have Dunn in our lineup, could we survive with two extremely weak defenders on the corners?

I would prefer Cody Ross.

Would the Pirates take Kotchman for LaRoche??? I don’t think so, with one of their top prospects being a first baseman….Pierce (sp).

RHR

June 23rd, 2009
3:19 pm

*breaks* Renegator’s glass.

What now?

beachcomber

June 23rd, 2009
3:19 pm

Wayne in Utah – great 3:05 post. Wish I had the answers to some very tough questions. Well – do have one answer, we need to do our damnest to make sure we have one of them in the fold for next year. As you allude to – having both again next year is probably a luxury we cannot afford.

MiltonDawg

June 23rd, 2009
3:21 pm

DOB: nice call the other day on White Rabbits..good stuff. Going to the game tonite. Pumped to see Hanson pitch. We need to make a statement tonite (and not the losing kind). I’ll be in left field giving Damon crap. Anyone want me to say anything to GA?

McLouth of the South

June 23rd, 2009
3:21 pm

Pessimists always call themselves realists. Of course, that’s because pessimism is their reality…

In honor of Frenchy I think the lyrics for the next blog should be Bloodhound Gang’s “Why’s Everybody Always Pickin’ On Me?”

Oh Boy! Oh Boy! Oh Boy!

June 23rd, 2009
3:21 pm

I don’t know how anyone could say the Braves don’t play entertaining baseball! Consider this;

Hanson may throw a 3 hitter tonight and the Braves squeak out a 3-1 win against the Yanks. Hanson may throw a 3 hitter tonight and the Braves tee off on Wang and win going away.

Hanson may throw well and the Yanks nip the Braves 2-1.

Hanson may be beaten like the red-headed stepchild he is by the Yanks, with the Bombers scoring at will against Hanson and the Braves!

Anything can happen with this Braves team! Tonight, they may look like World Series contenders or they may look like they have never seen a baseball before.

Ain’t they fun? 

semiballcoach

June 23rd, 2009
3:21 pm

leftfield, rightfield, firstbase, and rightfield are the only things keeping the braves from winning consistently

semiballcoach

June 23rd, 2009
3:22 pm

mclouth—that’d be the then=me song for bobby’s nose

jeffrey d

June 23rd, 2009
3:22 pm

*breaks* Renegator’s glass.

oooooooooooooooooooooh snap

MiltonDawg

June 23rd, 2009
3:23 pm

Renegator @ 3:08: i have an uneasy feeling too. this should be a game to light it up..but with these bats lately..let’s just say i never bet on the braves.

bravito199

June 23rd, 2009
3:23 pm

The Yankees need setup help how about Mike G for Xavier Nady( if he comes back healthy) or Nick Swisher

cabravesfan

June 23rd, 2009
3:23 pm

RHR-

That’s why I use plastic glasses :)

rob from sc

June 23rd, 2009
3:24 pm

cabravesfan

What minor leaguer has put up those numbers

McLouth of the South

June 23rd, 2009
3:25 pm

Careful Wayne, I suggested Kotchman for LaRoche and got called everything but a m-fer. Course, I said they should offer to take Jack Wilson back to sweeten the deal, send Frenchy down, and ship Yunel to the Marlins for Cody Ross and prospects. Maybe that’s why.

Seriously, I don’t think Pierce will be ready for awhile yet. Kotchman is a FA after 2011, which is probably about right.

The Kid from Crocodile Tears

June 23rd, 2009
3:27 pm

Dude, we gotta get outta here… I just sharted.

cabravesfan

June 23rd, 2009
3:28 pm

rob from sc-

Brian McCann

RHR

June 23rd, 2009
3:29 pm

Anyone want me to say anything to GA?

Yell LOAF! real loud. I just want to know if he turns his head in acknowledgment. :P

Red cups are the way to go, right cab?

Renegator

June 23rd, 2009
3:31 pm

Call it pessimism, call it realism – whatever. All I know is that based off what the Braves have done the last 4 years. I wouldn’t get too excited about the Braves “turning it around” any time soon…

McLouth of the South

June 23rd, 2009
3:31 pm

Y’all leave Garret alone.

He just like to practice his home run trot on account he plans to hit one some day.

rob from sc

June 23rd, 2009
3:31 pm

He turned out pretty good, and didn’t sniff triple A.

cabravesfan

June 23rd, 2009
3:33 pm

RHR-

Only while tailgating at football games (they are perfect for…lots of things actually ;) ) At home I use the fancy hard plastic…

Shamus Thacker

June 23rd, 2009
3:33 pm

“”Wang is 0-5 with a 12.30 ERA in nine games (six starts) this season, with a .410 average and six homers allowed in 26-1/3 innings. Seriously, that’s bad, and get this: As a starter, he’s 0-5 with a 16.69 ERA.”"

With our history against scrub pitchers, we could easily be looking at a “Cy-Ming Wang” story in The Post tonight.

Don’t believe that’ll happen though…

cabravesfan

June 23rd, 2009
3:33 pm

rob from sc-

yup. Perfect example of why you can’t just rely on the numbers :)

dmack2027

June 23rd, 2009
3:34 pm

Any chance the Braves engage Texas in talks for Andruw?

Personally I thought the Braves should have signed him in the winter. He is having a repectable season there and would fill the void for a right handed presence in the lineup.

Wayne in Utah

June 23rd, 2009
3:34 pm

McLouth

I would be OK with both of those deals, although I think the Pirates would require more than just Kotchman for LaRoche and Wilson.

As bad as I would hate to give up on Escobar, I think he might eventually end up elsewhere. Problem is we really don’t have anybody in the system that has shown that they might be an heir apparent to ANY of the infield positions, except for first base. Dealing Escobar would just make us more vulnerable.

While I like Prado and Infante, they are no better than utility infielders.

jeffrey d

June 23rd, 2009
3:35 pm

Cy Ming Wang sounds like a schezuan dish

jeffrey d

June 23rd, 2009
3:36 pm

While I like Prado and Infante, they are no better than utility infielders.

Exactly! Infante got off to a hot start so people here are talking like he’s an all star. But reality is he’s a career .260’s hitter.

Wayne in Utah

June 23rd, 2009
3:36 pm

dmack

Please, no thanks. Go back and look at his numbers for the month of June. I bet you might change your mind. AJ is a has-been.

dmack2027

June 23rd, 2009
3:37 pm

By the way, the Braves reportedly almost acquired Jason Bay for Locke, Lillibridge, Brandon Jones, and Conception Rodriguez.

That would have been a great trade. However, I can see why the Pirates nixed it.

Self Reference

June 23rd, 2009
3:38 pm

Since the Dodgers are hitting well enough without him, and they could use another good starter, … how about give them back D. Lowe for Manny?
D.O.B. are Collins and Aldrich going in the draft?

monty

June 23rd, 2009
3:38 pm

Obvious after watching last night’s game that there were a couple of balls hit to short that Diory couldn’t get to that Esco could have and the one ball Diory did stop in the hole he couldn’t get enough on the throw to get the runner. That to me doesn’t bode well if you are going to be a light hitter. It was OK for Belliard not to hit because he was the original Pac-Man. Diory isn’t.

PWHjort

June 23rd, 2009
3:38 pm

Soriano has 45 K’s in 32 and 2/3 innings. Disgusting.

Wayne in Utah

June 23rd, 2009
3:38 pm

jeffrey

If you checked in here on the blog, you’d think sometimes both of those guys are perennial all-stars.

They are a lot like Matt Diaz, good players who will be exposed if over utilized.

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