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TnBrian
June 22nd, 2009
4:36 pm
From the looks of the AJC poll asking if the Braves are pretenders or contenders, over 80% voted pretenders. Yet, most of you are coming up with trade scenarios to make the team better and get into the playoffs. Let me guess, the ones that voted pretenders don’t post here? Make up your minds!
John Deere Green
June 22nd, 2009
4:37 pm
Jury is still out on Schafer for now tho, But Dunn, cmon you’re reaching considerably there.
and No I don’t like the Braves I love this team, I watched As a kid when Ralph Garr was a beast on this team, got highly pissed when Dusty Baker was traded, cried when the Hammer left, and was thoroughly
outraged when Brett Butler,Dave Justice,Marquis Grissom, and A.Wainwright were traded away……
So when it comes to the Braves yes I do give a damn!!!! and No I don’t want Adam Dunn!
Efrim
June 22nd, 2009
4:37 pm
“I hate this. I hate this because it is true and I am not a Marteen fan. But KJ has burned the last ember of the bridge. Not even one of his patented september hot streaks is going to change my mind. That guy needs to go.”
As sad as it is, I have to agree. I’ve fought it. I’m like the biggest Kelly fan on here. But he’s regressing and the walk rate is troubling. Plus, he is making 2.8 million, so that salary is going to climb before he hits free agency after 2011. Unfortunately, they would get little for him in a trade at this point and that’s the awful thing. Because coming off of that 2007, they could of gotten tons. Mountain of value, then.
Roman Gal
June 22nd, 2009
4:38 pm
Hate when posts get eaten. MFin04
You know, the less you post, the less your posts will get eaten.
brick
June 22nd, 2009
4:38 pm
Juan Rivera would be an upgrade for sure. I see the point of the two reliever being left handed. I was thinking about that too. I trade gonzo because he scares me more that is the only reason. But if it works out with soriano being more attrctive to teams then I would trade him. Which ever can get you the most in return because both can get the job done.
ncscoots
June 22nd, 2009
4:38 pm
With Freeman and Heyward almost ready, and Schafer ready next year (if not sooner) you’d then have an OF of Heyward, Schafer, McLouth. You’d also have an IF of Freeman, KJ/Prado, Escobar, Chipper.
Well, whenever that happens, better hope some of those folks are Pujolsian in nature, LOL. Because you’ll be running out a starting 8 with one or two five-year vets in the bunch, and almost no one in their prime. Not exactly a recipe for World Series domination.
But at least we’d get to see if bloggers REALLY can deal with “let the kids play, I don’t care how bad they are”, LOL.
getsomepower
June 22nd, 2009
4:38 pm
Buffalo NY Braves Fan
June 22nd, 2009
4:36 pm
getsomepower,
I like Juan Rivera actually. Maybe Gary Matthews Jr. is on the block? I know he was upset with his playing time this season……
Would he want to come back here? He is a former Brave.
bigcooterb
June 22nd, 2009
4:40 pm
Why not trade the Braves for Pujois and call up the farm system to fill in aroung him?
Boonie
June 22nd, 2009
4:40 pm
Where is this Rogers guy at and why hasn’t the lineup been posted?
Heath (Cleveland)
June 22nd, 2009
4:40 pm
MFin04
GA is not a defensive genius. That said, the Braves likely do not have the payroll flexibility to fix ALL of the offensive problems. Of the ones they could fix, which would you rather the Braves address? RF, LF, or 2B? I am not enamored with the idea of having GA, nor am I disgusted. I only contend that he is less of a problem then other spots. Thoughts?
Efrim
June 22nd, 2009
4:40 pm
Kelly Johnson since the start of the 2008 season:
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/j/johnske05.shtml#2008-2009-sum:batting_standard
.270/.333/.427 in 860 plate appearances. 99 OPS+.
Sigh…
Lank
June 22nd, 2009
4:40 pm
Is there a lineup yet?
jeffrey d
June 22nd, 2009
4:42 pm
Is Boonie drunk?
McFann :Ô:
June 22nd, 2009
4:42 pm
DLowe’s new blog is a bit hard on the eyes…I’m still seeing it in front of me. Perhaps he should reverse it and go black type on white background.
PWHjort
June 22nd, 2009
4:44 pm
Strikeouts pros and cons:
pros: they’re preferable to double plays, they drive a pitcher’s pitch count up
cons: you can’t have a “productive out” when you strike out, sometimes when you put the ball in play good things happen.
Final note: they’re the same as any other out with no men on base.
They’re not good, but having a low K% is not nearly as important as most other offensive things. Like AVG, OBP, SLG, BB%, ISOP, plate discipline, etc…
Salamander
June 22nd, 2009
4:44 pm
Let me guess, the ones that voted pretenders don’t post here? Make up your minds! TnBrian
I voted pretender and I have repeatedly stated that the Braves are more than 1 piece away from contending this year. Just so you know some people are consistent (well, at least in this particular case).
Roman Gal
June 22nd, 2009
4:44 pm
’m pulling for Jordan.
Slugger-
I knew I liked you.
Efrim
June 22nd, 2009
4:44 pm
Heyward and Freeman are almost ready? People here think that? Wow. I know they are playing very well for 19 year olds in High-A, but I’m pretty sure it’s possible to ruin any prospect. Even Jason Heyward. So sure, promote them. Call em up in September of 09. They’ll be 20 by then(at least Heyward will be). I’m sure they’ll OPS .900 in the majors by then…..
Wait, what’s that? They aren’t doing that right now, in High-A?!?!?!
CB
June 22nd, 2009
4:45 pm
scoots, “true” fans will still be fans,lol
Heath (Cleveland)
June 22nd, 2009
4:45 pm
Efrim… can you explain your *sigh* ?
The dude is at 226/.292/.380/.672 this year with no signs of getting better this with is .067/.176/.133/.310 numbers in the last week.
MFin04
June 22nd, 2009
4:46 pm
Heath I posted on the other blog today, that I’d rather have Frenchy in RF than GA in LF.
Frenchy plays better defense, and runners think twice about running on his arm.
On the flip side, GA is a marginally better hitter, but a terrible left fielder. Teams run all over his weak arm and he is so darn slow he can’t get to anything. Once he gets to the ball..he can’t throw anyone out.
Buffalo NY Braves Fan
June 22nd, 2009
4:46 pm
ncscoots,
Not that it happens that often, but the Rays did it with young guys, and that team can’t be worse than the current one. Plus with “letting the kids play” the bloggers and fans would have some excitement with the team, and probably more patience as they are “kids” and we are rebuilding.
varodrunner
June 22nd, 2009
4:46 pm
Actually the Marlins have won with young talent – Just saying…….
Why not the Braves?
Answer – Marlins had a manager capable of managing young talent
Pennski
June 22nd, 2009
4:46 pm
Paul I understand that 100%, but you also aren’t destroying Casey Kotchman, GA, Matt Diaz, Jordan Schafer, or Kelly Johnson either. You make it out to sound like every time Ryan Howard gets a hanger he puts it in to the seats, he doesn’t, ask Mike Gonzalez about it in the first series of the year…
Seems to me you are just on a personal rampage against the kid, that’s my point.
John Deere Green
June 22nd, 2009
4:46 pm
will someone PLEASE INFORM THE AJC THAT JEFF FAILURECOUER IS NOT THE BRAVES ONLY PLAYER!
Jeez i get tired of seeing that bum on the front page of the sports section!!!!
Kentavo
June 22nd, 2009
4:46 pm
Freeman ain’t ready – have you seen his stats?
Heath (Cleveland)
June 22nd, 2009
4:47 pm
PWHjort:
I have not read through all your posts to follow your discussion, but I presume that last post is a defense for Dunn?
varodrunner
June 22nd, 2009
4:47 pm
MFin04
Who could argue with that? Not me!
Roman Gal
June 22nd, 2009
4:47 pm
But at least we’d get to see if bloggers REALLY can deal with “let the kids play, I don’t care how bad they are”, LOL.
It would either cause me to:
A- get carpal tunnel from all the scrolling
B- stop reading the blog
C- go insane
Paul Lentz
June 22nd, 2009
4:47 pm
Buffalo NY Braves Fan………there is a difference between a player who misses a hanger, yet more times than not hits a hanger….and…..a player who almost always misses hitting the hanger. Dustin Pedoria hit a hanger for a double that probably should been hit out of the park. However, Pedoria won the MVP last year, and has shown that he can CONSISTENTLY hit the hanger. Even the best players go through slumps, like Chipper is now. However when Chipper busts out of the slump, I’m sure that you’ll see more than 1 double like what Francoeur only had when he went through his recent 7 for 18 “hot streak”, lol.
HOWEVER, Jeff Francoeur pretty much has lost the ability to hit homers PERIOD. Dude has hit only 15 FREAKING HOMERS in his last 848 at-bats.
The Braves cannot afford to play Jeff Francoeur. He contributes virtually NOTHING to the Braves offense.
Pennski
June 22nd, 2009
4:49 pm
Paul, in all seriousness, who is the better everyday option than Jeff in rf? And don’t say diaz, b/c he’s not exactly dominating pitching and Jeff has easily saved runs w/ his arm.
Efrim
June 22nd, 2009
4:49 pm
Heath, I really thought Kelly Johnson was going to be an above average regular for the duration of his time in Atlanta. After his 2007, I thought he was just going to keep OPS’n like .830. That hasn’t been the case, and it upsets me.
Buffalo NY Braves Fan
June 22nd, 2009
4:49 pm
Kentavo,
I was talking about mid-2010, not this season. By the end of this season Freeman and Heyward will be in AA, I’m guessing they will both get the call within the next 3 weeks. After playing the rest of this season at AA, they will start next year in AAA. Both will get non-roster invites to spring training to get some work with the big club. 1/2 a season in AAA and they could be ready for the bigs.
Chop Chop
June 22nd, 2009
4:50 pm
scoots,
My favorite posts over the years have been the ones where Coach says that he knows the answer to something, but conveniently won’t reveal it. We can rest assured that he’s just too wise to give the answer away. After all, he can’t allow the ham-n-eggers here to have access to his hard-won secret knowledge. Coach is the 33rd-degree Mason of this blog.
Paul Lentz
June 22nd, 2009
4:51 pm
DAP………..I never said that Javier Vazquez was a “better” pitcher than Tim Hudson. However, it is a “bigger risk” to pick up Hudson’s option and trade Vazquez for a right fielder………then it is to decline Hudson’s option, keep Vazquez, and use Hudson’s salary to acquire a right fielder through free agency. Health issues is a big deal.
Paying $12 mil to a pitcher coming off elbow surgery, while trading away a healthy, durable, good pitcher is VERY RISKY.
Heath (Cleveland)
June 22nd, 2009
4:52 pm
How often have storms moved almost perfectly southward in ATL? That storm cell is a very odd one. Looks to be moving fairly wuickly though.
Redirect
June 22nd, 2009
4:52 pm
McFann,
I usually troll, but I had to ask: How is it you stay so completely down to earth in all of these “discussions” and don’t get all bent out of shape? Even when someone goes after your “mann”, you hold your own! You are a true fan and I enjoy the level-headed comments that you make. It’s refreshing as opposed to some of the crap I see some people throwing out here!
John Deere Green
June 22nd, 2009
4:52 pm
At this point I would trade Stenchcouer for Claudell Washington, even Terrence Moron would like that one!
Vinings Jim
June 22nd, 2009
4:52 pm
Roman Gal – re your 4:38 – unfortunately, not enough posts being eaten here today, given the volume coming from some directions.
Efrim
June 22nd, 2009
4:53 pm
“Freeman ain’t ready – have you seen his stats?”
Kentavo, I agree. He has had a very good year for a 19 year old in High-A, but 18 walks in 62 games and a .250/.388/.357 line against LHP leads me to believe that he isn’t quite ready yet. Maybe for Double-A. But the majors? Absolutely not. Could he be ready by the start of 2010? I doubt it. September of 2010? Maybe. Start of 2011? Probably. June callup in 2011? Yup, sounds good.
Buffalo NY Braves Fan
June 22nd, 2009
4:53 pm
Paul Lentz,
So because Pedroia has won an MVP, and his ball actually fell in for a double, then he gets a break. But because Francoeur hit the ball hard and was robbed on a great play, he gets killed?
I see how it works.
You can’t have it both ways….. either you kill everyone for missing the hanger, or you lay off the 1 player that misses it. I’ll go out on a limb and say that the average major leaguer hits the hanger out of the park around 5-15% of the time. How many times do you see that ball fouled straight back, or ripped foul, or hit hard but to the gap somewhere?
ncscoots
June 22nd, 2009
4:53 pm
Plus with “letting the kids play” the bloggers and fans would have some excitement with the team, and probably more patience as they are “kids” and we are rebuilding.
Why, in a normal world, you would be correct, of course. But, if you plan to tell me that the bulk of current contributors to this forum would see a young, getting-their-brains-beat-in team as “exciting”, and would show “patience” while the beatdowns occurred, I ask you to forbear. That universe does not exist for humans, LOL.
The Braves enduring failure for the number of years that the Rays were truly awful, before a single year of perfect-storm success, would produce mushroom clouds of epic proportion on this blog. I kid you not, my friend.
Lamar1Banks2
June 22nd, 2009
4:53 pm
Adam is not a bad player but he would most useful at 1st base and not the outfield
gayle
June 22nd, 2009
4:53 pm
Am I the only one who has had it with BC’s moronic comments following yet another Braves’ loss?
“We won everything but the game.”
Gee, where in the standings do such “victories” count?
You can make all of the trades and fantasy pickups mentioned here, but it will all amount to naught until you get that relic out of the dugout.
The ejection yesterday was not a sign of fire in this tean, it is a sign of growing frustration over yet another losing season.
Get used to it Braves fans. As long as you have Bobby, you will continue to lose, regardless of who is on the field.
He got the pitching so sorely lacking last year and the team has a worse record.
It’s way past time to clean house.
Roman Gal
June 22nd, 2009
4:54 pm
His outing before that one, Vazquez pitched a two-hitter in eight innings against the Pirates and got no-decision after Rafael Soriano blew the save in the ninth.
Carroll-
Actually, Soriano just took the loss. The game was tied 1-1 and Sori gave up 2 runs.
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Salamander
June 22nd, 2009
4:55 pm
After his 2007, I thought he [KJ] was just going to keep OPS’n like .830. That hasn’t been the case, and it upsets me. Efrim
Yeah, I was confident that KJ was ready to be a solid bat in the lineup this season… whoops. I spoke out in favor of keeping him versus trading him as part of a package to St Louis for Ludwick… oops.
KJ’s lack of production represents my worst prediction for the 2009 season… At least I never had faith in Jeff rebounding – I knew that kid was staying in the garbage.
PWHjort
June 22nd, 2009
4:55 pm
Heath,
If anyone chooses to use it as a defense of Dunn they may, but no. The post is about strikeouts in general. Without any Dunn context. Or any context at all. Other than the way baseball is played and studied in this day and age.
LeVar Burton
June 22nd, 2009
4:55 pm
Jeff, I told you not to take my word for it…
Paul Lentz
June 22nd, 2009
4:56 pm
Pennski……….Diaz is the BETTER option in right field than Francoeur is. Francoeur does not drive the ball at all. Diaz’s bat gives the Braves a better chance to score runs.
I never said that Diaz is the long term answer. However, for now, I’d much rather see him in the line-up than Jeff Francoeur. A little offense from Matt Diaz is MUCH BETTER than no offense from Jeff Francoeur.
Shamus Thacker
June 22nd, 2009
4:57 pm
Y’all include Frenchy in pretty much all trade scenarios.
That’s like trying to find a date for your galfriend’s ugly cousin.
MFin04
June 22nd, 2009
4:57 pm
I did notice that the only reason Bobby got ejected was because he was already out there for a pitching change. No way Bobby would have gotten out of the dugout to argue that call. Anyone else notice that?
He was pretty much, “while I’m out here, I mine as well argue.”
ncscoots
June 22nd, 2009
4:57 pm
Chop, Coach is Coach…not good, bad, or indifferent, he just…is.
CCjacket
June 22nd, 2009
4:57 pm
how hard could it possibly be in this technology age to get a pic of Carroll up there instead of DOB by now, 3 months into the season??
Just confusing to see his pic when she’s blogging.
? ? ? ?
Efrim
June 22nd, 2009
4:58 pm
Beltran headed for the DL
Talk about bad luck.
I really wish this team had just average outfielders in the corners.
McFann :Ô:
June 22nd, 2009
4:58 pm
Redirect–
It has everything to do with the way I was (and continue to be) raised. I also learned from my first few weeks on the Blog–I was a bit of a jerk then…
Thank you very much–I appreciate the post!
Paul Lentz
June 22nd, 2009
4:58 pm
I’ve seen blogs titled “should we trade chipper”, “is it time for bobby to retire”, and “is the season over for the Braves”……………However, I would like to see a blog titled “Is Frank Wren a serious candidate for Executive of the Year award”?
Frank Wren has done a really good job rebuilding the Braves. At the end of last season, the Braves starting pitching was in DISARRAY. Against a lot of public backlash……Frank Wren traded for Javier Vazquez (gave up a prospect who probably wont amount to anything and a career Triple A player)……..signed Derek Lowe (many of you said the Braves “overpaid” for him)…….Ripped off the Pirates in the Nate McLouth trade (gave up a bum, a singles hitter, and a relief pitcher prospect)……..and more importantly, didnt resign Hampton, Smoltz, and let Glavine go. Also, after the disaster that the back-up catcher position plagued the Braves last year, Frank Wren made a smart pick-up in signing David Ross to a 2 year contract.
I know that Wren has gotten a lot of backlash for “not improving the offense”. Signing Garrett was the best option, giving the financial constraints. Many of you MORONS are forgetting that the Braves are paying Tim Hudson $15.5 mil to be on the disabled list this year. If the Braves didnt have to pay him, then Frank Wren would have been able to improve the offense this past winter.
However…..there is good news on the horizon. At the end of the season, there will be no more contracts to players who are hurt. Hudson’s contract comes off the books at the end of this season. In 2007, the Braves paid $52 mil to 4 starting pitchers who pitched a combined 52 starts. This year, the Braves are paying $36 mil to 5 starters who have pitched a combined 60 starts, with 94 games still left in the season. Even when you factor in Hudson’s $15.5 mil salary this season for zero starts so far, that pushes the starting pitching payroll to $51 mil to 6 pitchers who have started 60 games, still a much better bargain than last year. If the Braves dont exercise Hudson’s option, then the Braves will have a 2010 salary allotment of $36 mil for our starting 5. That frees up so much money to improve the offense.
Frank Wren has worked wonders so far. And I’m sure that he will make a trade happen in the next few weeks to improve the offense even more.
John Deere Green
June 22nd, 2009
4:59 pm
Now Beltran, Mutts are feeling the Braves woes of 08
Lamar1Banks2
June 22nd, 2009
4:59 pm
Bobby Cox’s doesn’t loaf to balls in the outfield, nor does he drop pop ups, nor does he fail to hit the cut off man, nor does swing at the 1st pitch, nor is he a streaky hitter who only finds the cold streak.
You can blame Bobby for alot of things but the cupboard is bare in alot of spots on this team.
Pennski
June 22nd, 2009
4:59 pm
Paul there #’s are not that much different. You can’t just leave the defense part of things off the table anyways. You saw what happened last yr when we had to depend on Diaz full time, he was borderline awful… I like him in the position he is in, and the reality is he’s not a full time option. Frenchie is the better alternative right now with what we have in RF
scott
June 22nd, 2009
5:00 pm
BELTRAN TO THE DL.
Yet another reason why we can catch the Phillies and Mets. They’re banged up wayy more than we are. A few good series and we’re right back into it
Heath (Cleveland)
June 22nd, 2009
5:00 pm
PWHjort:
Just curious… However, it would be a perfect argument for Dunn. He is hitting .267/.402/.529/.931 with 18HR and 49RBI. Does he have a lot of K’s (74), yes, but he also has 55BB.
Pennski
June 22nd, 2009
5:01 pm
I do agree w/ you there paul. Frank has done a fantastic job rebuilding this team. I think he’s pulled all the right strings from top to bottom.
Vinings Jim
June 22nd, 2009
5:01 pm
Weatherwise, this is the third time today that it has gotten dark and I hear thunder rumbling (15 miles northwest of the stadium), but so far all I’ve seen are a few raindrops. Seems to be a green blob over the stadium right now.
What Bobby does is...
June 22nd, 2009
5:02 pm
sit there and smile like a blithering imbecile while his playas loaf to balls and throw to the wrong base and forget how many outs there are and are so busy arguing with the umpires that they forget to play ball.
That’s what Bobby does and he is responsible for the lack of professionalism on this “team”.
Anders
June 22nd, 2009
5:02 pm
I’m guessing you guys have seen that Donald Fehr is retiring? Thank God and good riddance. Should be interesting to see how the new guy approaches this whole steroid thing. Clean slate with a chance to take a fresh approach to it all. Fehr had to recognize that he was in a never ending spiral regarding these names coming out. Just the fact that we hardly saw him anymore spoke volumes. This guy was a media hog when he was riding high.
It’s a long shot and may not even be legal but maybe the new guy urges the players to get all the names out once and for all. Like I said a long shot but at the very least I’m all for changing the players union voice. It’s been Fehr too long and he became stale.
Now if Selig would agree to go play with his grandchildren maybe we could fix that office too. Who knows? Maybe the game will go back to the fans again?
MFin04
June 22nd, 2009
5:03 pm
Lamar1Banks2 – What do other managers do to players that do that kind of crap though?
cabravesfan
June 22nd, 2009
5:03 pm
Vinings Jim-
Would I be pitchforked if I asked for a short rain delay? SHORT! Like, an hour? Just so I can get home before the game starts? (ducking under my desk now…)
Epinephrine
June 22nd, 2009
5:03 pm
Beltran to the DL with a bone bruise.
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Epinephrine
June 22nd, 2009
5:04 pm
I see it has been posted. But yeah. This division is open for the taking.
Pennski
June 22nd, 2009
5:05 pm
Anders, amen to that. The guy has been a major roadblock to the whole steroid thing. I hope we can put this behind us now as baseball fans.
Paul Lentz
June 22nd, 2009
5:05 pm
Buffalo NY Braves Fan……………dude, if Francoeur not hitting a hanger out was an “isolated” event, then I wouldnt jump all over him for it. However, I have watched pretty much every Braves game the past several years on Direct TV’s MLB Extra Innings package. I have seen Francoeur miss hanger after hanger. If Francoeur was producing some, then that is one thing. But Francoeur has 4 homers and 6 doubles ALL YEAR LONG. It’s almost July for crying out loud. Wake up and smell the freaking coffee dude.
When you produce, you get a pass when you struggle. However, when you dont produce, yet keep getting chance after chance to produce………and still dont produce……..then what is wrong with fans wanting to see the BUM benched? I’m sick and tired of seeing Francoeur come up in crucial situations and killing rallies.
I know that hitting in the Major Leagues is hard. That is why I’m not being paid $3.375 mil to play, like Jeff Francoeur is. If Francoeur cant do it (which has become apparent for quite some time), then give someone else a chance (Matt Diaz).
Chop Chop
June 22nd, 2009
5:05 pm
That’s right, scoots. He consistently brings to the table whatever it is he brings to the table.
PWHjort
June 22nd, 2009
5:06 pm
Beltran to the DL? Wow, it can’t get worse for the Mets. Well, it can. Johan Santana can go on the DL.
McFann :Ô:
June 22nd, 2009
5:06 pm
cabravesfan–
Efrim
June 22nd, 2009
5:07 pm
Appy League preview for all you awful prospect huggers……..:
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090622&content_id=5465636&vkey=news_milb&fext=.jsp
Supes
June 22nd, 2009
5:07 pm
Paul Lentz favorite term to describe his fellow “Braves fans” – MORONS
Of course, it takes one to know one.
Paul Lentz = Internet tough guy know it all.
Vinings Jim
June 22nd, 2009
5:08 pm
cabravesfan – ok with me – I head off to teach in an hour, so a delay might give me a chance to see some of the game live. And it has just started raining here.
Supes
June 22nd, 2009
5:09 pm
Give me the equivalent of Adam Dunn RH power hitter the Braves can go after? Anyone?
Don’t say DeRosa (not even close to the same HR power), or Holliday (not away from Coors). So OK then experts…give me that 40HR guy that bats righty?
Packerman
June 22nd, 2009
5:10 pm
Does anyone here realize how absurdly left handed the Braves lineup would be when Heyward and Freeman come up? That makes all but 2B, SS, and 3B as the only non-lefty batters. With Chipper at 3B, there are only 2 true righty hitters in that lineup. The Braves seem to have an uncanny ability to see every team’s left handed pitchers, so that lineup could present serious matchup problems. I can’t wait to see these kids in the majors, but we need to make sure we can keep some semblance of balance in the lineup.
PWHjort
June 22nd, 2009
5:10 pm
Efrim,
The title of that article is, “Raw talent takes center stage in Appy League”. I don’t mean to be all 3rd grader here but, DUH! It’s a rookie league.
Packerman
June 22nd, 2009
5:11 pm
Supes, his name is Jermaine Dye. He’s probably more of a 30-35 homer a year guy though.
Louisville brave
June 22nd, 2009
5:12 pm
Would the baseball gods dare have frenchy out of the line up for two straight games? oh…let us pray
cabravesfan
June 22nd, 2009
5:12 pm
McFann-
I think that was the last game I asked for a rain delay too
Vinings Jim-
Yeah, I’ve kinda got a bad track record with that…maybe not such a good idea after all?
Heath (Cleveland)
June 22nd, 2009
5:13 pm
Louisville brave:
Funny dude. Funny. I bet Frenchy AND KJ are both in the lineup…
Supes
June 22nd, 2009
5:14 pm
Supes, his name is Jermaine Dye. He’s probably more of a 30-35 homer a year guy though.
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Aging guy with less power. Next. I’m talking a legit 40HR guy like Adam Dunn is going to be this year.
Come on experts. Let’s hear it.
Of course, none of this would matter if we still had Texiera here. There wouldn’t be near the power outtage necessary for the Braves to show for a power bat.
Oh, and Dye due to make MORE money this year than Dunn.
Salamander
June 22nd, 2009
5:15 pm
Louisville brave
Doubt it. One can dream I suppose.
Vinings Jim
June 22nd, 2009
5:15 pm
cabravesfan – I’m playing it neutral – I just don’t want a tree to blow on my head on my way to Midtown.
Paul Lentz
June 22nd, 2009
5:17 pm
Pennski………I never said that Ryan Howard or Albert Pujols hits every hanger out. However…..they hit plenty enough hangers out of the park to warrant a pass on the times that they miss hitting the hangers out. Jeff Francoeur simply has forgotten to hit homers. 15 homers in 848 at-bats is PATHETIC.
I would much rather see Garrett and Diaz playing in the outfield than Francoeur. So what if Francoeur has a good arm. His bat is killing the Braves offensively. You have to score runs to win games in this league. Garrett is warming up, and Diaz has pop in his bat. Plus, Garrett and Diaz are making less than Francoeur, yet producing more. Let’s take a look at their stats:
…………………Jeff Francoeur….Matt Diaz……Garrett Anderson
At-bats………………249…………..124……………….161…………
Average……………(.245)…………(.274)……………(.280)……….
Doubles………………..6………………6………………….8………..
Triples………………….2………………2………………….0…………
Homers………………..4………………3………………….3…………
RBIs…………………..30…………….17…………………24……….
Walks…………………12…………….12…………………10……….
Strikeouts…………….36…………….27…………………18……….
Francoeur has by far the most at-bats. Yet compare their power numbers? Francoeur is a bad hitter.
cabravesfan
June 22nd, 2009
5:17 pm
Vinings Jim-
I think I would be against that too
Heath (Cleveland)
June 22nd, 2009
5:17 pm
Supes
DeRosa doesn’t have the power Dunn has. But….he is hitting 277/.347/.470/.816 with 13 HR 12 Doubles and 50 RBI. I think he would be a welcomed addition in RF, don’t you?
Chop Chop
June 22nd, 2009
5:17 pm
Have you hugged a prospect today?
Steve from OH
June 22nd, 2009
5:17 pm
Beltran to the DL? After Reyes and Beltran? And Church missing time earlier? And the Phillies have only one starting pitcher with an ERA+ above 93?
Gosh…darn…you…Jeff…Francoeur…and…Garret…Anderson…and…Kelly…Johnson (though I think you’ll break out of it). Aargh!
Supes
June 22nd, 2009
5:17 pm
Adam Dunn = Perfect fit for the current system of sit and wait for the 3run jack that Bobby loves to play. (Personally I’m not a fan of it, but this current team is not built for speed or power right now. Adding a player like Dunn at least gives us the power element and presence in the lineup)
semiballcoach
June 22nd, 2009
5:18 pm
please stop wondering if gary matthews jr. is available, the braves already released him several years ago, pre-roids….he signed as a steroid aided free agent and has returned to his natural talent level at a very high price tag
Kentavo
June 22nd, 2009
5:19 pm
There’s no way Donk has the nerve to bench Stenchy two games in a row.
Supes
June 22nd, 2009
5:20 pm
Heath (Cleveland)
Of course DeRo would be a “welcomed addition”. After being exposed to the wretched style of play that Jeff and Loaf put us through most of the time.
That’s not what the point is. The point was raised that Dunn strikes out too much and is LH. So I say again, what premiere power hitters are out there who are RH, that cost what Dunn would cost (in terms of salary) and are signed for an affordable contract for the next 2 years?
Find me the RH “version” of Dunn that the Braves could acquire to push them over the top in the NL East?
Steve from OH
June 22nd, 2009
5:22 pm
Chop Chop, I have not. However, I would like to point out that 2009 draft picks Mycal Jones, David Berryhill, Riaan Spanjer-Furstenberg, Cory Harrilchak, and Robby Hefflinger will be opening with Danville!
Also, other prospects of note starting with the D-Braves are Julio Teheran, Brett Olberholtzer, Tyler Stovall, Cory Rasmus and Adam Milligan (keep an eye on him).
Prospects, consider yourselves hugged.
Heath (Cleveland)
June 22nd, 2009
5:22 pm
Oh…and DeRosa’s career numbers are .279/.348/.426/.774….so, it’s not like DeRosa is hitting so far over his head that we have to worry about skewed numbers. Make it happen!