“but we braves fans as a whole could be more intense. i know i am.”
I guess you haven’t seen Me During Primetime on this Blog…Most of the Veterans of this blog will probably agree that I may the Hypest Person on here. Especially During the Later Innings…I’m Off The Chain…!
I live and Die With Them Braves…You gotta Be loyal to your Roots! And Don’t get me into watching SEC Games…
This “succint” word sounds a little like “suck it,” doesn’t it?
If I were to use it in a paragraph, I could type this:
“As a baby, Paul Lentz was weaned on lead-based paints. Thus, being forced by his mother to succint, Paul rapidly developed the mental acuity of a nuclear blast-proof shelter. We are all witnesses to this phenomenon.”
That may be true about the Cubs historically being louder at the Ted…but I guess the question is are we going to get a repeat with the Yanks and Sox. I can’t remember specifically how those fans have turned out in the past at the Ted.
tomahawkin…i know you are! i am too. i live and die with the braves. i hate em, i love em at about a .490 pace. but overall, cant live without em. obviously, people on a blog are pretty intense fans.
we need to clone about 45 K more of us and show up at Turner every night! yes, and even paul lentz, cuz he is a thickheaded, but nevertheless intense braves fan.
DOB…I just was reading the News paper in Puerto rico, They say that with the Win last night Vazquez has 132 Win in the Major, Now he’s Second in All Puerto Rican Pitcher History in Winning. First with 177 is John Candelaria & Third is Juan Pizarro.
Word Of Mouf Is Cubs, Bankees, And Red Sox Fans Don’t want to overpay for seating at their Respective home parks especially if they are transplants, therefore they invade other parks where the costs are cheaper and the seats are easier to come by…
Tomahawkin’d
Since I’m in such a good mood I’m gonna Ignore that last Garbage post…
I get my salary figures from the player profiles on espn.com. If you will go check, you will see that they have Tim Hudson listed as making $15.5 mil this year. Also, they have Kawakami listed as making $8.333 mil. So, if what I’m posting is incorrect, then blame espn.com……..not me.
I think More People, My age 20’s Crowd would go to the games if the fan experience was better…Thats not an excuse but I hate the corporate Crowds that predominate the fandom at Tooner Field…
Give it an SEC tailgating/football atmosphere then more people my age would come…
atlanta is a melting pot of many cities all over the country, so the fan base is not as strong as many other cities. plus, turner field has absolutely no “walk up attendance” so there arent many “spur of the moment” fans. atlanta’s fan enthusiasm and attendance have been just average for quite some time. i blame it on 2 things:
1. the inability to win the big show. 1 world series in 14 straight division winning years is not going to sit well with the fan base. in lesser words, braves fans got bored with being good but not great.
2. no high profile players. even though i hate john rocker, he was a reason to go to a game because he caused a spark. the braves relaxed fanbase is a reflection of the relaxed clubhouse. the braves need a little chili powder in their melting pot. solution: instead of signing a guy that “fits” in the clubhouse, sign a big name that doesnt fit into the clubhouse. heck, it might put a few extra butts in the stands and give the fans something to get pumped up about. the last risky signing we had as far as “attitude” is concerned was gary sheffield. sheffield put up great numbers here and probably helped sell some tickets along the way. the term “clubhouse cancer” is overworked and good teams deal with controversy well, and i’m sure the braves could look over a little attitude, in turn for production.
a little media hype in atlanta would be a good thing.
Very wishful thinking. I hope we can at least win two of these three series if not all of them. it will be tough to do, but it can be done. I’m pulling for my Braves.
Second, the ball was hit down the right field line. In another park, it would have at least been a double down the line, possibly a triple (green can run). So it wasnt like Bennett would have escaped trouble.
In Turner Field it would have been a routine fly ball out, 30 feet short of the warning track. The wind was blowing in over the Green Monster towards the right field line. It had just knocked KJ’s ball down (from a HR to a double). The Pesky Pole is only 295 feet from homeplate the wind just curled the ball around the pole for a 300 foot HR>
I have to agree with ryan c’s assessment of Atlanta’s fan base. I currently live on the North Side of Chicago and have lived in Boston (as well as growing up in Atlanta). A much smaller percentage of Atlanta’s population grew up in the city; they did not grow up as fans of the Braves. Chicago (and Boston) are in many ways much more provincial; a large percentage of the population have never lived elsewhere.
Secondly, the geography of stadiums is crucial. Stadiums right on a subway line and in the middle of town have multiple things going for them. One, access for the last minute attendee. Two, no worries about getting home after drinking a great deal at a game (which can lead to more boisterous support). Three, more people live within proximity to the stadium. The population density of these cities is much greater. The fan base is not so dispersed. There is not the time commitment and necessary schlepping to get to/from the stadium.
Frankly, I enjoy the laid back atmosphere of Turner Field far more than the crowds at Wrigley.
the braves need to play to their ability, which i believe is better than what they’ve shown. they’ve underachieved so far. maybe the smoltz situation disheartened them more than we think, and the glavine deal freshened that wound. I, for one, think this current group can and will play much better.
Holy chit, I come check on the blog and what do I find? Peter Paul Lentz still causing trouble. For those who missed it, he is now known as Peter Paul cause he always has his peter in his hand. Walks around like that in public.
Dude, just go AWAY! Everybody has DVR now for chrissakes! And you can NEVER say a ball “should” have been a home run! since you know so much about baseball, I’m sure you know that the average team has about 6,000 plate appearances in a season. the BEST power teams hit a little over 200 home runs. This means home runs are hit 3% of the time on the BEST power hitting teams. Even a 40 HR guy, of which there are almost none any more, hits a home run in about 7% of his plate appearances. You can never EXPECT a HR, regardless of pitch location.
But, since you watch MLB Extra Innings, you knew that.
1) I gave him the Cot’s Baseball Contracts figures for Tim Hudson’s salary in ‘09 and ‘10. He said that I was correct, but he then proceeded to use the ESPN.com numbers again in a succeeding post.
2) He has used, at various times, three spellings of Francoeur (Franceour, Francoeur, Francouer) for entire posts.
It is possible that I am setting the bar too high for someone who claims to educate himself so as to be well-informed about baseball. If this is so, then the fault is most assuredly mine.
If not, he’s a ****ing ****.
If he’s the figment of someone’s imagination (more enjoyable than any of the other possible scenarios), then I tip my cap.
Good point at 1:55. Living in Philly and attending Phillies games whenever they play the Braves or whenever I feel like putting up with their ignorant fans, I’ve realized they appeal to my age group (20-30 year olds) quite well. Tailgating is quite popular around these parts for Phillies games, and they cater to the college/young professional crowd as well as the family crowd. Never been to the Ted, but I could understand what you mean by appealing to certain crowds, and the Phillies do well with the atmosphere in and out of the stadium. Different way of following sports up here is what I presume. Intense fans who are pretty irrational and stupid for the most part, but dedicated to attending games nonetheless. That can be a whole other argument. I digress living up North my entire life, not really understanding the way of life down south with ya’ll.
cant anybody tell me why all of these upcoming games are all on peachtree tv? thanks for screwing us fans out of metro atl out of watching our team play the most exciting series of the season. yea real smart, how many people get flippin peachtree anyways?
Don’t bother- I’ve also given him the Cot’s contracts, which he has decided to ignore for whatever reason, and Francoeur is not the only name he seems hell-bent on misspelling. Don’t waste your time
McLouth of the South…………200 homers out of 6000 plate appearances for a good home run hitting team averages out to 1 homer for every 30 at-bats for the team. Francoeur has hit 4 homers in 253 at bats this season. That averages out to be 1 homer for every 63 at-bats. Now that is more than twice as many at-bats as the “average” for a good home run hitting team. MORE THAN TWICE. Now what does that say about Francoeur?
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Tomahawkin
June 23rd, 2009
1:44 pm
Joe (Shoyo-Wang)
“but we braves fans as a whole could be more intense. i know i am.”
I guess you haven’t seen Me During Primetime on this Blog…Most of the Veterans of this blog will probably agree that I may the Hypest Person on here. Especially During the Later Innings…I’m Off The Chain…!
I live and Die With Them Braves…You gotta Be loyal to your Roots! And Don’t get me into watching SEC Games…
joe(shoyo wang)
June 23rd, 2009
1:46 pm
hopefully, braves fans show up and show that they are great fans for this series and the next, and the next, and even when the nationals are in town.
Chop Chop
June 23rd, 2009
1:46 pm
This “succint” word sounds a little like “suck it,” doesn’t it?
If I were to use it in a paragraph, I could type this:
“As a baby, Paul Lentz was weaned on lead-based paints. Thus, being forced by his mother to succint, Paul rapidly developed the mental acuity of a nuclear blast-proof shelter. We are all witnesses to this phenomenon.”
AndyC
June 23rd, 2009
1:47 pm
Tomahawkin
That may be true about the Cubs historically being louder at the Ted…but I guess the question is are we going to get a repeat with the Yanks and Sox. I can’t remember specifically how those fans have turned out in the past at the Ted.
TnBrian
June 23rd, 2009
1:47 pm
Brian Jordan, I think you’ve found your calling…as the worst TV personality for 2008-2009.
Tomahawkin'd
June 23rd, 2009
1:48 pm
…I’m Off The Chain…!Tomahawkin
What? How did you get out of jail?
Tomahawkin
June 23rd, 2009
1:49 pm
Chop Chop…
Whats Happening Chief…!
To Me this Homestand IS like a mini-playoff we gotta come Correct…I’m gonna Be Live Because I hate Losing to the Bankees!!!
I’m Suprised their Bandwagon fans aren’t On here…
Because We all know They live in packs here in the “A”
joe(shoyo wang)
June 23rd, 2009
1:49 pm
tomahawkin…i know you are! i am too. i live and die with the braves. i hate em, i love em at about a .490 pace. but overall, cant live without em. obviously, people on a blog are pretty intense fans.
we need to clone about 45 K more of us and show up at Turner every night! yes, and even paul lentz, cuz he is a thickheaded, but nevertheless intense braves fan.
Jersey Gil
June 23rd, 2009
1:50 pm
DOB…I just was reading the News paper in Puerto rico, They say that with the Win last night Vazquez has 132 Win in the Major, Now he’s Second in All Puerto Rican Pitcher History in Winning. First with 177 is John Candelaria & Third is Juan Pizarro.
getsomepower
June 23rd, 2009
1:51 pm
Go Braves!!!! Let’s give the Yanks, Red Sox and Phillies all that they want!!!!! And maybe pull out a few wins.
joe(shoyo wang)
June 23rd, 2009
1:51 pm
by the way, ill be getting rid of the “shoyo wang” after tonight’s game.
Tomahawkin
June 23rd, 2009
1:52 pm
Andy C
Word Of Mouf Is Cubs, Bankees, And Red Sox Fans Don’t want to overpay for seating at their Respective home parks especially if they are transplants, therefore they invade other parks where the costs are cheaper and the seats are easier to come by…
Tomahawkin’d
Since I’m in such a good mood I’m gonna Ignore that last Garbage post…
joe(shoyo wang)
June 23rd, 2009
1:53 pm
i say we sweep the yankees, win 2 of 3 from red sox, and 2 of 3 from phillies. 8-2 baby. wishful thinking? in baseball, anything can happen.
Paul Lentz
June 23rd, 2009
1:54 pm
I get my salary figures from the player profiles on espn.com. If you will go check, you will see that they have Tim Hudson listed as making $15.5 mil this year. Also, they have Kawakami listed as making $8.333 mil. So, if what I’m posting is incorrect, then blame espn.com……..not me.
CB
June 23rd, 2009
1:54 pm
Chop Chop- funny stuff.
Baby Jesus
June 23rd, 2009
1:55 pm
All this fighting makes me cry.
Heath (Cleveland)
June 23rd, 2009
1:55 pm
Chop Chop… not exactly what I had in mind…
Pennski
June 23rd, 2009
1:55 pm
Paul it doesn’t matter. You put it on the board, you are responsible for it. Those are just the facts of blogging…
Tomahawkin
June 23rd, 2009
1:55 pm
Joe (Shayo-Wang)
I think More People, My age 20’s Crowd would go to the games if the fan experience was better…Thats not an excuse but I hate the corporate Crowds that predominate the fandom at Tooner Field…
Give it an SEC tailgating/football atmosphere then more people my age would come…
Steve from OH
June 23rd, 2009
1:55 pm
Or we can blame you for going to a lesser site…as mlbcontracts.blogspot.com has more correct and up-to-date information…
ryan c
June 23rd, 2009
1:56 pm
atlanta is a melting pot of many cities all over the country, so the fan base is not as strong as many other cities. plus, turner field has absolutely no “walk up attendance” so there arent many “spur of the moment” fans. atlanta’s fan enthusiasm and attendance have been just average for quite some time. i blame it on 2 things:
1. the inability to win the big show. 1 world series in 14 straight division winning years is not going to sit well with the fan base. in lesser words, braves fans got bored with being good but not great.
2. no high profile players. even though i hate john rocker, he was a reason to go to a game because he caused a spark. the braves relaxed fanbase is a reflection of the relaxed clubhouse. the braves need a little chili powder in their melting pot. solution: instead of signing a guy that “fits” in the clubhouse, sign a big name that doesnt fit into the clubhouse. heck, it might put a few extra butts in the stands and give the fans something to get pumped up about. the last risky signing we had as far as “attitude” is concerned was gary sheffield. sheffield put up great numbers here and probably helped sell some tickets along the way. the term “clubhouse cancer” is overworked and good teams deal with controversy well, and i’m sure the braves could look over a little attitude, in turn for production.
a little media hype in atlanta would be a good thing.
joe(shoyo wang)
June 23rd, 2009
1:56 pm
tomahawkin…can’t argue with you there
Heath (Cleveland)
June 23rd, 2009
1:57 pm
@;-
test
Heath (Cleveland)
June 23rd, 2009
1:57 pm
@};-
NO MORE BOBBY
June 23rd, 2009
1:59 pm
Why does everyone flock to the blogs of DOB when there are better topics and newer ones on here from other writers? Is this the trendy one to be on?
Heath (Cleveland)
June 23rd, 2009
1:59 pm
hmmmm….not working.
@;}-
senior frogs
June 23rd, 2009
1:59 pm
8-2?:O we got some major homers here, try 2-8 that sounds a bit more realistic
getsomepower
June 23rd, 2009
1:59 pm
joe(shoyo wang)
Very wishful thinking. I hope we can at least win two of these three series if not all of them. it will be tough to do, but it can be done. I’m pulling for my Braves.
Heath (Cleveland)
June 23rd, 2009
2:00 pm
@;{-
Heath (Cleveland)
June 23rd, 2009
2:02 pm
>:D< Hug?
<):) Cowboy?
keylargo
June 23rd, 2009
2:03 pm
Second, the ball was hit down the right field line. In another park, it would have at least been a double down the line, possibly a triple (green can run). So it wasnt like Bennett would have escaped trouble.
In Turner Field it would have been a routine fly ball out, 30 feet short of the warning track. The wind was blowing in over the Green Monster towards the right field line. It had just knocked KJ’s ball down (from a HR to a double). The Pesky Pole is only 295 feet from homeplate the wind just curled the ball around the pole for a 300 foot HR>
Heath (Cleveland)
June 23rd, 2009
2:04 pm
Ahhh… sorry…stealing blog space to try some crap that isn’t working
cabravesfan
June 23rd, 2009
2:05 pm
Heath (Cleveland)-
don’t worry about it- it’s still better then about half teh stuff that’s been posted today
LuisG
June 23rd, 2009
2:05 pm
When’s the new blog coming?
cricket
June 23rd, 2009
2:05 pm
Bobby’s leading the ESPN poll
http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/post/_/id/4276675/espn-20-years-baseball
joe(shoyo wang)
June 23rd, 2009
2:07 pm
i mean, our pitching is most likely going to keep us in most of these games, if not all of them. its up to our offense to get it done. it can be done.
i’d rather be wishfully thinking than constantly obsessing over a 3-7 homestand, right?
CB
June 23rd, 2009
2:08 pm
Heath, a lot of us steal blog space
Moe Berg
June 23rd, 2009
2:09 pm
I have to agree with ryan c’s assessment of Atlanta’s fan base. I currently live on the North Side of Chicago and have lived in Boston (as well as growing up in Atlanta). A much smaller percentage of Atlanta’s population grew up in the city; they did not grow up as fans of the Braves. Chicago (and Boston) are in many ways much more provincial; a large percentage of the population have never lived elsewhere.
Secondly, the geography of stadiums is crucial. Stadiums right on a subway line and in the middle of town have multiple things going for them. One, access for the last minute attendee. Two, no worries about getting home after drinking a great deal at a game (which can lead to more boisterous support). Three, more people live within proximity to the stadium. The population density of these cities is much greater. The fan base is not so dispersed. There is not the time commitment and necessary schlepping to get to/from the stadium.
Frankly, I enjoy the laid back atmosphere of Turner Field far more than the crowds at Wrigley.
joe(shoyo wang)
June 23rd, 2009
2:11 pm
the braves need to play to their ability, which i believe is better than what they’ve shown. they’ve underachieved so far. maybe the smoltz situation disheartened them more than we think, and the glavine deal freshened that wound. I, for one, think this current group can and will play much better.
McFann :Ô:
June 23rd, 2009
2:15 pm
B-rockGT–
I’ll see if I cann get it…my browser’s going kinda slow all of the sudden…
McLouth of the South
June 23rd, 2009
2:16 pm
Holy chit, I come check on the blog and what do I find? Peter Paul Lentz still causing trouble. For those who missed it, he is now known as Peter Paul cause he always has his peter in his hand. Walks around like that in public.
Dude, just go AWAY! Everybody has DVR now for chrissakes! And you can NEVER say a ball “should” have been a home run! since you know so much about baseball, I’m sure you know that the average team has about 6,000 plate appearances in a season. the BEST power teams hit a little over 200 home runs. This means home runs are hit 3% of the time on the BEST power hitting teams. Even a 40 HR guy, of which there are almost none any more, hits a home run in about 7% of his plate appearances. You can never EXPECT a HR, regardless of pitch location.
But, since you watch MLB Extra Innings, you knew that.
Chop Chop
June 23rd, 2009
2:16 pm
Steve from OH,
I have two issues with Paul:
1) I gave him the Cot’s Baseball Contracts figures for Tim Hudson’s salary in ‘09 and ‘10. He said that I was correct, but he then proceeded to use the ESPN.com numbers again in a succeeding post.
2) He has used, at various times, three spellings of Francoeur (Franceour, Francoeur, Francouer) for entire posts.
It is possible that I am setting the bar too high for someone who claims to educate himself so as to be well-informed about baseball. If this is so, then the fault is most assuredly mine.
If not, he’s a ****ing ****.
If he’s the figment of someone’s imagination (more enjoyable than any of the other possible scenarios), then I tip my cap.
AndyC
June 23rd, 2009
2:16 pm
Baby Jesus
We like to fight so you can suck it!
pryguy
June 23rd, 2009
2:17 pm
Tomahawkin,
Good point at 1:55. Living in Philly and attending Phillies games whenever they play the Braves or whenever I feel like putting up with their ignorant fans, I’ve realized they appeal to my age group (20-30 year olds) quite well. Tailgating is quite popular around these parts for Phillies games, and they cater to the college/young professional crowd as well as the family crowd. Never been to the Ted, but I could understand what you mean by appealing to certain crowds, and the Phillies do well with the atmosphere in and out of the stadium. Different way of following sports up here is what I presume. Intense fans who are pretty irrational and stupid for the most part, but dedicated to attending games nonetheless. That can be a whole other argument. I digress living up North my entire life, not really understanding the way of life down south with ya’ll.
David O'Brien
June 23rd, 2009
2:18 pm
NEW BLOG
Heath (Cleveland)
June 23rd, 2009
2:19 pm
Any hints from anyone on my tests?
AndyC
June 23rd, 2009
2:19 pm
Baby Jesus
Sorry….just kidding about the whole sucking it thing….
cphizzle
June 23rd, 2009
2:20 pm
cant anybody tell me why all of these upcoming games are all on peachtree tv? thanks for screwing us fans out of metro atl out of watching our team play the most exciting series of the season. yea real smart, how many people get flippin peachtree anyways?
cabravesfan
June 23rd, 2009
2:21 pm
Chop Chop-
Don’t bother- I’ve also given him the Cot’s contracts, which he has decided to ignore for whatever reason, and Francoeur is not the only name he seems hell-bent on misspelling. Don’t waste your time
Paul Lentz
June 23rd, 2009
2:24 pm
McLouth of the South…………200 homers out of 6000 plate appearances for a good home run hitting team averages out to 1 homer for every 30 at-bats for the team. Francoeur has hit 4 homers in 253 at bats this season. That averages out to be 1 homer for every 63 at-bats. Now that is more than twice as many at-bats as the “average” for a good home run hitting team. MORE THAN TWICE. Now what does that say about Francoeur?
dub
July 3rd, 2009
9:36 pm
well i guess chipper head was in the game tonight