Here in rainy Boston….

Boston — Hello from rainy Beantown in the New England corner of Japan, or at least it will feel that way tonight in the pressbox for this highly anticipated (at least by baseball lovers in Chunichi and Tokyo) showdown between your own Kenshin Kawakami and the Red Sox’ “Dice-K” Matsuzaka.

Kawakami vs. Matsuzaka: This one's for Japan (or something)

The overflow Asian media contingent turned out for the spring training matchup between these two pitchers at Dark Star, and we’re expecting at least twice as many reporters tonight for this one (though by “we,” I’m talking about a fairly small and unscientific polling of me and some guy who just started the coffee in the back of the pressbox, thereby winning a place in my heart — and the poll).

Even after my cab driver took the most circuitous route imaginable to get the Fenway (he said something about a major artery being turned into a one-way street because of a bridge that collapsed or was being repaired or blah blah something else I’m sorry sir yeah whatever are we almost there oh there’s the Citgo sign thank God….)

Anyway, I’m guessing that more of you would be more fired up about this pitching matchup if Dice-K didn’t sort of reek this season and if Kawakami wasn’t sort of mediocre and, oh, yeah, if the Braves weren’t spiraling in a free-fall that was mercifully broken up by yesterday’s 7-0 sweep-averting win at Cincy, which they can only hope was the sign of something good to come rather than the sort of blip that such wins have been more often during recent weeks of the season that feels like it’s near a precipice.

Do you feel that way? No, not that Dice-K stinks so far this season; that parts indisputable, given his 1-4 record and 7.55 ERA, including his 0-3 record in three starts at Fenway with that team and that crowd in his corner (though I’m guessing the good folks at the Fens haven’t been so much in his corner this year).

And no, not that Kawakami has been pretty mediocre — though not quite as bad as some have portrayed. Dude is 2-3 in his past eight starts despite a respectable 3.40 ERA in that span. The Braves scored one or no runs while he was in five of those games.

Although lately, he’s not been too scintillating himself, going 0-1 with a 4.10 ERA and .300 opponents’ average in his past four starts.

But, hey, someone’s gotta win tonight, right? Well, unless Mother Nature does. Yes, more rain in the forecast tonight, tomorrow and Sunday. If we get in three, the groundskeepers deserve a medal. Or a day in the sunshine.

Still, as hot as it was getting in Georgia this weekend, temps in the 60s here does feel pretty good. Wet, but good.

Malaise, cont.: Speaking of malaise (we were, yesterday), the Braves are in such a nasty offensive funk that it appears to have finally started to wear on their starting pitchers. I am of the belief, seriously, that guys can only go so many weeks of pitching well and getting no run support, of always feeling like they’re pitching with no margin for error, before they start to crack.

Maybe just a start here or a few starts in a row there, but I’ve seen it too many times in the past. Seen it in recent weeks with Lowe, Jurrjens, Vazquez in a few starts, and maybe even Kawakami (though he hasn’t pitched as well as those other three, obviously, at any point in the season for any significant stretch.)

How bad is this lineup right now?

Consider that even after yesterday’s seven-run outburst at Great American Small Park in Cincy — the park’s slogan should be: If you can’t hit there, you can’t hit anywhere – the Braves still have only two players who’ve hit as high as .270 in five games or more in June.

That’s Brian McCann (.333 with a .396 OBP and .521 slugging in 14 games) and Martin Prado (.308 with a .372 OBP and .436 slugging in 12 games).

David Ross has hit .417 with two homers in 12 at-bats and five games, but no other Brave has hit above .268 in more than three games. That’s .268!

Compare that to, say, the Red Sox, since we’re here. The Sox have five hitters who’ve hit .314 or higher in 10 or more games this month, all with OBPs of .438 or higher.

With the exception of McCann and Chipper, the Braves don’t know anything about .438 OBPs. Haven’t in a long time.

The bottom half of the Braves’ lineup has been dreadful this season, and dropping Kelly Johnson down there certainly hasn’t perked up either him or it (the bottom half of the order).

As much as we’ve chronicled Jeff Franceoeur’s demise, he’s hardly along in the extended-slump category. Jeff, say hello to Kelly: Johnson has hit .218 (26-for-119) with two homers, 10 RBI and a .260 OBP in his past 31 games.

In his past 20 games, Johnson has hit .193 with no homers, five RBI, a .236 OBP and a .313 slugging percentage. The Braves are 7-13 in those games.

As Chipper said a week ago, when he’s out of the lineup or struggling and McCann’s not carrying the offense, or vice-versa, the Braves are generally in bad shape.

Well, Chipper has hit .129 (4-for-31) with one double, no RBI, a .229 OBP and .161 slugging percentage in his past eight games. This after hitting .483 in the previous eight, with four homers, 14 RBI and a .571 OBP and 1.000 slugging percentage.

Talk about your wild rollercoaster ride. That’s eight games on fire, followed immediately by an eight-game skid that’s most un-Hossian.

Chasing one’s tail: I’ve had this sense these past couple of seasons watching Bobby Cox and the Braves, the sense that Bobby is sort of chasing his tail, trying to recapture one more moment of postseason glory rather than go out on a down note.

But it doesn’t look like he’s any closer to catching that tail and returning to the postseason, even though the wild-card race is obviously wide open for any team that can play decent ball the rest of the way.

Anyway, I get the same sort of feeling these days with every new development in the Tom Glavine saga. Now he’s indicated that he won’t pitch again this season, but that he’s not ready to retire and won’t rule out pitching again next season.

I have a hard time believing he will pitch again in the majors. The great lefty looked done this spring, and now, he’s 44 and can’t seem to catch that tail or come close, despite all his best intentions and efforts.

I looked up the stats today on Glavine’s late-career slide. The man’s a first-ballot Hall-of-Famer regardless of what happens, obviously.

But still, this is tough to watch at this point. Consider that since May 24, 2007, Glavine is 10-11 with a 5.09 ERA in 37 starts, with 229 hits, 81 walks and 95 strikeouts in 203-1/3 innings.

And since Sept. 20, 2007, he’s 2-6 with a 6.84 ERA in 16 starts, with a .322 opponents’ average and almost as many walks (41) as strikeouts (44).

Through Sept., 19, 2007, Glavine had a career record of 303-197 with a 3.48 ERA.

Now, it’s 305-203 with a 3.54 ERA.

I’ve got a strong feeling it’ll stay there, forever.

OK, gotta get down to clubhouse, go see if Smoltz has anything to say, etc.
Had a great week back in Atlanta. Got to do a lot of riding, saw a couple of great shows (Steve Earle, great until rained out after 45 minutes, and Andrew Bird/Calexico, terrific show at that nice Cobb theatre).

Oh, and you haven’t seen The Hangover, you should do so (unless you can’t handle crude humor, in which case, don’t). Hilarious movie.

Finally, any of you Radiohead fans really should try a band called White Rabbits, a CD titled It’s Frightening. It’s not frightening, but it’s outstanding.

Greg Brown


“WHO WOULDA THUNK IT?” By Greg Brown

We used to say I could walk all night,
and we could and we did
Down that gravel road, to that tiny town,
and the door always opened
Now we say I could walk all night.
It’s not true
We can’t walk all night, no,
because we don’t want to
We want a bed and a blanket, some light breakfast, sometime tomorrow
We want a bed and a blanket, some light breakfast, sometime tomorrow
And I sing it now, hey hey, hey hey, who woulda thunk it
Hey hey, hey hey, who woulda thunk it

We used to say I could eat a horse, and we could and we did
In fast food joints in the middle of someplace on the way to someplace else
Now we say I could eat a horse.
It’s not true We can’t eat a horse, no, because we don’t want to
We want somethin from the cookbook, that new one with the great graphics
Somethin from the cookbook, that new one with the great graphics
Oh and I sing it now, hey hey, hey hey, who woulda thunk it
Hey hey, hey hey, who woulda thunk it

We used to say I don’t care if I never have any money
As long as I have my sweet honey and a shack in the woodland
Now we say I don’t care if I don’t have money, but it’s not true
We can’t live without money, no,
because we don’t want to
We want one of those and two of those, and oh that one looks neat, wrap it up
Put it on my MasterCard.
Put it on my Visa
And I sing it now, hey hey, hey hey, who woulda thunk it
Hey hey, hey hey, who woulda thunk it Hey hey, hey hey
Hey hey, hey hey now, who woulda thunk it

We used to say I don’t care if I never grow old
I’m gonna flame, gonna burn, take one quick turn and be gone like James Dean
Now we don’t say that. It’s too late to die young
So we sit at the table long after supper and a good wine
Here’s what we sing, we go, hey hey, hey hey, who woulda thunk it
Hey hey, hey hey, who woulda thunk it

1,699 comments Add your comment

Coach ( 2010 or Bust)

June 19th, 2009
3:59 pm

O no…..not another blog :)

O’Brien is baaaaaaaccK!

McFann :Ô:

June 19th, 2009
4:00 pm

Thanks for the new Blog, Chief! And welcome back!

Nervous about tonight, but hey, could be fun…

Renegator

June 19th, 2009
4:02 pm

Welcome back DOB. Miss us?

The Love Child of Dale Murphy and Johnny Cash

June 19th, 2009
4:03 pm

DOB,
How could you be off last weekend and not take in Bonnaroo in my lovely hometown?

SoWeGa Fanatic

June 19th, 2009
4:03 pm

“Whoa, I’m old enough to be your Dad. Lol.

“My mom was 19 when she had me so I guess she would have been graduating around 71 or 72.”

Uh-oh, this is getting scary. You don’t have hazel eyes, do you????

fleming

June 19th, 2009
4:05 pm

From the last blog-

siskel_god – If he ever learns to hit without getting into an 0-2 hole he may be alright.

Don’t you read the blog. Everyone here complains mightily that Frenchy doesn’t “Work the Count”. If the pitcher throws strikes and you are “Working the Count” then how do you keep from getting 2 strikes when hitting?

getsomepower

June 19th, 2009
4:05 pm

My three trade proposals:

Francoeur, 2 prospects for Jermaine Dye
Francoeur, Kelly Johnson, and a prospect for Matt Holliday and PTBNL
Kotchman and 2 prospects for Victor Martinez

Homer

June 19th, 2009
4:05 pm

McFann :Ô:

June 19th, 2009
4:06 pm

FIRE HOMER!!!

njbraves

June 19th, 2009
4:10 pm

getsomepower….every one of your three proposals would be laughed at and turned down. You really think Kotchman and 2 minor leaguers is enough to get Victor Martinez? Really? Are you dealing Hanson and/or Heyward in any of these deals?

Gil In Mechanicsville

June 19th, 2009
4:10 pm

Maybe the Braves could trade Kelly Johnson and JoJo Ryes to Philly for the Phanatic… Would boost attendance in Atlanta more than the cow….

Salamander

June 19th, 2009
4:10 pm

DOB, I’d also suggest that the new White Rabbits album sounds a lot like Spoon… which makes sense given that Britt Daniel from Spoon produced it.

AndyC

June 19th, 2009
4:11 pm

DOB

I have been thinking the same thing about Bobby. I don’t think he wants to go out on a losing season. I think he will stay until he gets a winning/playoff season. Doesn’t look good this year so I think we can count on him coming back. The Braves have no choice but to bring him back even if they wanted him to retire. They can’t ask him to leave can they? Well, we saw Smoltz and Glavine leave town on bad terms so why not Bobby?

braves4ever

June 19th, 2009
4:12 pm

We need to do some firing but not on the ole blog ,on the big club!

Anders

June 19th, 2009
4:12 pm

But still, this is tough to watch at this point. Consider that since May 24, 2007, Glavine is 10-11 with a 5.09 ERA in 37 starts, with 229 hits, 81 walks and 95 strikeouts in 203-1/3 innings.
And since Sept. 20, 2007, he’s 2-6 with a 6.84 ERA in 16 starts, with a .322 opponents’ average and almost as many walks (41) as strikeouts (44). (DOB)

Are you kidding me? Seriously? After all the crap you gave me when I said Glavine was done back in 2007 and you threw all this “quality start” through August of 2007 junk at me time after time – now you quote his stats starting with the last 3/4’s of that season as a sign he was done. Really?

Wow. Sorry but that paragraph should have come with a disclaimer imo. Or at least a shout out to you know who (and I don’t mean Chipper).

monty

June 19th, 2009
4:12 pm

I don’t believe the Braves hired “any” of our new pitchers to trade after 1/2 season.

getsomepower

June 19th, 2009
4:12 pm

nj –

Only laughed at by you, and of course I’m not trading Hanson and Heyward in those deals.

Brooklyn Braves Brawler

June 19th, 2009
4:12 pm

Kelly Johnson better not be anywhere near this lineup, tonight!

CB

June 19th, 2009
4:13 pm

That was funny, McFann.

Wayne in Utah

June 19th, 2009
4:13 pm

getsomepower

When you are thinking through who you would like to see us trade for, do you think: “I am the Indian’s GM, and the Braves want Victor M. Who on their roster would I take to deal him?”

Gotta do that and be realistic if you want your trade proposals to not seem too silly.

Salamander

June 19th, 2009
4:13 pm

Anders

Butt hurt much?

Jersey Gil

June 19th, 2009
4:15 pm

Gil In Mechanicsville …LOL

McFann :Ô:

June 19th, 2009
4:16 pm

Brooklyn Braves Brawler

June 19th, 2009
4:16 pm

If the Braves can find a way to get 2 of 3, somehow, someway!

Coach ( 2010 or Bust)

June 19th, 2009
4:17 pm

Monty…

Lowe, Jurrjens, Vasquez, Hanson and Kawakami are locked in.

Tim Hudson will be back and somebody from the above mentioned five will be traded.

monty

June 19th, 2009
4:17 pm

DOB

Great point about the pitchers getting a little frazzled by the lack of run support. Vazquez and Jurrjens especially seem that way as of late. I’m sure KK is just glad to be in America. Lowe will definitely snap at some point if not given support. It wears on your mind feeling like your team won’t be able to recover if you make one mistake.

Dumbfound

June 19th, 2009
4:17 pm

I would trade Kotchman, JoJo Reyes and Gonzo for Jim Thome. There’s your power corners ! And some how get Mark Derosa. It’s going to be hard to get Matt Holiday.

Heath (Cleveland)

June 19th, 2009
4:17 pm

Line-up tonight should be:

1.) McLouth (CF)
2.) Escobar (SS)
3.) Chipper (3B)
4.) McCann (C)
5.) Diaz (LF)
6.) GA (DH)
7.) Kotchman (1B)
8.) Francoeur (RF)
9.) Prado (2B)

No way KJ should be in the line-up.

TnBrian

June 19th, 2009
4:17 pm

Somebody the other night said is pefectly in that if you get past the frustration of this team and accept what they are, wathing them at the plate is a little more tolerable. Can’t remember who said it, maybe uga-brave posted it. Very true.

CLE

June 19th, 2009
4:18 pm

Hey DOB, I was dismayed to read about the fire at the Georgia Theatre today. I got to see Lucinda Williams there about five years ago when I was still living in Athens. Did you get the chance to catch any good shows there?

braves4ever

June 19th, 2009
4:18 pm

“Gil In Mechanicsville
Maybe the Braves could trade Kelly Johnson and JoJo Ryes to Philly for the Phanatic”
Gil, do you think the Phanatic can hit? might be worth it.

McLouth of the South

June 19th, 2009
4:18 pm

From the other blog-

Vazquez for best package of prospects

Francoeur for whatever you can get or send to AAA

Kotchman for LaRoche- PGH might do this straight up after contract review, especially if you agree to take Wilson too and eat the contract. Remember that Kotch + a prospect got Tex last year.

Escobar for Cody Ross + a prospect. You know Florida would love having Esco at SS and Hanley at 3B for the next few seasons, especially with the Cuban population down there.

As for the answer to “why trade Escobar and Kotchman?”

Simple- they are tradeable pieces that don’t fit what we need. You can’t trade junk for anything but junk. These are solid players under team control for a few years and cheap. I think it makes a ton of sense. Funniest thing is that the contracts of LaRoche + Wilson + Ross are almost identical to Vazquez + Kotchman + Francoeur.

getsomepower

June 19th, 2009
4:19 pm

Gosh darn people, this is a blog, not an owner’s meeting.

njbraves

June 19th, 2009
4:19 pm

Getsomepower….you can’t be serious. Do you have any idea how good of a hitter V. Martinez is? Why would the Braves trade for Holliday? So he can leave for a huge contract after the season. Holliday has Boras as an agent, so he will not be signing any extensions. I’m so tired of morons suggesting trades that have zero chance of happening.

Floyd

June 19th, 2009
4:20 pm

Please, for the love of God, let’s make Prado a fixture at second base until Infante returns, at which point we can re-evaluate the situation. I’m a Cox defender, but this is a dealbreaker….if he continues to allow Kelly Johnson to be a black hole in this offense while Prado looks on from the bench, it’s going to be more than I can take. Cox’s apparent infatuation with KJ has reached the point of being inexcusable. Make it stop. Please. I’m begging here.

Renegator

June 19th, 2009
4:20 pm

Woohoo

it’s 4:20

TnBrian

June 19th, 2009
4:20 pm

You guys can bash KJ and Frenchy all you want but Cox is the one that keeps playing them hoping for a breakout from one or both of these guys. I really don’t see the crime in playing Prado everyday and use KJ off the bench. Same goes for Frenchy and have Diaz play regularly. Whatever, he’s the manager and we’re just bored fans on a computer.

CB

June 19th, 2009
4:20 pm

monty, I agree Braves may have to go out of the box for trade proposals. For all of you out there thinking we would not trade Lowe, you do remember Frank Wren is the GM,right? The man would trade his own mother, and Bobby does not need to feel safe,either.

njbraves

June 19th, 2009
4:22 pm

Anders…why are you on here everyday? You’re a Met fan…everyone on here hates Met fans. Go worry about your own team. we don’t need your little Met updates or your two cents about our team. Loser.

getsomepower

June 19th, 2009
4:22 pm

njbraves

June 19th, 2009
4:19 pm
Getsomepower….you can’t be serious. Do you have any idea how good of a hitter V. Martinez is? Why would the Braves trade for Holliday? So he can leave for a huge contract after the season. Holliday has Boras as an agent, so he will not be signing any extensions. I’m so tired of morons suggesting trades that have zero chance of happening.

You people take this way too seriously. Really. Name calling? That’s childish…and moronic.

getsomepower

June 19th, 2009
4:23 pm

Anders –

Come on the blog as much as you want.

Anders

June 19th, 2009
4:24 pm

njbraves – Hey, there’s worse places to hang out. Like New Jersey for instance.

Coach ( 2010 or Bust)

June 19th, 2009
4:25 pm

McLouth of the South, I don’t necessarily disagree with anyt of the other players you mentioned but Escobar is irreplaceable at the moment.

Yes, Yunel is a head case who seems to have ticked off most if not all of his teammates. Not to mention Bobby Cox. But he is also the reason Atlanta was able to include Elvis Andrus in the Teixiera trade. Trading Escobar now would make no sense in light of what was given up.

Jeff R

June 19th, 2009
4:26 pm

Monty,

I don’t think Hudson’s lock. Coming off elbow surgery and getting close to another another run at a large dollar, multiyear contract may make him expendable.

I will say, though, if Hudson returns to form, I’d figure out a way of moving Kawakami to accomodate him.

Renegator

June 19th, 2009
4:26 pm

Anders:

When I read that snippet from the blog about Glavine’s colapse – I knew you would be hot. You were on here preaching that he was done and DOB was having NONE of it. Looks like he finally came around.

Heath (Cleveland)

June 19th, 2009
4:28 pm

Anders…

Looking at the schedule this weekend, looks like you really only have 1 game where you might be “favored” to win…however, if Santana performs poorly again…the Mets could be staring at a potential sweep against the Rays. What’s the general feeling about how the series will go from Flushing?

McLouth of the South

June 19th, 2009
4:29 pm

Coach, he is not that great defensively. I’d rather have a glove man like Wilson or even Diory in the 8 spot with Bobby’s preferred three-run homer lineup:

McLouth
KJ/Prado
Jones
McCann
Ross
LaRoche
GA/Diaz
Wilson/Hernandez

njbraves

June 19th, 2009
4:29 pm

Good one Anders…..about as much wit as I would expect from a Met fan. Loser.

McFann :Ô:

June 19th, 2009
4:30 pm

OK, stat alert!

I was thinking about this whole uh…doubles thing, and how I had compared BMac’s uh…doubles total this season to those of past season after a certain number of AB. Then I got to thinking that 2006 would be the best season to compare this year’s stats to, since he spent time on the DL that year as well. And at this point in ‘06, he had roughly the same number of AB as he does thus far this year.

Through June 18, 2006 (146 AB): 11 uh…doubles, 0 triples, 5 HR, and 21 RBI. (He finished the year with 34 uh…doubles, 0 triples, 24 HR, and 93 RBI.)

Through June 18, 2009 (155 AB): 10 uh…doubles, 1 triple, 6 HR, and 26 RBI.

Pretty dang close…

njbraves

June 19th, 2009
4:31 pm

Getsomepower…maybe we can package KJ and Kotchman and get the Cards to give us Pujols.

jason

June 19th, 2009
4:32 pm

Speaking on the pitchers. I was watching the Braves/Reds game with Vasquez on the mound. He gave up the HR to Bruce early and you could see it written all over his face. OH S%$t, I just cost us the game. He was deflated. Now, I know ATL retook the lead, but you could definitely see the pressure he was under to try and make each pitch perfect, thus why he struggled early in the game with his control.

Frustrated Braves Fan

June 19th, 2009
4:32 pm

Why would you trade Escobar? He’s the 3rd best hitter in you’re lineup. I can’t understand why Johnson and Frenchsucks are still on this team? Could be no other teams want them. As long as they and Anderson are on this team you can forget the playoffs.

getsomepower

June 19th, 2009
4:32 pm

When Huddy comes back, I’d be pitching him out of the bullpen. With the surplus of pitching, I would say bring him along slowly

monty

June 19th, 2009
4:32 pm

Coach

I concur! I just stated earlier that why couldn’t we trade D.Lowe as easily to a pitching starved team in the race(with deep pockets)as we could a younger (Vazquez) an equally as good (IMO)less expensive pitcher.(You would have thought the world was coming to an end by even making that remark). I know Vazquez is a free agent after next season but maybe he would take a contract extension now. I’m sure we would all rather move KK if push came to shove but he is still unproven and therefore probably won’t draw near the interest. If say the Yankees or whoever said, we’ll take D.LOwe and his contract and trade you a young RH powerbat, why wouldn’t you? (Just hypothetically speaking) Seems to me the Yankees could use a very good sinker ball pitcher in that little bandbox they play in.

Dumbfound

June 19th, 2009
4:32 pm

All though Jim Thome is up there in age, He has a least a couple good years left until Freeman is ready to take over firstbase.

Anders

June 19th, 2009
4:33 pm

Heath- I have to say I’m concerned about the Mets. They’ve given away at least 4 games the last week and a half. Granted they have lot’s of injuries but that really had nothing to do with the 4 games. 2 were because of defensive lapses by regulars and the other two were blown by the bullpen the last two nights.

Overall I’ve been happy at how they’ve hung in there during the injuries but I have a feeling they’re headed into a downswing. All the signs are there. They are coming home so maybe they stave it off.

I just want to get to 7/10/09 within 5 games of the top of the division. I’ll sign up for that right now.

Coach ( 2010 or Bust)

June 19th, 2009
4:34 pm

Um in a word , NO. I disagree with the assessment of Escobar’s defense.

Escobar has consistent hands, great range and a strong arm that’s a plus at any infield position. He is also the best athlete on the team.

Tomahawk1310

June 19th, 2009
4:34 pm

DOB

Couldn’t agree with you more about The Hangover. My wife and I were laughing so hard most of the movie and when we weren’t we were smiling waiting to breakout in laughter. Haven’t seen a funny movie like that in a while. We were talking about the movie for the next couple days and laughing. Highly recommended. You won’t be disappionted.

sportsmandh

June 19th, 2009
4:34 pm

Heath,
good lineup

Frustrated Braves Fan

June 19th, 2009
4:35 pm

I agree with Coach. Trading Escobar would be a big mistake. Anderson, Johnson, and Frenchy need to go.

N8

June 19th, 2009
4:35 pm

Anders, you are right. You called it back then. You know it. We all know it. And whether he’ll admit it or not, DOB knows it to.

But here’s the thing. Had the Braves had the “losing it” Tom Glavine in 2007 in their pitching staff to just simply give us those innings, the Braves beat both you guys and the Phillies that year in winning the NL East.

That’s how BAD our backend of our rotation was.

If you disagree, you lose all credibility and “credit” for you calling Glavine “done”. LOL!

jason

June 19th, 2009
4:36 pm

Who cares if Escobar has ticked off his teammates. Escobar is the only consistent offense ATL has. His bone headed plays are a result of trying to hard and being over emotional. What the crap have his teammates done consistent other than SUCK…

brian

June 19th, 2009
4:36 pm

Frustrated – the reason why people have thrown Escobar’s name out there is that if we are going to get something good back in the trade we also have to give up something significant. Chipper and McCann are not going anywhere. Neither are Heyward or Freeman. Aside from a starting pitcher, Escobar would seem to be the trade chip.

Heath (Cleveland)

June 19th, 2009
4:37 pm

Anders:

We would too! LOL

Or course, that ellusive sign-up sheet is no where to be found.

Eware

June 19th, 2009
4:37 pm

njbraves, agreed on the Pujols trade, but I don’t think it’s sweet enough…we’d probably need to throw in Blanco or Barton. Haha.

Coach ( 2010 or Bust)

June 19th, 2009
4:38 pm

Monty, the only problem with the Yankee’s is that they spend most of their money on free agents and have one of the worst farm systems in the game. I’m not sure if the Bronx bombers have anything of value to attract a trade.

VaBravesfan

June 19th, 2009
4:38 pm

McFann: your 4:06, too funny

Frustrated Braves Fan

June 19th, 2009
4:38 pm

Cox benched Escobar for lack of effort. Johnson and French ‘aint should have been benched long ago. No offense from those to at all. You can’t blame TP for the lack of offense from those two. You can’t make Frenchy not swing at the 1st pitch everytime out. You can tell him not to but he does it anyways.

getsomepower

June 19th, 2009
4:39 pm

Braves need 7-6 to keep their heads above water after these next 13 games against Red Sox, Cubs, Phils and Yankees.

Coach ( 2010 or Bust)

June 19th, 2009
4:39 pm

Albert Pujols……traded?

Seriously, that is funny :)

Frustrated Braves Fan

June 19th, 2009
4:40 pm

Brian, I agree, that he would bring good returns. But Freeman doesn’t look like he will be a power hitting or an RBI machine type infielder.

monty

June 19th, 2009
4:40 pm

Trading Escobar only leaves another void to fill, and then you are just getting into “musical voids”.

Bobby's Cox

June 19th, 2009
4:41 pm

DOB,

good blog. You sound like you’re not too happy to be back… maybe it’s the idea of sitting in rain delays all weekend with this awful offense listening to angry bloggers about to complain about how we’re toast this season…Whatever the case, it’s kinda evident by the ramblings of your run on sentences today (which was kinda cool)…

Renegator

June 19th, 2009
4:41 pm

getsomepower

June 19th, 2009
4:39 pm
Braves need 7-6 to keep their heads above water after these next 13 games against Red Sox, Cubs, Phils and Yankees.

Don’t hold your breath. Probably looking at a 5-8, realistically.

cphizzle

June 19th, 2009
4:41 pm

what kinda numbers do we see freeman throwing up?

NEW CARS

June 19th, 2009
4:41 pm

I agree with Coach on Escobar….The only way I would think of trading him is for a similarly talented young guy that needs a new address..Sort of a challenge trade…maybe for the Upton kid….I still believe TP needs to go and we need some fresh blood in the dugout….Frenchy is what he is (an athlete learning baseball), but Kelly is a good hitter who needs to someone to lead him out of the forest…TP is not the man to do that, no more than he was with Jordan….Heck, if he can’t be the pitching coach, bring Leo back as the hitting coach….Something to get some fire back in the dugout…I understand Chipper says he’s not going to first, but if we brought in someone who could add to the team, he might

monty

June 19th, 2009
4:43 pm

Coach

Agreed! Just speaking hypothetically.

Eware

June 19th, 2009
4:43 pm

cphizzle, I know of Alphabits cereal, but not one with numbers, so I don’t know what he’d be throwing up…

Hey, it’s Friday!

Tomahawkin

June 19th, 2009
4:44 pm

Actually Believe It Or Not, The Braves Will come Correct Tonight, “Bank On It”

They Play their Best Baseball when they are expected to lose (Remember the Sweep against the Jays and the last series at Citi Field). It Seems Like the Come correct against the good teams of the game and lay down to the Garbage teams of the league, like we have seen during the last 2 weeks!

That has been a season long trend so far…Braves will take 2 of 3 this series…Maybe they finally have some Momentum Now…

Aight Gotta Go back to Listening to some old Wycleff Jean and Kris Kross…

McFann :Ô:

June 19th, 2009
4:45 pm

VaBravesfan

Thanks!

Heath (Cleveland)

June 19th, 2009
4:46 pm

Would I be wrong in assuming that you would want a better defender at 1B than at 3B?

TennesseePaul

June 19th, 2009
4:46 pm

I concur with the sentiments above. NO WAY KJ should be in this line up tonight.

Having said that, he will probably be in the line up batting clean up or leadoff.

THIS SERIES.....

June 19th, 2009
4:46 pm

This series will set the tone for the next 10 games after it… I say if the take 2 of 3 from the Red Sox then you looking at maybe 8-5, 1 of 3 probably 6-7, get swept 3-10 or 4-9 and the season is officially over. If we sweep this blog immediatly drops all selling talk and begs FW for a FURKING bat….

CharlieAlphaBravo

June 19th, 2009
4:46 pm

Name calling? That’s childish…and moronic. getsomepower

But it’s okay as long as they’re phrased as adjectives?

Bobby's Cox

June 19th, 2009
4:47 pm

Also, thanks for your honesty in your thoughts about Cox and Glavine DOB. I think we all get the same idea about the two. Reminds me of this little black boxer near my ex’s apartment. Whenever we’d walk by the dog would get excited and twirl around in a circle as fast as it could. We didn’t know the dog’s name, but we called it Twister. Having your analogy in mind, maybe I would’ve called it a Coxer, or not…

DAP

June 19th, 2009
4:48 pm

if it comes down to either anderson or johnson in the lineup tonight, which one would you guys for for?

Frustrated Braves Fan

June 19th, 2009
4:48 pm

I don’t know how good this Freeman kid is, but he couldn’t be any worst then KJ. If not Freeman than give Prado more at bats, he’s been solid all year.

Jersey Gil

June 19th, 2009
4:49 pm

Anders…That why i moving out as soon i retired..i going back to GA

THIS SERIES.....

June 19th, 2009
4:50 pm

The Red Sox are going to be the hardest series to win but I say if they Braves can find away to go 3-3 against Boston then 7-5 over the next two weeks isn’t out of the question. However, the Cubs game will be a toss up. At least we get them at home.

cphizzle

June 19th, 2009
4:50 pm

eware…cut it out, you are too much i cant handle the humor and type and the same time

Coach ( 2010 or Bust)

June 19th, 2009
4:51 pm

Yes, I will second the “Hangover”. Go see it. Many crude jokes are to be heard and laughs are to be had!

No really…much gallows humor will be appreciated by all over the course of the next thirteen games.

Good luck to my Bravos tonight, they are gonna need it, I’m out!

Bobby's Cox

June 19th, 2009
4:51 pm

You’d have to think Ross will be the DH tonight, Diaz in LF, and Kelly would be on the bench, you know since it worked yesterday… But we are facing a RH, so who knows.

Cox will probably go with GA in Left, Diaz/Ross as DH, Kelly at 2nd.

Anders

June 19th, 2009
4:52 pm

jersey Gil – You can’t move. You’re the resident good guy from there.

cphizzle

June 19th, 2009
4:52 pm

you gotta go anderson…kj has shown absolute nada since i against the blue jays and thats been a while ago i know i was there

Tomahawkin

June 19th, 2009
4:54 pm

I was Really Against the trade KJ Rumors Speculation on this Blog in the offseason, and boy was I wrong! I dunno what has happened to KJ…

Other than that 10 game spell about 3 weeks ago he has looked lost all season…

I’m Suprised There are not Red Faux Trolls on here yet…

cphizzle

June 19th, 2009
4:54 pm

we deserve more than a monkey with a wrench

sportsmandh

June 19th, 2009
4:54 pm

NEW CARS,

How can Frency be ‘an athlete learning baseball’? It’s clear he’s not learning anything. He’s been up here 4 years and has digressed in all phases of the game.

Guessing Game

June 19th, 2009
4:56 pm

Charlie Alpha Bravo, good stab.

Jersey Gil

June 19th, 2009
4:56 pm

Anders..no i’m missing my Kids & Grandson…They Live in Woodstock GA.
And the Taxes is Killing me here…

Chop Chop

June 19th, 2009
4:57 pm

Jeff Francoeur:

“I used to be the Golden Boy, but I digress.”

It would be better if he would digress instead of regress.

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