12:35 pm June 18, 2009, by Carroll Rogers
June 18th, 20093:38 pm
i agree, epinephrine, thats who i would put in. he hasnt pitched in a while
June 18th, 20093:39 pm
Where have you been seeing Chipper haters? Talk about a straw man.
Diaz strikes out, Prado grounds out, Frenchy up
Wayne in Utah
Would love to see Hanson get one more inning, but I don’t think it’s gonna happen. Would love to see Medlen get a few innings in.
June 18th, 20093:41 pm
We don’t need Tommy out there again. You have to remember also we want to limit his innings. Come August and September, the brass is going to be seeking to limit his IP to prevent injuries. Not only is he a rookie, but he pitched in the AFL last year too. We are hopefully going to be seeing Hanson for years to come. Now isn’t the time to go all Mark Prior on him.
Frenchy strikes out to end the top of the 7th, strands Chipper at 2nd.
Piedmont Blues (ex-BFIR)
It would be way cool to see Hanson pitch a CG too, but let him do it when he’s thrown 79 pitches after 6 innings, not 99. Expecting him to throw 140 this early in his career is inviting injury.
That was borderline Jeff…..shake it off pal.
Medlen basically had a start (81 pitches in 4 IP) on Sunday. I can’t imagine that he would be used today unless this game went to extras.
Don’t worry about trying to score anymore runs guys….
June 18th, 20093:42 pm
lol, I typed that when Frenchy came up to bat, just had to hit submit when it actually happened.
June 18th, 20093:43 pm
Thatwas not a strike. I’m glad JF didn’t swing. He’ll be better for it.
I hear ya about the not burning him out early, but one more inning won’t kill him. Limit him in the close ones.
Medlen effectively pitched a full game a few days ago in relief…wasn’t it 81 pitches or something like that?
Back in my day, we threw 160 pitches a start…and we liked it!
Oh well, good game Tommy. Oh crap, Moylan.
June 18th, 20093:44 pm
Epinephrine: I have noticed a couple of repeat posters who seem to think that traiding Chipper would “help” this team. Not exactly the best idea floated on this blog in the recent weeks.
Tor-Phi… 5-5. Top of the 7th…1 out.
June 18th, 20093:45 pm
moylan= gene garber, never met a rally he couldn’t start
June 18th, 20093:46 pm
Eh, they should have let Tommy at least pitch 7 innings…why is 100 pitches the magical #? Who died and decided that anyway?
June 18th, 20093:47 pm
It’s sad to me when a guy throwing a shutout comes out of the game after 6IP and only 99 pitches. This pitch count mess does not build enough arm strengh and only makes them weaker.
June 18th, 20093:48 pm
Hanson’s ERA down to a very respectable 4.08. WHIP down to 1.58 and looks like he is staring at a 2-0 major league record as well. Not bad. That bad taste in the mouth from letting the other guy go is quickly disapating.
Before Toronto faced Philly, they had been 0-6 against the NL East (sweeps by the braves and marlins). Glad they found their swing at the right time!
Good game for Tommy. Definitely a confidence booster.
June 18th, 20093:49 pm
If phillies lose theyll keep pace with your brain.
Mixxo. I have to disagree with you. Diaz gets cheated every day that he is not starting. : ) Seriously though, I get what you ment.
June 18th, 20093:50 pm
Guys. Relax on Tommy coming out of the game. It’d be one thing if it were a veteran pitcher.
Let’s try this again. There is a HIGH CORRELATION between ROOKIE PITCHERS THROWING EXCESSIVE INNINGS and SIGNIFICANT INJURY TROUBLE.
Odds are that we win this game whether he stays in or not. But leaving him in for this victory, at the risk of turning him into the next Kerry Wood or Mark Prior, is just silly.
Back in my day, we threw 160 pitches a start…and we liked it! – Hoss Radbourn
Roger that Mr. Hoss!
*spits on the porch*
Ghost of Braves Past
How in heavens name did the Braves lose two of three to this pathetic bunch of Triple A hitters? So many automatic outs in the Reds line-up.
Jays leave bases loaded in 7th. Still tied.
June 18th, 20093:51 pm
I hope so, too. Last time I was at Fenway the Braves lost the first game like 19 to 0, or something like that. I immediately bought tickets to the second game and the Braves returned the favor. It was pretty awesome.
On another note, I’m also seeing Smolt’s DC debut in person. I’m going with a bunch of friends here who are all Red Sox fans.
June 18th, 20093:52 pm
Moylan gets out of the 7th with no damage. Sounded like he was pitching pretty well, actually. Staying ahead of the hitters, etc.
June 18th, 20093:53 pm
I hear ya Heath. Maybe it’s time to give him a go a some more rightys.
June 18th, 20093:54 pm
Lol seems like KJ walks in every game I actually get to watch on TV. Doesn’t affect my decision, KJ isn’t really any more of a liability than GA anyway, in fact KJ is probably more likely to hit the ball in the air and avoid a DP. Keeping Chipper fresh and more out of harm’s way by DHing him would still be the smart thing to do.
rob from sc
I don’t think they hit Tommy very hard today. Tons of weak popups. Only 2 strikeouts, but I think he is pitching to contact right now until he gets comfortable. MAinly curveballs and fastballs. I expect him to begin throwing more sliders and striking out more people in his next few starts. He doesn’t give up many solid hits. Once he gets his control down he will be hard to score against.
June 18th, 20093:55 pm
Would love to know a scouts take on whether Hanson will be a huge strikeout guy in the majors.
June 18th, 20093:57 pm
Since I am in the mood for spitting out stats today…here are Matt Diaz’s career numbers:
G | AB | R | H | 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS
391 1023 119 312 48 9 25 119 48 192 16 8 .305 .345 .443 .787
Folks…that’s numbers that have been accumulated since 2003…and that is enough games played to be 2.5 full seasons. I can not emphasize enough that unless a trade is made, we have a good solution for LF. I would take those numbers from my LF. Wouldn’t hesitate. Especially since he makes LESS THAN $1.3M!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i guess hanson is our stopper now.
June 18th, 20093:58 pm
Braves go quickly in the top of the 8th. Still 7 – 0.
June 18th, 20093:59 pm
That was a joke. But from your comment it is obvious that your IQ is too low for you to understand it.
Well, thanks for providing the stimulus to wake me up this boring afternoon at work, worked better than coffee – finally a tough guy internet abuser with no imagination or a shred of class contributes something useful to the universe.
Professional at bat by Loaf. Go up there, take a pitch, hit a weak fly ball. Collect his paycheck. Get rid of him!!!!
June 18th, 20094:00 pm
The back up catcher is hitting .301 with 5 HR.
Man I miss the days of Corky Miller and Todd Pratt
KJ sits, the team scores plenty. I’d stick with that plan for a while.
The lower end of the order has actually gotten on base today and scored 4 runs despite McCann sitting and Chipper posting an ohfer. Again, good to see KJ on the bench.
So nice to realize, hey, there’s a game going on right now, and then turn it on and find the boys are up 7 – 0. Since I got on in the 7th, I will have to make sure I read recaps, but sounds like Braves have played pretty well.
Bring in Gonzo…makes A LOT OF SENSE!!!
June 18th, 20094:01 pm
are we really going to use Gonzalez and Soriano is a 7 run game.
7-0! Woohoo. Forgot the game was on today and have been very involved in a work project. Nice to pick it up in the 7th and find our guys winning by a large margin. Come on Gonzo, don’t give it up, dude.
June 18th, 20094:02 pm
Blog keeps eating my posts. WTH???
OK, not eating posts, just not updating like usual. Go figure.
I’m pleased to see Diaz show what he can do when given an opportunity to bat up in the order. 2 for 4 with a homer and a double. It’s production like that that we need on days that Brian McCann has off.
When was the last time that Francoeur had a homer and a double in a game? Or two extra base hits in a game? Hitting 9 for 26 with 1 double is ok, however when Francoeur falls back down to his normal self average wise (.250), then his lack power really hurts the line-up. Dude simply cannot drive the ball anymore.
Yet tomorrow, rest assured, Bobby will have Francoeur and his .228 average against right handers (Dice-K is pitching for Boston tomorrow night) in the starting line-up. Meanwhile, thanks for the double and homer today Matt Diaz, but you’ll be back on the bench tomorrow.
“I never saw the benefit of pitch counts. The 250 innings I pitched as a rookie worked out great!”-Mark Fyrdrich
“What? The Cubs has a great chance of making the world series! Is 234 innings a lot? “-Mark Prior
Anyway, I’d recommend this article:
For those clamoring for more innings from Tommy Hanson on a humid afternoon in a 7-0 game with a pitch count at 100.
Yep, MF and Rob,
Proof positive that Bobby either doesn’t read the blog or does and still puts in his top relievers in blowouts just to spite us.
June 18th, 20094:03 pm
You can say that again, DAP
Makes no sense to me to have Gonzo in there now. What about work for Bennet, Medlin and Acosta? If they screw up then you go to Gonzo and Soriano. Actually teh REdlegs are looking the way we normally do
And just as Bobby shows wisdom with Hanson, insists on overworking our best relievers. I do not understand that man.
June 18th, 20094:04 pm
rob from sc
Well Soriano hasn’t pitched in awhile….I don’t see it as a bad thing…..get them a little work so they don’t come in too rested against Boston and New York.
the jays are threatening in the 8th. 2 on 0 out.
June 18th, 20094:05 pm
Paul Lentz When was the last time that Francoeur had a homer and a double in a game?
I dunno…I’m tryin’ to figure out when the last time BMac did that was…
He needs more extra-base hits. Think I gotta start that campaign up again.
Medlen threw 80 frickin pitches in Baltimore the other day…and Bennett threw a lot the other day when JJ had to come out after the rain delay SMART ONE!
Not kidding about Gameday. I just pulled it up and it’s only showing the thru the 4th.
June 18th, 20094:06 pm
Jays lead 6-5
toronto just took lead against philly
What happen to this guy J Bruce. I was in the Nattii last year when he came up. He hit everything, everywhere, outside pitches to left, inside pitches to Kentucky. Looked like the next coing of Willie Mays. Now he ain’t hitting his weight. Any Cincy fans that can shed some light on this
June 18th, 20094:07 pm
jays take the lead, 7-5 still 2 on 0 outs.
it would be nice to gain a game today, to ease the sting of slacking and not winning winnable games the last two days.
Oh…we need the Fillies to lose. Come one, Jays!
June 18th, 20094:08 pm
“Come one?” Sheesh…what’s with my typing lately?
Bases loaded no outs for Jays in the 8th
June 18th, 20094:09 pm
And just in case you don’t appreciate the Diaz stats above…think about this… 119 RBI/312 Hits …So the guy hits at a .304 clip…and gets an RBI every third hit. That’s pretty good.
Chipper is stepping up his defense!
June 18th, 20094:10 pm
Nice to hear Chipper’s hustling on a foul ball up by 7 runs.
Toronto has taken the lead
I’m glad he wasn’t hurt but that was kinda funny….it was like he was waiting on someone to help him up so he wouldn’t hurt anything…lol
June 18th, 20094:11 pm
For gameday users -
MSNBC scorecard is a better option, updates are pretty fast.
Yeah Chipper, he just spiked a fan. Good try
June 18th, 20094:12 pm
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Hoss trying to get a good look at the gal in purple ….in the stands?
June 18th, 20094:13 pm
June 18th, 2009
i guess hanson is our stopper now.
I was thinking the exact same thing.
Anyone know by any chance if he would be starting against Joba Chamberlain in Atlanta. I think Hanson will miss that series.
June 18th, 20094:14 pm
Aww, what’s wrong with D. Ross?
And…over the last three years:
Overall AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB HBP SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS
vs. Left 406 52 133 21 3 16 50 15 6 61 7 4 .328 .356 .512 .868
vs. Right 384 38 118 17 1 5 41 15 8 83 6 3 .307 .343 .396 .739
So, why is he sitting against righties?
What a year you had in 1884. 678.2 IP – 59W & 12L. With you we could drop 4 of our high priced starters and get by with you and maybe Hanson.
Buffalo NY Braves Fan
Joba is pitching today for the Yankees, so if Hanson misses that series, so does Joba.
June 18th, 20094:15 pm
I have a feeling that Smoltzie is going to be pitching against the Bravos….
June 18th, 20094:16 pm
Hopefully Bobby starts Diaz and Prado tomorrow. I would guess Chipper DH’s which puts Prado at 1B. Unfortunately that means KJ is playing second.
I always like hearing a stirring, drunken, and horribly off-key solo version of the Tomahawk Chop chant in an opposing stadium.
Sorry for my tirade for putting Diaz in the lineup full time folks. Just really doesn’t make sense why this guy is not our starter based on the current roster.
He got hit by a foul tip earlier.. The ump walked out to the mound to give him time.
Note: A more than half-empty opposing stadium works best.
In fact, it works best if there are like, oh, maybe 2500 people in the park.
June 18th, 20094:17 pm
Hey, msnbc reporting Ibanez on the 15-day DL. Might be good news!
apparently you haven’t read anything or kept up to date on the Smoltz stories….. he is not going to pitch against the Braves. His first start will be Thursday (a week from today) against Washington. He will miss both Braves series.
No, I have, I think Smoltz is going to pitch against the Braves…BANK ON IT!!!
June 18th, 20094:18 pm
Maybe 3 teams should swap troubled young right fielders. Jay Bruce – Cincinnati, Jeremy Hermeida – Florida, and our own golden boy. Let ‘em all get a new start somewhere else.
Let’s see if Chipper can hit a Tex HR.
Saw this on a Reds blog:
“What happen to this guy J [Francoeur]. I was [at the game] when he came up. He hit everything, everywhere, outside pitches to left, inside pitches to Kentucky. Looked like the next coing of Willie Mays. Now he ain’t hitting his weight. Any [Braves] fans that can shed some light on this”
His shipment of steroids is delayed 2 weeks…..
June 18th, 20094:19 pm
Virginia Ranger…………..Jay Bruce may be only batting .215…………however, I would take his .215 average and 16 HOMERS over Francoeur’s .251 average and 4 homers ANY DAY OF THE WEEK.
McFann……….You attempt at dogging McCann is a joke. Let’s compare stats:
……………………………….Brian McCann………….Jeff Francoeur….
Still want to talk trash about McCann?
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