1:37 pm June 14, 2009, by Carroll Rogers
June 14th, 20093:17 pm
I called It 6 Weeks ago that the Braves Come correct against the good teams and play like a AAA team aginst the Garbage teams of the league…
It’s Like the Braves expect the garbage teams to lay down to them therefore the reason why we get our A..ses handed to us by teams like the Pirates, Rockies, and Orioles!
June 14th, 20093:18 pm
Wow you must be:
c) really need to look at pitchers that have got the same amount or more than Lowe and suck more…and get injured a lot.
Steve from OH
TnBrian–then you either have a different definition of “dominant” than I do, or you have unreasonably high expectations (big surprise on the blog, huh?). All of those outings I listed have been superb, and all could easily have been won. Selective memories, subjective analysis reigns supreme again.
Mike you are one of the dumbest people out there if you compare the Braves to the Nationals they have won 14 games and are out of contention haha but you probally dident know that because you dont understand this game yea we had a bad day awful day but this happens to the nationals everyday the braves atleast huver around 500 and give us some kind of hope the season was over after 2 weeks for the Nats do some RESEARCH
Only Dan Uggla has a lower BA than KJ in the NL, and I would take Uggla over KJ any day. The guy is hitting .212 and has 40 RBI, while KJ has 20………….In resume…………KJ, you are no good. KJ 8th in SLG among 2B. I thought lots of denizens said he brought power to the team…………..he cant even drive in runs. 1 RBI every 10.0 AB, just ugly ……..thats 2.5 RBI a week.
Bobby as GM fired Chuck Tanner for the same BS for last 3 years. Why can’t Wren fire BC for same reason. Also the damn hitting coach.
Don Sutton just said, “Everyone’s just going for a giggle today.”
RHR, Jeff has had a great season in the field. Good play in the field can sometimes make up for struggles at the plate. This was not the first time Yunel made a bone headed play. That is why he was benched.
June 14th, 20093:19 pm
Yunel next to last in fielding among NL SS.
Escobar ??…Embarrassed??…I don’t think Esco is “capable” of being embarrassed
“TWO dominate outing so far from our $15M man.”
10 (!) quality starts thus far. Winning baseball is about consistent pitching. Our top three have all done that all year.
I don’t know about ya’ll, but I’m ready to see Frenchy pitch.
Everyone on the team should be benched ahead of Escobar, I hope he shuts it down and demands a trade to a contender. What nerve from the wife beater. Francour plays everyday and cant hit the ocean with a pebble, bench his sorry ass.
I think Yunel is having the last laugh today. Bobby benches a guy during an 11 – 0 A$$ whipping LOL nice move Bobby im sure Yunel is devastated he is not out there in the heat in this barnburner.
OK Duke, I don’t agree with that, but what I find is that this is a memory game and a what have you done for me lately kind of league and most of Escobars defensive misplays have occured recently so maybe thats what you are going off of. KJ to me and probably here has bothced the most DP balls but everyone is entitled to their opinion. Escobar will save you more runs than KJ in the end so his don’t hurt as much.
June 14th, 20093:20 pm
The worst thing about pulling Escobar is that he is the one regular that I would like to see pitch an inning. Diaz to pitch the 8th, perhaps?
Maybe we should fire the 3rd base coach for not giving Frenchy and KJ the “take” sign on the first pitch???
rob from sc
We need a hitting coach who preaches patience
June 14th, 20093:21 pm
Not that was a good inning — the O’s only scored one run. Maybe we can keep them from scoring 20.
June 14th, 20093:22 pm
Nate the GR8 – you sucking hard on this loss today? I guess that means the Braves losing this series or getting swept would be exactly what I called. It wasn’t negative you douche, I was right, moron.
June 14th, 20093:23 pm
In an effort to get out of their offensive funk, the Cubs dismissed hitting coach Gerald Perry on Sunday and will promote Triple-A Iowa hitting coach Von Joshua to take over the job.
Hmmm…. if you can’t fire the players, what about a coach? Too bad for Gerald Perry — I remember his days as a Brave.
People saying Esco is being wronged are ignorant. Every coach in the world can live with physical errors and slumps, but mental errors cannot be tolerated. We all know Esco is talented, but he makes too many “dumb” plays. A message needed to be sent. Benching a guy who is slumping doesn’t do them any good. As usual, the baseball IQ on here is below par.
June 14th, 20093:24 pm
If they put Yunel in to pitch, he would likely hit himself with a pitch and get all pissed off about it.
I rather see a position player pitch than waste anyone in the pen.
Jake and bravos
“Yunel may mess up DP’s and stuff…but he doesn’t drop many transfers as KJ does.”
Yunel is supposed to be far superior to Kelly defensively. KJ is an outfielder that is still working on his defense at second. Yunel is next to last in fielding among NL short stops. And that stat doesn’t gather all the mental lapses he has had. Nuff said, period.
I’m not hatin’ on D Lowe Tomahawkin. In fact, I really like the guy. He’s one of the few guys we have not afraid to divvy out an appropriate stink-eye when it calls for it. He’s also a proven winner.
Ok, so he was on clubs that could actually hit anyway.
I’m going to devote my energy cheering for the Red Sox today. If the Sox and Yankees win today, it won’t be total loss.
June 14th, 20093:25 pm
JIM PALMER is pitching so well today………….allowing only 2 hits to our Tomahawk machine.
Maybe we can let Chipper pitch an inning and let Medlin DH???
Well said. It is hard to explain this kind of stuff to people on here, because most don’t have very good baseball IQ.
June 14th, 20093:26 pm
Manny Ramirez to star in an episode of The Cleaner on A&E.
joking trying to lighten the mood
It would be really difficult to “waste” any arms in this Bullpen!
No need for name calling for someone voicing an harmless opinion, my God! Lowe and JJ have been our best pitchers so far w/ Vazquez a close 2nd. But, dominance has never been part of Lowe’s game in his career, outside of postseason. Who gives a sh** if I don’t think he dominant?
The Cub Firing Hitting Coach Gerald Perry…
June 14th, 20093:27 pm
Roja-If Chipper pitches an inning he would quite likely go from DH to DL.
why was mccann taken out?
That last comment by Joe Simpson was BS in my opinion. You can tell by the amount of force and energy the guys are using to swing the bats that they want to go home.
So to answer my own question, 6 AL teams have scored in every inning, and all teams were home teams. No AL team has done it on the road and scored in all 9 innings, only 8 at home.
Boston Vs. Cleveland, 1903
Cleveland Vs. Boston 1923
New York Vs St. Louis 1939
Chicago Vs. Boston 1949
KC vs. Oakland 1998
New York Vs Toronto 2006
The Orioles have 3 more innings to go
This wont change until Escobar matures……….his head is somewhere else. Maybe he has another appointment later today……….a chick maybe?
June 14th, 20093:28 pm
To continue my thoughts…I think this makes me LESS upset with JF. Here’s why: Just because you could do something, doesn’t mean you can “teach” others to do the same (TP did hit well in the bigs). Teaching…teaching well that is…is a gift…it can be honed…but not everyone is a teacher. JF went to the Texas Rangers’ batting coach for help this past offseason because TP wasn’t helping him. Think about it. Who is our best hitters?… Chipper and McCann…do either of those get batting help from TP? Uh….no. Hell, there was even a comment in the paper about Chipper having to call HIS F*ING FATHER to get help if he continued to struggle. What does that tell you?
No, njbraves your IQ is below par. It’s odd because some folks will talk about how Frenchy makes up for his anemic hitting with a few assist me makes in the outfield, but the same thing doesn’t work for Escobar making up for a few errors with his bat??? Give me a break.
Firing TP also doesn’t send a message. I guess TP should start tapping the X button for guys to swing at good pitches or yell to the guys when not to swing at a ball in the dirt???
Bobby and TP have to go. 2-hits in a game and continuing to lose to loser teams…this is ridiculous.
June 14th, 20093:29 pm
Frank here is how it is done.
I wished that the Braves had an owner who took a keen interest in the team and was dedicated to making sure that the team had what it took to win and be contenders.
Yeah, we have a few pieces of the puzzle, i.e. Lowe, Vazquez, McLouth..but those guys can’t be expected to carry the whole load. The punchless offense is embarrassing to watch. The players just seem to loaf around the way GA does.
I didn’t vote for Obama, but there was one thing that I agreed with him on…We need change we can believe in.
The Braves just look tired and uninspired…
Mac was pulled because of the score…no need to him behind the plate anymore today, especially with tomorrow the only off day the team’s got in a while
Could possibly have something to do with the fact that we’re down by 100 runs on a DGANG. But, more than likely it’s because Bobby is senile and Terry Pendleton sucks.
Marlins win, Braves lose – Braves move into 4th place. They are really beating up on those poor teams, aren’t they? Good thing for them to do before playing the Red Sox and Yankees.
And they are not just losing to the last place Orioles, they are getting their a** kicked by them – oh, and the Brave’s ace started today, right?
Let me hear again from the Cox enablers telling me that this is a bump in the road and not more of what has plagued this team for the last 4 years.
I said it in April – a .500 team that will end up third or fourth depending on how well the Marlins play. As long as that fossil is in the dugout, expect the same result.
June 14th, 20093:30 pm
Fire Bobby, Fire TP. They are the common denominator of sooo many players sucking the past few season.
June 14th, 20093:31 pm
Oh boo hoo with your KJ is an OF sh***t. He’s been playing there for 3 damn years. If he can’t play it by now then he needs to be either not starting or let go. No one is comparing there stats. It’s a commone sense fact to anyone whose watched KJ that he bobbles more ball than Escobar. Escobar does commit a ton of errors, but he gets to more balls than KJ does. He has made mental mistakes…so what bench him for a game. But no one can sit here and say KJ is a better all around fielder than Yunel.
It’s a sample size but in 2007 Yunel played 2nd base for 21 games…He never played 2nd before in his like. And he only made 3 errors. Now KJ didn’t suck at 2nd that year…and if he did you expect that. but it’s been too long to throw out the OF crap.
I am sure it is Bobby’s fault…or maybe Roger’s? He hasn’t been blamed for anything in a while- let’s pin that one on him
June 14th, 20093:32 pm
They are the common denominator of sooo many players sucking the past few season.
Yep, so is McCann. You think we could trade him for Ryan Freel?
Thankyou Duke for making my point. Yunel is far superior than KJ and therefore gets to more balls than KJ or even Chipper. You are going to make more mistakes when you get to more balls. You are going to give them excuses because he is the far superior defender. That makes no sense on the routine plays they mess up. Chipper ball through the legs almost cost us a game. Throws away a double play ball that cost us a game. KJ booting balls that are rolled slowly right at him. Dropping balls on the transfer on easy DP balls. THESE ARE SIMPLE PLAYS THAT THEY ARE BOTCHING. I’m sorry but I consider those mental lapses too and by your more VETERAN players. If they are leading by example, Yunel is doing great. And if KJ hasn’t figured out how to make routine plays at 2nd by now, i’m sorry but he should just give it up and move on back to the outfield.
June 14th, 20093:33 pm
I may be wrong about this (doubt I am) but wasn’t Kelly Johnson initially playing shortstop when the Braves brought him into the organization and then he switched to the outfield because he thought he would have a better opportunity to play? After not doing so well in left field the Braves moved him to second instead of finding a legit second baseman which we still need to this day. Does suck that Infante got hurt because he was doing a pretty good job
You are cracking me up today
June 14th, 20093:34 pm
Hey, we’re making progress. That was the first inning that the O’s didn’t score!!
Nah, I think it’s really all Bobby Dews fault.
Josh Beckett hit a homer off of J. A. Happ……lol
D-Ross….At least he came to play!
June 14th, 20093:35 pm
The Orioles sure are leaving a lot of runners on base. You can’t win like that! Oh wait….
Gotta save McCann’s knees. Johnny Bench only sat 62 games his first 7 complete seasons. Bobby sits Mac 30 games a year. Guess that’s why Bench was never very good………………..
Ever seen Escobar’s wife? She is like…HOT!
Me thinks he has no worries about other women…
Sockless Moe Jackson
June 14th, 20093:36 pm
Is there anybody left who still thinks Cox can win again ? There’s no shame in passing your prime, we all do. I do have a problem with management living in denial at the expense of loyal fans who spend their time and hard earned dollars supporting this exercise in futility.
When Tommy Hanson pitches Braves are 1 – 0.
When anyone else pitches Braves are 0 -2.
Tommy Hanson can’t carry this team himself, the other pitchers need to start carrying their share of the load.
And people better stop saying that Tommy Hanson is a lard@$$.
Bobby Cox after game quote: “Well, you just have to tip your hat to the Orioles today.” That old fool needs to be run out of town since he is too stupid to retire!
What is actually pisses me off is that my opponent this week in my fantasy league picked up Bergesen for today and he might pitch a complete game shutout…
You are right Good Grief, he was a shortstop.
D. Ross just paddin’ his stats. hee hee…
And Chipper. Think we could get Josh Anderson for him?
good call…Damn Bobby Dews! I never liked him anyways
Don and Jim are a hoot.
June 14th, 20093:37 pm
Heath (Cleveland) -
There’s an age-old saying …The best coaches aren’t/weren’t always the best players
oh just kidding, ross homered…
10 more solo HRs and we’ll make a game of it
June 14th, 20093:38 pm
Sockless Moe Jackson. Good post, but falling on deaf ears. Cox has been sucking for the past 4 years now.
Steve from OH-
Now your thinkin’! But, Josh Anderson is obviously the best centerfielder ever, so I don’t think they would even take Chipper + McCann for him. They’d obviously be crazy if they did…
So you have a good baseball I.Q. Duke? I think some people on here would differ with that opinion.
June 14th, 20093:39 pm
Roman Gal – you make no sense. McCann and Chipper are anomalies that have good coaching from their dads. Every other player that doesn’t have a dad batting coach has sucked for this team. The only other guys that have success on this team speak spanish…Yunel, Esco, Infante. Anyone that TP or Bobby can English too they screw up.
The ghost of Tom Landry's past AKA Bobby Cox
I gotta admit, Sockless Moe has a good point..can he hit ?
June 14th, 20093:40 pm
Boston 5 – Phils 5 in the 7th.
did a few years back we have a huge comeback against the O’s, like 8 runs or something..i have faith
Mixxo…I think that is the case with TP…
As for Bobby…he is just too loyal. Loyal to a fault. Should fire TP, give someone else a chance to work with the Braves hitters if they really like the guys they have. We have seen them all perform well at one point or other. Usually when they first got here…and have gotten worse they longer they have been here. So, maybe TP just needs a change of scenery and not KJ and JF.
Even Camden Yards is playing that stupid John Denver song after the stretch….
Must be a mediocre team thing, or something..
Decline and decay are inevitable for the individual. What matters is the survival of the species.
Booby Cox should go away before he drags the Braves down with him.
Medlen has thrown 34 strikes and 35 balls.
June 14th, 20093:41 pm
Roman Gal – you make no sense.
Nope, you’re right. Never have, never will.
The only way management will get rid of Cox is when these Hall of Fame Bobby Cox loving fans quit going to the games.
June 14th, 20093:42 pm
better percentage than Lowe
Have to like the whole Girl from Rome Georgia thing…very creative.
making sense is highly overrated (s[peaking of which- was it just me or did that last sentence of Mfin’s not make much either?)
OH Steve, yesterday you said you think KJ could net more than Jake Fox. I was thinking the Cubs may ask for more. In any event, the cubs are surprisingly one of the worst offensive NL teams this year. I hope Wren, as you suggested, has inquired about him.
The Rome and Myrtle Beach clubs are winning.
June 14th, 20093:43 pm
Good points JoeBrave
Could the Braves potentially send Medlen down and bring Parr up…because Medlen has thrown a bunch of pitches and we will certainly need arms in Cincy?
Gimme Five Joebrave
I’ve enjoyed the music they have played at Camden Yards…
That song you mentioned excluded, but I love hearing the Music at other parks than Tooner Field
June 14th, 20093:44 pm
Couldn’t tell ya. Didn’t get that far…
As for Bobby…he is just too loyal. Loyal to a fault. Should fire TP, give someone else a chance to work with the Braves hitters if they really like the guys they have…. – Heath
I agree 100%! Hey! I hear Gerald Perry’s available.
Then he might be having an affair…………..LOL
June 14th, 20093:45 pm
Hey, for all ya’ll know I’m a 70 year old man who lives in Alabama.
It gets me that the old fart won’t get off his fat butt…to make a pitching change when we are getting creamed
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