2:58 pm June 10, 2009, by David O'Brien
June 10th, 20094:20 pm
DAP, thanks for the correct info. That makes somewhat of a difference. Could Ryan Spillborghs be a better option? He isn’t starting and he has hit .259, 5 HR 26 RBI and 6 SB. Also, I like Clint Barmes as a potential second base option. He is hitting .291, 6 HR 29 RBI. Just food for thought. I know they aren’t playing well and I read somewhere that Dan O’ Dowd isn’t isn’t the trading frame of mind right now. On top of this, you are looking at a team who would want prospects in return. Atlanta will likely not be willing to part with many of the prospects that they have left after the Nate McLouth trade.
June 10th, 20094:21 pm
Soriano is a machine. A brutal Terminator. Gonzo is maybe more human, but is capable of being more thrilling.
Javier Vazquez has 93 strikeouts and 16 walks with a team best 1.12 WHIP.
Why do only 3% of you want him to be the game 7 starter?
NC Braves Fan
ncscoots @4:14 … Indeed. If a post is longer than five paragraphs or so, it has a high degree of skipability.
There’s one more batch of storms coming from what I see.
June 10th, 20094:22 pm
Lew I’m glad we have a “true fan” like you on the blog, I can sleep better at night,lol.
School got out here about 3 weeks ago.
After reading the column on Minor, I actually like the pick more now. I would’ve preferred first White or Matzek, but Minor seems like a good pick.
What I’m more happy with is that we went with college guys with our 1st 2 picks, and that after taking more of a finesse guy 1st, we took a hard thrower 2nd.
Minor’s credentials are impressive, and i like the fact that he’s been throwing a change since he was 12. I wish he threw 2-3 mph faster, but with his larger 6′4″ frame, that should make the change up more effective, and the fastball seem a little quicker. He’ll probably throw harder later anyway.
Btw, I think Strasburg is gonna be a flop. Could be wrong, but I haven’t been too impressed when seeing him pitch. Like Tony Gwynn says, he’s gonna have to challenge hitters at the pro level who will make him work harder and won’t swing as much at his junk. There’s something about his mechanics that bothers me as they seem a little Mark Prior-ish. But if I’m wrong then Washington is gonna have 2 great pitchers in Zimmerman and Strasburg.
June 10th, 20094:23 pm
Kentavo, Acosta has the stuff. He was throwing smoke Sunday. I think they clocked him at 96 MPH. Peter Moylan hasn’t done so well in his return from arm surgery. Maybe he should just be the mop up man. Buddy Carlyle had the role, but he’s on the shelf.
danielyour thoughts on DeRosa?
derosa would be an ok pickup for the right price. my problem is that as soon as infante comes back we have three utility guys on the roster. granted, derosa has more power than prado or infante, but im just not sure derosa would make the impact on this team it needs. he would definitely improve the team, but im not sure about him. he isnt my first choice to trade for, thats for sure.
June 10th, 20094:24 pm
Lew, can I butt in a minute? Thanks… if you’re suggesting a person with arrogance can somehow change his outlook on things quicker and easier, like a ballgame, opposed to someone with an anxiety order, I disagree. There is a lot of good medicine and very good doctors that specialize in anxiety and you’d be surprised how quickly a person can get fixed up if they go through with it.
June 10th, 20094:25 pm
Best case scenario for the Braves in 2009:
1) Lowe, Jurrjens and Vazquez each make 34-35 starts
2) Kawakami continues to be serviceable
3) Hanson is solid
4) Soriano and Gonzo oh-so-mysteriously find good health in their walk years
5) Chipper magically plays 140+ games for the last time in his career
6) McCann, McLouth and McEscobar put up strong offensive seasons
7) The Mets and Phils choke
8. McFrenchy gets McReassigned
9) Bobby Cox retires after winning a World Series title
June 10th, 20094:26 pm
If Omar Infante hadn’t gotten hit by a pitch and broken his hand, Atlanta wouldn’t be talking about needing another outfielder. When is his return? Three weeks?
TnBrian-Why exactly, would you wonder about whether or not a player who in his time with the Braves has compiled a 2.18 ERA, a WHIP of .95 with 123 K and only 33 BB in 113 IP was faking an injury? Dude’s been absolutely lights out (except for a couple game HR spree two years ago) when able to pitch. He had surgery. He rehabbed. I don’t think there should be an inkling of doubt he was telling the truth.
June 10th, 20094:27 pm
Slugger – Javy is a notoriously poor “big game” pitcher. Watched him closely up here in chicago with the Sox the last couple years, he was the LAST guy they wanted on the bump in a big game. He didn’t even make the postseason rotation last year
Chop Chop, McFrenchy gets McReassigned? That is funny. I hope you’re McRight!
June 10th, 20094:29 pm
I agree that Stenchy acted like a big baby last year when he was sent down. That’s why I don’t think it would help at all if the Braves send him down this year. Obviously this guy is beyond help. Some bloggers here blame TP for his troubles but I think the guy is uncoachable. Even after going to work with the Rangers supposedly excellent hitting coach during the offseason, he has not improved at all. Maybe if he goes to another team and gets a fresh start he can improve…but as far as Atlanta is concerned, he is done.
TnBrian-Dude, half the battle is believing you can remedy your problems. Given that the ability exists to begin with, I’d give the edge to the person who believed he could deal with the problem over the one who had no idea what the problem was to begin with.
5/19 CBS Braves Power Rankings
“Bobby Cox described Rafael Soriano’s latest physical hiccup as “a little groin thing,” which prompted a comical misunderstanding that concluded with Cox affirming the girth and elasticity of Soriano’s junk.”
June 10th, 20094:30 pm
NC Braves Fan, a fine rule of thumb, though exceptions must be made, LOL. Several fine contributors here who can churn out words by the bucketful, with no hint of skipability. Massive bloggability, low floor, high ceiling, great command. First round picks, even without matriculating at Vandy.
On the other hand, one sentence by some of our esteemed colleagues, and the skipability pins the needle. Reeks of it, is what I’m saying.
Vazquez made the postseason rotation for the White Sox, McPoyle.
He started Game 1 against the Rays:
4.1 IP, 8 H, 6 R, 6 ER, 1 BB, 6 K
0-1, 12.46 ERA
Ozzie didn’t have a chance to set up his rotation for the playoffs.
Lew, only going by DOB and others questioning his desire some of last year and early in ST this year. I don’t think right now anybody needs to wonder about his passion.
Is Matzek the one talking about how he can’t wait to go to Oregon, right after getting drafted? Yeah, I’m glad we didn’t pick that guy.
I owe Soriano his props. I was totally wrong when I speculated that he might well be a malingerer, but was certainly not a gamer.
June 10th, 20094:32 pm
McFann, we had that really random storm out of nowhere about an hour ago. Was wondering if it would go on across the state line. Thankfully it blowed over quickly and its sunny again now.
It’s amazing watching Soriano pitch and his average fastball is 93 mph and yet most hitters simply can’t catch up to it. He can turn it up a notch to 95, but 93 is where he hovers. Acosta actually throws faster than Soriano sometimes hitting 98, but Soriano’s ball seems to change gears half way to home. Maybe it’s the ease of his throwing motion in contrast to say Gonzo who comes at you with everything he has. However he does it, it’s fun to watch. I guess that’s why the radar gun isn’t the be all to end all. Trying to predict a pitcher’s future based on what a radar gun says is about like trying to predict if a receiver will be great based on his 40,or a QB’s future on how far he can throw the ball. Certainly they are indicators of natural giftedness but not anything to rely soley on. Give me a pitcher like a Don Sutton who knew how to pitch and change speeds and hit his spots over a Brad Penny or the dude the YAnkees got we were pursuing anyday.
Maybe we can trade Hanson now that we have Mike Minor……………..
June 10th, 20094:33 pm
haha Chop Chop, you beat me to it. you’re right. then he was done the rest of the postseason… or would have been if the Rays didn’t kick butt.
June 10th, 20094:34 pm
TnBRian-Excuse me? I haven’t heard yet from anyone who might actually have inside information, that Francoeur had no desire to improve. He may not have a clue on how to continue with the changes he instituted, but he sure as hell went out and tried to do something about it. Seems I heard something recently about him spending hours in the cage working. Does that sound to you like someone who flat out doesn’t give a damn?
Frenchy is stubborn. Frenchy is impatient at the plate. He has lost power. His OBP is terrible. But no desire to improve? Get real.
June 10th, 20094:35 pm
Give me a pitcher like a Don Sutton who knew how to pitch and change speeds and hit his spots
…and knew every place on a uniform to hide certain, uh, materials, LOL.
June 10th, 20094:37 pm
CB-Don’t know how to react to being a “sleep aid”, but no one in his right mind has ever accused me of being anything but a Huge Braves’ Fan (literally and figuratively).
I guess if pitchers can “eat innings” then Frenchy can “eat AB’s.
Lew, I’m not gonna argue with that too much, but I’m going by me personally and how much clearer and focused I’ve become since getting the help I needed when I was a teenager. Everybody needs a little arrogance, or confidence in themselves to get ahead in life. I agree that the battle is mostly in your head, so if Frenchy has an arrogance issue, or something more, it all boils down to how the person views things anyways.
June 10th, 20094:38 pm
Francoeur clearly doesn’t have a social anxiety disorder like Khalil Greene, but I do believe he has some kind of undiagnosed developmental disorder, such as ADD. And yes, I’ve studied and worked in psychology so I am an official blog expert on the subject lol.
Eh..change “he has” to “he may have” … its hard to detect symptoms when the subject is someone you’ve only seen on tv and read about in the papers.
June 10th, 20094:39 pm
Of course I would…not a post that mentions BMac gets past me!
That one you just posted…I saw that the last time you linked it up… McFann
Daaaaang….I guess nothing really does get by you. I posted that link around 2 AM. That’s why I posted it again because I figured nobody saw it. Kudos, friend
Gotta run guys…
I am hoping to have good commutability with variations in speed but not delivery.
Lew, I was talking about Soriano.
Was he ever caught?
Just saw that Zeke Spruill was placed on the 7-Day disabled list for Rome. David Francis sent back down from the Beach to replace him. I hope it wasn’t an arm related injury. He was progressing rather nicely for a 19 year old in Low-A.
June 10th, 20094:40 pm
Really? It appears to be finished here, too…I kinda like afternoon storms–once tornado season ends, they’re not so bad…
Or it could be that Francouer is simply not a very good hitter, despite his best efforts to improve.
June 10th, 20094:41 pm
In regards to your 3:34 pm post. Didn’t he get married just before he started going down hill?
June 10th, 20094:42 pm
Thanks! Oh yeah, I scann the late-night posts for stuff…
K.C. in LA
June 10th, 20094:45 pm
A good take on Escobar. Funny…
Francoeur has ADHD. Arrogant Doofus Hitting Disorder.
Lew, I think anybody who reads this blog for any period of time knows who you are and your passion for the Braves. I just don’t appreciate somebody like Paul defining what is a Braves fan. They come in all types.lol
monty, he was never thrown out of a game, or suspended, or anything, that I remember. Pinella tells a story of Steinbrenner calling down to the dugout and wanting Lou to have Sutton checked in a game. Pinella replied that the Yanks had Tommy John going next (who supposedly taught Sutton how to scuff) and Rick Rhoden after that (supposedly taught by Sutton how to scuff), and it might be best to let sleeping dogs lie, LOL.
June 10th, 20094:46 pm
no one in his right mind has ever accused me of being anything but a Huge Braves’ Fan (literally and figuratively).
Lew, you left out artistically.
June 10th, 20094:47 pm
DAP, in regard to DeRosa… he’s more than just a utility guy.
DeRosa hit 21 homers and 30 doubles last year. And were he a Braves, his 10 HR’s this year would be tied with McClouth for the team lead, and his 42 RBI would be tops on this team. Yes, his last couple seasons have been in hitter-friendly parks… but not hitter-friendly in the way that Coors Field, Citizens Bank Park, or New Yankee Stadium are hitter friendly parks.
If you project his current numbers out to 550 at-bats, you’d have 24 HR’s, 103 RBI. And he’s hit exactly half of his ‘09 HR’s on the road… so you can’t just chalk it up to the ballpark.
But let’s just say that, in Turner Field, he has 15-20 HR, 30 double power. When you put that with the .290 he hits every year, and the .370+ OPB he’s posted each of the past two seasons… AND the fact that he’s a consistent RIGHT-handed hitter… I’d be THRILLED to add DeRosa to the mix.
He could take over in Right Field, or if KJ is slumping terribly, you can put him at 2B. You could hit him 6th or so… or he could bat leadoff (he has the OBP to do it), allowing McLouth to maximize his power in the middle of the order.
As long as we don’t have to grossly overpay for him, DeRosa could be a BIG addition to this team. I’d love to see it happen.
TnBrian-As a Sports Artist, I’ve had the privilege of meeting Pro Athletes ( MLB, NFL, Olympics, etc) somewhat more than most people not directly involved in those sports. Almost every one of them in all of those sports have had a certain degree of arrogance-I actually think it’s an essential aspect of highly successful people’s makeup-in any professional endeavor. Yes, medication can help physical ailments and conditions and I have nothing against their use if needed-more power to Khalil-hope he gets it all together. However, they’re still trying to figure out exactly what his problem is and how to treat it. We knoiw what Francoeur’s problem is and it isn’t arrogance-it’s going up there with a plan and consistent mechancis. He’s working on it. Maybe he will be successful, maybe not. There’s no one better who’s available to replace him with. He has damn little trade value. Get used to seeing him stick his butt straight back and flail at pitches. Complaining is useless and just getting real old.
June 10th, 20094:48 pm
For those scoffing at the Francoeur = Komminsk theory.
Ponder this. Komminsk, in 376 career games from 83-91, played in 376 games, 1119 PA, 986 AB, 215 H (.218 BA), 114 BB (.301 OBP), with 23 HR, 105 RBI, and 39 SB.
In his past 2 full season’s + this year, Francoeur has played in 373 games, 1578 PA, 1455 AB, 383 H (.263 BA), 90 BB (.299 OBP), with 34 HR, 201 RBI and 7 SB.
I’m of the belief that Francoeur still has time to turn it around, and make more of his career than Komminsk did. So to say that Francoeur IS Komminsk, is unfair. But one could argue that he’s TURNING INTO what Komminsk was.
In fact, one migh wish that Francoeur’s games/AB’s would be spread out over 8 years, rather than playing in damn near EVERY game over the past 3 years. Francoeur without the power he showed early in his career, is pretty much what Komminsk was his whole career. A strikeout machine that happens to accumulate RBI, based more upon WHERE he is in the lineup, and having 600+ PA every year, rather than actually being a good hitter. Had Komminsk been given the opportunity to have 600 PA in any given season, he too might have had around 75 RBI by default. Especially with a guy like Chipper Jones hitting ahead of him in the lineup.
Komminsk was also always hurt.
But that OBP is WAY too close to Komminsk’s for my liking. Before you argue about the GG and the defense, Komminsk had a “gun” in RF, too.
Komminsk was your classic AAAA player. Pretty much held his own and had a decent BB/K ratio in the minors. Had power, and stole bases. He was your classic 30/30 guy on his way up. Failed in the big-leagues, and when he returned to AAA he performed well.
Francoeur has probably held his own in the big leagues a little better. Especially upon his initial call up. But it’s clear that if there is a category in between AAAA caliber and “good” major league hitter, that’s where Jeff is.
The bottom line, unless something drastically changes, is that Jeff just isn’t a very good hitter, and will continue to go down that path. I suspect that the Braves are the ONLY club in MLB that would continue to give him the 162 game start “nod” in RF. I’m QUITE certain, that they are the only club that fancies themselves as a contender, that would do so.
Perhaps the Royals of years past, the D-Rays of the 90’s, and maybe the Brewers teams of yesteryear would LOVE to have him in their OF. But I can’t imagine the Yankees, Red Sox, Dodgers, Angels, Twins, Cardinals or any other team that expects to win sticking with him.
It baffles me why the Braves do.
June 10th, 20094:49 pm
Cb-All types and all ages-like 14.
Sounds wonderful to me. So long FAILcoeur and FUGA (F U Garret Anderson)
June 10th, 20094:50 pm
TnBrian-Soriano is arrogant, too. That’s why I’d try to re-sign him as our closer next year. He’s scary.
June 10th, 20094:53 pm
Alright, got a new song written up for Rafael Soriano. Don’t know if there are many Jamey Johnson fans here, but I know DOB has praised him, several times.
It’s performed to the tune of “Mowing Down the Roses”
–Down in Turner Field
–It’s the perfect time of year
–To break out the blazin’ fastball
–And try to K this next guy here.
–I can’t wait to fire it up
–And get it into gear
–And I know you would be hurtin’
–If I buzzed one toward your ear.
–I’m mowing down opponents
–I’m mowing down opponents
–I’m mowing down opponents
–That are batting at the yard.
–I struck out your clean up hitter
–Straight through the strike zone
–Then you ripped my change-up off the wall
–Just wide of the foul pole.
–Then I loaded up a new ball
–Threw down the rosin bag.
–And I smoked you with your shortened swing
–With a four-seamer on the black.
–Down in Turner Field
–It’s getting perfectly clear
–That anything pitch you used to crush
–Just ain’t gonna go ‘round here.
June 10th, 20094:54 pm
I dunno about that. He’s excelled at every level, including the majors. The talent’s there. The intelligence is not….at least not right now.
Slugger, you asked about the poll and Vazquez:
“Why do only 3% of you want him to be the game 7 starter?”
Because, his past history shows that he is prone to the “big inning” more often than not (not counting this year – and believe me – I’m a “hot hand guy – I wanted Jaret Wright to start game 1 of the playoffs the year he was here because he was the “hot hand”).
In a game 7 “do or die” situation, one big inning usually does you in. I voted for D-Lowe (because of past post-season experience), yet I think that JJJ is our true ACE. I also think that by September, Hanson has Smoltz and Avery “like” stuff to dominate in October. But I have to admit, if Vazquez keeps doing what he’s doing, and we make the playoffs, based on current trends, I’d have plenty of confidence in him keeping us in the game.
Since you asked.
ncscoots- don’t hear about scuffing or cheating anymore- must have it pefected,eh?
June 10th, 20094:55 pm
DeRosa isn’t really a 4 or 5 hitter. Especially with McCann or Chipper out of the lineup. He does solve one of the two outfield problems though. Just not really exactly what the Braves need.
DeRosa would help, but he’s only signed through this year. No more rentals.
Diamondbackmac, you are right, my friend. Jeff was pretty good until he married the high school sweetheart. I could make some other comments here, but they wouldn’t be too nice, so I won’t. Anyway, outta here for the long commute home. Go Braves!
About the school thing..yeah…you live in GA right?
I agree completely with your assesment of DeRo. He would be a huge improvement over Stenchy and he does have decent power numbers but he is not the “answer” in right. If the Braves can’t make a deal for another legit power rightfielder and can have him without giving up too much I think he would be a fine addition but I would try to make other deals first and have DeRo as the fall back plan.
June 10th, 20094:56 pm
Mets Answer Braves’ Recent Impact Trade with One of Their Own:
Bart Hubbuch of the New York Post reports (via Twitter) that the Mets acquired Chip Ambres from the Red Sox. Ambres, 29, played three games for the Mets in 2007 before hitting .195 in 24 games for the Padres last year . He’s played all three outfield positions in the majors since his debut with the Royals in 2005. The Mets assigned him to Triple A Buffalo.
June 10th, 20094:57 pm
Yep! Gwinnett County! We’re homeschooleed, though, so our schedule is a little different.
Maybe Sutton was a great cheater and got away with it. All you have though is accusations if he never got caught. Seems to me it would be a little difficult with 4 umps watching you and several opposing coaches in the other dugout trying there best to catch you. Not saying he couldn’t have. But the guy did win 300 games and maybe he did scuff a ball every now and then, surely you don’t believe that accounted for all of those wins.I’ll let it end there.
JD: isn’t intelligence part of being a good hitter?
Steve from OH
JD–excelled at every level? I wouldn’t say that. The best OPS he’s ever posted in a full season is .782 (OPS+ of 103), and his career mino league OPS is .810. He did well in rookie ball, but never OPSed over .810 in a minor league season since. He never demonstrated the ability to get on base at any level of full-season ball, and never slugged above .500 in any level of full-season ball.
June 10th, 20094:58 pm
CB, either that, or today’s kids just haven’t had the proper mentoring, LOL.
June 10th, 20094:59 pm
DeRosa has batted 2nd, 5th, and 6th, definitely not a 4 or 5 hitter.
The more I watch him play the more glad I am that we didn’t send Escobar away this offseason. That guy is an all-star and he will get his recognition soon enouth.
June 10th, 20095:00 pm
KCin regard to DeRosa… he’s more than just a utility guy.
he has played 5 different positions this year. he is, by definition, a utility guy.
June 10th, 20095:01 pm
monty, didn’t mean to imply that Sutton wasn’t a good pitcher, far from it. You don’t start your career pitching behind Koufax, Drysdale, and Osteen, just because you’re a lucky scrub, LOL. And, no, I seriously doubt he ever doctored as many balls as some seem to imply. It just makes for some good stories.
June 10th, 20095:02 pm
Not saying that it is, and not saying that it isn’t a direct coincidence- but the Braves seem to be playing better with Kotchman out of lineup. Why not bring in Brad Hawpe (who’s still available and could probably be had for cheaper/less prospects than McClouth was acquired for) and put him at first base. He played there in college and could do it at this level. Maybe include Kelly Johnson in the deal to make our lineup not so lefty-dominated. A moderate contract guy like Hawpe may be just what this team needs. He’s a doubles machine that has 25-30 homer type power that’s getting better against lefties. Why not give it a shot? Can’t be worse that Francouer. Good deadline-week deal for Braves?
June 10th, 20095:03 pm
rammerjammer, nothing wrong with a rental, as long as the price is right. If there’s a guy out there who could be the difference between playing October baseball or going fishing… that’s pretty valuable, even if you only get him for 2-3 months.
And, generally speaking, you don’t have to give up as much to get a rental as you would if you were getting a guy that’s under contract beyond this season.
Would you give up JoJo, and a couple mid-level prospects for a .290, 20 homerun, RIGHT-handed hitter like DeRosa? I sure as hell would. Even if it’s just for 2-3 months of service.
Rammerjammer- I agree about the rental part, but I think if we could trade for Derosa we could afford him in a contract extention. He is a former Brave and liked Atlanta a lot. I really do feel he is our best option for an immediate upgrade in RF. But frank suprised us all with McLouth we will see.
I do get tired of GA and Frenchy but what else do we got? We can bitch and moan all we want but we should try putting that aside and give them support. How well do you perform when people are down on you all the time? I would love to get another outfielder but at what cost? I am actually about as down on GA as Frenchy. Wouldn’t it suck if ole Charlie mowed us down tonight? Here is hoping we rip him and get another W.
June 10th, 20095:04 pm
DAP, I didn’t say he wasn’t a utility guy. I said he was more than JUST a utility guy. In other words, he’s a guy any team would be happy to pencil into their everyday lineup somewhere on the field.
“JD: isn’t intelligence part of being a good hitter?” NC Braves Fan
I would contend it’s the MOST IMPORTANT part of being a good hitter at the major league level. Most guys (including “scrubs” like Pete Orr, Scott Thorman, Brad Komminsk, etc….) had the physical tools to dominate in high school, in college and in the minor leagues. It’s why they get drafted, signed, called up, etc…
It’s the ones that are capable of adjusting and not repeating the same mistakes over and over again, that prove to be long time major league players. Same could and should, be said for pitchers.
Find me a guy that is mentioned in the Top 20 “hitters” (past or active), that isn’t a “smart” hitter. I can’t think of one. ESPECIALLY your good hitters that hit for high average and power (Pujols, Chipper, Manny, Arod, Jeter, Mauer, etc…)
None of them allowed themselves to be stuck in a rut for extended periods of times, because they were capable, and more importantly, WILLING to adjust.
June 10th, 20095:05 pm
I’ll give you one guess as to which side of that line I place Bill Shanks. (SCOOTS)
He is what he is, a cheerleader who never met a prospect that he couldn’t fall in love with. I have no respect for his opinion, but I admit that he puts a lot of effort into profiling the youngsters and introducing them to interested fans.
June 10th, 20095:06 pm
“HAnson is solid”
He probably will be solid, he was solid in AAA, but his first start is no indication that he “is” solid. You could say he was solid for 3 innings and not solid for 3 when he gave up 7 runs I suppose, but let’s at least let him throw one good game before we pronounce him as “solid”, whatever that means.
Who would you guys use as our 7th inning pitcher? Personally, I think Moylan’s gotta be pulled from that position, but I’m DEATHLY AFRAID that, with Bobby’s LOVE for veterans, that Jeff Bennett would be the next guy he uses there. Personally, I think that EOF deserves the first shot, but if we MUST have a LOOGY at all times, as it would be against Bobby’s sacred “book” not to, I don’t see it happening. In that case, I’d like to see Acosta or Kris Medlen used in that spot.
June 10th, 20095:07 pm
Steve from OH,
Not to take away from your point, because it’s a good one and one that I agree with. But if you combine Francoeur’s 2005 AA numbers and his 2005 majors numbers you get a SLG % > .500.
June 10th, 20095:08 pm
“DeRosa has batted 2nd, 5th, and 6th, definitely not a 4 or 5 hitter.”
Im a genious, but im a dumbass. Derosa, like you kinda sorta said, would hit 5th for us.
Okay…I always wanted to ask you about how you were in school but on here at like 10am…lol…that explains it
June 10th, 20095:09 pm
PWH, I’m way too lazy to do that kind of math. Good point though. Looks like 2005 was an anomaly in light of the rest of his career (rookie ball nonwithstanding).
IDK if you like the Triple A team but I found this yesterday….
June 10th, 20095:10 pm
Buckhead Bama – I agree. EOF and/or Acosta.
June 10th, 20095:11 pm
Whoever suggested Spilborghs- I like that idea, too. He provides a little pop with SPEED, which is something this team has very little even with McClouth here.
Lew………..you saying you are a “true” Braves fan is like a deadbeat dad saying that “I love my kids”. Saying that you love your kids is one thing. Backing it up with your actions (paying child support, spending time with them) is another. Just like saying that you “love the Braves” is one thing. However your actions (defending Jeff Franceour) “shows” that you are more “loyal” to a player who does not help the Braves win, than you are to the Atlanta Braves team.
The fact that you are INCAPABLE of understanding how Franceour’s initial lack of hustle and looking back at the shortstop on the final play in Monday night’s game “show” the “true” make-up of a player is apparent by your need to “overlook” it. Just because the Braves won the game, DOES NOT mean that Franceour’s actions on that last play needs to be “overlooked” or “downplayed”. As I said in previous postings, I wanted to see the Braves win Monday night…and….the rest of the season. That play (along with many others) shows that playing Franceour does not give the Braves the best chance to win.
June 10th, 20095:12 pm
Great Jamey song. maybe Johnson is Braves fan we can get him to sing it at next concert.
I thought you said one time you lived in the North Georgia mountains????????????
DAP, for starters. One of DeRosa’s “positions” listed this year is DH. Don’t count in my book. The other 4 positions? 1B, 3B, LF, RF.
Now. The MAIN reason that I would like DeRosa is to play one of the corner outfield spots. The 2nd, is to be a legit backup for Chipper (if out for an extended period of time), until Infante is back (if he’s back at all).
He would also serve as a better backup for Kotchman, imo. Than Norton or Prado (though Prado has been pretty decent defensively with Kotch out).
So, while “by definition”, he’s a platoon player. That doesn’t mask the fact that he’d be our best “hitter” at EITHER corner outfield spot on the roster. And the best backup (with Infante out – and maybe even if he wasn’t out), at the two corner IF position. Not to mention, he’d be a helluva DH option in interleague games, and the WS if we got there (and had everybody healthy).
He’s a utility guy, that happens to have started 56 of the Indians 60 games. I’d call that a guy without a true position, who’s team WANTS his bat in the lineup, and his defensive versatility allows said team to put him in many positions to best suit that day’s need (days off for other guys, and filling in for injured players).
Nothing wrong with have 2 or 3 guys on your team like that making up your bench in my opinion. Provided they can hit. Which DeRosa can do better than both of our corner outfielder can.
Go get him Frank.
June 10th, 20095:13 pm
I think it’s reasonable to think that “Hanson is solid” would be a part of a best case scenario for the Braves in 2009. Maybe that isn’t reasonable enough for you, though.
Some people can’t be reasoned with.
June 10th, 20095:14 pm
Does playing Francoeur ever give the Braves the best chance to win?
So I’m guessing when we go to Baltimore Blanco will play LF and GA will DH?
Assuming Kotchman can’t play 1st….in which I’d expect Prado to play 3rd and Chipper DH….I’d rather have Blanco in LF though.
The Barbaro Canizares Watch: He had two hits last night in Gwinnett’s loss. He is hitting .344 9 HR 37 RBI. Bring on Barbaro!
June 10th, 20095:15 pm
In my last post, I stated: “So, while “by definition”, he’s a platoon player…” about DeRosa, I should have stated “utility”, not platoon.
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