Hard to believe the Pirates had Bay, McLouth and Nady in the OF. That’s an All Star Outfield in my mind but all are gone. Small market I know but I can see how pissed off the Pirate fans must be with the moves they have made. Oh well better them than us!
and there’s his absolute maximum 3 runs given up … now you’re allowed nothing (though chances are his pinch hit for this half inning). So this game will be in the bullpen’s hands now
Yeah, kinda. Not bad when you can move a non-impact player like McLouth, bring up a good prospect at the minimum, replenish the position in the minors, and get at least one likely mid-rotation starter, all at the same time. Someone was having pity on the Pirates for that trade? Puh-leeze.
McLouth is a fine player, glad to have him, but, let’s not get carried away and think he’s some game-changing star and the Braves just pillaged the Pirates.
One Reason the Braves let Glavine and Smoltz go…they didn’t want this convo
Hanson: [Seeing Smoltz take off his shirt, revealing white suff on his chest] What’s that s*** on your chest?
Smoltz: [Looking at his chest] Crisco.
Smoltz: [wiping it across his head]
Smoltz: Bardol.
Smoltz: [wiping it along his waist line]
Smoltz: Vagisil. Any one of them will give you another two to three inches drop on your curve ball. Of course if the umps are watching me real close I’ll rub a little jalapeno up my nose, get it runnin’, and if I need to load the ball up I just…
Smoltz: [wipes his nose]
Smoltz: …wipe my nose.
Hanson: You put snot on the ball?
Smoltz: I haven’t got an arm like you, kid. I have to put anything on it I can find. Someday you will too.
I told you guys my feet are a barkin. No way am I risking doing any permanent damage to my body….I have a lot of planes after my baseball career. EWWWWW, Bobby is pickin his nose!!
Why the hell did Bobby start Garret Anderson in left against a left-hander? When Diaz covers SO MUCH more ground than Garret and doesn’t lollygag in the field like Garret and oh yeah, he’s a better hitter than Garret even against righties, not to mention lefties.
Well another quality start from KK. Not going to knock anyone’s socks off, but given what we have been used to seeing from the 5 spot (where I think he will be after Hanson settles in), what an improvement. It’s our game to lose from here. Moylan-Soriano-Gonzales, perhaps coming up. Wouldn’t mind seeing Kris Medlen finally make an appearance either.
scoots, agreed. But given the lack of outfield options the Braves had, I think it makes sense. But I will NOT call it a fleecing for the Braves. No way. They gave up a few of very good prospects. You were a big Morton fan, right?
well.. i guess matt diaz wanted to join a slapstick troupe or something..
enjoyed the hustle, but as usual, diaz overdoes stuff everything…
overswing, overrun, etc.
just dont get the “a player cant be cut for financial reasons” clause in the collective bargaining agreement. In the NFL, players get cut all the time for “financial reasons”. (PAUL L)
yeah, but only if you can prove it wasn’t for those reasons.
McLouth is going to be an obvious fan favorite here. A lot of people have pointed to his decline in offense since his peaks last year. But if I were not so lazy, I’d be extremely interested to look at what his numbers were pre- and post Nady and Bay trade. My bet is his production suffered when they left and he was forced to hit without real protection in the lineup. Now he has that again.
And Yunel. Half the plays he makes you absolutely love him, and half the plays you want to scream, what are you doing. Sometimes you want to do both on the same play.
Steve from OH, absolutely. I think both clubs accomplished their goals with the trade. I thought a letter from Huntington was a little much, but they did sign him prior to the season. Might have been a few Pirate fans that were confused. But let’s be honest, they just need talent….younger than McLouth’s 27, if that makes sense.
Escobar is gonna do that one too many times and Bobby is gonna bench him for a game or two. Of course, Frenchy doesn’t do that stuff, or anything, really.
Considering that Franceour has played in almost 100 more games……other than triples, RBI’s (and not by that much on RBI’s), homers (Franceour has him by 1), and stolen bases (again, Franceour has him by 1)…….McCann has Franceour easily beat. In 600 less at-bats, McCann has way more walks, way less strikeouts, 30 points higher on the batting average, and of course, the 3 All-Star appearances.
It’s not even close. Brian McCann is a MUCH better hitter than Jeff Franceour. Other than the triples………McCann is going to CRUSH Franceour’s numbers when he gets 600 more at-bats.
I want to say upfront I have Never heard anything about YE being a problem in the clubhouse or with his teammates. But is he? Could he be available because he is? Just asking.
We manufactured a run there. Good for us. Coach will be happy. I’m happy. The offense seems to have found the spark that it needed with McLouth at the top.
But that inning was a prime example of a team “settling” for one run in an inning that could have put the game away.
Unlike Tomahawkin, I don’t think it’s “in the bag”. But certainly we should win this game. So it shouldn’t come back to bite us.
so i guess u just have to be ridiculous at stealing in order for bobby to send you cause hes running more frequently with the new kid on the block then anyone else lately
Who the he!! is the base running coach? Better yet do any of the Coaches on Bobby’s coaching staff do anything? All need to go except Perez and Hubbie.
yeah i dont agree with it. personally i think bobby has done some things i would not have thought he would this year. i really dont know whats going through his head.
Just checked out the PawSox stats. Not much hitting going on there. Pitching looks good, but we need sticks and I kinda doubt the BoSox are going to be able to give up anyone on the everyday roster.
OK lets look at that 6th innig. A batting average of 750 but only one run thanks to a stolen base. No discipline
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Driver8
June 8th, 2009
8:50 pm
Hard to believe the Pirates had Bay, McLouth and Nady in the OF. That’s an All Star Outfield in my mind but all are gone. Small market I know but I can see how pissed off the Pirate fans must be with the moves they have made. Oh well better them than us!
bigmacattack
June 8th, 2009
8:50 pm
and there’s his absolute maximum 3 runs given up … now you’re allowed nothing (though chances are his pinch hit for this half inning). So this game will be in the bullpen’s hands now
Frenchy is a complete joke.
June 8th, 2009
8:50 pm
Bennett….. dont pay attention to his pretty good numbers its a trick.
Bobby Cox
June 8th, 2009
8:51 pm
What is with me and Jeff’s: Francoeur and Bennett?
Seriously, I am asking. Even I do not know.
David O'Brien
June 8th, 2009
8:51 pm
That was McCann’s first homer off a lefty this season
ncscoots
June 8th, 2009
8:51 pm
So THAT’s why they traded McLouth
Yeah, kinda. Not bad when you can move a non-impact player like McLouth, bring up a good prospect at the minimum, replenish the position in the minors, and get at least one likely mid-rotation starter, all at the same time. Someone was having pity on the Pirates for that trade? Puh-leeze.
McLouth is a fine player, glad to have him, but, let’s not get carried away and think he’s some game-changing star and the Braves just pillaged the Pirates.
Half Off
June 8th, 2009
8:51 pm
Quality start for KK?
About the same “quality” as sushi found in the deli case at Winn Dixie.
Tomahawkin
June 8th, 2009
8:51 pm
Offense, Come Back Out And Put This Game Away…
This Pirates Team Doesn’t Give Up and have already given us fits with their speed
I do not Want to see Craig Monroe Up With the game on the Line Against our Bull-pen…
I still remember that game where he killed us in Pittsburgh
BT
June 8th, 2009
8:52 pm
We need some help in left. He is like a statue out there. Pitiful effort
sidslidkid
June 8th, 2009
8:52 pm
wow.. Kelly is struggling lately.
braves
June 8th, 2009
8:52 pm
hanson next start will be in cincinnati and those guys can hit long ball too. would have been nice to start him agains pittsburgh.
bravos2249
June 8th, 2009
8:53 pm
One Reason the Braves let Glavine and Smoltz go…they didn’t want this convo
Hanson: [Seeing Smoltz take off his shirt, revealing white suff on his chest] What’s that s*** on your chest?
Smoltz: [Looking at his chest] Crisco.
Smoltz: [wiping it across his head]
Smoltz: Bardol.
Smoltz: [wiping it along his waist line]
Smoltz: Vagisil. Any one of them will give you another two to three inches drop on your curve ball. Of course if the umps are watching me real close I’ll rub a little jalapeno up my nose, get it runnin’, and if I need to load the ball up I just…
Smoltz: [wipes his nose]
Smoltz: …wipe my nose.
Hanson: You put snot on the ball?
Smoltz: I haven’t got an arm like you, kid. I have to put anything on it I can find. Someday you will too.
Loaf Garret on a blackberry chillin in the dugout
June 8th, 2009
8:53 pm
I told you guys my feet are a barkin. No way am I risking doing any permanent damage to my body….I have a lot of planes after my baseball career. EWWWWW, Bobby is pickin his nose!!
Chop It Up All-star
June 8th, 2009
8:53 pm
I know Matt Diaz has shown he can hit in the past, but man I hate those wild swings; he’s just effectively ugly I guess.
Unknown
June 8th, 2009
8:54 pm
Braves desperately need to unload or release Franqueer, Loaf, and Norton.
Jeff321
June 8th, 2009
8:54 pm
Anyone seen Medlen come out of the pen yet?
Heath (Cleveland)
June 8th, 2009
8:54 pm
Bennett’s last 6 appearances…
5 2/3 innings pitches… 1 run… 1 hit… 4 BB… not awful.
braves
June 8th, 2009
8:54 pm
diaz is baaaaaaaaaaaaaad.
BravesFanChris24
June 8th, 2009
8:54 pm
That was an LOL ~_~
Chop It Up All-star
June 8th, 2009
8:54 pm
And that was ineffectively ugly…lol.
Pennski
June 8th, 2009
8:54 pm
lol diaz… what the hell was that??
Tomahawkin
June 8th, 2009
8:54 pm
Oversliding a base, Only the Braves!
Bobby Cox
June 8th, 2009
8:54 pm
That is really something I’d expect Escobar to do.
PWHjort
June 8th, 2009
8:55 pm
Why the hell did Bobby start Garret Anderson in left against a left-hander? When Diaz covers SO MUCH more ground than Garret and doesn’t lollygag in the field like Garret and oh yeah, he’s a better hitter than Garret even against righties, not to mention lefties.
Bravosnumbaone
June 8th, 2009
8:55 pm
Anyone else remember when you didn’t have to get constant blasted with “Erectile Dysfunction” drug ads? Makes me want to puke.
bravos2249
June 8th, 2009
8:55 pm
braves
Um last time I heard pitchers don’t have 8 days rest..his next start is in Baltimore.
bigmacattack
June 8th, 2009
8:55 pm
hanson next start will be in cincinnati
Why would they give him the Baltimore series off?
N8
June 8th, 2009
8:55 pm
Wow. Even when we get extra basehits we’re out.
cabravesfan
June 8th, 2009
8:55 pm
Cursing my TV with my front door wide open…not good
Dr. Mark Martinez
June 8th, 2009
8:56 pm
That’s Matty Diaz for you folks!Love that hustle!
Heath (Cleveland)
June 8th, 2009
8:56 pm
Hit by Diaz makes me wonder even more why he was not starting tonight against a lefty.
Rob (from SC)
June 8th, 2009
8:56 pm
Sometimes we look like a T-Ball team. Why the hell are they laughing. That could be a huge mistake.
BravesFanChris24
June 8th, 2009
8:56 pm
Since we’re in the lead that was OK. If it bites us, hopefully not, then that’s BAD! ~_~
Epinephrine
June 8th, 2009
8:56 pm
Well another quality start from KK. Not going to knock anyone’s socks off, but given what we have been used to seeing from the 5 spot (where I think he will be after Hanson settles in), what an improvement. It’s our game to lose from here. Moylan-Soriano-Gonzales, perhaps coming up. Wouldn’t mind seeing Kris Medlen finally make an appearance either.
Efrim
June 8th, 2009
8:56 pm
scoots, agreed. But given the lack of outfield options the Braves had, I think it makes sense. But I will NOT call it a fleecing for the Braves. No way. They gave up a few of very good prospects. You were a big Morton fan, right?
Loaf Garret on a blackberry chillin in the dugout
June 8th, 2009
8:57 pm
PWHjort–I don’t know why he started me tonight either. Very good observation on your part, son.
John
June 8th, 2009
8:57 pm
Hey…while they’re in town…I think Wren should approach the Pirates about trading Freddy Sanchez and McCutchen…for KJ and Frenchy…ya NEVER know …
Tomahawkin
June 8th, 2009
8:57 pm
That Baserunning Case of Bad Luck will Hurt, “Bank On It!”
Mixxo
June 8th, 2009
8:57 pm
Where’s my facepalm smiley?
Fugly!
bravos2249
June 8th, 2009
8:57 pm
I hope Diaz stays in the game
hubris
June 8th, 2009
8:57 pm
well.. i guess matt diaz wanted to join a slapstick troupe or something..
enjoyed the hustle, but as usual, diaz overdoes stuff everything…
overswing, overrun, etc.
Brett
June 8th, 2009
8:57 pm
because peter. he got hit the other day and probably couldnt have played all game is what im guessing
Roy the Insider
June 8th, 2009
8:57 pm
Yunel Escobar to be traded after tonight’s game to the Red Sox for Jacob Ellsbury and John Smoltz.
Rob (from SC)
June 8th, 2009
8:57 pm
McLouth can hit
BravesFanChris24
June 8th, 2009
8:58 pm
Have a night McLouth!
braves
June 8th, 2009
8:58 pm
this guy nate can work the count well
Frenchy is a complete joke.
June 8th, 2009
8:58 pm
thanks Diaz u shouldnt even get a single in books for that wow. so much for a chance for a insurance run.
Chop It Up All-star
June 8th, 2009
8:58 pm
McLouth can just rake…great pick up!!
Tommy Hanson's favorite musical
June 8th, 2009
8:58 pm
Funny Girl – the story of FANNY Brice.
Steve from OH
June 8th, 2009
8:58 pm
Efrim, scoots–it’s possible for a trade to work for both clubs, right?
Rob (from SC)
June 8th, 2009
8:58 pm
McLouth is a player
BravesFanChris24
June 8th, 2009
8:58 pm
McLouth with another steal!
bravos2249
June 8th, 2009
8:59 pm
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4240565
haha…Big Papi unlike McCann it ain’t your eyes…you just have lost IT.
Tomahawkin
June 8th, 2009
8:59 pm
Gawd I love Seeing the SB!!!
Brett
June 8th, 2009
9:00 pm
so i guess u just have to be ridiculous at stealing for Bobby to send you
David O'Brien
June 8th, 2009
9:00 pm
That was McLouth’s 30th CONSECUTIVE stolen base without getting caught … and it created a run.
Tomahawkin
June 8th, 2009
9:00 pm
There We Go ESCO!
Rob (from SC)
June 8th, 2009
9:00 pm
Escobar needs baserunning instructions
BravesFanChris24
June 8th, 2009
9:00 pm
McLouth with the wheels!
Yunel Escobar
June 8th, 2009
9:00 pm
Diaz will NOT out-do me when it comes to stupid baserunning, so THERE!
bigmacattack
June 8th, 2009
9:00 pm
ah there’s your Escobar bonehead move of the day!!
bravos2249
June 8th, 2009
9:00 pm
Elsbury hurt his shoulder yesterday….even though that trade is a joke…more believable players would be better.
Rob (from SC)
June 8th, 2009
9:00 pm
and with Chipper up next
Heath (Cleveland)
June 8th, 2009
9:00 pm
Wow…Nate the Great there folks. Great, great trade for Wren.
BravesFanChris24
June 8th, 2009
9:01 pm
Escobar with a hiccup running base, but since it scored a run, it cancels it out ~_~
CCjacket
June 8th, 2009
9:01 pm
maybe we should trade Esco after all…
Just kidding.
Sort of.
Tomahawkin
June 8th, 2009
9:01 pm
Dizam, It Seems Like ESCO Makes a Baserunning Blunder Once Per Week
We Ran Ourselves out of that Inning
We Should be up 7-3 at least!
PWHjort
June 8th, 2009
9:01 pm
Good point, Brett. I hope that is Bobby’s reason and he doesn’t think it would otherwise be a good decision to play Loaf.
bravos2249
June 8th, 2009
9:01 pm
Honestly when you expect the throw to go home you are suppose to round 1st….what was he suppose to do?
If Joe wants to rag on Escobar he needs to rag on Diaz…..had Diaz not done that we’d have 2 runs and not 1!!!!
Frenchy is a complete joke.
June 8th, 2009
9:01 pm
McLouth is a beast!! He can do it all. Diaz is lucky Yunel picked him up with that hit at least we got the run in.
nolie
June 8th, 2009
9:01 pm
just dont get the “a player cant be cut for financial reasons” clause in the collective bargaining agreement. In the NFL, players get cut all the time for “financial reasons”. (PAUL L)
yeah, but only if you can prove it wasn’t for those reasons.
Epinephrine
June 8th, 2009
9:01 pm
McLouth is going to be an obvious fan favorite here. A lot of people have pointed to his decline in offense since his peaks last year. But if I were not so lazy, I’d be extremely interested to look at what his numbers were pre- and post Nady and Bay trade. My bet is his production suffered when they left and he was forced to hit without real protection in the lineup. Now he has that again.
And Yunel. Half the plays he makes you absolutely love him, and half the plays you want to scream, what are you doing. Sometimes you want to do both on the same play.
Coldwork
June 8th, 2009
9:02 pm
Escobar has to be the worst base runner in the bigs.
bigmacattack
June 8th, 2009
9:02 pm
so how big of an inning would this be if the Braves didn’t have greedy players on the team??
Efrim
June 8th, 2009
9:02 pm
Steve from OH, absolutely. I think both clubs accomplished their goals with the trade. I thought a letter from Huntington was a little much, but they did sign him prior to the season. Might have been a few Pirate fans that were confused. But let’s be honest, they just need talent….younger than McLouth’s 27, if that makes sense.
Tell it like it ain't
June 8th, 2009
9:02 pm
If DOB worked for the Pittsburgh Post Gazette he would be raving about the Pirates and all their up and coming stars.
FloridaBrave
June 8th, 2009
9:02 pm
I wonder if the Braves have picked up on Duke tipping his pitches.
TnBrian
June 8th, 2009
9:02 pm
Escobar is gonna do that one too many times and Bobby is gonna bench him for a game or two. Of course, Frenchy doesn’t do that stuff, or anything, really.
Paul Lentz
June 8th, 2009
9:02 pm
I decided to take a look at the career stats of both Jeff Franceour and Brian McCann:
Jeff Franceour Brian McCann
Games 604 512
At-Bats 2,361 1,762
Batting average .266 .298
Doubles 122 129
Triples 12 2
Homers 77 76
RBI’s 349 317
Walks 122 171
Strikeouts 463 234
Stolen Bases 11 10
All-Star appearances 0 3
Considering that Franceour has played in almost 100 more games……other than triples, RBI’s (and not by that much on RBI’s), homers (Franceour has him by 1), and stolen bases (again, Franceour has him by 1)…….McCann has Franceour easily beat. In 600 less at-bats, McCann has way more walks, way less strikeouts, 30 points higher on the batting average, and of course, the 3 All-Star appearances.
It’s not even close. Brian McCann is a MUCH better hitter than Jeff Franceour. Other than the triples………McCann is going to CRUSH Franceour’s numbers when he gets 600 more at-bats.
Salamander
June 8th, 2009
9:02 pm
Top 4 spots of Braves lineup are starting to shape up very nicely.
Loaf Garret I don't need a shower,my uniform is clean too
June 8th, 2009
9:02 pm
You guys are nothing without me
Chop It Up All-star
June 8th, 2009
9:02 pm
Escobar is to clutch, as Escobar is to a terrible baserunner.
keylargo
June 8th, 2009
9:02 pm
I want to say upfront I have Never heard anything about YE being a problem in the clubhouse or with his teammates. But is he? Could he be available because he is? Just asking.
AndyC
June 8th, 2009
9:03 pm
I have never seen so many base running errors as I have this season. Terrible.
N8
June 8th, 2009
9:03 pm
We manufactured a run there. Good for us. Coach will be happy. I’m happy. The offense seems to have found the spark that it needed with McLouth at the top.
But that inning was a prime example of a team “settling” for one run in an inning that could have put the game away.
Unlike Tomahawkin, I don’t think it’s “in the bag”. But certainly we should win this game. So it shouldn’t come back to bite us.
Brett
June 8th, 2009
9:03 pm
so i guess u just have to be ridiculous at stealing in order for bobby to send you cause hes running more frequently with the new kid on the block then anyone else lately
Say What?
June 8th, 2009
9:03 pm
Escobar has to be the worst base runner in the bigs.
You must not have seen Diaz last inning huh?
LuisG
June 8th, 2009
9:03 pm
Two runners thrown out on the basepaths in the same inning? When will we perform better in facet of baseball?
PWHjort
June 8th, 2009
9:03 pm
Yunel needs to stop eating paint chips.
BravesFanChris24
June 8th, 2009
9:03 pm
Way to go Moylan. Let’s get two more outs please ~_~
LuisG
June 8th, 2009
9:03 pm
Two runners thrown out on the basepaths in the same inning? When will we perform better in THIS facet of baseball?
o-me
June 8th, 2009
9:04 pm
Who the he!! is the base running coach? Better yet do any of the Coaches on Bobby’s coaching staff do anything? All need to go except Perez and Hubbie.
Brett
June 8th, 2009
9:04 pm
yeah i dont agree with it. personally i think bobby has done some things i would not have thought he would this year. i really dont know whats going through his head.
MONTAG!
bigmacattack
June 8th, 2009
9:05 pm
You must not have seen Diaz last inning huh?
Last inning??
Nope … that was two “blunders” in 1 inning.
Virginia Ranger
June 8th, 2009
9:05 pm
Just checked out the PawSox stats. Not much hitting going on there. Pitching looks good, but we need sticks and I kinda doubt the BoSox are going to be able to give up anyone on the everyday roster.
OK lets look at that 6th innig. A batting average of 750 but only one run thanks to a stolen base. No discipline
Heath (Cleveland)
June 8th, 2009
9:05 pm
Nate is now 5-15 (.333) with a 2B, a HR, 4runs, and 2 RBI with ATL.
Rob (from SC)
June 8th, 2009
9:06 pm
THAT WAS UGLY
Jeff321
June 8th, 2009
9:06 pm
Gimper with yet another error! Did I mention he was the team leader in ERRORS?
bravos2249
June 8th, 2009
9:06 pm
TnBrian
Frenchy isn’t on base enough to make mistakes like that.
Paul
You just now figured that out?
Jeff321
June 8th, 2009
9:06 pm
What! They didn’t give Gimper an error on that play?!