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Gil In Mechanicsville
June 8th, 2009
6:54 pm
No way the Braves let Gonzo and Soriano leave next year unless there is an order from Liberty to sell the farm or they just prove to be ineffective. Said it before, the Braves can spend as much as they want, the money is there. Those caps are self imposed.
That said, they have some of you pretty brainwashed into believing they are 2 steps away from qualify for food stamps. Folks, there is a reason they would never show their books to the union.
Personally, I would like to see baseball go to a salary cap of some type like the NBA or NFL. Then you would really see the difference in a smart baseball organization and on that spends money like the federal government. Would be no more excuses for being a small market. Which Atlanta isn’t by the way….
RC
June 8th, 2009
6:54 pm
Steve from OH,
Soriano will likely not be a Type A.
Efrim
June 8th, 2009
6:54 pm
Steve from OH, you might be right. But if he has a big year this year, I’d have to imagine he’ll be at least Type B.
Back to the draft, I don’t buy Crow not going within the top 6. I see some team taking him. Which may help us get Wheeler or Matzek.
Buffalo NY Braves Fan
June 8th, 2009
6:55 pm
No More Bobby,
It gives them some sort of satisfaction of finishing first in something in their meaningless lives?
Or they just feel like it…
I’ll let the blog decide.
Epinephrine
June 8th, 2009
6:55 pm
JimC, the only shame is no one will probably remember that comment in three months. But I will, and every time I see your name I will think, “JimC-ah yes, the person with questionable intelligence that thought Tommy Hanson would be a “flash in the pan.” Disregard and move on.”
a643dp
June 8th, 2009
6:56 pm
BREAKING NEWS–
TOM GLAVINE AND JEFF FRANCOEUR WHERE SPOTTED AT A LOCAL HIGH SCHOOL PARKING LOT PREPARING A MARKETING VIDEO TITLED “TOM GLAVINE IS BACK”. THE PRODUCER OF THE VIDEO STEVIE JANOWSKI(KENNY POWERS ASSISTANT) HAS REQUESTED THAT THE VIDEO SUBJECT MATTER BE KEPT TOP SECRET. WE WERE ABLE TO OBTAIN INFORMATION THAT DESCRIBED GLAVINE THROWING PITCHES WHILE FIRECRACKERS EXPLODED IN THE BACKGROUND. ONE MORE DETAIL DECRIBED A FURIOUS JANOWSKI SCREAMING AT FRANCOEUR TO NOT SWING AT THE BALL. ACCORDING TO SOURCES JANOWSKI EVENTUALLY MADE FRANCOEUR STAND AT THE PLATE WITHOUT A BAT. THE VIDEO IS SAID TO HAVE A JUNE RELEASE DATE.
bravos2249
June 8th, 2009
6:56 pm
Steve from OH
I would think so….I think Smoltz was a type A…but since we didn’t offer arbitration instead of a contract we didn’t get anything for himm.
Gil In Mechanicsville
June 8th, 2009
6:56 pm
No More Bobby Because they are 12 years old and it amuses them. Like throwing water balloons, but different…
Jeff321
June 8th, 2009
6:56 pm
No way the Braves let Gonzo and Soriano leave next year unless there is an order from Liberty to sell the farm or they just prove to be ineffective.
IMO, the Braves won’t spend the coin necessary to retain either one of these guys. They could always prove me wrong..
dogsbrekky
June 8th, 2009
6:56 pm
sidslidkid – Go to “The Stage” on the main street (think it is Broadway) for live music and then there is a place called Jacks BBQ just nearby which was very good !
I am not a country fan but I have seen some awesome acts there in Nashville at the Stage
Steve from OH
June 8th, 2009
6:57 pm
Efrim, I agree. That would leave one of ‘em for us, if Pittsburgh takes Sanchez.
Even if Sori is a type B, we’d still be looking at another 1st rounder and 2 supplemental picks for Gonzo and Soriano.
N8
June 8th, 2009
6:57 pm
“Hanson is a 3-inning flash-in-the-pan. By September, no one will even remember his name.” JimC
Thanks for your input Steve.
bravos2249
June 8th, 2009
6:58 pm
How does Bronson A-Yo-Yo have 7 wins?
Efrim
June 8th, 2009
6:58 pm
and a second rounder.
Original Jon
June 8th, 2009
6:58 pm
a643dp, do you really think anyone bothered to read that?
Efrim
June 8th, 2009
6:59 pm
I think…..
David O'Brien
June 8th, 2009
6:59 pm
Rumor is Charlie Morton might get called up to start Wednesday against the Braves.
Steve from OH
June 8th, 2009
6:59 pm
Thanks for your input Steve.
You’re….welcome?
bravos2249
June 8th, 2009
6:59 pm
KK’s numbers are better than Arroyo’s but Bronson has 7 wins and KK has 6 losses…can we say RUN SUPPORT.
Lew
June 8th, 2009
6:59 pm
Gil-And what exactly, makes you think they are going to spend all this money you think they have available? Past performance? They may not qualify for food stamps, but with the attendance we’re NOT putting up so far, you can bet the payroll won’t go up. Gonzo and Soriano are making a combined $10 mil this year and both would be Free Agents this winter. What makes you think they’ll be any cheaper than they are now or that the Braves would pay $15 or so mil to re-sign them?
bravos2249
June 8th, 2009
6:59 pm
DOB
lol that would be a sight…who was suppose to pitch that day again?
sidslidkid
June 8th, 2009
7:00 pm
dogsbrekky, Thanks man! I just may check out those places.
Don King
June 8th, 2009
7:01 pm
Hey DOB! Way to hype the kid Tommy Hanson, the Braves’ great wide hope.
I couldn’t have done better myself.
a643dp
June 8th, 2009
7:02 pm
Original Bathroom —–Evidentaly you dont have HBO and choose to watch walker texas ranger. It was angled around the show. You dont have to read it so go back to your bingo game sir.
nolie
June 8th, 2009
7:02 pm
i dont think so. one of them will be resigned. there arent enough closers on the market for the braves to let two of the best ones in the league go (DAP)
I agree, I think at least one of them will be resigned unless they want an exorbitant amount of money.
Tommy Hanson is a lard@$$
June 8th, 2009
7:03 pm
The presence of Tommy Hanson will really BUTTRESS the Braves pitching staff.
ncscoots
June 8th, 2009
7:03 pm
Why do people waste the first spot in comments by just posting FIRST?
Bubba, that’s the least offensive waste of space on the entire blog. Would that some of our more prolific Einsteinian wonders could be so cogent.
George Tiller
June 8th, 2009
7:04 pm
Getting about time to abort Francoeur from the lineup, isn’t it?
Jeff321
June 8th, 2009
7:04 pm
FYI – Coming up after the break on FSN Pittsburgh: They have an interview with Clout.
dogsbrekky
June 8th, 2009
7:05 pm
My man Longoria is back for the Rays at home run field and we have them on ESPN and the Braves on mlb.tv
woo hoo
sidslidkid
June 8th, 2009
7:05 pm
Anybody think Prado has a shot at being a full time starter for us next year? I’m liking the guy more and more.
Steve from OH
June 8th, 2009
7:05 pm
nolie, if anyone, I would think Gonzo. Don’t see Soriano giving a hometown discount, and I don’t think the Braves are too bullish on his injury history…
oldschool
June 8th, 2009
7:06 pm
Well morton will probably throw a no-hitter
a643dp
June 8th, 2009
7:06 pm
About time they put the Braves in HD on the MLB package.
Tommy Hanson is a lard@$$
June 8th, 2009
7:07 pm
Tommy Hanson pitches well as long as he doesn’t get BEHIND in the count.
George Tiller
June 8th, 2009
7:08 pm
Also getting about time to abort talk of Tommy Hanson’s rear end.
Timmy Hudson
June 8th, 2009
7:08 pm
I am also liking Martin Prado more and more. I love it when he sings to me in Spanish.
cs95
June 8th, 2009
7:08 pm
hey DOB,
have you talked to bobby cox about if he has considered benching francoeur for more than one game?
bravos2249
June 8th, 2009
7:08 pm
how many wanna bet Kenshin knows more English than Escobar?
Tomahawkin
June 8th, 2009
7:08 pm
Offense Has to Spot Kamakaze A few runs early like we did in that game against the Jays, Nuff Said
monty
June 8th, 2009
7:09 pm
I know I’m fighting a losing battle here because everyone is in love with Hanson, don’t get me wrong I wish him well I hope he wins 300 games for us. But I do see it’s hard for people to seperate the hype from reality. Will he be great? Man I hope so, I’ll be his biggest supporter. Is he talented? Extremely. But the hype borders on the mythical. Adjectives like “great” and “electric” have been tossed about in reference to his debut.(wrong) He has been called “Mr”.Hanson, or reported that the Hanson “era” has begun, etc..etc.. but lets look at the facts or stats: his line was 6 innings-6 hits, 3 of those hits left the yard, one was a double by the opposing pitcher. 2 singles,(16 total bases in 6 innings) and all he gets is one compliment after another and don’t you dare criticize his performance, if you critcize you weren’t “watching the game.” Thats crazy, I watched everyone of those HR’s leave the park. By listening to reporters and bloggers I don’t think the guy could have done anything wrong in most peoples eyes once he struck out the side that one time. But here’s what I’m getting at when it comes to predjudicial hype. In Kris Medlen’s debut he pitched into the 4th(faced 4 batters in the 4th and he lost his composure, lost his control and had to be taken out) he gave up 3 measly singles in those innings, (3 total bases) and what do reporters write? He got “pounded.” No “flashes of brilliance”, no era beginning, no “great for a while.” He improved each time out but still everyone wanted Hanson and I can understand that he’s 6′6″ and throws 96 that’s not hard to understand. But Medlen has pitched 14.1 innings. given up only 11 hits, only 4 of those hits were for extra bases. So, thats 15 total bases in 14.1 innings and 16 total bases by HAnson in just 6. Don’t tell me that’s not hype. If Medlen had gotten “pounded” like Hanson did yesterday just imagine the headlines and the wrath of most bloggers who give Hanson’s work high marks. Enough said.
Tommy Hanson is a lard@$$
June 8th, 2009
7:09 pm
Tommy Hanson was late getting to the ballpark today. It seems he was involved in a large “rear ender”.
Tomahawkin
June 8th, 2009
7:10 pm
If The Offense can Spot Kamakaze a few runs early it will take the Pressure off of him to throw shut-out baseball…
His 3-6 Record is Deceptive because with a better offense he probably has a 5-3 record right now
Gil In Mechanicsville
June 8th, 2009
7:10 pm
Lew, they will spend whatever they want to spend… They may make excuses but in the end, they will spend what they want. if they choose not to, they won’t. There is a big difference between can’t and won’t.
That said, sense so much is made about the money, why don’t we have two leagues that are divided by payroll? Can have New York, Boston, LA in one league and everybody else in another.
I am just tired of hearing everybody cry because they can’t afford to compete. Well, if you can’t afford the price of admission, don’t go to the show.
Baseball could make it fair for everybody if they had the will. Just seems folks are always looking for the easy way out.
RHR
June 8th, 2009
7:11 pm
Good for Charlie, just as long as he doesn’t beat us.
Thanks nolie, I’m not familiar with that Shanks dude. Guess I’m an emotional fan.
I like when Frenchy is higher up in the order. Why? Because he sucks in every spot but he claims he doesn’t get anything to hit when he bats 7th or 8th so I like it just for the WHAT NOW FOO? factor.
Why in god’s name why didn’t the bleeding Brewer’s manager just walk Chipper in that a bat where he craned the 3 run hr ??
Definitely not one of the geniuses but….he didn’t see the braves/cubs game last Tuesday night?
Il Cattivo
June 8th, 2009
7:11 pm
I’m guessing its the same “Boyer – goo” guy doing this “hanson – butt” thing. Dude,it wasnt funny to begin with. stop already.
sidslidkid
June 8th, 2009
7:11 pm
monty, hope you got you flame proof suit on.
Heath (Cleveland)
June 8th, 2009
7:14 pm
It would be interesting to see how Morton faired against the Braves if he does in fact get called up…interesting.
Peppridge Blogs Remembers
June 8th, 2009
7:15 pm
These three posters:
Tommy Hanson is a lard@$$
Blaine Boyer is a tub of goo
Kelly’s Big Johnson
Have GOT to be the same person.
ncscoots
June 8th, 2009
7:16 pm
BASteve, re Francoeur to the minors: Brandon isn’t slugging, the rest of the AAA OFs are scrubs, Anderson can’t play every day, and Diaz would just get exposed with more playing time. There’s no obvious replacement for the guy. Blows, but there it is. Only bloggers can get away with thinking that change, just for the sake of change, is a brilliant maneuver. The Braves’ FO has to give it a little more thought than that.
Il Cattivo
June 8th, 2009
7:16 pm
Pit has two speedsters at the top of the lineup. And KK let one of them on.
Kevin McGlinchy
June 8th, 2009
7:16 pm
DOB — where do the Braves stay in Baltimore, and do you know about what time they show up to the park for a 7:05 pm game?
Tommy Hanson is the best thing since cold beer
June 8th, 2009
7:16 pm
“I’m guessing its the same “Boyer – goo” guy doing this “hanson – butt” thing. Dude,it wasnt funny to begin with. stop already.”
I’ll stop when everyone stops overhyping his “lardness”. We had to listen for several seasons about how great Blaine Boyer was. Now we have to suffer with all this nonsense about Tommy Hanson.
Maybe he’ll be good, maybe not. We don’t know yet. The fact is most rookies do NOT become great or even good players.
oldschool
June 8th, 2009
7:17 pm
100% right on Monty
sidslidkid
June 8th, 2009
7:17 pm
Scary play
Tomahawkin
June 8th, 2009
7:17 pm
Man I get Nervous watching this team field Pop-Ups
sidslidkid
June 8th, 2009
7:18 pm
Attaboy McCann!
Original Jon
June 8th, 2009
7:18 pm
a643dp, haha, so original of you to get all pissy when someone has something negative to say about your posts, lol. You are a waste of time.
Tomahawkin
June 8th, 2009
7:18 pm
Good Call On The Pitchout! Nice
Mixxo
June 8th, 2009
7:18 pm
Mac ….and his gun!
Heath (Cleveland)
June 8th, 2009
7:18 pm
Nice play…u out!
Kelly Johnson uses a cereal box for a mitt
June 8th, 2009
7:18 pm
“These three posters: Tommy Hanson is a lard@$$, Blaine Boyer is a tub of goo, Kelly’s Big Johnson – Have GOT to be the same person.”
No. I have never referred to Kelly’s Big… that’s crude and unfunny.
Jake C.
June 8th, 2009
7:18 pm
Hey DOB, I am going to be up at PNC Park for their weekend series against the Pirates. What do you recommend to eat at PNC or anywhere around the ballpark?
Frank from KS
June 8th, 2009
7:19 pm
Savannah Guy re: your 6:21 pm
Great post sir.
Paul Lentz
June 8th, 2009
7:19 pm
Franceour batting 6th in tonight’s lineup? Unreal, but not surprising. As a long time Braves fan, it pains me to see Bobby Cox stubbornly refusing to bench Jeff Franceour. If Bobby’s reasoning is that Franceour’s defense is too valuable, ok I could buy that (even though I would disagree with that reasoning, I can “buy” it). Bobby can “value” Franceour’s defense and still bat him 8th. But 6th? And 5th yesterday? Dude is the WORST bat in the line-up. He’s killing us offensively. I could CARE LESS about his “confidence” being affected by such a move. I care about WINNING, not providing “welfare feel-good” for sentimental, so-called Braves fans who need to see Franceour play because he is a “hometown hero”.
If Franceour is still starting when Omar Infante comes back, then I’ll start advocating for Bobby Cox to retire. If he doesnt, then I feel that he would need to be fired. I appreciate what Bobby has done for the Braves since he has been with the Braves. However, if Braves fans rightfully feel that unproductive, past their prime players should be “shown the door”……then the same thinking has to be applied to the Manager who refuses to get past his “affection” to Jeff Franceour. It pains me to see the Braves not putting the best line-up out there that they can. It especially pains me to see Jeff Franceour batting any higher than 8th in the batting line-up.
Original Jon
June 8th, 2009
7:19 pm
Hey DOB, why are the planning on bringing up Morton? Did someone get injured that we dont know about?
Dog of Flanders
June 8th, 2009
7:20 pm
a$$-bestos underwear
sidslidkid
June 8th, 2009
7:21 pm
Good start
BravesFanChris24
June 8th, 2009
7:22 pm
Atta Boy McLouth!
bravos2249
June 8th, 2009
7:23 pm
Well McLouth is faster than kelly cause that would have been a double play had KJ been on first.
RHR
June 8th, 2009
7:23 pm
Really Original Jon?
sidslidkid
June 8th, 2009
7:23 pm
God he’s good….
David O'Brien
June 8th, 2009
7:23 pm
I think Chipper’s feeling good.
Tommy Hanson is fishing for success
June 8th, 2009
7:23 pm
Tommy Hanson is thinking about quiting baseball so can pursue his true love – the BASS MASSTERS.
bravos2249
June 8th, 2009
7:23 pm
Original Jon
It’s the Pirates so DOB probably doesn’t know.
MAN CHIPPER IS HOT!
Tomahawkin
June 8th, 2009
7:23 pm
There WE GO HOSS!!!!!!
Louisville brave
June 8th, 2009
7:24 pm
hoss on the juice?
Mixxo
June 8th, 2009
7:24 pm
Hoss = Hawt!!!
RHR
June 8th, 2009
7:24 pm
MAMA THERE GOES THAT MAN!
Is he on fire or what?
Heath (Cleveland)
June 8th, 2009
7:24 pm
Wow…Chipper’s got the power stroke goin’ the last couple of days…must be the reunion with the 3-hole in the lineup.
Epinephrine
June 8th, 2009
7:24 pm
Holy crap Chipper. Remember, in our normal lineup chances are that is a 1 run homerun. Give credit to McLouth there too.
BravesFanChris24
June 8th, 2009
7:24 pm
Chipper!
Tomahawkin
June 8th, 2009
7:24 pm
There Goes The Runs I called for that was Needed For Kamakaze…
Man Chipper Has Been Clownin!!!!
bravos2249
June 8th, 2009
7:24 pm
I hope Chipper is hot like this when we play the Red Sox and Yankees.
DirtyYuni
June 8th, 2009
7:25 pm
That never gets old.
RHR
June 8th, 2009
7:25 pm
Eh according to Anders he’s corking his bat.
Hater.
cs95
June 8th, 2009
7:26 pm
anyone think chipper is a little extra motivated to stay in the three hole?
oldschool
June 8th, 2009
7:26 pm
There you go kk see what you can do with it
nolie
June 8th, 2009
7:26 pm
e need to make a trade for Mark Derosa. When Jo Jo and Infante get back we can trade Kelly, Frenchy and Jo Jo. (a643)
let me see if I understand this, you want to trade JoJo,KJ and Frenchy for ONE journeyman player like DeRo who has never hit with much power except in traditional hitter’s parks? All three of them? Nah, I don’t think so.
keylargo
June 8th, 2009
7:27 pm
Anybody think Prado has a shot at being a full time starter for us next year? I’m liking the guy more and more. sidslidkid
That has been debated on the blog ad nauseum. Most feel Prado is a good utility player and nothing more. He is valueable at what he does best – fill in several positions without a major falloff in production.
TnBrian
June 8th, 2009
7:27 pm
What does Kawakami got in his mouth when he pitches? Candy or somethin?
Chipper might hit 30 HR’s this year. More like 25, but ya never know.
David O'Brien
June 8th, 2009
7:27 pm
Chipper’s hit over .500 with four homers and 13 RBI in his past seven games.
He’s 10-for-20 against Z. Duke now.
sidslidkid
June 8th, 2009
7:28 pm
Dang… Jeff needs those kind of hits to fall.
N8
June 8th, 2009
7:28 pm
“…don’t get me wrong I wish him well I hope he wins 300 games for us.” monty
Perhaps you should set your sights a little lower. 24 men in the HISTORY of baseball have won 300 games.
I just hope he helps anchor our staff at a reasonable salary for the next 5-6 years and gives us a chance to win. Something a guy with his ability is SURELY capable of doing. The fun part is watching him attempt to do so.
If at any point, his ability goes south and he doesn’t give us a chance to win. Most of us won’t have much issue with brushing him to the side, for the next phenom.
It’s about hope, dude. The only hope that I had with Glavine coming back is that he didn’t shatter a hip slipping on the dugout steps.
In 2007, Glavine COULD HAVE and WOULD HAVE provided us with the innings, to NOT have to make the move for Tex later in the year (as we didn’t need another bat – but JS couldn’t find an arm).
Glavine might have even helped us in 2008. But he got hurt. Glavine’s job in 2009 was to “bridge the gap” to Hanson. Hanson’s here and Glavine didn’t pitch.
As for the Medlen/Hanson discussion? Do we have to root for only one of them? Or as Braves fans, can we like BOTH of them? Just wondering.
Aristotle
June 8th, 2009
7:28 pm
“That has been debated on the blog ad nauseum. Most feel Prado is a good utility player and nothing more.”
And, of course, since this is a democracy. Bobby Cox shall listen to the will of the people.
Yojii
June 8th, 2009
7:30 pm
“What does Kawakami got in his mouth when he pitches? Candy or somethin?”
Raw octopus.
Paul Lentz
June 8th, 2009
7:30 pm
How can Jeff Franceour play 4 years with Chipper Jones and not learn how to “wait” on a pitch? Chipper Jones drives the ball to all fields. I am sick and tired of hearing a number of you moronic so called Braves fans blaming Terry Pendleton for Franceour SUCKING. Who needs a hitting coach when you have CHIPPER JONES hitting on your team, lol. If Chipper was one of those players who wasnt willing to help the younger players, then I could “understand” the uproar on Terry Pendleton. But come on, lol. I can only imagine the wealthy of information that Chipper Jones has given Franceour that has fallen on deaf ears. Either that, or Jeff Franceour simply does not have the ability to make the adjustments that are necessary to being a good Major League player.
Another typical at-bat from Franceour. Pulls the shoulder and badly misses the first pitch. Amazingly lays off the low and away second pitch. Fouls a very hittable pitch for strike two. Then lunges and pokes his bat and pops a fly to right. Chipper does that and hits homers. Franceour…enough said. Please Frank Wren, make Bobby bench him. Or at least make him bat Franceour 8th in the batting line-up.
lion's gate
June 8th, 2009
7:31 pm
That has been debated on the blog ad nauseum. Most feel Prado is a good utility player and nothing more. He is valueable at what he does best – fill in several positions without a major falloff in production.
Actually, I don’t think there has been any AGREEMENT on the issue. Some still want Martin to play everyday. And, I don’t see how you can come to the conclusion that he’s better as a utility guy, “nothing more”. His only prolonged stretch of starting everyday (last August) produced immense results.
Un-friggin’-believable.
TnBrian
June 8th, 2009
7:31 pm
Yojii, that or sushi flavored candy.
Heath (Cleveland)
June 8th, 2009
7:32 pm
Question for blog… When a player hits in to a fielder’s choice, does this decrease his BA, but increase his OBP?