So here we are. It’s June 7, 2009. You might want to make a mental note of that – the day Tommy Hanson made his debut for the Braves.
Nobody involved is backing down from how significant it is for this organization and how much promise this guy holds, so why should we here at the Braves/MIB blog? (Even the backup blogger, hint, hint.)
I drove into the ballpark behind Hanson today, with Kris Medlen riding shotgun, watched him take a right turn into the player parking lot at 10:08 a.m. Oh, to be a fly on the wall in his Infinity, to know what that feels like, to be right there on the cusp of something so special: the start of his major league career.
Last I saw Hanson before coming up to write this blog, he was sitting at his locker, facing in, listening to his Ipod, thumping his right knee to the beat. Just biding his time.
So now I’m doing my best to get this blog up before he takes the mound and the buildup is obsolete!
Before we go anointing him this or that based on what he does or doesn’t do today, I thought it would be appropriate to take a look back at what the other Braves big guns did in their major league debuts:
We’ll go chronologically:
Greg Maddux made his major league debut for the Chicago Cubs in a game that started Sept. 2, 1986 and ended on Sept. 3, 1986. It was suspended by rain. He entered the game as a pinch runner, then took over in relief in the top of the 18th inning against the Astros. He gave up the losing run on a home run by the pinch-hitting center fielder Billy Hatcher. Cubs lose 8-7.
(Hanson was less than a week old at the time, by the way. He was born August 28, 1986 in Tulsa.)
Course, Maddux being Maddux, he pitched a complete game in his first major league start, going nine innings at Cincinnati, allowing 11 hits but only three runs, walking three and striking out four.
Then came Tom Glavine, who lasted only 3 2/3 innings in his debut on Aug. 17, 1987 in an 11-2 loss to the Astros. He gave up 10 hits, six runs, all earned, and walked five, while striking out only one.
John Smoltz dominated in his major league debut on July 23, 1988 at Shea Stadium. He beat the Mets 6-1, allowing only four hits and a run in eight innings, striking out four and walking one.
Of those three, Hanson gets the most comparisons to Smoltz, given his electric stuff. So maybe that’s the kind of outing we’ll see from him today. (No pressure.) Course the Braves need to score some runs, or ahem, a run, to get him a win.
Another guy Hanson draws comparisons to for the build up to this day is Steve Avery. So Avery’s debut? Wow, just looked it up, and he got pounded. He lasted only 2 1/3 innings, gave up eight hits and eight runs – all earned – in a 13-4 loss to the Reds on June 13, 1990. And really, the Braves in 1990? I wasn’t around here much then, but it can’t have been even this much anticipation, could it have? Some of you old-timers chime in.
So hm, out of those four, including three Hall-of-Fame-bound guys, only one of them won his major league debut. (Sorry Maddog, we’re playing it by the book here.) Maybe Hanson will actually look human today. Or maybe he’ll look like he did for much of spring training – totally dominant.
It’ll be interesting to see, to say the least.
ROSTER MOVE: Meanwhile, the Braves put Casey Kotchman on the disabled list, retro to June 1, with a strained right calf. He tested it out in an on-the-field workout for Bobby Cox this morning and just didn’t have the mobility he needed.
“He’s at least five days away,” Cox said. “He’ll have to let it settle down and heal up.”
Kotchman would be eligible to return the first game of the Braves three-game series in Cincinnati on June 16. At this point, we’ll have to wait and see if he progresses well enough to get there. Meanwhile, they’ve got Martin Prado to play first base, and backing him up, Cox said, are Greg Norton and Matt Diaz.
CHIPPER BETTER: Chipper Jones is back in the lineup and really said he felt better by the ninth inning last night after leaving the game with dizziness. He’s not sure what was going on – he doesn’t think that he was dehydrated, and he said the only other time he’s felt that way was in reaction to some medication he takes for migraines. But he seems to be fine now, so we move ahead.
McCANN BAT DAY: So yeah, wouldn’t you know it’s Brian McCann bat day and there’s no Brian McCann in the lineup. Sounds like the marketing department forgot to consult with the manager or look for a game that wasn’t a day game after a night game.
When I told Cox it was McCann bat day, he said “Maybe he’ll get the game-winner off the bench.” Maybe so.
McLOUTH HITTING LEADOFF: After two games in the No. 3 hole, Cox decided to move Nate McLouth to the leadoff spot. He’s hit in both places comfortably, and I was a little surprised that wasn’t where he hit when he first got here. But Bobby loves McLouth’s home run potential, as well as his speed, and was eyeing him hitting homers with men on base.
Cox said against the left-hander today (Manny Parra), he wanted to give it a different look. McLouth said when he first got here Cox told him he was going to test him out in both spots.
“We’re going to toy with it and see,” Cox said this morning to me.
Whatever it takes to get this team out of this 22-inning scoreless streak. Speaking of, here’s the lineup, then I’ll back out of the way and let Mr. Hanson take center stage….
LINEUP:
1. Nate McLouth CF
2. Yunel Escobar SS
3. Chipper Jones 3B
4. Matt Diaz LF
5. Jeff Francoeur RF
6. Martin Prado 1B
7. Kelly Johnson 2B
8. David Ross C
9. Tommy Hanson P
1,885 comments Add your comment
DJ
June 7th, 2009
1:01 pm
first?
Mixxo
June 7th, 2009
1:06 pm
Lets go Tommy!
Adam
June 7th, 2009
1:08 pm
let us beat these deamons and kill some Brewers.
Adam
June 7th, 2009
1:08 pm
third by the way
Tyler
June 7th, 2009
1:09 pm
Maybe we will bounce back with one of them 10 run games
bravos2249
June 7th, 2009
1:10 pm
I feel sorry for Hanson having to make his debut in that ugly Red uni.
Mark Twine
June 7th, 2009
1:12 pm
Hanson 4 ROY
DJ
June 7th, 2009
1:13 pm
I think 2 braves are going to have a homer tonight. Nate and David.
GO BRAVOS!
Buford Pusser
June 7th, 2009
1:14 pm
Great read Carroll!
Avery’s call-up actually caused quite a stir (here anyway) back then. He’d been highly touted in the minors and we were looking for any bright spot we could find.
I can remember that first start. How deflating it was at the time….
Does Hanson’s butt bring Baby Huey to mind, or is it just me? Huey Hanson has quite a ring to it!
How bout a Hanson’s Hueys fan club? Everybody wears big-ol’ diapers and sports a pacifier…
Mark Twine
June 7th, 2009
1:15 pm
CY Hanson
BravesFanChris24
June 7th, 2009
1:16 pm
Should be a good game. Let’s go Tommy and Nate!
McLouth of the South
June 7th, 2009
1:17 pm
Damn right I’m hittin first. Bout time the old fart figured it out.
Rodney Derrick
June 7th, 2009
1:17 pm
Carroll– Great to have you blogging for the big debut as you usually bring good luck when you return. I assume this is Carroll as the byline at the top says it is and there is no music lyrics.
Shane
June 7th, 2009
1:17 pm
I do remember the Avery debut. It was a big deal. We had been hearing about the kid alot and me and my Braves fan buddies were really anticipating it. Then he got bombed. I just hop the Braves dont put too many inning on Hansons young arm and he ends up in the same boat with Avery
BravesFanChris24
June 7th, 2009
1:18 pm
McLouth in lead off makes sense. Can’t wait to see Hanson work and the new lineup as well.
Efrim
June 7th, 2009
1:20 pm
Jeff Francoeur should not be hitting fifth.
Anyway, Steve from OH, I’m getting a strange feeling that both Wheeler(Baltimore) AND Matzek(San Francisco) will be gone when we select at #7 Tuesday night. The only way it doesn’t happen is if the Padres and Pirates pass on Aaron Crow. Baltimore takes Crow, San Fran takes Matzek, we get Wheeler. What I don’t want to see is a decision between Matzek and White at #7, and because of financial reasons, we go with White. That would upset me more than anything. Can’t do much if Wheeler and Matzek are gone before we select. That’s just bad luck. But taking White over Matzek would suck. Let’s hope we none of that happens and we just get Wheeler…..
and I don’t want to talk about what happened last night. In fact, it didn’t happen.
Salt Lake Brave
June 7th, 2009
1:20 pm
Is it just me or does Jim Powell sound alot like Bob Uecker. And in my opinion that is a great thing. I keep expecting Jim to say “Just a bit outside. Tried for the corner and missed”
Soph
June 7th, 2009
1:21 pm
Pschhh. Win, lose, whatever. Let’s just score a run dammit!
bravos2249
June 7th, 2009
1:22 pm
lol Chipper looked in the dugout like : “Nobody step on my toe, and I’ll be O’kAy.”
Shane
June 7th, 2009
1:22 pm
Funny Salt Lake me and my Dad said the same thing when we first heard Powell
Buford Pusser
June 7th, 2009
1:22 pm
I forgot about the cute little Baby Huey hat for the fan club set…
DirtyYuni
June 7th, 2009
1:22 pm
N8, RHR, Frank, et al. –
Apologies on some omissions from the bitter blogging lineup. I should have rounded out the bench.
Thing is? I don’t think N8 makes it because he doesn’t have enough illogical posts to qualify. If you’re negative but well thought out? That doesn’t cut the mustard.
That’s a whole separate lineup…rationally skeptical or something like that. DOB bats cleanup there.
Chris from the Rock
June 7th, 2009
1:23 pm
I have a feeling that Johnson and Prado will go deep today…
Shamus Thacker
June 7th, 2009
1:24 pm
Hanson’s gonna pitch a shutout; y’all wait and see!
Chop Chop
June 7th, 2009
1:24 pm
Everything’s hyped a lot more now than it was in 1990.
There’s no comparison between pre-Internet and post-Internet hype.
Carroll Rogers
June 7th, 2009
1:24 pm
yes, Rodney, it’s me.
bravos2249
June 7th, 2009
1:24 pm
Salt Lake Brave
Harry Doyle: [Vaughn is coming out to pitch] So, here is Rick Vaughn, the one they call the “Wild Thing”. So, he sets and deals.
[Vaughn throws a wild pitch]
Harry Doyle: Just a bit outside, he tried for the corner and missed.
[Vaughn throws another wild pitch]
Harry Doyle: Ball 4.
[Vaughn throws another wild pitch]
Harry Doyle: Ball 8.
[Vaughn throws another wild pitch]
Harry Doyle: Low, and he walks the bases loaded on 12 straight pitches. How can these guys lay off pitches that close?
TnBrian
June 7th, 2009
1:25 pm
Salt Lake Brave, Uecker saying, “one hit for the Indians…that’s all they got, one God da** hit?” That sounds like what we say after these Braves games lately.
JJ
June 7th, 2009
1:26 pm
Is anyone else getting the Yankees / Rays game on HD? My program guide says Brewers / Braves but the channel is showing Yankees / Rays. Anyone know what’s going on?
bravos2249
June 7th, 2009
1:27 pm
Escobar has been in a funk…..he was hitting .300+ just a few weeks ago.
bravos2249
June 7th, 2009
1:28 pm
JJ
Are you sure it’s the right FS channel? They could have changed it on you.
BravesFanChris24
June 7th, 2009
1:28 pm
2 More Minutes
Salt Lake Brave
June 7th, 2009
1:28 pm
bravos2249
I love that movie. One of my all time favorites. I really wish Jim Powell would throw out some Harry Doyle. Especialy with how bad this Braves team is.
JasonInFL
June 7th, 2009
1:29 pm
Purchased a month’s worth of MLB Premium just to be able to watch Tommy Gun’s first start…again, I think he is going to have a big game: 6IP 1BB 4 HITS 1ER 7Ks
Johnny Quest
June 7th, 2009
1:29 pm
Escobar looks bored.
Shane
June 7th, 2009
1:30 pm
I loved it when Uecker tok a little Jack Daniels and rubbed it behind his ear.
So and So also leads the league in nose hair.
PI Braves
June 7th, 2009
1:30 pm
Sadly it has come down to this. Hanson is the last ‘great hope’ that the faithful Braves fan have for the season. (Unless we follow the bloggers here where we trade/call-up/DFA every time someone sucks in the game.) If Hanson sucks today, who else or what else can be blamed? Fire FW? Trade Frenchy? Move KJ? GA? etc etc..
I really hope Tommy Hanson does well today. This may be the last ‘Ace’ in the Braves deck this season.
TnBrian
June 7th, 2009
1:30 pm
I’ll give Bobby credit for how he handles his pitching staff, even the last few years when they struggled, not any of that blame should’ve gone on Bobby. But, lineups is another story. He doesn’t know when to bench a guy or put him lower in the order.
DJ
June 7th, 2009
1:30 pm
Im ready to go!
Carroll Rogers
June 7th, 2009
1:30 pm
Hanson’s in No. 48. Though we might have known that already….47 plus 1?
Salt Lake Brave
June 7th, 2009
1:31 pm
TnBrian
Doyle’s color man: You can’t say that on the radio
Harry Doyle: Oh whats the difference? No one is listing anyway
JJ
June 7th, 2009
1:31 pm
bravos2249 –
I’m getting the Braves on the non-HD FS channel but the Yankess on the FS HD channel. It’s coming in as SUNTV. Don’t know what’s going on.
N8
June 7th, 2009
1:31 pm
“Thing is? I don’t think N8 makes it because he doesn’t have enough illogical posts to qualify. If you’re negative but well thought out? That doesn’t cut the mustard.” DirtyYuni
Thanks. I’ll try harder.
Steve from OH
June 7th, 2009
1:32 pm
Efrim, I think that is a definite possibility. Another is that San Diego takes take and Baltimore takes Crow, which means we’d probably get one. If you go to the comments section of Keith Law’s draft blog (one of the older ones), I posed that same qustion to him, and he thinks that Miller is the third choice behind Wheeler and Matzek, so I think (hope) that we’re not going to have to settle for White.
Rodney Derrick
June 7th, 2009
1:33 pm
47+1 was a very good line Carroll
Cooper S
June 7th, 2009
1:33 pm
It’s a shame Tommy has to make his debut wearing the hideous Sunday reds
Shamus Thacker
June 7th, 2009
1:34 pm
I just sobbed at the SportsSouth intro…
Carroll Rogers
June 7th, 2009
1:34 pm
McCann took the lineup card today out instead of Snitker…..Weird!
Soph
June 7th, 2009
1:34 pm
I’m kinda nervous for Hanson. High expectations.
Turk 182
June 7th, 2009
1:34 pm
Ever been Hanson-rolled? Prepare for the debut!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sd0C_Us31kk
Rodney Derrick
June 7th, 2009
1:34 pm
Hard to believe DOB not there too for the big debut.
N8
June 7th, 2009
1:34 pm
PI Braves, I disagree. While adding Hanson, instead of Glavine gives us a better chance to win on days the offense isn’t clicking (more often than not, lately), the rotation was fine and would have been with Glavine, Medlen or Morton had he not been traded.
It’s the offense that needs to step up. Without consistently scoring runs, early and often, Hanson (along with the rest of the rotation), won’t have much impact, other than to do what they’ve already been doing.
Which is allowing us to win about half the time.
Carroll Rogers
June 7th, 2009
1:35 pm
gentle stride out to the mound by the lanky-legged Hanson….there go some warm-up tosses.
Soph
June 7th, 2009
1:35 pm
It might be because it’s Brian McCann bat day. So he can show his face.
DJ
June 7th, 2009
1:36 pm
LETS GO!
BravesFanChris24
June 7th, 2009
1:36 pm
Here we go!
Carroll Rogers
June 7th, 2009
1:36 pm
ball one 93.
Rodney Derrick
June 7th, 2009
1:36 pm
Perhaps McCann should coach at third when he is not catching as well instead of Snitker. He knows how to come into third base correctly. In fact, I am sure he could do a better job at bench coach than Chino.
Mr. Fly (sleuth reporter)
June 7th, 2009
1:36 pm
PART FOUR OF THE DAILY BUZZ
The meeting resumes behind closed doors, this time without Frank Wren. This has gotten very, very tense. It seems like somebody’s head will roll. Who will it be? The conversation begins:
DONALD: John, it seems we have multiple issues here. Shall we carry on?
JOHN: Please do. Are you going to break out that chopping hand motion like you did when someone got the axe at the end on your popular TV show?
BOBBY: Tomahawk chop Mr. Trump? Didn’t know you were a Braves fan. We’ve got some good kids. Close games. Could’a gone either way. Frenchy is getting good wood on the ball, just right at people. Barely missing when he whiffs. Game of inches. But he’s a good looking kid, eh? Local high school standout. Lucky to have him.
DONALD: Uh, dunno about all that Bobby. Let’s get back to Mr. Wren’s accusation for a minute. How do you answer that all of this failure is your fault?
BOBBY: Gee, I don’t know Mr. Trump. Wrenny’s a good kid. Nice hair. Looks the part of a GM. Nice suits and ties. Can’t say.
DONALD: Huh? Anyway Bobby, I know you’re not the GM and you didn’t botch these negotiations with Mr. Glavine and Smoltz, but what about the losing record? What about all those people that complain about the lack of game strategy? Unwillingness to play the hot hand or throw that old-school book away? Burning out the bullpen one player at a time? Playing favorites with certain athletes even when they under perform miserably for months and months on end? Leaving Andruw Jones in the cleanup spot so long when it was obvious to even the casual fan that he had no clue and needed to sit?
BOBBY: Good kid. Smiled a lot. Made good swings. Miss him.
DONALD: There’s more: how about your sitting Chipper and McCann at the same time? On and on. You trade for a scrappy leadoff hitter and immediately plunk him into the 3 hole while Kelly has proven time and again that he’s not a leadoff guy? You keep defending Mr. Pendleton as your hitting coach, yet his results are awful and players are starting to seek out their own coaches. Don’t you see a problem with that and the Braves long slumps? Don’t you get to know players strengths and weakness and manage around those?
BOBBY: TP works hard. Always working. There all the time. Working. He works a lot.
DONALD: Uh, well whatever. Mr. Cox, you are the manager in the dugout. You control who plays, who sits, who walks. You manage the coaches. You are like the 10th player on the team. You’ve had a great career of wins, in most part thanks to three HOF pitchers, two of two of whom have recently been thrown out like a week old fish casserole… so what do you contribute to all of this losing to in the last 4 or 5 years?
BOBBY: Well, I dunno about all that. Game of inches. Bad breaks. Good kids. I like to watch.
DONALD: Watch? What? You have no rebuttal or point of view on anything I just said. No defending all of those odd management decisions? No excuses for letting players like Josh Anderson go? No reason you insist on playing Jeff Francoeur every single day even though he clueless at the plate and has lost 5 steps in right field?
BOBBY: Uh, Kelly and Frenchy? They’re good looking kids. Josh wasn’t that good looking. Had trouble once. Didn’t kowtow or fit in the quiet country club atmosphere here. Tattoos and all. Facial hair. Not that photogenic. Never got on the cover of SI. He wasn’t innocent looking. We like good looking boys on the club. All American looks are good for a team, you know.
DONALD: So, if I have this straight, appearance matters more to you than performance and grit?
BOBBY: Looks and chemistry are important in my clubhouse. We want good lookin’ kids here. Fans and press like that. Girls in the stands like it too. No music. Nice, quiet, attractive club and I like players that are timid when they come into my office. Easy to manage that way. No second guessing, no trouble.
DONALD: What about Chipper? He’s an incredible, hall of fame player but I wouldn’t ever consider him a “pretty boy”.
BOBBY: Chipper is my buddy. He disagrees with me all the time and he’s no big cheerleader but he knows how play the game, he knows how to hit and he knows to manage.
DONALD: Manage? Isn’t that your job?
BOBBY: I like to watch.
DONALD: John, I think I’ve heard enough. Let’s break again and get Frank and everyone else back in the room. And, uh, please get Bobby some Kleenex while you’re at it.
The brain trust of the Braves takes another break. Up next, Frank and Bobby square off. Who will be left standing?
Carroll Rogers
June 7th, 2009
1:37 pm
93 strike on. and no i wont’ so this the whole game, not to worry….nice running catch there by francoeur for out No. 1
Frank from KS
June 7th, 2009
1:37 pm
TnBrian
Major League, IMO is the best baseball movie EVER with maybe Major League 2 coming in a close 2nd…especially liked Vaughn’s blonde agent Flannery (Alison Doody).
Lou Brown..”Forget the curve ball Ricky….giv’em a heater”
Lol
N8
June 7th, 2009
1:37 pm
Cool. He’s still got a 0.00 ERA. Only 26 more outs to go for the no-hitter.
Carroll Rogers
June 7th, 2009
1:38 pm
just warming up, 94 to the second hitter, Hardy
Carroll Rogers
June 7th, 2009
1:39 pm
95 to the third hitter, hey this is fun
BravesFanChris24
June 7th, 2009
1:39 pm
1 2 3 Inning for Hanson
Shamus Thacker
June 7th, 2009
1:39 pm
1-2-3!
Soph
June 7th, 2009
1:40 pm
Yay! 1-2-3.
Carroll Rogers
June 7th, 2009
1:40 pm
Hanson’s first inning, nine pitches, six for strikes. flyout, popout, groundout
Mixxo
June 7th, 2009
1:40 pm
There ya go Tommy! That curveball had some serious bite too. Nice!
joe
June 7th, 2009
1:41 pm
Nice in-control first inning. Looks like easy gas, but why don’t they show his pitch speed?
Wheelz007
June 7th, 2009
1:41 pm
Great start. Let’s hope he keeps it up.
Now let’s crank the bats up.
N8
June 7th, 2009
1:41 pm
WTF?? I thought this kid was a strikeout pitcher? Unreal. Send him back down.
DirtyYuni
June 7th, 2009
1:41 pm
I just bought a monthly subscription to MLB.TV essentially just for this game. Consider it worth it.
Surprised by how young Hanson looks, frankly.
RHR
June 7th, 2009
1:41 pm
Noticeable difference in Hanson’s first first and Medlen’s first first eh?
Hanson’s 1st inning in the bigs = yawn….just another day on the mound.
Medlen’s 1st inning in the bigs = oh shi! is that a camera?!
Shamus Thacker
June 7th, 2009
1:41 pm
I’m bout to break-out some 30-year-old liquor and get started celebrating this win!!
TnBrian
June 7th, 2009
1:41 pm
Frank, it is a good movie.
DirtyYuni
June 7th, 2009
1:42 pm
C’mon Nate.
N8
June 7th, 2009
1:43 pm
It was a joke Yuni.
Carroll Rogers
June 7th, 2009
1:43 pm
Soph. that was my thought too.
joe
June 7th, 2009
1:43 pm
Parra has a 9 ERA on the road…so of course he’ll pitch a shutout today
N8
June 7th, 2009
1:43 pm
Actually, I just realized you were saying “C’mon” to McLouth. My bad.
DJ
June 7th, 2009
1:43 pm
job yunel…
the hope of the braves nation rests in your hands mr hanson
June 7th, 2009
1:44 pm
i posted this on the old blog but,
how fast was hanson’s fastball??? i didnt see a readout on fss. why dont they have a readout on fss? my tv screen might not be showing it if it is at the very top. thanks in advance!
DirtyYuni
June 7th, 2009
1:44 pm
Announcers just said 1-4 batters are 1 for 30 in this series for the Braves. That’s fantastic.
the hope of the braves nation rests in your hands mr hanson
June 7th, 2009
1:45 pm
thanks carroll! 95….and a 12 to 6 curve…..sweet.
DirtyYuni
June 7th, 2009
1:45 pm
Haha…no no no, “C’mon Nate” as in Nate McLouth…
BravesFanChris24
June 7th, 2009
1:46 pm
Scoreless streak ends!
Soph
June 7th, 2009
1:46 pm
OMG. A run. Hallelujah!
Shamus Thacker
June 7th, 2009
1:46 pm
OK Chipper, where’s the fountain!?
DJ
June 7th, 2009
1:46 pm
CHIPPER
Hallelujah
June 7th, 2009
1:46 pm
A run!
DirtyYuni
June 7th, 2009
1:46 pm
I encourage you, N8, to try harder. Livens things up.
Mixxo
June 7th, 2009
1:46 pm
OUCH Cameron!
“Tirade Karma” is ruthless!
RHR
June 7th, 2009
1:46 pm
Who else did you think would break the scoreless streak
keylargo
June 7th, 2009
1:47 pm
Come on Diaz, Sac. Fly?
the hope of the braves nation rests in your hands mr hanson
June 7th, 2009
1:47 pm
wow. mike normally doesnt make those kinds of mistakes….yes!
joe
June 7th, 2009
1:47 pm
Eh, spoke too soon….thanks Mike Cameron!
Carroll Rogers
June 7th, 2009
1:47 pm
PI Braves, should I call you Daddy Downer today? Brother Bummer?
triple for CJ thanks to Mike Cameron’s misplay and the 22-inning scoreless streak is over
Soph
June 7th, 2009
1:48 pm
Awww, you gotta get that runner on third in.
DJ
June 7th, 2009
1:48 pm
frenchy cmon…
Mixxo
June 7th, 2009
1:48 pm
Terrible AB Matty, just terrible son.
C’mon!
Steve from OH
June 7th, 2009
1:48 pm
A quick question…why is Francoeur hitting fifth?
kirkinga
June 7th, 2009
1:48 pm
It took some help, but who cares!!
Soph
June 7th, 2009
1:48 pm
Mannnnnnnn, Franceour. No comment.
RHR
June 7th, 2009
1:48 pm
Another day, another embarrassing display from Frenchy. Ho hum.
Marshall
June 7th, 2009
1:48 pm
Carroll – you mentioned Kotchman going on the DL – who is taking his roster spot?
the hope of the braves nation rests in your hands mr hanson
June 7th, 2009
1:49 pm
good cut!
Chop Chop
June 7th, 2009
1:49 pm
Mike Cameron broke the scoreless streak, RHR.
Gloomy Gus
June 7th, 2009
1:49 pm
Diaz and Francoeur fail.
Negative Nancy
June 7th, 2009
1:49 pm
it’s nice to see a run finally. why is francoeur batting fifth? or in the lineup at all?
David..(Athens, AL)
June 7th, 2009
1:50 pm
not good Diaz and Frency … believe GA would have put the ball in play
JasonInFL
June 7th, 2009
1:50 pm
Worst cleanup hitter put in a lineup this year?
Efrim
June 7th, 2009
1:50 pm
We still need two outfielders….
Steve from OH, yeah man. White did strike out 12 yesterday, but it was in the Super regionals against East Carolina. I read that question, I was going to ask if that was you. I dunno, I saw a question in the chat that asked if the pitcher the Braves were going to get at #7 was going to be a better prospect than Jeff Locke, and Law said probably. So ya figure whoever we get has at least #2 starter upside.
joe
June 7th, 2009
1:50 pm
our 4-8 is pathetic
RHR
June 7th, 2009
1:50 pm
OH my bad, Chop Chop.
chuckw/deadjournalist
June 7th, 2009
1:51 pm
francoeur should take the wade boggs approach – take the first pitch regardless of situation. it certainly wouldn’t make things any worse.
DAM
June 7th, 2009
1:51 pm
and francoeur manages to swing at 2 balls rather than taking them for a 3-1 count.
why is he 5th today? any guesses? i’m out of ‘em.
Shane
June 7th, 2009
1:51 pm
There is your run Tommy. Hold Em!
Johnny Quest
June 7th, 2009
1:51 pm
Another man left on 3rd. Deja Vue all over again.
Shamus Thacker
June 7th, 2009
1:51 pm
Hate to make a negative comment during a win, but why doesn’t SOMEBODY tell Frenchy to TAKE the first pitch, just once, just to humor ME, if for no other reason?
TnBrian
June 7th, 2009
1:51 pm
Is it Frenchy’s fault, is it TP’s fault, is it Bobby’s fault, is it our fault? Who’s fault is it that Frenchy’s is one of the worst hitters in MLB right now?
JasonInFL
June 7th, 2009
1:51 pm
Jeff Francoeur sucks. I am sorry. I have been patient and hopeful that he would snap out of it. Facts are facts…he just isn’t very good. You HAVE to get the run in from 3rd when you are as run starved as this team!!!
groundfog
June 7th, 2009
1:52 pm
Francoer swung at a pitch that probably was going in the dirt-they don’t even have to throw it near the plate for him to swing at it.
beach dawg
June 7th, 2009
1:52 pm
MR FLY — well done, very well done.
same ol' same ol'
June 7th, 2009
1:52 pm
Matty Diaz needs to be on the same train outta town as Frenchie and KJ. A big hit from time to time followed by failure to make contact with overswinging.
bravos2249
June 7th, 2009
1:52 pm
JJ and Javy have got to be saying…WTF man.
Hadji
June 7th, 2009
1:52 pm
Another man left on 3rd. Deja Vue all over again. -Johnny Quest
I hear you.
Carroll Rogers
June 7th, 2009
1:52 pm
that was 95 mph cheese to get fielder
Nate from NCState
June 7th, 2009
1:53 pm
getcha some of that
Soph
June 7th, 2009
1:53 pm
Nice job, Tommy H. Bye bye Princey.
DirtyYuni
June 7th, 2009
1:53 pm
Hanson looks so at ease out there. So nice to see.
Mixxo
June 7th, 2009
1:53 pm
Nice Tommy! Nice life on that fastball.
Mixxo
June 7th, 2009
1:54 pm
Where was THAT???
DirtyYuni
June 7th, 2009
1:54 pm
Where’d that 96 mph heat on the corner miss?
RHR
June 7th, 2009
1:54 pm
GASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!
TnBrian
June 7th, 2009
1:54 pm
And a WHIF!
Carroll Rogers
June 7th, 2009
1:54 pm
that’s 96, twice, to get Cameron (shoulda had him the pitch before, i thought)
Mitchell
June 7th, 2009
1:54 pm
go do some more roids Mike.
DirtyYuni
June 7th, 2009
1:55 pm
YOWZA. This kid’s good. Locating so well, 95 right where he wants and then that hook right behind it. Nasty.
BravesFanChris24
June 7th, 2009
1:55 pm
Struck out the side!
Tom Glavine
June 7th, 2009
1:55 pm
It could’ve me, it could’ve been meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Soph
June 7th, 2009
1:55 pm
Wow, do you hear our fans? How exciting is it at the Ted?
Steve from OH
June 7th, 2009
1:55 pm
Can I just take a moment to thank Frank Wren for not trading this guy?
Carroll Rogers
June 7th, 2009
1:55 pm
just got the wooo from the crowd on the curveball. i hadn’t heard that since his outings in spring training. and a hearty cheer after his second perfect inning, in which he struck out the side.
N8
June 7th, 2009
1:55 pm
And there’s the K. I’m telling you. This is like opening day all over again.
I can honestly say, that had Glavine been pitching today, I would still have tuned in and been curious how he would have done. But I’ve been WAITING for this game since they announced it. As I’m sure the rest of you have.
Succeed or not, today is the new beginning for us fans.
Strikes out the side. This is frickin’ awesome!!
Somewhere, Frank Wren is smiling too.
BravesFanChris24
June 7th, 2009
1:55 pm
Boog called him Big Red ~_~
the hope of the braves nation rests in your hands mr hanson
June 7th, 2009
1:55 pm
jesus christ what a curve on that 0-1 count! struck out the side?
we should have kept glavine huh?
Jerry Holcombe
June 7th, 2009
1:56 pm
Well, a bloop single and a cheap triple later and the Braves have their first run in about 5 years. On the down side, only the Braves can score just one run in that situation. Francoeur hitting fifth is a travesty. Hanson is looking great. He’s gonna have to be.
PStone
June 7th, 2009
1:56 pm
Hanson is dealing!
Salamander
June 7th, 2009
1:56 pm
damn.
Mitchell
June 7th, 2009
1:56 pm
Wow, Braves fans actually paying attention.
I got free tickets to this game but didn’t have anyone to go with. Sniff.
Nate from NCState
June 7th, 2009
1:56 pm
Hey Carroll who his taking Kotchman’s place on the roster?
kirkinga
June 7th, 2009
1:56 pm
Have to like that folks. I don’t recall any other recent call up striking out the side.
N Nine
June 7th, 2009
1:56 pm
most exciting moment all season WELCOME TO BIGGS TOMMY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Carroll Rogers
June 7th, 2009
1:56 pm
only five balls in the first 21 pitches for hanson
Epinephrine
June 7th, 2009
1:56 pm
Unreal.
Paul Lentz
June 7th, 2009
1:56 pm
Franceour batting 5th? Unreal. But not surprising. Franceour’s fan club must be blackmailing Braves management with some compromising pictures or something, because I just do not understand the “logic” in not only playing Franceour, but batting him 5th.
Nice to see that Mike Cameron is playing for the Braves today. He breaks back on Escobar’s ball that drops in for a hit. Then he misplays Chipper’s single into a triple.
Meanwhile, no surprise to see Franceour swing at crap all 3 pitches he swings at. Pathetic but not surprising.
DirtyYuni
June 7th, 2009
1:56 pm
Steve…I’m with you man. Glad we didn’t trade this guy.
I’m actually sitting here giddy to watch him pitch. And Carroll’s right…crowd with a big “wooo” on that hook.
RHR
June 7th, 2009
1:57 pm
why is he 5th today? any guesses?
Like it really matters where he’s hitting?
But Jeff says he doesn’t get anything to hit because he’s so low in the lineup (no really, he said that) so here’s his chance! I mean, him swinging at pitches in the dirt is all due to where he hits in the lineup, right? I swear if I were an opposing pitcher, just for laughs, I would freaking ROLL the first pitch to Francoeur up to the plate just to see if he’d hack at it.
LuisG
June 7th, 2009
1:57 pm
3Ks in an inning… Nice!
PWHjort
June 7th, 2009
1:57 pm
Wham Bam thank you Ma’am. Strike out the side. Hanson is the most entertaining pitcher on our staff.
BravesFanChris24
June 7th, 2009
1:57 pm
A new spotlight with McCann! ~_~
Shamus Thacker
June 7th, 2009
1:57 pm
GO TOMMY!!!
Wheelz007
June 7th, 2009
1:57 pm
WOW!!!
bravos2249
June 7th, 2009
1:57 pm
MCFANN
They are premiering a Spotlight B-MAC!!
joe
June 7th, 2009
1:57 pm
Hehe, you should hear Don Sutton getting excited over on radio!
CW
June 7th, 2009
1:58 pm
Yikes! Hanson’s FB looks great, but those were some wicked curves he snapped off against Gamel.
Soph
June 7th, 2009
1:58 pm
Marteeeeeeeeeeeeeen!
Daybed Wagmoe
June 7th, 2009
1:58 pm
Striking out the side in the 2nd…WOOOOOOOOT!!!!! Mr. Hanson is here folks!
RHR
June 7th, 2009
1:58 pm
Anyone still on Team Glavine?
Maybe it’s too early, I’ll ask again after he gets thru the lineup one time.
N8
June 7th, 2009
1:59 pm
This kid is gonna be a shot in the arm for the entire team. The crowd is buzzing at the game. The guys seem to be just as pumped as the fans.
Think Kerry Wood type of impact the rest of the season. Dontrelle Willis perhaps? Our very own “Fernando Mania”.
willie mays hayes
June 7th, 2009
1:59 pm
Jerry Holcombe… so your saying no other teams have failed to drive in a run w/a runner on third and one out?… And if you can name me the last time the Braves had a “bloop single and cheap triple” like that then i’d be impressed… haven’t had that many good breaks lately
bravos2249
June 7th, 2009
1:59 pm
BravesFanChris24
When does it come on again?
PI Braves
June 7th, 2009
1:59 pm
Caroll, N8 – Didn’t mean it that way. It’s just that a lot is at stake in Hanson’s start today. And any letdown in his start today would surely put a damper on everybody.
I’m glad that so far Hanson is doing good!! yeah!
Soph
June 7th, 2009
1:59 pm
Oh Kelly…Kelly, Kelly, Kelly. Ugh.
Paul Lentz
June 7th, 2009
1:59 pm
Hanson is throwing some serious smoke. Nice to see him strike out the side.
And to think that many of you would rather see Tom Glavine pitch today. Unreal, lol.
I dont understand why Franceour isnt batting 8th. Prado is a much better hitter than Franceour. Ross has power. And Kelly Johnson hits better against left handers anyway. Franceour, on the other hand, pretty much SUCKS against everyone.
joe
June 7th, 2009
1:59 pm
why not have kj bunt there
PI Braves
June 7th, 2009
2:00 pm
Wondering if Glavine is watching the game today. hehehe.
BravesFanChris24
June 7th, 2009
2:00 pm
Let’s go Ross!
RHR
June 7th, 2009
2:00 pm
2249, it premieres Saturday night after the game.
Jeff321
June 7th, 2009
2:01 pm
Hanson looks good so far.
Nice hustle by Chipper taking 3rd base on that “triple” as well.
BravesFanChris24
June 7th, 2009
2:01 pm
Tommy Hanson to hit!
Frank from KS
June 7th, 2009
2:01 pm
Nate from NCState
Hanson took Kotchman’s spot on the roster.
the hope of the braves nation rests in your hands mr hanson
June 7th, 2009
2:02 pm
Mitchell,
i would have gone with you. = – )
bravos2249
June 7th, 2009
2:02 pm
RHR
Thanks…All I saw was McCann and Spotlight and I was like FINALLY….I mean he’s more of the hometown favorite than Jeff now.
Loop
June 7th, 2009
2:02 pm
KJ is starting to look like a left-handed version of JFK
Nate from NCState
June 7th, 2009
2:02 pm
Thanks Frank.
Soph
June 7th, 2009
2:03 pm
Can you imagine if Hanson got a hit…
N8
June 7th, 2009
2:03 pm
PI Braves, I guess I can agree with that. A poor outing today, might have had that affect.
joe
June 7th, 2009
2:03 pm
hanson puts up a better AB than francouer
DirtyYuni
June 7th, 2009
2:03 pm
Hanson’s got better plate discipline than 90 percent of the order.
choozer
June 7th, 2009
2:04 pm
Francouer should be in Ross’ spot in the lineup and Ross should be in Francouer’s.
Paul Lentz
June 7th, 2009
2:04 pm
In this at-bat, Tommy Hanson will see more pitches than Franceour sees all day, lol.
Daybed Wagmoe
June 7th, 2009
2:04 pm
Is Manny Parra going to throw a quality start today?
PWHjort
June 7th, 2009
2:04 pm
Poll: Is Hanson our best pitcher?
joe
June 7th, 2009
2:04 pm
back to the strike out machine!
Loop
June 7th, 2009
2:04 pm
THK has more patience than our #5 hitter
Tommy Handsome
June 7th, 2009
2:07 pm
Watch this guys!!
Frank from KS
June 7th, 2009
2:07 pm
chooser
Frenchy shouldn’t have a spot in the lineup, period.
J Rilly
June 7th, 2009
2:08 pm
Strike throwing machine.
Johnny Quest
June 7th, 2009
2:08 pm
Glavine is piching in the fan batting cage under the center field seats!
Paul Lentz
June 7th, 2009
2:08 pm
It’s only been 2 innings, but this kid BELONGS. Not cutting Tom Glavine would have been like not trading Dale Murphy back in 1990. Just like David Justice needed a position to play, Tommy Hanson needed a spot in the rotation.
Meanwhile, this kids not only throws hard, but he hits the corners. Plus when these Brewers players foul the pitch, it’s to the opposite field. I havent see one Brewer pull the ball foul.
BravesFanChris24
June 7th, 2009
2:09 pm
Looks like Hanson is facing the minimum through 3.
BravesFanChris24
June 7th, 2009
2:10 pm
And he does!
joe
June 7th, 2009
2:10 pm
not a bad turn through the order fellas, not bad at all. 0 hits, 0 walks, 4K
Doc Holiday
June 7th, 2009
2:11 pm
A strike throwing machine, plain and simple.
chuckw/deadjournalist
June 7th, 2009
2:11 pm
tom-my han-son (clap, clap, clap-clap-clap)
tom-my han-son (clap, clap, clap-clap-clap)
tom-my han-son (clap, clap, clap-clap-clap)
PI Braves
June 7th, 2009
2:12 pm
Only 1 out of the 10 pitches in the 3rd inning was under 90mph!!!!!!
jOEBRAVE
June 7th, 2009
2:12 pm
Enter your comments here
Frank from KS
June 7th, 2009
2:13 pm
Wonder how Chip Caray feels about having to be on the TBS game between the Rangers/R. Sox and having to miss Hanson’s debut.
Paul Lentz
June 7th, 2009
2:13 pm
3 innings pitched. 4 strikeouts, 0 walks, 0 hits, 31 pitches with 24 of them strikes. Now, when was the last time that Tom Glavine had 3 innings like that? If Tom Glavine was pitching today, he would have thrown a lot more than 31 pitches. And have a lot more than 7 balls versus 24 strikes thrown.
Let’s see what kind of adjustments the Brewers hitters make during his second time around the batting order. In turn, I want to see how Hanson deals with those adjustments.
N8
June 7th, 2009
2:13 pm
Paul Lentz
Totally agree with you. I’m sure most do. I suppose it still could have been handled better. But that’s really not my problem.
Hanson will fail on occasion. NOBODY is that good all the time. He’ll have to adjust, and he’ll have to pitch with pain, and when he’s not feeling well, etc…
But you’re right. It was time. It is time. My guess is that they would have just done it out of ST, but the Super 2 status obviously came into play.
That’s not to downplay what those 11 starts at AAA did for him as well.
IMO, as much as I wanted him up sooner, Wren and Co. handled it PERFECTLY. As for how Glavine was treated? I’ve moved on.
But it’s clear calling up Hanson was the right call.
RHR
June 7th, 2009
2:13 pm
Aw they’re making Medlen wear the My Little Pony backpack.
Jerry Holcombe
June 7th, 2009
2:13 pm
Willie Mays Hayes: Are you telling me that Yunel’s single was a clean hit and not a Texas leaguer? And are you telling me that Chipper’s triple was legit? If so my friend, your vision is obscured. Cameron should have either laid out for that or played it on a hop for a single. Either way, you expect better from a centerfielder that has his reputation.
DirtyYuni
June 7th, 2009
2:15 pm
The My Little Pony backpack actually doesn’t look that weird on Medlen.
Nova Scotia Steve
June 7th, 2009
2:15 pm
At least we got a freaking run…man offense has been aweful
Mitchell
June 7th, 2009
2:15 pm
We officially now have the pitching staff to win three World Series.
If only we had the Washington Nationals line-up. We could probably win with the Washington Redskins at the plate.
Now that’s just silly.
"Chef" Tim Dix
June 7th, 2009
2:16 pm
Please dear God pitch this machine again on Thursday!
N Nine
June 7th, 2009
2:16 pm
Hudson,Lowe,JJ,Hanson,Vazquez
It’s okay Chip, you can call them murder’s row
Carroll Rogers
June 7th, 2009
2:16 pm
through a perfect three innings, Hanson has thrown 31 pitches, 24 for strikes (and another that wasn’t called). so yeah, seven balls to nine hitters ain’t bad
"Chef" Tim Dix
June 7th, 2009
2:17 pm
Then again on Sunday!
Paul Lentz
June 7th, 2009
2:17 pm
Looks like Hanson is going to have to continue pitching his ass off today because it looks like that 1 run may be our only run today.
jOEBRAVE
June 7th, 2009
2:17 pm
I itnessed Bob Horner get is ass buried on the bench way back when, and Bob was a damn good hitter, Francouer the Failure, gets three days, and he is still a Miserable PUke!!!
BJones
June 7th, 2009
2:17 pm
Chipper Jones….
BravesFanChris24
June 7th, 2009
2:17 pm
Chipper with the HR!
RHR
June 7th, 2009
2:17 pm
MAMA THERE GOES THAT MAN!
Mixxo
June 7th, 2009
2:17 pm
Attaway Hoss!
chuckw/deadjournalist
June 7th, 2009
2:17 pm
hard part of the cycle for chip
joe
June 7th, 2009
2:17 pm
chippuh…thats nice to see
winterville
June 7th, 2009
2:17 pm
Atta boy Chip.
Wheelz007
June 7th, 2009
2:18 pm
CHIPPER!!!
N Nine
June 7th, 2009
2:18 pm
Chipper going for the cycle!!!!
HR, TripleSingle, doubleMixxo
June 7th, 2009
2:18 pm
Halfway to the cycle!
Soph
June 7th, 2009
2:18 pm
Way to go Chipper!
The Truth
June 7th, 2009
2:18 pm
How can this offense be this bad? It’s Manny Parra. He had an ERA close to seven before this start. It’s insane.
Okay, there is a Chipper homer. Maybe he isn’t done.
choozer
June 7th, 2009
2:19 pm
Chipper single-handedly showing Hanson the run support he deserves. The rest of these guys should be ashamed (not counting Esco).
brewdawg
June 7th, 2009
2:19 pm
Ugh, tv just opened up for me. Missed everything but the strike out to end the top half of the third. Seems Hanson is doing ok huh? Frank “Wren at all costs” and the rest of the front office should have had him up from the beginning. Especially if he meant “Every game counts now” like he said when he released Glavine. I’m assuming he meant ” Every game counts now THAT THE SUPER-2 PERIOD HAS PASSED”
jOEBRAVE
June 7th, 2009
2:19 pm
Yup Hoss is pee’d off about something!!!
DiamondbackMac
June 7th, 2009
2:19 pm
Chipper got the two hard ones out of the way now he only needs the single and double.
Daybed Wagmoe
June 7th, 2009
2:19 pm
CHIPPER JONES!!!
PI Braves
June 7th, 2009
2:20 pm
Mr. Jones is trying very hard to give Mr. Hanson a nice welcome to the Majors..
Doc Holiday
June 7th, 2009
2:20 pm
Chipper protecting the kid………..I guess he knows the kid doesnt deserve to lose.
Jerry Holcombe
June 7th, 2009
2:20 pm
We should put Hanson out to stud and raise a whole team of Big Reds.
choozer
June 7th, 2009
2:20 pm
I’ve missed the series. Does McLouth have a hit yet as a Brave?
RHR
June 7th, 2009
2:20 pm
I’m guessing Chipper’s toe is feeling pretty good.
jOEBRAVE
June 7th, 2009
2:21 pm
Donk, must’ve sadi, Hey Chip, you need to plate some runs today, the Homeboy upstairs is on a rampage, so no Golf,and No sitting today okay….
Chip to Donk, Yeah yeah skip whatever….
N Nine
June 7th, 2009
2:21 pm
Anyone miss JoJo??
Braveone
June 7th, 2009
2:21 pm
Chipper!!!!
Soph
June 7th, 2009
2:22 pm
Is it just me or does the FSN broadcast keep freezing up?
Paul Lentz
June 7th, 2009
2:22 pm
Then again, looks like Chipper is going to be a one man offensive wrecking crew. I was going to pick Chipper for my fantasy team today, however because he came out early last night, and because it is a day game after a night game, I didnt figure on Bobby putting him out there. It sucks having to pick your team by midnight the day of the game.
A day like today, when the Braves hitters are struggling, Chipper Jones is carrying the team today. If Franceour was the real deal, he would have games like today more often. However, he simply isnt capable of carrying the Braves, nor is he even a decent Major League hitter.
I’m still baffled that he is batting 5th today.
DirtyYuni
June 7th, 2009
2:22 pm
“We should put Hanson out to stud and raise a whole team of Big Reds.”
Not a bad idea. Kid’s now throwing 97 on the corners.
chuckw/deadjournalist
June 7th, 2009
2:22 pm
aflac – rudy seanez?
choozer
June 7th, 2009
2:22 pm
Also, for those who’ve been scouting Hanson, when he does allow runs, is there a pattern? Does he allow them early, before getting on track, or late, when he starts to tire and they’ve seen his stuff? I know he hasn’t allowed much to begin with, but was wondering.
Bravetiger
June 7th, 2009
2:22 pm
You know the one thing that should make Hanson and Medlen even more comfortable is the fact that when they got called up from AAA, they could still live in the place they’ve been staying at all year since AAA is in Gwinnett as opposed to the past when they’d have to travel from Richmond and stay in a hotel.
BravesFanChris24
June 7th, 2009
2:23 pm
Error on Escobar.
jOEBRAVE
June 7th, 2009
2:23 pm
Take a little off Tommy that 97 mph heater is getting a little straight….
BJones
June 7th, 2009
2:23 pm
Another for Escobar…….
Mitchell
June 7th, 2009
2:23 pm
The Truth, if that is your real name, that’s what I can’t stand about the whole tip-your-cap-to-the-guy thing.
I mean, are these pitchers Gods? Are they indestructable forces of nature? Not that I’m aware of.
They’re like, “and remember, they got Trevor Hoffman warming up in the bullpen.”
So the F what? He’s 90. Just get some damn hits for the love of god…
YUNEL!!!!!!!!!!!
DUMBASS
joe
June 7th, 2009
2:23 pm
thanks esky, you schmuck
DirtyYuni
June 7th, 2009
2:23 pm
E6 – scorer’s generous.
Jeff321
June 7th, 2009
2:23 pm
Watch out Chipper! Escobar is hot on your tail in the errors category!
RHR
June 7th, 2009
2:23 pm
Ah I knew he was charging too hard. Damn Yunel for messing up the no no.
Boo
June 7th, 2009
2:23 pm
Escobar’’s defense…again.
Nova Scotia Steve
June 7th, 2009
2:23 pm
Good Question…Does McLouth have a hit yet?
LuisG
June 7th, 2009
2:24 pm
There goes the perfect game…
BravesFanChris24
June 7th, 2009
2:24 pm
There goes the perfect game
DirtyYuni
June 7th, 2009
2:24 pm
Whoops. Hanson knew that was gone.
joe
June 7th, 2009
2:24 pm
oops hanson….esky you shmuck
"Chef" Tim Dix
June 7th, 2009
2:24 pm
E on esco stings now.
groundfog
June 7th, 2009
2:24 pm
Escobar is a poor defensive shortstop. Geez we always pay for our mistakes 2 run shot.
Frank from KS
June 7th, 2009
2:24 pm
Mr. Lentz
I’m still baffled that he is still on the roster.
Lol
jOEBRAVE
June 7th, 2009
2:24 pm
Can’t push the ball that way Rook, gotta let your action work for ya!!!
RHR
June 7th, 2009
2:24 pm
McClouth got a couple hits last night.
Paul Lentz
June 7th, 2009
2:24 pm
For all the great games that Escobar makes, he continues to make errors like that. Hopefully Hanson will shrug it off.
Then again, Braun jacks one. It seems that every time Escobar makes a bonehead play, it leads to a big inning.
Jeff321
June 7th, 2009
2:25 pm
…and Escobar’s error comes home to roost…
brewdawg
June 7th, 2009
2:25 pm
This is my fault. Perfect through 3 then I start to watch. Sorry folks
Carroll Rogers
June 7th, 2009
2:25 pm
back down to earth on that one. two-run homer by braun on a fastball moving in over the plate
Mitchell
June 7th, 2009
2:25 pm
Is it me or does Ryan Braun use way too much eye-liner?
That guy’s a tool.
Seriously, Medlen needs to give Craig Counsel his my little pony backpack back.
The Brewers are a bunch of douches.
BravesFanChris24
June 7th, 2009
2:25 pm
Nova Scotia Steve
Yea, he got his first hit as a Brave yesterday and also stole a base.
Tom Glavine
June 7th, 2009
2:25 pm
I could have done that.
Boo
June 7th, 2009
2:25 pm
I blame Escobar.
Paul Lentz
June 7th, 2009
2:25 pm
There is no shame in giving up your first homer to Ryan Braun. Dude can flat out hit.
choozer
June 7th, 2009
2:26 pm
Yep, always pay for our mistakes. Do we make the opponent pay for theirs? NO.
LuisG
June 7th, 2009
2:26 pm
… and the no-no, and the shutout.
groundfog
June 7th, 2009
2:27 pm
Their hititng is so much better than our it aint even close imo
Jerry Holcombe
June 7th, 2009
2:27 pm
I guess hanson is human after all.
Soph
June 7th, 2009
2:27 pm
Man, Escobar’s errors have been pretty costly this series…
Doc Holiday
June 7th, 2009
2:27 pm
Yunel is not getting a fan out of me.
Get this guys some extra fielding practice………….it seems like he makes an E every time I watch a game.
DiamondbackMac
June 7th, 2009
2:27 pm
Messed up Hanson’s Waltz. 1, 2, 3, – 1, 2, 3 – 1, 2, 3
Daybed Wagmoe
June 7th, 2009
2:28 pm
Tough play for Escobar. Fast runner, tricky hop…easy to say that he should’ve had it, but it’s a harder play than it looks.
Aaron Gould Sheinin
June 7th, 2009
2:28 pm
Hey, Carroll, do you reckon Hanson is on a pitch count?
Mixxo
June 7th, 2009
2:28 pm
There is no shame in giving up your first homer to Ryan Braun. Dude can flat out hit. – Paul Lentz
Yup, guy’s a hitter. Scares me more than Fielder in that lineup.
Braves Fan 88
June 7th, 2009
2:28 pm
Shaky, very shaky.
The Truth
June 7th, 2009
2:28 pm
Escobar sucks.
Frank from KS
June 7th, 2009
2:28 pm
choozer
Winning teams make the opposition pay for mistakes.
Point made….(Lol).
Paul Lentz
June 7th, 2009
2:28 pm
One of those runs is an unearned run. Looks like Chipper is going to have to hit another homer.
Greg Maddux
June 7th, 2009
2:28 pm
Hey Glavine, shut your pie-hole
choozer
June 7th, 2009
2:29 pm
If he tosses a 1-hitter and gets a no-decision, somebody should be DFA.
N Nine
June 7th, 2009
2:29 pm
Chipper is having a great game! Good defense too! So glad it was only dizziness!
JEB
June 7th, 2009
2:30 pm
The last time the Braves lost an icon (during the season) was Dale Murphey.
David Justice came in to fill those shoes nicely and won the R.O.Y.
Now we have Hanson who has come in to fill an icons place (Tom Glavine)
Perhaps he will make as big a contribution!
Can he get the R.O.Y. ???
the hope of the braves nation rests in your hands mr hanson
June 7th, 2009
2:30 pm
wow. way to make a play for the kid there escobar… jesus. hanson probably gets better defense in gwinnett. we probably wont score another run for him now. he has made one just one mistake and the score should be 2-1. instead its tied because of yet another blunder by yunel…
jeff. you suck.
RHR
June 7th, 2009
2:30 pm
“Jeff Francoeur first pitch swinging” … the most often used play by play call in baseball.
Josh B.
June 7th, 2009
2:30 pm
Jerry Holcombe you better take it back, Tommy Hanson is not human. You just wait and see. Jerk
j/k of course
GT81
June 7th, 2009
2:30 pm
It was a tough play, but he has to at least catch that ball and attempt a throw. If he can’t catch that ball, tough as it was, it’s an error, seems to me. I don’t agree with the announcers that it was an error.
George Bush
June 7th, 2009
2:30 pm
frenchy cant hit because hes French!
TnBrian
June 7th, 2009
2:30 pm
Braun looks like Teixeira’s ugly little brither.
There you go Frenchy…way to make the other pitcher work on a hot afternoon while you help to quickly put Hanson back out there. What a…I better shutup.
groundfog
June 7th, 2009
2:31 pm
So much for that HR by Frenchy getting him on track.
N Nine
June 7th, 2009
2:31 pm
Why is Frenchy is a rush? He leads baseball in 1st pitch strikes and I tend to hear echos in my dreams ..Frenchy first pitch swinging…Frecnhy first pitch swinging
Frenchy can’t hold still, dude’s got major issues
kirkinga
June 7th, 2009
2:32 pm
I’m still an Escobar fan. He’s not perfect and I’m not going to overreact to each and every miscue. I wish we had more on the team like him.
TnBrian
June 7th, 2009
2:32 pm
8 pitches…EIGHT GOD DA** PITCHES?!
Mixxo
June 7th, 2009
2:32 pm
Whoa! That was quick.
CW
June 7th, 2009
2:33 pm
The stat quoted about Frenchy being 0-1 in the count 69% of the time (highest in the league) is really amazing. Seems to indicate that he is well beyond just “struggling”. Dude just can’t hit the damn ball.
Epinephrine
June 7th, 2009
2:34 pm
The sooner Jordan Schafer can get over his issues and replace Francouer, the better. He is an out making machine, and we simply can’t afford to continue this experiment much longer.
DirtyYuni
June 7th, 2009
2:34 pm
The Flailin’ Frenchman is not lookin’ so hot right now. Think Chipper was accurate with his assessment that Frenchy “ran into one.”
the hope of the braves nation rests in your hands mr hanson
June 7th, 2009
2:34 pm
this offense is pathetic. they dont take any pitches so the opposing pitchers can go very deep in games and get in a groove…. this team is garbage at the plate. there is no way in hell we can win a division with this offense let alone enough games for a .500 record. sorry hanson….
joe
June 7th, 2009
2:34 pm
The hell with Frenchy, I think he’s trying to get shipped outta here. Sooner rather than later FW, sooner rather than later
Greg
June 7th, 2009
2:34 pm
Here’s a question for the denizens: Which of our position players would be starting on any other Major League team with at least a .500 record? I say Chipper, McCann, McClouth, and Escobar. That’s it. That’s how bad this team really is. Is it any wonder that before this game we hadn’t scored in 23 innings, and that all of our offense in this game would be provided by Chipper?
JasonInFL
June 7th, 2009
2:35 pm
Have I said lately how awful I think Francoeur is? Seriously, put N8 out there…anyone other than Frenchy. 8 pitches that inning…Parra is in danger of losing his rotatoin spot because he is so awful…lucky for him he gets to face the Braves.
Daybed Wagmoe
June 7th, 2009
2:35 pm
This offense is atrocious.
Jerry Holcombe
June 7th, 2009
2:35 pm
Ain’t it amazing how the Braves are actually making Parra look “not that bad”? The guy has a road era over 9.00 I have bad feeling about this game the way our offense is letting him hang around.
JEB
June 7th, 2009
2:35 pm
Carrol
Who was called up to take Kotchman’s place?
I don’t believe it was reported.
LT200
June 7th, 2009
2:35 pm
I swear we can make any pitcher look like Cy Young. UGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Saw First Game
June 7th, 2009
2:36 pm
Made the drive to see my first game of the year at the Ted last night and came away with a simple conclusion:
The Braves suck in person as bad they do on TV.
RHR
June 7th, 2009
2:36 pm
I’m an Escobar fan too, most of his miscues are due to trying to do too much, which is refreshing compared to Jeff, who just sucks without even trying.
jOEBRAVE
June 7th, 2009
2:36 pm
Man Failcouer sucks, and blows at the same time, hey stupid look at a damn pitch or two okay what a meathead!!!!
RHR
June 7th, 2009
2:36 pm
Maybe “refreshing” wasn’t the right word but you get what I mean.
Greg
June 7th, 2009
2:36 pm
BTW, that home run in the Cubs game marked the end of Frenchy’s career. He’s up there trying to kill the ball again and expecting every pitch to be a fastball down the middle. I’m not sure that he’s good enough for Gwinnett anymore.
Yep here they are
June 7th, 2009
2:36 pm
I’m still an Escobar fan. He’s not perfect and I’m not going to overreact to each and every miscue
BEWARE THE SHEETWEARERS! They want to hurt that boy for messin up the 3-inning wonder Hanson’s game. Pay no attention to who threw the homerun pitch…blame the boy who is “dumb”!
jOEBRAVE
June 7th, 2009
2:37 pm
Boog, I ain spendin 50cents on this pathetic team until Failcouer is gone, let alone 50 bucks!!! surely you jest!!!!
Frank from KS
June 7th, 2009
2:37 pm
JEB
Hanson took Kotchman’s spot.
Doc Holiday
June 7th, 2009
2:39 pm
Braves will be in 4th place by the time june ends……………too hard a schedule for such a weak offense.
kirkinga
June 7th, 2009
2:39 pm
I got your point RHR
pryguy
June 7th, 2009
2:40 pm
It’s really sad with Frenchy, he just doesn’t have it man. I feel bad for the guy, he is probably a wreck at this point in his career when it looked bright as hell just a few years ago.
DirtyYuni
June 7th, 2009
2:40 pm
Wow, that’s ugly.
BravesFanChris24
June 7th, 2009
2:40 pm
the hope of the braves nation rests in your hands mr hanson
June 7th, 2009
2:40 pm
that sucks. hanson takes the loss….due to inept braves offense.
joe
June 7th, 2009
2:41 pm
UGH
groundfog
June 7th, 2009
2:41 pm
They should impose fines on Frenchy for swinging at the first pitch. Hejust looks awful when he makes an out on the first pitch. If your in a slump, you need to see more pitches imo.
JasonInFL
June 7th, 2009
2:41 pm
zone seems to be shrinking…Hanson was getting thos pitches in the first couple of innings…
Jeff321
June 7th, 2009
2:42 pm
Frenchy plays shallow to catch “would be” singles.. So, he gives up the doubles on a regular basis. Yeah, I know it was the pitcher. But, I’ve seen it happen way too many times.
pryguy
June 7th, 2009
2:42 pm
It’s pretty sad about Frenchy at this point. The guy is probably a wreck after these games the way he is performing and trying to right his own ship. What is most discouraging is how his future seemed so bright a couple years ago only to be brought back down to medocrity at best major league talent.
joe
June 7th, 2009
2:42 pm
Parra got lucky and ran into one. didnt even have his eyes open
Saw First Game
June 7th, 2009
2:42 pm
Just got back about an hour ago just in time to see TH pitch.
Let’s talk Esobar. I realize he is the darling of many here, but I wouldn’t care if the Braves traded him for some other piece. Who would play short? Beats me but I just don’t like Esco. He has loads of ability with a 50 cent head. The 50 CENT HEAD guys just never seem able to cross the hump to stardom. Just watch Escobar made fundamental mistakes time after time.
I watched him at the Ted last night get deked on the fly ball to right where Mclouth lost a hit when Esco was forced at second.
Esco will never be a winner.
Josh B.
June 7th, 2009
2:42 pm
He is done send him back to gwinnett
GT81
June 7th, 2009
2:42 pm
Hanson is for real!
I’m wondering if it’s too early to say Hanson should be one of the top 5 starters and move KK to number 5?
Frank from KS
June 7th, 2009
2:42 pm
pryguy
I first thought Frenchy would be a Andre Dawson-type (power, drive in runs, and a power arm like Dawson) but something has DEFINATELY went south somewhere along the line.
Paul Lentz
June 7th, 2009
2:43 pm
Dude has great stuff. He’s thrown 2 mistakes, and the Brewers made him pay for them. He’ll be fine.
pryguy
June 7th, 2009
2:43 pm
whoops, didn’t mean to write that twice. But I guess it’s only right to emphasize his situation at this point.
JEB
June 7th, 2009
2:43 pm
Frank from KS
Thanks!
N Nine
June 7th, 2009
2:43 pm
We’ve got to get to Parra. He’s look just awful this season, and as Joe said, he could be fighting for his job. We CANNOT have Frenchy swinging like a manic, he’s giving the depleted offense no chance.
Claw
June 7th, 2009
2:43 pm
Semi-Medlen Meltdown for Hanson…gotta have nerves there….it happened to David Price too his first time out…go get em next start, kid..
N8
June 7th, 2009
2:43 pm
So let me get this right. Suppan comes to Atlanta with a 5.09 ERA and Parra with a 6.75 ERA and we’ve scored (correct that….Chipper has produced) 2 runs off of them?
Get some damn runs guys! This is ridiculous.
Braves Fan 88
June 7th, 2009
2:44 pm
Tommy Glavine would have known how to pitch around an error.
JasonInFL
June 7th, 2009
2:45 pm
he is getting sqeezed now!!!!
lexbrave
June 7th, 2009
2:46 pm
well for about an hour i was excited to be a braves fan again..man that was a good hour.
bravos2249
June 7th, 2009
2:46 pm
Can’t blame that on Escobar….whoever decided from them to play behind Kendall should really be blamed….anybody anytime can steal a base….had it been anyone but the pitcher it’s different and it’s okay to play behind the runner.
bobby
June 7th, 2009
2:46 pm
parra hs been terrible this year and now he looks like johan
Jerry Holcombe
June 7th, 2009
2:47 pm
Now that is how a pitcher helps himself. And in reference to Francoeur, what can be said about his failings that hasn’t been said a million times before?
RHR
June 7th, 2009
2:47 pm
I like how when you click on The Hanson Era begins story link you go to a story about Georgia school vaccinations.
bobby
June 7th, 2009
2:47 pm
that’s how you play short ESCO
kirkinga
June 7th, 2009
2:47 pm
Saw First Game you must be a Mets or Phillies fan…lol! No Braves fan could have typed that nonsense!
BravesfaninWis
June 7th, 2009
2:48 pm
Tough luck for Hanson.. More errors that lead to runs for opposing teams.. Hanson has made one mistake and it could cost him a win in his debut.. Other then that HR by Braun, Hanson has looked great.. Looks like Hanson could get the same shaft here as he got in AAA, no run support.. If this kid gets 5-6 runs a game, he will win every time out..
N8
June 7th, 2009
2:48 pm
Stranding Chipper at 3rd (after the triple) with less than two outs, is gonna come back and haunt later today. That and sloppy defense.
But Hanson has to focus on all hitters, including the pitcher. But he’ll learn.
But we should have 3 runs right now, and they should have 2, if we knew how to play solid fundamental baseball. But we don’t.
Which is why we’re a .500 team. On the good days.
Rob (from SC)
June 7th, 2009
2:48 pm
Hanson looks great. We should all thank Mike Cameron or we would only have 1 run.
Carroll Rogers
June 7th, 2009
2:48 pm
JEB, kotchman’s place on the roster was taken by hanson.
Aaron, i’d imagine he’ll be treated like all the other starters up here as far as number of pitches goes. he’s had 11 starts in Gwinnett to get his arm in shape.
joe
June 7th, 2009
2:49 pm
Do these guys not understand what a good at bat is anymore? what the hell is going on here? They’re not having good at-bats at all
groundfog
June 7th, 2009
2:49 pm
Th Pitcher for the Brewer looks like an ACE.lol
TnBrian
June 7th, 2009
2:49 pm
Baseball is all about confidence…heck, life is. So, this Parra guy has all the confidence in the world facing this struggling offense.
The Truth
June 7th, 2009
2:49 pm
Wasn’t there some people on here who thought the Braves had a good offense before the season? I’m almost sure of it.
joe
June 7th, 2009
2:49 pm
Parra looks like he can’t believe he hasn’t given up 7 runs yet
Rob (from SC)
June 7th, 2009
2:50 pm
No Schafer again for Gwinnett. Does anybody know why?
Carroll Rogers
June 7th, 2009
2:50 pm
McLouth had one hit in the series coming into today. he would have had another if escobar hadn’t gotten deeked and thrown out at second for the fielder’s choice
pryguy
June 7th, 2009
2:50 pm
Jerry,
I think most of what has been said before has been bashing the dude on his lack of ability and talent. I am almost feeling sorry for a guy who really either lost alot or never really had it to begin with. Little different angle from most of the bloggers ripping his lack of production apart. The dude knows he is performing horribly, trying to fix it on the fly, and recapture his career before it plummets even further. I feel for the man, who seems like an overall good guy.
Edward
June 7th, 2009
2:51 pm
Welcome to ATL..were getting outdueled by a guy with a 2-5 record and a 9 plus era on the road is the LAW..
joe
June 7th, 2009
2:51 pm
In no way should parra be having a better day than hanson
Frank from KS
June 7th, 2009
2:52 pm
joe
He must rethink that he’s not facing a team like the Dodgers or the Mutts.
Lol
RHR
June 7th, 2009
2:52 pm
C’mon Chipper, a single or a double.
Rob (from SC)
June 7th, 2009
2:52 pm
DOB
Is Schafer hurt at Gwinnett.
bobby
June 7th, 2009
2:52 pm
they will walk chiper
Steve from OH
June 7th, 2009
2:52 pm
Looks like a big crowd today…
brew
June 7th, 2009
2:53 pm
they will walk jones
GT81
June 7th, 2009
2:53 pm
Braves have to come back here and win this game! Go Chipper!
Rob (from SC)
June 7th, 2009
2:53 pm
watch them walk Chipper
pryguy
June 7th, 2009
2:53 pm
Big spot here for Chipper, keep the hits coming Chip!
Efrim
June 7th, 2009
2:53 pm
Parra was once considered to be a pretty good prospect. He has the stuff.
Just sayin…..
LuisG
June 7th, 2009
2:53 pm
Come on Chipper!!!
N8
June 7th, 2009
2:53 pm
The contest on the radio talking about giving away money for “every” Braves HR this inning, kills me.
That’s like the Braves putting a clause in Kotchman’s contract saying if he wins the Cy Young, he gets a 10 million dollar bonus.
Frank from KS
June 7th, 2009
2:54 pm
Hey Rob
Carroll’s got the reins on the blog today.
Rob (from SC)
June 7th, 2009
2:54 pm
How did that go out
brew
June 7th, 2009
2:54 pm
sweeeeeeettttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
RHR
June 7th, 2009
2:54 pm
HAVE A DAY, CHIPPER!
Steve from OH
June 7th, 2009
2:54 pm
Chipper Jones is my hero.
N Nine
June 7th, 2009
2:54 pm
NO WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OMG CHIPPER
Nate from NCState
June 7th, 2009
2:54 pm
100% chance I’d walk Chipper if I am the Brew Crew.
DirtyYuni
June 7th, 2009
2:55 pm
CHPPAH!!!!!! Carrying the young ‘un.
GT81
June 7th, 2009
2:55 pm
Thanks Chip!!!!
BravesFanChris24
June 7th, 2009
2:55 pm
Chipper
Rob (from SC)
June 7th, 2009
2:55 pm
Chipper might be a WUSS, but the man can hit a baseball
groundfog
June 7th, 2009
2:55 pm
wow half swing homerun lol
joe
June 7th, 2009
2:55 pm
CHIPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPUH . One handed golf shot bomb
TnBrian
June 7th, 2009
2:55 pm
Chipper is a strong dude! How did that go out? HUH
BJones
June 7th, 2009
2:55 pm
Have a day Chipper…
Mixxo
June 7th, 2009
2:55 pm
Chipper’s a man!
groundfog
June 7th, 2009
2:55 pm
check the bat lol
N8
June 7th, 2009
2:55 pm
Well, I guess if I’m Casey Kotchman, I’d start counting my Cy Young bonus money, huh?
Chipper is simply amazing when he’s in the lineup. Key word is “when”. But dude can still rake with the best of them.
pryguy
June 7th, 2009
2:55 pm
What a hitter!
David O'Brien
June 7th, 2009
2:55 pm
Not a good day for the Chipper bashers, huh?
BravesFanChris24
June 7th, 2009
2:55 pm
He’s wishing he could have got a double ~_~
Boo
June 7th, 2009
2:55 pm
My television is frozen.
N Nine
June 7th, 2009
2:55 pm
Chipper says Tommy will Win!!!!!!!!!!!
Rob (from SC)
June 7th, 2009
2:55 pm
Sorry Carroll
Do you know if Schafer is hurt at Gwinnett
Paul Lentz
June 7th, 2009
2:55 pm
Lol. Chipper Jones is amazing. Dude swings with one hand, on a bum toe. And Jacks it out, AGAIN. Just saw the replay, he leaned over and one handed it over the left field seats.
Nate from NCState
June 7th, 2009
2:55 pm
Oh well.
Wheelz007
June 7th, 2009
2:55 pm
My Man Chipper!!!
bravos2249
June 7th, 2009
2:55 pm
Dam… Chipper ate his Wheaties this morning!
BJones
June 7th, 2009
2:55 pm
Matty Diaz….
BravesFanChris24
June 7th, 2009
2:56 pm
Diaz!
He’ll take the 3 Run HR tho ~_~
braves
June 7th, 2009
2:56 pm
we need to pick up this extra run. cmon frenchy.
Braveone
June 7th, 2009
2:56 pm
Chipper Chipper Chipper!!!!!!!!!
Soph
June 7th, 2009
2:56 pm
Omg, I can’t keep up. Homer, double…it’s been sooo long.
Efrim
June 7th, 2009
2:56 pm
So much for that loss of power from Chipper, eh?
N8
June 7th, 2009
2:56 pm
Don’t discount McLouth taking the walk with two outs to get this started.
Jerry Holcombe
June 7th, 2009
2:56 pm
That looked like a Wrigley Filed homer. How the hell did that go out?
Rob (from SC)
June 7th, 2009
2:56 pm
If Chipper could only play 150 games healthy.
Chipper Basher
June 7th, 2009
2:56 pm
Not a good day for the Chipper bashers, huh?
Injuries, hamstring, dizziness….DIZZINESS
Couch Tater
June 7th, 2009
2:56 pm
I can’t believe that HR.
RHR
June 7th, 2009
2:56 pm
Hey Carroll? Can you ask Chipper what he had for breakfast this morning?
groundfog
June 7th, 2009
2:56 pm
Amazing they pithc to Chipper lol all you have to do is walk him and the Braves don’t score.
JasonInFL
June 7th, 2009
2:56 pm
And I agree it was stupid to play behind the runner, but Tommy Gun has to simply dominate the other pitcher…period. So far, the only “surprise”.
joe
June 7th, 2009
2:56 pm
this is more like it. but we dont win when chip cant do it everyday
Rob (from SC)
June 7th, 2009
2:57 pm
Way to support Hanson Chipper. That is what a team leader should do. Francoeur should bat 9th.
DCBrave
June 7th, 2009
2:57 pm
Wow, how many coach would choose not to walk Chipper in that situation, but why should we care? No, we don’t.
the hope of the braves nation rests in your hands mr hanson
June 7th, 2009
2:57 pm
how did that ball go out? seriously… if i were to hit that ball with his swing i would be lucky to fly out to the pitcher. seriously….he hit 400 ft while bending over and hitting it with basically one hand…. that is utterly impressive! man that was great!
Nate from NCState
June 7th, 2009
2:57 pm
I hope Jeff gets a hit and starts an amazing run for the rest of his career in this next AB. I really do.
groundfog
June 7th, 2009
2:57 pm
omg Francoer another first pitch groundout.
Carroll Rogers
June 7th, 2009
2:57 pm
guess the dizzy spell suited chipper….have a day. and frankly from up here, that didn’t look like he got all of that ball. wow. a triple and two homers, five RBIs. it was the 39th multi-homer game of his career and first of the season…..the five RBIs matches his career-high which he’s done 16 times. and he just passed 1,400 RBIs for his career
Jerry Holcombe
June 7th, 2009
2:57 pm
Another first pitch out for Francoeur. Holy Jesus!!!
joe
June 7th, 2009
2:57 pm
francouer again on the first f-ing pitch.
braves
June 7th, 2009
2:57 pm
what an idiot. the pitcher is struggling !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! can you chabge approach frenchy, every one knows you swing at the first pitch.
Nate from NCState
June 7th, 2009
2:57 pm
AH that is so frustrating.
Doc Holiday
June 7th, 2009
2:58 pm
Hey Tommy……..you owe chipper at least a hooter girl for tonight!!!
God
June 7th, 2009
2:58 pm
Francoeur stinks to high heaven.
CW
June 7th, 2009
2:58 pm
FS HD just completely FROZE in the middle of Chipper’s at bat and I missed his second HR. Is this just Charter in Birmingham or did this happen to everyone watching the game in HD?
N8
June 7th, 2009
2:58 pm
Huh. Francan’t rolls over the top of one on the first pitch. Go figure.
Come on Bobby, get his ass out of the lineup. He’s flat out worthless at the plate. If we were an American league team, he’d be a better candidate for the DH than the pitcher.
Thank god for Chipper.
BT
June 7th, 2009
2:58 pm
Weren’t some people saying Chipper is a wuss, Chipper is faking being dizzy, Chipper wouldn’t play today? Wah, Wah.
DirtyYuni
June 7th, 2009
2:59 pm
And Frenchy grounds out to dull the enthusiasm. Dude’s just got nothing. He’s where big innings go to die.
RHR
June 7th, 2009
2:59 pm
Jeff Francoeur = http://www.imeem.com/acast77/music/s_ChxSbi/the-price-is-right-losing-horn/
bravos2249
June 7th, 2009
2:59 pm
Isn’t it just awesome that people come to the park to see the young phenom shine and they get the bonus of watching the old( sorry but you know what I mean) one shine too.
Prattvillenolzfan
June 7th, 2009
2:59 pm
Franceour is a worthless piece of crap………….
He swings at the first pitch ALL 3 TIMES…………
There is absolutley NO REASON he should be hitting 5th……..
COX you suck for continually playing him………
joe
June 7th, 2009
2:59 pm
funkouer should not bat at all. make him a long reliever!
Rob (from SC)
June 7th, 2009
2:59 pm
I honestly believe that Heyward at age 19, and no experience above Myrtle Beach would out produce Francoeur.
Daybed Wagmoe
June 7th, 2009
2:59 pm
i LOVE chipper jones
braves
June 7th, 2009
2:59 pm
hanson’s last inning??
N Nine (Send Frenchy down)
June 7th, 2009
2:59 pm
Yes it’s that time again for Frenchy. Gwinnett bound my friend…
kirkinga
June 7th, 2009
2:59 pm
Chipper doesn’t hit a 3-run homer if Escobar doesn’t extend the inning.
TexasBrave
June 7th, 2009
2:59 pm
How the hell did Chipper get that out. He was out over his front, open and not much of a swing. WOW!!!
Carroll Rogers
June 7th, 2009
3:00 pm
Rob (in SC) i’ve asked around about that. no word yet.
Interested Observer
June 7th, 2009
3:00 pm
That inning was a clear demonstration of the Braves new offense. A two-out rally started by a walk to McLouth, a ridiculous homerun by Chipper, and a rally ending weak groundout by Francouer.
Prattvillenolzfan
June 7th, 2009
3:00 pm
OK I feel much better now!!!!!!!!
I’ve never seen Chipper in the zone as much as he’s been in today.
Jerry Holcombe
June 7th, 2009
3:00 pm
They probably should test Chipper for roids after that homer.
Boo
June 7th, 2009
3:00 pm
FS HD just completely FROZE in the middle of Chipper’s at bat and I missed his second HR.
So it wasn’t just me!
bravefaninok
June 7th, 2009
3:00 pm
Chipper will not let Tommy Hanson lose today!
Doc Holiday
June 7th, 2009
3:00 pm
And the Golden boy strikes again…………amazin………..come on JF…………you look sooooooooo bad at the plate, poor guy.
PI Braves
June 7th, 2009
3:00 pm
JF… doing what he does best… Killing the excitement of every fans with his patented “first pitch swing for an out!”
groundfog
June 7th, 2009
3:00 pm
TP nd Cox should start shoulder some blame for Frenchy. They can tell him to take a pitch.
braves
June 7th, 2009
3:01 pm
give it right back to the crew.
Paul Lentz
June 7th, 2009
3:01 pm
If I knew that Bobby was going to play Chipper today, I would have started Chipper. However since he left the game early, plus with today being a day game after a night game, I just didnt think Bobby would start him. Instead I went with Ryan Zimmerman. So instead of 18 points so far from Chipper, I have a big fat zero from Zimmerman so far.
FloridaBrave
June 7th, 2009
3:01 pm
The Braves signed P Jon Huber from the independent Atlantic League.
http://lancasterbarnstormers.com/news.cfm?newsID=467
Rob (from SC)
June 7th, 2009
3:01 pm
Thanks Carroll
Let us know when they give you the information
Steve from OH
June 7th, 2009
3:01 pm
I’m not gonna bash Frenchy for swinging at the first pitch, because I was a first-pitch hacker too. But his suckitude is not off-limits. Something’s gotta give.
I think that Brandon Jones is hurting, however. Hasn’t played in quite a while.
LuisG
June 7th, 2009
3:01 pm
Oh, God, and I’m just following the game on Gameday. The Braves won’t be on SportsCenter tonight (I’m from the Dominican Republic and the spanish version of Baseball Tonight usually shows the Braves when they don’t do well), and I’m just missing this only because of TBS (this game should’ve been on TBS today).
I really thought they were going to walk Chipper. Twice this week he’s made the opposite team pay for not walking him (earlier against the Cubs). So I guess lots of walks will come for Chipper.
Go Hanson!
braves
June 7th, 2009
3:01 pm
fast ball has no good location. after the 3rd inning
Efrim
June 7th, 2009
3:02 pm
“I honestly believe that Heyward at age 19, and no experience above Myrtle Beach would out produce Francoeur.”
This is not a stretch.
Steve from OH
June 7th, 2009
3:02 pm
Carroll, could you ask about Brandon Jones? Hasn’t played in a while either. Thanks!
braves
June 7th, 2009
3:02 pm
get him out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Rob (from SC)
June 7th, 2009
3:02 pm
WTF
Soph
June 7th, 2009
3:02 pm
Ugh. Braun the Braves killer (at least today).
joe
June 7th, 2009
3:02 pm
THAT was a big-time mistake from Hanson
bravos2249
June 7th, 2009
3:02 pm
Well who do you blame that on?
DirtyYuni
June 7th, 2009
3:03 pm
And that’s how you can tell Hanson’s a rookie.
Johnny Quest
June 7th, 2009
3:03 pm
The Launching Pad is Back!
Saw First Game
June 7th, 2009
3:03 pm
kirkinga
and you are one of the Esco appologists who would have the Braves continue to lose with dummies like Esco.
Elvis Andrus is looking mighty good at Texas right now.
Paul Lentz
June 7th, 2009
3:03 pm
I guess today is the Ryan Braun/Chipper Jones show.
Rob (from SC)
June 7th, 2009
3:03 pm
Pitch was up
Ross should have called for another slider.
Mixxo
June 7th, 2009
3:03 pm
Little guy can HIT I tells ya!
Ryan Braun
June 7th, 2009
3:03 pm
Where is your Tommy Hanson now?
groundfog
June 7th, 2009
3:03 pm
wow Braun -so much for the fairy tale opening start by Hanson.
SOS
June 7th, 2009
3:03 pm
I fear that the JF homerun the other night has given him another 6 months of having his sorry #$$%&@ in the lineup.
Epinephrine
June 7th, 2009
3:03 pm
Schafer probably finally admitted his wrist hurt too much to be effective. Good for him. Hopefully when he’s healthy he can come in for Francoeur. Frenchy sounds like he’s a really great dude, and I feel bad for him. But he’s making it pretty clear he cannot compete at this level-at least with his current approach. At this point he is like the pitcher in a way-it’s awesome when the guy in front of him gets a hit with two outs, so you know you won’t waste an out the next inning.
On the other hand, despite that last walk, Hanson has looked great. I think he’s definitely pitching with some first game jitters-especially due to the variation in his velocity-but man, what a 5th starter.
Mr. Fly (sleuth reporter)
June 7th, 2009
3:03 pm
PART FIVE OF THE DAILY BUZZ
In this report from the Braves corporate headquarters, Mr. Trump chats with Mr. Schuerholz and Mr. McGuirk before bringing Mr. Wren and Cox back in. When everyone is seated, Mr. Trump starts the discussion.
DONALD: John, you called me to Atlanta today to help you sort out why the Braves are floundering. We’ve talked with Mr.’s Wren and Cox. We’ve heard their comments. You somehow managed to build a winning club during your tenure as GM but since you left the spot, the team and the franchise is heading the opposite direction. I’d say changes are in order.
JOHN: Yes Donald. Agreed.
DONALD: John, I have one question for you and Terry. What do you feel your role is in all this? Do you bear any responsibility since you hired Frank and Bobby was under your authority so long? Is Liberty funding this team enough to win?
JOHN: Well, that’s a fair set of questions, Don. I’ll just say, yes, I may have blown it with Frank. I thought he had what I had but maybe I was wrong. And Bobby was fine for most of my tenure. Just slipped the last four years or so. Can’t put my finger on it. Anyway, I need this club to run like a smooth machine without me. I’m writing books and stuff.
TERRY: Mr. Trump, it’s not about the money. Liberty couldn’t care less that the Braves win a pennant but they do understand how winning is directly tied to revenues for merchandising, TV times and financial success. They have given us as much money as most of the teams but we can’t seem to win games. We keep making the same mistakes over and over. As a businessman and an unbiased outsider, what do you suggest we do?
DONALD: Fire somebody. That’s the only way.
JOHN: How would you do that, Don?
DONALD: Well, I look at them real hard, then I do my chopping motion like this with my hand turned sideways and say, “you’re fired”. Easy.
JOHN: No, I mean… fire who? Bobby? Frank? When do we do that?
DONALD: John, it’s never easy but the sooner you do that, the quicker you can turn this thing around. Simple as that. Sad but true, hard but fair.
TERRY: Your call John. We have talent on the field but they hit in the wrong spots. As soon as they get on track, they’re yanked out of the game for some odd reason. Except for Frenchy. He stays no matter what. We alienate long-time players, we have gotten to the point where there is no fire in the team at all. It’s run like a country club.
DONALD: And don’t forget, all of this mismanagement is costing you a fortune in revenues and missed opportunities. Build a winning team and the fans will come back and spend. TV deals will increase. Merchandise sales will get back up. Fire someone or suffer the financial consequences.
JOHN: Donald, since you’ve had lots of practice, would you do the honors?
DONALD: Glad to. No problem. Chopping motion coming up.
JOHN: It’s settled then. I’ll go get Bobby and Frank and bring them back in. But before I do, who are you going to fire, Donald?
DONALD: I just need to ask each of them a few final questions and then I’ll make the decision.
JOHN: I’ll go bring them in.
John pulls his suspenders tight and moves slowly toward the door. He knows that when he returns with Bobby and Frank, someone is going to get the executive Tomahawk chop. Who will it be?
RHR
June 7th, 2009
3:04 pm
Gain a Chipper, Gain a Chipper?
groundfog, if Jeff doesn’t know by now to “take a pitch” without being told then FFS he needs to go home to mommy. I mean really.
joe
June 7th, 2009
3:04 pm
you cant throw that fat a fastball ahead in the count to a power hitter.
JasonInFL
June 7th, 2009
3:04 pm
ouch…
Rob (from SC)
June 7th, 2009
3:04 pm
Time for the Bullpen
Tommy Glavine
June 7th, 2009
3:04 pm
hahahahahahahahhahahahahahah!!!!!
Glavine Could Do This
June 7th, 2009
3:04 pm
So we let Glavine go for this?
Soph
June 7th, 2009
3:04 pm
Whoa. Almost took his head off there.
Bill
June 7th, 2009
3:04 pm
I am interested in the status of Jordan Schafer and Jason Heyward. Are they injured right now?
Epinephrine
June 7th, 2009
3:04 pm
Ouch.
Jeff321
June 7th, 2009
3:04 pm
Might be time to yank Hanson now.. Well, assuming Cox actually wants to win this game.
N8
June 7th, 2009
3:04 pm
“Wow, how many coach would choose not to walk Chipper in that situation, but why should we care?”
I don’t remember the manager, the team (Arizona maybe?), that walked Bonds intentionally with the bases loaded and a 2-run lead, and lived to tell about it.
Doesn’t happen very often, but if it’s gonna happen this year, it’s gonna be Chipper Jones at the plate, with this weak ass lineup around him.
I agree. Why in the world do you give Chipper a pitch to hit there? That’s twice in a week (walk off winner against the Cubs), that a team might loose because they refuse to make somebody else beat them.
Regardless of the results today, Hanson is for real. He’s gonna have to adjust the 2nd time through the order.
Amazing how SOME TEAMS know how to adjust against a young pitcher, huh? I’ve always wondered what that looked like.
RHR
June 7th, 2009
3:04 pm
6 innings are about his limit in Gwinnett? Right? Solid debut, kid. Bring on the bullpen, Bobby.
Jerry Holcombe
June 7th, 2009
3:04 pm
I know some of you aren’t big Matt Diaz fans, but just for the sake of argument, would any of you be in favor of having an outfield of Anderson, McLouth, and Diaz if it meant Francoeur not playing? I would.
SOS
June 7th, 2009
3:05 pm
We are toast today. Got 5 runs and we are done scoring.
Edward
June 7th, 2009
3:05 pm
Poor Kid…messing up his pysche….Ryan is going to Lidge’d Hanson
bravos2249
June 7th, 2009
3:05 pm
Saw First Game
No one cares about Andrus
cox
June 7th, 2009
3:05 pm
our line up can’t produce more than 7 rund today. they will have 1 more shot at parra and then a good bull pen. he can’t get people out with 2 strikes.
parra’s double
braun’s HR
fielder’s single
Glavine lover
June 7th, 2009
3:05 pm
We shoulda started Glavine, I mean come on 5 runs, he can’t even keep us in the game. We finally start to hit the ball, and he can’t keep up. For all of you people who wanted him, well, you got what you wanted. Glavine is a future hall of famer, he knows how to pitch, he would have made the adjustments so Brawn would not have hit 2 home runs. We will surely miss glavine. I’m sure glavine is saying right now I told you so.
RHR
June 7th, 2009
3:05 pm
Is anybody reading that daily buzz crap? Cliff notes?
Tommy Hanson's Debut
June 7th, 2009
3:05 pm
Wow! Hanson looks like Jo Jo! Jo Jo could throw 3 or 4 decent innings. Looks the same except he’s right handed and throws harder.
DCBrave
June 7th, 2009
3:05 pm
We really should thank Macha for giving chipper the chance first foremost.
Braves Fan 88
June 7th, 2009
3:05 pm
It’s not to late to let this kid get some more seasoning. Make amends with Tommy Glavine. There’s no way Glavine does worse than what we’ve seen today. Strikeouts are nice….knowing how to pitch enough to win 300 games is much better. Braves made a big mistake folks. Might as well been JoJo out there.
bravos2249
June 7th, 2009
3:06 pm
OMG
BravesFanChris24
June 7th, 2009
3:06 pm
There it goes
J.J.M.
June 7th, 2009
3:06 pm
ok take him out
Boo
June 7th, 2009
3:06 pm
Cue the Price is Right horn.
Tommy Hanson's Debut
June 7th, 2009
3:06 pm
Wow! Hanson is a keeper! LMAO
joe
June 7th, 2009
3:06 pm
HAHA. Wow. go take a shower hanson
monty
June 7th, 2009
3:06 pm
Welcome to the BIG LEAGUES MR. HANSON!!
Soph
June 7th, 2009
3:06 pm
Awww, man. This is getting ugly.
Tommy Handsome
June 7th, 2009
3:06 pm
Oh crap……….sorry folks.
CW
June 7th, 2009
3:06 pm
Nice first few innings for THanson, but it’s time to hit the showers after his 3rd HR of the game.
RHR
June 7th, 2009
3:06 pm
See if Bobby pulls him when I said to that maybe wouldn’t have happened.
SOS
June 7th, 2009
3:06 pm
What did I tell you. WE are done for the day.
Jeff321
June 7th, 2009
3:06 pm
Well, Cox didn’t listen as usual and now we’re losing.
Tommy Glavine
June 7th, 2009
3:06 pm
Wow he completely fell apart.
Johnny Quest
June 7th, 2009
3:06 pm
Put it on a batting tee, Bobby!
bravos2249
June 7th, 2009
3:06 pm
can we call something other than a FASTBALL!
DirtyYuni
June 7th, 2009
3:06 pm
Sh#$. Hanson’s gassed.
N8
June 7th, 2009
3:06 pm
Looks like Chipper will need to hit a couple more homers.
Prattvillenolzfan
June 7th, 2009
3:07 pm
Ok Cox, take him out now….but as I type this, I hear Joe say Bennett’s warming up…
WTF, if Bennett’s coming in, go ahead and keep Hanson in…..
Boo
June 7th, 2009
3:07 pm
Two run lead to two run deficit in record time!
Braves Paisan
June 7th, 2009
3:07 pm
Amazing, isn’t it, the difference between AAA and the Show. These hitters just don’t miss mistakes very often.
Paul Lentz
June 7th, 2009
3:07 pm
Saw First Game………Elvis Andrus is basically a good defensive player with no pop in his bat. 3 homers, 12 RBI’s.
Dean
June 7th, 2009
3:07 pm
In typical fashion, Bobby leaves the kid in there to what… work out of it?! C’mon!
Cuck-a-Too
June 7th, 2009
3:07 pm
WHe O WHEEE O WHEE O…this team sucks…
Epinephrine
June 7th, 2009
3:07 pm
Double ouch. Well that’s unfortunate. He’s definitely made some mistakes. Let’s try again in a week eh Tommy? But we really cannot afford a sweep here.
Johnny Quest
June 7th, 2009
3:08 pm
Good thing Fielder is in a one day slump.
Ian Curtis
June 7th, 2009
3:08 pm
Tommy needs to mix in more breaking pitches. It’s been mostly fastballs, and when he does throw a breaking pitch it’s almost a fastball on the next one. With a slider like his, it’s okay to throw two sliders in a row.
Tommy Hanson's Debut
June 7th, 2009
3:08 pm
Oh My! Nothing left for this guy to do at Triple A huh? Looks like there must be something left for him to do in Triple A because the big boys seem to be having no trouble with him.
Mixxo
June 7th, 2009
3:08 pm
The Milwaukee Brewers = what hitting looks like.
Soph
June 7th, 2009
3:08 pm
It’s his first major league game. Give him a break before ya’ll start talking about bringing Jo-Jo and Glavine back. This was to be expected, even phenoms have bad days.
Braves Fan 88
June 7th, 2009
3:08 pm
Paging Mr. Glavine! “Better chance to win” my behind! Well let’s add Hanson to the list…Chuck James, JoJo Reyes, Kyle Davies, Charlie Morton…
Jack
June 7th, 2009
3:08 pm
Frankly, Hansen isn’t showing much. Maybe we should have kept Glavine.
J.J.M.
June 7th, 2009
3:08 pm
wonderin if glavine is laughing
bravos2249
June 7th, 2009
3:08 pm
For anyone mentioning Andrus..he has more errors than Escobar
LuisG
June 7th, 2009
3:08 pm
That hurts!
RHR
June 7th, 2009
3:09 pm
Did you expect anything less, DOB? Of course not. It’s like they’ve been sitting by just waiting to run to their computers and say I told you so!
pryguy
June 7th, 2009
3:09 pm
Reason I hate reading the blog during games….read the 10-20 posts above this one. Idiotic uneducated fans
Braves Stink With Or Without Hanson
June 7th, 2009
3:10 pm
Hanson= More Braves Hype
bravos2249
June 7th, 2009
3:10 pm
This just went from a good show on the highlight reel (throwing a lot of strikes)….to them bashing Hanson for giving up the homers. ( throwing too many)
coach smith
June 7th, 2009
3:10 pm
Simple…He is throwing TOO MANY FASTBALLS to a power hitting-fastball hitting team
This team is just making it difficult to watch….Give up 1 or 2 runs and score NONE….Score 5 runs give up 7! good grief!
We need another bat! A right handed power hitter or it ain’t gonna happen this year…
We can’t seem to get out of our own way
Prattvillenolzfan
June 7th, 2009
3:10 pm
Hanson went 5 innings and only gave up 3 runs…
I think if you asked anyone knowlegable, we would have taken that from him.
Once again old dumbazz……….I mean Cox sends him out for the 6th inning.
I still am very impressed with Hanson. 6th inning notwithstanding, Hanson proved that Wren/Scheurholz made the right decision bringing Hanson up.
DirtyYuni
June 7th, 2009
3:11 pm
“Frankly, Hansen isn’t showing much. Maybe we should have kept Glavine.”
Hahahaha. Man, that’s hilarious.
Hanson’s making rookie mistakes. Gets a little tired and starts leaving pitches up. It happens. He’ll learn. He showed plenty in the first couple innings to indicate he’s going to be a stud.
The Curse Of The Glav
June 7th, 2009
3:11 pm
Has anyone noticed the Braves haven’t won a single game since Glavine was ungraciously released?
Rob in Mobile
June 7th, 2009
3:11 pm
People!! This is his first big league start. He’s just got the memo that major league hitters don’t miss mistake pitches (unless you’re Jeff Francoeur) like they do at AAA. He will adjust. Give him a break!
SOS
June 7th, 2009
3:11 pm
Hey RHR and DOB. It comes from prior experience. All the positivity in the world will not overcome an over the hill manager and inept coaching staff.
Jerry Holcombe
June 7th, 2009
3:11 pm
If there is a worse team in the majors than the Braves, I like to play them. The Giants were supposed to be worse and they swept us.
bravos2249
June 7th, 2009
3:11 pm
Paul Lentz
If Andrus is good defensively than so is Escobar. Look at the amount of errors for both.
Mixxo
June 7th, 2009
3:12 pm
pryguy
Oh really?
I said Hanson was going to get rocked ……yesterday. Good to see him start off good but wait……I was wrong ….right?
The highlight of my pathetic existence
June 7th, 2009
3:12 pm
Hanson is a bust!!! Shoulda kept Glavine!!! I told you so!!! I’ll come back after the game!! Unless the braves win!!
Paul Lentz
June 7th, 2009
3:12 pm
Even though Hanson gave up the 3 homers, at least he made it through 6 innings. Final stat line: 6 innings pitched, 7 runs (6 earned), 6 hits, 1 walk, 5 strikeouts. 61 strikes out of 91 pitches. Not great. But at least he got it out of the way. I’m sure that he’ll make some adjustments before his next start.
Kyle Davies, Chuck James, Jason Marquis, Charlie Morton, Jo-Jo Reyes, Anthony Lerew, Bruce Chen and Jose Capellan
June 7th, 2009
3:12 pm
What? A Braves top pitching prospect falling flat on his face? Who has ever heard of that?
groundfog
June 7th, 2009
3:12 pm
The season is slipping away fast.
Steve in NC
June 7th, 2009
3:12 pm
Brewers are definately a tough team to debut against. Seemed to lose some command after about 60 pitches. The first 60 pitches were pretty nasty. I think he’ll build on this. Cox left him in there after the Fielder single, I would’ve gone ahead and gotten him… but hey, it’s not my team.
Prattvillenolzfan
June 7th, 2009
3:12 pm
Hey DOB…
Who calls the pitches, COX/McDowell from the dugout,
or does the catcher……..
bravos2249
June 7th, 2009
3:12 pm
What more can Chipper do?
monty
June 7th, 2009
3:12 pm
Hanson obviously has electric stuff and may eventually make a great pitcher, however, Chris Medlen is more of a pitcher at this stage, more defined, knows better how to set batters up, and has much better control. Medlin has yet to be hit hard, his issues were nerves and uncharacteristic control problems(walks)in his first two starts. Tommy throws hard but leave it in the middle of the plate and Big Leaguers know what to do with it.
oldschool
June 7th, 2009
3:12 pm
We,ve been waiting for THIS GUY? He sucks looks like an uglier version of Millwood.I ‘d trade his sorry ars for a bat and call and BEG GLAVINE to please come back
N8
June 7th, 2009
3:12 pm
“Amazing, isn’t it, the difference between AAA and the Show. These hitters just don’t miss mistakes very often.” Braves Paisan
Which pretty much sums up how talented our lineup is, doesn’t it?
Braves Fan 88
June 7th, 2009
3:13 pm
Now we get the excuses:
1. He’s young.
2. It’s his first game
blah, blah, blah. I tried to tell you fans that this prospect wasn’t different back in Spring Training. Well he got his butt beat…and beat bad as predicted. I hate it for the team that we threw away a Tommy Glavine for this.
bravos2249
June 7th, 2009
3:13 pm
Charlie Morton and Chuck James did awesome in their debut though.
Braves Stink With Or Without Hanson
June 7th, 2009
3:13 pm
pryguy
You are the uneducated fan.
The object of baseball is to score more runs than the opposition.
Hanson has given up 7.
Chipper is responsible for 5.
The offense stinks. If not for Chipper, the Braves would be working on their third shutout in a row.
Hanson does not look effective. End of story.
pryguy should change his name to prayguy because that’s all you’re depending on for this team to be successful. Prayer!
DCBrave
June 7th, 2009
3:13 pm
reminded me of a denizen’s screen name:
Chuck James before 6th inning.
that killer 6th.
BravesFanChris24
June 7th, 2009
3:13 pm
Fickleness is running rampant.
It’s been an ouch here, but it’s not time to throw in the towel on Hanson or question calling him up.
JEB
June 7th, 2009
3:13 pm
Hanson has got the stuff!!
He just is making some bad pitches at the wrong times.
He will learn this and know what NOT to do – that is part of the process also.
By the time he reaches his 3rd start (mark it down!) – from then on – watch out! He will be a great one! GUARANTEED!!!
joe
June 7th, 2009
3:13 pm
I’m glad Hanson got roughed up first time out, honestly. I think he’s gifted enough to make immediate adjustments his next start
coach smith
June 7th, 2009
3:14 pm
What is most frustrating over the past 4 games is that after that comeback in game 1 against the CUBS, with LOWE and JURJIENS pitching the next two, the Braves should have been able to build on that and get a little win streak going but NOOOOOOOOOOOOOo we have just spiked ourselves
Wayne in Utah
June 7th, 2009
3:14 pm
I am perplexed (maybe I shouldn’t be) of the idiocy of many of you supposed baseball/Braves fans. Your rookie phenom comes up, does OK for a while, then gets rocked. And he is now a right handed JoJo or it’s Bobby Cox fault for not having ESP and removing him before the 2 HR inning.
You are truly a disgusting excuse for a baseball fan.
Epinephrine
June 7th, 2009
3:14 pm
Big next two innings here.
kirkinga
June 7th, 2009
3:14 pm
Folks we’re only down by 2 with 1/3 of the game remaining. This game is still winnable and that is the most important thing..winning the game. Hanson’s performance is secondary.
Greg
June 7th, 2009
3:14 pm
Glavine Lover: I’m a big Glavine fan. But he was awful last year before the injury. You can’t get MLB hitters out with a 82 mph fastball and a 75 mph changeup. Not even Maddux could do it. Glavine would have been lit in the first inning. Hanson clearly was left in too long. That’s typical Bobby Cox managing. He leaves pitchers in way too long. I would much rather watch the future of the Braves (Hanson and Medlen) than Glavine throwing batting practice. Sure, he pitched well in single A. That’s because those kids don’t know how to gear down to face an 80 mph fastball. They haven’t seen an 80 mph fastball since high school.
DirtyYuni
June 7th, 2009
3:14 pm
Now that’s infuriating.
Kelly’s effing bunting? And he lays one down right at the pitcher? These at-bats are useless.
Dumbfound
June 7th, 2009
3:14 pm
The Brewers are show boating going around the bases ! Would be nice if the Braves would say someting to their whole bench when they circle the bases !!!!!!!!!!
monty
June 7th, 2009
3:15 pm
I’m sure Medlin is thinking I did better than that.
bravos2249
June 7th, 2009
3:16 pm
WTF?
Why do we keep sending Norton up there to PH with runners on?
pryguy
June 7th, 2009
3:16 pm
Prattville,
How long have you managed in the big leagues and been as successful? What does your resume look like for managing professional athletes over the years? Forward that on to me, I’d appreciate it. I’ll compare that to Cox. But you know more I’m sure.
Mixxo,
Congrats for predicting Hanson getting lit up. I’m sure everyone on here is impressed with your abilities, if you’d like to call it that. I’m referencing all the bloggers negativity toward this team whenever something wrong happens. It is annoying and petty. Your comments seem to be similar, keep up the good work blending in with all the others who post similarly.
Paul Lentz
June 7th, 2009
3:16 pm
bravos2249………I watch a lot of baseball (I subscribe to the MLB Extra Innings baseball package). I’ve seen the Rangers play a number of times. Elvis Andrus can field the position, for sure. However he is a rookie and is going to make some errors. However, I dont think that he’ll hit like Escobar can. The Rangers have him batting 9th for a reason.
I dont understand why Franceour is batting 5th while Ross is batting 8th.
Dean
June 7th, 2009
3:16 pm
This team does stink. There seems to be no vision as to what is actually achievable. McClouth does not make this team a playoff caliber team. Hanson’s growing pains won’t either. I just don’t get it.
Mixxo
June 7th, 2009
3:16 pm
I’m glad Hanson got roughed up first time out, honestly. I think he’s gifted enough to make immediate adjustments his next start – joe
Same here joe. I think he’ll be alright.
Steve from OH
June 7th, 2009
3:17 pm
Hanson does not look effective. End of story.
A bold statement after a mere 6 innings of career big-league work. Let’s ignore statistics, scouts, the General Manager, et al, and listen to what an idiot blogger has to say. I’d love to hear you justify that statement with any (and I mean any) reasoning outside of this one isolated start.
I would ask you to try and think with your brain, but that doesn’t appear to be your forte, does it?
monty
June 7th, 2009
3:17 pm
Greg
“You can’t get ML batters out with an 82 mph fastball”
you are right sir, you have to be able to hit 85 mph like Trevor Hoffman.
SOS
June 7th, 2009
3:17 pm
Bravos2249. The obvious answer to your question is that Cox is a freaking MORON!!
bravos2249
June 7th, 2009
3:17 pm
Wayne in Utah
To me personally it’s the fact that someone…whether it be Ross/McDowell/Cox…kept calling the fastball in a pitchers count when he kept it up and hittable.
kirkinga
June 7th, 2009
3:18 pm
Fickleness is running rampant.…you must be new…lol!
Ripped Again
June 7th, 2009
3:18 pm
Hanson really lived up to all the hype huh ,im sure Glavin is sitting at home laughing his ass off roght about now
BravesFanChris24
June 7th, 2009
3:18 pm
Norton takes the walk!
bravos2249
June 7th, 2009
3:18 pm
Greg
“You can’t get ML batters out with an 82 mph fastball”
you are right sir, you have to be able to hit 85 mph like Trevor Hoffman
How fast did Maddux throw? Not trying to be smart…I’m serious what did he top out at?
Rob (from SC)
June 7th, 2009
3:18 pm
Ryan Braun and Mike Cameron are good hitters. Braun is a great hitter. Hanson does need to throw more breaking balls. I think he overthrew the last 2 innings. Althought I am pissed, Hanson will be great.
chuckyo9
June 7th, 2009
3:18 pm
Wayne in Utah… I completely agree… I use to read the blog all the time when guys like Lew and company would comment regularly… but now you can’t go an inning without a demand for Cox to be fired or someone to be traded…I decided to read today for first time in a while b/c Hanson was pitching…how do you ppl not get sick of complaining
oldschool
June 7th, 2009
3:18 pm
The shot of hanson in the dugout looked like the ugly redheaded kid that nody will play with!
pryguy
June 7th, 2009
3:18 pm
Braves Stink,
Then stop watching. Stop rooting. Go relieve your stress and release your anger elsewhere, not on a professional baseball team. For 14 straight years, the Braves formula provided championship baseball. Why am I not to believe this team isn’t built similar to past teams. They are in an awful slump and that is obvious, but have shown signs to be a very good baseball club. Not praying, just observing wisely, not harshly like most of you on here.
Braves Stink With Or Without Hanson
June 7th, 2009
3:19 pm
kirkinga “Folks we’re only down by 2 with 1/3 of the game remaining.”
You’re kidding, right?
They were down by 1 in at least two games prior to todays game and couldn’t score in 21 innings!
So where is the pony under all this sh*t?
MFin04
June 7th, 2009
3:19 pm
That Tommy Hanson is one heck of a player isn’t he?
So is this McLouth guy.
Oh and Kris Medlen…
Oh and KJ, Esco, Kotchman, Garrett Anderson, Matt Diaz, Jeff Francoeur, Martin Prado, David Ross, missing anyone else?
BravesFanChris24
June 7th, 2009
3:19 pm
kirkinga
Sort of ~_~
I’ve been coming here for past two seasons, so I know the fickleness is expected. I’m just appalled by it.
Soph
June 7th, 2009
3:19 pm
Let’s keep it real -
Tom Glavine Rookie Year: 1987 5.54 ERA
John Smoltz Rookie Year: 1988 5.48 ERA
Greg Maddux Rookie Year: 1986 5.52 ERA
And, they turned out fine. Calm down people.
Ripped Again
June 7th, 2009
3:20 pm
Im watching a real baseball team the Yanks and Rays ,and Sox and Rangers
Carroll Rogers
June 7th, 2009
3:20 pm
Final line on Hanson, who’s day went way, way South, six innings, six hits, seven runs, six earned. three homers….one walk, five strikeouts…..i didn’t see that one coming. But the Brewers obviously timed him after the first time through the order….91 pitches, 30 balls, 61 strikes.
Steve from KY
June 7th, 2009
3:20 pm
Come on McLouth!
Rob (from SC)
June 7th, 2009
3:20 pm
When do we get to the place where we need to be sellers. Gonzalez, Soriano, Vazquez, Kawakami and rebuild this thing.
pryguy
June 7th, 2009
3:20 pm
Wayne in Utah,
Your post at 3:14 echoes my sentiments. Thank you for your words.
Steve from OH
June 7th, 2009
3:20 pm
missing anyone else?
The incredibly valuable blogger MFin09. And by valuable, I mean “stupid,” “and idiot,” or “numbletard.”
bravos2249
June 7th, 2009
3:20 pm
Ripped Again
Doesn’t matter what Glavine is doing cause he doesn’t have a job. At least the homers he did give up where to good hitters on bad pitches. Had it been on good pitches to bad hitters, then we’d have something to worry about.
Still don’t know why whoever it was kept calling or let him throw fastballs right there for them to hit though….I mean every homer was hit on a fastball. You think after 2 homers you’d change it up.
braves
June 7th, 2009
3:21 pm
we might win or lose today, but it was the time to impress national media. highlights and go back to a more exciting team.
but…………
Rob (from SC)
June 7th, 2009
3:21 pm
Hanson also needs to throw his fastball inside more often
McFann's Sister
June 7th, 2009
3:21 pm
Hey, McFann!
I saw you on TV when Chipper hit his second home run.
Sorry McCann’s not playing. Hope you’re having fun!
Carroll Rogers
June 7th, 2009
3:21 pm
Soph, that was largely my point in the blog. ….that it rarely is so easy for rookies, no matter how highly touted.
SOS
June 7th, 2009
3:21 pm
Hey pryguy. Where have you been the last 3 years? This team sux just like they have the last 3.
braves
June 7th, 2009
3:22 pm
BIG TIME mclouth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DirtyYuni
June 7th, 2009
3:22 pm
Here’s your chance, Nate…
MFin04
June 7th, 2009
3:22 pm
Tom Glavine still available? We still need a 5th starter.
N8
June 7th, 2009
3:22 pm
If you look at Hanson’s history, he has struggled the first couple times out (usually high pitch counts) at each stop and then turned it up a notch. Which shows he knows how to adjust.
Time will tell if he’s got the “adjustments” in him (I think he does), to succeed up here. He’s obviously got the stuff.
John Smoltz went 2-7 with a 5.48 ERA in his first 12 starts of his career. That was AFTER giving up only 1 ER in 8 innings in his debut. Which means after his stellar debut, he went 1-7 with a 6.10 ERA in his next ll.
I’m not worried.
hang 1 hanson
June 7th, 2009
3:22 pm
Even jojo is laughin
braves
June 7th, 2009
3:22 pm
this is not PITTSBURGH!!!!!
Ripped Again
June 7th, 2009
3:22 pm
yo braves
i bet the house your going lose today LOL
joe
June 7th, 2009
3:22 pm
that 2-1 pitch to mclouth was not a strike
I Watched
June 7th, 2009
3:22 pm
I watched the pitch readings @ the Ted last night in person while Hoffman was pitching. His fastball was never over 85 and a couple were 84. He’s a changeup guy now and has been for a few years since he lost his giddyup.
So what’s the problem with Glavine’s 84 mph fastball?
Wes
June 7th, 2009
3:22 pm
Dave, any chance they call Freddy Freeman up while Kotchman is on the DL? I know he’s young, but a 15 day stretch against the majors couldn’t hurt him, right?
bravos2249
June 7th, 2009
3:22 pm
Rob (from SC)
The homer to Cameron was inside…fat and inside on the plate
Wayne in Utah
June 7th, 2009
3:22 pm
I truly wish you idiots who are talking about how Glavine must be enjoying this game, would use your true name/moniker, so the rest of us could realize who the idiot truly is.
Cowards (Ripped again, The highlight of my pathetic existence, oldschool, etc.)
Ripped Again
June 7th, 2009
3:23 pm
Pitts going come in and kick their butts starting tomarrow night
pryguy
June 7th, 2009
3:23 pm
SOS,
I’ve continued to support them just as any fan. And I’ve tried to do so in a positive manner, cause fans should be through the winning and the losing. Obviously, you’re not mature enough to handle the losing, like most others on here.
Jerry Holcombe
June 7th, 2009
3:23 pm
Just i case anyone is wondering, after 54 games last year, the Braves were 2.0 games back and finished 20 games out. Before todays game, the Braves are 6 games out and the future is looking dim.
McLouth of the South
June 7th, 2009
3:23 pm
What a bunch of f’ing morons. The kid got through 5 innings with 68 pitches and 4 hits. For once Bobby’s line would be accurate. “Kid looked great, just made a couple mistakes.” The 0-2 fastball down the middle to Braun was the bad one.
BravesFanChris24
June 7th, 2009
3:23 pm
McLouth is giving a fight here. Good on him.
N8
June 7th, 2009
3:23 pm
Best part about Hanson’s “line” today?
1 Walk.
I’ll take getting hit, over giving them walks, any day of the week.
Rob (from SC)
June 7th, 2009
3:23 pm
we need a true leadoff hitter, a powerful RH hitter to hit between Chipper and McCann, and for Bobby Cox and Frank Wren to get rid of Jeff Francoeur. It would be great if we could find a second baseman with speed. Not to many of them around though.
Nate McMouth
June 7th, 2009
3:24 pm
Can I go back to Pittsburgh…please?
Mixxo
June 7th, 2009
3:24 pm
pryguy
What can I say? I have an innate sixth sense for judging talent and team dynamics. I wasn’t throwing Mr. Hanson under the bus before his first start. He’s got great stuff, but just has to learn how to channel it.
I don’t sugarcoat anything. Harsh? Maybe it is, but I call it like I see it.
The Real Fan
June 7th, 2009
3:24 pm
Atlanta IP H R ER BB SO HR ERA
Tommy Hanson 6.0 6 7 7 1 5 3 10.50
’nuff said
TNJeff
June 7th, 2009
3:24 pm
What can you say …
this team has a will to lose and lose they will
Down the road comes 12 game stretch vs Yankees, Red Sox, & Phillies.
We are gonna get killed and be double digits behind front runners and likely behind FL by then too.
Jerry Holcombe
June 7th, 2009
3:24 pm
Enter your comments here
DCBrave
June 7th, 2009
3:24 pm
time to remind you again the first couple years’ stats of the ol’ three:
maddux: 2-4 (era 5.52), 6-14 (era 5.61)
glavine: 2-4 (era 5.54), 7-17 (era 4.56)
smoltz: 2-7 (era 5.48), 12-11(era 2.94)
the big three’s first year stats were amazingly similar.
Not saying Hanson could not be better for the first year, just saying as long as he’s got the stuff, he’ll be fine.
Prattvillenolzfan
June 7th, 2009
3:24 pm
Hey Pryguy
Are you one of these fans who thinks that EVERYTHING COX does is wonderful…….I mean he was the ONLY ONE responsible for all of our division titles right……
Chipper, Maddux, Glavine, Smoltz, McGriff, Justice, Bream, Pendleton, Sheffield, all of them had NOTHING to do with it did they……..
Time and time again, Cox has proved that when he stays the hell out of the way, we will be successful, but when he gets involved, things fall apart.
Look at our bullpen the last couple of years.
Look at our bench situation the last couple of years.
Look at how he just sits there this year….at least the last couple of years he’d run out of the dugout everynow and then and get thrown out of a game…He doesn’t even do that anymore.
My only point is that you could tell Hanson was getting a little gassed in the 5th, I think the 6th would’ve been a good inning to put in someone else (not Bennett however).
By bringing him out in the 6th, it destroyed all the confidence that he would’ve gained.
Now why don’t you go and fu– yourself
Nate from NCState
June 7th, 2009
3:24 pm
I think we could all use a little Bill Parcells philosophy around here..
“It’s never as good as you think it is when things are going right and it’s never as bad as you think it is when things are going wrong.”
Settle down guys. Go outside, take a walk. It’s baseball.
Steve from OH
June 7th, 2009
3:24 pm
I know he’s young, but a 15 day stretch against the majors couldn’t hurt him, right?
Except that he’s in A ball, isn’t hitting for much power there, never mind giving away an option year, adding him to the 40-man roster, and service time considerations. Remember how something like that worked out for Schafer and JoJo Reyes?
Braves Paisan
June 7th, 2009
3:24 pm
Folks, Hanson has a live arm and excellent stuff. Let’s give him a few more starts before pronouncing him a bust, shall we?
Ripped Again
June 7th, 2009
3:24 pm
Wayne in Utah
im sure he’s getting a giggle about how things are going
MFin04
June 7th, 2009
3:25 pm
Maybe we should have traded Hanson for Nate McLouth, both seem to have equal value of suckiness.
SOS
June 7th, 2009
3:25 pm
Pryguy. NO I’m just not a loser like you. I expect winning. They are paid to do so. And cox is a loser like you as well.
Shoeless Joe
June 7th, 2009
3:25 pm
Hanson will be okay. His fastball was pretty straight and up in the zone. When he learns to keep it down his results will improve dramatically.
braves
June 7th, 2009
3:25 pm
this brewers team has a big time offense. so it was tough for hanson. may be next time against the pirates.
joe
June 7th, 2009
3:25 pm
just shows how great JJ has been his first two years
Ian Curtis
June 7th, 2009
3:26 pm
That’s an ERA of 9.00…not 10.50
Ripped Again
June 7th, 2009
3:26 pm
Hansons just over hyped ,they should had traded him for Peavy when they could
bravos2249
June 7th, 2009
3:26 pm
McLouth of the South
Yeah then Bobby put him back up there and he gave up 4 runs. It’s not the fact that I’m bagging on Hanson but take him out after 5. Every rookie making their first start should only be expected to go 5. Our bullpen hasn’t been taxed…Medlen hasn’t pitched in 5 days….It would have been okay.
SOS
June 7th, 2009
3:26 pm
Prattvillenolzfan… Right on Brother.
Carroll Rogers
June 7th, 2009
3:26 pm
Monty, how are we supposed to take your points seriously about Kris Medlen when you spell his name Chris Medlin?
Signed, Carol Rodgers
oldschool
June 7th, 2009
3:26 pm
Wayne where ya been? I ‘ve been using oldschool since I found this blog!
Jerry Holcombe
June 7th, 2009
3:26 pm
I wonder when McLouth is gonna get that first rbi?
Soph
June 7th, 2009
3:26 pm
Yup, I have to say JJ has been awesome.
MFin04
June 7th, 2009
3:27 pm
Hanson can even make the other team’s pitcher hit homeruns. Warning track double…horrible!!!!
joe
June 7th, 2009
3:27 pm
Heres Bennett….how many walks today?
Ripped Again
June 7th, 2009
3:27 pm
wow with a ERA like that its going take a month to get that down lol
braves
June 7th, 2009
3:27 pm
frenchy for kotsay.
left diez
center kotsay
right Mclaouth
DCBrave
June 7th, 2009
3:27 pm
sorry, didn’t see Soph put it out there already.
Rob (from SC)
June 7th, 2009
3:27 pm
Kris Medlen must be in Bobby Cox’s doghouse. Is he ever going to pitch again.
MFin04
June 7th, 2009
3:27 pm
Nothing makes me happy. I could win the lottery and I’d still p!ss and moan about it.
pryguy
June 7th, 2009
3:28 pm
Prattville,
I just wanted to know your credentials compared to a Hall of Fame manager. All you can give me are personal opinions on his performance over the years, and such broad examples. Has he made mistakes before, absolutely. Only human. Do I trust in his managing over the course of a season or the course of a player’s career. Absolutely. I’d expect someone with all the right answers to be a little more select in your choice of words. I guess I shouldn’t assume.
Frenchy Spasmo
June 7th, 2009
3:28 pm
So Frenchy comes on and makes it look like a tough play. Why? Because he stumbles and falls all over the place where smooth outfielders glide over and catch the ball about belt level.
Ripped Again
June 7th, 2009
3:28 pm
If i were Chipper i would ask for them to trade me,im sure he’s getting tired of playing with those dead beats
bravos2249
June 7th, 2009
3:28 pm
Jerry Holcombe
Well it was kinda hard the past few nights with no one on in front of him
SOS
June 7th, 2009
3:29 pm
OK. I’m going to be positive. Jeff Bennett does not suck. Jeff Bennett does not suck.
MFin04
June 7th, 2009
3:29 pm
Nothing makes me happy. Yeh 3.5 hrs to the Brewers today and 7 runs. That’s something to be happy about. That and Bobby Cox’s stellar managing abilities this year.
Coxlover
June 7th, 2009
3:29 pm
Horrible debut for Tommy Hanson. 6 innings, 6 earned runs, 3 homers, hopefully he gets better.
pryguy
June 7th, 2009
3:29 pm
SOS,
Ever hear of fighting a losing battle? That’s the situation I am in with holding a discussion about baseball with you. Good day my man.
brewdawg
June 7th, 2009
3:29 pm
I wanted Hanson to do well (I’m a Braves fan after all), but I do take pleasure in the egg on Frank Wren’s face right now. Hell, the entire Braves front office. Now let’s see if we can save Hanson from a loss.
wow
June 7th, 2009
3:29 pm
welcome to the BIGS tommy hanson and oh yea by the way you cant go there you pitch up in this game, evident by the three big bombs and a double by the pitcher and when will the scoreless streak end for the Braves 28 innings it has been now because Chipper drove in all the runs i wont give credit to the rest of these scumbags just simply because there peasants compared to chipper.
Wayne all upset now..poor baybie!
June 7th, 2009
3:30 pm
Wayne the problem is too much hype. The kid did not live up to all the hype. You can wet up your panties all you’d like but Hanson was hyped too much.
BravesFanChris24
June 7th, 2009
3:30 pm
He was out!
Rob (from SC)
June 7th, 2009
3:30 pm
Francoeur played that well
NORRIS
June 7th, 2009
3:30 pm
June swoon her we come. We will be 12 games out by the end of June.
We have no offense. Chipper is the only one that was ready to play today.
Once again Bennett is in there to give them about 5 more runs.
Im sick of it…
bravos2249
June 7th, 2009
3:30 pm
Bobby gonna get tossed
Soph
June 7th, 2009
3:31 pm
Wow. He musta missed the tag or something…
Ripped Again
June 7th, 2009
3:31 pm
Coxlover
Thats wishful thinking lol
Soph
June 7th, 2009
3:31 pm
Or, not! He was OUT!!
BravesFanChris24
June 7th, 2009
3:31 pm
Horrible call there.
SOS
June 7th, 2009
3:31 pm
OK here comes our savior Bobby Cox. Eat a carrot Bobby. You fat #%$^@.
MFin04
June 7th, 2009
3:31 pm
If Bobby doesn’t get tossed here he is a horrible manager…
Coxlover
June 7th, 2009
3:32 pm
He was so out. That ump is blind.
Frenchy Spasmo
June 7th, 2009
3:32 pm
Even teams in loser markets like Pittsburg and KC don’t keep their manager and coaches when they underperform like the Braves do. And in those markets they KNOW they don’t have the talent to compete!
So what does Atl do? They remain satisfied with failure.
Carroll Rogers
June 7th, 2009
3:32 pm
Bobby just must not be saying the magic words this season.
braves
June 7th, 2009
3:32 pm
kelly could made a better throw!!!!!!!!!!!
wow
June 7th, 2009
3:32 pm
and agian when you play like the Braves are now bad luck and ball calls seem to follow you around
joe
June 7th, 2009
3:32 pm
I wanna see Chip beat the crap out of Counsell
pryguy
June 7th, 2009
3:32 pm
Wayne all upset now…
Should we disregard your post because you misspelled baby in your name or your post just flat out sucks and makes no sense? Which should we choose…hmmmm
Jeff321
June 7th, 2009
3:33 pm
“It looks like Chipper tagged him 3 times before he got to the bag.”
-FSNW Announcer
MFin04
June 7th, 2009
3:33 pm
IRS: MFin, we decided to pick one person this year and double their tax rebate.
MFin: Son of a…wtf?!?!? You pieces of sh@#. You can’t tell me how much my tax rebate’s supposed to be.
IRS: Yes we can. Uh, we’re the IRS.
MFin: Whatever. I’m determined to get upset about everything, no matter what. Just for that, I’m going to pay you guys twice what you said you were giving me.
IRS: That’s the stupidest thing we’ve ever heard, but alright. We’ll take it where we can get it.
MFin: Damn right you will.
BravesFanChris24
June 7th, 2009
3:33 pm
Can’t really assess Hanson till he gets more games under his belt. Remember, he’s struggled after reaching each level and then was fine after a few starts.
Mixxo
June 7th, 2009
3:33 pm
Nice play Rossy
braves
June 7th, 2009
3:33 pm
who was was that, JJ or frenchy??
MFin04
June 7th, 2009
3:33 pm
Bobby is the worst manager in baseball. Have to get tossed there. You don’t bring Bennett in, down only 2 runs in the 7th. Just a horrible move. Bennett should be, at best, in AAA.
Jerry Holcombe
June 7th, 2009
3:33 pm
Bad enough that we suck so bad, but can’t even get the umps to do their jobs properly.
Coxlover
June 7th, 2009
3:33 pm
I’m shocked Cox didnt get tossed.
Prattvillenolzfan
June 7th, 2009
3:33 pm
pryguy….
I’m certainly no expert.
My opinions are based on fact..
However, I will grant you this. Cox is a sure Hall-of-Famer. That there is no doubt. He did a WONDERFUL job keeping everything together during the stretch run.
HOWEVER his time has certainly passed.
WHY DON’T YOU DO ME A FAVOR
Why don’t you tell me what WONDERFUL managerial decisions COX has made this year that has helped this team.
How has his handling of the bullpen HELPED this team.
How has his handling of the lineup HELPED this team.
How has his handling of Franceour HELPED this team.
How has his during game strategy HELPED this team…..
BATTER UP, I’m waiting for your response.
Remember….turnabout’s fair play
FACT NOT OPINION
Prez of Matt Diaz Fan Club
June 7th, 2009
3:34 pm
I just turned on this game – R U KIDDING ME?
Frenchy Spasmo
June 7th, 2009
3:34 pm
So Cox lovers?
How can you expect this team to keep a fire going when Cox CANT EVEN GET FIRED UP over a blown call when the Braves are struggling?
It takes losers to accept losing like this.
bigcooterb
June 7th, 2009
3:34 pm
Somehow I can’t get too excited about expecting a .250 hitter to ignite the offense.
bravos2249
June 7th, 2009
3:34 pm
yeah I’m positive about Hanson and all but Jojo didn’t give up 3 homers in his debut…but he did face the Padres
oldschool
June 7th, 2009
3:35 pm
I don’t think I remember bobby cox making this many games without gettin thrown out
DirtyYuni
June 7th, 2009
3:35 pm
I don’t even know how you make such a poor call. That was ridiculous.
Oh and ps? I hate Jeff Bennett.
Irrational Braves Fan
June 7th, 2009
3:35 pm
The sky is falling! The sky is falling! Tom Hanson the savior! Nevermind, Tommy Hanson is a bust (after six innings of big-league work)! Bring back Tom Glavine! Trade Hanson for Peavy! The Braves will never win another game! Bobby Cox is the anti-Christ!
SOS
June 7th, 2009
3:35 pm
Pryguy. You are right. You are fighting a losing battle. Just like the braves as long as we have Bobby Cox.
Goldenglove002
June 7th, 2009
3:35 pm
I’ve seen little league umps make worse calls than that. What did the unpire see?
NORRIS
June 7th, 2009
3:35 pm
Bennett is absolutely horrible. I cant understand how in God’s green earth he manages to stay in the big leagues. He must be related to someone in the main office or he has some major black mail material on frank wren.haha
cafleming
June 7th, 2009
3:35 pm
We need instant replay for things like this, not just homeruns only. Umpires do have some blind spots where they can’t really see.
braves
June 7th, 2009
3:35 pm
hey!!! is all good we have KENSHIN KAWAKAMI (call me KENSHIN!!!) tomorrow.
Daybed Wagmoe
June 7th, 2009
3:35 pm
How on earth does a major league umpire miss a call like THAT?!?!?!?!?!?!?
LuisG
June 7th, 2009
3:35 pm
Come on Bennett! Please, don’t walk this guy, just make some good-tough pitches.
Braves Fan 88
June 7th, 2009
3:35 pm
Folks, Hanson has a live arm and excellent stuff. Let’s give him a few more starts before pronouncing him a bust, shall we?
Uh, nope let’s don’t. We were told this guy was ready to go. Not only that, we were told he could get big league hitters out better than Tommy Glavine. None of that was true and we can all see it now.
Ripped Again
June 7th, 2009
3:35 pm
Wonder what ol Frank Wern thinking about his screwed up team rigth now LOL
Prez of Matt Diaz Fan Club
June 7th, 2009
3:36 pm
What the heck happened in the 6th to Hanson?
pryguy
June 7th, 2009
3:36 pm
Man,
What an awful job by Bennett there tsranding that runner at 3rd. Unreal!
MFin04
June 7th, 2009
3:36 pm
Bobby Cox has got to go. He is the one ultimately responsible for this team losing, and until he goes, the team will continue to lose.
Interested Observer
June 7th, 2009
3:37 pm
Wow. MLB security needs to take another look at Marvin Hudon’s offshore accounts. He had a PERFECT view of that play. There’s no non-criminal way he could have missed that call.
NORRIS
June 7th, 2009
3:37 pm
we will be back in our place in 4th place in another day or two.
brewdawg
June 7th, 2009
3:37 pm
BTW, RIP David Carradine. Absolutely fantastic in the Kill Bill movies (too young to remember Kung Fu).
Prez of Matt Diaz Fan Club
June 7th, 2009
3:37 pm
MFin04 – who would replace Cox, TP?
Paul Lentz
June 7th, 2009
3:38 pm
Playing Jeff Franceour and batting him 5th was Bobby Cox’s worst managerial move today. I would have started Anderson in left and Diaz in right. Defense aside, you have to score runs to win this game. And Franceour is doing nothing to help in that regard.
bravos2249
June 7th, 2009
3:38 pm
I just noticed…every single time there was a runner on base he gave up a run….that’s not good.
I’m Hanson pro-active but that’s not good.
Prattvillenolzfan
June 7th, 2009
3:38 pm
Hey Wren
You’ve made the tough choices about running off 2 hall-of-fame pitchers,
why don’t you do the same with our manager…..
I JUST typed the fact that Cox has not gotten tossed this year, and what happens. He WEEBLES out to 3rd, and nothing happens.
wow
June 7th, 2009
3:38 pm
well seeing Bennett just got out of that and has a good ERA this season he sould be at AAA doubt it hes a good enough long relief pitcher and theres people on this team that are performing way worse than Bennett try Kelly Johnson, Jeff Francouer, Peter Moylan, and a couple others like the Garrett Andersons, and Greg Nortons
NORRIS
June 7th, 2009
3:38 pm
Glavine would have never made it thru the first today.
Lars Taint
June 7th, 2009
3:38 pm
Paul Lentz,
For someone who claims to watch a lot of baseball, you don’t seem to know much about the game. I just saw your response on yesterday’s blog about your rediculous trade proposal. If you think the gap in the salaries wouldn’t keep the trade from happening, then you really have no clue what you are talking about. Teams have budgets. (Except for maybe the Yankees) The Rangers would not have started the season with $15 million left in their budget without going after any of the higher dollar free agents that were available this offseason. They would absolutely not trade someone making the league minimum for someone making $11.5 million. It absolutely makes no sense. As for Andrus, he absolutely has pop in his bat. He is batting 9th because he is a rookie. Just like Shafer. Do you also think Shafer has no pop in his bat? Please stop making such rediculous comments. David Wright only has 3 homers so far this year. Do you think he has no pop in his bat either? Andrus is ranked as a top 10 prospect in baseball for a reason, and it’s not just his defense.
Braves Fan 88
June 7th, 2009
3:38 pm
Peavy for the likes of Hanson and Boyer is looking like a deal now huh? We would had the money to sign Adam Dunn.
MFin04
June 7th, 2009
3:39 pm
We could replace Bobby with the President of the Matt Diaz fan club for all I care, it’s not that hard to manage baseball. Just don’t do anything stupid. Boooby is the king of stupid.
bravos2249
June 7th, 2009
3:39 pm
Prez of Matt Diaz Fan Club
At least we’d have a different hitting coach
N8
June 7th, 2009
3:39 pm
“just shows how great JJ has been his first two years.” joe
Let’s not forget that JJJ had a 4.70 ERA in his first 7 starts for Detroit the season before being traded to the Braves.
ALL good pitchers struggle coming out of the gates, at times.
Going into his 20K game against Houston, Kerry Woods had a 2-2 record and a 5.89 ERA in his first four major league starts. Two starts before the 20 K start, he allowed 7 ER in 1.2 IP.
Relax people.
Now…. If you wanna talk about Jeff Francoeur’s inability to hit, and Bobby/Wren’s mule-like mentality to keep him not only on the roster, but in the lineup? Yeah. I’ll join in that conversation.
Prattvillenolzfan
June 7th, 2009
3:39 pm
Hey PRYguy
Where are you
I’m waiting for your response
braves
June 7th, 2009
3:39 pm
we just sign john huber. right handed pitcher
Jerry Holcombe
June 7th, 2009
3:39 pm
braves2249, Jesus dude! McLouth has had 1 freakin hit in 3 days. It doesn’t matter how many are on base ahead of you if you don’t get the hits.
LuisG
June 7th, 2009
3:40 pm
I was just wondering: how many of us would do better than, Medlen and Hanson on their debut start, better than Francoeur, Kelly J, Kotchman, Diaz, Escobar, Chipper (yeah, nobody’s bashing him today but he usually gets some “love” from us), better than Bennett…
I was just wondering…
wow
June 7th, 2009
3:40 pm
TP is the hitting coach and hes darn sure failing at that so if he cant do his job he has now why would he deserve to be manager i just cant promote someone when there failing at there own job
Daybed Wagmoe
June 7th, 2009
3:40 pm
Braves Fan 88 — are you serious? One game against a team who’s very strong offensively and you’re ready to send him back down, huh? Did you completely miss the first 3 innings?
BravesFanChris24
June 7th, 2009
3:41 pm
I think Hanson will make the needed adjustments in his next few starts.
Prez of Matt Diaz Fan Club
June 7th, 2009
3:41 pm
Point taken. Never thought I lived to see the day fans were calling for a new GM, coach, hitting coach, pitching coach, position players, and pitchers. An I missing anyone? Basically we just want a new team.
Frenchy Spasmo
June 7th, 2009
3:41 pm
“What the heck happened in the 6th to Hanson?”
He turned into Jo Jo Reyes. But man he really had great stuff! Seems like I heard that about Jo Jo as well.
Ripped Again
June 7th, 2009
3:42 pm
I’m going start a site Fire Frank Wren .com
bravos2249
June 7th, 2009
3:42 pm
Jerry Holcombe
It does when you talk rbi’s GENIUS
monty
June 7th, 2009
3:42 pm
Carol
How are we supposed to take your points on Kris Medlin seriously when you spell his name Chris Medlin?”
Ms. Rogers, forgive me I had a deadline I was trying to make. Isn’t that usually your’s and Dave’s excuse. Plus I don’t get paid for this stuff. I’ll be watching you for a slip up. You had better be on your P’s and Q’s! Just messing with you.
Prattvillenolzfan
June 7th, 2009
3:42 pm
We can keep the grounds crew……..
Also the Team doctor is pretty good from what I can gather.
Frank from KS
June 7th, 2009
3:43 pm
Tommy Hanson to Frank Wren & Bobby Cox “Hey, why in the hell did you guys call me up to be in this mess?
Tommy “Can I be sent back down or traded to someone who’s in contention? I’d have more fun that way. This is complete BS”
Lol
Kyle
June 7th, 2009
3:43 pm
I’m done with this blog…The majority of you guys are blabbering idiots who aren’t braves fans. Its one start Mclouth has been playing for 3 games. Go pick a new team to bash… the Braves fan’s unions says f you and go be a fan of the Pirates
Daybed Wagmoe
June 7th, 2009
3:43 pm
Tim Lincecum’s first game: 4.1 IP, 5 hits, 5 ER, 2 HR, 5 BB, 5 Ks.
Hopeless in TN
June 7th, 2009
3:43 pm
Bring out the Powder Blue Uniforms guys, the 80’s has came full circle. We are done we just need to trade Lowe, Vazquez, Chipper, and BMac. Get all the prospects we can and play for 2015. We might have chance by then!!!!!!!
Prez of Matt Diaz Fan Club
June 7th, 2009
3:43 pm
Frenchy Spasmour – this start reminds me of his spring training debut. He’s not good at performing under pressure.
Interested Observer
June 7th, 2009
3:43 pm
The next lineup:
McLouth-CF
Prado-2B
Chipper-3B
McCann-C
Anderson-LF
Escobar-SS
Diaz-RF
Norton-1B
Braves Paisan
June 7th, 2009
3:43 pm
We are a MEDIOCRE team — NOT a bad team — because of our lack of offense. Unless Bobby turns into the reincarnation of player/manager Frankie Frisch, there isn’t much he can do about getting us to score more runs. Baseball statisticians have known for years that shuffling the line-up order makes very little difference as to the total number of runs scored. Only a change in personnel can do that.
But we have the foundation: solid starting pitching. The pen has been fine of late as well. I believe we are only one power bat away from competing for our division.
Buck up, will ‘ya — Braves fans! This is ATLANTA — not Hoboken!
McLouth of the South
June 7th, 2009
3:43 pm
Pull him after 68 pitches huh? Yeah, that’s conventional. None of you morons were saying that before the 6th, and none would be saying that if the lead held up. Hindsight is 20/20.
Paul Lentz
June 7th, 2009
3:44 pm
LuisG……how many of us are getting PAID like the Braves that you mentioned in your posting? If it was easy, then why pay them all that money? If you are comparing their abilities to hit to the regular fan, then you are really nothing but a “jock sniffer” for the Jeff Franceours of this world.
N Nine (Send Frenchy down)
June 7th, 2009
3:44 pm
“Now…. If you wanna talk about Jeff Francoeur’s inability to hit, “” N8
Ya no kidding N8. It’s time for his annual visit with some coaches to “adjust” his head.
LuisG
June 7th, 2009
3:44 pm
… I forgot to mention Kawakami, Moylan and just anybody else on our team.
Ripped Again
June 7th, 2009
3:44 pm
Frank from KS
You rock dude !
Prez of Matt Diaz Fan Club
June 7th, 2009
3:44 pm
Prattvillenolzfan – the team doctors are really the unsung heros of this team. Just think, they had to deal with Chipper’s injuries.
Steve from OH
June 7th, 2009
3:45 pm
Tim Lincecum’s first game: 4.1 IP, 5 hits, 5 ER, 2 HR, 5 BB, 5 Ks.
He sucks. Pencil-necked dweeb with long hippie-hair.
BravesFanChris24
June 7th, 2009
3:45 pm
Chipper’s single!
Just needs another at bat for a double ~_~
bravos2249
June 7th, 2009
3:45 pm
Chipper only needs a DOUBLE….let’s hope he comes up again
Na Na Na Na Hey Hey Hey Goodbye
June 7th, 2009
3:45 pm
Kyle
Don’t let the door hit you on the way out
MFin04
June 7th, 2009
3:45 pm
Chipper is going to hit for the cycle with 2 homers and we still won’t win, lol, that would be horribly sad, lol.
Jerry Holcombe
June 7th, 2009
3:45 pm
Chipper needs a double for the cycle.
N Nine (Send Frenchy down)
June 7th, 2009
3:45 pm
Chipper
HR,triple,single, doubleBill
June 7th, 2009
3:45 pm
DOB, Hanson make only three bad pitches, 3 fastballs over the plate, little high. Take those out and the Kid did great. Hanson will be a star…bet on it.
Chipper is the HOSS!
Mixxo
June 7th, 2009
3:45 pm
That Chipper Jones ….uhhh, that guy can hit or something.
N8
June 7th, 2009
3:46 pm
Braves Fan 88, well that’s your first problem. You’re trusting what’s being told to you by Bobby and Wren. How about make up your own mind and then give an opinion.
Keep in mind, the same people telling us that, are the ones that think Francoeur belongs in the big leagues. KJ makes a good lead off hitter. Jeff Bennett can get big league hitters out. Norton makes a good PH off the bench.
Should I keep going? OK. I will.
On May 6th, Derek Lowe gave up 6 ER in only 5 innings of work. Did that start show that he was unable to get hitters out? Should they have sent him packing?
We get it. You like Tommy Glavine. Good for you. Face facts buddy. This offense stinks, and ain’t NOBODY that pitches, is gonna save this team in 2009.
Time to look towards next year, which my guess WON’T include Tom Glavine for ANY major league team.
If after 10 starts of allowing 6+ ER, you can complain. But it’s one start, and if the offense (besides Chipper) would have gotten off their ass against a guy that’s done what Hanson did today for the entire season, they might actually win this game.
Steve from OH
June 7th, 2009
3:46 pm
MFin09, the only thing that is horribly sad here is you.
BravesFanChris24
June 7th, 2009
3:46 pm
Diaz got hit
Prez of Matt Diaz Fan Club
June 7th, 2009
3:46 pm
Don’t hit my boy Diaz – without him, who would I be?
braves
June 7th, 2009
3:46 pm
if we don’t swing at every pitch, we might do something with against this guy.
but FRENCHY IS UP!!!!! LOOOOOOOOOLLLLL
Wayne in Utah
June 7th, 2009
3:46 pm
oldschool
Sorry if I didn’t recognize you as a regular poster. OK, so now I must ammend my comment. You are not a coward, just an idiot! Just like MFin04.
As for the poster who called me a crybaybie (exactly how did you spell that??). Well, you are right, I am a crybaby. But you, my friend, are most definitely a coward. Show yourself and stand up for slamming me, or just shut the heck up. Coward.
Thanks for those with a voice of reason today. We true Braves fans will give Hanson ample opportunities to show his talent. (steve, daybed, kirk and others…)
Big Chief
June 7th, 2009
3:46 pm
Why will Bobby not put Yunel in the leadoff spot. He has the best average in the leadoff spot of any player on the roster!!!!!!!!!!!
bravos2249
June 7th, 2009
3:47 pm
McLouth of the South
He was starting to leave fastballs up in the 5th. We all may have been mad about it, but it wouldn’t have been bad no matter if he came out and got em out in the 6th or not.
Prattvillenolzfan
June 7th, 2009
3:47 pm
Chipper just wants everyone not to forget Hampton..
after all they are hunting buddies!!!!!!!!!!!
OUCH……DIAZ I hope not again
Shoeless Joe
June 7th, 2009
3:47 pm
Didn’t Morton win his MLB debut against the Angels on the road?
braves
June 7th, 2009
3:47 pm
frenchy pop out to short or DP
NORRIS
June 7th, 2009
3:47 pm
Hanson is fine and will be fine. But this offense is terrible.
We have got to do something to get these guys playing ball. Terry Pendleton may have been a good player but he has no idea how to coach. When Francoeur has to have his high school coach talk to him and have Chipper work with him in the batting cage should let you know Terry isnt doing something.
Rob (from SC)
June 7th, 2009
3:47 pm
I blame David Ross 100%. Hanson was not going to shake him off in his debut. Ross needed to call more breaking balls
braves
June 7th, 2009
3:47 pm
lolllll DP, DP
BravesFanChris24
June 7th, 2009
3:47 pm
Francoeur into the DP
He’s getting boo’ed now. Deservedly so.
DirtyYuni
June 7th, 2009
3:48 pm
That’s it, man. No more Frenchy. Enough is enough.
Braves Fan 88
June 7th, 2009
3:48 pm
Yeah I’m serious. At no time when people talked about Hanson did they even try to lower expectations. That includes Frank Wren too. Now after he looks like something less than “special” all y’all want to lower expectations. Sorry, but you fans built him up and you and Wren didn’t say “wait a few games”. Now you’re begging for patience..phuleeze!
bravos2249
June 7th, 2009
3:48 pm
Can we start a consensus BOOO for Frenchy?
I mean honestly.
TexasBrave
June 7th, 2009
3:48 pm
And let the Frying of Frenchy begin!!!
Prez of Matt Diaz Fan Club
June 7th, 2009
3:48 pm
Wayne in Utah, so your the one Braves fan in Utah. Chill out dude.
MFin04
June 7th, 2009
3:48 pm
Lol, Frenchy needs to be in AAA, no way around it now. He is an automatic out.
N Nine (Send Frenchy down)
June 7th, 2009
3:48 pm
BTW, let’s not forget, he did kill another rally earlier. Please send him down today.
MVH
June 7th, 2009
3:48 pm
It’s probably time to get rid of Jeff.
bravos2249
June 7th, 2009
3:48 pm
Shoeless Joe
Yes.
wow
June 7th, 2009
3:48 pm
how much longer can we afford to have francouer in this lineup he always kills a rally he helps the pitchers pitch count uhh he doesnt do anything right man time for double a ball frenchy
oldschool
June 7th, 2009
3:49 pm
Watching chipper get four hits from both sides you think frenchy would learn something but noooooo
TexasBrave
June 7th, 2009
3:49 pm
Excuse me!! Continue!!
Frenchy Spasmo
June 7th, 2009
3:49 pm
Kyle
“I’m done with this blog…The majority of you guys are blabbering idiots who aren’t braves fans.”
If being a real Braves fan means you accept the underachievements of the manager, coaches and players without question, then I’m NOT YOUR DEFINITION OF A BRAVES FAN!
Braves fans who accept this performance without question are losers!
bravos2249
June 7th, 2009
3:49 pm
Also for Frenchy if you hit the ball on the ground THAT much you should be able to run faster.
FaninFaytown
June 7th, 2009
3:49 pm
man its time. jf is a joke at the plate we just can’t stick him in there anymore.
DCBrave
June 7th, 2009
3:49 pm
regardless what happened to hanson today, june 7, 09 will be a historic day for the braves disorganization (I cann’t resist that) because hanson is gonna be something, no doubt.
just look at those clean dominant first three innings. there’s hope and there’s our future (in 5 more days). the stuff is there, adjustment’s coming.
Cooper S
June 7th, 2009
3:49 pm
Man, really should have pinch hit GA for Francoeur right there
bigmacattack
June 7th, 2009
3:49 pm
Lol, Frenchy needs to be in AAA
if by “AAA” you mean the affiliate of another team, then I agree!
Daybed Wagmoe
June 7th, 2009
3:50 pm
Frenchy GIDP.
Coulda seen that one coming from a mile away.
groundfog
June 7th, 2009
3:50 pm
He just beats the ball into the ground every at bat. I really can’t watch anymore-it’s awful and I root for the guy but geez.
N8
June 7th, 2009
3:50 pm
“He turned into Jo Jo Reyes. But man he really had great stuff! Seems like I heard that about Jo Jo as well.” Frenchy Spasmo
Let’s get one thing straight. Don’t EVER mention Jo-Jo, Hanson and the word “stuff” in the same sentence again. Two of those words belong toether and one (like the old Sesamie Street song said), “doesn’t belong”.
If you think Jo-Jo EVER had stuff like Hanson, somebody’s been lyin’ to you.
Somebody take Francoeur out back and put him out of our misery. He’s gotta go! Now. Yesterday. He’s HORRIBLE.
Epinephrine
June 7th, 2009
3:50 pm
Pretty surprised Garrett Anderson didn’t get the nod there. Francoeur has to go.
Paul Lentz
June 7th, 2009
3:50 pm
Has Jeff Franceour every had a day like in the Majors like Chipper has had today (4-4, 2 homers, a triple, a single, 5 RBI’s)?
Runners on first and second, one out…..OH NO, JEFF FRANCEOUR IS UP.
Wow, what a shock! Double play from Jeff Franceour. 0-4 today. And he is batting 5th.
I’ve been saying this for months. When Franceour tries to pull the ball, it is either a grounder to short or a strikeout. If he tries to go the other way, it is either a grounder to second, a weak popout, or…if he is lucky…..a poke to right field for a single.
Other than that homer he hit off Kevin Gregg (who hasnt hit one off him), what has Franceour done in the past 6 weeks?
Prez of Matt Diaz Fan Club
June 7th, 2009
3:50 pm
Hey guys, the Pirates are next. That’s good, right? UHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Mr. Fly (sleuth reporter)
June 7th, 2009
3:50 pm
PART SIX OF THE DAILY BUZZ
In this critical executive meeting at Braves HQ, Mr. Scheurholz returns to the conference room with Mr. Cox, who looks sleepy and Mr. Wren, who looks nervous. Mr. Trump begins…
DONALD: Gentlemen, I have just one more question I’d like to ask each of you before we finish our show, uh, meeting. I’ll ask you to keep your answer to one short sentence. Think about your answer very carefully. Your job will depend on the right answer here, and then I’ll make my final decision on who stays and who goes. Understand?
FRANK: What is this? John? Are we being taped for a show? Is this a joke? Are we going to be on TV? How does my hair look?
BOBBY: Uh, what? That’s fine. Any sunflower seeds around?
DONALD: Mr. Wren, as we’ve discussed, this team is losing games and the franchise is losing money. You blamed it all on Bobby. You threw him under the bus, even though he has nothing to do with profitability. Tell me briefly why it’s Bobby’s fault.
FRANK: If we would win games we would make money and I’d look smart.
DONALD: Mr. Cox, why can’t we seem to win more games than we lose?
BOBBY: Game of inches. Hitting it hard right at’em. Good lookin’ kids.
DONALD: Which one of you should I fire?
FRANK: Bobby is responsible for losing. It’s his fault. Fire him.
DONALD: Bobby, Mr. Wren has thrown you under the bus, much like he did with John Smoltz and Tom Glavine. What’s your reply to this charge?
BOBBY: Tommy is a good kid. John’s great., miss him. I’ve been here longer than anyone and won more games than anyone. You can’t fire me because this is all I want to do. What else will I do?
DONALD: Each of you please tell me why you need to be a part of this franchise.
FRANK: Well, expense account is nice. Name brand suits are paid for and the haircuts are free for top execs. Great perks and the TV cameras show me sitting in the booth looking sharp and busy during games. Sometimes my hairdresser comes up there and cuts my hair while I watch golf.
BOBBY: What was the question? Oh, uh, I don’t really like being at the farm. Nothing to do there. The dugout is where I want to be. I like yelling encouragements to the kids at bat.
DONALD: Last question and please keep your answer under four words. Why should I not fire you?
FRANK: Nice suits, good hair.
BOBBY: I like to watch.
DONALD: John, I’ve made my decision but you’ll have to excuse me. I need to take a call.
As John and Terry look on in amazement, Mr. Trump leaves the room to return a call from Arthur Blank.>/em>
brewdawg
June 7th, 2009
3:50 pm
Okay, so much for the 5-run comeback over the Cubs earlier this week being a “turnaround” game. Frustrating.
bravos2249
June 7th, 2009
3:50 pm
Wouldn’t it be something if Frenchy was like Ethier…that’s all I’m saying.
DirtyYuni
June 7th, 2009
3:50 pm
DOB getting a shout out on the air.
Ryan in Tn
June 7th, 2009
3:51 pm
At least Francouer puts the ball in play. They cant become hits if he don’t put it in play. I say we need to fire Pendleton and hire Don Baylor or Rudy Jaramillo to replace him.
Jerry Holcombe
June 7th, 2009
3:51 pm
bravos2249, you are such a lamoid to believe that McLouth is a run producing machine with all of his 1 hits in this series. dumbass.
Beauregard
June 7th, 2009
3:51 pm
Am I the only one thinking that McCann or G.Anderson might have been a good choice to PH for Francouer? I mean, you do Play To Win The Game, right?
oldschool
June 7th, 2009
3:51 pm
Yeah wayne tell one of your wives to get your chill pills
PWHjort
June 7th, 2009
3:51 pm
Attaway, Out Machine. At least you’re living up to your name.
Them Wayne panties are soake now!
June 7th, 2009
3:51 pm
But you, my friend, are most definitely a coward. Show yourself and stand up for slamming me, or just shut the heck up. Coward.
HAHAHAHAHA! Now if that ain’t the pot calling the kettle black! Add hypocrite liar to panty soaker. Wayne you are not the one to be calling someone out for using a different name and you know it! You’re one of the biggest offenders here.OMG!
ArkyTech
June 7th, 2009
3:52 pm
May as well put Glavine in right field.
ABravesFan
June 7th, 2009
3:52 pm
DOB have to ask Jeff Fail the tough questions after the game…would he accept a demotion to minors?
Efrim
June 7th, 2009
3:53 pm
I just don’t understand why he was batting fifth today. I mean, come on. I know he is better against left handers, but he just isn’t right and really hasn’t been for something like 2 years. I know he is 25, but again, there is A LOT of players his age doing so much more. I’m sure the Braves are trying to trade him and get what they feel is fair value, but if you want to field the best team possible, well then that’s one with Jeff Francoeur not on it.
Prez of Matt Diaz Fan Club
June 7th, 2009
3:53 pm
lucky charms O’Flaherty is here to save the day.
NORRIS
June 7th, 2009
3:53 pm
Whats funny is every time we have a rain delay we watch 3 hours of the Jeff Francoeur story. The PR department is really making this a bad situation for when we have to trade him. They continue to make him out to be the next murphy or whoever but the frenchy show at every rain delay has got to go too.
Rodney Derrick
June 7th, 2009
3:53 pm
Blog favorite Nelson Cruz just hit his 15th homer against Boston. Hard to believe he was put on waivers after spring training last year. Imagine Cruz with Braves instead of Frenchy, the rally killer.
Chris from the Rock
June 7th, 2009
3:53 pm
Francoeur succesful on another GIDP opportunity. Well done.
Frenchy is a complete joke.
June 7th, 2009
3:53 pm
OK , i’m done defending Frenchy, trade him , idc anymore but hell who would want his a$$, he hits into so many double plays and leaves so many runners on i rather have a pitcher hit for him.
LuisG
June 7th, 2009
3:53 pm
Paul Lentz-
Then why don’t we go to a tryout camp and show the scouts our talent on the baseball field and try to get signed so we can take over the spot these guys are in, and start enjoying their salaries? I mean, WE fans get paid for what we do (whatever it is) and we’re probably better at it than any of the Braves players. The fact is that they get paid to play baseball (whether they’re good or bad) until they can’t perform anymore.
Go ahead everybody, Frenchy just hit into a DP.
Big Chief
June 7th, 2009
3:54 pm
Jerry Holcomb, I beleive McLouth has more homeruns than anyone on the Braves roster and his RBI are no less than equal to everybodys. He did this while playing for the Pirates!!!!!!!!! Although the Pirates will probably sweep the Braves in the series.
BravesFanChris24
June 7th, 2009
3:54 pm
Did Joe say Garret was brought in for a double switch?
AndyC
June 7th, 2009
3:54 pm
Frenchy is like a black hole. Rallies enter and are never heard from again.
Prez of Matt Diaz Fan Club
June 7th, 2009
3:54 pm
Jeff F should consider going back to play football at Clemson; really.
kirkinga
June 7th, 2009
3:54 pm
Hate to break in to the drama…but this game can still be won. The Braves just this week came back late from a much larger deficit. Winning the game..that’s what we counts the most.
Heath (Cleveland)
June 7th, 2009
3:54 pm
…just got in… I guess Chipper should be in the 3-hole, huh? : ) Who would have though we’d get swept by the Brewers with JJ, Javy and Hanson pitching? Should we start selling now?
Frank from KS
June 7th, 2009
3:54 pm
Ripped Again
Tell me something I didn’t ALREADY know!!
Lol
lagnamor
June 7th, 2009
3:54 pm
When Bobby will you put Frenchy on the bench?
Maybe I should ask Wren, when will you replace Cox?
Hanson will be back, stronger and better.
N8, you have some good points.
Johnny Quest
June 7th, 2009
3:54 pm
Let’s do a blog wave, I’l start-WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
Steve from OH
June 7th, 2009
3:55 pm
Efrim, I agree. No excuse for that. Really no excuse to even play him. A lot of work has been done on determining if different lineup combinations can really make that much of a difference, and the results are pretty marginal, but that is a glaring hole in a big spot in our lineup. We have to have someone good hitting fifth.
Epinephrine
June 7th, 2009
3:55 pm
Is there a reason we sent Kris Medlen to go die in the bullpen? I mean seriously, why O’Flaherty again?
Wayne in Utah
June 7th, 2009
3:55 pm
Braves Fan 88
Nobody with any semblance of reason is trying to downplay Tommy Hanson after one game. Only the negative nellies.
McLouth of the South
June 7th, 2009
3:55 pm
Pitchers who throw 95 can pitch up in the zone. The key was he threw two pitches up and over the plate to a power hitter. Out of 91 pitches three got hit out. That is probably the most correctable stat there is. Much harder to coax a guy to get it over the plate.
pryguy
June 7th, 2009
3:55 pm
Prattville,
I had typed up a response and it got gobbled up by the blog apparently. Let me sum up exactly what it said. Cox is the least of the problems this team has. In fact, I think you need to look a little more on the surface to the issues with this team. The pitching has been stellar, the hitting has been anything but. What has Bobby done? Mixed up lineups trying to shake this slump. No matter the lineup, the hitting has still been sub par. But people like you need to place the blame elsewhere. Let’s keep it simple. Something NEEDS to spark this offense. I don’t see Bobby getting canned as being that something. Still the same hitters, with the same swings, with the same slumps. What are your credentials again though?
Goldenglove002
June 7th, 2009
3:55 pm
Milwakee has some very bad baserunning. Didn’t that same thing happen yesterday?
SOS
June 7th, 2009
3:55 pm
Frenchy Spasmo. I agree 100% with you. You are talking about Pryguy as one of those losers.
JasonInFL
June 7th, 2009
3:55 pm
Rob (from SC), good point. Why all of the blame obviously can’t be put on Ross, I thought a couple of the calls for ‘ol #1 were the wrong call…Hanson had just made the hitter look foolish with his slider. I also truly believe Hanson stopped getting the close pitches. I am recording the game and have gone back and watched some pitches from each of the first 5 innings. He was getting pitches in the first couple that he wasn’t getting in the last couple.
Oh, and BTW…Jeff sucks.
wow
June 7th, 2009
3:56 pm
someone please invent a time machine and lets go back a decade so we can get warmed up for the world series and make sure you call me up because its gonna be a few more decades before the braves think about the playoffs.
AndyC
June 7th, 2009
3:56 pm
I thought Hanson was going to get roughed up a little. Sorry to say I was right. The worst part is that this wastes a great day by Hoss.
SOS
June 7th, 2009
3:56 pm
Pryguy. What are your credentials Moron?
Prez of Matt Diaz Fan Club
June 7th, 2009
3:57 pm
Steve from OH: “We have to have someone good hitting fifth.” Who could we possible get that would change the dynamic of this team? This team is missing a LOT more than a single player.
Paul Lentz
June 7th, 2009
3:57 pm
Like I said, someone has to be blackmailing Braves management. There is no logical reason for Franceour to be playing. He simply cannot hit. Kills pretty much every rally.
I am too much of a Braves fan to be content with Jeff Franceour being thrown out there everyday. I’m going to keep ranting my displeasure until he is either benched, sent down to the minors, traded, or cut.
I can tell you guys why Franceour will be almost impossible to trade. Salary Arbitration. No team wants to pay Jeff Franceour the $5-7 mil that he will be asking for next year. The Braves will end up non tendering him after the season, and another team will probably sign him for the minimum, hoping that they can catch “lightning in a bottle”. However they will soon find out that he is not ever going to hit.
Prattvillenolzfan
June 7th, 2009
3:57 pm
I guess one can call people out all they want (PRYguy) but when the tables are being turned against them, they are going to shut up…..
We all have opinions about certain things, but that’s what makes us different.
I for one, have seen the Braves since 1969. I will always be a Braves fan. However, as fans we have the RIGHT to expect the organization to put the best product available. If we are in a rebuilding mode, then man up and be honest about it. Especially since the bar has been set with 14 straight division titles.
Since PRYguy is unable to come up with my suggestions, I want the rest of the kool-aid drinking, rose-colored glasses wearing Braves never does anything wrong fan to answer the following questions for me…..
Why don’t you tell me what WONDERFUL managerial decisions COX has made this year that has helped this team.
How has his handling of the bullpen HELPED this team?
How has his handling of the lineup HELPED this team?
How has his handling of Franceour HELPED this team?
How has his during game strategy HELPED this team?
J williams
June 7th, 2009
3:57 pm
At the start of this series with the Brewers, I felt that the Braves would sweep. They had made the trade for Mclouth, released Glavine, and were bringing up Hanson.
I thought surely, this will kick start their run on the division title.
I over estimated, at least for the short term.
Steve from OH
June 7th, 2009
3:58 pm
Prez, IMO, we just acquired that guy. But he’s fast, so he has to hit leadoff…
TIC
June 7th, 2009
3:58 pm
Time for Braves to can frenchy. He cant hit, never could, never will. Time for Braves brass to wake and and get rid of the cancer. Frenchy leads the league in one category – men LOB. Time to bring up someone who cares. Get rid of all who care only about the $$$. First Glavine, next Frenchy. See ya…
Goldenglove002
June 7th, 2009
3:58 pm
Oh my god, did they just say a new Brian Mccann special? Does that mean something we haven’t already seen a million times during rain delays?
the hope of the braves nation rests in your hands mr hanson
June 7th, 2009
3:58 pm
tommy hanson actually pitched well….especially early on. he has a plus fastball and incredible breaking stuff. he is always around the strike zone and that was the problem on a couple of those homeruns. he will learn that he doesnt have to throw strikes on an 0-2 or 1-2 count. i believe two of the homers were hit on those counts. he has the stuff and truly believe he will be special… is he going to help this team this year? i doubt it. roy halladay and johan santan couldnt help this AAA ball club. lets just pray bobby retires after the season and hopefully we can make a run next year. but as far as this team goes, well, there is no other way to put it except to say they are done and we would be extremely lucky to finish fourth in this division…. its a shame.
Jerry Holcombe
June 7th, 2009
3:59 pm
Chief, I didn’t say anything about what McLouth did with the Pirates. That is old news and in the past. He has had 1 hit this series and all I asked was when will he get his first Atlanta rbi. The question was not meant to spark discussion. Holy sheot!
Lieutenant Dan
June 7th, 2009
3:59 pm
Lets see now. They call you a Triple A player not ready for prime time up to the majors. YES SIR. Well then that just PERFECT.
Epinephrine
June 7th, 2009
3:59 pm
I thought Hanson did fine today. He showed everyone why he is so highly regarded-his stuff was dynamite. I think he was a little too amped up to start the game-his velocity went from 95-97 to 91-93, and it was those 91 mph fastballs left up over the plate that got whacked. He’ll be fine. As Carroll noted, it’s pretty common for guys to struggle in their first appearance. I’ll judge him after the All Star Break-but I have to say I was encouraged by what I saw.
Hanson Smanson
June 7th, 2009
3:59 pm
DCBrave
June 7th, 2009
3:49 pm
regardless what happened to hanson today, june 7, 09 will be a historic day for the braves disorganization (I cann’t resist that) because hanson is gonna be something, no doubt.
just look at those clean dominant first three innings.
dominate first three innings is called “first time through the order.” After they saw him once, he was toast!
God
June 7th, 2009
3:59 pm
Francouer…………. let my Number goooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mixxo
June 7th, 2009
4:00 pm
Lets get some runs!!!
Prez of Matt Diaz Fan Club
June 7th, 2009
4:00 pm
Dude, we need a face-lift, not botox.
BravesFanChris24
June 7th, 2009
4:00 pm
Way to go Prado!
Mixxo
June 7th, 2009
4:00 pm
There’s a start!
BravesFanChris24
June 7th, 2009
4:00 pm
Some Hustle!
Lieutenant Dan
June 7th, 2009
4:00 pm
Hey Frank Before you go and call up another one of your crack pot prospects how about running down the to the store and picking us up another bottle of Ripple
JasonInFL
June 7th, 2009
4:00 pm
Rodney Derrick, actually Cruz hit is 17th today…
NORRIS
June 7th, 2009
4:01 pm
I for the life of me cant figure out why you sit Mccann on the bench when you are in a losing streak. I can see giving him a break on occasion but when we are in a slump of desperate proportions ???
We are in danger of falling out of the whole race. Now is not the time to be sitting people for a rest. Kotchman is out already and we are already playing subpar… We are in danger of being swept and you sit one of your best players. This doesnt sound like Bobby cox is very smart to me.
DublinBrave
June 7th, 2009
4:01 pm
All you people bashing Frenchy don’t know squat. He’s one of the best players on this team. He is just in a little slump. That’s all. He has the most speed in the outfield, the best arm in the outfield and he is a natural talent. What other Brave made the cover of Sports Illustrated? Tht should mean something. He just needs to work through this slump. He should be batting in the 5th spot so he can protect Chipper.
Carroll Rogers
June 7th, 2009
4:01 pm
attendance was 33,428
Braves Fan 88
June 7th, 2009
4:02 pm
Wayne why don’t you STFU! You know what I said was right. Hanson was hyped as being ready right now. If you can go back and find anyone besides me who tried to lower expectations then go ahead. This is another great lesson in why we should never overhype a prospect. If that lesson upsets you, I can live happily with that.
DirtyYuni
June 7th, 2009
4:02 pm
Kelly Johnson looks great. Dude is so consistent.
BravesFanChris24
June 7th, 2009
4:02 pm
Come on McCann!
bravos2249
June 7th, 2009
4:02 pm
Jerry Holcombe
You need to calm down and lay off the alcohol…The 1-2 hitters before today were 2-for something in this series and McLouth hit 3rd and had 1 hit.
wow
June 7th, 2009
4:02 pm
kelly johnson and francouer look overmatched i mean how bad can you be seriously dudes are scuffling bad
N Nine (Send Frenchy down)
June 7th, 2009
4:03 pm
someone has to be blackmailing Braves managementPaul Lentz
Good point, this would never happen in NY or Philly. Good to see our fans finally (quietly) booing him.
No MGR/MGMT would allow this to continue. Send him down
Wayne in Utah
June 7th, 2009
4:03 pm
Them Wayne….
Man, you caught me. A few years ago, I used to post as Brian Jordan and Reggie Sanders having a conversation after hours.
Coward….
Irrational Braves Fan
June 7th, 2009
4:03 pm
Dublin,
I got a feeling your optimism for Frenchy won’t be rewarded after you see the next round of comments.
Prez of Matt Diaz Fan Club
June 7th, 2009
4:03 pm
DublinBrave: Apparently being on the cover of Sports Illustrated can actually be a bad thing. Read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sports_Illustrated_Cover_Jinx
BravesFanChris24
June 7th, 2009
4:03 pm
Ugh. Foul.
Prattvillenolzfan
June 7th, 2009
4:03 pm
I don’t need credentials to state my opinion…
I’ve never claimed to be an expert.
Just like you don’t need credentials to state YOUR opinion.
Too many times, when a change is made, the team catches fire.
Yes I’ll give you the point that Cox continually changes the line-up. However IT ISN’T working, so just because it’s not working, doesn’t mean he’s off the hook. In fact it’s just the opposite.
You are the HEAD PERSON. IT BEGINS AND STOPS WITH YOU.
PEOPLE LOOK UP TO YOU TO LEAD.
IF YOUR LINE-UP ISN’T WORKING, THEN YOU ARE DOING SOMETHING WRONG
One doesn’t need to be an “expert” to enjoy something.
I’m certainly no expert on women, but I sure do enjoy being around them.
You ought to try it one day.
BravesFanChris24
June 7th, 2009
4:03 pm
McCann!
braves
June 7th, 2009
4:03 pm
we should keep MAC as pinch hitter, he is good
Prez of Matt Diaz Fan Club
June 7th, 2009
4:04 pm
Yeah baby
wow
June 7th, 2009
4:04 pm
why was mac on the bench when we couldent score runs i mean another reason bobby shouldent be manager he is soo stupid
Goldenglove002
June 7th, 2009
4:04 pm
There we go Mr. Mac
Mixxo
June 7th, 2009
4:04 pm
MMMMAAACCC!
DirtyYuni
June 7th, 2009
4:04 pm
OKAY MAC!
joe
June 7th, 2009
4:04 pm
I have a man crush on McCann
DCBrave
June 7th, 2009
4:04 pm
Hanson Smanson-
you didin’t copy all my post. i said adjustment’s coming. give him some more innings to adjust. even the great mad dog needed two years.
BravesFanChris24
June 7th, 2009
4:04 pm
Maybe just maybe, we can get this
Come on guys!
richbrave
June 7th, 2009
4:04 pm
If anyone wonders why the minor leagues are called MINOR, today’s pitching exhibition should school you. The kid pitched well, excellently for a AAA start, but the difference in the ML’s and AAA is a canyon wide and deep. He’s gonna’ be a great one I believe, but he’s gotta’ get schooled and learn. HANSON will make ML hitters pay one day, but this is not that day.
bravos2249
June 7th, 2009
4:04 pm
Braves Fan 88
Now I will see I didn’t expect Hanson to fire a shutout but I didn’t foresee 7 runs…nonetheless 3 2-run-homers.
NORRIS
June 7th, 2009
4:04 pm
MCCANNNNNN. Thats why you play one of your best hitters and not have him on the bench you guys……….
Frenchy is a complete joke.
June 7th, 2009
4:04 pm
Go McCann too bad he wasnt in the in the 5th spot today
N8
June 7th, 2009
4:05 pm
Hanson got in trouble when AHEAD in the count. Kyle Davies used to do the same thing. Kyle didn’t have an “out pitch” that he could put batters away, when ahead.
By all accounts of his “stuff” (from Bobby, Roger and even DOB this spring), Hanson does NOT lack any “out pitches” to put guys away.
Just going to have to learn when to use which ones, and definitely locate better against major league hitters.
Like I said earlier, judging on his past “adjustments” after slow starts at each level, he appears fully capable of adujusting in the “Show”.
Nice job by McCann. Everybody still remembering the run that didn’t get pushed across after Chipper’s triple?
Prez of Matt Diaz Fan Club
June 7th, 2009
4:05 pm
Optimism is the new pessimism
Doc Holiday
June 7th, 2009
4:05 pm
Our All Stars watch:
KJ + JF = 0 for 8
Way to guy guys………..you do belong here…………a losers team.
Johnny Quest
June 7th, 2009
4:05 pm
wwwooooooooooooooooooooooo
bravos2249
June 7th, 2009
4:05 pm
CHIPPER WILL HIT AGAIN!!!!
I HOPE HE GETS A HIT….A DOUBLE WOULD BE GREAT…but knowing the brewers they will walk him….A******holes.
lagnamor
June 7th, 2009
4:05 pm
Let’s Go Bravesssss!!
Wayne in Utah
June 7th, 2009
4:06 pm
Braves Fan 88
I am sorry, I misunderstood you in the beginning. I thought you were just a negative nellie. Instead, you are just another ordinary idiot.
Now, I feel better….
Goldenglove002
June 7th, 2009
4:06 pm
So who is left on the Bench now? Diroy Hernandez is it, right? Braves really needed to drop someone out of the bullpen to make up for the loss of Kotchman. Our pitchers pretty much have to hit now.
Frenchy is a complete joke.
June 7th, 2009
4:06 pm
i def think they will walk chipper if there is a runner on
bravos2249
June 7th, 2009
4:06 pm
N8
He has that curve ball, but he seemed to loose it in the 5th and 6th.
DirtyYuni
June 7th, 2009
4:07 pm
Loaf is the most apathetic lookin’ dude. He looked so surprised when he hit that ball.
Frenchy is a complete joke.
June 7th, 2009
4:07 pm
Ok McLouth time for your 1st big ATL hit!!!!!
pryguy
June 7th, 2009
4:07 pm
Never said opinions are right or wrong. Coming on here calling people’s ability to do their job when they are considered one of the greatest ever to hold that position seems a little idiotic. Cox has actually handled the bullpen well. He utilizes Gonzo and Soriano to share closing duties. This has led to many Brave wins, and one situation when Soriano came on to save Gonzo’s mess. Worked out pretty well.
Again, his handling of the lineup is something he has done a lot over the past few years. He is trying to find a mix that works, but when the hitting has been lacking altogether, the lineup seems to be a moot point, right? If Chipper and Mac are the only ones stroking, what is he to do? More people have a say with the Frenchy situation than you think, I am sure.
Again, Frenchy situation seems to be what it is. He is giving him a chance to hit out of it, and it will not be given very soon IMO. I also think his trade value would be tarnished completely with a benching or demotion. Cox’s hands seem to be tied with this situation and I think there is more to it than we know.
Cox’s in-game strategy is something that can be questioned for sure. Every manager can be questioned on in-game decisions. As a fan, and you seem to be quite the educated one, it’s easy to sit here and second guess decisions after the fact. As they say, hindsight is 20/20. Does Cox make poor decisions in game? Absolutely. Does his work over the course of 162 game schedule enhance this organization? Again, it is my opinion that he does enhance this team.
My credentials are merely being a fan for many years. But I do not come on here and rant and rave about calling for peoples’s jobs or knowing all the answers to this team’s problems. I leave that up to the professionals. Doesn’t mean I agree with all that they do, but we have to be understanding that they are most likely playing percentages or past experiences that have been successful. But that seems to be too deep for some on here to even comprehend.
Doc Holiday
June 7th, 2009
4:07 pm
We just have 2 position player winners…………both of them account or all the RBI today………easy to notice who the players are.
braves
June 7th, 2009
4:08 pm
ok, give a 3 run shot Mcclown.!!
lagnamor
June 7th, 2009
4:08 pm
Nate!!!!
bravos2249
June 7th, 2009
4:08 pm
WHAT NOW MCLOUTH HATER!
BJones
June 7th, 2009
4:08 pm
MCLOUTH….
Prez of Matt Diaz Fan Club
June 7th, 2009
4:08 pm
OMG
Goldenglove002
June 7th, 2009
4:08 pm
Welcome to Atlanta, Nate!
BravesFanChris24
June 7th, 2009
4:08 pm
McLouth!
Welcome to Atlanta Nate McLouth!
lagnamor
June 7th, 2009
4:08 pm
Payday!
DirtyYuni
June 7th, 2009
4:08 pm
ATTAWAY NATE!!!!!!! Man, that feels a little better.
Jeff321
June 7th, 2009
4:08 pm
Looks like Mr. CLOUT came through with a big double, eh!
AndyC
June 7th, 2009
4:08 pm
NMac coming through!
braves
June 7th, 2009
4:08 pm
WREN is amaizing, hanson off the hook!!!!!!
Mixxo
June 7th, 2009
4:09 pm
Nice Nate!
Nice baby!
Prez of Matt Diaz Fan Club
June 7th, 2009
4:09 pm
That hit should be awarded to Wren.
Frenchy is a complete joke.
June 7th, 2009
4:09 pm
Yes!!! I called it!!!
Paul Lentz
June 7th, 2009
4:09 pm
Well, even though I picked McCann for my fantasy baseball team today, he still gives me 3 points with that at bat, plus he may come up again, lol. I didnt expect Chipper to play today so I didnt pick him for my fantasy team. I picked McCann because I didnt think that Bobby would rest McCann with Chipper not in the line-up. However, it was my misfortune to get it totally wrong. I picked Zimmerman instead to play 3rd on my fantasy team today (1-3 single, walk….which equals only 2 points).
WOW, way to go Nate McLouth!!!!!!!!! Big hit for the Bravos.
Heath (Cleveland)
June 7th, 2009
4:09 pm
McLouth’s first big hit as a Brave…
N8
June 7th, 2009
4:09 pm
There’s your RBI for McLouth. And Tommy is “off the hook”. No loss in his debut.
Now. With McCann and G. Anderson BOTH used up off the bench, I’ve got to seriously consider walking BOTH Escobar and Chipper to load the bases to get to Diaz and Francoeur.
Outside the box? Yup. But why pitch to these two guys?
N Nine (Send Frenchy down)
June 7th, 2009
4:09 pm
Guys, I’m very satisfied with McLouth battling leadoff, while Chipper gets his spot back.
=)
Mitchell
June 7th, 2009
4:10 pm
Nate McLouth, you are not worthy of being a Brave unless you get a hit right here and now…
oh wait, he did.
Take that Boston Dove player.
If Yunel doesn’t get a hit here this game is going to like 18 innings. Or they’ll just score three runs off Gonzo and we’ll lose.
lagnamor
June 7th, 2009
4:10 pm
Bobby loves the F word….
pryguy
June 7th, 2009
4:10 pm
What is Cox doing!!?? Pinch hitting McCann there!?
wow
June 7th, 2009
4:10 pm
yunel just missed a double
Epinephrine
June 7th, 2009
4:10 pm
Man I sure wish Kelly were still leading off!
Frank from KS
June 7th, 2009
4:11 pm
Breaves Fan 88
I agree. I was (and still am) sick of all the damn Hanson talk.
He’s not God everybody. *rolls eyes*
McFann's Sister
June 7th, 2009
4:11 pm
McFann will be really happy now!
Go Braves!!!
bravos2249
June 7th, 2009
4:11 pm
N8
I agree with you…but after I’d have my pitcher walk 2 straight guys I’d bring in another guy, cause it’s hard to throw strikes after IBB;in two guys
DirtyYuni
June 7th, 2009
4:11 pm
Time for the 8th inning Trivia Question.
Name the two players leading the team in GIDPs. (Hint: It’s not hard)
BravesFanChris24
June 7th, 2009
4:11 pm
Escobar!
BJones
June 7th, 2009
4:11 pm
Yunel!!!!!
Goldenglove002
June 7th, 2009
4:11 pm
YUNEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jeff321
June 7th, 2009
4:11 pm
Where are the Escobar haters now? Step right up!
Mixxo
June 7th, 2009
4:11 pm
Yuni!!!!!!!!!!
bravos2249
June 7th, 2009
4:11 pm
ESCOBAR!
Frenchy is a complete joke.
June 7th, 2009
4:12 pm
RALLY!!!!
DirtyYuni
June 7th, 2009
4:12 pm
WOOHOO!!!!!!
braves
June 7th, 2009
4:12 pm
good speed nate
Doc Holiday
June 7th, 2009
4:12 pm
Well, looks like we have another man on the team………..that adds up to 3
Goldenglove002
June 7th, 2009
4:12 pm
Chipper needs a double for the cycle….
jOEBRAVE
June 7th, 2009
4:12 pm
Way to go McLouth, and Esco!!!! Now get that putrid sonofabitch Failcouer off this team!!!!!
wow
June 7th, 2009
4:12 pm
ohhhh but the second time he pulls it offfffff wow who waas expecting this now if we blow it then gonzo should be released id go with soriono personally
Goldenglove002
June 7th, 2009
4:12 pm
BOOOOOOO
kirkinga
June 7th, 2009
4:12 pm
Take that you Escobar bashers! Told you people this game wasn’t over!
Heath (Cleveland)
June 7th, 2009
4:12 pm
Can we get a double from Hoss for the cycle?
Braves Paisan
June 7th, 2009
4:12 pm
YUNI !!! MY MAN !!!!
DirtyYuni
June 7th, 2009
4:12 pm
Serious bat flip there from ole dirty yunel…
bravos2249
June 7th, 2009
4:12 pm
BOOOOOOO!
Chipper is trying for the cycle and they walk him…that is UNCLASSY!
Frenchy is a complete joke.
June 7th, 2009
4:12 pm
Ok guys lets get Gonzo started in the Bullpen and close this one out.
lagnamor
June 7th, 2009
4:12 pm
Love Nate’s speed….
MFin04
June 7th, 2009
4:12 pm
Welcome to the Braves Nate McLouth!!!!
BravesFanChris24
June 7th, 2009
4:12 pm
Walking Chipper LOL!
Carroll Rogers
June 7th, 2009
4:12 pm
everybody on their feet and booing for the walk to chipper. love it.
McLouth of the South
June 7th, 2009
4:13 pm
Blown save beeyatch
Irrational Braves Fan
June 7th, 2009
4:13 pm
Where are you idiots who gave up on the Braves during the game? Down two runs and you want to blow things up and start over. Fools.
Heath (Cleveland)
June 7th, 2009
4:13 pm
Boooo!
N8
June 7th, 2009
4:13 pm
“I agree. I was (and still am) sick of all the damn Hanson talk. He’s not God everybody. *rolls eyes*” Frank
Yeah. But at least he’s not old enough to have hung out with god either. Like Glavine.
braves
June 7th, 2009
4:13 pm
walk diaz and get to frenchy!!!!!!!!!! would be great.
Jerry Holcombe
June 7th, 2009
4:13 pm
There it is Bravo2249, that is all I wanted to know. McLouth’s first rbi in his 3rd game, 4th AB. And about the “lay off the alcohol” comment, I wasn’t drinking. But, if I were, would anyone here blame me with the way this team has played? I think not,
Tomahawkin
June 7th, 2009
4:13 pm
ESCO representing!!!! Nice…
Tomahawkin' Again (like it's 1991-2005)
June 7th, 2009
4:13 pm
If I’m the Brewers, I walk Diaz to get to Mr. O-fer
monty
June 7th, 2009
4:13 pm
I think Chipper likes batting 3rd!
Geoff
June 7th, 2009
4:13 pm
the worst thing that could have happened there actually was the advance on the throw… none the less… time to close this one out !
BravesFanChris24
June 7th, 2009
4:13 pm
I guess they don’t want to give up the cycle, shaking my head.
Soph
June 7th, 2009
4:13 pm
Man, this is fun. Come on Diaz!
Goldenglove002
June 7th, 2009
4:13 pm
Free Swinging Diaz looked horrid on that
Frenchy is a complete joke.
June 7th, 2009
4:13 pm
Come on Diaz bust this game wide open!!!!!!! make em pay for walking Hoss !!!!
TIC
June 7th, 2009
4:14 pm
The worst thing now in todays game is the Frenchy has one more chance to choke…
braves
June 7th, 2009
4:14 pm
hope soriano close’s. don’t want a crazy 9th with gonzo.
pryguy
June 7th, 2009
4:14 pm
PRATTVILLE?? SOS???
How did Bobby handle the bullpen to keep the game at 7-5 and within striking distance? Did he do well? How about utilizing McCann off the bench, or the lineup he varied up for today? Suffice for your liking? Oh how much changes and people run away so quickly on here.
Jerry Holcombe
June 7th, 2009
4:14 pm
So much for Chipper hitting for the cycle.
jOEBRAVE
June 7th, 2009
4:14 pm
I am going to say something I never say, But Jeff Failcouer I HATE YOUR STINKIN NO TALENT GUTS, get your ass off of my team!!!!
LuisG
June 7th, 2009
4:14 pm
So, now, is this the spot were they intentionally walk Hoss??
Paul Lentz
June 7th, 2009
4:14 pm
WAY TO GO ESCOBAR!!!!!!!!! That is why we’ll tolerate those errors he makes on simple plays. He makes great plays, and he is a clutch hitter.
If we ever need a dominant outing from Gonzalez…it is TODAY.
bravos2249
June 7th, 2009
4:14 pm
Jerry Holcombe
Nope I don’t think they would…lol
DCBrave
June 7th, 2009
4:14 pm
Macha insists giving us the game.
we better take it.
Braves Fan 88
June 7th, 2009
4:15 pm
Ok Wayne, I feel real bad about that.
FaninFaytown
June 7th, 2009
4:15 pm
i would probably intentionally walk diaz here
braves
June 7th, 2009
4:15 pm
thay just showed GONZO warmig up., we’ll go to the 13th inning.
Mitchell
June 7th, 2009
4:15 pm
What is the deal with that taking the helmet off the guy thing when they get in the dugout? That is incredibly gay.
Game’s not over here. Only a bomb here by Matty will help me get over the Chipper walk. I want me a cycle.
Come on Gonzo.
bigmacattack
June 7th, 2009
4:15 pm
keep the one run lead gonzo!
Goldenglove002
June 7th, 2009
4:15 pm
Ok, Mike Gonzalez’s turn (I assume)
pryguy
June 7th, 2009
4:15 pm
Look at this, nothing but positive comments flowing out!! The season is SAVED!!!!!
BravesFanChris24
June 7th, 2009
4:15 pm
Whew. Lower part of the order for Brewers.
MFin04
June 7th, 2009
4:16 pm
Soriano warming up for the 1-run save?
David..(Athens, AL)
June 7th, 2009
4:16 pm
diaz just too much of a free swinger … swing at a lot of balls WAY OUT OF THE STRIKE ZONE!
DirtyYuni
June 7th, 2009
4:16 pm
Yunel looks like a latino Ken doll with that hair.
bravos2249
June 7th, 2009
4:16 pm
another 3 run 8th….what’s up with these guys?
Let’s hope we stay hot when the Pirates come to town….It’s nice that our potential 1-4 hitters all got hits today and Chipper has 5 rbi, in a game some thought he wouldn’t play in.
N8
June 7th, 2009
4:16 pm
Hmmm. Right again. Should have walked Escobar too.
It’s not very often that you find a manager willing to give you the game. Thanks Ken
Prattvillenolzfan
June 7th, 2009
4:17 pm
Hey PRYguy
Why was McCann on bench to begin with……………..
Coach ( Moon Pie, Anyone?)
June 7th, 2009
4:17 pm
Why have the Braves scored eight runs today? Because it took our brilliant manager seeing BACK TO BACK SHUT OUTS before he put Chipper back in the three hole where he belongs.
Why is Jeff Francoeur still in the line up? Because our BRILLIANT Manager still can’t get past his own flawed loyalty to his players.
Why did Tommy Hanson pitch today instead of Tommy Glavine? Money, undeniable talent and the unchecked EGO of Frank Wren.
Should the Braves win this game, our Braves will still be a game under .500 thanks to the INCOMPETENCE of both BOBBY COX and FRANK WREN.
I’m happy that the offense has picked up the pitching for a change. But BEAVIS ( BOBBY COX ) and BUTTHEAD ( FRANK WREN ) are holding this franchise hostage. One needs to retire and the other should be canned.
Irrational Braves Fan
June 7th, 2009
4:17 pm
I’m with you pryguy. These knee-jerk “fans” are getting absurd with their bi-polar approach to baseball. Stay logical my friend.
brewdawg
June 7th, 2009
4:17 pm
Chance for the cycle or not, you don’t pitch to Chipper there. Not in a one-run game. Brewers made the absolute right baseball move.
Soph
June 7th, 2009
4:17 pm
Gonzy! Let’s do this!
bravos2249
June 7th, 2009
4:17 pm
Soriano pitched last night…Gonzo hasn’t pitched in awhile…the last Cubs game I think.
Wes
June 7th, 2009
4:17 pm
tomahawkin: LMFAO
DCBrave
June 7th, 2009
4:17 pm
i hope soriano closes it but he was used yesterday. it has to be gonzo.
the hope of the braves nation rests in your hands mr hanson
June 7th, 2009
4:17 pm
i know the pirates couldnt have afforded it but an outfield of bay, mclouth, and nady would be one of the best in the game…
Paul Lentz
June 7th, 2009
4:17 pm
I would rather have a right fielder who isnt exactly the greatest fielder in the world, yet hits in the clutch like Escobar does……than to have someone like Franceour, who can field his position, yet kills every rally with his lack of clutch hitting.
bravos2249
June 7th, 2009
4:17 pm
Ok that gun is wrong…Gonzo does NOT throw 100…LOL
pryguy
June 7th, 2009
4:18 pm
prattville,
seriously? Why do you think dude?
DirtyYuni
June 7th, 2009
4:18 pm
Here’s a good stat:
Frenchy’s OBP is almost identical to JoJo Reyes’.
Mixxo
June 7th, 2009
4:18 pm
I’m not liking Diaz’s bat lately. Nope, not liking it at all. He’s better than this.
Waynes panties soaking squishy squishy really wet
June 7th, 2009
4:18 pm
Admitted liar and hypocrite calling other people names. You see it all from certain types. Go wring them panties out big boy. No matter how you spin it Tommy Hanson looked less than expected. The real liar is you who can’t admit that.
Steve from OH
June 7th, 2009
4:18 pm
Can we get a Pepperidge Blogs Remembers on the posts where Coach says that Hanson over Glavine was a good move?
NORRIS
June 7th, 2009
4:18 pm
lets see if we can hold on to this thing now.
Shamus Thacker
June 7th, 2009
4:18 pm
I’ve avoided calling him this all year. I’ve pulled for him as hard as anybody. Just like most of you, I’ve given him every chance to change my mind.
I can’t do it anymore. I’m fed up. I’m binging on Q and drinking too much. My bald spot is expanding by the day. I’m so ornery that my dog is interviewing other owners. My cat just flat-out left. My galfriend now has headaches on a regular basis. My tongue-holding is OVER!!
STENCHY SUCKS!!
TRADE HIM BY SUNDOWN OR RELEASE HIS AZZ!!
NO MORE STENCHY!! NO MORE STENCHY!! NO MORE STENCHY!!
AMEN DAMMITT!!
bravos2249
June 7th, 2009
4:18 pm
Paul Lentz
No let’s be honest..Jeff has tapered off on the D a little. lol
bravefaninok
June 7th, 2009
4:19 pm
Johnny Quest
June 7th, 2009
3:54 pm
Let’s do a blog wave, I’l start-WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
I think this wave helped(as much as Skip hated the wave)
DublinBrave
June 7th, 2009
4:19 pm
Irrational Braves fan and other Frenchy bashers, you don’t know Braves baseball if you think Frenchy isn’t the centerpiece of this team. Braves will build around him. You will see.
jOEBRAVE
June 7th, 2009
4:19 pm
Cmon Gonzo enhance that trade value
I smell a Gonzo, to Texas for Nelson Cruz trade coming, as long as Jon Daniels has to take Failcouer in the deal!!!
braves
June 7th, 2009
4:19 pm
don’t walk him
bravos2249
June 7th, 2009
4:19 pm
that was a strike.
BravesFanChris24
June 7th, 2009
4:19 pm
That was a strike!
Tomahawkin
June 7th, 2009
4:20 pm
Gonzo WTF!!!! Come On!
Jerry Holcombe
June 7th, 2009
4:20 pm
God, I do not like Gonzo
DCBrave
June 7th, 2009
4:20 pm
ok gonzo. no drama please.
MFin04
June 7th, 2009
4:20 pm
Gonzo 8 for 16 in 1-run saves. Bobby doesn’t read stat books though.
Frenchy is a complete joke.
June 7th, 2009
4:20 pm
omg here we go……..
braves
June 7th, 2009
4:20 pm
told you man, brewers have fundamentals, kendall can bunt.
kirkinga
June 7th, 2009
4:20 pm
Geez..here we go. Comeon Gonzo!
The Truth
June 7th, 2009
4:20 pm
Mike Gonzalez can’t be this team’s closer next year. Not for the money he will want.
Soph
June 7th, 2009
4:20 pm
Hmmm…this is kinda nerve-wracking.
Johnny Quest
June 7th, 2009
4:20 pm
Hold this lead so frenchy wont have to bat.
Frank from KS
June 7th, 2009
4:20 pm
N8
Ha, ha, ha.
pryguy
June 7th, 2009
4:20 pm
Irrational,
Appreciate it.
Braves Paisan
June 7th, 2009
4:20 pm
Did you hear Boog talking about whether it would have been “smart” for Yuni NOT to take second on his hit so as to make sure Chipper could swing? Ridiculous.
braves
June 7th, 2009
4:20 pm
he is high.
NORRIS
June 7th, 2009
4:20 pm
typical lead off walk for our relief pitchers.. grrrrrr
Prattvillenolzfan
June 7th, 2009
4:20 pm
but yes….I give credit where credit is due..
This is the kind of game we need to win.
Cox did push all of the right buttons. When you win, everything is fine. When you push the buttons and they don’t work, then that’s when the 2nd guessing begins.
I’ve never said I don’t like Cox…I think he’s been a wonderful and exceptional ambassador for Braves baseball. People tends to forget, HE is the one who built the team of the 90’s that SCHEURHOLZ got credit for.
All I’m saying is his time has passed. That’s not meant as a criticism, that’s not to be appreciative of everything he’s done…
Kinda like a certain football coach at my alma mater!!!!!!!!
AndyC
June 7th, 2009
4:20 pm
Gonzo looks like the Tasmanian Devil out there.
Tomahawkin
June 7th, 2009
4:20 pm
JoeBrave?
Co-Sign
Gonzo For Nellie Cruz is a good Idea!
bravos2249
June 7th, 2009
4:21 pm
jOEBRAVE
Texas did want him last year. And he does live there, or his family does. Very interesting. I like Gonzo though.
I’d like for him to throw strikes though too.
BravesFanChris24
June 7th, 2009
4:21 pm
Get Soriano up/in please
braves
June 7th, 2009
4:21 pm
GET HIM OUT and get soriano in.
the hope of the braves nation rests in your hands mr hanson
June 7th, 2009
4:21 pm
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
damn, gonzo…. if its not one thing with this club its another..
Daybed Wagmoe
June 7th, 2009
4:21 pm
brewdawg, you’re right — as much as I, along with the braves fans at the stadium, hate it, you don’t pitch to chipper with 1st base open.
boog sciambi asked joe simpson if yunel should’ve stayed at first base in order to make the brewers pitch to chipper. what do you guys think? i say no — even though reaching second takes the bat out of chipper’s hands, you don’t just park it at first to give chipper a chance to hit a double. that’s not how the game is played.
Jerry Holcombe
June 7th, 2009
4:21 pm
Gonzo is such a spaz with a 1-run lead.
pryguy
June 7th, 2009
4:21 pm
Oh no, here come to negative bloggers on the scene. Very shortly.
Waiting On Gonzo To Blow
June 7th, 2009
4:21 pm
Why must Gonzo always make it interesting?
BravesFanChris24
June 7th, 2009
4:21 pm
Nice DP!
Soph
June 7th, 2009
4:21 pm
YEAHHHHHHH! Marteeeeeeeeeeeeen!
AndyC
June 7th, 2009
4:22 pm
Get up Soriano.
braves
June 7th, 2009
4:22 pm
wow.good play pradito.
Tomahawkin
June 7th, 2009
4:22 pm
GOOD DP!!!!! Hell Yea
Braves Paisan
June 7th, 2009
4:22 pm
MARTEEEEEEN !!! MY MAN !!!!!!!!!!!!
DirtyYuni
June 7th, 2009
4:22 pm
Prado’s had a couple of those today. Great play.
Prattvillenolzfan
June 7th, 2009
4:22 pm
pryguy.
My 4:17 post was meant as a joke…I certainly know why……..
MFin04
June 7th, 2009
4:22 pm
So all the Martin Prado haters….he is a pretty darn good first baseman!!!
Goldenglove002
June 7th, 2009
4:22 pm
Prado has really been coming along with his 1st base defense, just 1 more out!
Steve from OH
June 7th, 2009
4:22 pm
Bobby doesn’t read stat books though.
Ha! Best line of the day, especially coming from you, numbletard. Bobby and Wren know more about baseball stats than any on this board, and I do seem to recall an interview with a Braves FO member who says that the Braves have their own internal stats that they create to evaluate players. Try again, dipsh!t.
Jerry Holcombe
June 7th, 2009
4:22 pm
For those that have been complaining about Prado at first base, take that!!!
DCBrave
June 7th, 2009
4:22 pm
if history repeats, somebody is going to second, then gonzo either surrenders a run or strikes somebody out.
the hope of the braves nation rests in your hands mr hanson
June 7th, 2009
4:22 pm
the blog wave is officially dead….
NO MORE BOBBY
June 7th, 2009
4:22 pm
GONZALEZ IS A CLOWN!
His rocking back and forth bit is old. JUST GET PEOPLE OUT DUDE!!!
Jeff321
June 7th, 2009
4:22 pm
Prado makes that double play like a regular “skilled” first baseman.. And its not the first time either.
braves
June 7th, 2009
4:22 pm
this guys has no HR but he can hit it out
Frenchy is a complete joke.
June 7th, 2009
4:22 pm
there we go!!!!! 1 more out Gonzo!!!! strike his a$$ out!!!
bravos2249
June 7th, 2009
4:22 pm
Prado is increasing his value by playing 1st better and better…he was a trip there last year but man he’s gotten better
Tomahawkin
June 7th, 2009
4:22 pm
If Everyone Thinks that was a good As.s DP? Then Give Me a Hell Yeah!!!
DCBrave
June 7th, 2009
4:22 pm
no, history did not repeat. good.
pryguy
June 7th, 2009
4:22 pm
And here returns the joyous fans/bloggers (which very well may be the same negative fans/bloggers). Tread carefully on here.
lagnamor
June 7th, 2009
4:23 pm
Prado great play…
BravesFanChris24
June 7th, 2009
4:23 pm
Hit the batter
Tomahawkin
June 7th, 2009
4:23 pm
Gonzo Looks Rusty… CheeseWhiz….!
MFin04
June 7th, 2009
4:23 pm
Soriano, in game now, you can only be lucky so many times with Gonzo.
Soph
June 7th, 2009
4:23 pm
Did that really hit him? I don’t think so!
Mixxo
June 7th, 2009
4:23 pm
Folks, Prado is playing some good first for a novice. That throw to 2nd isn’t easy for a righthander.
Nice play Marteeeen!
braves
June 7th, 2009
4:23 pm
becarefull with counsel, he is a GREAT hitter, with a lot of expirience.
Jerry Holcombe
June 7th, 2009
4:23 pm
That strike was high
Coach ( Moon Pie, Anyone?)
June 7th, 2009
4:24 pm
Even more proof of the flawed loyalty of Bobby Cox.
Mike Gonzalez instead of Rafael Soriano ? regardless of the outcome, this is a maalox moment thanks to the INCOMPETENCE of bobby Cox.
Goldenglove002
June 7th, 2009
4:24 pm
Gonzalez just likes to make things interesting, right????
Mitchell
June 7th, 2009
4:24 pm
What a Yunel Escobar lying bitch. You didn’t get hit. BS.
Craig Counsel’s gonna get smacked on his mouth if I have anything to say about it.
jOEBRAVE
June 7th, 2009
4:24 pm
Cmon Frank, Trade Gonzo top Texas, with Failcouer for Nelson Cruz!!!! do it NOW!!!!!!
BravesFanChris24
June 7th, 2009
4:24 pm
Two strikes at least.
Goldenglove002
June 7th, 2009
4:24 pm
Gonzalez just likes to make things interesting, right????
DirtyYuni
June 7th, 2009
4:24 pm
Anybody else feel like that ball didn’t hit him?
lagnamor
June 7th, 2009
4:24 pm
Damn, come on Rocker!
jOEBRAVE
June 7th, 2009
4:24 pm
Cmon Frank, Trade Gonzo to Texas, with Failcouer for Nelson Cruz!!!! do it NOW!!!!!!
braves
June 7th, 2009
4:24 pm
back up catcher stealing base.lol
Steve from OH
June 7th, 2009
4:24 pm
Yeah, Prado is a great 1B when he can’t even position himself correctly in a critical situation. Next question.
Daybed Wagmoe
June 7th, 2009
4:24 pm
WHAT A PLAY PRADO!!!!!!!!!!!
wow
June 7th, 2009
4:24 pm
nothing comes easy for us including a save and why are they letting that runner steal my god
Irrational Braves Fan
June 7th, 2009
4:24 pm
Dublin,
I am one of the few Frenchy apologists left. I was just stating that your optimism wasn’t going to be rewarded with this crew of “fans”. I’m on your side.
Soph
June 7th, 2009
4:24 pm
I agree Dirty Yuni. It bounced in the dirt.
Carroll Rogers
June 7th, 2009
4:24 pm
radar just said 96. is gonzo back?
BravesFanChris24
June 7th, 2009
4:24 pm
WOW! 96 for Gonzo.
Goldenglove002
June 7th, 2009
4:24 pm
jeez, 96 MPH
Waiting On Gonzo To Blow
June 7th, 2009
4:25 pm
Why is Bobby playing behind the runner at first all the time? That’s the tying run! Has the guy gone completely senile?
So is that good baseball?
DirtyYuni
June 7th, 2009
4:25 pm
96 from Gonzo. But not all that close.
braves
June 7th, 2009
4:25 pm
gonzo and frenchy to ttexas for andrew jones
Paul Lentz
June 7th, 2009
4:25 pm
Both Gonzalez and Soriano are free agents after this year. Soriano is making $6.4 mil, Gonzalez $3.5 mil. That’s $10 mil that the Braves could spend on a closer who isnt nearly as “shaky” as Gonzalez is. Soriano is decent, however paying a set up guy $6.4 mil is WAY too much. And I dont seeing Soriano as having the make up to be a full time closer. Some team is going to overpay for both of those guys. So why not let them both walk and sign a dependable closer?
Tomahawkin
June 7th, 2009
4:25 pm
Enter your comments hereMan Gonzo I pumped Up!!!
Soph
June 7th, 2009
4:25 pm
So nervous…
lagnamor
June 7th, 2009
4:25 pm
Braves Win!!!
DCBrave
June 7th, 2009
4:25 pm
well, history repeated afterall, but just strike out somebody pls.
BravesFanChris24
June 7th, 2009
4:25 pm
Braves Win!
Waiting On Gonzo To Blow
June 7th, 2009
4:25 pm
Gonzo bailed Bobby out on that one!
Goldenglove002
June 7th, 2009
4:26 pm
There we go, the Braves refuse to get swept
Tomahawkin
June 7th, 2009
4:26 pm
YESSSS…!!!! Hell Yeah!!!
Jerry Holcombe
June 7th, 2009
4:26 pm
Yea, 1 game salvaged
DirtyYuni
June 7th, 2009
4:26 pm
Phew. Way to get it done, Gonzo. Nice win.
Mitchell
June 7th, 2009
4:26 pm
Craig, go have a juice box. You little bitch.
Carroll Rogers
June 7th, 2009
4:26 pm
Jordan Schafer has a sore wrist from a swing he took Friday night. Not sure if it’s the same wrist that’s been bothering him, but chances are it is.
God
June 7th, 2009
4:26 pm
Your welcome
Frenchy is a complete joke.
June 7th, 2009
4:26 pm
YESSSS!!! great comeback!!!
Jeff321
June 7th, 2009
4:26 pm
Whew, Gonzo never makes it easy.. But, its nice to get a win!
Soph
June 7th, 2009
4:26 pm
Woop, woop! Great comeback. See everyone…it’s okay. Deep breath.
bravos2249
June 7th, 2009
4:26 pm
Gotta say Gonzo makes it interesting but more than not he can end it. He hasn’t sometimes but he’s a gamer.
bigmacattack
June 7th, 2009
4:26 pm
you’re always doing this mike … always .. save situation or not, you make it interesting.
just get em 1-2-3, makes it a whole lot easier.
braves
June 7th, 2009
4:26 pm
that was close again, i’m diabetic with gonzo.
Paul Lentz
June 7th, 2009
4:26 pm
Still, way to go Gonzalez. This was a VERY important win today. To score all those runs and still lose, would have been devastating. Now if we can get the Dodgers to help us out today, we’ll be only 5 out.
bravos2249
June 7th, 2009
4:27 pm
Carroll
let me guess. Was the swing on a homer?
Braves Paisan
June 7th, 2009
4:27 pm
Maybe this game is our tenth or twelfth “turnaround” win!
Mixxo
June 7th, 2009
4:27 pm
Great comeback win huh?
What I’M talkin’ about!
pryguy
June 7th, 2009
4:27 pm
what a win!! Well-constructed lineup by Bobby. He also made some good choices in relievers keeping this one close for us. Well done Chipper and company!
Tomahawkin
June 7th, 2009
4:27 pm
Other than the game at Citi field This was the Best Game of the Year!
Hell Yeah!!!
Coach ( Moon Pie, Anyone?)
June 7th, 2009
4:27 pm
Oop’s we won. Wow.
jOEBRAVE
June 7th, 2009
4:28 pm
Okay how bout this then, trade Failcouer straight up to the Red Sox since Smoltzy is so in love with the Pinnocchio lookin prick, for Josh Bard, and then deal Kelly Johnson, and Gonzo to texas for Cruz!!!! that will solcve three problems at once!!!!
N8
June 7th, 2009
4:28 pm
If I haven’t stated this yet, I really like Jim Powell. I listened to quite a few Brewers games last year (love Uecker), but honestly never really paid attention to him.
Would rather listen to him and Sutton ANY day of the week than any combination that includes Simpson.
But I always liked Sutton.
Nice win today. Chipper’s the MAN (as always when in the lineup), Prad with some nice defense, and Yunel with the big hit to pickup his team after his earlier error led to a run.
Look on the bright side. We won a game when our 5th starter started.
Paul Lentz
June 7th, 2009
4:28 pm
We have to take at least 3 of 4 from the Pirates this week. We need a sweep, but I’ll settle for 3 of 4.
Shamus Thacker
June 7th, 2009
4:28 pm
WOW, BMac Bat Day went down just as Bobby said!
bravos2249
June 7th, 2009
4:28 pm
In the words of Lou Brown regarding Schafer….( i like Schafer but this is funny)
“You may run like Mays, but you hit like s***.”
Bobby Is Brain Dead
June 7th, 2009
4:28 pm
So let’s all defend Bobby playing behind the runner and allowing the guy to go to second with the potential tying run.
I just want to hear the logic of putting the tying run in scoring position so you can play off the line.
That’s rediculous!
pryguy
June 7th, 2009
4:28 pm
Now it’s time for all the bloggers during the stretch of the game the Bravos were losing to change their blogging name. Well done Bravos!!! Keep grinding!
bravos2249
June 7th, 2009
4:28 pm
Shamus Thacker
That’s effin freaky…lol
Tomahawkin
June 7th, 2009
4:28 pm
Soph!!!
Woop, Woop, Yeah! Its time for JagerBombs!!!!
Supes
June 7th, 2009
4:29 pm
N8 & Paul Lentz, some good comments from both of you today.
Paul Lentz, you are beating the dead horse with Jeff F. Everyone knows he’s the weakest position player in the lineup as far as hitting is concerned. He’s an out making machine. He should be hitting 8th in ANY Braves lineup but isn’t.
N8, Right on to defend Tommy Hanson’s stuff. You can tell that he’s got potential and he just needs a start or two. The stuff is there. No question. 4 quality pitches. Mid 90’s fastball. He’ll be alright. Just needs the experience at this level.
Glad Chipper had the day he did so he can SHUT some of you UP. I swear some don’t appreciate Chipper Jones. I guess you will 3 years from now when he’s retired. Yeah I hear you, the big money contract versus his age and health, but the guy is a future HOF professional hitter. He helps the team a lot more than he hurts it. Yet he still gets criticized on this blog. Ungrateful and unappreciative so called fans. Oh well, I bet you are praising him today.
Great quality at bat by B-Mac (off the bench), clutch hit by Nate McLouth and Yunel.
Yunel can be a great player, if he just keeps his head on his shoulders and plays hard everyday.
Gonzo with the save.
Well, a great team win. It wasn’t pretty, but they made the comeback.
Like Boog pointed out…You gotta get on a roll here, BRUTAL 12 game stretch coming up.
Let’s go Dodgers tonight (beat the Phils)
kirkinga
June 7th, 2009
4:29 pm
Braves win…that’s all that matters folks. All this other stuff was a bunch of space-wasting b.s.
This was a big win, a needed win. This is twice in a week that the Braves have shown they can come back from a multi-run deficit. Ok so the Hanson or Glavine debate goes unsettled today, who cares, the most important thing is the win.
jOEBRAVE
June 7th, 2009
4:29 pm
Just put Diory in there at 2B he can’t be any worse than Kelly!!!!
Tomahawkin
June 7th, 2009
4:29 pm
Bravos2249…
You are still On That Major League…LOL!!!
DublinBrave
June 7th, 2009
4:29 pm
Joe-not-so-Brave you are disgusting. You can’t hold a water bucket for Frenchy and I think you are just jealous because he’s a Braves star. Just because he’s slumping a little lately does not mean he isn’t going to break out this year. He has too much talent not to. He will replace Chipper as the leader of the team. Wait you will see. Now stop being so crude you loser.
Bobby Is Brain Dead
June 7th, 2009
4:30 pm
“pryguy
June 7th, 2009
4:27 pm
what a win!! Well-constructed lineup by Bobby. He also made some good choices in relievers keeping this one close for us. Well done Chipper and company!”
What an idiot this guy is! lmao
McLouth of the South
June 7th, 2009
4:30 pm
1-0 when Hanson pitches. HOF here he comes…
keylargo
June 7th, 2009
4:30 pm
MFin09, the only thing that is horribly sad here is you. StevefromOH
OOOOHHHRAHHHH!!!! We’re together on that Negative Nellie!!
Nothing is better than runs in the Bottom of the 8th and a save in the top of the 9th.
Must have been all that great strategy by the manager.
Jeff Bennett looked good. No runs and 4 outs in his inning
bravos2249
June 7th, 2009
4:30 pm
I’d think the Braves could trade kelly easier than Frenchy…but IMO if you can only get rid of one..sobeit we can continue with both.
C's
June 7th, 2009
4:30 pm
Schafer’s wrist is exactly why he should have been DL’d instead of sent down.
Daybed Wagmoe
June 7th, 2009
4:30 pm
WHAT A WIN!!!!!!!!! YEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MEB
June 7th, 2009
4:31 pm
Wayne in Utah… blogging with the in-game bunch only results in loss of brain cells. Just wait til well after the game. Much better crowd!
N8… dude, your sense of humor is really improving. Not only that, I’ve agreed with every one of your posts today. WOW!!!
Great win by the Braves today. Wish I could’ve been there. That’s the kind of win that can really motivate this team.
GO BRAVES!!!
Shamus Thacker
June 7th, 2009
4:31 pm
I didn’t see the end of the game because of Stenchy!
I stopped watching in disgust after his final at-bat…
DAMN HIM!!
a643dp
June 7th, 2009
4:32 pm
we need to start spinning chipper around and around after every game and send him home dizzy. That seems to be the secret to a 4-4 2HR, 3rd, BB 5 RBI game.
keylargo
June 7th, 2009
4:32 pm
Chipper’s slugging % had to sky rocket today.
NO MORE BOBBY
June 7th, 2009
4:32 pm
DOB – Is Gonzo back? Cmon! The guy is all over the place and a nervous wreck on the mound.
Steve from OH
June 7th, 2009
4:32 pm
MEB, I need to take your advice, my friend.
bravos2249
June 7th, 2009
4:32 pm
Tomahawkin
When I was watching it the other night, and I saw that part it straight up made me think of Schafer ( Willie Mays Hayes) and Andruw (Cerrano).
Because in batting practice when Cerrano kept hitting fastballs out and then they tole the BP pitcher to throw breaking pitches, it straight up reminded me of Andruw/Frenchy.
jOEBRAVE
June 7th, 2009
4:33 pm
Jeff The EPIC FAILCOUER!!!!!!
BravesFanChris24
June 7th, 2009
4:33 pm
I think this may help the confidence. That comeback win against Cubs could have been a turn around, but after that was the rain out and a buzz saw named Yovani Gallardo. McLouth looks like he’ll get back to hitting. Understandable from missing two games via rain out and then being traded to a new team.
Rough outing for Hanson, but that’s fine, I think he’ll come back with adjustments. Lets go get the Pirates!
McLouth V McCutchen!
Braves Fan 88
June 7th, 2009
4:33 pm
After the Schafer debacle and today’s Hanson go-fer ball exhibition, never again should any prospect be hyped to the hilt. Told ya so back in Spring Training!! I’m out!
brewdawg
June 7th, 2009
4:33 pm
Very satisfying victory, to say the least. N8 can be taken off suicide watch for another day at least.
lagnamor
June 7th, 2009
4:34 pm
Agree N8 on Powell and Sutton. Both are #1 in my book. I turn the radio on and the mute on TV.
jOEBRAVE
June 7th, 2009
4:34 pm
Jeff Pinnocchionose Failcouer!!!!
jmart1951
June 7th, 2009
4:35 pm
How in the world does Cox bat Francouer 5th in the order today? Has he not been watching Francouer play lately?
McClouth had a good day leading off but what about leading of Prado and moving McClouth to 4th in the order. Prado makes contact and I believe he is getting ready to go on a hot hitting streak.
DublinBrave
June 7th, 2009
4:35 pm
Supe and Irrational Brave are right. Frenchy is good. I think he’s the best player on the team at present. You people look at one little slump and bash him.
JoeBrave is so wrong about Frenchy that he must not know anything about baseball. He should just go back to horseshoes and cleaning stables.
Insta Blogger
June 7th, 2009
4:36 pm
Damn them, damn them all to hellllllllllllllllllll
BravesFanChris24
June 7th, 2009
4:36 pm
I’ll be rooting for the Dodgers to win tonight. Braves are only 5.5 back now ~_~
BravesFanChris24
June 7th, 2009
4:37 pm
Mets won today though.
Epinephrine
June 7th, 2009
4:37 pm
Can’t wait for Infante and Kotch to get back. Gotta figure at the very latest, Infante will be playing right field for Jeff (and perhaps eventually Jordan will relieve him out there). Those two being back also allows us to put either Omar or Prado at 2B during Kelly’s invariable funks. This team could be pretty good once we have more options in RF and 2B-especially RF.
But wow what a win today. Absolutely no doubt that without McLouth, we lose today. Drawing that two out walk (and getting on for Chipper’s blast), and hitting that double made all the difference in the world.
Also nice to McCann getting his stroke back. This could be a fun week against the Pirates. If we can get KK the win, you gotta feel good about our chances with Lowe, JJ, and Javy, all coming up.
Insta Blogger
June 7th, 2009
4:37 pm
look at what I wrote:
Boo boo kitty f***
WAAAAAAAA
Tomahawkin
June 7th, 2009
4:37 pm
WES, Oh You Damn Right!!!
Man I have a bad A..s Hangover from last night…
Patron + Wine is Not Good…!!!
Paul Lentz
June 7th, 2009
4:38 pm
DublinBrave……….you are simply INSANE if you think that Jeff Franceour is a “star”. He simply is not a very good Major League hitter. Sure, he can play right field. But he cant hit worth sh__.
You said, “sure he is struggling a little”, lol. LITTLE? How about for the past 2 years. 11 homers last year, 4 this year…..are not statistics that a “star” puts up there. If he was just starting his career, then I would say, “give him a chance”. However this is his 4th full season. Plus you have to consider what he will be asking for in arbitration next year. That is why there is such an “uproar” over Franceour. All hype, no production.
DublinBrave
June 7th, 2009
4:38 pm
Joe Brave is an ignoramus. You watch as Frency gets on a hitting streak. Then you’ll have to eat your foul words. You are probably a teenager on your mom’s computer. Run now big boy this blog is for people that understand baseball.
Johnny Quest
June 7th, 2009
4:38 pm
I’ll take full credit for the win having started the blog wave in the top of the 8th.
LETS GO DODGERS
June 7th, 2009
4:39 pm
Here we Big blue!
Gonna get them Phillies!
Hey Hey, Joe Torre, you are da man!
kirkinga
June 7th, 2009
4:39 pm
Oddly enough, the Braves home record is starting to look better than it did a few weeks ago.
Mitchell
June 7th, 2009
4:39 pm
Am I the only who’s just happy they won? Not the greatest game I’ve ever seen.
I guess I could be more enthused.
I went to game two of the Cubs series with my friendly Cub fan who is the only Cub fan on Earth who is not a flaming douche and it wasn’t until the next day that I got over my Cub hatred that I realized it was actually a pretty good game.
I was satisfied to just take at it as a close one that went the other day until the abysmal and mostly forgettable games that followed.
There are different types of loses. I don’t care about the Brewers. We can beat them. You can’t play like we did the last two days. Unacceptable. Gotta be more mentally tough.
Good thing Chipper decided to be Chipper today.
Tomahawkin
June 7th, 2009
4:40 pm
Bravos2249….!
I hope that Your Watching Major League will give this team an Omen…! I hope we get hot and get back to the Playoffs….!
Hee Haw!!!!
Paul Lentz
June 7th, 2009
4:41 pm
Bottom line, I want the Braves to put players out there who will help us win. I challenge any of you Jeff Franceour supporters out there to show me some CONCRETE proof that having Franceour in the batting order helps the Braves win.
Shamus Thacker
June 7th, 2009
4:41 pm
Hanson had good stuff. It was more a case of the Brewers’ good hitting than bad pitching by the kid… I was more than satisified with his poise and confidence as well as his pitching.
Cuck-a-Too
June 7th, 2009
4:42 pm
it’d be nice if Gonzalez would just once close a game without letting someone into scoring position.
LETS GO DODGERS
June 7th, 2009
4:42 pm
Kapow, bang bang, them Phillies are dead tonight!
Big blue is gonna rule!
Paul Lentz
June 7th, 2009
4:42 pm
DublinBrave……..please define what you think the definition of a “slump” is. How long has to pass before a “slump” turns into “not very good hitter”?
DublinBrave
June 7th, 2009
4:43 pm
Paul Lentz, you don’t know what you are talking about if you think he’s just hype. Like Bobby Cox has said so many times, Frenchy is just pressing a little right now. He’s been hitting lasers right at people. A few inches here or there and Frenchy would be batting at least 300 if not 325. If he’s not the best on the team then why do so many say “how Frenchy goes, so go the Braves”? Other than Chipper, who is better than Frenchy to become the centerpiece of this new team?
Chop Chop
June 7th, 2009
4:44 pm
Was this game as satisfying as the comeback win against the Cubs on Wednesday?
These kinds of wins are always fun. Nice to see McLouth (it is spelled M-c-L-o-u-t-h) get a big hit. (McCann gets a lot of big hits and ain’t new, so screw him…hahaha.) Great ballgame from Chipper. Hanson got hammered as he went along, but he’s a rook. He got his first one out of the way. He’ll always remember that he didn’t lose it.
Lastly, it was also nice to see a reliever (Villanueva) for the third time in the series. He was a little tired, our guys had seen him pitch and we took advantage of the circumstances.
Prattvillenolzfan
June 7th, 2009
4:44 pm
Don’t want to piss in pryguy’s kool-aid….It was a great game today, the Braves won,
McCann came through in clutch (but why does he have to sit EVERY DAY GAME)
Gonzalez reminds me more and more of Mitch Williams.
3 shutout innings by the relievers (although 4 shutout innings would’ve been better!!!)
Hanson will be just fine, I believe Wren made the right decision (although it was not handled properly)
Irrational Braves Fan
June 7th, 2009
4:44 pm
Now hold on Dublin, Frenchy is nowhere near the best player on this team. And you can’t deny his struggles over the last two years. This isn’t a little slump he’s in. I really like Frenchy, but he has yet to show improvements after a hot start to the year. It looks like he’s reverted back to his 2008-self. In fact, his numbers are worse.
Shamus Thacker
June 7th, 2009
4:44 pm
Our chances of going on any kind of streak are diminished by Stenchy’s presence, no matter what anybody says…
Gotta be a realist…
Josh B.
June 7th, 2009
4:45 pm
Does Jeff Francouer still have options?
BravesFanChris24
June 7th, 2009
4:47 pm
Josh B.
Yes he does. He has two left. They used one with his short stint in minors last year.
richbrave
June 7th, 2009
4:48 pm
MIXXO:
DIAZ is dy-no-mite with the stick against lefties and in given situations. Not so much as an every day bat. What you see is what you get. MATTY doesn’t leave anything behind in the dug-out. I love the guy, but he is what he is.
Shamus Thacker
June 7th, 2009
4:48 pm
If Stenchy were the “centerpiece” of this team, we’d be SKUNKED most of the time!
Mitchell
June 7th, 2009
4:48 pm
Way to go Nats.
Who do the Mets get to play next, the small town bad players?
TNJeff
June 7th, 2009
4:49 pm
NICE WIN – Momentum builder?????
NO, Confident this braves team will come out and stink up the place tomorrow night. Really looks like 2 or 3 pieces missing on this team (that being at least 1 outfielder – giving Loaf the benefit of the doubt and a 2nd baseman that doesn’t disappear for weeks on end with his hitting).
Chop Chop
June 7th, 2009
4:49 pm
Okay. It was Tuesday. Wednesday was a loss. Nevermind.
Frank from KS
June 7th, 2009
4:50 pm
DublinBrave
Frenchy has had time to get passed his *pressing-mode*. That time has done come and GONE.
It’s long past time for him to go. Same thing with Mr. Reyes and Bennett.
Supes
June 7th, 2009
4:50 pm
Paul Lentz,
Jeff supporters can’t deal with the facts and don’t have any to argue with you. They simply spin it like this:
1. He’s a “kid”. Nevermind this is his 4th season in the majors and he’s got plenty of AB to judge him at this point.
2. He used to hit for power and drive in runs…like 2 seasons. ago. Don’t you know it’ll “turn around” at some point. Right? It has to.
3. He’s a good guy. (Can’t argue here. He is by all accounts someone that is very personable and likeable in person)
4. He’s the “home town hero”. Little kids and women buy his jersey and the Braves t-shirts with his number on the back.
So there you have it. I agree with you, I hammered Jeff on this blog relentlessly last year to no avail. Now I just learn to let go b/c it’s a lost cause.
Our only hope is that when I look over the 2010 Braves roster, I won’t see Jeff’s name on it.
pryguy
June 7th, 2009
4:52 pm
MEB,
I must heed your advice as well. No more in game blogging for me.
richbrave
June 7th, 2009
4:52 pm
FRANCOUER needs a break. I really wonder if his bat is that good. He certainly did much better as a complete free-swinger when he first came up. A change of scenery would do him good. FRANK, help. Find somebody that could do with the same and switch players. NO add-ons please unless we get the bonus baby.
Paul Lentz
June 7th, 2009
4:53 pm
Jeff Franceour batting 5th, lol. I have been a Bobby Cox supporter (and no I have not always agreed with every move he has made, but hell, no manager is perfect) since he first started managing. However, his unyielding support of Jeff Franceour, and especially batting him 5th…..just baffles me. Franceour should have been pinch hit for in the 7th before he hit into that inning ending double play.
The “logic” is that Braves management dont want to hurt his confidence by benching him or pinch hitting for him. But damn, he isnt doing anything at all for us. One big hit in 6 weeks isnt going to cut it.
The reason I’m beating this issue to death is because I really see the Braves being one power hitting right handed right fielder away from being a really good offensive team. I know that Frank Wren has to be working the phones, trying to make something happen. He pulled off a steal of a deal when he fleeced the Pirates last week. It would be a shame to let this season get away from the Braves…..just because they want to be loyal to Jeff Franceour.
Mixxo
June 7th, 2009
4:53 pm
richbrave – Yeah, I like him too. He’s a gamer in the highest sense of the word. I just remember him making more contact in the past.
Lew
June 7th, 2009
4:53 pm
Josh-He should. He’s only been sent back once since he came up and I think they could do it for three years. Don’t know if service time plays into the equation, though.
o-me
June 7th, 2009
4:53 pm
DubinBrave= Is just pull your leg. Trying to fire you up, He don’t believe a word he’s saying. Just trying to piss U off. He knows like everyone that Frenchy is Fried and Bobby’s brain dead.
Shamus Thacker
June 7th, 2009
4:54 pm
I have a feeling that Stenchy will “press” (SUCK) for the rest of his career, however long that may be…
kirkinga
June 7th, 2009
4:54 pm
Was this game as satisfying as the comeback win against the Cubs on Wednesday?
Heck Yes! Is there a such thing as an unsatisfying win Chop Chop…lol?
Mixxo
June 7th, 2009
4:56 pm
I’m sensing us getting on a roll. Maybe take three of four from Pitt. and roll into Baltimore on a high.
N8
June 7th, 2009
4:56 pm
“Does Jeff Francouer still have options?”
The only option I care about, is which departure time at the train station he chooses to leave Atlanta on.
The real question, should be is if the Braves/Bobby actually have a BETTER option (hard to not be better, regardless of who it is), to put in RF.
But either way, today’s game proves that the best spot in the lineup for Jeff is batting him 10th. Too bad it’s not softball. He’d make a good rover.
N8
June 7th, 2009
4:57 pm
MEB and Supes.
Thanks.
csg
June 7th, 2009
4:57 pm
FRANCOUER needs a break. I really wonder if his bat is that good.
if youre still wondering you havent paid attention. I want him to have a change of scenery just so we dont have to watch him anymore. Ill do it for a PTBNL
BravesFanChris24
June 7th, 2009
4:58 pm
As I said on last page, Francoeur has 2 options left. They used one when they optioned him down last year.
csg
June 7th, 2009
4:58 pm
Frenchy has options but he’ll whine just like he did last year. I demotion is not an option for him
Coach ( Moon Pie, Anyone?)
June 7th, 2009
4:58 pm
Paul Lentz, keep beating that horse. Jeff Francoeur’s career as an Atlanta Brave is over after 2009.
In fact, he may not last the season if somebody is willing to take him off our hands.
BravesFanChris24
June 7th, 2009
4:59 pm
Unless just sending him down once didn’t count. My understanding is you get 3 options and once you’re optioned down and then up, that’s one.
Wayne in Utah
June 7th, 2009
5:00 pm
The blog can be so decent after a win. Those who can’t seem to find anything good to say, seem to disappear after a comeback win.
Tommy Hanson looked very promising today. I was hoping for a 6-7 inning, 2-4 run outing, but I am not totally surprised that he got rocked a bit. He will do OK. Big difference between TH and JoJo.
I can’t believe the slamming of McLouth so far. I think he will also be a very good player, but not quite enough to make us a strong offense. I believe we will suffer all year, unless we are able to pickup another player or two, but you never know when things might start clicking.
And to think that Chipper had a huge day because he was put into the third slot, is a slam to him. He has more professionalism than to tank when not hitting in a particular slot.
7
June 7th, 2009
5:00 pm
Jeff Edwards winning at pocono.. leading last 92 laps. Steward started 42 and now 2nd. 50 laps to go.
Tomahawkin
June 7th, 2009
5:01 pm
MIXXO?
This team Better Start Playing Consistant winning baseball and Doing the Little things to win games!!!!
And Seriously People If we drop 2 of 3 from the AAA Pirates I’m Gonna get Violent with the remote…?
We Need To start a Winning streak NOW…!
If You Like What I said “THEN GIVE ME ME A HELL YEA!!!!”
Tomas
June 7th, 2009
5:01 pm
Frenchy needs to figure it out. He is a great defensive player, but his hitting needs some serious improvement.
I can honestly say I think Frenchy won’t figure it out. After last year’s awful season, he worked with the best hitting coach there is and it didn’t make a difference(performance wise). Unless he has a complete 360 this year, then I think the Braves should non tender him.
pryguy
June 7th, 2009
5:03 pm
N8,
Appreciate your insights, as always.
Bill
June 7th, 2009
5:03 pm
It sure would be nice if McCann could play day games after night games.
Paul Lentz
June 7th, 2009
5:03 pm
DublinBrave………Brian McCann surpassed Jeff Franceour as a player long ago….even before Franceour started his “slump” 2 years ago. It’s not even close. McCann is a hitting machine who hits for both power and average.
Franceour hit 3 homers in the month of April. How is that getting off to a “hot” start? Well, I guess that it is a “hot” start if you compare it to the ZERO homers he hit in May, lol.
Franceour has hit 15 homers with 96 RBI’s in his past 812 at-bats. Is that what you consider to be a “little slump”?
Mitch
June 7th, 2009
5:04 pm
Tommy Hanson got hit hard today, which probably wasnt surprising, considering it was his major league debut. I will say that I was very impressed with his arm, and his stuff. Hopefully, he’ll have a bright future with the Braves.
Mitch
Mixxo
June 7th, 2009
5:04 pm
*HELL YEA’s Tomahawkin *
Wayne in Utah
June 7th, 2009
5:04 pm
BTW, I loved the fact that Hanson only walked one batter in 6 innings. That is very impressive.
If there was just some way to make Chipper about 8 years younger……
Shamus Thacker
June 7th, 2009
5:05 pm
Tomahawkin, consistency is not to be found with JF in the everyday lineup…
Wayne in Utah
June 7th, 2009
5:07 pm
And for any of those that might be wondering, I changed my wet panties….
Wayne in Utah
June 7th, 2009
5:09 pm
Being a Positive Paul, I am getting close to the point of thinking that Jeff needs to go. Bad as I hate to say it, I think the time has come to send him and his “potential” off to Boston or KC. We could do better with just about any journeyman OF’er.
Is Jim Edmonds available? Kenny Lofton? Which righties are out there?
Larry
June 7th, 2009
5:09 pm
Just returned from the game where several things remain clearly evident to all other that DOB, and Dog Breath(AKA: “Dog Brekky,” or however that financial goober spells his name):
Bobby Cox still hasn’t a clue how to manage a game, especially pitchers (should have pulled Hanson the moment he walked the leadoff batter in the 6th) and left the kid walk off the mound to a round of applause, confidence, and a 2 run lead after he’d given 2 runs and 1 run, respectively, in the previous two innings. Wouldn’t one think Hanson probably was a little tired from the hot son, likely a sleepless night, and the simple mental fatigue from his first ML start? Not the nose picker!
Second, Both Kelly Johnson and Jeff Francoeur are are not major league caliber players. Period!
Shamus Thacker
June 7th, 2009
5:09 pm
Take back three pitches and Hanson wasn’t hit hard. I was thrilled at the way he battled deep into the game.
TNJeff
June 7th, 2009
5:10 pm
Mixxo 4:56 pm
How long you been watching this team – I’ve seen comments like yours for the last several years. Not buying – been burned WAY too many times. Even began to believe after the Frenchy game tying homer and eventual win but remember this is a Bobby Cox team &
this team has a will to lose and lose they will
bravos2249
June 7th, 2009
5:10 pm
Frenchy isn’t a bad guy, but last time I checked being a nice guy didn’t do squat for your avg.
Steve from OH
June 7th, 2009
5:10 pm
Shamus, I disagree. There is nobody, and I mean nobody, more consistent at making outs than Jeff Francoeur.
ccrider
June 7th, 2009
5:10 pm
It was a nice comeback today, but we as Braves fans need to be realistic. There are problems on this team which need to be corrected for the Braves to have any success now or in the future. In no particular order, Kelly Johnson and Jeff Francoeur are not players that can be a part of a World Series level team. They are similar to Yunel in that they have little or no plate discipline or strikezone judgement, particularly in pressure moments of the game. Yunel is the same except for one big difference, he can hit bad pitches where Kelly and Jeff strikeout and if you add in Kelly’s below average to poor defense, these 2 players are not championship calibur.. David Ross is a fine catch and throw catcher with a decent bat for a backup catcher, having said that he is truly horrific in calling a game. Hanson would constantly get ahead of the big Brewers bat(Braun, Fielder, Cameron) with curves and sliders and then they would wait knowing Ross would call for the fastball and they would take it deep. This was the reason Ross was a free agent, it was well known in the league that his weakness was game calling. If, the Braves want to keep him they must let the bench coach call the pitches or restrict him to catching veteran pitchers that will shake him off when they know the pitch isn’t right. Garrett Anderson and Matt Diaz are also players that are inadequate in the short and long picture of this club. Anderson has brought little in the way of offense and is a very poor defensive OF at this late stage of his career. Diaz is in the mold of Jeff and Kelly at the plate, he can’t lay off bad pitches and is a rally killer much more often than not. The Braves need to make some decisions come the trade deadline. I can’t imagine a team like the Braves taht has so many holes in the lineup as being still in the race at the end of July. Players that should be made available or released at the end of the season include: Trade-Vazquez(too many pitchers, would help fill some needs) Gonzalez, Soriano-Free agents, Francoeur, Kelly Johnson, Diaz -Not championship players. Release: G. Anderson. Finally, find as many ways as possible to free payroll for signing professional hitters Holiday, Bay, C. Figgins, Nady in the off season. The Braves can always trade them along with Kotchman when Heyward, Freeman and Cody Johnson are ready if need be. The Pitching is here , let’s get a professional lineup to help them!
N Nine (Send Frenchy down)
June 7th, 2009
5:10 pm
I changed my wet panties….Wayne in Utah
I’m happy for you, anyway you can help Frenchy?
No way dude
June 7th, 2009
5:11 pm
*Tommy Hanson looked very promising today. I was hoping for a 6-7 inning, 2-4 run outing, but I am not totally surprised that he got rocked a bit. He will do OK. Big difference between TH and JoJo.*
**Wayne** there is zero proof of that statement.Giving up 7 runs is not promising sorry. Just say the kid needs more time but stop with the pie-in-the-sky stuff. Keep it real bro.
njbraves
June 7th, 2009
5:11 pm
Jeff Francoeur must go. It would be the best thing for the Braves and for him. Maybe a change of scenery is what he needs. We all know he’s got the talent, but this is not going to work. With him and KJ in the lineup, along with the pitchers spot, we are looking at 3 easy outs. I have never seen a worse approach at the plate in my life. Jeff literally looks scared to fall behind in the count, and when he does, he will swing at anything.
Chop Chop
June 7th, 2009
5:11 pm
Jeff Francoeur is a winning ballplayer. His team won today. He is a winning ballplayer.
Choke on that, h8ters.
Paul Lentz
June 7th, 2009
5:11 pm
Coach ( Moon Pie, Anyone?) …………I’m not worried about the Braves non tendering Franceour after this year. I’m worried about RIGHT NOW! The Braves have a chance to win some games now and make a run at the division. Having Franceour in the line-up does not give the Braves the best chance to win. It only hurts. I want to see him benched NOW. I know that Matt Diaz is not the long term answer. However, until Frank Wren is able to swing a trade for that big bat….then Bobby can at least finally bench Franceour and put Diaz’s bat in there. I’d rather have Diaz go 0-5 than Franceour…because at least with Diaz, you’ll know that he’ll rebound and have a 2-4 day. Whereas Jeff Franceour will keep going on with his rally killing at-bats.
Poorjeff
June 7th, 2009
5:12 pm
Tomes..”Frenchy is a great defensive player.”
JF’s defensive ability has dropped a hell of alot in last year and half. He can’t get to balls he use to , judgement is not as good,he’s slower. Arm not as good. If you can’t tell a difference your blind. Please dear Lord help move him out, asp. Gold- Glove=Joke.
Poorjeff
June 7th, 2009
5:14 pm
Winning what Chop chop?
njbraves
June 7th, 2009
5:14 pm
ccrider…your post is ridiculous. How do you know that Ross is terrible at calling a game. You don’t. The Braves are not going to sign Holliday, so forget that one.
DublinBrave
June 7th, 2009
5:15 pm
Paul Lentz, you know as well as I do that every great player has been in a slump a time or two. He’ll come out of it and will be the difference maker on this club. Now I see people bashing Kelly. He may be the best second basemen in the game today and he can drive home runs out of the park almost as well as Frenchy. You need to watch more games. Those two are the future of this Braves team.
Shamus Thacker
June 7th, 2009
5:15 pm
Chop Chop, looks like you’re trying to tell YOURSELF that! lol
count_schemula
June 7th, 2009
5:17 pm
1. Frenchy has looked bad for a long time now…
2. Cox left Hanson in too long. I say this because he started looking shaky (controlwise) in the 4th, and by the start of the 6th he was done. Why? Because it was his first start in the MLB and and he was artificially amped up and when that wore off… he was more depleted than normal. Like coming off a big high and getting the blahs. He frazzled earlier than he will when not so adrenal at the start.
Give him a taste, then stretch him out.
DublinBrave
June 7th, 2009
5:17 pm
Some of you bashers should go over to the Frenchy fan club blog. This place is biased against him.
Shamus Thacker
June 7th, 2009
5:17 pm
Dublin, you need to head down to Milledgeville for a shock treatment. You’re delusional to the hilt!
Mixxo
June 7th, 2009
5:17 pm
TNJeff
Ohhh, I’ve been watching the Braves since about 1972 I suppose. Not too long.
It was just a playful forecast on my part. Trying to stay positive. No hurt in hopin’….right?
kirkinga
June 7th, 2009
5:18 pm
Who was it that said if the Braves were still in striking distance by the end of today they’d would be ok? Was that you N8?
Well looking at the next two series, there is no reason to believe the Braves can’t win both series. I wouldn’t expect sweeps, but they can win these next two series. If they do that then they will have confidence going into interleague play.
I like the pitching matchups with the Pirates. I think tomorrow could be the toughest with Duke.
Shamus Thacker
June 7th, 2009
5:18 pm
How many posters are on the Frenchy Fan Club blog? Just you Dublin? lol
Wayne in Utah
June 7th, 2009
5:19 pm
no way dude
I am sorry, but I refuse to have a conversation with a blogger who refuses to use his normal screen name. Who are you???
Savannah Guy
June 7th, 2009
5:21 pm
Has the in-game stream of negative thought and insta-rant constant comment crowd settled down?
Great game today. Hanson looked absolutely dominant in those first three, then he, like so many rookies, got rocked. Still, his stuff looked great. His approach and overall look reminded me of a cross between Steve Avery and Derrick Lowe. All in all, a humbling but good, positive outing. He got the hook in the 6th but thanks to Chipper, McCann, Yunel and McLouth and some good D from Prado he got off the hook.
Now, hopefully we build on this with a very tough schedule coming up. I’d really like to see a lineup like Nate, Yunel, Chipper, McCann, Anderson, Diaz, Kelly, Prado. We will need runs.
Nice if Ross could sub at first…
Chop Chop
June 7th, 2009
5:21 pm
Shamus Thacker,
Your boy Hanson tried to ruin the game for my boy Francoeur. I’m sick of guys trying to drag Frenchy down. He’s all we’ve got.
Shamus Thacker
June 7th, 2009
5:22 pm
lmao@chop
jOEBRAVE
June 7th, 2009
5:23 pm
DublinBrave, My mom’s computer, hmmm, son I have four in my office, and You have no damn idea about Baseball, PinnocchioNose Failcouer has been at best a turd in a dry sesspool the last two seasons..
You need to step away from the gasoline can, put down the glue tube, and stop smokin that lefthanded stuff….
from the sounds of it You need all the brain cells you can get!!!!
Shamus Thacker
June 7th, 2009
5:25 pm
Now I don’t know who the Hell is serious and who ain’t.
Could Dublin ACTUALLY be serious!?
I’m bumfuzzled…
no way dude
June 7th, 2009
5:25 pm
Wayne I don’t have a “name” I just type in what I feel dude. Lots of people do it. Doesn’t change the fact that you are overeaching.
Savannah Guy
June 7th, 2009
5:25 pm
Give’em hell, Joebrave.
Efrim
June 7th, 2009
5:26 pm
Let’s get one thing straight, Kelly Johnson and Jeff Francoeur really shouldn’t be lumped together. I’m a huge KJ fan, but I will agree that he needs to get going, because when it comes down to it, he has been regressing since 2007 and he is going to be 28 years old next year and isn’t making the league minimum anymore(2.8 million this year). I’m confident that he’ll play better, but he isn’t THAT young anymore. Need to see more from him. I’ve said before I think he is getting traded this year(most likely offseason when the Braves will have needs such as closer and outfield…and his replacement at second since I don’t believe in Prado or Infante as everyday players). But the Braves don’t want to sell low on the guy. Too good to sell low. Anyway….
Francoeur is going to get non tendered after this year is over. The problem is, barring a miracle, every team knows this. He isn’t worth his salary. So, if you are a team trying to trade for the guy, you know it’s a trade for a 3 and a 1/2 month rental. Because the team that trades for him is probably going to non tender him as well. His salary is going to go beyond 4 million. Who is paying more than 4 million for a player like Francoeur? Hopefully a team just sees enough in Frenchy that they are willing to give him a 3 month tryout. But I can’t imagine any team giving up more than a low level grade B prospect for him(similar to the Kotsay deal).
The real problem is BC batting him higher than 7th or 8th in the order. That just has to stop. Playing him everyday should probably stop too.
Wayne in Utah
June 7th, 2009
5:27 pm
no way dude
Then if you will not be identified, I don’t know if I am talking with somebody I respect, or just someone who rants on and on. Have a nice day.
Rob (from SC)
June 7th, 2009
5:29 pm
Hanson might have had issues locating from the stretch. Maybe he was rushing and that caused his fastball to go up in the zone. Nobody could touch him from the windup. He will make the adjustment and will be awesome.
Inside Pitch
June 7th, 2009
5:29 pm
What’s the matter with the Braves organization?” a visiting-team beat writer asked the day after the Braves dumped Tom Glavine(notes). “They used to be the envy of baseball and now they’re just clowns.”
That’s certainly one word for it. But not among the words Glavine chose when he arranged to meet with reporters in the offices of a local radio station Friday morning.
After invoking his 24-hour rule to let his emotions settle down, Glavine offered this assessment of his release by the Braves.
He now believes that they thought he would fail in his rehab either by being injured or by getting shelled; that by signing him to a modest contract they could avoid the explosion of ill will they caused by not re-signing John Smoltz(notes); that when his June 6 start date loomed and general manager Frank Wren was close to a deal with the Pirates for Nate McLouth(notes), the Braves wanted to use Glavine’s $1 million roster bonus on McLouth’s contract.
At no time during Wednesday’s meeting with Wren, manager Bobby Cox and team president John Schuerholz was there any offer of a position with the organization in any capacity were he to retire. And besides, why should he retire when he believes he’s ready to pitch?
At no time during his rehab was Glavine told that the Braves were planning anything other than the rehab starts they outlined followed by a start against the Brewers on June 6. (With Thursday’s rainout, that would have been pushed back to June 7.
Glavine did say he was told he could stay on the DL all season and hang out in the clubhouse if he wanted to.
Schuerholz was unsettled enough by the tone of their meeting, if not by the decision itself, to offer a public apology Friday. He said, “I tossed and turned pretty much all night long, really, after we finished our meeting with Tommy, thinking about, here’s this guy who has meant so much to our franchise, to the game of baseball, Hall of Famer. Represented our city in grand fashion. And the meeting ended in a way that didn’t make me feel good.
“I, as the president of the club, could have taken more time to explain not only the circumstances around the decision, although we made that decision in unanimous fashion, but to explain to Tommy our high regard for him. Our view of him and this organization for years to come, in some sort of connective fashion. Some sort of relationship. I don’t know what that would be.”
Schuerholz left a voice mail for Glavine and wishes to apologize to him personally. Schuerholz said Glavine had “reached out” in return but did not specify how, except that it was not by voice mail.
Wren and team chairman Terry McGuirk believe that, with the shaky starting pitching and injuries currently attacking the Mets and Phillies, the Braves have a shot at winning the division. If, that is, they can generate the least bit of offense—hence the McLouth deal—and if they have a solid rotation, one through five. Both those things remain to be seen.
Meanwhile, inside the clubhouse, the feeling is that it was Wren’s intention all along to bring up Tommy Hanson(notes) in June—but not before, for future financial reasons—and that Glavine’s ability to return to the rotation ran up against that. The belief is that Kris Medlen(notes) was called up before Hanson was because Medlen will not command the kind of future salary or arbitration award Hanson will, especially since Medlen is now being sent to the Braves’ bullpen.
Wednesday’s events have some of the Braves’ players on edge, which can’t be good. Especially when that is coupled by a new distrust of their GM’s word.
DublinBrave
June 7th, 2009
5:29 pm
Joe Brave if you knew how the baseball game was played you wouldn’t need to cuss so much. Bobby Cox knows what he’s doing by letting Jeff work through his slump. All players have them. Bobby has won many rings. You have not. So who are you to know?
Shamus Thacker
June 7th, 2009
5:30 pm
I haven’t ranted much since Hammy’s departure, but Stenchy’s monumental incompetence is stoking the fire.
no way dude
June 7th, 2009
5:34 pm
Ok Wayne that’s kewl dude, but check yourself jus tha same ok. Peace!
Del
June 7th, 2009
5:34 pm
Almost fell out of my chair when they announced Frenchy in the #5 hole.
Cox must be nuts!! His performance today should buy him a ticket out of town, and by the way send Cox along with him.
jgon
June 7th, 2009
5:35 pm
Well Wren made the statement.”Pitching in the minors is not like pitching in the majors”
FloridaBrave
June 7th, 2009
5:37 pm
Wow, there’s actually someone who thinks Francouer is a star who is simply in a slump? Unbelievable.
Daybed Wagmoe
June 7th, 2009
5:38 pm
Great win for the Braves today, these late-inning comebacks are what was missing last year. My thoughts on today’s game:
1. Chipper is a beast, which we already knew, but how about his day splits? Coming into today, he was .432/.532/.676 (avg/obp/slg) in 37 at-bats. It’s a shame that Mac sits in day-games-after-night-games, because having both of them in the lineup on day games would be much more effective.
2. Hanson’s debut: for all of you Hanson haters already saying he’s a bust or he needs more time in AAA, give it a rest. Major league pitchers make mistakes, especially when they first come up, and Hanson’s no exception. He made Prince Fielder and Mike Cameron look foolish in their first at-bats, and even though he gave up 3 homers after that, he’ll be fine. He’s going to face adversity, and it’s important for Bobby and Roger to see how he handles it; I thought he rebounded nicely in the 6th after giving up his 3rd homer to get out of that inning. He’s going to be very good for a very long time, and the sooner he’s in the bigs, the better it is for the Braves.
3. Francoeur, on the other hand….oy ve. Dude saw 8 pitches in 4 at-bats today. He’s overaggressive, not good with pitch selection, and not making the pitcher work. I’ll say what’s already been said a million times — he’s not the player the Braves thought he’d turn out to be. He has no business having an everyday starting job, and if he wasn’t from Atlanta, he’d already have been long gone. Since the Braves’ brass are now in the practice of cutting ties with hometown heroes, he should be next on the list.
4. Nice showing by the bullpen today. Bennett did a good job buckling down with the runner on 3rd with 1 out and getting out of the inning, and O’Flaherty had a good inning as well. Gonzalez got the save, but his save opportunities are getting to be much too exciting for Bobby’s blood pressure as well as mine. Gonzo hasn’t recorded a 1-2-3 inning in a save situation since May 7 in Florida. I can understand that Gonzo is the closer and should be until he completely falls apart, but I’d also like to see Soriano get a few more save opportunities.
5. Prado’s defense on that GIDP and pickoff play — good to see with Kotchman on the DL.
6. This isn’t about today’s game, but the Braves can really make some hay in the next week as they face the Pirates and Orioles, and they’d better do so. After those series, they face (in order) the Reds, Red Sox, 1 game with the Cubs, Yankees, Red Sox, then Phillies. That does not look like an encouraging stretch, and as Boog and Joe were saying today, that might be the hardest 13-game stretch (starting with the Red Sox, but the Reds are no pushover) that any team in baseball has this season.
winterville
June 7th, 2009
5:38 pm
Anybody else watching the Cubs Reds game on WGN? They’re tied at 3 in the 13th. Our old buddy Jose Ascanio just pitched 3 scoreless innings but he had a fair amount of baserunners on. Pretty good game though.
Coach ( Moon Pie, Anyone?)
June 7th, 2009
5:39 pm
Wren and Cox…..
Two ASS clowns. Enough said.
Shamus Thacker
June 7th, 2009
5:39 pm
Dublin, thanks for letting us know that baseball knowledge is the key to a life without cussing. I should tell my 82-year-old, baseball-expert, Mom, about that. She’s still hurling profanities about the game two nights ago!
PWHjort
June 7th, 2009
5:39 pm
Out machine is awful awful awful awful awful. He needs to go right now. Someone on another blog said he’s giving out machine this nickname: “Fr4n000ur” because it looks like his box score line: 4 0 0 0.
Steve from OH
June 7th, 2009
5:40 pm
Ha, three days after “applauding” Frank Wren’s trade for McLouth, Coach decides to do a 180 and call him that. Where’s Capt. Caveman when you need him?
Steve from OH
June 7th, 2009
5:42 pm
Guys, Hanson is a rookie. He’ll struggle at times. He’s got the stuff to dominate at times. But he’ll give us a chance to win every time he steps on the mound from here on out, and that’s all you can ask. He’s gonna be learning on the job, like all rookies. Deal with it.
PWHjort
June 7th, 2009
5:42 pm
Does anyone remember the name of that guy who always came on here during spring training talking about how unimpressed with Tommy Hanson he was? That guy was a riot. But where is he now?
Cuck-a-Too
June 7th, 2009
5:43 pm
If he is, well, I have a move I’d like to suggest. I also would like to suggest that those of you who are reading this right now ought to take a seat, because you’re about to read something that might disturb you. Rest assured, this is not some cockamamie idea I came up with today. Well, it might be a cockamamie idea, but it’s an idea I’ve been considering since spring training.
I think the Royals should trade for Jeff Francoeur.
Yeah, that Jeff Francoeur. The one that’s become the bane of Atlanta Braves fans and the laughingstock of baseball.
Some players get called “underrated” so much that they become overrated in the process. And for some, the opposite occurs: they get labeled overrated, and that label sticks to them so tightly that the pendulum swings too far the other way.
The blog is entitled: “Radical Situations call for Radical Solutions…
PLEASE Royals take him…PLEASEEE!! I would trade him for a buy one get one free coupon for a can of greenbeans.
Shane
June 7th, 2009
5:43 pm
You guys do realize McCann cant catch every game dont u? The day game after a night game is the perfect time to rest him
Im calling for a Baseball IQ test to be allowed to post on this blog. IF you pass the test you will be given a logon and allowed to post. This blog was great at first when the Baseball people were blogging but like all good things on the net its been taken over by the morons.
Its simply amazing at the lack of baseball IQ in here. You know when announcers have the discussion and they say something like ” Hey the fans in this city really know their baseball.”
Usually in refrence to St. Louis etc. Youwill NEVER hear that comment made about Atlanta and our fans. This blog is a living breathing testament to the reason why.
McFann :Ô:
June 7th, 2009
5:43 pm
Well, all I cann say is:
RBI DOUBLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLE!!!!! He hit an RBI double!! My Sister was so right…he almost had a homer, but I’ll take the double with WIDE OPEN ARMS!!
GREAT WIN, Braves! Great win…
Ron Roberts
June 7th, 2009
5:44 pm
I like the idea of picking up Jim Edmonds and shipping Francoeur back down to Gwinnet – and THIS team we need to “mean it.” Problem is, we saw how sluggish Garrett Anderson was to start the season, I can’t imagine a ‘Jim Edmonds’ type signing would creat instant offensive impact, either. And do we have THAT much time to wait for a guy to get into regular season mode?
N Nine (Send Frenchy down)
June 7th, 2009
5:45 pm
Favre making yet another comeback!!!
N Nine (Send Frenchy down)
June 7th, 2009
5:46 pm
McFann
Glad you had fun. Did you get a McCann Pink Bat?
chas
June 7th, 2009
5:47 pm
A quality hitter rarely if ever goes into a slump that lasts 1 year + if injuries are not to blame. Frenchy simply doesn’t have to discipline to be a good hitter…he is a hacker. The problem with being a hacker is that pitchers know you are a hacker and throw you the junk because they know you’ll swing at it so you always end up swinging at the first pitch and either miss it or ground or pop out. I bet if Frenchy forced himself to take the first pitch for 30 days he would have a much better chance to get some good swings (see Wade Boggs). A good hitter has a good eye and looks for opportunities in the count (see Chipper Jones). Even Chipper will sometimes take 4 straight pitches to work the count and then waits for his pitch. Jeff Francoeur has turned into the aging 35 year old Dale Murphy as his career severely declined. TAKE THE FIRST PITCH JEFF…YOU ARE NOT HITTING IT FOR A BASE HIT ANYWAY!!!!
bravesgirlnc
June 7th, 2009
5:47 pm
Please can we get some good news on Frenchy getting permanently benched or sent to AAA. I think 10000 more people might show up to the games just to see him NOT playing.
Rob (from SC)
June 7th, 2009
5:48 pm
You have to wonder if getting hit in the face during Spring Training 2008 has messed Francoeur for good.
Packerman
June 7th, 2009
5:48 pm
People need to cool it with the “Kelly’s poor defense” stuff. Kelly’s only made 4 errors, whereas Yunel has made 9 and Chipper has made 6. If you’re looking to upgrade your defense the first place to look is left field. Diaz and Garret both have very limited range and nada for an arm. They don’t make as many errors because it’s a lot harder to make an outfield error than an error on the infield.
Secondly, Tommy Hanson showed us that he can be great. It’s not all about the final line. His first 3 innings were stellar. Even through 4 he looked pretty good.
Lastly, the Braves still need a big bat in the middle of the lineup. If trading Frenchy can accomplish that, then I say go for it, but I don’t see the return on him that Matt Diaz could get. Besides, losing a platoon guy wouldn’t sting as much as losing an everyday guy, even if his bat is better. Frenchy’s arm saves too many runs to make him a giveaway guy. I’m not one of those 20,000 13 year old girls that fell in love with Francoeur because he’s from Atlanta, but I do like having his defense in right. I’ve never been high on Frenchy, and McCann has been my favorite player since he came up (always liked catchers for some reason). I can put up with him at the bottom of the order until Heyward comes up to take his place. If we’re not going to trade him for the big stick we need at the 4 spot, we don’t need to trade him.
People please quit whining!
PWHjort
June 7th, 2009
5:48 pm
Francoeur actually has 2 option years left. We could send him down this year and keep him down until the end of the 2010 season. After that we’d have to sneak him through waivers to send him down. The problem is he’s making arbitration money and you can’t give arbitration money to a dude in the minors.
steve_97060
June 7th, 2009
5:49 pm
it is kind of interesting how most of the tools who post nothing but the same old negative drivel seem to leave after the game is over… and you gotta love the mental giants who criticize Cox and whatever move he makes or doesn’t make and expound on how “they” would have done it… yeah internet Managers/GM’s.. keyboard wizards…
DublinBrave
June 7th, 2009
5:49 pm
Joe Brave, you can have Glavine. He never had great stuff anyway. So what if he’s gone? Wren needed all the extra money for building the next team of the next era. That means signing long term with Frenchy, Kelly, Yunel and our SPs. You don’t see the big picture at all. It’s not just about one slump for Frenchy. Look at his career numbers. He’ll be the difference maker. But you are too busy with your foul mouth to even see it. You are probably a mad teenage girl, right?
N Nine (Send Frenchy down)
June 7th, 2009
5:50 pm
We should call the Pirates and hand them Frenchy as part of the McLouth deal. That should calm down LaRoche
Coach ( Moon Pie, Anyone?)
June 7th, 2009
5:50 pm
Braves Sign Jon Huber
By Mike Axisa [June 7 at 1:48pm CST]
According to a release by the Lancaster Barn Stormers, the Braves have signed righthanded reliever Jon Huber to a minor league deal. Huber had been pitching for Lancaster in the independent Atlantic League this season, where he had a 3.63 ERA and a 10.08 K/9 in 22.1 innings. He has a 2.57 ERA in 28 big league innings, all coming with the Mariners back in 2006 and 2007. The Braves assigned him to Triple-A Gwinnett.
Shamus Thacker
June 7th, 2009
5:51 pm
Ron, we’ve been waiting two-years for Frenchy to get into regular season mode, so yeah, we can wait.
Shamus Thacker
June 7th, 2009
5:52 pm
LOL@N NINE
McFann :Ô:
June 7th, 2009
5:53 pm
N Nine–
Thanks. They’re not pink, but yeah, I got my bat! McCann was carrying one around in the dugout throughout the game, too. He was showing it off to everybody…even the Brewers first base coach.
So…they finally made a Spotlight on McCann eh? ‘Bout time…
The Truth
June 7th, 2009
5:53 pm
If you break down the schedule to the All Star break its pretty simple. Braves will be exactly two games under .500 at the end of the first half. That’s the positive outlook. 10 semi easy games coming up. 13 impossible games after that. Than 10 semi easy games after that to close it out. 6-4 over the next 10. 4-9 over the 13 game imposible stretch and 6-4 on the road trip to close out the first half. 16-17 over the last 33 games. braves will be 43-45 to start the second half And I bet they are 8 games back of first place too. Calling it.
Coach ( Moon Pie, Anyone?)
June 7th, 2009
5:53 pm
DublinBraves wrote:
Joe Brave, you can have Glavine. He never had great stuff anyway.
305 wins, Hall of Fame, Cy Young?????
DublinBrave = ASS CLOWN.
Shamus Thacker
June 7th, 2009
5:54 pm
Calling what Frency’s in a slump, is like calling the Grand Canyon a ditch….
FloridaBrave
June 7th, 2009
5:56 pm
DublinBrave,
Give it a rest. Even ignoring the fact he has an OPS around .640 in his last 800 or so AB’s(800s AB’s is only a slump, right?, and looking at the career numbers like you said, Francouer has a career line of .267 BA/.309 OBP/.427 SLG/.736 OPS. That’s below average for a corner outfielder.
You have no argument. So please stop.
The IQ Test
June 7th, 2009
5:57 pm
If an IQ of eighty were required to post here…….
Ninety percent of the bloggers would be permanently banned.
McFann :Ô:
June 7th, 2009
5:59 pm
BTW–I got to cast 2 All-Star Ballots at the game! Prob’ly shoulda done more…
jOEBRAVE
June 7th, 2009
6:00 pm
Look, Dublin the Dumbass, I don’t care if you had Five Failcouers, I would take 3 Glavine’s over them any day of the week!!!!!
by the way I called it on Glav, Smoltz,Justice, and I am calling it on Stenchy, what are you going to do when your Beloved Big Nosed no hit, sloth gets the boot from the Atl????
Please do not jump from the nearest building, I fear it won’t be tall enough for you!!!!
jOEBRAVE
June 7th, 2009
6:02 pm
Hell at this point the only Option for Failcouer is a ticket the hell outta here!!!!
N Nine (Send Frenchy down)
June 7th, 2009
6:02 pm
Trivia..What player leads baseball with first pitch out?
McFann Oh my bad, don’t know why I thought they would be pink! lol Those doubles and triples are coming! We’re on track with the triples. I love his belly dives.
a643dp
June 7th, 2009
6:02 pm
We need to make a trade for Mark Derosa. When Jo Jo and Infante get back we can trade Kelly, Frenchy and Jo Jo. The Indians are in last place 7 1/2 back. Derosa is the best bet to improve our ball club in RF. If we get him in late July we would only owe $1.8 million for the rest of the season. We cant trade for Dunn because as bad as the National are they were smart to backend the deal. He is owed 12M in 2010. Only way we could afford that is to decline the Hudson 2010 option. I hope we dont go that route. Dye is a long shot he would cost us $3.83M from late July on. He has a mutual option for 2010 12M. He might be a good trade because we could make the trade, see how good Hudson is and if he kicks A$$ we could offer the option.(Hudson has the power to void the option). We could always fall back to Dye if Tim is not 100% or he chooses the FA market. I dont see Dye (a corner OF) turning down a $12M 1 year offer in this economy. Holliday is a bad idea too high profile no chance to resign in the offseason. The good news is that we have worked with the white sox recently,have had several trades with Indians over the years, and even with the nationals Stan Kasten and the Braves are still very close. What ever it is need Frenchy out of this lineup PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Roman Gal
June 7th, 2009
6:02 pm
Steve from OH
If Tim Lincecum is a pencil-necked dweeb with long hippie-hair, what does that make Hanson?
DublinBrave
June 7th, 2009
6:02 pm
What I meant was that Glavine was of no use to us now and we needed those millions to build on the best possible team. We need a young team. Joe Brave is a simpleton pretender of baseball knowledge. Coach looks like one too. What are you a bowling coach?
jOEBRAVE
June 7th, 2009
6:03 pm
I see a connection between 3 things Mutts Tool=Anders=DublinBrave!!!!
Only a Mutts fan would call Stenchy a Star!!!!
Chop Chop
June 7th, 2009
6:03 pm
Steve,
What if he doesn’t?
You speak so authoritatively, yet you can’t divine the future. Let’s let the kid pitch, why don’t we? Let’s let him establish the level of trust that we should have in him as a big league pitcher.
kirkinga
June 7th, 2009
6:03 pm
Truth, I hope you are right about the positive side. I’ll take 2 games under at the end of the first half. That’s much better than in previous seasons. Also, the other teams don’t appear to be running away with anything anytime soon, so yeah, two under .500 is ok.
Looking at their schedule June is the hardest month and July only a bit better. But I think if they can hang in there …around 5 games out..they can make some ground up from Aug. 11 after the Dodger series.
I see a strong push from Auguest until the end of the season as the Braves get back into the division. Of course they need to stay healthy.
Employee of Shady Acres Retirement Home
June 7th, 2009
6:04 pm
Coach you need to come on down to the activity room for a game of shuffleboard.