12:59 pm June 7, 2009, by Carroll Rogers
June 7th, 20093:18 pm
The shot of hanson in the dugout looked like the ugly redheaded kid that nody will play with!
Then stop watching. Stop rooting. Go relieve your stress and release your anger elsewhere, not on a professional baseball team. For 14 straight years, the Braves formula provided championship baseball. Why am I not to believe this team isn’t built similar to past teams. They are in an awful slump and that is obvious, but have shown signs to be a very good baseball club. Not praying, just observing wisely, not harshly like most of you on here.
Braves Stink With Or Without Hanson
June 7th, 20093:19 pm
kirkinga “Folks we’re only down by 2 with 1/3 of the game remaining.”
You’re kidding, right?
They were down by 1 in at least two games prior to todays game and couldn’t score in 21 innings!
So where is the pony under all this sh*t?
That Tommy Hanson is one heck of a player isn’t he?
So is this McLouth guy.
Oh and Kris Medlen…
Oh and KJ, Esco, Kotchman, Garrett Anderson, Matt Diaz, Jeff Francoeur, Martin Prado, David Ross, missing anyone else?
Sort of ~_~
I’ve been coming here for past two seasons, so I know the fickleness is expected. I’m just appalled by it.
Let’s keep it real -
Tom Glavine Rookie Year: 1987 5.54 ERA
John Smoltz Rookie Year: 1988 5.48 ERA
Greg Maddux Rookie Year: 1986 5.52 ERA
And, they turned out fine. Calm down people.
June 7th, 20093:20 pm
Im watching a real baseball team the Yanks and Rays ,and Sox and Rangers
Final line on Hanson, who’s day went way, way South, six innings, six hits, seven runs, six earned. three homers….one walk, five strikeouts…..i didn’t see that one coming. But the Brewers obviously timed him after the first time through the order….91 pitches, 30 balls, 61 strikes.
Steve from KY
Come on McLouth!
Rob (from SC)
When do we get to the place where we need to be sellers. Gonzalez, Soriano, Vazquez, Kawakami and rebuild this thing.
Wayne in Utah,
Your post at 3:14 echoes my sentiments. Thank you for your words.
Steve from OH
missing anyone else?
The incredibly valuable blogger MFin09. And by valuable, I mean “stupid,” “and idiot,” or “numbletard.”
Doesn’t matter what Glavine is doing cause he doesn’t have a job. At least the homers he did give up where to good hitters on bad pitches. Had it been on good pitches to bad hitters, then we’d have something to worry about.
Still don’t know why whoever it was kept calling or let him throw fastballs right there for them to hit though….I mean every homer was hit on a fastball. You think after 2 homers you’d change it up.
June 7th, 20093:21 pm
we might win or lose today, but it was the time to impress national media. highlights and go back to a more exciting team.
Hanson also needs to throw his fastball inside more often
I saw you on TV when Chipper hit his second home run.
Sorry McCann’s not playing. Hope you’re having fun!
Soph, that was largely my point in the blog. ….that it rarely is so easy for rookies, no matter how highly touted.
Hey pryguy. Where have you been the last 3 years? This team sux just like they have the last 3.
June 7th, 20093:22 pm
BIG TIME mclouth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Here’s your chance, Nate…
Tom Glavine still available? We still need a 5th starter.
If you look at Hanson’s history, he has struggled the first couple times out (usually high pitch counts) at each stop and then turned it up a notch. Which shows he knows how to adjust.
Time will tell if he’s got the “adjustments” in him (I think he does), to succeed up here. He’s obviously got the stuff.
John Smoltz went 2-7 with a 5.48 ERA in his first 12 starts of his career. That was AFTER giving up only 1 ER in 8 innings in his debut. Which means after his stellar debut, he went 1-7 with a 6.10 ERA in his next ll.
I’m not worried.
hang 1 hanson
Even jojo is laughin
this is not PITTSBURGH!!!!!
i bet the house your going lose today LOL
that 2-1 pitch to mclouth was not a strike
I watched the pitch readings @ the Ted last night in person while Hoffman was pitching. His fastball was never over 85 and a couple were 84. He’s a changeup guy now and has been for a few years since he lost his giddyup.
So what’s the problem with Glavine’s 84 mph fastball?
Dave, any chance they call Freddy Freeman up while Kotchman is on the DL? I know he’s young, but a 15 day stretch against the majors couldn’t hurt him, right?
Rob (from SC)
The homer to Cameron was inside…fat and inside on the plate
Wayne in Utah
I truly wish you idiots who are talking about how Glavine must be enjoying this game, would use your true name/moniker, so the rest of us could realize who the idiot truly is.
Cowards (Ripped again, The highlight of my pathetic existence, oldschool, etc.)
June 7th, 20093:23 pm
Pitts going come in and kick their butts starting tomarrow night
I’ve continued to support them just as any fan. And I’ve tried to do so in a positive manner, cause fans should be through the winning and the losing. Obviously, you’re not mature enough to handle the losing, like most others on here.
Just i case anyone is wondering, after 54 games last year, the Braves were 2.0 games back and finished 20 games out. Before todays game, the Braves are 6 games out and the future is looking dim.
McLouth of the South
What a bunch of f’ing morons. The kid got through 5 innings with 68 pitches and 4 hits. For once Bobby’s line would be accurate. “Kid looked great, just made a couple mistakes.” The 0-2 fastball down the middle to Braun was the bad one.
McLouth is giving a fight here. Good on him.
Best part about Hanson’s “line” today?
I’ll take getting hit, over giving them walks, any day of the week.
we need a true leadoff hitter, a powerful RH hitter to hit between Chipper and McCann, and for Bobby Cox and Frank Wren to get rid of Jeff Francoeur. It would be great if we could find a second baseman with speed. Not to many of them around though.
June 7th, 20093:24 pm
Can I go back to Pittsburgh…please?
What can I say? I have an innate sixth sense for judging talent and team dynamics. I wasn’t throwing Mr. Hanson under the bus before his first start. He’s got great stuff, but just has to learn how to channel it.
I don’t sugarcoat anything. Harsh? Maybe it is, but I call it like I see it.
The Real Fan
Atlanta IP H R ER BB SO HR ERA
Tommy Hanson 6.0 6 7 7 1 5 3 10.50
What can you say …
this team has a will to lose and lose they will
Down the road comes 12 game stretch vs Yankees, Red Sox, & Phillies.
We are gonna get killed and be double digits behind front runners and likely behind FL by then too.
Enter your comments here
time to remind you again the first couple years’ stats of the ol’ three:
maddux: 2-4 (era 5.52), 6-14 (era 5.61)
glavine: 2-4 (era 5.54), 7-17 (era 4.56)
smoltz: 2-7 (era 5.48), 12-11(era 2.94)
the big three’s first year stats were amazingly similar.
Not saying Hanson could not be better for the first year, just saying as long as he’s got the stuff, he’ll be fine.
Are you one of these fans who thinks that EVERYTHING COX does is wonderful…….I mean he was the ONLY ONE responsible for all of our division titles right……
Chipper, Maddux, Glavine, Smoltz, McGriff, Justice, Bream, Pendleton, Sheffield, all of them had NOTHING to do with it did they……..
Time and time again, Cox has proved that when he stays the hell out of the way, we will be successful, but when he gets involved, things fall apart.
Look at our bullpen the last couple of years.
Look at our bench situation the last couple of years.
Look at how he just sits there this year….at least the last couple of years he’d run out of the dugout everynow and then and get thrown out of a game…He doesn’t even do that anymore.
My only point is that you could tell Hanson was getting a little gassed in the 5th, I think the 6th would’ve been a good inning to put in someone else (not Bennett however).
By bringing him out in the 6th, it destroyed all the confidence that he would’ve gained.
Now why don’t you go and fu– yourself
Nate from NCState
I think we could all use a little Bill Parcells philosophy around here..
“It’s never as good as you think it is when things are going right and it’s never as bad as you think it is when things are going wrong.”
Settle down guys. Go outside, take a walk. It’s baseball.
I know he’s young, but a 15 day stretch against the majors couldn’t hurt him, right?
Except that he’s in A ball, isn’t hitting for much power there, never mind giving away an option year, adding him to the 40-man roster, and service time considerations. Remember how something like that worked out for Schafer and JoJo Reyes?
Folks, Hanson has a live arm and excellent stuff. Let’s give him a few more starts before pronouncing him a bust, shall we?
Wayne in Utah
im sure he’s getting a giggle about how things are going
June 7th, 20093:25 pm
Maybe we should have traded Hanson for Nate McLouth, both seem to have equal value of suckiness.
Pryguy. NO I’m just not a loser like you. I expect winning. They are paid to do so. And cox is a loser like you as well.
Hanson will be okay. His fastball was pretty straight and up in the zone. When he learns to keep it down his results will improve dramatically.
this brewers team has a big time offense. so it was tough for hanson. may be next time against the pirates.
just shows how great JJ has been his first two years
June 7th, 20093:26 pm
That’s an ERA of 9.00…not 10.50
Hansons just over hyped ,they should had traded him for Peavy when they could
McLouth of the South
Yeah then Bobby put him back up there and he gave up 4 runs. It’s not the fact that I’m bagging on Hanson but take him out after 5. Every rookie making their first start should only be expected to go 5. Our bullpen hasn’t been taxed…Medlen hasn’t pitched in 5 days….It would have been okay.
Prattvillenolzfan… Right on Brother.
Monty, how are we supposed to take your points seriously about Kris Medlen when you spell his name Chris Medlin?
Signed, Carol Rodgers
Wayne where ya been? I ‘ve been using oldschool since I found this blog!
I wonder when McLouth is gonna get that first rbi?
Yup, I have to say JJ has been awesome.
June 7th, 20093:27 pm
Hanson can even make the other team’s pitcher hit homeruns. Warning track double…horrible!!!!
Heres Bennett….how many walks today?
wow with a ERA like that its going take a month to get that down lol
frenchy for kotsay.
sorry, didn’t see Soph put it out there already.
Kris Medlen must be in Bobby Cox’s doghouse. Is he ever going to pitch again.
Nothing makes me happy. I could win the lottery and I’d still p!ss and moan about it.
June 7th, 20093:28 pm
I just wanted to know your credentials compared to a Hall of Fame manager. All you can give me are personal opinions on his performance over the years, and such broad examples. Has he made mistakes before, absolutely. Only human. Do I trust in his managing over the course of a season or the course of a player’s career. Absolutely. I’d expect someone with all the right answers to be a little more select in your choice of words. I guess I shouldn’t assume.
So Frenchy comes on and makes it look like a tough play. Why? Because he stumbles and falls all over the place where smooth outfielders glide over and catch the ball about belt level.
If i were Chipper i would ask for them to trade me,im sure he’s getting tired of playing with those dead beats
Well it was kinda hard the past few nights with no one on in front of him
June 7th, 20093:29 pm
OK. I’m going to be positive. Jeff Bennett does not suck. Jeff Bennett does not suck.
Nothing makes me happy. Yeh 3.5 hrs to the Brewers today and 7 runs. That’s something to be happy about. That and Bobby Cox’s stellar managing abilities this year.
Horrible debut for Tommy Hanson. 6 innings, 6 earned runs, 3 homers, hopefully he gets better.
Ever hear of fighting a losing battle? That’s the situation I am in with holding a discussion about baseball with you. Good day my man.
I wanted Hanson to do well (I’m a Braves fan after all), but I do take pleasure in the egg on Frank Wren’s face right now. Hell, the entire Braves front office. Now let’s see if we can save Hanson from a loss.
welcome to the BIGS tommy hanson and oh yea by the way you cant go there you pitch up in this game, evident by the three big bombs and a double by the pitcher and when will the scoreless streak end for the Braves 28 innings it has been now because Chipper drove in all the runs i wont give credit to the rest of these scumbags just simply because there peasants compared to chipper.
Wayne all upset now..poor baybie!
June 7th, 20093:30 pm
Wayne the problem is too much hype. The kid did not live up to all the hype. You can wet up your panties all you’d like but Hanson was hyped too much.
He was out!
Francoeur played that well
June swoon her we come. We will be 12 games out by the end of June.
We have no offense. Chipper is the only one that was ready to play today.
Once again Bennett is in there to give them about 5 more runs.
Im sick of it…
Bobby gonna get tossed
June 7th, 20093:31 pm
Wow. He musta missed the tag or something…
Thats wishful thinking lol
Or, not! He was OUT!!
Horrible call there.
OK here comes our savior Bobby Cox. Eat a carrot Bobby. You fat #%$^@.
If Bobby doesn’t get tossed here he is a horrible manager…
June 7th, 20093:32 pm
He was so out. That ump is blind.
Even teams in loser markets like Pittsburg and KC don’t keep their manager and coaches when they underperform like the Braves do. And in those markets they KNOW they don’t have the talent to compete!
So what does Atl do? They remain satisfied with failure.
Bobby just must not be saying the magic words this season.
kelly could made a better throw!!!!!!!!!!!
and agian when you play like the Braves are now bad luck and ball calls seem to follow you around
I wanna see Chip beat the crap out of Counsell
Wayne all upset now…
Should we disregard your post because you misspelled baby in your name or your post just flat out sucks and makes no sense? Which should we choose…hmmmm
June 7th, 20093:33 pm
“It looks like Chipper tagged him 3 times before he got to the bag.”
IRS: MFin, we decided to pick one person this year and double their tax rebate.
MFin: Son of a…wtf?!?!? You pieces of sh@#. You can’t tell me how much my tax rebate’s supposed to be.
IRS: Yes we can. Uh, we’re the IRS.
MFin: Whatever. I’m determined to get upset about everything, no matter what. Just for that, I’m going to pay you guys twice what you said you were giving me.
IRS: That’s the stupidest thing we’ve ever heard, but alright. We’ll take it where we can get it.
MFin: Damn right you will.
Can’t really assess Hanson till he gets more games under his belt. Remember, he’s struggled after reaching each level and then was fine after a few starts.
Nice play Rossy
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