12:59 pm June 7, 2009, by Carroll Rogers
June 7th, 20093:04 pm
“Wow, how many coach would choose not to walk Chipper in that situation, but why should we care?”
I don’t remember the manager, the team (Arizona maybe?), that walked Bonds intentionally with the bases loaded and a 2-run lead, and lived to tell about it.
Doesn’t happen very often, but if it’s gonna happen this year, it’s gonna be Chipper Jones at the plate, with this weak ass lineup around him.
I agree. Why in the world do you give Chipper a pitch to hit there? That’s twice in a week (walk off winner against the Cubs), that a team might loose because they refuse to make somebody else beat them.
Regardless of the results today, Hanson is for real. He’s gonna have to adjust the 2nd time through the order.
Amazing how SOME TEAMS know how to adjust against a young pitcher, huh? I’ve always wondered what that looked like.
6 innings are about his limit in Gwinnett? Right? Solid debut, kid. Bring on the bullpen, Bobby.
I know some of you aren’t big Matt Diaz fans, but just for the sake of argument, would any of you be in favor of having an outfield of Anderson, McLouth, and Diaz if it meant Francoeur not playing? I would.
June 7th, 20093:05 pm
We are toast today. Got 5 runs and we are done scoring.
Poor Kid…messing up his pysche….Ryan is going to Lidge’d Hanson
Saw First Game
No one cares about Andrus
our line up can’t produce more than 7 rund today. they will have 1 more shot at parra and then a good bull pen. he can’t get people out with 2 strikes.
We shoulda started Glavine, I mean come on 5 runs, he can’t even keep us in the game. We finally start to hit the ball, and he can’t keep up. For all of you people who wanted him, well, you got what you wanted. Glavine is a future hall of famer, he knows how to pitch, he would have made the adjustments so Brawn would not have hit 2 home runs. We will surely miss glavine. I’m sure glavine is saying right now I told you so.
Is anybody reading that daily buzz crap? Cliff notes?
Tommy Hanson's Debut
Wow! Hanson looks like Jo Jo! Jo Jo could throw 3 or 4 decent innings. Looks the same except he’s right handed and throws harder.
We really should thank Macha for giving chipper the chance first foremost.
Braves Fan 88
It’s not to late to let this kid get some more seasoning. Make amends with Tommy Glavine. There’s no way Glavine does worse than what we’ve seen today. Strikeouts are nice….knowing how to pitch enough to win 300 games is much better. Braves made a big mistake folks. Might as well been JoJo out there.
June 7th, 20093:06 pm
There it goes
ok take him out
Cue the Price is Right horn.
Wow! Hanson is a keeper! LMAO
HAHA. Wow. go take a shower hanson
Welcome to the BIG LEAGUES MR. HANSON!!
Awww, man. This is getting ugly.
Oh crap……….sorry folks.
Nice first few innings for THanson, but it’s time to hit the showers after his 3rd HR of the game.
See if Bobby pulls him when I said to that maybe wouldn’t have happened.
What did I tell you. WE are done for the day.
Well, Cox didn’t listen as usual and now we’re losing.
Wow he completely fell apart.
Put it on a batting tee, Bobby!
can we call something other than a FASTBALL!
Sh#$. Hanson’s gassed.
Looks like Chipper will need to hit a couple more homers.
June 7th, 20093:07 pm
Ok Cox, take him out now….but as I type this, I hear Joe say Bennett’s warming up…
WTF, if Bennett’s coming in, go ahead and keep Hanson in…..
Two run lead to two run deficit in record time!
Amazing, isn’t it, the difference between AAA and the Show. These hitters just don’t miss mistakes very often.
Saw First Game………Elvis Andrus is basically a good defensive player with no pop in his bat. 3 homers, 12 RBI’s.
In typical fashion, Bobby leaves the kid in there to what… work out of it?! C’mon!
WHe O WHEEE O WHEE O…this team sucks…
Double ouch. Well that’s unfortunate. He’s definitely made some mistakes. Let’s try again in a week eh Tommy? But we really cannot afford a sweep here.
June 7th, 20093:08 pm
Good thing Fielder is in a one day slump.
Tommy needs to mix in more breaking pitches. It’s been mostly fastballs, and when he does throw a breaking pitch it’s almost a fastball on the next one. With a slider like his, it’s okay to throw two sliders in a row.
Oh My! Nothing left for this guy to do at Triple A huh? Looks like there must be something left for him to do in Triple A because the big boys seem to be having no trouble with him.
The Milwaukee Brewers = what hitting looks like.
It’s his first major league game. Give him a break before ya’ll start talking about bringing Jo-Jo and Glavine back. This was to be expected, even phenoms have bad days.
Paging Mr. Glavine! “Better chance to win” my behind! Well let’s add Hanson to the list…Chuck James, JoJo Reyes, Kyle Davies, Charlie Morton…
Frankly, Hansen isn’t showing much. Maybe we should have kept Glavine.
wonderin if glavine is laughing
For anyone mentioning Andrus..he has more errors than Escobar
June 7th, 20093:09 pm
Did you expect anything less, DOB? Of course not. It’s like they’ve been sitting by just waiting to run to their computers and say I told you so!
Reason I hate reading the blog during games….read the 10-20 posts above this one. Idiotic uneducated fans
Braves Stink With Or Without Hanson
June 7th, 20093:10 pm
Hanson= More Braves Hype
This just went from a good show on the highlight reel (throwing a lot of strikes)….to them bashing Hanson for giving up the homers. ( throwing too many)
Simple…He is throwing TOO MANY FASTBALLS to a power hitting-fastball hitting team
This team is just making it difficult to watch….Give up 1 or 2 runs and score NONE….Score 5 runs give up 7! good grief!
We need another bat! A right handed power hitter or it ain’t gonna happen this year…
We can’t seem to get out of our own way
Hanson went 5 innings and only gave up 3 runs…
I think if you asked anyone knowlegable, we would have taken that from him.
Once again old dumbazz……….I mean Cox sends him out for the 6th inning.
I still am very impressed with Hanson. 6th inning notwithstanding, Hanson proved that Wren/Scheurholz made the right decision bringing Hanson up.
June 7th, 20093:11 pm
“Frankly, Hansen isn’t showing much. Maybe we should have kept Glavine.”
Hahahaha. Man, that’s hilarious.
Hanson’s making rookie mistakes. Gets a little tired and starts leaving pitches up. It happens. He’ll learn. He showed plenty in the first couple innings to indicate he’s going to be a stud.
The Curse Of The Glav
Has anyone noticed the Braves haven’t won a single game since Glavine was ungraciously released?
Rob in Mobile
People!! This is his first big league start. He’s just got the memo that major league hitters don’t miss mistake pitches (unless you’re Jeff Francoeur) like they do at AAA. He will adjust. Give him a break!
Hey RHR and DOB. It comes from prior experience. All the positivity in the world will not overcome an over the hill manager and inept coaching staff.
If there is a worse team in the majors than the Braves, I like to play them. The Giants were supposed to be worse and they swept us.
If Andrus is good defensively than so is Escobar. Look at the amount of errors for both.
June 7th, 20093:12 pm
I said Hanson was going to get rocked ……yesterday. Good to see him start off good but wait……I was wrong ….right?
The highlight of my pathetic existence
Hanson is a bust!!! Shoulda kept Glavine!!! I told you so!!! I’ll come back after the game!! Unless the braves win!!
Even though Hanson gave up the 3 homers, at least he made it through 6 innings. Final stat line: 6 innings pitched, 7 runs (6 earned), 6 hits, 1 walk, 5 strikeouts. 61 strikes out of 91 pitches. Not great. But at least he got it out of the way. I’m sure that he’ll make some adjustments before his next start.
Kyle Davies, Chuck James, Jason Marquis, Charlie Morton, Jo-Jo Reyes, Anthony Lerew, Bruce Chen and Jose Capellan
What? A Braves top pitching prospect falling flat on his face? Who has ever heard of that?
The season is slipping away fast.
Steve in NC
Brewers are definately a tough team to debut against. Seemed to lose some command after about 60 pitches. The first 60 pitches were pretty nasty. I think he’ll build on this. Cox left him in there after the Fielder single, I would’ve gone ahead and gotten him… but hey, it’s not my team.
Who calls the pitches, COX/McDowell from the dugout,
or does the catcher……..
What more can Chipper do?
Hanson obviously has electric stuff and may eventually make a great pitcher, however, Chris Medlen is more of a pitcher at this stage, more defined, knows better how to set batters up, and has much better control. Medlin has yet to be hit hard, his issues were nerves and uncharacteristic control problems(walks)in his first two starts. Tommy throws hard but leave it in the middle of the plate and Big Leaguers know what to do with it.
We,ve been waiting for THIS GUY? He sucks looks like an uglier version of Millwood.I ‘d trade his sorry ars for a bat and call and BEG GLAVINE to please come back
“Amazing, isn’t it, the difference between AAA and the Show. These hitters just don’t miss mistakes very often.” Braves Paisan
Which pretty much sums up how talented our lineup is, doesn’t it?
June 7th, 20093:13 pm
Now we get the excuses:
1. He’s young.
2. It’s his first game
blah, blah, blah. I tried to tell you fans that this prospect wasn’t different back in Spring Training. Well he got his butt beat…and beat bad as predicted. I hate it for the team that we threw away a Tommy Glavine for this.
Charlie Morton and Chuck James did awesome in their debut though.
You are the uneducated fan.
The object of baseball is to score more runs than the opposition.
Hanson has given up 7.
Chipper is responsible for 5.
The offense stinks. If not for Chipper, the Braves would be working on their third shutout in a row.
Hanson does not look effective. End of story.
pryguy should change his name to prayguy because that’s all you’re depending on for this team to be successful. Prayer!
reminded me of a denizen’s screen name:
Chuck James before 6th inning.
that killer 6th.
Fickleness is running rampant.
It’s been an ouch here, but it’s not time to throw in the towel on Hanson or question calling him up.
Hanson has got the stuff!!
He just is making some bad pitches at the wrong times.
He will learn this and know what NOT to do – that is part of the process also.
By the time he reaches his 3rd start (mark it down!) – from then on – watch out! He will be a great one! GUARANTEED!!!
I’m glad Hanson got roughed up first time out, honestly. I think he’s gifted enough to make immediate adjustments his next start
June 7th, 20093:14 pm
What is most frustrating over the past 4 games is that after that comeback in game 1 against the CUBS, with LOWE and JURJIENS pitching the next two, the Braves should have been able to build on that and get a little win streak going but NOOOOOOOOOOOOOo we have just spiked ourselves
Wayne in Utah
I am perplexed (maybe I shouldn’t be) of the idiocy of many of you supposed baseball/Braves fans. Your rookie phenom comes up, does OK for a while, then gets rocked. And he is now a right handed JoJo or it’s Bobby Cox fault for not having ESP and removing him before the 2 HR inning.
You are truly a disgusting excuse for a baseball fan.
Big next two innings here.
Folks we’re only down by 2 with 1/3 of the game remaining. This game is still winnable and that is the most important thing..winning the game. Hanson’s performance is secondary.
Glavine Lover: I’m a big Glavine fan. But he was awful last year before the injury. You can’t get MLB hitters out with a 82 mph fastball and a 75 mph changeup. Not even Maddux could do it. Glavine would have been lit in the first inning. Hanson clearly was left in too long. That’s typical Bobby Cox managing. He leaves pitchers in way too long. I would much rather watch the future of the Braves (Hanson and Medlen) than Glavine throwing batting practice. Sure, he pitched well in single A. That’s because those kids don’t know how to gear down to face an 80 mph fastball. They haven’t seen an 80 mph fastball since high school.
Now that’s infuriating.
Kelly’s effing bunting? And he lays one down right at the pitcher? These at-bats are useless.
The Brewers are show boating going around the bases ! Would be nice if the Braves would say someting to their whole bench when they circle the bases !!!!!!!!!!
June 7th, 20093:15 pm
I’m sure Medlin is thinking I did better than that.
June 7th, 20093:16 pm
Why do we keep sending Norton up there to PH with runners on?
How long have you managed in the big leagues and been as successful? What does your resume look like for managing professional athletes over the years? Forward that on to me, I’d appreciate it. I’ll compare that to Cox. But you know more I’m sure.
Congrats for predicting Hanson getting lit up. I’m sure everyone on here is impressed with your abilities, if you’d like to call it that. I’m referencing all the bloggers negativity toward this team whenever something wrong happens. It is annoying and petty. Your comments seem to be similar, keep up the good work blending in with all the others who post similarly.
bravos2249………I watch a lot of baseball (I subscribe to the MLB Extra Innings baseball package). I’ve seen the Rangers play a number of times. Elvis Andrus can field the position, for sure. However he is a rookie and is going to make some errors. However, I dont think that he’ll hit like Escobar can. The Rangers have him batting 9th for a reason.
I dont understand why Franceour is batting 5th while Ross is batting 8th.
This team does stink. There seems to be no vision as to what is actually achievable. McClouth does not make this team a playoff caliber team. Hanson’s growing pains won’t either. I just don’t get it.
I’m glad Hanson got roughed up first time out, honestly. I think he’s gifted enough to make immediate adjustments his next start – joe
Same here joe. I think he’ll be alright.
Steve from OH
June 7th, 20093:17 pm
Hanson does not look effective. End of story.
A bold statement after a mere 6 innings of career big-league work. Let’s ignore statistics, scouts, the General Manager, et al, and listen to what an idiot blogger has to say. I’d love to hear you justify that statement with any (and I mean any) reasoning outside of this one isolated start.
I would ask you to try and think with your brain, but that doesn’t appear to be your forte, does it?
“You can’t get ML batters out with an 82 mph fastball”
you are right sir, you have to be able to hit 85 mph like Trevor Hoffman.
Bravos2249. The obvious answer to your question is that Cox is a freaking MORON!!
Wayne in Utah
To me personally it’s the fact that someone…whether it be Ross/McDowell/Cox…kept calling the fastball in a pitchers count when he kept it up and hittable.
June 7th, 20093:18 pm
Fickleness is running rampant.…you must be new…lol!
Hanson really lived up to all the hype huh ,im sure Glavin is sitting at home laughing his ass off roght about now
Norton takes the walk!
you are right sir, you have to be able to hit 85 mph like Trevor Hoffman
How fast did Maddux throw? Not trying to be smart…I’m serious what did he top out at?
Rob (from SC)
Ryan Braun and Mike Cameron are good hitters. Braun is a great hitter. Hanson does need to throw more breaking balls. I think he overthrew the last 2 innings. Althought I am pissed, Hanson will be great.
Wayne in Utah… I completely agree… I use to read the blog all the time when guys like Lew and company would comment regularly… but now you can’t go an inning without a demand for Cox to be fired or someone to be traded…I decided to read today for first time in a while b/c Hanson was pitching…how do you ppl not get sick of complaining
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